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Glimblord, I know this version is different to the Nebula version, but if yourself or one of your ragamuffin co-conspirators releases a video that's available on both platforms, which is best for you guyses to watch it on? I know you want to but don't say both.
The black stuff is dragon blood, it was leaking out of maelys and all over her head when paraded through the streets. Dragons bleed black ichor like how the greek gods bleed golden ichor
@@wayneivers732Nebula, my understanding is they get a cut from your subscription based onthe fraction of watchtime. If you only watch them, that's the whole cut, gotta be better than the handful of ads that can be played throughout the video
the actor is a rock star apparently so maybe Vizzy had some spunk before the responsibilities of the crown worsened his eating disorder. i mean when he yells at Damon and puts a knife to his neck I was like uuuh Vizzy has a temper, who knew.
I loved that, after Aegon compared Aemond to a hound in eps 1 and 3, Aemond refuses to help Jason Lannister bc he's "not a dog to be called to heel." 🙄
While I hate the trend of releasing podcasts as video essays that's been becoming more popular lately. I think you guys have nailed the only good permutation. 2 people, who have good chemistry, talking about a special interest they share and are both incredibly knowledgeable about. Not to mention that you're able to often talk in tandem so you're able to present cogent ideas together as a team. Really enjoying these dragon time videos and I think you guys make an awesome team.
New Theory: GLIDUS IS A HORSE Okay, so this one is pretty self-explanatory… Firstly, last episode Alt Shwift X made a passing comment that a tapestry of a horse looked like Glidus. Alt Shwift X does seem like a pretty good source as I’m sure he’s seen Glidus on numerous occasions. Now I know what you’re thinking… This might seem like a throwaway joke, but consider the attention given to horses thoughout Glidus’s videos. He talks about the stylish bangs or armor horses wear throughout the series and often discusses or jokes about characters who are secretly horses. Glidus clearly has some kind of connection to horses. Additionally, as shown with Caraxes, he has a special appreciation for animals with long necks… Perhaps long necks a trait that horses find attractive? Perhaps all those theories of different people being horses were instances of projection, and let’s not ignore this would go a long way to explain the gaps between his Blisstake’s… Editing with hooves is undoubtedly quite difficult. What do y’all think? Do you too believe that Glidus is secretly a horse or do you think there is another explanation? Let me know👍
Also answers why there are so many GoT food discussions with that Shiwift x guy, if there is anything horses like to do, besides delayinbg Blisstakes, it's eating! The discussions also derail into anything other than food, which fits horses very well. I mean where do you think ' horsing around' comes from? One day he might come out of his closet and the yt channels will fuse into the Horse Shwit channel.
In the show they have shown dragon blood as black twice now, from Sunfyre’s chest and the paraded head. The black may just have meant to be dragon’s blood.
Um aktually 🤓 one of the defining characteristics of lizards is that they are cold blooded. That cannot be the case for dragons. Cannot be lizard hour.
If Otto doesn’t show up with a battalion of Jogos Nhai on Zorses I will be thoroughly upset and may even contribute my pitchfork to the Kings Landing small folk riots
the only person that was missing for that bar scene was the other dude who knocked someone out for some cabbage and it could've been like the smallfolk avengers up in that pub
Hugh the Smith is basically spiderman. He’ll be in the third movie and he’ll show everyone how to run really fast. It’s a special secret blacksmith power.
I think my favorite point from this video about why Seasmoke might have rejected Darklyn and sought Addam had to be about how dragons want someone with an equal will to rule as their own; Ser Stephan Darklyn was a sworn sword-someone who has taken prior lifelong vows of servitude that he undoubtedly meant if he’s willing to try and claim a dragon for Rhaeneyra. He died for her cause. But the only thing we’ve seen about Addam is his eagerness to prove his worth, and to do so by wielding power righteously, in his mind. He’s a good guy but also actively seeks to empower himself and gain glory for himself and his brother, all totally fair and morally neutral impulses for someone with his life’s story. If this was Hogwarts, he’d be a Gryffindor. So it’s not a bad thing that he actively seeks power-and I shan’t say more in case anyone else hasn’t read the books-but I really like how you framed “if I were a dragon, what kind of rider would I want, really?” And we know that Seasmoke and Laenor were two young bucks that were BOTH very “Woohoo!” About being together with Laenor, flying with Laenor, being at war with him. Seasmoke is the only other dragon that has been to war (in the stepstones) than Caraxes on team Black, he can obviously tell that there’s a war on, because Rooks Rest was right there across the water, and with Melys and Rhaenys dead, he’s more eager than ever to claim the young, eager, physically capable Addam, whether Addam was ready or not. It’s a change from the books that I actually really love. David Lightbringer had a nice little point about that beach chase/dragon strafing sequence, about how Seasmoke is kind of testing or at least observing Addam’s physical fitness, watching his reflexes, agility, and speed, and drew a few comparisons to how Vhagar physically tests young Aemond when he tries to claim her, and he somehow doesn’t die despite not even being strapped in and doing barrel rolls above the bay, hey, he may look scrawny and he may be a boy, but he’s tough enough to ride with Nana Vhagar-and here, too, this ties back to the theory about a dragon accepting a rider as equally vicious or ambitious or attuned to themselves in whatever way; they even had the scene about Daemon being rejected by Melys when he tried to claim her. And obviously the bond he ends up with Caraxes is arguably the strongest among all the dragon riders because I don’t think Daemon has ever given Caraxes a verbal order, has he? They’re just so in sync.
Unrelated but its so funny that there are some people who describe Vhagar letting aemond claim her as trauma bonding which makes it so clear that they don't know what the word means at all
We need the parallel sex scene with this happening for both of the couples at the same time and doing so causes a beacon to form to show each other’s location. Then Rhaenyra and Alicent can finally be together leaving Criston and Mysaria to reluctantly hook up. DAMN U CONDAL IF THIS DOESNT HAPPEN NEXT EP😡
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@TheHoneyCheerios Tbf a lot of youtubers promoted it and just never acknowledged it when it came out that it was a scam. I think I can name like three of the ones I'm subscribed to that actually talked about established titles being a scam but most of them just drop it and move on.
Personal theory. Aeriana Targaryan might be a cousin of Aegon that was married to the Darklyns before the conquest and was just named princess after Aegon became king.
Also, Aenar the Exile had multiple wives and we only know of two kids from them which seems highly unlikely. Aeriana could've been a very distant line of Targaryen that was just broadly referred to as royalty posthumously
That wouldn't make sense bc she would die long before the conquest. Just a bit of a plot hole. No Targaryens prior to Aegon are considered royalty. The start of the Targaryen dynasty is with Aegon.
@@NP3GA That's fine, your theory has to have a solid foundation to stand on though if you don't want it to be challenged. None of Aegon's ancestors were given the titles of royalty, as their family were Lord's of Dragonstone before the conquest, not King's of Dragonstone.
@svenskhund3603 seconding that this would likely be the case considering Stannis and Renly weren't made princes after Robert became king, so it seems the norm in Westeros that claimed titles don't automatically elevate family members. The only logical solution I can think of is if Aegon maybe specifically named distant-cousin-Aeriana a princess as a potential back up successor when Aenys was still young and sickly (most likely though Rhaenyra/the writers were just wrong and didn't think it through)
I've imagined Daemon's inability to blame Alyss for the magic hallucinations that she is very clearly causing as his insistence that the magic she practices is not real, and blaming her would wound his pride because it would force him to admit some fault
Alicent only attempts to show affection to Aemond after she loses power. This is why Aemond regects Alicent, he knows she is just trying to emotionally manipulate him. He just wants his mother's love, but he knows she'll never love him.
Alicent rejected her father's attempt at comforting her, and now Aemond does the same to her. It's the cycle of generational trauma. My theory too why Alicent seems to dislike Aemond the most out all her children (excluding Daeron), even before the death of Lucyrs, is he's the most like _her_ (underneath all that anime villain posing) in personality and temperment.
I honestly assumed the title “princess” must have been given to Aeriana posthumously. “We were always super special and royal, even if we didn’t have a throne!” kind of thing.
That would make sense if rhaenyra handnt specifically said "BORN a Targaryen princess" so I think the only way to make it make sense is to say that she was wrong
@@jacksonross5941 if you start by assuming that all Targs are royalty regardless of whethe they had claimed any royal titles yet then Aeriana was indeed born a princess. By princess Rhaenyra would then mean to "born of the main family branch" instead of princess to the throne.
@@Belegor nobody in universe makes that assumption though? pre-conquest Targaryens are always referred to as lords of dragonstone not kings and nobody has ever called her princess daenys the dreamer
Thank you Glimbus. People calling these episodes boring when i'm having a blast has been a tad annoying. But then i have both you and Shwifty to remind me it's not boring at all.
How are people calling this one boring? We have Daemon heartbreak shenanigans that rip me apart, the Dragonkeepers cooking a mean barbecue, Jason Lannister, and Seasmoke playing tag. Quite a bit took place, in all honesty.
