Thanks for showing us all the details on what makes this car work so well. Very interesting stuff. I love this car. Glad you guys are keeping her as original as possible for the class.
My first 69 Z/28 was in 76, it was beat up on the outside and the trunk didn't have the spatter paint anymore. It had a very strong 302 4spd, and 4.56 gear. I was 16 it didn't take long to get banned from my school parking lot, and not much longer to get a pile of tickets. Mom made me sell it, I took the $500.and got a slow car 67 mustang 428 cobra jet automatic.
Nice! My first car was a gutted out ‘67 Camaro rs (it was an ss too, but I didn’t know that until after I sold it. Duh). It had a 400 that I built, a full manual th400 that I built, and a 10 bolt 4.56 posi (until I blew it up). Miss that car. Lotsa burnouts in the Sonic and high school parking lots. Got that car in 2001.
I appreciate you not wanting to cut the car up for the sake of a quicker ET. I'm in the same situation with my sons 3rd gen Camaro. The car is so nice and all original except for the paint and a mild 383. He wants to go faster, but I won't even take the spare tire out of the 3500 pound beast. I enjoy tinkering around with it, and we only got 3 passes on it, but it has gone a 1.8 sixty foot and 12.90 @106 on set of 245/50/16 half bald Chinese radial tires. It still has the junk 7.5 rear axel with 3.42 gears, and stock convertor, mid length headers with single 3 inch exhaust. The car has more in it. We might swap out the .456 lift cam for something bigger, and better ignition, but the car will idle very nicely as is. We are now looking for a mid size G body wagon that we can cut up and make a sleeper out of.
Thanks for the overview. Excellent !! I graduated in 1966, so these were all around as a young man. I was playing with Fords and Mercury's (S-55 390 4-speed) and thought we were hot stuff going 12's on street tires ... Back in the day, the hot street tire were Atlas Plycron's. Unique rubber compound that hooked on average street pavement. I doubt you could run them on a prep'd track. They'd wad up on you ... But it's good to see real survivors out still runnin. Keep up the good work 🙂
Thanks for bringing the Camaro back! I had a power disc brake Gm A body. When I took the brake power booster off, the pushrod and clevis went to a higher hole on the pedal and I had nice manual disc brakes with great pedal feel and no booster. Street car never went over 100, don’t know if manual brakes would work on the track.
Nice work. Love the Camaro. Data logging is absolutely vital even for us bracket racers.😀 Agree that some of the best tuning tools are the starting videos. 9.50s/ 145-148 mph is very respectable. Stock body with driver 3400 lbs with driver? Love that stock suspension with a 9” tire going 9’s on regular basis. 330 foot onward must really build some serious steam! Good luck to you in 2022!😎
Kudos! Quite amazing stuff you're doing on stock tires. I used to think I was doing something when I'd squeak out a sub-12 second run w/ my '67 fastback Mustang that I built a 351C w/ a M-21 tranny out to a set of 3:90 gears on 50 series tires. You've got that Camaro D-I-A-L-E-D I-N! I could have benefitted from more attention to chassis knowledge vs my obsession w/ carb tuning and port work. Sadly, that Mustang got taken out by a drunk, while driving home after a knight of racing at Pamona Speedway back in '82. Fun times in that old Pony.
Sorry to hear about the car... I will say sub 12s is pretty impressive for back then! I'm glad you said that lol, It's hard for me to get other racers that have grown up in the muscle car era to pay attention to suspension. To this day I still try to talk my dad into some new advance shocks for his corvette, I haven't been able to talk him into it just yet! Thanks for watching!
Terrific video . To me, FAST, is one the most extinguished programs in Drag racing. 9’s on those tires with essentially “stock” suspension is just magic (and science) Congrats on your. Build snd driving. The only thing missing is seeing your “cars & coffee” gem dust a 300k Mclaren. Seriously, sowing what these old stock chassis can do is awesome. I thought getting my ‘70’s Hemingway Cuda in the high tens was a big deal lol..
By far. I haven't seen any other channels putting out the type of behind the scenes footage he has been uploading. I'd love a detailed vid on the Corvette too.
When a car is that original..... Change the engine and tranny but retain the OE drivetrain for when you're done playing with it. So neat to see something so intact and so rust free.
Years back I helped build a clone of a E-body hemi K-frame out of aluminum. We spent days on making the welds look correct then painted it mat black. We charged him around $3000.00 if I remember correctly.
I absolutely love your Camaro it's the cleanest I ever seen for racing it like you do and it's so cool looking with that stock looking small tires. I would have so much fun winning money racing that on the street with guys thinking there's no way that camaro will beat us on them tires and then you just smoke them right off the line and your gone.
What do I think, thank you for sharing that info yes I most definitely love the car and yes keep it as stock as you can being that it's as clean and original that it is, looking forward to future episodes keep doing what you're doing it's definitely appreciate it.
That was great, thanks for the tour! Great videos too. This is my favorite class in drag racing, I just wish they did this out here in the west. The in-car and multiple shots of each run is awesome.
