I’m a special needs mom to an autistic and developmental learning disability that’s not part of autism. He also has a chromosomal disorder. This has to be taught to parents and teachers who help our children while we as parents work. This information is a must for teachers who come in contacts daily with our children. This needs to be taught in elementary through high school. This is a must for life skills. If not we are setting up our children for failure. My heart hurts for my son because cognitive he is 5 but chronologically he is 15 going on 16. All his Dr.s want to shove his problems under the rug and not giving me help. This IS A MUST!!
The amount of work and intellgence along with tenacity from each of you that produced this together is Amazing! I commend each of you and thank you for helping us as a society grow forward in our not only acceptance but understanding of every individual on every level of the spectrum. It's not an easy subject and tends to be prejudged in a very dysfunctional way from what society calls " normal people"! Thank you thank you all.
All I'm going to say is me regularly going outside to my local park is very good for your mental health, it stopped me from being terminally online like most on the spectrum
If you can find a way to live in a rural area surrounded by nature, you may find it very relieving. I used to walk and sit in graveyard when I lived in the city. Moving to the woods has done a lot of good for me, though it does make being social a bit more difficult.
As a person with Autism Spectrum Disorder, I am afraid that I could commit petty sexual crime without mens rea, because I don't understand some body languages very well, specifically body languages that are supposed to be simple to understand, and I don't understand mixed messages very well, even though it's obvious. I get scared that I can't agree or disagree if I am being inappropriate, even when my friends say that I am a good friend to them. I know that studies say that people with Autism Spectrum Disorder are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators, but the problem is crime is a very broad term, and you need social skills to follow specific laws. Lacking social skills can highten the risk for petty criminal behavior, specifically related to invading boundaries. I sometimes become violent and very stressed when I am in a completely different environment, and at the moment, I don't feel safe, but to others, I am seen as a criminal. It's embarrassing!
Do you have time to remove yourself from the environments causing the meltdown? Do you know the signs of an incoming meltdown in order to avoid it getting worse? I am asking about your experience because i recently found out im autistic and my meltdowns can be violent too. In the form of throwing stuff or hurting myself. But if someone touches me while having a meltdown i might hit back.
Self harm does not have to be related to sex or have a sexual root. And "ending up in prostitution" is not objectively better or worse than ending up in any paid (salaried) job, or maintaining any other type of sexual life option. Although I doubt that women with ASD are engaging in that activity in a wider proportion than to those with another or no neurological condition. Having ASD means having limited job opportunities, in addition to other vulnerabilities, but women usually receive more empathy from their human environment and from the opposite sex, which includes more options to receive support from her social circle or to form a family project.
@@manuelmanzanero5057 High rates of sexual assault, physical abuse, substance abuse, human trafficking, contracting a sexually-transmitted disease, unwanted pregnancy, and a variety of mental disorders. Prostitution is rarely some independent girl boss job.
I once had profound symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder that looks like Schizophrenia from childhood and had complete lack of sense of right from wrong, as a very severe form of a profound developmental disorder that soon became mild and milder and when I was 7 years old, I had I mindset of a 4 year old and had interest of a human body, I would point a finger to point out females and male breasts, I would especially pointed out a finger at a female's boobs
This is bulshit. The better way to do this is legislate ADOS-2 M4 competency exemption. That would actually raise awareness that this route never will and give states rehabilitative authority over patients who need that oversight
Sorry but i don't care. If you rape a child you need to be dealt with harshly. Somebody getting a get out of jail free card because they "didn't know it was wrong" is a deep injustice to victims.
The closest thing to that in the video was a piano teacher letting his student sit on his lap because she couldn't reach the keys. The notion of an autistic person committing rape....WTF LOL they're not very autistic if they have the confidence to assault someone, or are willing to do something they know is wrong, or additionally that they know is hurting someone else.. I guess the argument is not knowing right from wrong and I think I might agree with you in the cases without intellectual disability. They're describing it as Asperger's, which precludes intellectual disability... So I find that troubling because I don't think that's a profile of someone likely to get into this trouble at all and it presents the difficulty of making an easily abused defense available. But if there's an intellectual disability it's not really victimhood if both parties are the same developmental age. I have Asperger's I have a 130+ IQ and made inappropriate gestures toward girls when I was in elementary school because they were a proxy for my abusive mother. Autistic boys more frequently give their female teachers hell when they're less scared of their mothers. I saved that for 7th and 8th grade before I outgrew it. Hell yeah autism would be non-malicious psychopathy if it wasn't pediatric. If you don't have kids and you have a high enough IQ you can turn it around and actually become a highly principled person, but proxying your mother's Munchausen isn't an auspicious start even if your house isn't furnished with stolen office supplies like ours was. I thought they were going to talk about problematic childhood behavior but I guess they can't if everybody's still pretending we don't know where the fuck autism comes from. It's always the mother. Behavioral heritability within families looks genetic. The genome's been sequenced for a dozen years. But autism's genetic and OJ's still looking for the real killer.
