To preempt the folks who might say I missed on the update, yes, I did see it, it is in the second article on this video. They are "allowing", but with great restriction, and in a way that looks very temporary. Also, unless it is a mere checkbox an people still need to go through the registry edits (I didn't look into the full upgrade without requirements process), it is still a barrier. Also, the constant nags will get their point across anyway. All that being said, let me know your thoughts!
Microsoft launched a new update unsupported systems can run windows 11😂😂😂 according to britech channel many think its response to losing clients to linux and steam 😉
There are still NO GUARANTEES that you will get updates (including those for security) going down the unsupported route. Whatever, I don't trust Microsoft at all. They are running scared.
eWaste isn't the point, the whole point is encrypting your hard drive and controlling the keys. Too many people forget that the first requirement for a subscription system is controlling access to the product. They can't make Windows a subscription service unless they can turn it off when people don't pay. Encrypting your data so it can only be unlocked by their key gives them the whip hand. This is not a mistake or for user security. It's all about getting rid of the computers they can't lock against their owners so they can transition to some form of recurring payment model.
I got a great second hand deal already this year, and it was Win11 business class I got myself to learn Linux. About a quarter of the price of a new one and I still have extended support until spring 2026 from the manufacturer. It came as a nice bonus when I registered the laptop.
Not exactly to be expected in a post COVID world. There are a bunch of way overpriced, Win11 incompatible, business class towers/laptops on the used market right now.
Thank you Microsoft for standing firm on those Windows 11 requirements. It is because of those requirements that finally gave me the incentive to migrate out of the Windows environment. I've been a happy Linux Mint user for the last 6 months.
I did the same thing over a year ago, bounced around between LMDE, Fedora, Debian 12, went back to Fedora and i've been here ever since Fedora 39. Was using 38 for a couple weeks then 39 dropped. Never been happier :)
I suspect that Mint and Ubuntu will have a big uptick in downloads next October when Windows 10 is phased into a subscription service and thousands of activated PCs suddenly receive the pesky watermark in the corner of the desktop.
In recent days I download and burned discs for Ubuntu 24 and Mint 22. Ubuntu 24 for upgrading my under-used Ubuntu tower. And Mint to see if a good distro for my mother's laptop. The only time I've encountered OOTB issues, is when a PC/laptop has Broadcom LAN/WiFi chipsets. So, I'd use a D-Link USB WiFi stick.
Speaking of network compatibility, since the newer network drivers have been showing up in my Arch installation’s kernel module folder, I suspect that Ubuntu 25.04, Mint 23, and Debian 13 will be much more compatible with current-generation network hardware when they are officially released.
Yeah, we're already looking into rolling out Linux to gradually replace the Windows 10 systems as Microsoft tries to kill Windows 10. We can't go to Windows 11 with TPM, and even then the forcing of internet connectivity as creating local accounts is becoming more encumbered. Now they're talking about The Windows 11 OS delivering advertising...the OS itself is spamming the console?! We can't have our work interrupted by ads -- the only companies on our screens should be ours and our customers. Recall is a spy machine -- it's a pure security and confidentiality/privacy threat that isn't necessary and consumes lots of CPU time and internet bandwidth. And we thought all of this telemetry was bad, then they want this. Microsoft needs to go back to something like Windows 7, just take Windows 7 and modernize it, focus on compatibility so it can run 25 and 30 year-old software also.
I actually just tried PuppyLinux 10.0.9 on my Acer D270 (Atom N2600) that has Broadcom WiFi, and Puppylinux now has a Broadcom driver included. Worked first try. WiFi password and connected!
Also the userbase can't afford or justify replacing perfectly good computers, some of them nearly new! If it doesn't work on our systems where they are as they are, it's not going to be on those systems. Period. It's like a common-sense law of physics. However, Linux per-se does work on the systems, even the ten year-old ones.
Isn't it strange that the people who yap the loudest about protecting the environment are often the ones who have no problems impacting it when it benefits them. I've left the Microsoft plantation and my systems will not become e-waste, thus impacting the very environment they claim to care so much for.
