T5 Transmissions - Inspecting Transmissions Purchased on Ebay Pt. 1
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- I had a great deal of complaints from people getting horrible deals when purchasing supposedly rebuilt transmissions on Ebay. In this series I'll share my views and opinions on rebuilt and used transmissions I purchase on Ebay.
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I really enjoyed watching this break down of this Ebay purchased T5 transmission, but sad to see what some rebuilders pass off as acceptable in the rebuild of a transmission. Your attention to detail is much appreciated, and I would buy a transmission from you any day. 👍
I really enjoy your professionalism, thank you for all your shares.
Building Transmissions for over 40 years I totally agree.
Your videos are excellent. I have a 1990 Mustang and the T5 is in need of repair. It shifts hard from 1st to second if the revs are not perfect and shifting down from 4th to 3rd is tricky also. Was thinking of buying a used transmission because I have no experience rebuilding them at all only engine work, a few clutches, diffs, etc. Giving a step by step tear down, rebuild, and getting to watch how you go the extra mile is outstanding. I will be buying your book on manual transmissions and a full rebuild kit with gears. Thanks for the information.
Wow, you bashed this guy a good one. I hate people that skimp on services and give you crap back for good hard cash.
ive seen your video with ericthecarguy and its helped alot with the two transmissions im rebuilding for my mustang and watching your videos with what to use what not to use etc has helped tremendously in getting the job done right, thank you for making the videos!!
Thanks for watching. Much appreciated.
I feel I'd be better off going to the salvage yard, taking one, sitting on the rack, and going through it myself before I buy off of e bay
+Ed Spencer How True!
+Ed Spencer Bingo! Do it yourself, do it right and only do it once.
+boingkster 💪👍
Thank you for a great video. You really know your transmissions. If many people see this, the market for eBay transmissions will take a dive...
Unfortunately this is what you get many times on ebay. People who skip steps to make a fast buck. When it comes to transmissions you have to find someone reputable and not just go for the cheap unit. I don't know about everyone else but I only want to install one once. I also want it to work the way it's suppose to. Smooth shifting.
Paul....totally impressed by your professionalism and thorough-ness ;).......I've done several automatic trans over the years, but I'm a standard transmission guy (lover) and oddly enough, I've never rebuilt one......your vids give me inspiration in moving onto that realm.....tks
Thanks. Its not that hard. I've done automatics and it's all the same. Just parts
@@GearBoxVideo Yep......correct Paul, but it's those tips & tricks you learn over the years that improve the build/design that makes you unique......glad you're passing them on. My brother knows a guy in Syracuse that owns a business who redesigned the Muncie case and added a 5th gear. I remember all my (younger lol) years with the Muncie and was sad when it was retired.........definitely gonna add a manual box on a future build.....Muncie or T5.....
That is why if I can`t afford or don`t no of a reputable builder I do it myself.
Thanks for some more tips on what to look for on my T5 I am rebuilding for my race car.
In short, you were sold a re-assembled *used* transmission with a few badly-prepared new(ish) parts. Classic parts bin special.
