The actor responsible for Thing is Victor Dorobantu.The fact that he was able to put so much character into a HAND that viewers got emotional over the possibility if his death is simply extraordinary. You're a wizard, Victor. Thanks for the impossible work
Tyler started being all romantically frustrated and pursuing Wednesday in the same episode that Thornhills class was about carnivorous plants using sexual mimicry to lure in prey. I took that as a clue.
Yes she really ran the whole gamut of emotions after avoiding them for so long. She started realizing after burns from Enid, Xavier, & the Eugene incident that maybe she's NOT better than Bianca after ALL! 🤔
“You know lobotomies, their like tattoos, you just can’t get one.” 🤣 There is only one member of the Addams Family that I love more than Wednesday and that’s Uncle Fester. He’s freaking insane, even by their standards. And Fred Armisen was PERFECTLY cast as Uncle Fester. I hope that he actually becomes a full supporting character in Season 2. Plus I never thought that I would fear for the (un)life of a disembodied hand but damnit they made me care for him as much as Wednesday. As for the Hyde, I like the concept of it but I just wish they made it look scarier, it looks more like a cracked out chupacabre.
21:44 " What are you even bringing back there's not a heart" I have no idea if it was planned but if you look at a palmistry chart you will see Fester is putting his fingers on both ends of thing's "Heart line" so I'm going with that!
An out of control misdirect... even though Xavier is innocent he confessed to being the hyde when he was arrested, saying he should have let Rowan kill Wednesday.
I had a slight feeling it could be Tyler since I knew Tyler was around too and not just Xavier, but the dance and him getting hurt kinda threw me off on knowing for sure who it is. I told my parents,” I don’t wanna be right, but I think it might be Tyler” and they were very sus on thorn hill like you guys are
I love that you guessed it was taylor since the early episodes. I felt like they tried to push that it was xavier to hard and what we learned from other movies and shows is if someone is to nice then he is up to something. Its just movies a-b-c. I also guessed it was taylor early in the show
I suspected was Tyler from the episode Wednesday said something like "there is a monster on all of us" and the camera showed us Tyler. But just before this episode i remember i was kinda changing over the idea of the hyde and the dead sister been miss Thornhill and the therapist(or the opposite). I never suspected Xavier
I figured out early on it was Tyler even though I missed some clues you guys pointed out. I just figured 2 things gave it away. 1) They showed Xavier wayyy too much for it to be him. 2) Since the Hyde spared Wednesday's life after killing Rowan, the only other person that liked Wednesday was Tyler who was just as obsessed with her as much as Xavier was. 3) Plus he always walked around in a daze and was Angry ALL the time! Great acting & storytelling! 🎭🎦🍿
Also in the 1991 film"Addams Family". And that's why I suspected her from the very beginning...there's no way you put '90s Wednesday in a spin-off about *another Wednesday* and you don't make them fight at one point!!
I just noticed that the Hyde came from the bathroom door. I'm guessing maybe she had a session with Tyler and he went to the bathroom and heard everything.
When he mentioned the coffee machine was a temperamental beast in the first episode I new he was the monster for sure. plus he totally loves like the monster low-key lmao.
Yeah I figured it was Tyler after he scratched himself. Xavier seemed too much like a red herring. It's a bit predictable, but they make you stop and think several times. So it's still fun to see what happens.
Some cultures do eat in the cemetery like for Dias de los Muertos. Victorian times it was popular, those who practice Radonitsa, Hindu religion . . . . .
@spriken The glasses and pictures she already had, the necklace she could have swiped from the police station. Who do you think planted them, the sheriff? She had most of the items and knew exactly where to find them in the room because she placed them there. It's also a tv show. Sometimes, they simply don't account for every detail.
I just casually showed that movie to my mom(who is planning on watching"Wednesday"with me)and she asked me:"Why do you wanna show this to me?"and I was like:"Oh,you know..'cause it's a good movie and it has an amazing final scene...🙄🎶"I couldn't tell her the truth and spoil the surprised!;-D I already got it spoiled for *myself* thanx to Twitter!🤦♂
I guessed Tyler was the monster in the first episode, because of the hair. I guessed Ricci's character was also a bad guy, because it's Christina Ricci, just didn't know how.