The Mysaria & Rhaenyra scene had vibes of the notorious “Myrish swamp” chapter from Feast. I suspect she’s being manipulated, just as Cersei was. The ominous music helps sell that too.
I didn't love the scene, it felt like something that should have come next episode, just kinda came out of nowhere, this episode should have had some manipulative lines or some weird or charged glances. I am also reminded of Cersei, although book Rhaenyra is far more Cersei-like than Emma D'Arcy's interpretation. I feel like mysaria should be manipulating Rhaenyra.
@@TheZerech When the hug turned into a kiss I was on the fence about it but when they transitioned that energy to Rhaenyra jumping on her dragon and rolling credits I thought it was a pretty good way to end the episode.
Sadly the vast majority of people do not openly pursue what they truly want most, especially when that thing is the love of a parent who you never felt loved by. I don’t think the fact Aemond isn’t blatantly expressing that he craves Alicent’s love means he doesn’t want it. He wasn’t taught how to build or strengthen those types of relationships. Can you imagine a scene of Aemond simply saying “mother I want us to have a better relationship”? I can’t. I can picture a conversation like that between Jace and Rhaenyra because she has always established that connection with him from early on. It’s incredibly challenging to approach those conversations with parents when that was never the nature of the relationship your entire life. So Aemond is chasing what will give him control because that’s what was modeled to him as the most important thing.
Yes, definitely. And we’ve seen this underlying pattern in their family before, with Aegon asking Alicent if she loves him in 1x09. Her response is essentially that the question is idiotic. Granted, that happened in a very specific high stress circumstance, but I think the fact that Alicent called him an “imbecile” combined with Aegon even having to ask his mother in the first place shows that this isn’t a typical conversation for their dynamic. It’s not something that’s easy for the child to broach, and it’s definitely not easy for the mother either. Although Alicent herself craves better relationships with her children, her response to Aegon opening that door is to shut him down (likely because she doesn’t know how to proceed from there; it’s uncomfortable and unknown, something she has no experience with from her own father’s parenting). That’s an emotional distance Aemond would have picked up on as well, just from growing up, so it makes sense that he doesn’t say what he feels here. Expressing this was never modeled to him, and it seems what was modeled to him was that his mother wouldn’t respond if he tried. Tragically, Alicent may have responded in that moment because we see her regretting the affects of her parenting, but Aemond’s perspective is different
@@rissjohnson3308 I still feel considerable sympathy for Aemond, despite his dickish behaviour this episode. After attacking his brother he's probably beyond redemption, which is sad.
@@alanpennie Yeah, I do too, from my understanding they made Aemond more sympathetic in the show than the books but I haven’t read them. What he went through doesn’t justify what he does but it definitely makes it make sense at least to a degree as a viewer.
I think a better interpretation of "the people that don't want power are the best suited" is that the people that don't want it likely feel that way because they understand the burden of power. Jon doesn't want to be commander of the night's watch for the sake of flaunting/abusing his authority. He is scared of having to make tough decisions, but knows no one else but him could even consider cooperation with the wildlings. Essentially, thirst for power never fulfills people, so they just try to get more until it consumes them. People like Viserys are more likely to take council than people that think they always know best. It's not just "reluctant ruler = good ruler", and I don't think either GRRM or the shows are necessarily trying to generalize like that.
Jon may never have wanted power- but he always proves capable when he steps up, at need- & simply does his level best. He took a leading role in the defense of Castle Black, despite not being Commander at that time. And after he becomes Commander, BookJon (& potentially before- as Mormont's personal steward, would have had access to his papers & correspondence) knows that Mormont was trying to re-staff some of the closed forts, & it was a rough juggling game- given how thin the Watch is - but after he has the Wildlings & even some of Stannis' men to make use of- he can seriously augment using Nights' Watch as commanders, while bulking out the forces he sends- which essentially doubles the number of forts he can re-open, increasing the Wall's protective range - he uses his predecessor's plan, but utilises his own skills, insight, & resources to improve it. BookJon also tackles some of the Watch's hypocrisy & internal favouritism in things like appointing Satin as his personal steward- while Jon just looks at the guy's capabilities (& his trust in him), many more in the Watch only see a former 'boy-whore', which isn't fitting to the dignity of the Lord Commander (it's also possible that some might be looking at the pattern; Lord Mormont made Jon his personal steward, something Sam at once recognised as the first step of grooming Jon for future leadership- maybe others recognised that, too- but as Lord Commander's an elected position, that someone has to be put forward as an option, & the vote goes on until someone has the majority- so he could easily be frozen out were it to come to that) - the Watch seems like a meritocracy, & in some ways it is- it certainly takes virtually all-comers (minus women, but Jon even manages to challenge that to some degree, when he re-staffs one of the forts with spear-wives, serving under male commanders)- but just like the maesters, there's a ceiling with who they're willing to appoint to important positions...
Larys theory: Larys wasn't really pushing for the Hand job. He just wanted Aemond to keep underestimating him, so he acted as if he tried to pull a manipulation on Aemond for Aemond to see it and dismiss. He looked almost scared when it looked like Aemond was actually giving him the Hand job.
You're saying Larys was merely pretending to be interested in the hand job? That what he did was basically a boobytrap? Wow, he truly is a cunning linguist. A master debater, even.
"He looked almost scared when it looked like Aemond was actually giving him the Hand job" is uncomfortably close to how I would describe a very specific dream I had once.. and I'm certain a similar passage can be found in countless fanfictions across the internet.
I kinda understand why armies don't have scorpion throwers. I bet the royal dragon riding family would ask a few questions as to why you're building weapons that have the sole purpose of killing their mounts.
If I had a dragon and was at war with more dragons that my family started, I also would not want the suffering people to be able to shoot me out of the sky.
Thank you glidus for bringing up that Simon also played Beria! I kept expecting him to pull out a sheaf of papers showing how many friends and family Daemon had purged from the Targaryen Communist Party
the lion thing with Jason Lannister might be a callback to his comment to Rhaenyra in S1, where he muses about how he has a place to put big beasts at Casterly Rock, but may have to build something new for a dragon (namely Syrax). I think the implication might be here that Jason is coming to battle with lions to compete with dragons - once again showing just how up his own golden behind he is about the whole thing. he isn't taking this war seriously and thinks of it as more of an opportunity to show off than anything. which I'm sure will bite him in the arse down the line
I can’t help but imagine that Otto was riding his horse back to Oldtown and then he just thought to himself “You know what? I think it’s time I had a little me time.” And then just galloping off to who knows where for some offscreen rest and relaxation from all the political scheming he’s been doing for the past few decades.
@@Frank_D "I may not look it but I am starting to feel it in my heart. I feel like butter scraped over too much bread. I need a very, very long holiday."
I think you're oversimplifying the idea that Aemond wants Alicent's love a little bit. I can absolutely see how this can be true for him deep down, but actually manifest outwardly as resentment and pushing Alicent away. Aemond seems like kind of person who would despise being emotionally dependent on anyone and interpret it as weakness. Just look at how he reacted to his relationship with Sylvie being discovered: by demeaning her, denying she was important to him in any way, and presumably never seeing her again. Also, remember how he spoke about Alicent to Criston in ep1? I think Aemond will strive to reduce Alicent's influence and push her away precisely because his need for her love gives her power over him, and he perceives that as a threat.
Sexuality can be really fluid and change during your life several times. Someone can be straight for a long period of their life only to realise they are now bi/gay/Ace etc.
@@rizon98it might also just mean that she prefers men over women but is still attracted to both. Bisexuality isn’t 50/50 it’s a spectrum that varies from person to person
I wanna know who heard Criston Cole say “yeah guys let’s roll the literal decapitated symbol of the royal family to celebrate the victory of the royal family!” And still approved.
@hibiscusflowers4436 yeah but that was super cool and symbolic of Rhaenys' character arc, which the smallfolk of Kings Landing would obviously understand
I would like to point out that at the council of 101, a random dude shows up and claims to be a descendant of Gaemon Targaryen, indicating that a daughter of Gaemon had married off out of the family. That dude was supposedly 9 generations off the main branch but it does show that women marrying out of the family is not unheard of, and that the historical count does not remember every family member
I think the black liquid on the tapestry is meant to be the dragon's blood. When Sunfyre came crashing down, he spluttered black blood all over the foot soldiers.
