The deception many of us have been growing up in...
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- Опубликовано: 4 май 2024
- When I woke up early this morning, this text came to me:
"The deception many of us have been growing up in...
Faith without obedience
Baptism without freedom
Holy Spirit without tongues
Discipleship without making disciples
Praying for the sick without healings
Talking about demons without deliverance"
I shared it on Facebook and have now made this video where I want to share more.
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Torben addresses these questions:
- Is speaking in tongues for everyone?
- Does the tongue language needs to be an real existing language?
- Does there need to be someone to interpret when speaking in tongues in church?
• Q&A: About speaking in...
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I am a Jewish believer in Jesus. Brother you are speaking the truth
I had a time in my life where I believed my self to be a good and tollerant person, because I as a christian person, did not hit people in the head with the Bible, and condem them for being gay, but I learned that I was creating a cottely God to please the world, God is not the one that need to change but I am the one that need to change by the renewable of my mind as the Bible teach
As a newly saved baptist teenager, I had the utterance of tongues; I could sense prayer in another language in my mind because my words were just not enough to express what I was feeling but did not know what it was so I never spoke it out. It was four years later that I got baptized in the Holy Spirit.
This video is so important for every member of the body of Christ. Let's do this together brothers and sisters. Let's grow up and be obedient to Jesus.
Right on Torben!
I have been seeking a church in the area of Melbourne, Florida, not only I but other disciples. I am reading their statements of faith, and I am shocked at how many are saying that baptism is an outward profession to man.
I am also experiencing many believers that are still living in sin yet teaching Bible studies and also teaching baptism is not important, that Jesus Christ is our savior alone and just confess before man and believe without repentance or baptism. They are just walking out this life still in sin and unchanged. Many of these people have seen deliverance and baptism at my home according to your teachings of the Bible, the truth and in Spirit and have seen radical changes in those people, yet they still stand in what their pastors are teaching at church and holding onto that deception. I think it may be due to they are comfortable in their sin and are not ready to repent, and or are not being ministered to correctly and or taking the scripture out of context. Repent, that is another thing I’m not seeing on Chruch’s statement of faiths. And let me say this, so once was I. I once walked this life like this and now I am free! I am living a life with Jesus Christ that is truly amazing, I can never go back.
Keep going Torben, and keep posting teachings from the Bible as a Disciple of Jesus Christ, you are a freedom fighter hallelujah ☝🏼🕊❤️. Jesus said I’ve come to teach about the kingdom. It’s the reason I’ve come, I’ve come to set the captives free!
“And such were some of you. But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God.”
I Corinthians 6:11
Thank you Torban . What a blessing you have been to the church of this generation . Even your term in prison is an example to us as a complete life in Christ . I would love to fly down and visit you . Bless you brother !!!!!!
I can feel the anointing and the presence of the Lord when you speak
Yes. Teaching alone doesn't make disciples. I agree. Thank you Torben.
Thank you Torben for speaking the truth . “ You will know the truth and the truth will make you free . “
John 8:32 - Keep speaking the truth Torben - God bless you 🕊🙏
♥️🙏Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.”
2 Timothy 2:15 Do your best to present yourself to God as one approved, a worker who has no need to be ashamed, rightly handling the word of truth.♥️🙏Keep going!
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Just curious.
Do you know what the "word of truth" is?
@@danielbu2611 Yeah his name is JESUS ♥️🙏
@@Lovin_Jesus so we "rightly handle" Jesus?
@@danielbu2611 1 John 5:19-21
And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness. And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.
Yes Brother what you are speaking is absolutely the Truth!
Amen, oh lord give us boldness and help us put our actions where our mouth is. There have been seasons when I’ve been more bold then I am now and I can give all the excuses of why I’ve stopped stepping out praying for others for healing at any moment or just praying and listening more. But I’ve been asking the lord to change my heart and for boldness and though I still chicken out at times I’ve been practicing praying in the Spirit more and for anyone that stops me as I run errands to offer to pray a little more. The lord will see the baby steps we take and he will still be pleased we just need to keep taking those baby steps in faith to walk out our faith and he will give us more courage and joy as we do
Shalom from Thailand.
We need the man of God like you to teach and training us.
We are sick of religion teaching here in Thailand.
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This is really great teaching.
Faith and action are connected. Yes that’s good!
Thank you for that word! So vital and refreshing :) The spirit of religion -as Randy Kay very well explains- has to be moved out in order to be unafraid, to be free to walk in the Holy Spirit, and not only talk. Traditions are keeping people back , tusting the word of God is setting us free!