Am new to channel and at first was unsure I'd enjoy it but over the course of Wednesday and your TLOU one am away to pretty much binge everything. Reeeeeally hoping you two did movies too and bravehearts in there somewhere..i will enjoy finding out 😁
I was skeptical of Tyler but ruled him out after the scratch. I thought it was the Therapist all along(no one confirmed the Hyde was male in it's human form👀)
I don’t think that Wednesday actually thought Xavier was the hide, I think she just wanted to get him out of the way and out of danger… But that is probably just me trying to figure something else out -i’ve already seen this and I didn’t try to predict anything for the first couple of episodes, because where is the fun in watching a supernatural TV show and trying to figure out the plot twists, being surprised is the best part of watching a new show. I never liked Tyler come here especially because he liked Wednesday and he wasn’t subtle about it- I mean, I probably would have liked his friendliness towards her. If she was any other character, say Wednesday, Xavier kinda had a point when he said “what’s there to like“ I do wholeheartedly, believe that she was confused about who Laurel was, but I think she planted all those things in Xavier‘s shed to get him arrested and out of the way while she figured everything out because she really does care about him I don’t know if I’m right, I just really like Xavier for some reason😅
This show has been amazing tbh.. i think the scene with thing deserves an emmy alone... every time i see it i feel mad emotion lol.. superb.. Poor Wednesday.. if any writer in the world wants to learn character development... this show and tim Burton is giving advanced classes.
I never trusted Tyler but we got a big clue in Season 4 at the dance when Wednesday had the vision I watched it in slo-mo and saw Tyler's back touched Wednesday and BOOM! Fasten your seat belts for Episode 8! Great Reaction Dos Cavazos!🙏
28:15 all kinds of wrong, but good effort though, most people didnt even suspect Tyler or the teacher, and from the first shot of the Hyde you can actually see Tyler's curly patch of hair, and the nightshade like you said is a pretty obvious clue.
Sometimes The obvious ends up being true... Remember the episode 1 right after the first murder when Thornhill met Wednesday, and said "I'm sorry about the mud on my boots". why did she have to say that other than give a clue that she was in the woods by the time if the murder... I discarded her to be involved because it was too obvious..
You guys got some things right but I feel it was wishy washy picks cause of going back and for who the Hyde is. Either way it was a good reaction. Yeah some parts I think you over thank it but in the end you were close then mat people I watched guessing it. Can’t wait till next episode witch is the finale. Have a good night.😊
A lot of reactors have a tendency to be like "I think I got it right/I knew it". Please. You've finally settled on someone, you've literally accused everyone at least once by this point.
Hate to pop your bubble, but the character played by Christina Ricci (the botanist), can't be Tyler's Mum. She was talking with Tyler when he and Wednesday went to the Rave'n. Tyler's mum died, that's why his dad never talks about her. I'm about half an episode ahead of you, so I don't have the actual answer yet, and only have a little more info than you, but my bet is that the Gates daughter didn't die, lived her life abroad a decade or two before coming back with a fake identity, and she's either the monster or controlling it somehow.
@@chrishebert5672 yes, and I'm talking from what they knew before they started the episode, not at the end. And it was mostly in response to who they thought was Tyler's mum. His dad wouldn't be so broken up about it if she worked down the road and got coffee from their son every morning. His mum died, that's the trauma that allowed the psychiatrist to unlock his Hyde.
11:58 - 12:06 Not the point nor the question.😑I'm telling ya...the Wenclair relationship is *so freaking overrated.* 29:05 - 29:07 Yeah,but she should have APOLOGIZED!SHE is the one in the wrong,not Enid and she didn't EARN her forgiveness!!!THAT'S why I'm saying they're overrated!😡Because Wednesday is such a *toxic friend* and Enid deserves better!💖 31:28 - 31:35 Then WHY are you running away exactly?🤨 Anyway,yes,see?You ARE better detective than Wednesday!😉 I didn't get the CHANCE to guess it was Tyler because I thought it was Thornhill in ep 1 because of the muddy boots,but then Twitter spoiled me the monster's true identity before I could watch ep 2!😓
Not y’all thinking Wednesday is going for Xavier just because Tyler is the Hyde. If anything she’ll be more into him. Xavier is just not Wednesday type
You're so right, and you're So Wrong, at the same time! Not telling you how you're wrong; as you will find out on the next episode. I didn't want to believe it was Tyler, but I know it wasn't Xavier. As far as Thornhill; I was hoping it was Ricci, as a Wednesday vs Wednesday seemed too obvious. So I wasn't surprised; per say, more disappointed.