I don't know what edition of fire and blood i was reading but from when I read it, it was as follows: Season 1: 100-120 pages Season 2: 40-50 pages Depending on how they prolong the series (the entire dance of dragons is like 270 pages Season 3: 40- 60 pages Season 4: 40-50 Pages
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I think the reason that Daemon continues to suspect and threaten Simon Strong but not Alys Rivers is because Daemon has come to respect Alys, as we see when he asks for her council and speaks politely to her, whereas Daemon doesn't respect Simon who he perceives as weak and beneath him, so he demeans and bullies Simon, which is a behavior we see Daemon perpetuate many times to other characters who he considers unworthy of or beneath him. I think Daemon doesn't respect anyone who can't prove (in his eyes at least) that they can stand up to him. Daemon only respects strength and fearlessness and resents servility. So I think Alys has sort of won his respect with her "does not give a fuck" attitude whereas Simon keeps trying to pacify Daemon which he perceives as weakness. We also see Daemon suspect people like Otto and others he considers beneath him as being "grasping." Daemon secretly fears and suspects that anyone beneath him MUST want what he has and that they WILL eventually betray him if given the chance in order to raise themselves up at Daemon's expense, which is what he feels towards Rhaenyra; that she connived and "stole" what was rightfully his. I also think that physically bullying and threatening and demeaning others is simply a way for Daemon to subconsciously reclaim some of the control he feels he's lost during his Weirwood dreams.
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At Rook’s Rest, anyone close enough to clearly see Vhagar burn Sunfire in the sky, was then squashed by Vhagar landing on top of them and / or burned to death. Easy to say “just look up” if you don’t wear a helmet with a Nasal or Kettle brim while you podcast 😹
Plus, Meleys and Sunfyre were grappling each other at the time; hundreds of feet in the air. From below, it would likely look like Vhager attacked Meleys, and Sunfyre was unintentionally injured while Aemond attempted to 'save' the king from Meleys jaws. We only know the reality of what happened because we get a dragon's view of the action.
Folks on the castle wall that survived would have likely seen, since we're given their pov of the dragons arriving. But doubtful that would be an account that made it past dungeons lol.
"There are so many people who are going to be furious that Rhaenyra's finally kissing girls and it's *not* Alicent." 😅 Listen... I'll take what I can get!
The black stuff is dragon blood or the fluid they use to breath fire, in the rooks rest episode you see it pour out of sunfire in the scene where he nearly hits the ground. It also seems to burn people it lands on.
I think in the show they’re almost making the case that Corlys philandered as a young man but then stopped… grew up, stopped taking Rheyneas for granted, and it lead to a rare healthy marriage with them. Hence, the Hull brothers present as older. And the Laenor being the father rumor is basically abandoned in HoTD allowing for this suggestion.
The make out session was done perfectly, in my opinion. It started with a moment of passion with the hug, then both of them show slight interest in more intimacy by moving their heads closer to the other, they both wait for consent to be requested and given. With the loaded atmosphere just before it I was ready to absolutely hate the dynamic, which made it all the better when they still held back enough for a silent conversation.
I don’t know if anyone else has said this but at 1:46:40 Addam’s rope work is framed in such a way it looks like he is riding a rope dragon, which is lovely foreshadowing
If you discount "Princess" as an inaccurate descriptor, remember that a younger daughter of Gaemon Targaryen married a minor lord, whose descendent pressed a claim at Harrenhal. Aereana Targaryen could be a common ancestor of this claimant and Steffon Darklyn.
What is the Stormlands doing? I don’t think it’s been mentioned since a Son for a Son so what is Borros doing? Just a quick little ‘Lord Borros is staying in his castle because he’s scared shitless Rhaenyra will show up and burn Storm’s End to the ground for inadvertently killing her son’ or something. It was a big deal to get the Baratheon’s last season and it made sense for both teams: North was too far away to matter in the short term, Vale is Team Black 🖤, Westerlands is Team Green 💚, Iron Islands is team Red Kraken ❤️🦑, Riverlands and Reach are a free for all because the Great Houses are weak, Dorne is doing its own thing, the Stormlands was the biggest unclaimed region. And it’s one of the closest to Crownlands, surely they would get updates on their armies mustering first.
I honestly thought Rhaenyra was gonna have some strong words with Borros while corpse hunting. That would have been a nice bit of tension. And hey maybe the greens have been sending ravens to Borros and he just can't read them 😂
In the books iirc he declares for the greens but fuxks off to fight some dornish dude. So he's not really relevant till later in the story. Also the pacing is weird this season so it's not super clear when things are happening lol
It shows her attachment issues that have been rooted since the death of Aemma, and she’s throwing herself at someone that can take her back to a feeling she had with Alicent before all of her attachment issues were formed. She can fulfill what untouched desires she may have had with Alicent now and it prob feels extremely cathartic for those desires to finally be fulfilled
OK. No one is talking about this with Seasmoke but I swear that it makes the most sense. Steffon Darklyn says "serve me" and Seasmoke recoils, but then looks at the dragon keepers and Targaryens, and extends its neck to serve them. Then as Steffon approaches he speaks in common with Seasmoke staring him down, and Seasmoke only wants that high Valrian love in it's life. Then the fire and the screaming happens. But Steffon keeps saying 'serve' up until he's extra crispy. SO after some light torching Seasmoke kips off...but I don't think he just kips off the cold blooded puppy listened! and he's going to 'serve' hence the tracking down the dude that looks the most like his old Bae that also shares half his blood. How am I the only one who sees this?
Only 11 seconds in and glidus gives me the giggles. Also the Jason Lannister nipples comment came up I was thinking the converstation with the blacksmith went something like "Oh but George Clooney had nipples on his armor, I demand mine be fancier!" and in the background you hear DBZA's Zarbon go "Mmmmmm"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Minus the 'princess' bit, there were absolutely other Targaryens - the wife of Aegon's son, Aenys- Alyssa Velaryon's mother was an unnamed Targaryen - Aenar came to Dragonstone with wives, plural- as well as siblings (meaning there were minor branch Targaryens well before the Blackfyres), but there's very little detail in the earlier family tree - other than the second unnamed daughter of Daenys & Gaemon, who married 'a petty lord', & had at least one descendant who lived long enough to be one of the 14 initial claimants at the Great Council of 101AC - 5 of which have unclear identities; there was another that claimed to be a bastard of Maegor, as well as a man who claimed to be a bastard of Jaehaerys himself- & three unnamed claimants, with no detail regarding their ancestry. I'm a bit frustrated that the show's simplifying/ conflation is risking straying into incongruous D&D territory... 'Fire & Blood' notes that Queen Rhaenys, & later Queen Alysanne put a lot of focus on arranging inter-realm marriages, to help knit the new united Westeros together (possibly as a means of supporting Aegon/ Jaehaerys' vision for a united realm, come the awaited Long Night) -- as is apparent with the reaction against Torrhen's daughter marrying Ronnel Arryn, this didn't always go smoothly early on - however, we also don't know what the pre-Conquest inter-realm marriage situation was, & given later inter-realm marriages did not usually elicit any protests on that score- it can be assumed a success, relatively speaking.
That 'petty lord' Daenys & Gaemon's daughter married could have been a Darklyn. It's pretty certain a few Targaryan women, especially before the conquest, married outside the family as Aenar seems to have been the last man in the family to practice polygamy until Aegon married _both_ his sisters. It's implied that Rheanys, under other circumstances, would have married outside the family; likely to a Velaryon. It seems they had more family members then dragons in the years before the conquest and likely had to divest themselves of as many dependent family members as possible since Dragonstone is a small, rocky island that doesn't have much going for it outside of roosting dragons on the volcano.
the only line of dialogue that Vissy didn’t repeat from episode one was Rheanryas name. he only says that daemon should have been by his side. thought that was neat
1:50:54 next time on glidus: "issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the ironborn. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them""
I'd argue that if you had 100 castles, & only 5 dragons - rather than only picking 5- you would create a ranging area for each, where they could protect/ monitor the castles & roads within that area - the bigger the dragon, the bigger the area- meaning 5 dragons _could_ protect, or at least scout the land around *more* than one castle. But one would have to take into account the need for dragon & rider to rest, as shown by Rhaenys & Maelys in the earlier episode- meaning they would be ranging *_from_* one castle, in particular. And, by necessity, some would have to go begging- but that's where the rest of your resources come into play; men as scouting patrols, & ravens- who can give alerts ahead of army deployment.
I think Daemon is fully aware of that fact that Alys is giving him the visions and he is just so terrified of her and what she obviously knows about him that the only way for him to deal right now is to desperately try to gaslight himself into believing that there isn't actually anything magical going on in the first place. He's so unwilling to deal with the truth of what he is finding out about himself (and also probably the revelation that magic is real and he is actively being bewitched in the most literal sense of the word), that he refuses to acknowledge the reality right in front of him.
1:12:00 I'd appreciate you guys not to hack my DM's. Ryan Condal did, as you know, say to me "Hey Joe which of the crap you yap about do you want to see in the season? Idk whatever it is you do, just pick something you nerd. I need the buy in from you specifically this season at any cost." And of course I said "Daemon in the Shining in Harrenhal, make Alys a Greenseer, heavily hint Larys had something to do with Blood and Cheese for two episodes then drop it entirely, and make up a Targaryen princess to piss off specifically Glidus. Thanks Ryan, and stop negging me. If you want to hang out just say so." And yeah, we have a beautiful friendship now after he dropped the passive aggressive stuff.
reporting back from Nebula saying that yes, I have indeed watched The Fake John Snow. on one level, getting to listen to these two talk media analysis for 24 hours is a lovely gift, on another watching the show from the scope of a single character asks interesting questions about what each character knows and is motivated by, and yet on a third note, half the runtime is just them taking the piss from seasons 7 & 8, seriously, 12 hours in, and the first six seasons are done because all the gentle work of a mortician is over with. The last 12 hours is just the desecration of a corpse. There were no survivors. 10/10 would watch another cut.