Beautiful Camaro you have there! I would keep it as it is also and would rather run it in a slower class than cut it up and install a full-blown racing cage in it. I know, that is counter to some people's thinking, but I appreciate street-machine type performance more than "track-only" cars. That is why I like the limitations of the "stock" tire in your class. Anyone can install tubs, slicks and spooled rearends and such, but it takes finesse to make a car accelerate that hard with those tires as if it were still a street-machine. Once you cut up a car to chase after that ever-quicker E.T., you just switched from a fun and challenging hobby to a brutal kidney-pounding job. Maybe I am strange, but I never want to make my hobby into a toilsome chore. Once you are determined that you have to keep going faster, you are actually on a pre-determined road of ever-increasing expense and the risk of parts breakage and injury goes up exponentially. Anyway, I love your cars for what they are, and I hope you have many more years of enjoyment with them. Be safe and God Bless you guys in this New Year!
Neat car! Neat video! I clicked in just to learn something about how in the world you made those hard street tires do anything and still carry the weight I got sucked into the overall build of the car because it hauls ass and is very clean, stock and put together looking compared to the small tire grudge cars that we are complacent with seeing.They are building cars with bailing wire because they plan on hanging them on the fence.
Subscribed! The only thing that trips me up is those skinny back tires. I'm amazed at how fast you run with those tires. I'm so impressed at how you kept from cutting the car up and manage those impressive times. It leaves so straight and drama-free. Thanks for showing the car in detail to us.
@@HorsepowerDepot do you put tire softener on it🤔. We used to mix turpentine and kerosene mix on our go kart tires. We would wrap tire with air in it lightly with gauze and soak it once a day until the weekend. They would be so soft you could gouge a piece out with fingernail😁
Very impressive car. Really like that stock sleeper look you did. I have a bench seat colum shift 70 Chevelle and just about to attempt the mod you did on your colum shift. Wondering if you would share any info or details on the fabrication work that went into it. Good luck with all your projects. Stay safe 👍
I guarantee there a lot to learn from doing something that didn't work out like you hoped it would. When something doesn't work, do it a little differently. That's how you learn. It helps that they have raced 68-69 Camaros in many different forms for over 20 years. Having the dyno in the other room doesn't hurt either. It saves having to drive 75 miles to see if that new part helped or hurt performance. :big thumbs up:
There is a lot of knowledge out there for Camaros. But I’ve learned almost all of what guys with slicks and drag radials do doesn’t work with the bias ply tires.
Awesome video! Your car 60 foots just as fast as my nova with about 3 times the tire as your camaro lol crazy how good you guys can launch on such little tire
That bolt together torque converter, set up to give a soft hit but then not be slushy down track is money well spent to make this kind of combo work. It hits soft enough that he doesn't run traction bars, just real good mono leaf springs. Tunable shocks, to see what the car wants.
We got an 8 sec toyota supra on stock wheels and tires. Its called a contolled launch and gradually increasing hp as speed increases. You start with low hp on launch and end up with top hp by the end of the track.
Can’t go wrong with a Supra! Sounds like it runs good! We can’t run a power adder in the class. If we could I couldn’t even imagine the times we would run on 6 inch wide tires!
Great video, could you explain more about how the vacuum motor is benefitting the setup and helping free up some power? Also could you talk about the timing setup and kind of timing maps are being used? Thanks!
What size tire and what gear ratio in the rear end??? That has a lot to do with mph. I am very curious to know that. Awesome build and very sharp car. You have something to be very proud about sir
If you'll work on the hood alignment, this car will pickup 6 or 8 tenths. (Driver's side is high and the passenger's side is low.) That might even be the reason she was lurching to the right on every launch. With the hood straightened up you can start to tweak your anti-roll-bar and find those couple tenths and maybe even 8 or 10 more mph ... Who knows? Anyways, point it somewhere and stomp the pedal. Good luck this season!
That was an eye-opener! Thanks for sharing! BTW, was really surprised to see a 12-bolt...and it didn't even have an aftermarket cover with main cap supports, etc.!
Did you install subframe connectors? Also you mentioned not being sure about the Caltracs split leaf. What other options are there? Old school superstockers used the slider-mount single leaf spring with traction bars.
Here is a trick you may nit know.Your column shifter,instead of pulling it in,then shifting it up,just push it,kind of hard,forward and up,just as it starts to slide up it should click right into 2nd,same for 3rd.i hope I explained this well enough.
Thanks for the video, good job, if the Pro Mod guys come over with the big bucks it will ruin the class, big money has always done that. Look forward to your next one.
Very informative video, thanks for sharing your tips. A beautiful Camaro! One tip l have that l used for my car to stop the rubber sticking to the quarter panels was applying clear ‘removable’ vinyl for race day then remove it later.