I didn't guess. I got broken-hearted on the reveal. But I am right about Laurel is. Just wrong about the Hyde. I thought the Hyde was Crakstone himself and thought he got longevity being the monster.
@Dos Cavazos,doesn't hw they film the in the forest with Wednesday encountering Uncle Fester sorta has style look of Sleepy Hollow film/TV series,because the Tim Burton factor,ha?.
What made me think it was Tyler from episode 2 was the way his father refused to talk about his mother. It drove he and Tyler apart. Definitely a big mystery with Tyler's mother. At the time, I was thinking that Tyler's mother may have had an affair with someone at Never More, resulting in Tyler being born a Hyde. Perhaps that was the big mystery and why Tyler's father won't talk about her? You'll find out in the next episode.
So when you say roast him if he is completely wrong, are you saying like roast his chestnuts over an open fire? I typically don't try to figure out mysteries.
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alright
Dude has a Ponytail a Bun is on Top of the head 💡👍
@XL Old-fashioned ladies and equestrian women beg to differ on the bun thing.
legally blonde is a brilliant movie, but for wednesday it is basically a horror :D
The actor responsible for Thing is Victor Dorobantu.The fact that he was able to put so much character into a HAND that viewers got emotional over the possibility if his death is simply extraordinary. You're a wizard, Victor. Thanks for the impossible work
He is actually a magician. His slight of hand must be on point.
Tyler started being all romantically frustrated and pursuing Wednesday in the same episode that Thornhills class was about carnivorous plants using sexual mimicry to lure in prey. I took that as a clue.
I never thought of that! Super cool.
Comedian Fred Armisen as Uncle Fester was awesome. Hope to see more of him next season.
Very fun to see him in anything honestly.
"He's not a simp, he's just shooting his shot." I cracked up so hard at this remark lmao
I really love how in one episode we see Wednesday fully smiling when she sees her uncle Fester & crying when she thinks Thing is dead.
Yes she really ran the whole gamut of emotions after avoiding them for so long. She started realizing after burns from Enid, Xavier, & the Eugene incident that maybe she's NOT better than Bianca after ALL! 🤔
I saw more emotion from Wednesday this episode than any other
I love how i watched a show full with people, but i cried for a 🦂 and a ✋️ .
I thought it was Tyler for so long, and this moment made me actually pop off like I just won a fighting game tournament
I guessed it was Tyler the moment I saw him and the Hyde. The Hyde literally has his eyes and hair.
It won't be hard to guess before Wednesday. She accuses everyone.😆
Apart from the right people!;-PP
Fred Armisen as fester is something i never knew I needed and now I know. So. Fucking. Good.
100%
“You know lobotomies, their like tattoos, you just can’t get one.” 🤣 There is only one member of the Addams Family that I love more than Wednesday and that’s Uncle Fester. He’s freaking insane, even by their standards. And Fred Armisen was PERFECTLY cast as Uncle Fester. I hope that he actually becomes a full supporting character in Season 2. Plus I never thought that I would fear for the (un)life of a disembodied hand but damnit they made me care for him as much as Wednesday.
As for the Hyde, I like the concept of it but I just wish they made it look scarier, it looks more like a cracked out chupacabre.
Another reactor calls it a supercabra.
And I wish Joe looked as intimidating as the picture with him and Wednesday in the burning courtyard
21:44 " What are you even bringing back there's not a heart" I have no idea if it was planned but if you look at a palmistry chart you will see Fester is putting his fingers on both ends of thing's "Heart line" so I'm going with that!
An out of control misdirect... even though Xavier is innocent he confessed to being the hyde when he was arrested, saying he should have let Rowan kill Wednesday.
I had a slight feeling it could be Tyler since I knew Tyler was around too and not just Xavier, but the dance and him getting hurt kinda threw me off on knowing for sure who it is. I told my parents,” I don’t wanna be right, but I think it might be Tyler” and they were very sus on thorn hill like you guys are
I love that you guessed it was taylor since the early episodes. I felt like they tried to push that it was xavier to hard and what we learned from other movies and shows is if someone is to nice then he is up to something. Its just movies a-b-c. I also guessed it was taylor early in the show
I suspected was Tyler from the episode Wednesday said something like "there is a monster on all of us" and the camera showed us Tyler.
