13 Ways Control Gameplay Connects To Alan Wake - CONTROL + ALAN WAKE EASTER EGGS!
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- Опубликовано: 30 авг 2019
- Love video game Easter Eggs? Love video game theories? Well, Ian Higton is here to tell you about 13 ways Control gameplay connects to the world of Alan Wake! In this video you'll hear about 13 Control Easter Eggs and the Control Easter Egg locations and how those Alan Wake Easter Eggs link to the world of Control. Is Alan Wake a part of the Control universe? Is Remedy giving us hints about a possible Alan Wake 2 or a Control x Alan Wake crossover? Find out in this spoiler filled game theory video about Control PS4 gameplay!
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Point 10: Thomas Zane wrote himself out of existence. This is mentioned in Alan Wake. That would explain why the psychologist interviewing Jessie hadn't heard of him. No need for alternative dimensions needed here.
Was about to say this exact thing.
quite strange that he forgot that. that is one of the biggest things you learn in the game. the revelations about sarah's father truly surprised me. I remember wondering about him when playing alan wake, thinking that maybe he was a bit important somehow. like part of a group of old people in the town who knew about the lake and the dark entity.
@@UberNoodle Aparently one of the Old God's of Asgard songs in Alan Wake American Nightmare also forshadows Control years before either it or Quantam break existed. A revesed message in the song says something along the lines of "It will happen again in a town called ordinary"
Exactly. I've played Alan Wake quite recently and Alan's manager also said he could not find anything related to Zane, non of his work. So Zane is known to nobody during the events of the Alan Wake game, and so it all makes sense now.
@@aliciafraser1835 No way :D That's so cool! Thanks for sharing
I just beat Control and I'm suddenly really eager to finally play Alan Wake
Ya gotta do it, main story + the two dlcs and the spin-off
Alan Wake is Remedy's magnus opus IMO
SAAAAAME the first time I played Alan Wake, my mind was fuckin blown....and now Nostalgia hits hard. Btw the two dlcs are free anyway..
How do I get it? Wasn’t Alan wake Xbox only?
@@good-gpt2-chatbotwhat dlcs are free?..
Also, Ahti says that the song "Take Control" is a gift from his friends, and while you approach his "summer cabin" he laughs about swedish brothers not being able to handle his sauna, so he seems to know Tor and Odin. Furthermore, his other favorite song "Sankarin Tango" (translates to Hero's Tango, lyrics by Sam Lake) begins with a reference to Alan Wake: "I once mistook an ocean for a lake". Its lyrics also seem to reference typical video game respawn mechanics among other things.
There's good reason to think that Ahti is precisely that, the Finnish ocean God Ahti.
1. Everyone calls Jesse 'Director', except Ahti. For him, Jesse is just an assistant.
2. He can access any part of the Old House he wants without the need for the vest. Even the members of the Board are susceptible to being corrupted by the Hiss, but not Ahti.
3. His carts with the radio can be found in places that are being 'haunted' by the Hiss. Marking places where the Janitor needs Jesses assistance.
4. Ahti deals with the Hiss and other such things with mundane indifference, like clearing it is just a mundane chore for a janitor.
If all of this is true, it would also mean that Tor and Odin are also precisely that. They are Tor and Odin, the Viking Gods.
Their lack of power can be explained with a sort of Hawthorne effect where they draw their power from people's beliefs and traditions.
That would make these guys literally very Old Gods and would thus be in need of assistants.
@@Caldera01 its also good to point out that apparently the initial idea for the old gods was for them to have powers.
It was first planned that it would be Tor's actual lightning that turns on the concert lightings in Alan Wake.
@@yellowbat79 I always figured it was. Like it was hinted at, and you could accept that they were more than meets the eye, or just a simple stroke of luck... in a night with no storm. ;)
It's painfully obvious Alan Wake, Quantum Break, and Control all take place in the exact same world. The only 'maybe' factor would be Max Payne because they went and sold the game to R*. Control proves it by describing the events of Alan Wake as an event that was thoroughly investigated. In Quantum Break you can find books written by Alan Wake in various locations. They are all in the exact same world.