Sometimes we dont get healed b'cos theyre is a barrier. Unforgiveness? In my case I had pain in my leg, i forgave my abusive ex husband & I got healed, i didnt even need to ask for healing in that situation 🥰
No ! It is about angry Father and I am a sinner saved by grace forever nonsense. Healing is not about us being worthy ! Nore salvation or healing, or financial blessings are earned! It is all by grace! Of course it doesn't give you green light to sin
By the way, Jesus healed people with sin or those who were pagans.
I remember the Quote of William Booth. Founder of the Salvation Army.
There is a day coming when there wil be religion without repentance, a savation without Holy Gost, a heaven without hell.
🎉🎉 SUCH A GREAT BLESSING YOU HAVE GIVEN US TO TO HELP YOU ❤💕 MIGHTY LORD JESUS !!🎉
I am very grateful for - and interesting in this kind of teaching 😍It is like living water because so much of our life with Christ is unfruitful,and we gets disappointed and desperate,or fell in sleep 🥵🫣🇧🇻
Tack för att du talar klarspråk det är detta som är det viktigaste av allt det är enda sättet att förändra och visa vad Jesus menar med sin kyrka det sanna Israel .!❤
Thank you, for this teaching.
God bless you brother Torben!
This is a modern day letter from Paul to the church. Thanks for sharing Torben.
❤😊❤ amen and amen keep the faith and go on in victory❤
Thank you Torben, I needed to hear this. Yes, like you said, I *know* all these things but I haven't been obedient in them! We are what we do, we show that's what we believe, through our actions. I desperately need to get myself and family back to where we ought to be
I'm sorry u weren't healed at that time. I think Torben was encouraging our journeys towards this truth. God bless you dear saint
Very good! Thank you!
Brilliant! Listening to Torben always challenges me!
These signs shall follow them that believe. In My Name they shall...
1) cast out devils
2) speak with new tongues
3) take up serpents
4) if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them
5) lay hands on the sick and they shall recover.
(Mark 16:16-18)
Thank you, Torben, this is powerful teaching in itself
Praise God! Great message, Torben! Keep keeping on in the name of Jesus Christ.
This message was SO GOOD! Thank you for preaching and living it!
Bless you brother torben!
Yes, thankyou.
Thanks Torben 😊
It’s so true. I believe, help my unbelief!
Great teaching what we all know and beleive but in contrast to many mainstream ideas.
Amen and Amen Shalom
I hope to meet you one day, Torben. God bless you.🙏
thank you
Amen. We need to have obedient faith. We need to obey (action word) the gospel by repentance, baptism etc. THEN we must do works for the Kingdom of God by going out and sharing the gospel with others, teaching Gods word and helping them to grow in God, etc. To much is given much is required.
That's so true, Torben!!!! That's why I'm repulsed by people.... God bless you, dear brother in Christ !!!!!!
Acts 2:38 is the only way to repentance and remission on sins be removed in Jesus Name
In fact that is what I see from the Bible. My problem are all the people that come up and ask: what about people that have repented and are not baptized or are baptized as infants? I feel like there are so many problems because we weren’t obedient in the first place.
The verses that come to my mind are those: „Wake up, and strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have not found your works complete in the sight of my God. Remember, then, what you received and heard. Keep it, and repent. If you will not wake up, I will come like a thief, and you will not know at what hour I will come against you.“
Revelation 3:2-3 ESV
I wished for us as a body we would rebuild our church on the foundation that was laid by the Apostles, the real church fathers.
Praise The Lord! What about the thief on the cross? He was not baptized and had not received The Holy Ghost? He simply believed in Jesus and he was saved.
”For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.“
Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV
”Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;“
Acts 3:19 KJV
”For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.“
John 3:16 KJV
I do believe in Acts 2:38. For I have been baptized by water and fire (Holy Ghost). But we must not let the enemy deceive us. God bless all who read this message in Jesus Name.
Part of returning to the truth found in the bible is to keep the proper sabbath ( seventh day ) set apart and to connect the OT with the New as the New Covenant is the fulfillment , the culmination of the Old covenant.The seed of Christ are the children of Abraham and heirs according to the promise (Gal.3:28-29)
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„Likewise, my brothers, you also have died to the law through the body of Christ, so that you may belong to another, to him who has been raised from the dead, in order that we may bear fruit for God.“
Romans 7:4 ESV
„For Moses writes about the righteousness that is based on the law, that the person who does the commandments shall live by them. But the righteousness based on faith says, “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) “or ‘Who will descend into the abyss?’” (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). But what does it say? “The word is near you, in your mouth and in your heart” (that is, the word of faith that we proclaim); because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.“
Romans 10:5-9 ESV
„yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.“
Galatians 2:16 ESV
Keep it simple. That’s how I see it. And how it should be. Thank you Torben.