thanks for the lesson in video i was unaware of many issues and poor technique/inspection tell tails and my severe lack of knowledge in production/ aftermarket possibilities and faults and that is just a little for this one type of g box the variations are ponderous . quality knowledge examples
Little by little, i'm getting more comfortable with the T5! Love what you're doing
Thank You
@@GearBoxVideo G'day Paul and greetings from Sydney Australia 🇦🇺🦘 mate 👍, just would like to say your video, first time I've seen you or watched one of your video's and shall checking out your others for sure though you are a true blue legend 🤘 Paul and straight shooter with a great talent and a excellent tradesmen with a powerhouse of professionalism, I have a T-5 box in my shed , was my brother's big story I'll spare the details though I just lost my dad in December and now getting rid of everything like this T-5 and a roadtrain of different car parts and a few cars etc lol, so I'll cut to the chase , I'm an engine builder/ automotive engine reconditioner/rebuilder by trade , from the every day Joe's car to get to work to Street machines, circuit racers , bike's, circuit and drag bikes and offcourse my favourite is drag racing so super street to ol Keith Black Nitro rails , but I've been out of the loop for some time , medical, stage 4 liver disease though I shouldn't be here I am, not going anywhere soon apart from selling up here and my 🐕 Buddy and I coming to your beautiful country to live , my life long dream since I was a kid, dad's fault and his stories from being in the USA 🇺🇸🦅 in the late 60's to 1970/71, so again I'll get to the point,lol, so I'm not to clued in with the price of boxes and being away from the loop of cars and all related it's been hard to work out a fair price on selling for a decent price and like you saying being burnt oh I understand especially I got alot less on a few things I've sold not knowing the correct pricing and researching gives me not a solid idea as you mentioned about different prices on something can be all over the Shop, so last bit quickly, I rang a old auto transmission bloke my engine shop did work for in the 90's and he put me onto this manual transmission specialist builder, I heard a few months back from this other gearbox shop I could get between $450 to $650, so I said to this guy I just want say$400 , he was yeah I have no problem, but I'll take it to my shop and tear it down to check it all like your video here you did and if it's got issue on gears etc it's worthless but all good I have $400 bucks but he said, and btw this guy is a straight shooter and decent guy as far as I can tell so no worries, but he said I'll make a bit off of it when I give it a quick service etc , so I said yeah cool so you'll make , I thought he'll say $700 to $ 800 odd, he said he make ,$ 1200 to $1250, my heart ❤️ dropped, lololl, but this was a few days back and now watching your video I think I just might tear it down myself , look at a few more of your vids do all the right stuff with inspection to cleaning to all you mentioned and rebuild it and sell it myself with a slightly higher price than $400, 🤣😁👍, so what do you think Paul? , Plus I have the trade of all you display and recommend eg , being clean to deburrinng, fit parts correct and buying not Chinese crap and all other related areas as it's pretty much the same thing just different smell if you get my drift 😁👍, ok I'll leave that there and again Paul your a bloody legend 🤘 mate and awesome bloke plus great teacher I see for sure 👍 🍻🇺🇸🦅🇦🇺🦘🤝 and I hope you enjoyed my long winded story , explanation etc with my ' Gone with the Wind ' two thousand page novel there 😁🤣👍✌️, you have a great weekend mate and take care now I'll check out more of your superbly made professional auto vids with gearboxes and yes I would like hear from you what you think and no not my long arsed story just what I might do now instead of just accepting$400 🤔👍✌️
Great video! I bought 2 T5's on ebay. The first one had bad Synchronizers and the second one had bad input shaft and bad bearings. Its amazing some of the crap people will put together!
Kevin did you simply replace input shaft? I have a 97 mustang with a t5 im wanting to pull the engine and put a 302 with a e303 cam, twisted wedge pistons and trick flow heads. My only problem is that models input shaft is larger than previous t5’s which won’t work with a 302 so I’ve heard. Just wondering if possible to simply pull and replace with a smaller input shaft. If anyone knows that answer I’d really appreciate it 🤙
Yes it is. I'd you have the 23 tooth long input you can replace it with the shorter earlier one. Tooth counts have to match
GearBoxVideo hey thanks I appreciate that, that’s awesome news. Making my project a little cheaper, should be generally easy to find a smaller one I hope. I’m not sure if it is a 23 tooth but it is a factory trans for a baseline 97 3.9 liter v6 mustang so I will look that up and see what I can find out. It’s my first project, learning more and more as I go, I appreciate the reply though for real
I'm pretty sure if you look at Ebay, the post is still up based on identical pictures!
Great video , after watching this I feel like my transmission is not so bad now.
Basically it's sloppy workmanship, and the preparation is piss poor.
As for parts some are good, and some are just paper weights.
I build alot of high end equipment of all kinds, I believe you do it right or don't do it at all !
It's simply logistics, your work is your advertising and bread and butter.
You don't shit where you eat.
This is why you don't buy from a guy who says I can do it.
You want a person who does this work all the time and who knows what they are really talking about .
Not a weekend worrier !
Good videos, you can tell this guy knows his stuff.
Thank you so much! I've learned more from you and this video than any other video, period. I really appreciate you taking the time to be so thorough in describing the small details and the cleanliness needed in a gearbox. Keep up with the great videos! BTW, I'm looking forward to receiving your manual too! Thx!