But just before this episode i remember i was kinda changing over the idea of the hyde and the dead sister been miss Thornhill and the therapist(or the opposite).
I never suspected Xavier
I figured out early on it was Tyler even though I missed some clues you guys pointed out. I just figured 2 things gave it away. 1) They showed Xavier wayyy too much for it to be him. 2) Since the Hyde spared Wednesday's life after killing Rowan, the only other person that liked Wednesday was Tyler who was just as obsessed with her as much as Xavier was. 3) Plus he always walked around in a daze and was Angry ALL the time! Great acting & storytelling! 🎭🎦🍿
Define obsessed. I only saw teenagers being teenagers but do tell me why any infatuation is obsession in your eyes.
Ms. Thornhill played Wednesday Addams in the 1993 film Addams Family Values, by the way.
Also in the 1991 film"Addams Family". And that's why I suspected her from the very beginning...there's no way you put '90s Wednesday in a spin-off about *another Wednesday* and you don't make them fight at one point!!
@@Nicamon Sad to hear that Lisa Loring, who played Wednesday in the 1960s Addams Family TV series died this past week at the age of 64.
@@chrishebert5672 ☹ R.I.P.
I just noticed that the Hyde came from the bathroom door. I'm guessing maybe she had a session with Tyler and he went to the bathroom and heard everything.
When he mentioned the coffee machine was a temperamental beast in the first episode I new he was the monster for sure. plus he totally loves like the monster low-key lmao.
Yeah I figured it was Tyler after he scratched himself. Xavier seemed too much like a red herring. It's a bit predictable, but they make you stop and think several times. So it's still fun to see what happens.
The monster looks just like Tyler. For me, the fact it had the same hair as him gave it away.
Some cultures do eat in the cemetery like for Dias de los Muertos. Victorian times it was popular, those who practice Radonitsa, Hindu religion . . . . .
The framer and planter of the evidence was Wednesday. She was so sure he was guilty that she planted the evidence and set him up with the Sheriff.
... Some of those were pretty personal items that would have had to be taken at the time of the murders, so how did she get the items?
@spriken The glasses and pictures she already had, the necklace she could have swiped from the police station. Who do you think planted them, the sheriff? She had most of the items and knew exactly where to find them in the room because she placed them there. It's also a tv show. Sometimes, they simply don't account for every detail.
21:52 she blinked
I thought it might be Tyler but I wasn’t as strongly if believing it. I didn’t think it was Xavier though
I binge watched you yesterday up to this point and laugh at y’all and enjoy your assessment of the theme
Yes, Legally Blonde IS a Horror movie!
I just casually showed that movie to my mom(who is planning on watching"Wednesday"with me)and she asked me:"Why do you wanna show this to me?"and I was like:"Oh,you know..'cause it's a good movie and it has an amazing final scene...🙄🎶"I couldn't tell her the truth and spoil the surprised!;-D I already got it spoiled for *myself* thanx to Twitter!🤦♂
I kinda guessed it as when we first met Ms. Thornhill she literally was wearing the muddy boots
I guessed Tyler was the monster in the first episode, because of the hair. I guessed Ricci's character was also a bad guy, because it's Christina Ricci, just didn't know how.
"I guessed Ricci's character was also a bad guy, because it's Christina Ricci"👈THIS!!!!!
4:10 The bee haven
Am new to channel and at first was unsure I'd enjoy it but over the course of Wednesday and your TLOU one am away to pretty much binge everything. Reeeeeally hoping you two did movies too and bravehearts in there somewhere..i will enjoy finding out 😁
I’m so sad Tyler being the monster, I loved Tyler & Wednesday together 😭💔
Same!😟💔
You guys were on it this entire series. Anthony is perceptive as hell
The Uncle fester Depicted in this show Is the one from the original old show
Yeah, he had electric powers (he could light a light bulb by putting it in his mouth).
I was skeptical of Tyler but ruled him out after the scratch. I thought it was the Therapist all along(no one confirmed the Hyde was male in it's human form👀)
Ms. Thornhill being Tyler's mom is such a stretch.