The only way to NOT be deceived ....is to ALWAYS always SPEAK (only) the TRUTH!
Because it's a spiritual law: you will reap whatever you sow.
And if you think that's easy in today's world, you are deceived already. It will cost you pretty much everything to always tell the truth. It's something you have to practice doing every day and at first you'll have to repent..alot!
But its the second part of worshipping Him in
🗣️🔥Spirit (Tongues)
and
🗣️📖Truth (always speak in agreement with the Scriptures and...never ever lie!)
I dont know anyone who preaches or believes faith without repentance.
Great message anyhow !
God bless you brother
Hi Torben! I really believe that you are a men of God! I already watched a lot of your videos. I have pray before for some people that got healed. I preach the gospel sometimes to people where the Holy Spirit guide me! Sometimes at my building, sometimes at the streets, gas stations, people houses. At work…I have seen so many miracles happen… God is faithful! God is good! I have a son that has migraines, his dad had also migraines when he was young. When he got older he got better. I keep praying for his healing, rebuking the migraine every time my son’s has it. I keep believing for his healing. It’s really hard for me to see him suffering from this disease. I don’t want to lose hope. I already fast and pray for his healing but didn’t happen! I think I will do another fasting. I just receiving now a txt from my neighbor downstairs that got healed of cancer, he was so sick but with prayers, fasting, encouraging him in the faith, God healed him! I am so happy for my brother in Christ! But Sometimes I wonder why I have the same faith towards my son and he doesn’t get healed. Sometimes times I wonder why I prayed for so many other people and they got healed and not my own son? But even so I will glorify my God!! He has been so good until here. I wish I can speak in tongues by I still not speaking! I had a dream one night that was so vivid! And I was speaking in tongues in my dreams in the presence of God! Even my body felt the presence of God! Such a wonderful feeling! One thing I Know, that when we obey the voice of the Holy Spirit , we always will see miracles! God bless you and your beautiful family!!
Beloved sister in faith, I started crying when reading this. Because of your strong faith, your love for people, your courage and honesty❤
You do not let your sons illness steal your faith, or make you bitter against God.
I honour you for that.
There have been times I have experienced breakthrough when praying in tounges over some people.
Let that encourage you to seek God to release this gift in you, give the holy spirit a voice.
He wants to, let all fear and insecurity go, I pray for you❤
Can you remember the words you spoke in the dream, if so, start using them, even one or two and just focus on Jesus not what is coming from your mouth and ketit flow, if you stammer at first that is OK, just keep going. God bless ❤
Oh, and how old is your son, maybe God expects him to start to believe for his healing.
Also. I find to sincerely give thanks for a healing brings it to fruition. ❤
Dekuji,Pán Ježiš at Vám žehná
Very good words!! Give this book to a child and let him read it and see how he reads it and understands. Beautiful example. One cannot enter the kingdom unless he comes as a child.TRUE faith. Simple faith.
God bless you brother.
Thank you for this video. Jesus is coming soon for a spotless Bride=Body of Christ. Be ready for what is coming!!! Obedience in your faith is important. Get with a local body of Christ and be the hands and feet through the body of Christ and serve God's people. Amen and Amen
Not everyone can love with full on love. Yes when we work with and love people know the word of god. Faith! I believe you can heal the sick . Maturity and look after yourself live walking with Jesus yes you can heal the sick. ❤
We should be casting out demons of people when they are in the process of conversion but unfortunately we have believers who need deliverance because they didn’t get delivered when converting.
Torban this whole segment made me cry. I desperately want to live this life everyday! Im in Australia, and I preach the gospel all the time, but I keep feeling that there is more and I’m not accessing it. I pray my family of 6 can come and visit you all one day so we can really learn and be launched in this because no one here lives like this!!
We do it more than most but we want to learn more!
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Yes, I have burden for 4yrs now, your correct! 💯
The deception we have all been growing up in….
-Faith without obedience
-Baptism without freedom
-Holy Spirit without tongues
-discipleship without making disciples
-praying for the sick without healing
-talking about deliverance without demons
Correction: talking about demons without deliverance
It is a truly amazing gift that you people have speaking in foreign languages to spread the message of the kingdom of God.