Thanks for the feedback.
Seems like a good idea if your a reputable builder to video the rebuild of the trans , show the serial number as you go. The buyer could see exactly what builder is doing & how parts looked etc. builder would have proof or work on video.
I have been looking to get a T-5, and glad i saw you're video. Thanks i will buy new.
Hi Paul, Thanks for the video, just bought an old Land Rover gearbox from ebay. Wish I had seen your video before diving in. Drained the oil and a few syncro teeth came out but did get a good rebate on the price so was Ok in the end, just have to spend a bit more on parts. Noticeable how similar these old Brit and American boxes are.
Most we're built around the same Borg Warner platform, so yes there are similarites
Your eBay T5 didn't have the countergear stabilizer, get the seller for false pictures. You da man Paul!
Probably would have pissed me off more, since it would be a copy of one of my designs.
Just found your channel. Great info. Just starting to put together my parts list for putting a T5 behind my late block flathead which is in a 49 Merc. Tired of the old 3 speed and solenoid OD. Thanks for the information your putting out.
Glad to help
Sad man. I see transmissions all the time on Facebook marketplace stating....shifts smooth, 75k miles, blah,blah,blah...and these people want 300 to 500 for used transmissions. they dont have the slightest clue on how rough a proclaimed smooth transmisson is. Every transmission I get like that always has worn out shift pads, etc. Very sad that people think that used T5s are worth so much.
I just bought a used t5 for 200 bucks and 175 shipping. The guy said it had 45 thousand miles on it and the car rotted and rusted away was reason he was parting it out. He took input shaft to ship it. It came missing four input roller bearings but otherwise looks really nice shape never rebuilt. I would stay away from rebuilt trannys new or low miles orgional. Then its not screwed up by someone else. Hopefully it will work out nice with my 1960 ranchero. Thanks for video
Man! I’ve learned sooo much watching your videos! Wish I had RUclips back when I was out breaking t-5’s! 😂 I’m gonna be good now with my new purchase, 95 5.0. I’ll probably be hitting you up for a rebuild kit in the future. Got the car and was low on fluid! Seems to be ok for now, but I’ll probably go through it once it getting some stuff straightened out on it and start hammering it!
Thanks for this video gonna spend a little extra and buy new for the peace of mind!
I love your work and your videos. And i'm just passionate. I am not surprised of this gearbox called is rebuild. Need to search some youtube tutorials on transmission rebuilds, it hurts your eyes and everything to watch one.
Paul, I hope you were able to recoup some of your money on that T5, You should report this Schmuck to E bay for passing off junk transmissions and bogus selling info.
Paul I am going to open my own Ebay transmission store and am hoping to make some serious coin....when do you throw out your trash?
Thank you sir. Here's hoping you sent the "rebuilder" the link to this video.
I did
great..i love your videos....some days yet and i will start to chek the trasmission of my '71 ford f100 3 speed w overdrive...
I don't feel so bad now,,I just bought a t5 for 250 dollars, but found the front bearing was shot when I got it home,,,,but everything inside looks great,,,and even all the bolts came out very easily...
Paul, after watching several of your videos and reading you book, seems like unless you can find a wct5 form a reputable source, it would be best just to bite the bullet and buy a new tremec. I really like you “do it right approach” might cost more in the short run but better than a blown trans due to poor craftsmanship and parts. Still would like to build my own but need a good unit to start with. Suggestion?
Way to keep them honest. Vintage audio is the exact same.
Thanks for information never buy the used transmission on eBay
Man I should send you pictures of the t-5 I got on trade everything was destroyed luckily only costed me 20$
Very interesting and detailed video, quite and eye opener indeed!
Nice video. I found the same add on Ebay, definitely not buying it. Should I get the one they sell at Modern Driveline? It has been quite dificult to find a T5 where I live, that I'm giving up...
I just don't get why people will half ass something like this. Growing up my dad taught me from a young age, and I paid attention to his words of advice as I did to what he was doing. And there was one thing he kept saying over and over. "It takes the same amount of time to do it right, as it does to screw it up"
wow, hell of a nice guy that sold that piece of crap.