Team Xavier!
Laughing man's been doing a little reading and or listening. "Dirty pool old man" --Raul Julia RIP
I knew it was tyler early because it looks like him. They both got the same exact nose
I was honestly surprised about the hyde reveal. I never suspected Tyler to be the hyde
you guys have some great reactions. currently working through some of your back log of shows I love.
I don’t think that Wednesday actually thought Xavier was the hide, I think she just wanted to get him out of the way and out of danger… But that is probably just me trying to figure something else out -i’ve already seen this and I didn’t try to predict anything for the first couple of episodes, because where is the fun in watching a supernatural TV show and trying to figure out the plot twists, being surprised is the best part of watching a new show.
I never liked Tyler come here especially because he liked Wednesday and he wasn’t subtle about it- I mean, I probably would have liked his friendliness towards her. If she was any other character, say Wednesday, Xavier kinda had a point when he said “what’s there to like“
I do wholeheartedly, believe that she was confused about who Laurel was, but I think she planted all those things in Xavier‘s shed to get him arrested and out of the way while she figured everything out because she really does care about him
I don’t know if I’m right, I just really like Xavier for some reason😅
Episode 7 was my favorite from the season because of Uncle Fester.
I was right about it being Tyler but I was so sad I was right
This show has been amazing tbh.. i think the scene with thing deserves an emmy alone... every time i see it i feel mad emotion lol.. superb.. Poor Wednesday.. if any writer in the world wants to learn character development... this show and tim Burton is giving advanced classes.
I worked out Christina Ricci was the sister straight away . And Tyler was the Hyde as soon as his mother was mentioned
Forget Tyler and Xavier. I'm Team Enid!
Not a heart but animated muscle so electricity based
I mean Tyler would have to be 30 years old in the show for your theory to be true, as laurel gates was said to have drowned nearly 30 years ago.
I mean...the actor is 28 so...why not?;"-D
@@Nicamon 28? Wow he looks much younger. Well on the other hand Jenna ist also 20 haha
@@majesticryez Exactly.😄
Of course is Tyler.
Tyler looks like the Hyde on your Thumbnail 😂they probably did model the Goblin after his face
I'm surprised. I thought it was either Darth Vader or Cousin It. But, I was wrong.
I knew it was Tyler by ep 2
You're gonna cringe so hard for saying Laurel is the mom💀
I never trusted Tyler but we got a big clue in Season 4 at the dance when Wednesday had the vision I watched it in slo-mo and saw Tyler's back touched Wednesday and BOOM! Fasten your seat belts for Episode 8! Great Reaction Dos Cavazos!🙏
28:15 all kinds of wrong, but good effort though, most people didnt even suspect Tyler or the teacher, and from the first shot of the Hyde you can actually see Tyler's curly patch of hair, and the nightshade like you said is a pretty obvious clue.
Sometimes The obvious ends up being true... Remember the episode 1 right after the first murder when Thornhill met Wednesday, and said "I'm sorry about the mud on my boots". why did she have to say that other than give a clue that she was in the woods by the time if the murder... I discarded her to be involved because it was too obvious..
You guys got some things right but I feel it was wishy washy picks cause of going back and for who the Hyde is. Either way it was a good reaction. Yeah some parts I think you over thank it but in the end you were close then mat people I watched guessing it. Can’t wait till next episode witch is the finale. Have a good night.😊
18:37 for Wednesday it is a horror movie.
I didn't try to guess, I just let it unfold.
He always was too perfect, it was a dead giveaway since the start.
I mean if you guess everyone you have to be right yeah? lol
A lot of reactors have a tendency to be like "I think I got it right/I knew it". Please. You've finally settled on someone, you've literally accused everyone at least once by this point.
ok, I agree that legally blond is a horror movie!!!!🙃
Casey is team evil since the Predator hehe
Hate to pop your bubble, but the character played by Christina Ricci (the botanist), can't be Tyler's Mum. She was talking with Tyler when he and Wednesday went to the Rave'n. Tyler's mum died, that's why his dad never talks about her. I'm about half an episode ahead of you, so I don't have the actual answer yet, and only have a little more info than you, but my bet is that the Gates daughter didn't die, lived her life abroad a decade or two before coming back with a fake identity, and she's either the monster or controlling it somehow.