If I remember correctly, when we first meet Alyn, we see huge holes in the side of the ship. So i assume repairing the planks/hull, removing the barnacle, and scrubbing the poop deck is why Alyn is so damn reluctant every time, and it's taken weeks. Like leave me alone estranged bio-dad i have a job to do >.
Why is no one questioning Alys getting from Harrenhal to Riverrun in 3 days?! Maybe even less since a raven made it back to Harrenhal with the news Grover died.
Do you think the black stuff in the tapestry maybe means rot. Coming from melys head towards the iron throne representing the deterioration of the Targaryen’s power and image as viewed by the rest of Westeros
Happy to see the shout out to Joe Magician...he makes great content, is a nice guy with a great sense of humour and is well deserving of the support :)
Thank god, I cannot survive the week without my dragon time, also if you can upload a slightly updated version even in a couple of months would be amazing. understand if not though
Dragonstone (& Driftmark) was Valyria's westernmost outpost, having been settled some two centuries before the Doom- & the Targs arrived 12 years before the Doom -- not knowing the pre-Doom governance situation there, I would posit that if there were no dragonlords already there (perhaps they were recalled to help with the Rhoynar situation & failed to return), on the arrival of Aenar & his 5 dragons (plus however many eggs)- that the governing authority there would give way to them. It's not unrealistic to imagine non-Targaryen dragons, when you take the history into account.
As someone that´s too poor to breathe I considered myself lucky to be able to watch and support you guys through watching ads. And even though this video is 2 hours long, which is insane, knowing there's 1,5 hours more that I'll never get to watch makes me a bit sad.. Gods, I'm spoiled!
Daemon desperately wants to think he'w the main character, and Alys is doing everything in her power to bash it in his head that he isn't. Much like another owl, she just needs to trap him in an endless loop by talking at him for hours and making "yes" the default option. Would clear up a lot of confusion. My interpretation of Seasmoke rejecting Stephon was that Stephon disrespected Smokey at the end. Steph is very nervous and and fearful of the dragon, and rhe keeprs are instructing him to show respect. Seasmoke eventually lowers himself to Stephon's level so that he may be mounted, and Steph drops all interest in treating the dragon as a living creature, and strides towards him, claiming he's done it and assuming that Seasmoke is his to command. Cue the barbecue. One thing I really like about the HotD dragons so far is that they feel like actual sentient beings with personality. GoT, Rhaegal and Viserion are just. There. They're mostly just accessories for Dany to look cool, and are sacrificed to the plot for drama. Even Drogon's only character moment is glaring at Jon for macking on his mommy. Drogon had so little character that him showing intelligence or burning the throne came completely out of left field. Maybe I was just spoiled as a kid, because the Predacon(avoiding spoilers) in TFP was a very well written "Giant ancient beastie that os substantially smarter than any of the characters care to admit," and I was hoping the adult show would be able to handle that. Btw, HotD revived my lifelong obsession with dragons, so thinks for causing another hyper fixation wildfire, y'all. Much appreciated.
Little known fact: SeaSmoke has very bad eyesight. He’s far-sighted so it’s tough to see things right in front of him. Without a rider, he has trouble landing. He chased Adam in excitement for he truly believes to have found Leanor. Complexion and Valyrian blood checks out. Now we know why Ser Darklyn was rejected.
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apologies for the delay and the different format. rough week for glombor. but we recover and march on. only two more to go!
Literally the only reason I got Nebula
Gods bless you
Glimblord, I know this version is different to the Nebula version, but if yourself or one of your ragamuffin co-conspirators releases a video that's available on both platforms, which is best for you guyses to watch it on? I know you want to but don't say both.
The black stuff is dragon blood, it was leaking out of maelys and all over her head when paraded through the streets. Dragons bleed black ichor like how the greek gods bleed golden ichor
@@wayneivers732Nebula, my understanding is they get a cut from your subscription based onthe fraction of watchtime. If you only watch them, that's the whole cut, gotta be better than the handful of ads that can be played throughout the video
@@wayneivers732The answer is always Patreon. they take 5% no one does better than 95% of revenue.
1:43:30 - Balerion canonically died from cringe because Viserys wasn’t cool enough
"Kids these days." - Balerion the Black Dread moments before giving up on the Targaryen dynasty and subsequently life
"I hate this generation," were his final words.
But Viserys was cool as fuck though, he got high all the time and had half a face
the actor is a rock star apparently so maybe Vizzy had some spunk before the responsibilities of the crown worsened his eating disorder.
i mean when he yells at Damon and puts a knife to his neck I was like uuuh Vizzy has a temper, who knew.
@@oleksiykolesnykov339 nah Balerion caught an STD when he went back to Old Valerya
Addam: **confused screaming**
Seasmoke: "Why are you running? _Why_ are you r-"
Seasmoke: "STOP RESISTING!"
I loved that, after Aegon compared Aemond to a hound in eps 1 and 3, Aemond refuses to help Jason Lannister bc he's "not a dog to be called to heel." 🙄
It’s also something that Boris Baratheon said at stormsend when Aemond and Lucerys were there last season
Man the pain and the anger runs deep with him!
@@johnstajduhar9617Aemond Forever Pressed 👑
@@johnstajduhar9617
"No one owns me.
It's just me and my dragon pal."
meanwhile Alys tells Daemon to "sit" twice and he obeys
I choose to believe that Otto is ghosting Aemond and just hanging out in Oldtown with his one non-fucked up grandson.
He's probably like, " you wanna be king?" But like every twenty minutes while Daemon keeps refusing.
Daeron?
@@jenw980"The Daring"
Seasmoke saw Addam and said ‘close enough welcome back Laenor!’
Dragon are racists confirmed
@@mihaimoldoSeasmoke is at least
To a dragon all humans look alike!
@@mihaimoldo He just has a type
@@mihaimoldoseasmoke is a mudshark
While I hate the trend of releasing podcasts as video essays that's been becoming more popular lately. I think you guys have nailed the only good permutation. 2 people, who have good chemistry, talking about a special interest they share and are both incredibly knowledgeable about.
Not to mention that you're able to often talk in tandem so you're able to present cogent ideas together as a team. Really enjoying these dragon time videos and I think you guys make an awesome team.
It's the best HOTD podcast I've encountered.
Not that I've been particularly seeking them out.
Podcasts were made following KingViserys death.....
New Theory: GLIDUS IS A HORSE
Okay, so this one is pretty self-explanatory… Firstly, last episode Alt Shwift X made a passing comment that a tapestry of a horse looked like Glidus. Alt Shwift X does seem like a pretty good source as I’m sure he’s seen Glidus on numerous occasions. Now I know what you’re thinking… This might seem like a throwaway joke, but consider the attention given to horses thoughout Glidus’s videos. He talks about the stylish bangs or armor horses wear throughout the series and often discusses or jokes about characters who are secretly horses. Glidus clearly has some kind of connection to horses. Additionally, as shown with Caraxes, he has a special appreciation for animals with long necks… Perhaps long necks a trait that horses find attractive? Perhaps all those theories of different people being horses were instances of projection, and let’s not ignore this would go a long way to explain the gaps between his Blisstake’s… Editing with hooves is undoubtedly quite difficult.
What do y’all think? Do you too believe that Glidus is secretly a horse or do you think there is another explanation? Let me know👍
Its the only thing that makes sense
Also answers why there are so many GoT food discussions with that Shiwift x guy, if there is anything horses like to do, besides delayinbg Blisstakes, it's eating! The discussions also derail into anything other than food, which fits horses very well. I mean where do you think ' horsing around' comes from?
One day he might come out of his closet and the yt channels will fuse into the Horse Shwit channel.
It's so obvious now that you've explained the theory. I hope he will drop the pretense now and confirm...
😭😭😭
It is known
My head canon is that Balerion didn’t know who was riding him but when he realized it was Viserys, he died of shame.
Balerion felt ahorse that day.
No one knows where Otto is because he’s sailing the Dothraki Sea
Otto the Khaleesi
As a horse
@@KellAndersonhe's ahorse with tyreck
I think he might be a bed
@@koszonet Otto is a barn owl actually.
"My dad could beat up his dad" Aemond your dad is his brother and his dad is your grandfather.😂
Who are both dead lol
@@itskashkashiUnless... 🐎
Moreover Baelon would probably wreck both his sons in a fight, though Daemon would give daddy dearest a run for his money at least.
In the show they have shown dragon blood as black twice now, from Sunfyre’s chest and the paraded head. The black may just have meant to be dragon’s blood.
