Inside the Episode - S2, Ep 6 | House of the Dragon | HBO
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Showrunner Ryan Condal, director Andrij Parekh, and more reflect on Aemond’s (Ewan Mitchell) newfound power, the rising tensions amongst the people of King’s Landing, and the changing dynamics between Mysaria (Sonoya Mizuno) and Rhaenyra (Emma D’Arcy). Watch House of the Dragon S2 Sundays at 9PM on #StreamonMax.
Why is no one talking about the scene between Alicent & Ser Gwayne? It was a lovely moment amidst the usual brutality.
Yes I agree. And these moments are what makes this show is so engaging. No party is truly good and evil
My favorite scene in the episode
Indeed! Gwayne deserves much more attention yet no one talks about him.
Loved, loved that scene so much. Such as sweet bonding scene. And I love Gwayne as a character. His PTSD was all over his face. Gone is the pretty, nonchalant attitude. But I do think it is wrong to wait with Daerons intrduction until season 3. I think he should have shown up by know. I was so certain they would show him in season 2.
@HennesIX you are absolutely right! The way you can see Gwayne's fear and trauma in his eyes as he heads out to battle again is great acting skill on Freddie Fox's part. He portrays all of Gwayne's emotions flawlessly.
Shout out to seasmoke for being the first dragon in the show to claim a rider🐉🖤.
Doesn't that kinda break an established rule?
@@vikipoyta How the Targaryens claim their dragons (or the dragons claim them) is a very wishy-washy affair that isn't very well documented. Of course the Targaryens themselves would think that they choose their dragon, but as you can also see from Rhaena failing in claiming a dragon and Daemon being rejected by Meleys, that's not the full story.. but if you mean Seasmoke claiming a new rider while Laenor is (as far as we can assume) is still alive, also, again, very wishy-washy in if/how the bond is broken, since, to our knowledge, no dragon rider has been absent like Laenor has unless dead (I think?)
@@Lenaundso I would feel that the only time they can truly say they claimed a dragon is by hatching it and imprinting with it early on, afterwards it's the dragon that decides if the person with said blood is worthy of them.
The whole sequence was: ""why are you running?!?! Why are you Running?!?!?"
@@Lenaundso When did Daemon try to clam Meleys and how did he survive if she refused? How did Rhaeina survive I wonder? Laenor was hinted to be dead.
The scene between Larys Clubfoot and Aegon was one the best scenes of this episode
It was also my favorite.
And completely true.
Yes but don't forget Larys betrayed his brother and father too 😅 so Aegon must be careful
@@rahmatmanurung8133 I mean, we did get a kind of motive explaining why he would do that to his father and brother.
I enjoyed seeing Larys in a vulnerable state and him relating to Aegon, both when it comes to parental neglect, and physical handicap.
literal tears...
It was so nice seeing paddy back with his amazing acting again.
RIP Ser Steffon Darklyn, poor man had to get a dragon so he may avenge the death of his father.
He swore to serve House Targaryen until his death, and he did. His Queen gave him an impossible charge, and he did not hesitate to embrace it.
He was too scared and fearful of Seasmoke to claim him.I think you should be more than brave to claim one.
@@МерлинФюсеинова a man is brave when he faces his fears. Remember Ned Stark’s words. Steffon was likely the bravest character shown to date in HOTD. His Queen gave him an impossible charge and he accepted with no hesitation, because he had sworn an oath and the Queen had placed her faith in him. It does the character an incredible disservice to call him “scared and fearful” when he was an incredible badass for trying alone, and almost succeeded.
@@rakdar1714 Umm there's no almost when you are claiming it.I suspect that Hugh will claim Vermithor with the rage and grief of a father who lost his daughter but Steffon wasn't suited for dragon rider.He don't have that spark for it.Being a solger don't have anything to do with claiming dragon.
@@МерлинФюсеинова sure. Steffon was not suited for the role. But that’s not my point.
Loved seeing a hale-and-healthy Viserys, even if it was in a dream...
I’m really impressed with how they are really going into every detail of the build up. It’s so important to understand the whole story, if it was all just wars and battles then people would say it’s too much like the later seasons of game of thrones. They are trying to show you the detail and once the story is over, I think we will be glad they took their time with telling it.
Bro Ewan Mitchell went ham this episode the dude is killing it as Aemond.
Robert Baratheon would love this kid, he's already killed 2 Targaryens
Hes disgusting
@@VDA19"Kinslayer" indeed
I remember first seeing the actor in The Last Kingdom. So I was glad he would be in HOTD back when I saw him in season 1.
i think I worked better when I had less screentime. The mysterious vibe is decreasing
Alicent talking to Gwayn about Daeron was a scene I absolutely loved.
Was nice , think poor Daeron should stay out of the war bless him and be a 16 year old playing his lute and attracting the ladies of Westeros XD.
Cannot wait to see the Blue Queen Tessarion
I jokingly called out “GAYYYY” at my Tv when Rhaenyra and Mysaria were together but when they started making out I was left SPEECHLESS frr 😅😅
They both knocked it out done perfectly
I hate this man, They have to involve g@y $hit everywhere. Can't we accept that are not so many g@ys in this world as frequent as they show in TV shows.