Tongues is not used to preach, it is used for prayer. 😊
1 Corinthians 14:2
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
@@angelabritten48 Acts 2: 6-12
God bless you, as you desire to fulfill the work of the Lord In preaching the good news of the kingdom. Acts 1:4 & 5 & 8, these words of Jesus tell us of the wonderful change that comes into our lives when we are filled with the Holy Spirit, for me I was so overwhelmed with peace and joy of the Lord and for the first time in my life I wanted to tell the world that Jesus loves them! That was 40 years ago, what an adventure it has been, their is no better place than being in Christ Jesus.
"And ye shall know THE TRUTH, and
THE TRUTH shall make you free."
John 8:32
Small groups, intimate relationships are needed.
I had a similar thought. I was in church watching a promotional video about the speakers who were going to be at the coming event: a Holy Spirit conference. The video showed clips of each speaker preaching in top gear. I thought: these are powerful speakers, but I want to see works of the Holy Spirit not just words. Bless you Torbin. I see God working among you.
I thoroughly enjoy your teaching the need to reform/return to biblical truth concerning many topics that have been distorted by the "church" throughout history. Something I don't see pointed out very often in your teachings is the need to return to administering water baptism as taught in the Bible. The apostles baptized in the name of Jesus. The RCC began the tradition of using the phrase Father, Son and Holy Ghost years afterward. The Apostle Paul rebaptized people that had not been baptized correctly. I would enjoy seeing you teach on that subject.
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According to the Gospel of Matthew (Matthew 7:23), Jesus Christ stated that there will be a day in which many people will not enter the kingdom of Heaven, but rather will be told by Jesus Christ to depart from Him.
The worrying thing is that these people who hear this statement from Jesus Christ are said to:
1. Be many (not a few).
2. Profess(ed) Jesus Christ as their Lord.
3. Have done ministry work on earth in Jesus Christ's name.
Yet, they are still told that the Lord Jesus did not know them and to depart from Him (not entering the kingdom of Heaven), being characterized as:
1. Not doers of God's will.
2. Doers of lawlessness.
I am going to post (below) an exposition I did of Matthew 7:21-26 so that the reader can understand how it is that these people fell into this state.
*Exposition Of Matthew 7:21-26*
// 21 Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
22 Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles? 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
24 Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house; yet it did not fall, because its foundation was on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain fell, the torrents raged, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell-and great was its collapse!” //
- Matthew 7
VERSE 21: in this verse the Lord makes the point that not everyone who confesses Him as Lord enters the kingdom of heaven, but only those who do the will of the Father will enter the kingdom of Heaven (and in the following verses we will find out what the will of the Father is, in context).
Notice the structure: not everyone who "says" X enters the kingdom (implying that there will be people who "say" X which do enter; yet saying X, by itself, is not sufficient to enter), but rather only he who "does" Y will enter the kingdom. This verse is contrasting "saying" X with "doing" Y. It is the "doers" and not, merely, the "say-ers" which enter the kingdom.
VERSES 22 & 23: many (not a few) people on judgment day will have (1) a confession that Jesus Christ is Lord and will have (2) done ministry work in His name, yet they will be told by the Lord Jesus: 'I never knew you; depart from me'; being characterized as workers of lawlessness.
VERSES 24 & 25: in this verse it states 'therefore', meaning it is a conclusion formed from the previous text. The word "therefore" is translated from the Greek word "οὖν". Strong's states: "οὖν a conjunction indicating that something follows from another necessarily". The conclusion to be formed from the previous text is that anyone who both (1) hears & (2) does the Lord’s words is a wise-man. This is in contrast to those of the previous verses who confessed Jesus as Lord and did ministry work in His name, yet they were characterized as being lawless (and we will see in verse 26, that these people of the previous verses heard the Lord’s words/commands but did not do them. That was their problem and why they were characterized as being 'lawless' in verse 23).
The Lord’s words, which are to be heard and obeyed, in context are the teachings from the Sermon-On-The-Mount. So doing the Lord’s words, from the Sermon-On-The-Mount, is related to doing the will of the Father found in verse 21. It is these doers of His words which are considered wise builders (who built their house upon a rock). These doers houses will stand the storm/judgment and they will enter the kingdom of Heaven, since they are contrasted to those who do not enter Heaven in verse 21.