That it was. I honestly think this person doesn't know any better and really believes he is doing a great job.
if that's the case he better catch some GearBoxvideos so he realizes he is doing a suck job.
Bob, has anybody mentioned you can do a stand in for Robert De Niro's voice! Love the video's amazing insight into this black art!
Sorry Paul, best gearbox videos out there.
Paul, great videos, there is so much details presented at your channel!
Btw. does the book cover setting tapered roller bearings (I mean not for specific gearbox but more like general principles with aluminium gearbox housing, preload values, etc)?
The book covers basics . Shimming sometimes can be transmission specific in regards to setting preloads of tapered bearings
@@GearBoxVideo Ok, I see, thanks for answer. ;)
Heard the rammstein in the intro, thought you are going to be rebuilding getrag or zf trans
thank u for sharing I really appreciate you doing this
Beto 7 Thanks for watching
Your videos are fucking sweet. can't believe I just learnt about this channel now!!
+IceInMaWeiner Thanks!
Paul you should blast this seller on E-Bay that was funk.
eyyyyy that Rammstein at the beginning on the vid!!
Good stuff. 'Preciate the time and advice. You're now my "go to" manual tranny guy. Hang in there.
screw the book....so many parts just having it done professionally its worth it !!!
awesome video! Thank you for your time to educate us
Thanks for watching!
Excellent info! Great up close details too. A video on the T 45 would be much appreciated. Lastly, who do you recommend for quality replacement parts? Thanks! :)
Me!
GREAT TEACHING IT MATCHES MY NELSON BOK GREAT HANDS ON AND TUTUROIAL
+David Lottig Jr Thank you
I love that Rammstien song lol
Been building them for years, and I too have seen the work of real HACKS!
Can you point me in the direction of parts to rebuild my t55 the guy I got it from said the shaft locked up on it
@@aaronthemartialmechanic893 Ask Paul first, not sure if he sells parts but, the "locked up" is a call for concern. Any manual transmission that is run in a low lubricant state has the possibility spin welding itself together especially if in overdrive as output shaft is spinning at a higher rate than the input shaft. Remove the input shaft bearing retainer and if you see any blueing indicative of heat stress, the likelihood of salvaging any of the internals in unlikely. Remember the T5 transmissions have no internal oil system they use merely in basin and sling to lube and cool internals.
Ok thanks. And I'm sorry i meant to put t56. I will take a look at it tom8and let you know how it goes
There is a little blue on the shaft
rebuilt transmission = just making the outside pretty!
I'm going to be removing my T5 to replace the clutch and flywheel this winter. The transmission seems to shift and operate just fine. The transmission has never had service other than regular fluid changes. Should I do anything while its out? Thinking I should at least replace the input bearing retainer.
I'm trying to decide on a T 5 or NV 3500. Which one would hold up behind a 4.8 LR4 that may be turbocharged eventually? Will be going in my 85 Mazda RX7.
Many new parts are in this purchased Transmission. And I would use it as is. The car surely breaks down because of other things.
The transmission couldn't even shift in the 1-2 shift because of the damaged and bent 1-2 synchro hub. The builder obviously had no idea how things work or relate to one another. Example; if the 1-2 ring doesn't fit on the hub because its bent, smacking it down with a hammer is not going to makes things somehow fix themselve..
I have learned so much from your videos but the rebuild kits on your website are all sold out any idea when they’ll be back in stock or where I could get some good parts? 1995 Mustang GT t5. keep up the good work and the good videos!
Working on it
Hey paul,,,your the man,,,,how can you identify a world class without taking it apart? Is there markings on the case?
See www.5speeds.com/t5
KRK Rokit 5 monitors! Do you make music as well?
Yes. Most of the new videos have my own music
Can i fit 04 v 8 transmission on a 91 mustang v 8 5 speed
First of all thanks you for posting all your videos you've helped me so much with all the info. My question is can you convert a 4x4 t5 into a 2wd/rwd?? I mean with the tailshaft housing swap? Thanks again
Tail housing and mainshaft swap
Rebuild by auto shop class .