Didn't see that coming
Smash 💀💀
I was like awww rhaenyra needed a hug and then mysaria starts nipping at her neck and I was like oooooo
Rhaenyra starting a famine and then throwing food at the people that she is blockading and starving are the same the tactics used by house Tyrell.
Omg TRUE I remember that
Daemon has been tripping balls this season so far but I really liked him today. Openly admitted to himself about crazy dreams, asked Alys for help, his scene with Viserys and, my man's finally growing his hair!!! He'll have his long hair in full glory when he's back in action 😅. Loved him today
Counsel, not help 😂😂😂
That’s getting old
Poor Daemon. I hope there is a greater meaning to this arc.
Finally Daemon is doing something BOTH dreams and Riverlands
They should do BOTH, or making dreams meaningful in his mind/decisions (episode 2345) or making introductions about the Riverlands lords like the Blackwoods or more about the Tullys
S2E02 - "There's definitely some Royal Blood around here somewhere"
S2E06 - "There you are. What, you don't want this Smoke?"
Lmaooo this is golden
Rhaenyra's attraction towards women was known to be just as strong as her attraction towards men. The only thing that worries me now is Mysaria's intentions. Jace already noticed Rhaenyra and her were planning behind the council's back, as well as not telling him about a plan this big. I sense her son will find out and take matters into his own hands, considering the look he gave them on today's episode.
i hope so! i hope to see Jace have a bit more authority and 'oomf'. Mysaria is definitely making me uneasy! she's very suss i'm kinda shocked Rhaenyra went there
Yes, I suspect Mysaria's intentions
I will say that it was in the book in an "It is said" sense, but I have no inherent problem with those rumors being true. It's definitely hilarious when I find the occasional comment on how the kiss was disgusting when she's also married to her uncle. Just a sad little homophobe, these people are. (note that this is different from calling it unnecessary, I can see the case for that, but I legit found people calling it disgusting.)
Part of me believes that her loyalty is sincere but that could be tested in the future. I also feel this is because she believes to use Rhaenyra as a means of bettering the small folk's lives, rather than loyalty to Rhaenyra herself.
I was more expecting it with Laena. Like her, Daemon, & Laena relationship!
@@Nenernener123bruuh 😂🙈
I was absolutely mad when the Hightowers took Rhaenyra's crown from her. But seeing Aemond expelling Alicent from the council was definitely one of my favorite moments in this episode. She tries to reach his heart, but she has long ago ignored and neglected him.
Seasmoke: Addam of Hull! I choose YOU!
In Westeros the pokemon catches you
Seasmoke (to Addam): Why are you running?! Why are you running?!
@@alexandraguardian9840 Seasmoke (to Addam): SURPRISE muthafucka!
I thought I would not like Aemond became darker but turned out I still like Aemond. 👏 Ewan's acting performance is just great. Hopefully he will at least get nomination for Emmy and Golden Globe. 👏Tom too. Both of Green Siblings actors carried this season 2.
Ewan and Tom both just keep getting better! They seem like they have become good friends off-screen too which helps.
The sowing of the seeds is a pivotal moment in Fire and Blood, and I'm really impressed with how the show is handling it. I'm relieved they didn't transfer Jace's idea to another character, which has happened a lot this season.
Seems like they're spacing things out over multiple episodes and they also seem to be merging certain characters.
@@Regenmacher175yeah I’m not mad at the changes they’ve made so far. It makes it more cohesive and nuclear (for lack of a better word) when there aren’t tons of random things happening at once
I wish they had been doing the seeds throughout the season. This is late, if they just suddenly get claimed one after the other in the last two episodes.
After already the first season of sowing the seeds, a 2 year year wait, and reduced episodes, 5 slow episodes out of 6 is lame tbh
@@euanharrison7125 GoT s8: "this season is rushed, I hate it"
HotD s2: "this season is slow, I hate it"
Moral of the story.....
I mean… Mysaria was Daemon’s paramour. And Rhaenyra said she and Daemon are of each other and are basically the same person. She always came off a bit fruity when she was young as well, even in the Pilot script she was flirting with Alicent. So the kiss makes complete sense to me actually. I was a bit shocked that they actually put it in, but I kinda get it.
Also, does anyone else feel like Aemond is the only character keeping the lights on in this show at this point? My guy is so cutthroat and fun to watch, giving his own mother the boot is crazy!
I agree about Aemond carried season 2 alongside with Aegon. 👏Both actors Ewan and Tom did amazing job. Hopefully they both will get at least nominations for Emmy and Golden Globe.
Daemon has been tripping balls this season so far but I really liked him today. Openly admitted to himself about crazy dreams, asked Alys for help, his scene with Viserys and, my man's finally growing his hair!!! He'll have his long hair in full glory when he's back in action 😅. Loved him today
Nah Alicent had incredible scenes this wpisode as well as Daemon in his flashbacks. This episode was good on all fronts not just Aemond
same, I saw it coming
It's nothing that she might like girls too it's just she cheated on Daemon with that and no matter the fact that Daemon and Rhaenyra are now in difficult terms it doesn't give her right to cheat on him
Obsessed with Rhaenyra and Mysaria. They’ve built the relationship so good throw all the season, they get and support each other. Hope to see more of it.