Notice, the issue the Lord is stressing in these verses, concerning ones entrance into the kingdom of Heaven, is not concerning the doctrine one believes, but rather the way which one lives in light of His words/commands.
VERSES 26 & 27: in these verses the Lord teaches that anyone who merely hears His words but does not do them, they are foolish, because they built their house (their ministry/life) on sand (not the rock). Such a house can not stand against the storm/judgment.
These people who build on sand are those in verses 21-23 who have a profession that Jesus Christ is Lord and even did ministry work in His name, yet lived lawlessly and not according to Jesus Christ's law/words (which in direct context is the Sermon-On-The-Mount, but one could extrapolate it further to all the Lord’s teaching/words, including the teaching of the Apostles commissioned by the Lord).
Remember that this, according to our Lord, will be many people on judgment day (who professed Him as Lord and did ministry work in His name), not a few. That is very sobering.
***START OF SIDE NOTE***
I do not believe the Lord is teaching salvation is by works in these verses, but He is at least teaching that certain works of obedience are a necessary fruit/evidence of a saving faith and real salvation. For example, that is why in the previous verses (Matthew 7:16-20) the Lord talks about a tree and its fruit. The type of tree one is, is evidenced by their fruit/works.
Entering and remaining in the covenant is not (as covenant-nomism teaches):
1. one enters into the covenant via a repentant-faith and then...
2. one remains in the covenant via works.
Entering and remaining in the covenant is:
1. one enters into the covenant via a repentant-faith and then...
2. one remains in the covenant via the same way they entered the covenant (i.e. a repentant-faith), in which works are a necessary fruit/evidence that one has a repentant-faith (that is they now live for God through faith in Christ Jesus their lord: Acts 20:21, Acts 26:20, etc.) and has been regenerated (and is being led) with the indwelling Holy Spirit.
In the Gospel's the Lord mainly spoke about two things: doing the will of God and the kingdom of God. Christianity is about living to please God (which includes His will/kingdom) and living to bless others, rather than living for one's life in this world (as their main priority).
***END OF SIDE NOTE***
Luke's parallel of the Sermon-On-The-Mount teaches the same thing even more clearly (though Luke renders the sermon slightly differently). Luke states:
// 46“Why do you call me ‘Lord, Lord,’ and not do what I tell you? 47Everyone who comes to me and hears my words and does them, I will show you what he is like: 48he is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. And when a flood arose, the stream broke against that house and could not shake it, because it had been well built. 49But the one who hears and does not do them is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. When the stream broke against it, immediately it fell, and the ruin of that house was great.” //
- Luke 6
To use the term "lord" means one recognizes this person is in authority over them and thus they should obey them. The Lord Jesus is basically saying: "if you call me 'lord' (which means you recognize me as your authority) then why don't you obey what I tell you to do?" (which in context are the commands from the Sermon-On-The-Mount). One has to hear and do to be wise; hearing and not doing is the what the fool does.
Again the Sermon-On-The-Mount ends with a conclusion (in both Matthew's and Luke's rendering) of two types of people:
1. Foolish people: these are those who (A) profess Jesus as Lord (some even doing ministry work in His name, in Matthew's version), (B) hear the words/commands of Jesus and who (C) don't do/obey the words/commands of Jesus which they heard.
2. Wise people: these are those who (A) hear the words/commands of the Lord Jesus and (B) they do/obey the words/commands of the the Lord Jesus which they heard.
// As he said these things, a woman in the crowd raised her voice and said to him, “Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts at which you nursed!” But he said, “Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it!” //
- Luke 11:27-28
// If anyone teaches a different doctrine and does not agree with the sound words of our Lord Jesus Christ and the teaching that accords with godliness, he is puffed up with conceit and understands nothing... //
- 1 Timothy 6:3-4a
// But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, *DECEIVING* yourselves. //
- James 1:22
THE AREA OF DECEPTION
I want to now look at the issue of deception.
The Bible quite a few times warns believers not to be deceived. However, it never states something like: "do not be deceived by a doctrine which teaches 'a Christian can not live in a state of continual, unrepentant sin and still be saved'; because such a doctrine would be salvation by works and not by grace". Rather, the warnings to not be deceived are stating the exact opposite, it seems.