Just spray Pam cooking oil on the quarter panel at the beginning of the day and days end it wipes right off I did this inside the wheels when I worked for Bud Moore, when the car came in the pit u had no brake dust blind you when the air hit the wheel just a little tip ,might help I don't know
Beautiful car. I'm certain many have said what you are doing is impossible.... And this video has probably won some arguments. "Man no way you can go into the 9's on stock tires" - proven wrong.
I have the same conundrum with my 79 Z-28! I'd really like to go out and do some small tire no prep with it but it's far too heavy! But it's a beautiful car and don't want to cut it up and make it lighter, it's the same as yours, never been in a wreck, never any panels replaced, trunk looks like the day it rolled off the assembly line! Looking at an S10 to make into a race truck but damn I hate to go that route! I like vehicle's to look tough as well as be fast, and an S10 or fox body doesn't look tough at all!!! Now not wanting to let out any secrets about your engine,,,, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 720 at the tire's, the biggest secret there would be 560 cubic inch!!! Cuz really not that hard to get that kinda power out of 560ci! When you have people such as turbo john making around 1300hp out of a 364ci small block, sure that's with a turbo but still. My son has a little 383 with some china Pro-Maxx head's (200cc) decent cam and intake and with a 200 shot of nitrous makes 580 to the tire's! I think what really makes your car a rare bird is that collum shifter! I get why you wouldn't change that, but I myself wouldn't be able to not change that deal! But it does make that care very rare I'd think! Only other Camaro I've ever seen with a collum shifter was a 74. Have fun in 2022 with it! Hopefully we'll all be able to race this year! Never know the way things are going with this BS administration!!!
"Cuz really not that hard to get that kinda power out of 560ci"! Without EFI, N/A, with manifolds, and basically a full exhaust...720 whp is pretty stout.
great video! really appreciate you sharing your hard earned knowledge. I honestly expected more tricks in that car.. pretty awesome that it is pretty original. mopar guys are not going to like this video 😂
Yeah it’s shocking how basic it is. It really exceeded my expectations for the year. I’m very happy with it! I’m guessing the mopar guys have a pen and paper taking notes when watching this!
Thank you, thank you, I always love it when F.A.S.T. comes to MIR or what we call the "creek". The air is always good and records are set (usually by Dave Dudek's hemi) then reset again the next year. I did not see subframe connectors under your car. I know the existing roll cage helps but do you think that a set of subframe connectors would also help? Good luck catching your dad's ets and mph. Please keep giving us insight on your car. Think about this, if you had this car back in the early 70's you would take everyone's money including Sox and Martin, Dick Landy, the Grump, and others including the silver bullet (who was sponsored by the factory engineers at dodge). They were only running in the tens back in the day. I love your car, keep getting faster.
Put some old school z28 pinched chambered mufflers on it put some on my 98 ls1 Trans am and it sounded so. Different than any ls around me until my buddy got the gmmg setup
Great video. I really like the story behind the car, especially how you preserved a nice car and did something cool with it. The FAST drags are one of the most interesting classes out there and I like hearing how you guys are running so fast.
We ran NMCA Top Stock and those Muscle Car Nationals and shootout events back in the 90's with Dad's 71 Monte Carlo SS 454 that started out as an NHRA stocker. Ran low 11's with mufflers which was fast for the time but it's really cool to see some of that scene and Pure Stock evolve into FAST and man 9.50's?! That's just awesome. Love some of these tricks too. It would be a deep 8's car with drag radials and some other things if they were allowed. Subscribed.
Would the Holley unit be worth while on a 500hp/530lb ft, 463ci 68 Firebird that’s 95% street driven and occasionally taken to the track? It’s really hard to get a good launch without spinning even with drag radials. It would be interesting to see how you go about installing it with the carburetor. Thanks
@@HorsepowerDepot I would also like to utilize a holley on my carb motor. Any info or help for install/usage would be geat. Thanks. Love the channel and especially the vehicles.
Great video, thank you for the info. Just curious can you give us a little info about the rear end? Not asking for gear ratio just curious how you get a 12 bolt to hold that kind of power. I'm building a 79 Camaro and have been out of hot rodding for 30+ years, having a hard time deciding which direction to go with the rear end setup. thanks!
I'm no expert, but if I had to guess it has to do with not hitting it with a ton of power on the low end (hence the focus on timing retard) and the fact that there's not a ton of grip from the skinny tires. Power + grip breaks rear ends and puts lots of stress on the rest of the drivetrain, too.
Bru... I used to run 9's all day on skinny tires and even lifted the front wheels past half track once I slapped on that Greyhound bus blower to the aircooled helicopter motor in my Tucker I drove in high school in the 90's
Since you guys started to allow some of the aftermarket parts it got me to thinking and it's in regards to the tires. Now if I remember right in an article Dudek wrote it was all about preserving original parts. Great. So why not require a tread depth for the rear tires? Throw a new wrench in the works for the class.... I know someone who has seen one of your mopar racers beat his head against the wall more than once trying to make big power with factory exhaust manifolds... Nice car!