I highly suspect that now that Remedy has full control (no pun intended) of Alan Wake rights that we finally see a sequel, and during that game the bureau plays a large role in the story.
As a side note, I kept thinking we were going to see some mention that the Oceanview Motel and Casino was located in Night Springs, Arizona. As a nod to American Nightmare.
Man i believe they are going to make the sequel, especially Sam Lake desperately want to make Alan Wake 2 since 2010
Alan Wake, definitely. I don't think QB is directly referenced at all, doesn't that IP belong to Microsoft?
In the alan wake universe, max payne was written by alan wake (renamed to alex casey), so max payne is just fiction in the overall remedy universe at the moment it seems.
The new DLC previews for control feature one called AWE and has an almost perfect recreation of the Alan Wake cover as it's cover (also lets not forget that before Control was a thing AWE used to stand in the fandom as Alan Wake event) so i think we'll be seeing more of our writer down the line
This aged well
i hope that these aren't just easter eggs but actual world building for future games.
Seeing as how one of the games yet to release DLCs is called AWE and the picture used to announce it is literally a recreation of the Alan Wake cover art my guess is that Alan will soon be a character you can meet in Control.
@@fostertalks2327 that's awesome!
Blake Foster altered world event or Alan wake expansion? Can't wait
You predicted right!
Damn Alan wake was amazing
Alan is the pinnacle of Remedy's games. Control was decent but imo yet another step backwards. Jess the protagonist is uninteresting and spends almost all of the game reflecting on Captain Obvious-level ideas. Of course the little touches in the game are amazing as per usual.. the collectibles, live videos etc. I sound a bit dour although I did enjoy the game and recommend it, especially to those who haven't played Alan Wake or any of the Max Payne games. But yea Lord Solar, Alan is just such an amazing game I imagine it is just hard to live up to it.
James Houseman I’ve just finished replaying Alan Wake, following the mentions in Control (this time on PC) and, although I really enjoyed it, I’d forgotten just how much of it is fighting the exact same enemies in the same dark woods. The combat also felt much clunkier than I’d recalled. Still a really good game, but I think my memory had been kind to it.
I’d have definitely placed it above Control before replaying it, now I think I might swap the two around...
@@TheColemancreek I absolutely agree to Terry Barcelona
- you think so because Alan was long time ago and now its like an old friend to you, you love him because of the time of your life when it was released. I’ve also just finished replaying Alan Wake and it was a nightmare to me. I’ve played only because of a plot, combat and locations are very repeating and annoying. And moving is terrible, gave me a headache
@@user-gl7zi3ko8o I replayed Alan Wake a few weeks before Control was released. It was fresh in my memory. I still stand with my post. Control is good but other than the Director and Casper Darling the characters were unmemorable. Even the combat was just too easy on the hardest setting and was repetitive -- throw a box, throw a chair, throw a box, end fight. Alan is a game released in 2010 and although is a bit clunky I even enjoyed the combat more as it had a bit of survival horror element that new gamers don't like because they are used to 1 shotting enemies like it Fortnite or CoD and don't like ammo preservation.
I mean, these are not "easter eggs" these are accurate and precise link to Alan Wake, that is basically part of the "Remedyverse"
Let's not ignore the fact that Dylan references that he met "a dark man called Mr. Door" in the same dream who can shift between realities. Hello there Martin Hatch.
Remedy games are like MCU except instead of silly costumes the (super)heroes have cool jackets.
My favourite easter egg....another name change due to legal reasons.
Maybe a future Remedy game could be a prequel. Featuring Thomas Zane, the sheriff, and The Old Gods of Asgard. Would be cool to see.
I do like it when studios link their different games together in these ways. It means & achieves absolutely nothing (unless the studio can crowdsource the funds they need & has retained its own IP), but it's sort of cosy.