// For you may be sure of this, that everyone who is sexually immoral or impure, or who is covetous (that is, an idolater), has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one *DECEIVE* you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. //
- Ephesians 5:5-6
// You know that he appeared in order to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. No one who abides in him keeps on sinning; no one who keeps on sinning has either seen him or known him. Little children, let no one *DECEIVE* you. Whoever practices righteousness is righteous, as he is righteous. Whoever makes a practice of sinning is of the devil, for the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil. No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God’s seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. //
- 1 John 3:5-10
// Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be *DECEIVED*: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, or drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. //
- 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
// But be doers of the word, and not hearers only, *deceiving* yourselves. //
- James 1:22.
// Do not be *DECEIVED*: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. //
- Galatians 6:7-8 (living in the flesh ends in corruption which is stated in contrast to [and thus the negation of] the end being eternal life).
Revelation saye the saints will keep the commandments of God and the testimony of Jesus.
Christianity is not religion! Christianity about Love relationships with Father! Rules make you a slave of sin! God is not a book or ritual! God is a Person!
Bible does say So God so Loved that world that He brought the Book of Rules that people loved that rules!
Acts 10 - Cornelius
He, the first gentile convert, got God's attention by what he did....his works.
He prayed always and he gave to the poor.
These works initiated a response from God to send Peter to him and his household with the Gospel message. God filled them with the Holy Spirit while Peter preached. After this Peter commanded them to be water baptized.
Acts 2 Israelites get filled with Holy Spirit, Acts 10 Gentiles get filled with Holy Spirit showing God accepts all people not just the Israelites
@@stevemiller8952 ..... so are you agreeing with what I said or challenging it. If you are agreeing, great, if challenging it than you have not read the part in Acts 10 where the angel of God tells Cornelius that "your prayers and your alms have come up for a memorial before God". Acts 10:4
You see, this is the great thing that came out of my years of sickness, it gave me time and opportunity to *really* study his Word. And if or when I am healed, I have a love and compassion for the oppressed plus have learned his heart from studying his Word, that has come from my years in this wilderness.
And the Lord said to Moses, “Why do you cry to Me?
Tell the children of Israel to go forward."
Action/works are the EVIDENCE
this is not meant as a slight, but I came to one of your Kickstart in Calgary, Canada in 2015. I came with faith believing I would be healed. I asked you to pray for me. BUT never got healed. As a matter of fact got sicker. So I resolved in my heart that God's timing is not my timing, or HE wants me to endure it for some reason.
I feel sorry for you. That’s the reason I fear to step out and pray for people.
Friend “you” said you had faith to be healed but you put the reason you didn’t get healed on Torben’s prayer. Think about the “woman with the issue of blood”, she believed she would be healed when she touched the hem of Jesus garment. Friend evidently you either didn’t have healing faith “or” you had “doubt” you wouldn’t be healed. Don’t put the responsibility on Brother Torben but look at your responsibility for your healing.
Also please don’t believe God is trying to teach you something by keeping you sick, that’s a lie from satan.
Most believers do not get healed on earth, but God works with everyone where they are at, through prayer, and all believers will be rewarded eventually.
Andrew Wommack has some good video testimonies of people being healed called 'healing journeys' here on RUclips. The Mike Hoesch one is amazing. The testimonies will grow your faith. Also, he has a good teaching called 'God wants you well'.
@@stevemiller8952 I hear so often the accusation of cessationists that people are mistreated in charismatic movements by getting told „you didn’t believe enough“ and now I see they got a point. I’m deeply hurt by your words although I’m not meant. If somebody comes to a meeting to be prayed for, he has faith to be healed. His action showed his/her faith, like Torben says in this video. There must be another reason that is not in our hands, why this poor person has to suffer. Please don’t put guilt and shame on a person that has already enough to bear.
Yes, in James, he says that Abraham was justified through his actions, but in this case the word used means "vindicated". It demonstrated it to be genuine. It is the same word Jesus uses when he says that wisdom is "vindicated" by her children. The actions demonstrate the underlying root to be genuine.
Torben study the Sabbath and Sunday worship.
The church will not stand before God on judgment day. It will be each person by themself. Wake up people.
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I feel this challenge would best be directed to pastors and elders.
Please reconsider if you are thinking of leaving your church tomorrow in search of more miracles.
We need a work of God to transform the church.
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Romans chapter 8
DECEPTION COMES FROM FOCUSING IN PEOPLE INSTEAD OF GOD.
Therefore, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us also lay aside every weight, and sin which clings so closely, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, LOOKING TO JESUS, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. (Hebrews 12:1-3 ESV)
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. (Eclesiastés 7:20 ESV)
Regarding the Kingdom Of God. I want to highly recommend a book called, Empire Of The Risen Son, by Steve Gregg.