I found that many "basic" photo editing tasks can be done in GIMP. If you're just embedding objects on top of each other, color balancing, or to remove that "red eye", GIMP works just fine. By the way, I installed and learned Audacity, GIMP, and Kdenlive IN WINDOWS, before migrating to Mint.
Gimp's UI can be a bear honestly. Eg. You just have to know to press enter to make a selection, no prompt or hint to the user. But it can do photo editing tasks the average user would need. I'd rather rely on it than photoshop since it's freeware and not something a greedy corporation can rip away from me.
Will be moving my unsupported laptop to Linux Mint on October 26 2025. Already been running a 15 year old Toshiba Satellite on Linux Mint with no problems....mouse and two printers connected without any problems....for 6 years now.
I thought that all of my Windows PCs that didn't meet the Windows 11 system requirements had died natural deaths. It turns out I still had one ancient dual core laptop, being used as a desktop, that didn't qualify. I replaced it with an inexpensive mini-PC. I wasn't sad to see it go. It had a good run, but it was time.
Apparently they are allowing unsupported systems now on Windows 11 ,but they make you agree to a disclaimer that they can't guarantee support and updates in the future.
As always, spot on Tom. Great job. Don’t forget to mention that the TPM module is not to ensure trusted software… It’s to ensure MS MAINTAINS CONTROL OVER THE user. MS doesn’t trust or permit the USER to do things MS doesn’t like..
What stops me from using Linux outside gaming is that most music software, particularly plug-ins for DAW, does not have Linux versions, but the absolute showstopper is cra ppy TTS on linux. The last versions of Debian/Ubuntu are better, it can actually read some menus and some command line slop, but I can't get it to read selection or clipboard which I mostly use, as well as I can't get it to read typed in text by words. Since I have poor vision, this is essential.
Heck, MS needs to double the hardware requirements. The more computers replaced the more computers on the used market. Prices go down so it will cost less to pick up another and possibly more powerful Linux box.
MS doubling down does not matter. Install a simple beginner friendly linux distro and never go back. Got a new Laptop for my father who is basically comp illiterate, installed linux mint on it, he never noticed that it's not Windows. I ind win10 ok (after removing as much of the spyware as possible), but 11 is a definite no go.
TPM seems to be required because of that Recall-feature and other AI-stuff. That is pretty much what a MS-employee said when he explained why TPM is awesome and useful: because of AI-powered features it is more important to use TPM to secure the system.
Hi Tom, I have a story that is EXACTLY what you were talking about. I am running a research computer that is a gen 5 i3 in a laptop from 2019 with NO TPM whatsoever. It is running a "gimmicked up" version of Windows 11 and I have been running and updating it for about a year with NO problems or issues at all. Today when I went to update it, it came back with a message that my current version of Windows was at end of support and I needed to upgrade, but it continued running Windows 11 normally, it just would not update anymore. Something to look into?
Yeah if you are on Windows 11 22h2 support has ended and now you have to use a work around to get Windows 11 24h2. The Builds or Feature upgrades are supported for 2 years. ..But really? just install Linux Mint and be done with this head ache.
I have a laptop from that era, but the wireless will not work on Linux. It is an old broadcom. FYI - I am in your state, I'll email you if I still have your address.
I just installed Linux Mint OS for two people over the weekend. I installed the Apps they wanted including Chrome and Edge, even set up the Browsers. Also included a video on how to use it, so they don't have to bother me. ..Basically, they don't have to do much hair pulling, I made it easy for them to get a good start.
04:52 - Oh right.... A moment of silence for all of those poor victims of theft whose storage drive was carefully extracted from their computers, and did not loose the whole device with it. Such a very common situation 🤣 TPM is just shady a.f, you don't control it, you don't know what's hard-coded in it and nobody should promote it's use.
I never understood why people ignore the fact that tpm doesn't protect anything if they take the whole computer, or why they think someone is going to take the time to remove the hard drive instead of taking the whole thing.