Not a team green, but I really like Aemond's character. He's been carrying the show for a weeks now
more like Aegon did now it is Aemond but his character got destroyed too all writing is shit
@@queenxx1690aemond’s character was not destroyed, this what he was always meant to be. Stop crying
Agree. Aemond stole attention. Hopefully Ewan Mitchell will get nomination awards.
@@sofia-ou3uf well he was at least loyalty to his brother in show he is cartoon villain no allegiance
I appreciate that Aemond is a dynamic character. A single one of his council meetings results into more character and plot progression than all of Dragonstone meetings combined.
When i saw Rhaenyra and Mysaria hugging for too long i knew something more was going to happen
I was clueless until the very end and then I started screaming of excitement xd
Aemond is right about Alicent being part of the council. She was the first to defend the idea that a woman shouldn't rule.
Yep... She has no place in that room
She would have a place in the room. He did not kick her out because she is a woman, he did it because he knows she loves Rhaenyra, and that she's a fool for that
It's got nothing to do with this as he said in the first episode anyone who has compassion for the enemy is an idiot.he used to value her and would do anything for her up until this moment.if you paid attention it looks like Alicent is trying to destroy the Targaryen even her own children she works against them because they are Targaryen too 🎉
@@4264127 Everything you said was on point, but you lost me at the end. How exactly is Alicent "trying" to destroy the Targaryens ?
@@mauratlantean3002
She is a plant by the faith she was behind agon becoming the King at the same time she tells Rhynerya who is going to kill her children to go before anyone else sees her.how does that make any sense to you unless you know her real motive is
Aemond insultingly releasing Alicent his mother from small council duties was probably one of the best scenes of the entire episode.
3:42 I aboslutely love the performance of Matthew Needham who plays Larys. One tear acting school, with masters degree in one limp.
The dragonseeds storyline is soooo cool. I can't wait for it to unravel fully! Can't wait to see a battle with several of them battling out in the sky 🤩
Seems like it will play out over multiple episodes, which is totally fine imo.
Bro I kid you not I looked away while Rhaenyra and Mysaria were hugging only to look back to find them making out lmao
It soo forced 😂
@@sabgogo7393they have chemistry
@@alexissimpson5819 🤮🤮🤮🤮
Oh boohoo. Seriously immature idiots posting in these comment threads.
Ewan Mitchell fucking rocks, I really love his performance as Aemond and I always like what he says on podcasts/interviews.
Was great to see paddy back as viserys even if it was a daemon dream!
I think That Aemond should have listened to Sir Lary Strong advice when he said ‘the ppl are Hungry.. and their shortage of food..” (In Regards to Daemon I think Aemond Looks ups to him and respected him🤔🤔)
I would like to see uncle/nephew moment first or maybe kinda father/son or teacher/student moment before fighting to the death.
@@rahmatmanurung8133actually I always thought if they were not fighting each other to the death under different circumstances, they might’ve understood and found a kinship.
@@racheltan2555 Ikr. Their interaction will be fun to watch.
Loved the scene between Aemond and Alicent. He gets teary and the way he holds her hand before pulling her hand away. Either because he thinks she's manipulating him, last attempt to regain some control or because he just doesnt want to succumb to his emotions and to clear everything out of his path to prevail for his family. Mans got a job to do. Ewan Mitchell the actor that you are. ..
I'm glad to see Sonoya get an expanded role. 🙏
I'm glad she got rid of that silly accent from last season.
@@darj617Mysaria our Jamaican queen 😩
Larys and Aegon were the best secenes from this episode. The acting should be put on Oscars .
Holy shit Kieran Bew’s real accent is wild. I was so used to his Irish accent on Warrior, this is a trip 😂
I love how Daemon's visions show how HE saw/sees different encounters. We saw in one episode that he sees the crown as being too large for Rhaenyra's head. In all his visions, we see how he viewed those incidents.
In this episode he's having a breakthrough. Instead of seeing his brother's anger as it was demonstrated, he is seeing WHY his brother displayed such anger - he displayed that anger because of how hurt he was by Daemon's behavior. Daemon finally understands what is underneath his brother's banishment, how much he actually hurt his brother, who needed him at that time. This is a huge breakthrough for Daemon's character. His is "dying" in this place, in more ways than one.
I felt bad for Aegon, He was deceived by Alicent.
how so?
These "inside the episodes" are SO amazing. It is fascinating to see all the people and effort behind the scenes. Keep them coming!
Seasmoke is like "Nah buddy, I don't like snow bunnies"
He wants to be his father since he ain't got no one
Storywise, I can't understand why they made Mysaria and Rhaenyra hook up. It was an incredible vunerable moment for Mysaria and both characters are interesing in their own ways. Why do they feel the need to suddenly implement a love-relationship (or at least a physical relationship) for these characters? Aemond's character development is incredible tho! Ewan Mitchell and Tom Glenn-Carney as Aegon are soo good this season!
@@EmileVinesh LOUDER!!
Perhaps because it was hinted at in the books, Mushroom alleged they had a thing. So you know, if it is going to be confirmed, a vulnerable moment between the two is probably where it will have come from.
@@nzmetalhead perhaps?? It was Emma D'arcy who wanted to makeout with Mysaria. The kiss was unscripted.