Remedy bought the rights to Alan wake back from Microsoft
Flying Alan wake.... Give it to me now...
Also that song in the ashtray maze is amazing lol
Brad Reed best moment of the year in gaming for me
How bout at one time trench from Control mentions he lost his wife and daughter...like max payne...
Because it's the same voice actor. Nice little nod haha.
It's explained eventually that his daughter died as a result of an altered item he (perhaps mistakenly) brought home from work, and his wife left him after that. Not an exact match for Max but he still lost his family as a side effect of being too invested in his job.
Ian reminds me so much of classic game journalists like Charlie brooker and all those who were inspired by that era. No matter how much I love Aoife, Jonny, Zoe or Chris - Ian’s dad jokes will always reign supreme in my eyes. Never leave us Eurogamer Dad
Hello! You missed one: if you translate the Finnish tango playing on several occasions in Control it practically tells the story of Alan Wake. "I mistook the ocean for a lake" etc 😉. It also refers to AW being a video game. "Death only gives a moment's peace - the Hero is soon called back."
There is also a whiteboard in upper Central Research that details the special qualities of shoeboxes, like the one Thomas Zane kept his books in the Bird Leg Cabin ;)
There's another Easter Egg which you almost certainly didn't notice. An idle comment of Langston (security director of the Panioctigon) has him mentioning the lockdown is going to have him miss a movie... the premiere of "Sudden Stop", and he hates missing an Alex Casey film.
The Sudden Stop was Alan's last book before he got writer's block (and, as you know, an In Joke to Max Payne) and the reason he was in Bright Falls in the first place.
In the meantime, sounds like Barry's been busy.
Yeah I caught that too, made me fuckin laugh.
Guys... Control's last DLC's logo is literally a stencil titled "AWE" with the bottom half being Jesse floating in the Astral Plane, and the top half being Alan Wake's cover... And I mean, "AWE"? "Altered World Events", sure... But also... "Alan Wake's Escape?"
DON'T TEASE ME LIKE THIS.
@@BlackSquadPro one can only hope 😂😂😂
Wish granted
@@JKJOO IS IT OUT????
@@BlackSquadPro not yet but the trailer comfirmed it
Yeah Zane erased himself from existence before the events of Alan Wake to undo the damage he did to reality while tampering with the dark place. The fact Jessie knew about him means she’s immune to reality tampering or she found his work hidden in shoebox.
But didn't Barry learn about Thomas Zane while gathering info for Allen? So that means other people also remember him. Or do only the town people remember him?
well if you noticed in alan wake his books and stuff still exist but beside that any record of his existence was gone which means if you enjoyed his work you remember but if you didnt care then he was forgotten or like you said immune or Resistance to realty tampering .
About Tomas Zane, there is a theory that Alan created/rewrited Tomas by himself, because he needed someone as helper who knows everything and can be Alan's guide, so Alan even created backstory for him about his dead wife and Dark Presence, and by Alans hand it's become reality too, so there some time loop exist. Plus more, theory says that Tomas created
ewrited Alan too, creating story about Clicker to give Alan weapon against Dark Presence (page about Clicker was written by Zane and his voice narrating it)
The first 13 seconds of this video were comedy gold! You have spilt the beans on the connections between Alan Wake and Control, but it's a good thing you didn't spill them on your head. Otherwise, great work! =-D
Just beat Control and I loved it. Got real SCP vibes.
It was actually heavily inspired by that
Great video Ian! Really enjoyed the comparison and analysis - can't wait to pick up this game!
About nr2: it's much easier to get through glass panes by just dashing right through.
Ahti is surely the janitor from max payne 2 that sings the Song "Late Goodbye" from poets of the fall.
I was thinking the same thing :D it IS HIM! :D
Ha ha 😄
I think it's unlikely that Quantum Break is in the same UNIVERSE as the others, on account of how we still don't know if time ending is inevitable (the situation we stopped was an earlier incarnation of the event). However, the Oceanview Motel and Casino is stated to be implicit of a multiverse, so Quantum Break could be in one of the OTHER connected worlds. Connected, but not the same one.