We know from episode 7 that Tyler is the Hyde. Wednesday saw him kill the therapist in her vision.
@@chrishebert5672 yes, and I'm talking from what they knew before they started the episode, not at the end. And it was mostly in response to who they thought was Tyler's mum. His dad wouldn't be so broken up about it if she worked down the road and got coffee from their son every morning. His mum died, that's the trauma that allowed the psychiatrist to unlock his Hyde.
The creepy part of this whole story is that Wednesday just turned 16 and Tyler looks like he's almost 30
Well...he _is_ almost 30 years old(28 to be precise)and it doesn't help that she _does_ look 16ish despite being actually 20!😵
Fred Armisen KILLLLLLED UNCLE FESTER...HE BROUGHT HIS A,B and C game... I'm enjoying watching him steal the show like Wednesday usually does
Awesome
It was a surprise. I thought it was Xavier. I suck at guessing things... I'm still team Tyler, I'm hopeless.
As a wee quirk of my 3hitty self i have to say thornhill is a Botanist lol not lobotamist 😆
11:58 - 12:06 Not the point nor the question.😑I'm telling ya...the Wenclair relationship is *so freaking overrated.* 29:05 - 29:07 Yeah,but she should have APOLOGIZED!SHE is the one in the wrong,not Enid and she didn't EARN her forgiveness!!!THAT'S why I'm saying they're overrated!😡Because Wednesday is such a *toxic friend* and Enid deserves better!💖
31:28 - 31:35 Then WHY are you running away exactly?🤨
Anyway,yes,see?You ARE better detective than Wednesday!😉
I didn't get the CHANCE to guess it was Tyler because I thought it was Thornhill in ep 1 because of the muddy boots,but then Twitter spoiled me the monster's true identity before I could watch ep 2!😓
I'm team Enid!
Thorkill lmao
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Oh, beehive was hilarious.
Not y’all thinking Wednesday is going for Xavier just because Tyler is the Hyde. If anything she’ll be more into him. Xavier is just not Wednesday type
I knew it, it was a giveaway since the start.
Merci.
wednesday had more emotions than you guys watching last of us ep3😨
Hi guys-i would like to hear Casey’s theory..
I'd seen the similarities between Tyler and the Hyde fairly early.. so yea.. a little too obvious maybe.
why is the audio going in and out on the video of wednesday for the first bit? thats new.
Yes Tyler has big googley eyes like the Hyde
Yeah we got it. It was obviously Tyler several episodes ago. You might have solved it all...or did you?🤔
You're so right, and you're So Wrong, at the same time! Not telling you how you're wrong; as you will find out on the next episode. I didn't want to believe it was Tyler, but I know it wasn't Xavier. As far as Thornhill; I was hoping it was Ricci, as a Wednesday vs Wednesday seemed too obvious. So I wasn't surprised; per say, more disappointed.
Tyler has looked like a creep the entire season. Just the facial expressions he has the entire season.
Thing may not have a heart but sure does have a pulse to bring him back . Haha
I laa u guys
Your predictions are really accurate
한국 드라마 도깨비 꼭 봐주세요!!!!!꼭!!!!!
I didn't guess. I got broken-hearted on the reveal. But I am right about Laurel is. Just wrong about the Hyde. I thought the Hyde was Crakstone himself and thought he got longevity being the monster.
ARREST THE REAL XAVIER ACTOR ASAP
@Dos Cavazos,doesn't hw they film the in the forest with Wednesday encountering Uncle Fester sorta has style look of Sleepy Hollow film/TV series,because the Tim Burton factor,ha?.
What made me think it was Tyler from episode 2 was the way his father refused to talk about his mother. It drove he and Tyler apart. Definitely a big mystery with Tyler's mother. At the time, I was thinking that Tyler's mother may have had an affair with someone at Never More, resulting in Tyler being born a Hyde. Perhaps that was the big mystery and why Tyler's father won't talk about her? You'll find out in the next episode.
Kyle? Do you mean Tyler?
@@cristela4034 Yeah, thanks. I fixed it. Don't know where Kyle came from.
They made Xavier so much of a creep it was pretty obvious he was a decoy
So when you say roast him if he is completely wrong, are you saying like roast his chestnuts over an open fire?
I typically don't try to figure out mysteries.