@@cateyedjendeukie4746 been seeing this claim a lot. Just wondering how u know it was D'arcy's idea to do this and not the show writers?
Because it shows Rhaenyra's loneliness after Daemon left, Rhaenys died and her family dropping like flies. She's a flawed character that is desperate for companionship or for female companionship that understands/validates her own experiences (that's how she comes off anyways. Don't know about book Rhaenyra). Also, you're supposed to question Mysaria's intentions.
say what you will about mysaria but this whole episode it's so obvious rhaenyra was being set up to be with her in a sense, her frustations and worries against daemon, the council and their reliance on him, the misogyny, mysaria's plan working better than anyone else's, her support of rhaenyras battle atire, and ofcourse that final scene, "you have me", that must've been the moment she knew...
exacly and this is also...what Rhae always does...I love her but she always has a tendency to look for comfort in someone else when she is abandoned, with Criston, Harwin and even Daemon
Adam and Alyn scenes are getting better with every episode
One thing, i dont get how Kings Landing smallfolk could buy Rhaenyra was aiding them with food, thinking about their well-being, when its literally HER fleet blockading the damn city, causing it to starve.
Bad writing
Exactly how MAGA following Trump.
This is how politics is played greens should have been the one providing food but now blacks are doing this they are now their gods it does not matter to them who is blocking or who has more dragons it is the food and their daily needs if rhaneyra is providing them then she is doing her duty for them
It was basically the same play Olenna and the Tyrells were making back in GoT, and everyone fell in love with Margaery.
Bad writing
As a book reader, I love where this show is going and how much more realistic the stakes feel with each episode. This episode was amazing!
The deviation is awful and purposefully progressivist. They are trying to turn Rhaenyra into a modern feminist icon
@@unknownunknown1041could you please concisely elaborate on what are the biggest differences of Rhaenyra’s portrayal in the show vs in the book (without spoilers)?
@@thetrenderman2155 Rhaenyra is not a lesbian girl boss in the book. She’s also much less likeable than they are trying to portray her in the show. Shes not a peacekeeper. The scene where she went to kings landing to negotiate with Alicent never took place in the book. She’s also much less physically attractive, as she’s been hitting the bottle hard after her most recent childbirth. At this point she’s pretty much a grumpy fat woman with a good heart for her children and vassals, but she’s not a player and she doesn’t have issues being a woman. Her gender crisis is once again a concept created by the showrunners. She is indeed a strong woman but a feminine one without sword-wielding dreams
@@unknownunknown1041 thanks, very helpful. was there a romance between Mysaria and Rhaenyra tho, in the book?
@@unknownunknown1041it was rumoured by Mushroom that she and Mysaria had a thing. And some of Mushroom’s other points were included in the show too.
She only became cruel after Jace died. Before that she was considered a relatively well liked ruler compared to the Greens
WHY IS THERE NO FOOD BEING BROUGHT TO KINGS LANDING?!? It is not an island, the sea blockade blocks one route, but you can bring wagons into it by land from the reach, or the stormlands or crown lands? It makes 0 sense that the city is starving.
They dont care. Aemond cares knly about the war being fought and even says “so?” When asked about how they will eat. He doesnt care to find a solution because they dont matter to him.
That's what I've been wondering. Maybe it's explained in the book? Or is the starving smallfolk plotline even in the book?
Aemond had the gates locked in 2x5.
The reach is in a civil war
House Tyrell has no interest in a Hightower win
Transporting food in that quantity over land is ridiculous
They closed the gates. Didn't you pay attention last episode?
It's funny, during the smallfolk scene I was thinking that Alicent would need The Hound to save her. Then I realized that it's also in S2-EP06 that he saves Sansa!
'Aemond is driven by cold rationality' lmao the delusions. Aemond is purely driven by emotions. Arrogance from owning the largest dragon, thirst for revenge on the people who belittled him his entire life, dying to prove himself that he's not a weak little boy, turning on his brother because he got mocked in the brothel. How the fuck can you be this out of touch with a character ur writing?
bahahah who are you to say? lol Ryan wrote these characters and know them better than you fake fan
@@bonbonvegabonbut whatever ryan wrote isn't translated on screen , so it doesn't really matter. matt smith said daemon wasn't power hungry in s1 but look at s2. ik he's an actor and not a writer but he still puts in effort to his character, too
@@bonbonvegabon Rayan is idiot and he makes ff of characters he do not get Wattpad lever of writing
I agree with you tbh. But I dont really care about Aemond so it doesnt bother me. I do wish the writers were better though. For example, Rhaenyra going into Kings Landing alone is what really bothered me.
@@luca.mayflowers i remember this! i recall that interview with matt saying that. and i did get that vibe. but now he wants to be called His Grace. huh?
BOOK SPOILER BELOW
the scene with rhaenyra and mysaria was not unnecessary, in fact it just makes everything more complex and interesting, the dialogue between them shows what rhaenyra always wanted to be, someone who dominates, who is careless and dangerous, everything that the daemon is, for me this scene makes it clear that mysaria used this to her advantage, the music and the atmosphere leave this somewhat implied, which makes mysaria's betrayal even more unpredictable, both for the viewer and for rhaenyra herself, which leaves mysaria with a huge advantage in this game, remember, this is game of thrones, full of betrayals, this whole scene and dialogue were one of the highlights of the series and it develops and gives more layers for all the characters involved in it, especially rhaenyra
so we guess mysaria is use rhaenyra to reach her own need. i know it, rhaenyra should never make mysaria live in dragonstone
Thank you for taking your time with this story and not just rushing to the key plot points.