A tire tread rule was a thing for a few races about 8 or so years ago, The racers hated it, the fans wanted to see faster passes, and the organizers got tired of checking tires after every pass. That rule got thrown away pretty quick. A copy of the FAST class runs out east, they check tire tread, they also lost most of their racers who have come to race in FAST, tire tread rule being one of many reasons they left that series.
@@HorsepowerDepot So much respect for what you guys do. It has to be just about the craziest class racing there is.... It's not cheap- just look at what you have in your arsenal alone. What would be interesting is if they would create a Day 2 class but that would probably be a stretch to police it. Keep up the work- one of you is headed into the 8's....
It had one years ago, it actually got broke winching the car onto a trailer. They look much better with a front spoiler. Id like to find out one day if it helps aeros or hurts them.
Dude! She’s badass! How much faster does she need to be?! lol. I got mad respect for anybody running 9s on motor in itself, let alone on 235 hard compound tires and mostly factory parts
Honestly, the car has never wheel hopped. It’s had split monos and landrum multi leaf springs on it. It hasn’t wheel hopped on either springs. Currently running the landrums.
Thanks for the reply, I literally just found your channel by searching for leaf spring setups on stock appearing drag cars. I’d like to eliminate wheel hop without using traction aids. Looks like I’ll be watching your videos for a while, lots of great content. 🍻
Were you at Beaver springs dragway in pa? We run a gasser class and I’ve seen the FAST guys there and thats the way to go. Always wanted to race my 68 chevelle in that class
Respect the Vintage! Nothing says IM A BOSS like factory interior
Very impressive. Going mid 9 s on those tires .
Going mid 9s with no cage...crazy stupid.😮
Thanks for showing us all the details on what makes this car work so well. Very interesting stuff. I love this car. Glad you guys are keeping her as original as possible for the class.
Not many understand how cool this really is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My first 69 Z/28 was in 76, it was beat up on the outside and the trunk didn't have the spatter paint anymore. It had a very strong 302 4spd, and 4.56 gear. I was 16 it didn't take long to get banned from my school parking lot, and not much longer to get a pile of tickets. Mom made me sell it, I took the $500.and got a slow car 67 mustang 428 cobra jet automatic.
Nice! My first car was a gutted out ‘67 Camaro rs (it was an ss too, but I didn’t know that until after I sold it. Duh). It had a 400 that I built, a full manual th400 that I built, and a 10 bolt 4.56 posi (until I blew it up). Miss that car. Lotsa burnouts in the Sonic and high school parking lots. Got that car in 2001.
I appreciate you not wanting to cut the car up for the sake of a quicker ET. I'm in the same situation with my sons 3rd gen Camaro. The car is so nice and all original except for the paint and a mild 383. He wants to go faster, but I won't even take the spare tire out of the 3500 pound beast. I enjoy tinkering around with it, and we only got 3 passes on it, but it has gone a 1.8 sixty foot and 12.90 @106 on set of 245/50/16 half bald Chinese radial tires. It still has the junk 7.5 rear axel with 3.42 gears, and stock convertor, mid length headers with single 3 inch exhaust. The car has more in it. We might swap out the .456 lift cam for something bigger, and better ignition, but the car will idle very nicely as is. We are now looking for a mid size G body wagon that we can cut up and make a sleeper out of.
True, I wish they gave give extra points to make up for that.
Thanks for the overview. Excellent !!
I graduated in 1966, so these were all around as a young man. I was playing with Fords and Mercury's (S-55 390 4-speed) and thought we were hot stuff going 12's on street tires ... Back in the day, the hot street tire were Atlas Plycron's. Unique rubber compound that hooked on average street pavement. I doubt you could run them on a prep'd track. They'd wad up on you ... But it's good to see real survivors out still runnin. Keep up the good work 🙂
12s back in the day was fast! You grew up in a time that I would love to have been around! Thanks for watching!
Thanks for bringing the Camaro back!
I had a power disc brake Gm A body. When I took the brake power booster off, the pushrod and clevis went to a higher hole on the pedal and I had nice manual disc brakes with great pedal feel and no booster. Street car never went over 100, don’t know if manual brakes would work on the track.
cool want to do that with my c-3
Nice work. Love the Camaro. Data logging is absolutely vital even for us bracket racers.😀 Agree that some of the best tuning tools are the starting videos. 9.50s/ 145-148 mph is very respectable. Stock body with driver 3400 lbs with driver? Love that stock suspension with a 9” tire going 9’s on regular basis. 330 foot onward must really build some serious steam! Good luck to you in 2022!😎
Thanks! and yes 3400 with me in it.
Love it! Also gotta love laconic engine description i thought it was stock but the moment you said 562 v8 everything became clear haha
Kudos! Quite amazing stuff you're doing on stock tires. I used to think I was doing something when I'd squeak out a sub-12 second run w/ my '67 fastback Mustang that I built a 351C w/ a M-21 tranny out to a set of 3:90 gears on 50 series tires. You've got that Camaro D-I-A-L-E-D I-N! I could have benefitted from more attention to chassis knowledge vs my obsession w/ carb tuning and port work. Sadly, that Mustang got taken out by a drunk, while driving home after a knight of racing at Pamona Speedway back in '82. Fun times in that old Pony.