I understand your response deeply. I don't seek to disagree, merely share that as a teacher who works with young people who experienced rape and abuse themselves, I found this perspective as crucial for helping the suffering children and victims to contain and control themselves from committing the very same heinous and hellish crime committed against them. In many cases of sexual assault, the perpetrators were often victims themselves as children. This is not about protecting criminals. It is about helping victims to break the cycle of abuse and assault.
So did you miss that this discussion pertains to fantasy, not committing any form of assault? You need to grow the fuck up. At least when I fantasize about doing violence it’s to fictional catboys and I know that it’s messed up. You want to hurt real people and think you’re a real cool guy on the side of “justice.” You’re fucking sick, dude.
Almost certainly... But... I have mild Asperger's, which appears as symptoms similar to ADD... and even when I grew up in the 80s-90s, the common view was that... "ADD ain't real!! It's just a lack of discipline" ... So I'm almost certain that he did... but nobody would have ever considered that.
@@jordanedgeley6601 My son is 14, he saw something on the internet that I can't help him un see. We have removed all electronic devices. But now he makes cardboard computers and laptops. Honestly much safer.
@@beckygravlin6444 we are all exposed to malevolence or dark things eventually, he will be fine, dont try to over protect him, try to teach him that there is no good without bad and love is the answer, light can overcome darkness
I'm disturbed by this, because, non verbal people are NEVER represented. Ever. What happens when they can't even speak and they want to have sex? Want to touch others even though, they don't know what do do when it even though they will be imprisoned? I don't understand. Why don't we know this on a whole? Why don't we know this? Why do police officers know this? They charge them with molestation for example. But their perpetrator does not even understand that touching someone without consent is wrong. Some severely autistic non-verbal persons in puberty touch other people in their age group and are charged with sexual assault. Even though they don't know what to do because they cannot be taught. Then they go to prison and they stay there forever and ever and ever. When they're working ages are no older than four. It's pretty disgusting to me that we can't Define a category of autism that says I don't know what to do because I'm 3 years old in my mind. To imagine these type of people in prison is just painful. And if you persons don't realize this and make a motion against it for persons like this to be in prison then I don't even want to watch the rest of this video. You give a lot of good information but only with people who can speak. There are thousands of persons who can't speak and there in puberty and even though you read them stupid books they don't understand it. So they're in high school and touch other people, and just go to jail for it forever. So here is to the persons who are in prison and really three years old mentally. Congratulations United States you're putting people in prison who are babies. Babies in prison you say? Yes do a working age and a lot of the lower IQ persons in prison have a working age of 4 or less So ages 4 or less can go to prison. No One Believes this right? Google it. It's available to everyone Google is. So just Google it and make yourself happy with the fact that someone who can't speak is in prison right now because they touch someone else who can't speak in the same class that they thought was cute. Have a good night just knowing that poor parents who have a three-year-old are also charged with things like molestation because their kid molested someone else.
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I’m a special needs mom to an autistic and developmental learning disability that’s not part of autism. He also has a chromosomal disorder. This has to be taught to parents and teachers who help our children while we as parents work. This information is a must for teachers who come in contacts daily with our children. This needs to be taught in elementary through high school. This is a must for life skills. If not we are setting up our children for failure. My heart hurts for my son because cognitive he is 5 but chronologically he is 15 going on 16. All his Dr.s want to shove his problems under the rug and not giving me help. This IS A MUST!!
My son is 32 and has no idea how to relate to girls or women. He comes across as very creepy.
I'm at a loss with my 15 year old son. :-(
@@beckygravlin6444 i have an idea
I think i might have an idea
@@Lit123ful Maybe he is gay?
The amount of work and intellgence along with tenacity from each of you that produced this together is Amazing! I commend each of you and thank you for helping us as a society grow forward in our not only acceptance but understanding of every individual on every level of the spectrum. It's not an easy subject and tends to be prejudged in a very dysfunctional way from what society calls " normal people"! Thank you thank you all.