I endorse mysaria to sit on rhaenyra' council what an absolute brilliant Pr / political strategist the small folk has always been overlooked in this series nice to see someone cared about them for a change rhaenyra sending them food was major power move the green can't fight on two fronts like they're are losing power but, youre only as strong as the people let you be.
Unfortunately i don't think that Mysaria is strong like Varys to refuse power- she comes as very ambitious and greedy for acknowledgement.
Aemond being obsessed with Daemon is funny. Daemon hasn't giving him one thought
He literally did last episode with Alys.
He literally hallucinated him in harrenhal. Also if the gods' eye had been a swordfight instead of a dragonfight Aemond would easily beat him. He was trained by cole who beat daemon 3 times
@@DecimusPrime-xg4zi darling a hallucination isn't real.
And I love your grand delusion. Aemond hasn't been in a real sword fight, all the training in the world will never give you real war experience and as far as the latter goes he's even a rookie on flying around on dragon and we owe his success to the size of his dragon without that Aemond is NOTHING.
Don't deceive yourself
@@tylerjackson1806 how many times has Daemon mentioned Aemond?
@@Kevynmorgan wtf are you talking about? Aemond was trained by criston cole who whooped daemon 3 times. I could take on a professional soldier too if I was trained by Jon jones from childhood
I was so happy when I saw Paddy on screen again, even for a few minutes he still gave us amazing acting skills and scenes.
I'm really enjoying the Haunted Harrenhall DLC
Nobody enjoys that . Sorry
@@jontargaryen841 "boooo. character development for a major character. boooo. boring."
@@jontargaryen841 I do and that's all that matters
@@jontargaryen841 You ≠ everyone.
@@jontargaryen841agreed
I loved the scene with larys consulting aegon knowing he would be disabled going forward and all the hardship that it brings. All you have is your mind have to keep it strong when you can't be in battle too much milk of the poppy will not keep your head in the right place🥲💔.
I agree! My favourite scene from the episode. I'm looking forward to seeing new aegon scenes!
I love Damon storyline, but I think it would have been more impactfull if he had got a full episode all for himself. Like a "zuko alone" kind of episode
wtf no
The old man who lost his hand has got to b the forshadow of the shepherd who will lead the atk on the dragonpit.
Whiteworm: I was victim of incst, r**ed by my father and i cant have children.
Rhaenyra: LETS MAKE OUT.
Liked the episode but holy moly this was some peak GOT s8 bad writing..
Just YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND something, that doesn't mean it's bad writing.. Media literacy is gone. It makes sense with their emotions..
Just because YOU DIDN'T UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, THAT doesn't mean it's bad writing.. It makes sense with their emotions and experiences...
@@percyweasley9301 Oh, we understand. We understand unlike you, that the majority of people are heterosexual and will never be anything else. And that IT'S OKAY. But now the shoe's on the other foot, eh? You think there's something freakish about heteros who reproduce naturally. Go off.
It was a great episode and actually liked that so many important things happened everywhere around the Realm.
These are exactly the character dynamics we all loved in GoT. I don't know what we should want more from this show.
Daemon character arc with the flashbacks and facing the regrets he held all this time is so well done.
I love it ... I was scared that they wouldn't give depth to his character this season but luckily they're doing it very well
Yet people keep saying every werk theyre tired of him in Harrenhall like he isnt getting some of the best character work.
I see people grow bored of the visions, but I think it's far more interesting to show Daemon where he is powerless and lost so we can see him forced to change. His near mental breakdowns this episode I found exceptionally interesting, imo.
I like them too as character moments and also them giving times to magic of dreams in this world.
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba In this part of Fire and Blood he's not doing much other than staying at Harrenhal gathering an army. At least the show made that part interesting. I enjoy the visions and the addition of Alys Rivers is also fairly important.
This episode was better than the last, but overall I'm not enjoying season 2. The worst storyline is Daemon at Hotel Harrenhal.
My favorite scene included the characters I dislike the most; Larys and Aegon.
You should enjoy The gay scene atleast 😂
@@sabgogo7393 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮
@@blissinchains respect ↗️↗️↗️
That seems more like a 'you' problem. GOT had 3 big battle episodes over the first 6 seasons and each of those seasons had 10 episodes LOL. Seems more like your short attention span can't handle subtle character-focused storytelling.
@Regenmacher175 Season 2 has been quite boring compared to season 1 (besides ep 4)
We are not expecting Dragon fights in every episode, but at least make it engaging with solid conversations, we are yet to see Aemond & Helena having a conversation
how lazy are the writers?