Sorry to hear about the car... I will say sub 12s is pretty impressive for back then! I'm glad you said that lol, It's hard for me to get other racers that have grown up in the muscle car era to pay attention to suspension. To this day I still try to talk my dad into some new advance shocks for his corvette, I haven't been able to talk him into it just yet! Thanks for watching!
Terrific video . To me, FAST, is one the most extinguished programs in Drag racing. 9’s on those tires with essentially “stock” suspension is just magic (and science) Congrats on your. Build snd driving. The only thing missing is seeing your “cars & coffee” gem dust a 300k Mclaren. Seriously, sowing what these old stock chassis can do is awesome. I thought getting my ‘70’s Hemingway Cuda in the high tens was a big deal lol..
You put up the best FAST footage out of anyone. Great video! Would be cool to do the same video but on your dads Vette.
By far. I haven't seen any other channels putting out the type of behind the scenes footage he has been uploading.
I'd love a detailed vid on the Corvette too.
Yup I'm watching. Old videos. Of your beautiful. 69. Camaro. I do miss it. Thanks
What a great car. Thanks for saving her and putting her in her natural habitat!
Wow mad respect for going that fast on those tires!
Thank you for your time,I love a lot your ZL1 clone,your amazing to show some of your mods,like you say,nobody in your class will copy this video ;)
When a car is that original.....
Change the engine and tranny but retain the OE drivetrain for when you're done playing with it.
So neat to see something so intact and so rust free.
Years back I helped build a clone of a E-body hemi K-frame out of aluminum. We spent days on making the welds look correct then painted it mat black. We charged him around $3000.00 if I remember correctly.
I absolutely love your Camaro it's the cleanest I ever seen for racing it like you do and it's so cool looking with that stock looking small tires. I would have so much fun winning money racing that on the street with guys thinking there's no way that camaro will beat us on them tires and then you just smoke them right off the line and your gone.
What do I think, thank you for sharing that info yes I most definitely love the car and yes keep it as stock as you can being that it's as clean and original that it is, looking forward to future episodes keep doing what you're doing it's definitely appreciate it.
1 MIN IN AND I LOVE THE WHOLE DEAL...AND THE OLD SCHOOL TOWER SPEAKERS ON THE SHOP WALL!!!
Ty for posting this. Love the cars ! Not only the sleeper element but every aspect of it.
If you do go, no prep back up the track backside.Whatever you want to call it no preparation.Make sure you get long travel shocks for the front
That was great, thanks for the tour! Great videos too. This is my favorite class in drag racing, I just wish they did this out here in the west. The in-car and multiple shots of each run is awesome.
Seems like we always have to go east to see the good stuff! Which js lame because all the best scenery for tracks in my opinion is out west
Great Video!!! thx for sharing. Never was a big fan of the Camera but this one is a fav for sure as is this channel which ROCKS, THX.
That car from the setup and how it looks that was a factory Coco car. The best of the best
Beautiful Camaro you have there! I would keep it as it is also and would rather run it in a slower class than cut it up and install a full-blown racing cage in it. I know, that is counter to some people's thinking, but I appreciate street-machine type performance more than "track-only" cars. That is why I like the limitations of the "stock" tire in your class. Anyone can install tubs, slicks and spooled rearends and such, but it takes finesse to make a car accelerate that hard with those tires as if it were still a street-machine. Once you cut up a car to chase after that ever-quicker E.T., you just switched from a fun and challenging hobby to a brutal kidney-pounding job. Maybe I am strange, but I never want to make my hobby into a toilsome chore. Once you are determined that you have to keep going faster, you are actually on a pre-determined road of ever-increasing expense and the risk of parts breakage and injury goes up exponentially. Anyway, I love your cars for what they are, and I hope you have many more years of enjoyment with them. Be safe and God Bless you guys in this New Year!
Neat car! Neat video! I clicked in just to learn something about how in the world you made those hard street tires do anything and still carry the weight I got sucked into the overall build of the car because it hauls ass and is very clean, stock and put together looking compared to the small tire grudge cars that we are complacent with seeing.They are building cars with bailing wire because they plan on hanging them on the fence.
Thanks for watching!
Subscribed! The only thing that trips me up is those skinny back tires. I'm amazed at how fast you run with those tires. I'm so impressed at how you kept from cutting the car up and manage those impressive times. It leaves so straight and drama-free. Thanks for showing the car in detail to us.
Thanks for subscribing! It's been a challenge to get it to run how it does, but we've learned a bunch and most importantly had a lot of fun doing it!
@@HorsepowerDepot do you put tire softener on it🤔. We used to mix turpentine and kerosene mix on our go kart tires. We would wrap tire with air in it lightly with gauze and soak it once a day until the weekend. They would be so soft you could gouge a piece out with fingernail😁
Way fast and super clean Camaro. Love watching these FAST series cars.