Thoughts?
Nice video :)
I am wondering if Ahti is linked in some way with the events from Alan wake now.
Jesse and Dylan didn't get their power from Polaris, polaris only showed them how to use it. There's a few clues. Dylan says " she didn't give me any powers, all the powers are my own powers "
The old gods tell Jesse this as well in the song " the might i see has always been deep within me. I can feel my inborn power, i call the shots when it's all finally clear to see".
A lot of the time Jesse thinks she's talking to Polaris, it's really her ESP sensing things. The way Danny Torrance does in the shining. He thinks it's an imaginary friend Tony.
On another note, Jesse sees Polaris as a bright star. The way Alan sees Thomas Zane. Although wearing a diving suit.
Thanks for the video.
Okay I love Alan wake, but after replaying. I’m gonna buy Control. Wasn’t a fan of Quantum Break but Control has me intrigued after playing Alan Wake again. Very immersive game, and was one of my favorites at the time.
I can’t wait for the Alan Wake DLC I’ve been looking forward to this for a long time I stopped playing control but started playing it again while at home all I can say is I really need a ending and IT BETTER BE A HAPPY ONE DAMMIT
Allen Wake 2 please!
damn. i love Alan Wake. I wish my PC could run control.
After completing the game and noticing that the FBC “Oldest House” building reminds me of the building that Max Payne was standing on the top of makes me wonder if Max could’ve been a paranatural candidate as well with his superhuman reflexes and bullet time abilities. Even if it has no ties to the current universe of Control or Alan Wake or Quantum Break, I think it would really cool lol
Max Payne is a fictional character created by Alan Wake in Alan Wales universe
@@cosseybomb Whoa! I’m mindblown! Inception levels of mindblown!
"I just played Control (3x) and went back to play Alan Wake (X360). Now catching up. Now I'm blown away that "Control" maybe a Story by Alan Wake...!!!"
The Bureau is the collective unconscious of the gamers especially those who played the previous Remedy Games : Max Payne 1&2 and Alan Wake , This is why Trench monologues are the same as Max Payne monologues , this is why all the characters seems so archetypal because we already know them from various game references : The scientist , the CIA agent , the Soldier , the bureaucrat ...
The Janitor represents Sam Lake and his mission is to bring order to our collective unconscious this is why he referred to the God of Asgard as his friends because Sam Lake and Marko Saaresto the lead vocalist of the Poets of the fall are friends and works together since 2001 and their art have a commun message .
The board represents literally the board of directors "Remedy" and its only role is to incite you and give you a purpose to play the game this is why it breaks the fourth wall and only the Director "the player" could understand it .
So after all this we could say that Alan Wake and Jesse faden don't only share a same fictional universe but literally share our collective consciousness and freeing Alan from the Dark presence is not just a question of plot but a literal change in our collective unconscious and that's already started with Jesse faden who is in control and growing brighter as the true Polaris !
Very small chance that this is a reference but in the first "special" in Alan Wake you have to follow a signal through a cell phone. There's a dead letter correspondence where somebody calling 911 claims to be moving through the cellphone line
There is going to be an Alan Wake-themed DLC
Remedy has already announced their plans for dlc. Curiously the image they used for the last dlc "AWE" has what looks like the Alan Wake box art image.
Thanks for the spoiler heads up. I'll watch your video after playing control.
Great video. I am hoping for an Alan Wake port to PS4 and Alan Wake 2.
i am expecting to see alan wake 2 on all platforms (maybe not switch), and a remaster of alan wake with their current tech would be a cool way to bring it over to ps4, maybe as a collecter's/deluxe edition bonus.
This man predicted the future
Practicing your telekinesis on the same clip art asset Yahtzee uses no less.
RIP ian bumhole.._ on a side not really looking foward to playing yhis game, with music from an 80s heavy metal " old gods of Asgard" in it , makes me want to play Control even more.