No drama
Daemon Harrenhal's hallucinations started in episode 2, & bragging till episode 6, when we only 8 episodes left why they hell they dragging Daemon portions 😪
"what is it that you do here?" the realest question
Sorority between women doesn’t mean sex. Why introduce this scene showing Rhanerys with Mysaria making off, it isn’t necessary
exactlyyyyyyyyyy
They have to hit their lgbt quota for their blackrock investments.
omg shut up gay woman exist
I dont hnderstand. Sometimes people are around each other enough and if they have proclivities, coupled with the obvious attempts at seduction from Mysaria, then stuff like this happens. I think youre more bothered by the facf that it was gay
💔THESE TWO WOMEN FINDING each other, finding true love, this scene is beautiful.. Using your logic no gay scenes are necessary. It shows Rhaenyra is different from others, she's not ashamed of being loved by another women, specially when she's alone and stressed and need someone...
A couple scenes from this episode could be some of the best of the season. That final kissing scene, however... felt like it came outta nowhere
Came outta nowhere? S1 Rhaenyra showed plenty of hints that she swings both ways if you had only noticed. Mysaria has been giving hints all S2
@nzmetalhead what hints?
to whom Rhaenrya attracted to ?
They legit were making eyes at each other for a few episodes now. If you’re blind to the ways of women, just say that 😂
@@hemanthkapavarapu8380 Are you blind also? She was flirty with Alicent when they were younger. The only men she had interest in were Cristan Cole and Daemon, despite numerous suitors. She is very clearly bisexual.
@@nzmetalheadno there are no hints at all, stop making shit up. A hug or holding hands are not hints
This episode was a wake-up call to Alicent about just how insignificant her role is in all of this. She's been manipulated by everyone around her her whole life into thinking she's somehow in control.
how well do u like your steak?
me: aegon
Olivia's comment about Marie Antoinette saying "let them eat cake" was quite interesting. It’s worth noting that this phrase was actually propaganda used by the revolutionaries and has no basis in fact.
However, what I find frustrating about Rhaenyra's story this season is her foolish mistakes and indecisiveness. For instance, she allowed Darklyn to attempt to tame a dragon, leading to his death, despite his importance to her council. She needs to start acting like a queen in an actual war. When the Starks arrive, we might finally see some real leadership and a genuine effort to win the war.
The actors and the writers continue to have a really good relationship. Their technical work is so good and I like that not only do they throw themselves into the role but they understand both story and help to shape it. Having not seen the episode yet, Rhaenyra falling in love with Mysaria whilst navigating their relationship / dynamic. It was so good hearing from both Emma and Sonoya on how they put that together, incredible actresses and phenomenal work these last two series. Olivia’s work just gets better and better playing different roles, from Queen to dismissed woman. The actor who plays Aemond is incredible.
Aemond delving into the ruthless villain having that pissed speech of his about being summoned was funny
"aemond's downfall is that he doesn't understand the power of the smallfolk"
😂😂😂
Holy shit you're completly admitting to rewriting the peasants revolt to make Rhanerya look misunderstood.
Of course they are going to do that. They are not gonna make Rhaenyra another Daenerys.
which large dragon is at the Vale? Sheepstealer?
Wild dragon, probably Cannibal or Silverwing
@@RainZ3dit0r
1) Sheepstealer is a wild dragon
2) Silverwing is NOT a wild dragon
3) there were roasted, dead sheep skeletons all around Rhaena.
I refuse to believe you aren’t bright enough to put all those things together.
Who knows which dragon it was we won't see it until the end of season 3 at this terrible pacing.
@@Dolorous_Edd_ alright pipe down einstein. Technically you aren’t right either. They show makes what the show writes. Clearly you’ve read the books but as you can see Captian Kirk, the show partly align with the books. I admit silverwing was a dumb shout lmao
@@RainZ3dit0r yea seriously, but Sheepstealer isn't a bad guess, there is also Grey Ghost and Cannibal, but I doubt we'll see Cannibal ever
was my favorite episode this season!
I tip my hat to Steffon, he's got nuts, the problem was he cowards away. Dogs and a thug know when you're scared. What was he thinking when he was stepping up to an instrument of mass destruction? By the way, the armor was a dumbass itea.
bahahah Rhaenys was wearing armour when she died on melyes
@@bonbonvegabon i think he meant it's harder to drop and roll to put the fire out (and it cooks you alive from within)
Mysaria's character is very interesting to me, I wanna know more about her.
I've never heard Sonoya Mizuno (Mysaria) talk out of character before! She has a very nice voice either way.
i think she’s had accent lessons in the mean time, because in season 1 she could barely pronounce the words in english, and now she has a much improved accent.
I’m ngl rhaenyra making a move right after mysaria shares her sexual trauma is really creepy and predatory. I’m kind of appalled nobody else sees something wrong with this especially cause Rhaenyra is her boss lol
I wouldn't call that hug "making a move" if anything it was mysaria that initiated it when she started macking on her neck
Rhaenyra and Mysaria going for each other’s Daemon sloppy seconds
not everything is about Daemon, just like Rhaenyra said last ep
I just LOVE Phia! What a great actress for Halaena ❤
Seems this episode got a very low rating, but I personally liked it alot more than ep 3 and 5, alot more things happened in this episode I feel and we finally got to see dragons again. I do think this episode is a step in the rigth direction. Abit shame that so many are giving this episode in particular the hate for fillers though, I feel previous episode was ALOT more boring and filler. I think we all excepted House of the Dragon so have a faster pacing considering there is only one book.