What Microsoft should do is mandate having a physical KeyPass USB tied to each registered copy of Windows 11. If downloaded digitally, make the user use a dedicated USB stick to have the KeyPass file on it during install and to mark it. At least then the user knows the drive in encrypted and the only access to it if corrupted is that KeyPass USB. Not an all-win solution, but better than how it is now.
Thank you for making so many people aware of this - does anyone have a link or article on Microsoft uploading the encryption keys to the cloud? I could not find articles from the last years on this topic
Gaming was an essential feature that I needed before becoming a Linux user. However, it is no longer wholly problematic on Linux thanks to Valve and the open source community. I have been test driving Proton gaming for the past couple of months and the experience has been satisfactory. I don't care about the KAC games.
Microsoft can try "forcing" me to buy new hardware as much as they like. My three PCs that currently run Windows 10 all do their jobs perfectly well. I have absolutely NO INTENTION WHATEVER of replacing them. One of them, I run offline. It will STAY running Windows 10 offline. I have absolutely no reason to want to "upgrade (?)" it to Windows 11, and lots or reasons not to. The other two are being upgraded to Linux. No way are my PCs going to become e-waste just because Almighty Microsoft said so. I made up my mind to do this years ago. Since then, Copilot/Recall has absolutely convinced me that I totally made the right decision.
Really in a nutshell TPM would be putting all of your eggs in one basket. I know there are ways to back up the keys in the TPM but is that reliable? Is it simple enough for an average user to do? We must consider these things. Also with Recall becoming a part of Windows for all of us one day switching to Linux seems to be a more and more worthwhile thing to try. If you have a spare computer you can install it on that and not have to worry about creating virtual machines. Then you can experiment with that and switch over when you feel confident that you are ready. Just keep good backups and don't keep them always attached to the computer. Hopefully then you still have them if anything goes wrong. I do not recommend using just USB thumb drives, SSDs or other flash based devices as your only backup since it is very likely that in a few years you will look back to that backup and find it corrupt. Flash memory is good for speed and all but don't trust it long term with your only backup whatever you do!!
My Surface Pro 4 cannot get Windows 11 and I'm furious because it's still in very good condition. Of course I cannot upgrade this thing to get the specs it needs, and I'm not sure Linux would run well since it's very custom and proprietary, so that perfectly working $3,000 laptop is going to be e-waste next year. Thank you very much Microsoft. My next laptop will be a generic brand so I can put Linux on it.
Yes, I have an ASUS ROG socket Am3+ that is not compatible with Windows 11 because it does not support TPM2.0 and I am thinking of giving it up and getting another PC so I will think about it for about 20 years then I will replace it with something new on which I will also install Linux Mint because it is my BIG love!!! If I did not write something clearly, I apologize, I do not speak English but I try to get by with GOOGLE Translator. Greetings from Romania.
you shouldnt be forced to use tpm 2 if you dont want it. i dont personally need features that that brings. paying for the security updates is essentially a scam (prolonging windows 11), so linux is the best option, unless you want to use windows 10 without security updates (which i personally cant recommend)
Microsoft doesn't seem to understand there are many of us (individuals and companies) who CANNOT budget replacing perfectly good machines with those with a TPM 2.0 motherboard. The time and money just isn't there. Also, Microsoft Recall is a huge security and confidentiality violation we can't accommodate -- we'd be sending our customer and internal operations data to Microsoft (and God knows who else). Lastly, we don't trust TPM, its an access control system we can't control -- an external entity or a module failure can lock us out of our own computer and our own data. It's Microsoft saying to us (Joe Pesci voice) "that's a nice computer with nice data, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it. However, we have a regular payment programs you can't refuse!"
I won't be contributing to eWaste when the device is perfectly functional. My laptop, according to Windows Update, is now getting closer to being force fed Win11. I'll see how my mother likes Mint before she wastes $$$ on a new laptop.