I don’t have a FAST car but I can definitely use some of your tricks to help me!
Very impressive car. Really like that stock sleeper look you did. I have a bench seat colum shift 70 Chevelle and just about to attempt the mod you did on your colum shift. Wondering if you would share any info or details on the fabrication work that went into it. Good luck with all your projects. Stay safe 👍
Awesome video deeply appreciate your honesty love your clone ZL1 69 is a one of a kind!!
Thank You!
Great car beautiful condition, I like the way you have saved it.
I guarantee there a lot to learn from doing something that didn't work out like you hoped it would. When something doesn't work, do it a little differently. That's how you learn. It helps that they have raced 68-69 Camaros in many different forms for over 20 years. Having the dyno in the other room doesn't hurt either. It saves having to drive 75 miles to see if that new part helped or hurt performance. :big thumbs up:
There is a lot of knowledge out there for Camaros. But I’ve learned almost all of what guys with slicks and drag radials do doesn’t work with the bias ply tires.
@@HorsepowerDepot There is no substitute for years of experience, trial and error, and data.
Bless your grandpa for paving the way. That’s an awesome hugger orange 69. You definitely are knowledgeable and have great content. Sub’d
14:33 how come the front end lifts without the help of traction/ladder bars?
Awesome video! Your car 60 foots just as fast as my nova with about 3 times the tire as your camaro lol crazy how good you guys can launch on such little tire
Thanks! We learn a lot just from trial and error, mostly error lol but that's what helps us get better!
That bolt together torque converter, set up to give a soft hit but then not be slushy down track is money well spent to make this kind of combo work. It hits soft enough that he doesn't run traction bars, just real good mono leaf springs. Tunable shocks, to see what the car wants.
Very cool, glad Grandpa painted it, makes it twice as nice.
Wow, absolutely enjoyed this tutorial 👏. Perfect sleeper
Very very very nice car...and a lot of thought put into it as well. I'm going to have to follow this more closely.
We got an 8 sec toyota supra on stock wheels and tires. Its called a contolled launch and gradually increasing hp as speed increases. You start with low hp on launch and end up with top hp by the end of the track.
Can’t go wrong with a Supra! Sounds like it runs good! We can’t run a power adder in the class. If we could I couldn’t even imagine the times we would run on 6 inch wide tires!
Flat unbelievable! Super deal. I like U're perspective regarding the car, w/.it so pristine & a family piece, 👍👍 be safe 🦊
I wish you were local to me...Id love to try some exhaust ideas. I cannot imagine an off the shelf xpipe is a perfect match
Great video, could you explain more about how the vacuum motor is benefitting the setup and helping free up some power? Also could you talk about the timing setup and kind of timing maps are being used? Thanks!
What size tire and what gear ratio in the rear end??? That has a lot to do with mph. I am very curious to know that. Awesome build and very sharp car. You have something to be very proud about sir
The wore down rear tire comes out to be right around 25 inches tall, and it has a 4.10 in it.
How many passes can you get on a new set of wide ovals? Great video
I’ve had this set on the car for a year. I don’t do crazy burnouts with them. Just enough to get some heat.
I was wondering the same thing.
If you'll work on the hood alignment, this car will pickup 6 or 8 tenths. (Driver's side is high and the passenger's side is low.) That might even be the reason she was lurching to the right on every launch. With the hood straightened up you can start to tweak your anti-roll-bar and find those couple tenths and maybe even 8 or 10 more mph ... Who knows? Anyways, point it somewhere and stomp the pedal. Good luck this season!
That was an eye-opener! Thanks for sharing! BTW, was really surprised to see a 12-bolt...and it didn't even have an aftermarket cover with main cap supports, etc.!
Thanks for watching! The aftermarket cover would kind of go against the "Stock Look"
The 12 bolt is fine. It doesn’t leave the line violently is the answer.
@@dodgeguyz Because it's an automatic. Like to see it with a Jerico in it.
I'm a MOPAR guy, but that car is impressive! Great content, no way would I chop it either....lol
Did you install subframe connectors? Also you mentioned not being sure about the Caltracs split leaf. What other options are there? Old school superstockers used the slider-mount single leaf spring with traction bars.
I dumped my turn downs on street and run pipes to rear now. No power loss and no exhaust fume asphyxiation
Here is a trick you may nit know.Your column shifter,instead of pulling it in,then shifting it up,just push it,kind of hard,forward and up,just as it starts to slide up it should click right into 2nd,same for 3rd.i hope I explained this well enough.
Thanks for the video, good job, if the Pro Mod guys come over with the big bucks it will ruin the class, big money has always done that. Look forward to your next one.
Very informative video, thanks for sharing your tips. A beautiful Camaro! One tip l have that l used for my car to stop the rubber sticking to
the quarter panels was applying clear ‘removable’ vinyl for race day then remove it later.
Thanks for the tip! That rubber has never been cleaned since about 2001, I never plan on cleaning it off!