Which is strange because in Season 1, the blood spray that comes from Vermax's body is red.
Iirc the black goo is fuelling the fire and their blood is red
@@pantherapardus1398 maybe it gets darker as they age?
@@pantherapardus1398 Might be the dragonfire juice mixed with blood
@@BEZERKSTUDIOS718 I'm ppretty certain that dragons become more resilient to fire as they age
I AM SO STOKEWORTHED FOR THIS LIZARD HOUR.
🤣🎯
I strokeworthed at the end of the episode
well done 😂
Um aktually 🤓 one of the defining characteristics of lizards is that they are cold blooded. That cannot be the case for dragons. Cannot be lizard hour.
stokedworth
If Otto doesn’t show up with a battalion of Jogos Nhai on Zorses I will be thoroughly upset and may even contribute my pitchfork to the Kings Landing small folk riots
I actually pissed myself laughing
the only person that was missing for that bar scene was the other dude who knocked someone out for some cabbage and it could've been like the smallfolk avengers up in that pub
Hugh Hammer
@@apelincoln1616 I mean c'mon that's already totally a superhero name anyway lol
@@kevinw712
He's basically Thor.
@@alanpennieironically riding the Dragon instead of Fighting it, but yeah, wields a hammer, it fits
Hugh the Smith is basically spiderman. He’ll be in the third movie and he’ll show everyone how to run really fast. It’s a special secret blacksmith power.
I think my favorite point from this video about why Seasmoke might have rejected Darklyn and sought Addam had to be about how dragons want someone with an equal will to rule as their own; Ser Stephan Darklyn was a sworn sword-someone who has taken prior lifelong vows of servitude that he undoubtedly meant if he’s willing to try and claim a dragon for Rhaeneyra. He died for her cause. But the only thing we’ve seen about Addam is his eagerness to prove his worth, and to do so by wielding power righteously, in his mind. He’s a good guy but also actively seeks to empower himself and gain glory for himself and his brother, all totally fair and morally neutral impulses for someone with his life’s story. If this was Hogwarts, he’d be a Gryffindor. So it’s not a bad thing that he actively seeks power-and I shan’t say more in case anyone else hasn’t read the books-but I really like how you framed “if I were a dragon, what kind of rider would I want, really?” And we know that Seasmoke and Laenor were two young bucks that were BOTH very “Woohoo!” About being together with Laenor, flying with Laenor, being at war with him. Seasmoke is the only other dragon that has been to war (in the stepstones) than Caraxes on team Black, he can obviously tell that there’s a war on, because Rooks Rest was right there across the water, and with Melys and Rhaenys dead, he’s more eager than ever to claim the young, eager, physically capable Addam, whether Addam was ready or not. It’s a change from the books that I actually really love.
David Lightbringer had a nice little point about that beach chase/dragon strafing sequence, about how Seasmoke is kind of testing or at least observing Addam’s physical fitness, watching his reflexes, agility, and speed, and drew a few comparisons to how Vhagar physically tests young Aemond when he tries to claim her, and he somehow doesn’t die despite not even being strapped in and doing barrel rolls above the bay, hey, he may look scrawny and he may be a boy, but he’s tough enough to ride with Nana Vhagar-and here, too, this ties back to the theory about a dragon accepting a rider as equally vicious or ambitious or attuned to themselves in whatever way; they even had the scene about Daemon being rejected by Melys when he tried to claim her. And obviously the bond he ends up with Caraxes is arguably the strongest among all the dragon riders because I don’t think Daemon has ever given Caraxes a verbal order, has he? They’re just so in sync.
Again i say, " Trauma is our Bond" needs to be the new house words for the Targaryens.
The Dragon Has Three Traumas ☠️
Unrelated but its so funny that there are some people who describe Vhagar letting aemond claim her as trauma bonding which makes it so clear that they don't know what the word means at all
@@sarwatarannya8786 I wonder if the dragons can even experience trauma , like maybe Sunfyre
Do you think Rhaenyra and Mysaria accidentally call each other Daemon just like Crispo and Alicent accidentally call each other Rhaenyra?
We need the parallel sex scene with this happening for both of the couples at the same time and doing so causes a beacon to form to show each other’s location. Then Rhaenyra and Alicent can finally be together leaving Criston and Mysaria to reluctantly hook up. DAMN U CONDAL IF THIS DOESNT HAPPEN NEXT EP😡
@@nikhily2993like in the show Hannibal
"I think its sorta fun to poison the discourse like this"
- Gligar [Dragon Time S2E06]
The kind of beautiful content you're missing out by not being on Nebula.
CRIMINAL that this didn't make it to youtube :( maybe some day
Glidus still hasnt apologized for advertising the Established Titles scam, so no Nebula
@TheHoneyCheerios Tbf a lot of youtubers promoted it and just never acknowledged it when it came out that it was a scam. I think I can name like three of the ones I'm subscribed to that actually talked about established titles being a scam but most of them just drop it and move on.
@@TheHoneyCheeriosThat was wild
Who poisoned the anthrax?
yelled “finally” at my phone upon opening youtube for the 100th time in the last 3 days.
Personal theory. Aeriana Targaryan might be a cousin of Aegon that was married to the Darklyns before the conquest and was just named princess after Aegon became king.
Also, Aenar the Exile had multiple wives and we only know of two kids from them which seems highly unlikely. Aeriana could've been a very distant line of Targaryen that was just broadly referred to as royalty posthumously
That wouldn't make sense bc she would die long before the conquest. Just a bit of a plot hole. No Targaryens prior to Aegon are considered royalty. The start of the Targaryen dynasty is with Aegon.
@@svenskhund3603 as I said, personal theory
@@NP3GA That's fine, your theory has to have a solid foundation to stand on though if you don't want it to be challenged. None of Aegon's ancestors were given the titles of royalty, as their family were Lord's of Dragonstone before the conquest, not King's of Dragonstone.
@svenskhund3603 seconding that this would likely be the case considering Stannis and Renly weren't made princes after Robert became king, so it seems the norm in Westeros that claimed titles don't automatically elevate family members. The only logical solution I can think of is if Aegon maybe specifically named distant-cousin-Aeriana a princess as a potential back up successor when Aenys was still young and sickly (most likely though Rhaenyra/the writers were just wrong and didn't think it through)
I've imagined Daemon's inability to blame Alyss for the magic hallucinations that she is very clearly causing as his insistence that the magic she practices is not real, and blaming her would wound his pride because it would force him to admit some fault
And he’s have to admit that there is something in the universe greater than he is.
Alicent only attempts to show affection to Aemond after she loses power. This is why Aemond regects Alicent, he knows she is just trying to emotionally manipulate him. He just wants his mother's love, but he knows she'll never love him.
Alicent rejected her father's attempt at comforting her, and now Aemond does the same to her. It's the cycle of generational trauma.
My theory too why Alicent seems to dislike Aemond the most out all her children (excluding Daeron), even before the death of Lucyrs, is he's the most like _her_ (underneath all that anime villain posing) in personality and temperment.
At this point I'm watching the show just to know the context for Glimbus&Shift videos.
I honestly assumed the title “princess” must have been given to Aeriana posthumously. “We were always super special and royal, even if we didn’t have a throne!” kind of thing.
That would make sense if rhaenyra handnt specifically said "BORN a Targaryen princess" so I think the only way to make it make sense is to say that she was wrong
@@jacksonross5941 if you start by assuming that all Targs are royalty regardless of whethe they had claimed any royal titles yet then Aeriana was indeed born a princess. By princess Rhaenyra would then mean to "born of the main family branch" instead of princess to the throne.
@@Belegor nobody in universe makes that assumption though? pre-conquest Targaryens are always referred to as lords of dragonstone not kings and nobody has ever called her princess daenys the dreamer
@@jacksonross5941 I guess it is a little weird in that case then.
History is written by the victors. It's been long enough that no one questions it.
The man standing between meleys and sun fire is obviously Daario Naharis.
made me giggle
Thank you Glimbus. People calling these episodes boring when i'm having a blast has been a tad annoying.
But then i have both you and Shwifty to remind me it's not boring at all.
How are people calling this one boring? We have Daemon heartbreak shenanigans that rip me apart, the Dragonkeepers cooking a mean barbecue, Jason Lannister, and Seasmoke playing tag. Quite a bit took place, in all honesty.
@@TheQuashingoftheTub
Some people did call it that.
It was probably my favourite episode of the season.
SAME!
0:10 I definitely didn't spill my coffee. I'm fine.
Glidus jumpscare best intro no debate
honestly a little annoyed i used this joke on this video instead of holding on to it for a swankier video
@@Glidusrecycling is good for the environment, Gloibus
@@GlidusThe horse isnt dead yet Gildo, keep beating it.
@@Glidus Everyone knows that callback jokes are the funniest in all of comedy.
Oh my goodness this analysis duo just became the holy trinity because f•cking Supercuts arrived-
The Mysaria & Rhaenyra scene had vibes of the notorious “Myrish swamp” chapter from Feast. I suspect she’s being manipulated, just as Cersei was. The ominous music helps sell that too.