All I'm going to say is me regularly going outside to my local park is very good for your mental health, it stopped me from being terminally online like most on the spectrum
If you can find a way to live in a rural area surrounded by nature, you may find it very relieving. I used to walk and sit in graveyard when I lived in the city. Moving to the woods has done a lot of good for me, though it does make being social a bit more difficult.
"Socially active but odd" , this is the perfect description of my dating style.
Ok we need to educate people both with or without learning disabilities.
“Educate”...right
@@double0nine73yea
Though many autistic people have learning disabilities, autism is not itself a learning disability.
@@drachnae im still learning about this
Kinda lost me when Autism speaks was used as a "good resource"
this was amazing thank you for making my brain work toward helping and supporting my love one.
As a person with Autism Spectrum Disorder, I am afraid that I could commit petty sexual crime without mens rea, because I don't understand some body languages very well, specifically body languages that are supposed to be simple to understand, and I don't understand mixed messages very well, even though it's obvious.
I get scared that I can't agree or disagree if I am being inappropriate, even when my friends say that I am a good friend to them.
I know that studies say that people with Autism Spectrum Disorder are more likely to be victims than being perpetrators, but the problem is crime is a very broad term, and you need social skills to follow specific laws. Lacking social skills can highten the risk for petty criminal behavior, specifically related to invading boundaries.
I sometimes become violent and very stressed when I am in a completely different environment, and at the moment, I don't feel safe, but to others, I am seen as a criminal. It's embarrassing!
When you say that you become violent, do you mean that you become violent towards others?
@@he-mememan359
Yes, but it is very rare. I am more likely to destroy properties than harm others though.
@@orenfranz4580 When that happens, would you classify it as more of a meltdown or a tantrum?
@@he-mememan359
A meltdown.
Do you have time to remove yourself from the environments causing the meltdown? Do you know the signs of an incoming meltdown in order to avoid it getting worse? I am asking about your experience because i recently found out im autistic and my meltdowns can be violent too. In the form of throwing stuff or hurting myself. But if someone touches me while having a meltdown i might hit back.
can we see the slides that were used in the talk?
It would have helped to have seen the movie clip.
Has there been any research regarding the connection between autism and sexual addiction?
I feel like there needs to be focus on sex as self harm and girls on the spectrum ending up in prostitution
Self harm does not have to be related to sex or have a sexual root. And "ending up in prostitution" is not objectively better or worse than ending up in any paid (salaried) job, or maintaining any other type of sexual life option. Although I doubt that women with ASD are engaging in that activity in a wider proportion than to those with another or no neurological condition. Having ASD means having limited job opportunities, in addition to other vulnerabilities, but women usually receive more empathy from their human environment and from the opposite sex, which includes more options to receive support from her social circle or to form a family project.
@@manuelmanzanero5057 High rates of sexual assault, physical abuse, substance abuse, human trafficking, contracting a sexually-transmitted disease, unwanted pregnancy, and a variety of mental disorders. Prostitution is rarely some independent girl boss job.
I once had profound symptoms of Pervasive Developmental Disorder that looks like Schizophrenia from childhood and had complete lack of sense of right from wrong, as a very severe form of a profound developmental disorder that soon became mild and milder and when I was 7 years old, I had I mindset of a 4 year old and had interest of a human body, I would point a finger to point out females and male breasts, I would especially pointed out a finger at a female's boobs
What about asd adults being taught “ role playing” in chat rooms” and they end up not only interacting with their cognitive age but minors too..
The third speaker !!!
I wonder when these talks go on. Are they really talking about the "high" function autistic guys and girls or the low end.
Both
We are both susceptible...in different ways (I think).
Both. An autistic lawyer was caught with massive amounts of the "counterfeit deviance" pictures they discussed.
This is bulshit. The better way to do this is legislate ADOS-2 M4 competency exemption. That would actually raise awareness that this route never will and give states rehabilitative authority over patients who need that oversight
Sorry but i don't care. If you rape a child you need to be dealt with harshly. Somebody getting a get out of jail free card because they "didn't know it was wrong" is a deep injustice to victims.
The closest thing to that in the video was a piano teacher letting his student sit on his lap because she couldn't reach the keys. The notion of an autistic person committing rape....WTF LOL they're not very autistic if they have the confidence to assault someone, or are willing to do something they know is wrong, or additionally that they know is hurting someone else.. I guess the argument is not knowing right from wrong and I think I might agree with you in the cases without intellectual disability.