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What I'm trying to work out is if I am truly repentant and if I have truly made Jesus Lord.
One thing I am sure of is that salvation is for those who are IN Christ, who do not live according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit. For if you live according to the flesh, you will die.
Salvation is a life for a life. "If you try to keep YOUR life, you will lose it, but if you give up your life for my sake, you will keep it unto eternal life". "Why do you call me "Lord", but not DO what I say?" Of course there is grace, but obedience is the test of genuine faith. Without it, we are found unfit and will not enter the Kingdom of God.
Where I struggle is that it's tempting to feel the pressure of "working for it" and I think there is a Scripturally accurate basis for it. Jesus, Peter and Paul all warned that we should be terrified of missing the mark.
I keep searching for the answers, but I have little peace and I think that's OK. I would rather worry and come to understanding than comfort myself into hell.
hey bro, when you say you would rather worry and come to an understanding than comfort yourself into hell this is a confession of true repentance and a desire to get it right by putting Gods will first and foremost in your life and trusting that he is a rewarder of those that diligently seek him (Heb 11:6) as repentance is a daily walk of seeking first the kingdom of God and his righteousness and denying ourselves, taking up our cross and following Jesus - there is a war between the inner new creation man (born again of water and the spirit) and the outer old man of the flesh (Gal 5:16-18) and what you are experiencing is normal as we grow in Christ. I presume you have been baptised in water and baptised in the holy spirit and can therefore pray in the spirit (speak in tongues) - I would encourage you to make time alone with God & to spend at least an hour each day praying Mt26:40-41 (or more if possible) in tongues and time in the word and in building up the innerman (Jude v19-21, 2Ti 2:15-16 etc etc) spending time with God and allowing the holy to minister to your spirit by both the spirit and the word and as you daily sow to the spirit (Gal 6:8-10) you will start to enter more deeply into the love, joy, peace etc and develop the fruit of the spirit and character of Christ in the inner man and this will eventually start to over flow in your life - I went through a season of years similar to what you are saying and was seeking and spending many hours a day in the secret place (private prayer) at the feet of Jesus asking for clarity, help in overcoming and to be led of the holy spirit (fasting at times also) and over time the holy spirit just transformed my life massively. I dont know who you are or your journey or what you do or dont do but if there is any edification or encouragement in the scripture references & testimony ive shared then praise God, he has great things for all of us and lifts us up as we humble ourselves to trust in him, his word and his wisdom. be blessed..
@@Jason-ub4rt I am in step with everything you are saying there. Thank you. I unfortunately have not been filled with the Spirit yet or prayed in tongues though I prayed for it for over a year and even got rebaptized. I got pretty discouraged after that and struggled, but I got over it and continue to seek relationship with God.
Peter said that the Holy Spirit is given to those who obey. I wondered for a while what that meant, but now I'm sure it means "obey the word of truth" which is the good news (meaning believe, repent, and be baptized). That's why I wonder if I am truly repentant (or I'm not understanding how to live by faith.)
@@danielbu2611 Hey Daniel, would you like to talk further on this? - im not sure how to pm via youtube..
@@Jason-ub4rt I guess so, but I'm not sure how we would. I don't want to put personal info out here. Could you not have a conversation here?
Hi Torben do you know Filioque and the Council of Chaldecon?
Romans 6 paints a beautiful picture of the purpose of baptism. We must be baptized to have our sins washed away while we are in the watery grave. We rise from the water a new life, a new person. Clean and pure with the Holy Spirit living inside of our new bodies. All of us should read Romans 6 once a week until we understand the passage.
Speak on the doctrine of the Trinity
Can of Worms 😅
How about living without luxuries, living without idols, living where you don't focus on human idols, like each family member, any celebrity, any person of influence.... and JUST STAYING FOCUSED ON JESUS CHRIST ALONE. HOW ABOUT LIVING WITH FORGIVENESS IN YOUR HEART from all of this, knowing true repentance from all the idols I allowed to take me away from GOD. That is the life of working the steps...I am moving through my brokenness and grief to move with JESUS CHRIST ALONE!
How about another deception, strange teachings from evangelists that ignore the role of sanctification ?
Sometimes people are not able to participate physically, or demonstrate publicly what they are working on. Sometimes public declarations are inappropriate. One dies not make the health report public to satisfy curiosity.
I guess you would speak differently about VISIBLE Works, if consulting in a hospice.