I do the same, I refer to it as a Badge of Courage
Just spray Pam cooking oil on the quarter panel at the beginning of the day and days end it wipes right off I did this inside the wheels when I worked for Bud Moore, when the car came in the pit u had no brake dust blind you when the air hit the wheel just a little tip ,might help I don't know
Won't let the rubber stick
Use car wax
The reverse valve body was a great idea
9.5, 9.6 keep doing what you're doing.
Beautiful car. I'm certain many have said what you are doing is impossible.... And this video has probably won some arguments. "Man no way you can go into the 9's on stock tires" - proven wrong.
Hey, can u tell me how to or where to have the stock exhaust manifolds ported or fixed
I have the same conundrum with my 79 Z-28! I'd really like to go out and do some small tire no prep with it but it's far too heavy! But it's a beautiful car and don't want to cut it up and make it lighter, it's the same as yours, never been in a wreck, never any panels replaced, trunk looks like the day it rolled off the assembly line! Looking at an S10 to make into a race truck but damn I hate to go that route! I like vehicle's to look tough as well as be fast, and an S10 or fox body doesn't look tough at all!!! Now not wanting to let out any secrets about your engine,,,, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say 720 at the tire's, the biggest secret there would be 560 cubic inch!!! Cuz really not that hard to get that kinda power out of 560ci! When you have people such as turbo john making around 1300hp out of a 364ci small block, sure that's with a turbo but still. My son has a little 383 with some china Pro-Maxx head's (200cc) decent cam and intake and with a 200 shot of nitrous makes 580 to the tire's! I think what really makes your car a rare bird is that collum shifter! I get why you wouldn't change that, but I myself wouldn't be able to not change that deal! But it does make that care very rare I'd think! Only other Camaro I've ever seen with a collum shifter was a 74. Have fun in 2022 with it! Hopefully we'll all be able to race this year! Never know the way things are going with this BS administration!!!
"Cuz really not that hard to get that kinda power out of 560ci"! Without EFI, N/A, with manifolds, and basically a full exhaust...720 whp is pretty stout.
Love the car and content so I subscribed-appreciate the information that you revealed & respect what you didn’t 👍🏼
Thanks for the sub!
WHAT EXHAUST MANIFOLDS ARE YOU GUYS USING ? THANKS FOR YOUR TIME IN ADVANCE.
Great video very informative some of things I have used in the past with performance improvements.
Didn't give the stall on the converter or the gear in the rear? Sweet car... Great times! Good Luck!
Converter flashes different depending on how hard I launch it. 4.10 rear gear.
great video! really appreciate you sharing your hard earned knowledge. I honestly expected more tricks in that car.. pretty awesome that it is pretty original. mopar guys are not going to like this video 😂
Yeah it’s shocking how basic it is. It really exceeded my expectations for the year. I’m very happy with it! I’m guessing the mopar guys have a pen and paper taking notes when watching this!
I,m a Mopar guy and i love it ..
@@MP-pz9oe I was gonna say the same thing. I'd love to do the same type of build on a 340 Duster or other Chrysler product
@@poopy.butthole Those r my favorites : 340 Dart , Duster , Demon
I'm a big Mopar guy and I loved it.
Thank you, thank you, I always love it when F.A.S.T. comes to MIR or what we call the "creek". The air is always good and records are set (usually by Dave Dudek's hemi) then reset again the next year. I did not see subframe connectors under your car. I know the existing roll cage helps but do you think that a set of subframe connectors would also help? Good luck catching your dad's ets and mph. Please keep giving us insight on your car. Think about this, if you had this car back in the early 70's you would take everyone's money including Sox and Martin, Dick Landy, the Grump, and others including the silver bullet (who was sponsored by the factory engineers at dodge). They were only running in the tens back in the day. I love your car, keep getting faster.
I don’t think the car leaves the line hard enough to need subframe connectors. The roll cage does help.
Put some old school z28 pinched chambered mufflers on it put some on my 98 ls1 Trans am and it sounded so. Different than any ls around me until my buddy got the gmmg setup
Thank you so much, really enjoy watching. Boiler-up
Great video. I really like the story behind the car, especially how you preserved a nice car and did something cool with it. The FAST drags are one of the most interesting classes out there and I like hearing how you guys are running so fast.
Thanks for watching!
We ran NMCA Top Stock and those Muscle Car Nationals and shootout events back in the 90's with Dad's 71 Monte Carlo SS 454 that started out as an NHRA stocker. Ran low 11's with mufflers which was fast for the time but it's really cool to see some of that scene and Pure Stock evolve into FAST and man 9.50's?! That's just awesome. Love some of these tricks too. It would be a deep 8's car with drag radials and some other things if they were allowed. Subscribed.
Thanks for following us! Next season should be good we plan to push the envelope further and possibly an 8 second pass in FAST...
@@HorsepowerDepot gonna try to check out one of the the Martin events while I'm home in Muskegon this year.
This car is a work of art. Absolutely perfect. 😍 my god
"Too nice to make into a race car" as he shows 9 second his race car.