Could you imagine if someone just installed this as is ?
I see it every week
Those people who do misrepresent themselves or their products should be exposed so others don't get burned.
I can say 100%, those are great books good building information.
Thanks for such a great video Paul. I'd like to add that it may not only be Ebay, but also trying to find a good T5 from salvage yards that you may be too far away from to inspect before you buy. They also may say rebuilt or resealed or tested good, but how do you know? I'm looking for a decent T5 (94 or 95ish) but am hesitant to pull the trigger for fear of getting what you got here. I've rebuilt many transmissions over the years, but I don't want to pay a premium price for a core quality box. A question I have is, what are the differences between early and later model world class units, such as the 5th gear shift fork you mentioned, and when did the tail housings change design etc.? Good things to know when looking at these things.
The important differences have to do with gear alloy and synchro design material. Most production WC units had early style paper lined rings. It wasn't until the early 90's that lining material started to change. It all worked well in my opinion and ring failures we're usually due to other circumstances such as a bad clutch. The only difference in tails were those used with reverse brake systems in the mid 90's. The better alloys and gear upgrades were done by 1986.
I live in LA, I wish you were close so I could ask you questions.
ask questions at support@5speeds.com Please no long questions. It may take time, but I do answer them. Thanks for watching!
Honestly this would be equivalent to giving an M-16 rifle to my Drill Instructor to inspect. I'd get hammered for it...haha. But for real....I would rather go to the junk yard with all their T5's and pull/rebuild myself than buy on Ebay.
That went worse than I thought it would!
Good video. Do you have a preference on which atf you use? Regards from the 🇬🇧
I like Royal Purple SynchoMax
Awesome video great info ! My question is are the two top dowel bolts obtainable on the top cover ?
Yes. Ford still sells them
@@GearBoxVideo ty !
you are a godsend! any chance you can do a 351c next? 😅
Nice! Thanks
great video you make it very clear what the issues are I am slowly working through your other videos 👍 I have a late WC T5 it has one tooth broken off on the counter gear but everything else looks good any idea why this would happen and anything else I should look for ? Thanks
Abuse and fatigue. Or lack of oil. You should change the mating gear
OK thanks very much keep up the great videos
Thanks Paul...im buying a scrapped t5 from a 85 s10...it comes with a bellhousing for $75. No shifter.. he recycled it so ill have to find one....this 8nstall is for a little 31 roadster im building. The seller has told me the bearings are froze up so I'm going into this knowing a rebuild will be nessary. I'll attempt this myself. At this stage... am I crazy or is 75 a deal? Hopefully I can get this going for under 400.
Great deal. The mechanical drive speedo tails sell for 200 alone.
@@GearBoxVideo thanks for that...I was not sure I was doing the right thing
I picked it up...picture a unit that has been out in the elements for 10 years (sellers statement) i bought it anyway...lol. every steel component is rusty and will require replacement. I'll peek into the case after i get a few beers in me to dull the pain. Im hoping I can keep my parts bill down to 300 bucks. The case has some cosmetic pitting of the aluminum that i can deal with....believe it's sound (no cracks) just will clean up and fill pits n paint eventually. The unit is all seized up for the rust.
thanks man, I really appreciate this video!
+Anthony Malcuit Thank you.
Paul is right a dirty box is bad lol!
You're the best in the business!
Why thanks! However there are really alot of talented builders out there.
When you mentioned cleaning parts,can you use brake cleaner to clean old oil off gears?Resaon I ask is I know they can take a real beating but if wrong fluid used it can immediately kill the trans
Brake cleaner evaporates too fast. Good for small work but not something I would recommend. Plus its very toxic.
Was looking for a t5 for a 86 Chevy Camaro with a 305.seen your video would like some info if you could are if you have a t5 5speed for sale.nice video haven't seen any new ones.
I don't have any for sale. I rarely come across rebuildable cores.
Paul, they make a 2.95 gear set for the T5 (T5Z). This set was for the Fox body type T5 or shorter input shaft as you probably know. I have a later T5 from a 95 Mustang (SN95) with the longer input shaft. is there any way to make that 2.95 gear set work? I've heard stories of welded input shaft but can't find any info. Thoughts?