Control and Wake that will be a cool combination.
Would love a co-op campaign where Jesse and Alan team up and be the ultimate paranormal-buster team :D
well there is Alan Wake references in Quantum Brake too but I am not sure about the Max Payne games or the other games unless you count the music from Poets of the fall
Also the entire AWE dlc featured Dr. Hartman and even wake himself narrating your actions through the hot line
Came here after the AWE dlc trailer for control dropped 🎉🎉
I loved Alan Wake, so the connections in Control (a great game in itself) was fantastic.
16:00 dont forget that Mr.Door is also a reference to Martin Hatch
That must be a damn good cup of coffee.
A lan W ak E - coincidence?
Probably, yes. His name is a reference to being "Awake". Like how Jack Joyce is influenced by "choice" and Jesse Faden "fades in" and out of reality through her powers.
Remedy has planned an expansion for Control called AWE, and the logo looks an awful lot like Alan Wake's logo. ;) Also, in Quantum Break, they've made the same (A)lan (W)ak(E) connection.
I think it’s a pun with the term Altered World Event but it’s okay to dream about Alan Wake
And Remedy is still teasing us with Alan Wake 2... lovey
Just recently Remedy managed to get the full rights to Alan Wake from Microsoft. I fully expect a sequel as their next game.
@@retropulse03 I hope so. Because man it will turn 10 years next year. And i still got hooked with the story.
Okay so this isn't in correlation to Alan wake, but, Dylan talks about a dream where he and jesse are the same person if you listen to the hiss incantation it makes it sound like the slide projector opened a rift and let Dylan in . That's why I think the hiss is actually there bc of the two
There are secret messages in Controls maze song,"Take Control" There seems to be a hidden hotel cord in the game that leads to an Alan Wake secret.
@Maat da burb I dont oniw where it is. I found the first clue in the game which is a tree in the foundation, I think the second could be in the atlas chamber.
These are the reversed clips. The first is about the motel light cord, the second has numbers that spell ASGARD IS. The third says. "In their drunken fever state, seeing double ______ the pyramid in the stolen file, becomes a spruce tree. " drive.google.com/file/d/1yy0mnZhabdsTeXm-XGfIds6eSLISHa-j/view?usp=drivesdk
Not really hidden as much as implied one is there
also in the most elevators across the map you when you go inside you can see PAINE written which might be a hint at Max Payne since Remedy did make that game
Mr Door who talk to Dylan is might be Martin Hatch from Quantum Break
The actor that does the voice for Alan Wake, Matthew Poretta, is the same guy that does Dr. Darling in Control.
You missed one or may be 2 easter eggs and nods to Alan Wake:
1-. There's a board in one of the offices in the Research (investigation) level where a "shoebox" is referenced at as an important altered item and that it has elements that later became the base development for the shelters throughout the entire game. Well that shoebox is where the clicker is stored and also on the board is written Bright Falls.
2-. This one is a nod to Alan Wake. There's a room on that same level where you can hear a 5 minutes song from Poets of The Fall, the RL rock band that performed the "Gods of Valhalla's" songs from Alan Wake.
Do you know specifically where the whiteboard is I'd like to see it
Much as I'd want this to be a world building exercise by 'Remedy', these "Easter eggs" are just that and more a fans service for the previous game. It would of been easier to link this game to 'Quantum Break' if that's the way they were going but I don't think so.
Do you have any idea what the jukebox is in control I’m still trying to figure that out
Probably related to future DLC.