That Rhaenyra and Mysaria scene was so unnecessary🥴.
They checking the marks . Each season needs a sex scene .dragon fight . Gay scene....
Hot though
Looks like they're supplanting the Nettles storyline in favor of merging it into Rhaena's. Incredibly disappointing.
I mean, maybe. We’ll just have to wait and see. I love nettles but maybe the change will still make good tv
Great episode. The kiss was outta nowhere though. 😂
The kiss wasnt even in the book
I'll be honest. The only interesting thing this season. Is Aemond. Without him... I honestly wouldn't bother to watch
Cool, noone's forcing you to watch.
NO one cares what you fake fans think or feel
Same here.. the writing and logic sometimes just isn't there. The way they handled b & c. Making team black saints specifically rhaenera etc. Made me watch GoT again for good writing. Lastly I just give up and now I'm only watching for how cool aemond is.
When Larys talks to Aegon about how his father thought a family member had cursed him at his birth, was he talking about Alys Rivers?
This is a good show but it is more and more not like fire and blood, its puzzling how many new elements are introduced while book details are cut, how long until its something else entirely? And when that moment arrives why did we start with in the first place?
Writers want to implement their own ideas and motives to the show. They could less about the source material. I’m not surprised but disappointed. At least we got to see Viserys again. The show is not the same without him.
Nothing is better than making book lovers cry
The book never was a reliable source anyways, it's written by an in-universe scholar who probably would have been employed by the winning side anyways. So the amount of trustworthy content in there is likely to be dubious at best.
@@Pinoyslayer8888without the book lovers originally growing this brand you wouldn’t have a show to watch. They aren’t wrong for wanting it adapted properly.
@@studentt6064The book is a history book using multiple sources. The book isn't someone making everything up.
Fiction readers don't understand how history is written. We get our history from multiple sources. A history book contains more than one source. I do read history and GRRM reads history. This is why he wrote Fire and Blood that way.
The sources for The Dance of the Dragons come from Mushroom who spent a lot of time in Rhaenyra's court, High Septon Eustace and Grand Maester Munkun who used the writings of Grand Master Orwyle as his source and wrote about the war. These are the main sources Archmaester Gyldayn is working off and he includes them in the book. He sometimes gives his opinion of which he believes might be most true.
So the book is not meant to be made up. Otherwise GRRM wouihave written it to begin with. It's just that it's written by someone who didn't live during that time and has to rely on other sources.
The reasons we know history of our own world is from written accounts by other people. Sometimes these accounts can contradict each other. When reading a history book, the sources are usually numbered at the back to let the reader know where the author got the information from.
However the changes in the show aren't all down to the interpretation of sources. Velaryons being black is just a show change, Maelor, Elmo and Kermit being cut is a show decision. Rhaenys killing people in the dragon pit and almost killing the greens is not even mentioned in the book as it never happened. Otherwise High Septon Eustace would've said something as he is one of the sources in the book.
Alicent is older than Rhaenyra in the books, the show aged her down. Christen Cole never beat Joffrey Lonmouth to death at a feast. He killed him in a tourney. Laenor was killed and witnesses saw him. In the show he survives as they didn't want to kill off another gay character. Daemon doesn't murder his wife and he was fighting in the stepstones during the time she died.
The changes I mentioned have nothing to do with interpretations of F&B. Which is why I am not mentioning those decisions.
What the author is biased to is men, he talks highly of men in the book but this is accurate for medieval historians as they didn't speak as highly about women.
Like Edward II had multiple stories of how he died and a claim he had survived and was allowed to live in exile. This is the confusion fantasy readers are having of history. Fire and Blood is written like a history book and is meant to be read that way.
As real life history has a lot of stuff we still aren't sure about and we are relying on different accounts.
As if you have read Roman history then someone like Cassius Dio might be one of the sources used.
I have seen people saying Fire and Blood is useless and if that was the case then there would be no point in the book. GRRM didn't write it for no reason.
Writers have no idea what to do with Rhaenyra and Alicent.
Is a moment in the where the smallfolk rise up gonna happen sooner than I think?
they should rise up against queen of bstrds
Two episodes to go. I am so damn hyped. I've been delaying it, but now I will most likely read the book before Season 3.
Daemon loved his brother!
Aemond does not
Honestly this episode was so bad, I became Team Green😂. Aemond and Jace are the only good characters. The writers need to read our comments and take notes: stick to the books. Use GOT as a lesson.
Rhaneyra's character is weakened. Why can't Mysaria just follow her out of her belief....why does the Queen always have a play to gain followers? In the books people just bent the knee because they believed in her!
So glad the writers arent listening to low IQ fake fans.
people just bending the knee because they believe is boring. There's always a reason people bend the knee and favor one person over another.
What I don't get is where did Rhaenyra pull all that food from? King's Landing has the rest of the Kingdom to supply it on land. Dragonstone is a barren island in the middle of nowhere, where is Rhaenyra getting food to feed King's Landing?
There was absolutely no reason for Rhaenyra to get sexual with her chief of staff. Just because you're starting to trust someone who is helping you doesn't mean you jump into bed with them, and just because you're having marital problems with a man and have never been anything other than heterosexual does not mean you suddenly have a thing for women. It was a major artistic gaffe for the writers to go and wokeify the show with that little turn and it doesn't fit the characters at all.