Any thoughts about people being slain in the spirit, I've seen this alot, however in the Bible the place this mentioned is the murderous crowd that came to arrest Yahshua.
Christianity without true fellowship
Start observing god's instructions like observing the sabbath, food, God's holy days,
That is called legalism sir.
@anitassigmundsen2554 it's only doing what Jesus tells us to do study the saying of Jesus
We are under the law of Moses. That was giving to the Jews. Not us gentiles. We obey Christ
@@anitassigmundsen2554 not if you want to do what God tells us to do
@TheLastReformation ask yourself can you add to god's word or take away from it isn't God powerful and wise enough to tell how he wants us to do or does he need our help to be understood if so he is not God stop listening to the church farther,s and listen to what scriptures says.
Only the word don't add or subtract from it take it for what it says
Bonjour Torben, j’ai écouté une vidéo qui parlait de délivrance pour les chrétiens qui ont des liens générationnels qui doivent être brisé en demandant pardon pour les péchés de nos ancêtres, qu’en pense tu? Si un chrétien n’est pas capable de se libérer de la colère, la boisson ou autres chose du genre peut il y avoir des liens génerationnels qui l’empêché d’être libre.
Bonjour ma sœur
La foi ET la repentance sont la 1ere action de puissance pour briser tout lien. La repentance est avant tout une décision et pas seulement un sentiment. Ensuite, la prière de la foi comme le dit Torben a également la puissance de briser tout lien. Il peut effectivement y avoir des problèmes/addictions/péchés ancrés depuis des générations, mais il n'est pas nécessaire d'y accorder trop d'importance. Le plus important est d'entrer par la foi et la repentance dans la marche a la suite de Christ. Croire et prier pour que le St Esprit fasse son oeuvre tout en faisant la notre.
Be blessed
What is the prayer of faith?
A prayer that makes things happen
Oh thankyou, I thought I was missing something ❤
Dear truthinthefaceoftyrany,
You say you came to Kickstart believing you would be healed. Why did you stop believing? You must stand in faith that God's Word is true (1 Peter 2:24; Isaiah 53:5; James 5:15 and many more) and, having done all, continue to stand in faith in God's promises. But you say you stopped believing.
I have a question. Can women be diciples? Can women heal and cast out demons? In the bible, all of Jesus' diciples were men. I understand God can use anyone to do His works, but is this something I should be doing all my life?
Yes. Go for it 🙏
Wasn't acts 2 tongues languages and not ecstatic tongues?
Also that. Yes.
ruclips.net/video/57M5wY-aPqs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
In 1 Corinthians13 :13 It says: " And now, abideth faith, hope and charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity. " 1 ye may prophesy" Cor. 14: 6 " Now brethren, if i come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine? " Vers 11: " Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh a barbarian, shall be a barbarian unto me" 1 Cor. speaks of various gifts of the Spirit. Vers 10: (...) " TO ANOTHER the working of miracles , (...) TO ANOTHER divers kinds of tongues; TO ANOTHER the interpretation of tongues." It makes clear: Speaking in tongues for exemple is not given for everyone.
Jesus Himself proclaimed all that are Born of the Spirit will speak in tongues.
John 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou HEAREST the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is EVERY ONE that is born of the Spirit. Notice how it mentions "HEAREST" and "So is EVERY ONE". that is Born of the Spirit.
And confirmed this on the day of Pentecost.
Acts 2:1-4
And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
And suddenly there came A SOUND from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
And they were ALL FILLED with the Holy Ghost, and BEGAN TO SPEAK WITH TONGUES, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
Isn't tongues an actual language? Not so much la la la, kind of noise?
See here ruclips.net/video/57M5wY-aPqs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Well done Sir.l visited your place in Denmark, two times.from Hamburg.Please.stop, mentioned Lutheran church.and focus on your message.because, they will see it,as an attack.This is what brought the persecution.
I think your heart is in a right place, but when you say "as an elder one of the things they know how to do is to get people healed" you are wrong.
It is the exclusive will and purpose to God to heal according to his own prerogative. Not that of elders.
I say this because we are really just cups on Gods shelve. No matter how old a cup is, if the owner does not chose to use it to serve wine, it remains an empty cup on the onwers shelf.
So, but if we are filled with when, again according to his will, then he will use us to serve it.
There are cups he uses everyday, there are cups he uses once in a while for special occasions, there are cups he uses in unfavorable places, and there are cups he keeps in the shelf for s specific time.
What then is the point, God owns us all, and he will chose who he wants to use for his own purpose, how, when etc.