It works now. You'll find a few tokens near Arish. Ask him what they're for.
just patiently waiting for AWE 2 dlc
For anyone who reads this, this is how the whole Thomas Zane thing works out. Thomas went to bright falls on a vacation and stayed on a island in cauldron Lake with his wife Barbra Jagger. They loved it so much they stayed and Zane was an avid scuba diver, so much so the area was named divers isle. One day his wife drowned supposedly draged by the dark presence and Thomas overwrought with grief tried to write her back into existence but the dark presence possessed her and made Zane write poems as his editor to make it stronger. Zane figured it out and decided to write himself and the darkness out of existence (of course this didn't work) but makes a failsafe. He let a woman by the name of Cynthia Weaver keep memories of him and entrusted her with a shoebox with a manuscript page detailing Alan and the clicker and how he would defeat the darkness. Then after the some odd years latter Alan visits their on vacation and the dark presence sets him up to stay on bird foot island. The dark presence waits till dark and makes Alan's wife Alice fall into the water and she is too draged down by the dark presence. The dark presence makes Alan write the events of the story telling him it can bring back his wife but he figures out she's deceiving him and he writes Thomas Zane back into existence as a guide and a light presence. Giving himself guns, ammo, and other objects to fight the taken the dark controls. Then the events happen and Alan finds the clicker and fulfills the prophecy. Of course if I remember right a the darkness possesses an FBI agent by the name of Nightingale and a local waitress replaced Cynthia Weaver after the story ends.
I don't know if it counts as an easter egg but Matthew Porretta who plays Dr Casper Darling is the voice actor of Alan Wake
Starting to wonder if the Lifeboat protocol from Quantum break operates on the same principle as Zane's Shoebox. Relics from a cancelled / stuttered out reality.
With unreal 5 I hope now they can put a bit more effort on the map 😂
yes, we have a crossover, announced two days ago
Need to update this with the DLC that's focused on Alan Wake and the Darkness
4:51 I always just use evade to burst through windows. Much less finicky.
so if it was the MCU, Control is about S.H.E.I.L.D. and Alan Wake is about the Sokovia incident. kinda
I just hope we get an Alan wake 2 sometime in the next few years
you got your wish.
What about Quantum Break? Alan Wake appeared in there as well. Is Quantum Break in the same world as Control?
It is well know Alan Wake, Quantum Break and Control occupy the same universe. The question fans have, is AWE hinting at a new Alan Wake game.
Wouldn't that be sweet if all three were set in the same universe
Im trying to figure out why every clock on the wall in Control is set at 3:45. 😕
Because 1:23 was yesterday?
Im not sure, but i know what the 665 is lol
Play the Alan Wake AWE expansion for control!!!
What about AWE dle? :-D
So are we getting Allan Wake on PS?
Isn't Max Payne and quantum break connected to Control and Alan Wake
Quantum Break yes. Max Payne? Technically no because Rockstar Games owns the IP for that franchise despite Remedy creating it in the first place
I just foud out this game is related and in the same universe as Alan Wake and that he will return in a DLC, Im buying this game right now i dont even know about the gameplay or plot of this game
Remaster of Alan Wake on new Xbox please
So is it official that we call it Wake Universe?
Dag. You fucking genius.
Maybe Alan needs Jesse to help him escape the dark place
I think he escaped into Alice's film, Where it's always morning
I know people have played the game already, But really?? A spoiler in the first frame?
Ummmm...Alan Wake is all over Control's latest update...With more to come after that from the looks of it...
When you realized you missed one 12:43
*when did **_SESSLER_** begin using a brit accent?? and where's **_MORGAN??_*
Video aged well.
Who is here after watching official announcement of AWE: Alan Wake Expansion of Control?
Who is here after playing Alan Wake 2
This game was so annoying but it was a masterpiece
There are many connections. Being a good game is not one of them unfortunately.
You think Control isn't a good game? Did you play it?
Control is a good game
Brian Franco I found it to be sketchy, pretentious, and repetitive. Just one man's opinion.
Well everyone's entitled to an opinion I guess. No one said they had to be popular ones lol
@@divinitymode9364 I feel like it was a good premise with a mediocre storyline. The whole of the FBC is EXCELLENT, but the problem is that the Hiss... aren't a very good antagonist, and aren't all that complex. Even Dylan is more a victim than a villain at the end of the day.