I didn't love the scene, it felt like something that should have come next episode, just kinda came out of nowhere, this episode should have had some manipulative lines or some weird or charged glances.
I am also reminded of Cersei, although book Rhaenyra is far more Cersei-like than Emma D'Arcy's interpretation. I feel like mysaria should be manipulating Rhaenyra.
@@TheZerech When the hug turned into a kiss I was on the fence about it but when they transitioned that energy to Rhaenyra jumping on her dragon and rolling credits I thought it was a pretty good way to end the episode.
Reptilia Decade is my favourite show of the week
Hey it's this guy
Sadly the vast majority of people do not openly pursue what they truly want most, especially when that thing is the love of a parent who you never felt loved by. I don’t think the fact Aemond isn’t blatantly expressing that he craves Alicent’s love means he doesn’t want it. He wasn’t taught how to build or strengthen those types of relationships. Can you imagine a scene of Aemond simply saying “mother I want us to have a better relationship”? I can’t. I can picture a conversation like that between Jace and Rhaenyra because she has always established that connection with him from early on. It’s incredibly challenging to approach those conversations with parents when that was never the nature of the relationship your entire life. So Aemond is chasing what will give him control because that’s what was modeled to him as the most important thing.
Yes, definitely. And we’ve seen this underlying pattern in their family before, with Aegon asking Alicent if she loves him in 1x09. Her response is essentially that the question is idiotic. Granted, that happened in a very specific high stress circumstance, but I think the fact that Alicent called him an “imbecile” combined with Aegon even having to ask his mother in the first place shows that this isn’t a typical conversation for their dynamic. It’s not something that’s easy for the child to broach, and it’s definitely not easy for the mother either. Although Alicent herself craves better relationships with her children, her response to Aegon opening that door is to shut him down (likely because she doesn’t know how to proceed from there; it’s uncomfortable and unknown, something she has no experience with from her own father’s parenting). That’s an emotional distance Aemond would have picked up on as well, just from growing up, so it makes sense that he doesn’t say what he feels here. Expressing this was never modeled to him, and it seems what was modeled to him was that his mother wouldn’t respond if he tried. Tragically, Alicent may have responded in that moment because we see her regretting the affects of her parenting, but Aemond’s perspective is different
@@rissjohnson3308
I still feel considerable sympathy for Aemond, despite his dickish behaviour this episode.
After attacking his brother he's probably beyond redemption, which is sad.
@@alanpennie Yeah, I do too, from my understanding they made Aemond more sympathetic in the show than the books but I haven’t read them. What he went through doesn’t justify what he does but it definitely makes it make sense at least to a degree as a viewer.
I think a better interpretation of "the people that don't want power are the best suited" is that the people that don't want it likely feel that way because they understand the burden of power.
Jon doesn't want to be commander of the night's watch for the sake of flaunting/abusing his authority. He is scared of having to make tough decisions, but knows no one else but him could even consider cooperation with the wildlings.
Essentially, thirst for power never fulfills people, so they just try to get more until it consumes them. People like Viserys are more likely to take council than people that think they always know best. It's not just "reluctant ruler = good ruler", and I don't think either GRRM or the shows are necessarily trying to generalize like that.
Jon may never have wanted power- but he always proves capable when he steps up, at need- & simply does his level best.
He took a leading role in the defense of Castle Black, despite not being Commander at that time. And after he becomes Commander, BookJon (& potentially before- as Mormont's personal steward, would have had access to his papers & correspondence) knows that Mormont was trying to re-staff some of the closed forts, & it was a rough juggling game- given how thin the Watch is - but after he has the Wildlings & even some of Stannis' men to make use of- he can seriously augment using Nights' Watch as commanders, while bulking out the forces he sends- which essentially doubles the number of forts he can re-open, increasing the Wall's protective range - he uses his predecessor's plan, but utilises his own skills, insight, & resources to improve it.
BookJon also tackles some of the Watch's hypocrisy & internal favouritism in things like appointing Satin as his personal steward- while Jon just looks at the guy's capabilities (& his trust in him), many more in the Watch only see a former 'boy-whore', which isn't fitting to the dignity of the Lord Commander (it's also possible that some might be looking at the pattern; Lord Mormont made Jon his personal steward, something Sam at once recognised as the first step of grooming Jon for future leadership- maybe others recognised that, too- but as Lord Commander's an elected position, that someone has to be put forward as an option, & the vote goes on until someone has the majority- so he could easily be frozen out were it to come to that) - the Watch seems like a meritocracy, & in some ways it is- it certainly takes virtually all-comers (minus women, but Jon even manages to challenge that to some degree, when he re-staffs one of the forts with spear-wives, serving under male commanders)- but just like the maesters, there's a ceiling with who they're willing to appoint to important positions...
Larys theory:
Larys wasn't really pushing for the Hand job.
He just wanted Aemond to keep underestimating him, so he acted as if he tried to pull a manipulation on Aemond for Aemond to see it and dismiss. He looked almost scared when it looked like Aemond was actually giving him the Hand job.
“Larys wasn’t really pushing for the Hand job” yeah cos he’s more of a foot guy
good point. might want to phrase it a bit diffrently though
"giving him hand job" 💀 bro
You're saying Larys was merely pretending to be interested in the hand job? That what he did was basically a boobytrap? Wow, he truly is a cunning linguist. A master debater, even.
"He looked almost scared when it looked like Aemond was actually giving him the Hand job" is uncomfortably close to how I would describe a very specific dream I had once.. and I'm certain a similar passage can be found in countless fanfictions across the internet.
I kinda understand why armies don't have scorpion throwers.
I bet the royal dragon riding family would ask a few questions as to why you're building weapons that have the sole purpose of killing their mounts.
If I had a dragon and was at war with more dragons that my family started, I also would not want the suffering people to be able to shoot me out of the sky.
The Lannisters will launch their lions at Caraxes out of special scorpions.
And Caraxes will roast them mid air and eat lol😂
@@Greeeenmoss They should give us that type of comedy but you know they won’t 😂
Big CATapults 🦁
Thank you glidus for bringing up that Simon also played Beria! I kept expecting him to pull out a sheaf of papers showing how many friends and family Daemon had purged from the Targaryen Communist Party
*Seasmoke: Why are you running!? WHY ARE YOU RUNNING!!?*
Has anyone considered Tyland Lannister is really Ser Hugh, and that Ser Gregor Clegane has a time traveling lance, that caused them to switch bodies?
wait.. is that not what happened?
@@jenn2839 #timetravelinglance
the lion thing with Jason Lannister might be a callback to his comment to Rhaenyra in S1, where he muses about how he has a place to put big beasts at Casterly Rock, but may have to build something new for a dragon (namely Syrax).
I think the implication might be here that Jason is coming to battle with lions to compete with dragons - once again showing just how up his own golden behind he is about the whole thing. he isn't taking this war seriously and thinks of it as more of an opportunity to show off than anything. which I'm sure will bite him in the arse down the line
Imagine how pissed Tywin would be watching Jason on this show.
@@jessjess23brooks89 Tywin would be pissed at everyone, tbf.
@@jessjess23brooks89
Jason might remind Tywin of his father.
@@alanpennie
Jason isn't weak & amiable- he's arrogant & self-important...
I can’t help but imagine that Otto was riding his horse back to Oldtown and then he just thought to himself “You know what? I think it’s time I had a little me time.” And then just galloping off to who knows where for some offscreen rest and relaxation from all the political scheming he’s been doing for the past few decades.
"You know what? I've been putting it off long enough. I'm going on that holiday in Lys I've always planned but never had time for. I deserve this."
"The Gods have yet to make a man with the patience needed to deal with my grandsons' nonsense"
Like Arya, he left Westeros to discover the Resteros
@@Frank_D "I may not look it but I am starting to feel it in my heart. I feel like butter scraped over too much bread. I need a very, very long holiday."
I want to see Otto Hightower's midlife crisis spinoff series
I think you're oversimplifying the idea that Aemond wants Alicent's love a little bit. I can absolutely see how this can be true for him deep down, but actually manifest outwardly as resentment and pushing Alicent away. Aemond seems like kind of person who would despise being emotionally dependent on anyone and interpret it as weakness. Just look at how he reacted to his relationship with Sylvie being discovered: by demeaning her, denying she was important to him in any way, and presumably never seeing her again. Also, remember how he spoke about Alicent to Criston in ep1? I think Aemond will strive to reduce Alicent's influence and push her away precisely because his need for her love gives her power over him, and he perceives that as a threat.
S1 Rhaenyra to Laenor: “I prefer duck to goose.”
John Cena: *”ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT!?”*
Wait a minute maybe duck was actually women and goose were men I KNEW THAT RHAENYRA WAS ALWAYS A LESBIAN FUCK BEING BI
Sexuality can be really fluid and change during your life several times. Someone can be straight for a long period of their life only to realise they are now bi/gay/Ace etc.