There were some input people had modded. Some actually run a larger spline but take the needles not like the T5Z
I am thinking about getting a GForce 2000 trans for my drag car any recommendations on what clutch I should get
I want to see how you can get a refund from transmission you disassembled and threw most of the parts?
Simple, you post the name of the Ebay seller, with the video of the trash he sold. That's how.
Hey i got a 91 s10 i put in a new sline and bering i really love your videos explains allot i do need to rebuild my t5 how do i get parts to rebuild
I carry rebuild parts for T5 units . My company name is plastered on all my videos
@@GearBoxVideo so do i send you info and you send me what?
Hey Paul, Thanks for all the awesome content! I was wondering if you could tell me what I could use to clean all of the internal parts of my T5 transmission at home without a bath? I have seen in many places people recommending to use brake kleen but I was unsure if this was a safe thing to use and figured it would be worth it to just ask you and see if you had a second to let me know what you think I should use if not brake kleen? Thanks again for everything and I appreciate your time and content!!
Mineral spirits. Then dispose of it properly. Here we have several places we can drop off containers of solvents after we use them
GearBoxVideo thanks Paul! I went and picked some up yesterday and this stuff works very well. Just waiting on some shift fork inserts since I can’t find any locally. Hoping that and the new bearing on my input shaft will fix my problem! Thanks again man, you’re a great deal of help
Would I be deemed a barbarian, if I requested a video on rebuilding an SM 465 ?
Not at all! Send me a transmission. I love getting requests and have built these before but for some reason nobody understands that I don't have every transmission in my shop to satisfy everyones "build this one or do a video on this" request. If I get a PAYING job in, I'll do a video or I'd be happy to work a deal out with you if you crate and send me yours. I'm finishing up on a Jeep T176 and Dana 300 transfer case build because someone sent one in to me. More than happy to do it.
Hello,
The original NWC T5 (WG 13-52-062) in my '84 Trans Am is whining in all gears but the 4th gear. Gears shift perfectly.
I was told it's because the case is warped and there's nothing to do outside of replacing the transmission.
What do you think about that ?
Thanks !
SuperDuty455 no it is not because the case is Warped it is because the transmission was probably running low on oil, and therefore the front headset burnt up. it quiets down in 4th gear because the transmission is locked direct and no gears are being used
hey boss great vid do you build t5's for people or should i build my own? i can build engines suspension brakes etc is that something you think i can build?
If you watch the videos they are pretty easy, plus my book has awesome color pics. You need some good retaining ring pliers, access to a press and a good set of press clamps.
Great Video Thanks
What shifter fork inserts do you recommend for a street strip application? I have seen some people use brass or bronze but I have seen you use plastic.
I only use OEM Tremec pads. They work great. I've seen the bronze pads actually wear faster. If you are using are using a good lube and have shifter stops and don't lay your hand on the shifter while driving, its not an issue and never has for me.
i need parts for the same gear box could you be so kind and send me a web site i cant find the parts here in malta
Www.5speeds.com
I would never buy a rebuild motor or tranny after watching this video , tnx for the info
Your Transmission teachings are awesome ive learned a lot. I have a Ford Ranger 4x4 1996 3.0 ... I recently dont have reverse ... I put it in reverse it engages but has no power only on level or very slight inclines ... I dont even use the gas going backwards because i dont want to do any further damage ... do you have any suggestions or just get it rebuilt
Is it automatic or stick? A manual transmission wouldn't slip unless its the clutch.
+GearBoxVideo automatic
More than likely a clutch pack in burned up. You need to get this address before you end up getting stuck.
+GearBoxVideo I really appreciate that thanks for getting back to me I will get that checked out shortly in the next couple of days I really appreciate it thank you.
+GearBoxVideo how to keep in touch with you I'm getting a project car and probably going to use a T5 transmission I appreciate your help man thank you
I hope you chewed out this seller and he did right and refunded some of your money
No, actually I'm working on a follow up video to this story.
So the price is good, if it was filled with oil it would probably perform very well. This guy wants a brand new transmission for $800
Great video, Great advice 👍
I need my T5 rebuilt!