They're describing it as Asperger's, which precludes intellectual disability... So I find that troubling because I don't think that's a profile of someone likely to get into this trouble at all and it presents the difficulty of making an easily abused defense available. But if there's an intellectual disability it's not really victimhood if both parties are the same developmental age. I have Asperger's I have a 130+ IQ and made inappropriate gestures toward girls when I was in elementary school because they were a proxy for my abusive mother. Autistic boys more frequently give their female teachers hell when they're less scared of their mothers. I saved that for 7th and 8th grade before I outgrew it. Hell yeah autism would be non-malicious psychopathy if it wasn't pediatric. If you don't have kids and you have a high enough IQ you can turn it around and actually become a highly principled person, but proxying your mother's Munchausen isn't an auspicious start even if your house isn't furnished with stolen office supplies like ours was. I thought they were going to talk about problematic childhood behavior but I guess they can't if everybody's still pretending we don't know where the fuck autism comes from. It's always the mother. Behavioral heritability within families looks genetic. The genome's been sequenced for a dozen years. But autism's genetic and OJ's still looking for the real killer.
I understand your response deeply. I don't seek to disagree, merely share that as a teacher who works with young people who experienced rape and abuse themselves, I found this perspective as crucial for helping the suffering children and victims to contain and control themselves from committing the very same heinous and hellish crime committed against them. In many cases of sexual assault, the perpetrators were often victims themselves as children. This is not about protecting criminals. It is about helping victims to break the cycle of abuse and assault.
So did you miss that this discussion pertains to fantasy, not committing any form of assault?
You need to grow the fuck up. At least when I fantasize about doing violence it’s to fictional catboys and I know that it’s messed up. You want to hurt real people and think you’re a real cool guy on the side of “justice.”
You’re fucking sick, dude.
You either didn't watch the video or didn't understand what was said.
@@nestoronfire847 yes I did
Did Michael Jackson have ASD?
Almost certainly... But... I have mild Asperger's, which appears as symptoms similar to ADD... and even when I grew up in the 80s-90s, the common view was that... "ADD ain't real!! It's just a lack of discipline" ... So I'm almost certain that he did... but nobody would have ever considered that.
I'm at a loss.
How do you mean?
@@jordanedgeley6601
My son is 14, he saw something on the internet that I can't help him un see.
We have removed all electronic devices. But now he makes cardboard computers and laptops. Honestly much safer.
@@beckygravlin6444 we are all exposed to malevolence or dark things eventually, he will be fine, dont try to over protect him, try to teach him that there is no good without bad and love is the answer, light can overcome darkness
@@jordanedgeley6601
Yes I understand !
I have tried just about everything to help him.
Thank you for your time.
@@beckygravlin6444 time is a healer
3:26, 8:42, 26:54
I'm disturbed by this, because, non verbal people are NEVER represented. Ever. What happens when they can't even speak and they want to have sex? Want to touch others even though, they don't know what do do when it even though they will be imprisoned? I don't understand. Why don't we know this on a whole? Why don't we know this? Why do police officers know this? They charge them with molestation for example. But their perpetrator does not even understand that touching someone without consent is wrong. Some severely autistic non-verbal persons in puberty touch other people in their age group and are charged with sexual assault. Even though they don't know what to do because they cannot be taught. Then they go to prison and they stay there forever and ever and ever. When they're working ages are no older than four. It's pretty disgusting to me that we can't Define a category of autism that says I don't know what to do because I'm 3 years old in my mind. To imagine these type of people in prison is just painful. And if you persons don't realize this and make a motion against it for persons like this to be in prison then I don't even want to watch the rest of this video. You give a lot of good information but only with people who can speak. There are thousands of persons who can't speak and there in puberty and even though you read them stupid books they don't understand it. So they're in high school and touch other people, and just go to jail for it forever.
So here is to the persons who are in prison and really three years old mentally. Congratulations United States you're putting people in prison who are babies. Babies in prison you say? Yes do a working age and a lot of the lower IQ persons in prison have a working age of 4 or less
So ages 4 or less can go to prison. No One Believes this right? Google it. It's available to everyone Google is. So just Google it and make yourself happy with the fact that someone who can't speak is in prison right now because they touch someone else who can't speak in the same class that they thought was cute. Have a good night just knowing that poor parents who have a three-year-old are also charged with things like molestation because their kid molested someone else.
Neither of you understand who this video is talking about.
furry isn't a fetish
But it's super hott
How come its not a fetish? Some people practice intimacy in those suits?! I suppose for some its just cosplay. Idk.
Yes it is