Well they never did exactly specify which is duck and which is goose…
@@rizon98it might also just mean that she prefers men over women but is still attracted to both. Bisexuality isn’t 50/50 it’s a spectrum that varies from person to person
@@nevaehaho61 Seeing as Laenor is full blown gay, I think we can reasonably assume which is which.
I wanna know who heard Criston Cole say “yeah guys let’s roll the literal decapitated symbol of the royal family to celebrate the victory of the royal family!” And still approved.
He's the hand! He doesn't need approval unfortunately
I think Gwayne was traumatised enough not to speak up
to be fair this specific dragon did do 9/11 like two weeks ago
@hibiscusflowers4436 yeah but that was super cool and symbolic of Rhaenys' character arc, which the smallfolk of Kings Landing would obviously understand
Tbf Aemond should have told him no. Cole legit doesn't know any better bc hes from a small house and is of dornish descent.
I would like to point out that at the council of 101, a random dude shows up and claims to be a descendant of Gaemon Targaryen, indicating that a daughter of Gaemon had married off out of the family. That dude was supposedly 9 generations off the main branch but it does show that women marrying out of the family is not unheard of, and that the historical count does not remember every family member
I think the black liquid on the tapestry is meant to be the dragon's blood. When Sunfyre came crashing down, he spluttered black blood all over the foot soldiers.
I don't know what edition of fire and blood i was reading but from when I read it, it was as follows:
Season 1: 100-120 pages
Season 2: 40-50 pages
Depending on how they prolong the series (the entire dance of dragons is like 270 pages
Season 3: 40- 60 pages
Season 4: 40-50 Pages
Otto is just busy chilling, sipping a mojito on a Dornish beach
He's well out of the KL snakepit.
Possibly the only more unwelcome environment for Otto would be Dorne lol (being a lord of the Reach)
"Martinis were sipped in the hours preceeding Aegon's burning."
"Who was in paris?" - Seasmoke
Seasmoke’s voice is just Kat Williams
Steph thought he was chill 😭
Seasmoke's the strongest dragon cause he can say the gamer word
Racism inbound in 3..2...
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I think the reason that Daemon continues to suspect and threaten Simon Strong but not Alys Rivers is because Daemon has come to respect Alys, as we see when he asks for her council and speaks politely to her, whereas Daemon doesn't respect Simon who he perceives as weak and beneath him, so he demeans and bullies Simon, which is a behavior we see Daemon perpetuate many times to other characters who he considers unworthy of or beneath him. I think Daemon doesn't respect anyone who can't prove (in his eyes at least) that they can stand up to him. Daemon only respects strength and fearlessness and resents servility. So I think Alys has sort of won his respect with her "does not give a fuck" attitude whereas Simon keeps trying to pacify Daemon which he perceives as weakness. We also see Daemon suspect people like Otto and others he considers beneath him as being "grasping." Daemon secretly fears and suspects that anyone beneath him MUST want what he has and that they WILL eventually betray him if given the chance in order to raise themselves up at Daemon's expense, which is what he feels towards Rhaenyra; that she connived and "stole" what was rightfully his.
I also think that physically bullying and threatening and demeaning others is simply a way for Daemon to subconsciously reclaim some of the control he feels he's lost during his Weirwood dreams.
....he could be dumb?
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At Rook’s Rest, anyone close enough to clearly see Vhagar burn Sunfire in the sky, was then squashed by Vhagar landing on top of them and / or burned to death. Easy to say “just look up” if you don’t wear a helmet with a Nasal or Kettle brim while you podcast 😹
Bruh it would be pretty hard to miss two Boeing sized monsters fighting each other, especially in as clear a condition as that day.
Plus, Meleys and Sunfyre were grappling each other at the time; hundreds of feet in the air. From below, it would likely look like Vhager attacked Meleys, and Sunfyre was unintentionally injured while Aemond attempted to 'save' the king from Meleys jaws.
We only know the reality of what happened because we get a dragon's view of the action.
Folks on the castle wall that survived would have likely seen, since we're given their pov of the dragons arriving. But doubtful that would be an account that made it past dungeons lol.
"There are so many people who are going to be furious that Rhaenyra's finally kissing girls and it's *not* Alicent." 😅 Listen... I'll take what I can get!
It's the two dead dragons and Cole declaring victory.
Andy Cole or Joe Cole?
The black stuff is dragon blood or the fluid they use to breath fire, in the rooks rest episode you see it pour out of sunfire in the scene where he nearly hits the ground. It also seems to burn people it lands on.
I think in the show they’re almost making the case that Corlys philandered as a young man but then stopped… grew up, stopped taking Rheyneas for granted, and it lead to a rare healthy marriage with them. Hence, the Hull brothers present as older. And the Laenor being the father rumor is basically abandoned in HoTD allowing for this suggestion.
To be fair most book readers also agree that Corlys is their father since Laenor is pretty well known for liking men.
The make out session was done perfectly, in my opinion.
It started with a moment of passion with the hug, then both of them show slight interest in more intimacy by moving their heads closer to the other, they both wait for consent to be requested and given.
With the loaded atmosphere just before it I was ready to absolutely hate the dynamic, which made it all the better when they still held back enough for a silent conversation.
NOW MY WEEK HAS PURPOSE. Thank you Glimbus and Schwiftus
1:12:05 Glimbo's "yeah" made me laugh so hard, i started choking. Smg. 😅😅😅
I don’t know if anyone else has said this but at 1:46:40 Addam’s rope work is framed in such a way it looks like he is riding a rope dragon, which is lovely foreshadowing
Just want to add... F#@k barnacles!!!
If you discount "Princess" as an inaccurate descriptor, remember that a younger daughter of Gaemon Targaryen married a minor lord, whose descendent pressed a claim at Harrenhal. Aereana Targaryen could be a common ancestor of this claimant and Steffon Darklyn.
AEMOND IS AN DRAGON TYPE POKEMON TRAINER
MR SHIFIWITY CONFIRMED
What is the Stormlands doing? I don’t think it’s been mentioned since a Son for a Son so what is Borros doing? Just a quick little ‘Lord Borros is staying in his castle because he’s scared shitless Rhaenyra will show up and burn Storm’s End to the ground for inadvertently killing her son’ or something. It was a big deal to get the Baratheon’s last season and it made sense for both teams: North was too far away to matter in the short term, Vale is Team Black 🖤, Westerlands is Team Green 💚, Iron Islands is team Red Kraken ❤️🦑, Riverlands and Reach are a free for all because the Great Houses are weak, Dorne is doing its own thing, the Stormlands was the biggest unclaimed region. And it’s one of the closest to Crownlands, surely they would get updates on their armies mustering first.
I honestly thought Rhaenyra was gonna have some strong words with Borros while corpse hunting. That would have been a nice bit of tension.
And hey maybe the greens have been sending ravens to Borros and he just can't read them 😂
In the books iirc he declares for the greens but fuxks off to fight some dornish dude. So he's not really relevant till later in the story. Also the pacing is weird this season so it's not super clear when things are happening lol
i really love the kiss bc it shows how needed rhae wanted to be for once, it adds more perspective to her mindset
It shows her attachment issues that have been rooted since the death of Aemma, and she’s throwing herself at someone that can take her back to a feeling she had with Alicent before all of her attachment issues were formed. She can fulfill what untouched desires she may have had with Alicent now and it prob feels extremely cathartic for those desires to finally be fulfilled
I think it just showed rhae has a little yellow fever in her like the rest of us westerners . Completely relatable
@@willbeard4835 she’ll get back to good health in no time no worries
@@willbeard4835oh..oh ew
@@nikhily2993 incurable my friend
1:13:43 is a such a sweet moment between you and Schwift, such wholesome creators
OK. No one is talking about this with Seasmoke but I swear that it makes the most sense. Steffon Darklyn says "serve me" and Seasmoke recoils, but then looks at the dragon keepers and Targaryens, and extends its neck to serve them. Then as Steffon approaches he speaks in common with Seasmoke staring him down, and Seasmoke only wants that high Valrian love in it's life. Then the fire and the screaming happens. But Steffon keeps saying 'serve' up until he's extra crispy. SO after some light torching Seasmoke kips off...but I don't think he just kips off the cold blooded puppy listened! and he's going to 'serve' hence the tracking down the dude that looks the most like his old Bae that also shares half his blood. How am I the only one who sees this?
Dragon blood is black on this show for some reason. That's the stuff flowing towards the throne.
Dragonkeepers: 'hey lets prank him by not giving him a dragonglass dagger to off himself. That'll be a hoot.'