It’s just fan service. I mean at least show them in a hot sweaty and steamy sizer if you’re gonna throw that sht in.
Youre being ridiculous and sound like a Karen lmfao. “SeXuAl WiTh HeR ChIeF oF sTaFf” like shes working a corporate position lmao. She is a human being and she has been strategically seduced by Mysaria and you’re acting like shes a manager breaking corporate rules. Get a grip
Get a grip karen. Someone being gay doesnt mean its wokeness. Gay people actually exist. And she is bejng seduced by Mysaria. Youre treating her like she should be some perfect manager or skmething.
They are checking the marks .
Each season needs a gay scene
@@TheRealHerbaSchmurba Oh, shut up. Watch Into the Panderverse. :')
many people will insist otherwise but what the show has done with Aegon and Alicent is much more exciting than what happens in F&B
For the first time, I really feel bad for Aegon. Despite his failures and behaviors, he doesn't deserve to lost his child and get burned by his own brother. His scene with Larys was epic and a peak of writing.
He had many bastard children forced to fight each other in ep 9 season 1. I understand the sympathy though because the actor did great job.
@@rahmatmanurung8133 he doesn't know about his bastard children...
@@rahmatmanurung8133 his bastards do not fight, brain box all we saw was boy sitting on side assuming it was his maybe it was not .
What failures does he have ?
@@queenxx1690 Placing inexperienced and sycophantic men in his Royal Guard, dismissing Otto as Hand, making impulsive decisions based on revenge.
Disappointing, they made Mysaria and Rhaenyra hook up. It was a touching, vulnerable moment for them. I was starting to like the instant bond of friendship they're forming. Why can't they make characters vulnerable and form friendships without getting sexual? Why can't we see a genuine bond of pure friendship in this show for once?
I’m Team Black but my heart truly continues to break for Aegon. He’s constantly being manipulated and emotionally hurt by those around him, including his family. He lost his son, which he barely mourned for, he lost his dragon that he clearly had a strong bond with and now is swallowing the fact that his brother hates him and wants him dead. 🥲💔
I get having empathy, but he's a rapist who gleefully watched his own bastards fight to death in underground fighting pits. He's only upset his legacy has been disturbed. If he was truly mourning he wouldn't have gone to the whore house 48 hrs later and spent 8 min laughing at a named aemond in front of his posse.
The show wants to paint aegon more gray this season, but his established crimes in se1 are too distracting
@@africanodyssey4805 I understand the sympathy too but people just forget he had his flaws and did mistakes too. The actors Tom and Ewan did great job and carried season 2 for me.
All that just sounded like karma to me tbqfh.
synfyre is still alive if that makes it any better , he will live
I'm all for the mutual respect and the unlikely alliance between Rhaenyra and Mysaria. Their hug after the latter's traumatic story made sense as a gesture of sympathy. But the kiss in that context seemed utterly cringeworthy. Instead of turning them into a power couple that threatens the patriarchy, as suggested by Emma, it added Rhaenyra to the long list of people who would use Mysaria for sex. I suppose it served as a reminder that Rhaenyra's greatest weakness is that she tends to lose her head to her lust - similarly to Viserys with Alicent, Alicent with Cristen, Cristen with Rhaenyra and Alicent, etc., - and this may come back to bite her again. I think that's what Ryan was hinting at.
yes, I also think her lust but also her need for companionship and choice of partners are one of her flaws. I don't mind it. It makes her more human. By the way, Mysaria was the one who initiated so either she's into it as well or she has ulterior motives or both. Just seemed like they were lonely and trauma bonding which CAN lead to more than a hug. The kiss was hardly the most disturbing thing to come out of this show.
@@quin1455 Fair point, I think your interpretation is closer to what the writers intended. But it was not the kiss itself that I found unsettling so much as the incestuous rape backstory and the Daemon shared connection that preceded it. Then again, Daemon's scenes with young Rhaenyra in the brothel were much more disturbing, followed by the Daemon/Rhaenyra beach hook up immediately after Laena's funeral and Ser Simon Strong's gruesome death. And let's not forget Viserys with the 15-year-old Alicent. Ugh, what is with GoT/HotD and all the incest/rape/paedophilia?! I know they're trying to pass it off as 'grounded in reality' because it was loosely inspired by historical events, but that claim flies out the window on the wings of dragons...
Why would Larys want to become hand??? He usually works from the shadows so going so public would make people more keen on whats going on with him
Otto’s death is defo getting changed in the show, he’s up to something.
Who wrote the whole
Messy-aria and Rhaenyra angle. Like the disappointment!!! Why, like why!!! 😂 That’s not what the fans want.
Speak for yourself. The Rhaenyra/Alicent shippers might be fine with it.
READ. THE FUCKING. BOOK.
Mushroom hinted at it, quit complaining.
@@nzmetalhead Nah, it was cringe
@@Regenmacher175 I mean other people feel that way too so I am speaking for others 🤷♀️
@@cs5099 Other people don't know what good storytelling is. Why would I want to associate myself with them LOL?
Anyone knows where is the green jacket Ryan Condal is using, from?