Sorry just had to. :) I get your point. Very cool car!
Would the Holley unit be worth while on a 500hp/530lb ft, 463ci 68 Firebird that’s 95% street driven and occasionally taken to the track? It’s really hard to get a good launch without spinning even with drag radials. It would be interesting to see how you go about installing it with the carburetor. Thanks
Shoot me an email, info@hpdepot.com
@@HorsepowerDepot I would also like to utilize a holley on my carb motor. Any info or help for install/usage would be geat. Thanks. Love the channel and especially the vehicles.
Fantastic upload. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching!
I love your grandpa too! Sweet car
Good video. Good info. Very interesting. Thanks Would like for you to get in to just how different items work. (Custom stuff).
subbed based on two facts ur in my state from the north part like my self and you happen to own one of my favorite cars bad ass ride man
Thanks for the sub!
First time to your channel. Nice content 👌🏻. New subscriber
Thanks for the sub!
Great video, thank you for the info. Just curious can you give us a little info about the rear end? Not asking for gear ratio just curious how you get a 12 bolt to hold that kind of power. I'm building a 79 Camaro and have been out of hot rodding for 30+ years, having a hard time deciding which direction to go with the rear end setup. thanks!
I'm no expert, but if I had to guess it has to do with not hitting it with a ton of power on the low end (hence the focus on timing retard) and the fact that there's not a ton of grip from the skinny tires. Power + grip breaks rear ends and puts lots of stress on the rest of the drivetrain, too.
Bru... I used to run 9's all day on skinny tires and even lifted the front wheels past half track once I slapped on that Greyhound bus blower to the aircooled helicopter motor in my Tucker I drove in high school in the 90's
Can you tell us the gear ratio on the 12 Bolt? And what RPM are you at, at the 1320??? Liked-Subscribed 💪
Since you guys started to allow some of the aftermarket parts it got me to thinking and it's in regards to the tires. Now if I remember right in an article Dudek wrote it was all about preserving original parts. Great. So why not require a tread depth for the rear tires? Throw a new wrench in the works for the class.... I know someone who has seen one of your mopar racers beat his head against the wall more than once trying to make big power with factory exhaust manifolds... Nice car!
A tire tread rule was a thing for a few races about 8 or so years ago, The racers hated it, the fans wanted to see faster passes, and the organizers got tired of checking tires after every pass. That rule got thrown away pretty quick. A copy of the FAST class runs out east, they check tire tread, they also lost most of their racers who have come to race in FAST, tire tread rule being one of many reasons they left that series.
@@HorsepowerDepot So much respect for what you guys do. It has to be just about the craziest class racing there is.... It's not cheap- just look at what you have in your arsenal alone. What would be interesting is if they would create a Day 2 class but that would probably be a stretch to police it. Keep up the work- one of you is headed into the 8's....
Super sweet ride! Can you run the Z/28 front spoiler? Wondering if it would help with aeros.
It had one years ago, it actually got broke winching the car onto a trailer. They look much better with a front spoiler. Id like to find out one day if it helps aeros or hurts them.
Guessing a huge solid roller drag cam and 13:1 compression
Dude! She’s badass! How much faster does she need to be?! lol. I got mad respect for anybody running 9s on motor in itself, let alone on 235 hard compound tires and mostly factory parts
Thank You! How much faster does it need to be? Well the class record is a 9.38 sooo it needs to go at least a 9.37 lol!
Algorithm worked. Great vidja and subscribed. Awesome stuff 👏
thank you for this video you have answer a lot of questions
See that weight transfer got that camaro squatting going down the track
Lots of fun, and thanks for the insight. Love the car!
Thanks for sharing..very interesting stuff..fast beautiful 69 camaro..love the channel
Thanks!
Thanks for sharing. Nice & clean car.
congrat's on the build and fast car! it would've made it easier to see the undercarriage if you had supplied adequate lighting when you filmed, btw.
How much does it weight?I have a 78 Camaro with a big block and cage full interior it weighs 3,800 with no driver
Nice car good job on building like the stock look but halls.
Very nice car. Any tips on eliminating wheel hop with stock leafs and no Caltracs? Thank you!
Honestly, the car has never wheel hopped. It’s had split monos and landrum multi leaf springs on it. It hasn’t wheel hopped on either springs. Currently running the landrums.
Thanks for the reply, I literally just found your channel by searching for leaf spring setups on stock appearing drag cars. I’d like to eliminate wheel hop without using traction aids. Looks like I’ll be watching your videos for a while, lots of great content. 🍻
Great video and car thanks for sharing information
Just found your channel.AWESOME CONTENT!! Love the Camaro
Appreciate it!!
I can only imagine what the guy in the other lane, with the new COPO, said as he saw that old Camaro go by.
Were you at Beaver springs dragway in pa? We run a gasser class and I’ve seen the FAST guys there and thats the way to go. Always wanted to race my 68 chevelle in that class
We have not been, But the FAST series has a lot of racers out from the east side of the country.