Only 11 seconds in and glidus gives me the giggles. Also the Jason Lannister nipples comment came up I was thinking the converstation with the blacksmith went something like "Oh but George Clooney had nipples on his armor, I demand mine be fancier!" and in the background you hear DBZA's Zarbon go "Mmmmmm"! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Minus the 'princess' bit, there were absolutely other Targaryens - the wife of Aegon's son, Aenys- Alyssa Velaryon's mother was an unnamed Targaryen - Aenar came to Dragonstone with wives, plural- as well as siblings (meaning there were minor branch Targaryens well before the Blackfyres), but there's very little detail in the earlier family tree - other than the second unnamed daughter of Daenys & Gaemon, who married 'a petty lord', & had at least one descendant who lived long enough to be one of the 14 initial claimants at the Great Council of 101AC - 5 of which have unclear identities; there was another that claimed to be a bastard of Maegor, as well as a man who claimed to be a bastard of Jaehaerys himself- & three unnamed claimants, with no detail regarding their ancestry.
I'm a bit frustrated that the show's simplifying/ conflation is risking straying into incongruous D&D territory...
'Fire & Blood' notes that Queen Rhaenys, & later Queen Alysanne put a lot of focus on arranging inter-realm marriages, to help knit the new united Westeros together (possibly as a means of supporting Aegon/ Jaehaerys' vision for a united realm, come the awaited Long Night) -- as is apparent with the reaction against Torrhen's daughter marrying Ronnel Arryn, this didn't always go smoothly early on - however, we also don't know what the pre-Conquest inter-realm marriage situation was, & given later inter-realm marriages did not usually elicit any protests on that score- it can be assumed a success, relatively speaking.
That 'petty lord' Daenys & Gaemon's daughter married could have been a Darklyn.
It's pretty certain a few Targaryan women, especially before the conquest, married outside the family as Aenar seems to have been the last man in the family to practice polygamy until Aegon married _both_ his sisters. It's implied that Rheanys, under other circumstances, would have married outside the family; likely to a Velaryon.
It seems they had more family members then dragons in the years before the conquest and likely had to divest themselves of as many dependent family members as possible since Dragonstone is a small, rocky island that doesn't have much going for it outside of roosting dragons on the volcano.
huhuhuh, imagine being a poor and only having access to 113 mins of “smallfolk” recap
Meat! Meat! We want meat!
35:00
Ewan Mitchell said that Aemond fires alicent precisely because he wants her love and that clouds his judgement, so he does it to be more focused
That makes sense.
Though of course he's also expressing his understandable resentment.
I think the lions are in front because you wouldn't want any of your men in their way if you have to let them out to fight
I'd imagine they'd just turn around and attack whoever put them in the cage in the first place. Please, please 🙏 let us see that HotD.
Caraxes has just been hissing and garbbling at that weirwood since he landed, like a cat at a random corner at 4am
gizzing my lizard while lizzening to gizzard wizard and whizzing lizard hour(s! (practically))
Is that valerian
A caged Rose?.. Terrifying.......
Now I need a video of Simon Strong yelling, “SVETLANA!”
the only line of dialogue that Vissy didn’t repeat from episode one was Rheanryas name. he only says that daemon should have been by his side. thought that was neat
1:50:54 next time on glidus: "issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the ironborn. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them""
I'd argue that if you had 100 castles, & only 5 dragons - rather than only picking 5- you would create a ranging area for each, where they could protect/ monitor the castles & roads within that area - the bigger the dragon, the bigger the area- meaning 5 dragons _could_ protect, or at least scout the land around *more* than one castle.
But one would have to take into account the need for dragon & rider to rest, as shown by Rhaenys & Maelys in the earlier episode- meaning they would be ranging *_from_* one castle, in particular. And, by necessity, some would have to go begging- but that's where the rest of your resources come into play; men as scouting patrols, & ravens- who can give alerts ahead of army deployment.
I think Daemon is fully aware of that fact that Alys is giving him the visions and he is just so terrified of her and what she obviously knows about him that the only way for him to deal right now is to desperately try to gaslight himself into believing that there isn't actually anything magical going on in the first place.
He's so unwilling to deal with the truth of what he is finding out about himself (and also probably the revelation that magic is real and he is actively being bewitched in the most literal sense of the word), that he refuses to acknowledge the reality right in front of him.
Jason brought Lions because they have an upkeep cost of only 132 gold and can be used to scatter ranged infantry
1:12:00 I'd appreciate you guys not to hack my DM's. Ryan Condal did, as you know, say to me "Hey Joe which of the crap you yap about do you want to see in the season? Idk whatever it is you do, just pick something you nerd. I need the buy in from you specifically this season at any cost." And of course I said "Daemon in the Shining in Harrenhal, make Alys a Greenseer, heavily hint Larys had something to do with Blood and Cheese for two episodes then drop it entirely, and make up a Targaryen princess to piss off specifically Glidus. Thanks Ryan, and stop negging me. If you want to hang out just say so." And yeah, we have a beautiful friendship now after he dropped the passive aggressive stuff.
reporting back from Nebula saying that yes, I have indeed watched The Fake John Snow. on one level, getting to listen to these two talk media analysis for 24 hours is a lovely gift, on another watching the show from the scope of a single character asks interesting questions about what each character knows and is motivated by, and yet on a third note, half the runtime is just them taking the piss from seasons 7 & 8, seriously, 12 hours in, and the first six seasons are done because all the gentle work of a mortician is over with. The last 12 hours is just the desecration of a corpse. There were no survivors. 10/10 would watch another cut.
Seasmoke is like "once you go black, you can't go back"
RUclips has been my main content platform forever and yall are the ones that finally got me to get nebula. Needed more lizard talk asap
If I remember correctly, when we first meet Alyn, we see huge holes in the side of the ship. So i assume repairing the planks/hull, removing the barnacle, and scrubbing the poop deck is why Alyn is so damn reluctant every time, and it's taken weeks. Like leave me alone estranged bio-dad i have a job to do >.
Why is no one questioning Alys getting from Harrenhal to Riverrun in 3 days?! Maybe even less since a raven made it back to Harrenhal with the news Grover died.
she's an owl 😉
She was probably already there and she's using weird magic to interact with daemon
The owl carried her
I thought she sent the owl to someone else who "took care" of old Tully
She’s an owl! She told us, why would she lie?
Do you think the black stuff in the tapestry maybe means rot. Coming from melys head towards the iron throne representing the deterioration of the Targaryen’s power and image as viewed by the rest of Westeros
Was about to go to bed but glimbus and schwifty posted another dragon time so sleep must wait
Happy to see the shout out to Joe Magician...he makes great content, is a nice guy with a great sense of humour and is well deserving of the support :)
Alyssa velaryon (Jaehaerys’s mother) was half Targaryen, so they did let dragon blood into the velaryon family tree.
Thank god, I cannot survive the week without my dragon time, also if you can upload a slightly updated version even in a couple of months would be amazing. understand if not though
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Dragonstone (& Driftmark) was Valyria's westernmost outpost, having been settled some two centuries before the Doom- & the Targs arrived 12 years before the Doom -- not knowing the pre-Doom governance situation there, I would posit that if there were no dragonlords already there (perhaps they were recalled to help with the Rhoynar situation & failed to return), on the arrival of Aenar & his 5 dragons (plus however many eggs)- that the governing authority there would give way to them.
It's not unrealistic to imagine non-Targaryen dragons, when you take the history into account.
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Gods, I'm spoiled!
I love just how impractical Jason Lannisters armor is. It’s just to show how the people of this period just have not been to war.
Daemon desperately wants to think he'w the main character, and Alys is doing everything in her power to bash it in his head that he isn't.
Much like another owl, she just needs to trap him in an endless loop by talking at him for hours and making "yes" the default option. Would clear up a lot of confusion.
My interpretation of Seasmoke rejecting Stephon was that Stephon disrespected Smokey at the end. Steph is very nervous and and fearful of the dragon, and rhe keeprs are instructing him to show respect. Seasmoke eventually lowers himself to Stephon's level so that he may be mounted, and Steph drops all interest in treating the dragon as a living creature, and strides towards him, claiming he's done it and assuming that Seasmoke is his to command. Cue the barbecue.
One thing I really like about the HotD dragons so far is that they feel like actual sentient beings with personality. GoT, Rhaegal and Viserion are just. There. They're mostly just accessories for Dany to look cool, and are sacrificed to the plot for drama. Even Drogon's only character moment is glaring at Jon for macking on his mommy. Drogon had so little character that him showing intelligence or burning the throne came completely out of left field.
Maybe I was just spoiled as a kid, because the Predacon(avoiding spoilers) in TFP was a very well written "Giant ancient beastie that os substantially smarter than any of the characters care to admit," and I was hoping the adult show would be able to handle that. Btw, HotD revived my lifelong obsession with dragons, so thinks for causing another hyper fixation wildfire, y'all. Much appreciated.
Little known fact: SeaSmoke has very bad eyesight. He’s far-sighted so it’s tough to see things right in front of him. Without a rider, he has trouble landing. He chased Adam in excitement for he truly believes to have found Leanor. Complexion and Valyrian blood checks out. Now we know why Ser Darklyn was rejected.
Racist dragons. We love it.
@@wilsonsilva2918 lmao SeaSmoke’s PR team credits his eyesight.