I started using Linux around spring this year and I was loving it, till I hit a major roadblock. My problem is gaming using Freesync and HDR in Linux doesn't work with HDMI 2.1 for reasons above my pay grade and everything I read about it, says it won't work. It's a deal breaker for me, because I'm not replacing my very pricey Samsung QN90A anytime soon and it doesn't a have a display port. I prefer Linux, but end up back in win10 for HDR content and gaming. If anyone has a solution? Please show me the way. GPU is a AMD Radeon XTX.
Unfortunately, Linux has too many issues with consistency and lackluster alternative software to be successful beyond a small percentage of the desktop market.
I'm probably going to keep a Windows 10 machine after it's at EoL, but I'll be keeping that offline. I'll only run software that doesn't depend on always on internet access. I have a couple of Windows 11 laptops, but once that gets to EoL, those will become Linux systems. (Mostly the sound drivers are the issue on a couple of them; since nobody has made them yet for Linux.) I need to learn to write drivers.
That is what I'm doing. I can only think of a handful of apps that I haven't looked for alternative yet. On my PC: AverMedia HDTV tuner for PVR like of OTA TV shows. Magic Movie Editor, for when I do lightweight video editing. On the laptop, I use a Huion Kamvas drawing tablet that needs a USB driver. All my gaming is console based, after nonstop PC upgrades became tiresome/expensive.
Ironically, Linux can save those e-waste computers. Microsoft's made-up technologies are causing these problems. Mac and Linux does not have these problems. Just with a Mac, every 7 years you have a nice shiny door shim/stop. I got one of those. 9 1/2 year old Mac is basically useless. Linux does not create it, just aging old hardware just gets upgraded as normal. No security technologies to worry about.
MS never said Win10 was going to be the last Windows. They meant the latest version, which was Win10 at a time, just poorly worded. What company would stop developing their product without planning ceasing to exist? You cannot stop developing software in the software world. That would be a suicide. And I am saying it as not a fan of Windows. Just let's not spread already debunked claims.
I think you have drank the koolaid... From 2015, a comment when The Verge asked Jerry Nixon about his comments: When I reached out to Microsoft about Nixon's comments, the company didn't dismiss them at all. "Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers," says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations." Here is the full article: www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
@@SwitchedtoLinux It's possible that Windows 10 was intended to stay as the last version but changed and Windows 11 was released for sale during the COVID-19 pandemic.
I don't understand all the hate for Windows 11. I tried it on Virtualbox. The clock, calendar and calculator are just as accurate as they've ever been. Er...that's about it.....
Let Microsoft do it, because Valve is rumored to be releasing their Arch based STEAM OS 3.0 to PC makers, and the public to use in the near future, and I'll just make a lot of cheap gaming computers from the e-waste to resale 🙂
I successfully installed Ubuntu on an old ThinkPad T530. I got another laptop and I'm going to put Fedora 40 on it. I'm going to try to use it for gaming. I still have a Windows 11 gaming laptop... and one day when it's obsolete, I'll put some Linux on it and use it for old school gaming and emulation. ⌨️
Good thing I still use Ubuntu which has been for 2 years. Because if you said Microsoft will not reduce requirements to allow people upgrade to Windows 11, the trust is done.
i main drive win 11 for a year, its miserable withou doing a lot of tweaks, win 11 feeels for mac users, very dumb down UI, as soon i find a way to make my 3d acceleration works on my old lenozo z480 that its my work pc im out of windows
Bought a couple of thinkpads dirt cheap because they won't "comply" with win 11. I really don't hate win10, but there you go. Will set up a linux drive in a few weeks and troubleshoot. A little later I'll do the other. I might also get a dirt cheap desktop. Goodbye to windows!
Welcome to Linux, which is Just Fine for Very many computer users. Linux is quite easy to use, secure and gets the job done very well indeed. I have been using it since Windows 7 and if I can do it then so can you.
After Windows 10 Support I will move fully over to Linux. I only use Windows 10 for some apps and games after October 2025, MS will lose the market for OS on desktop. You have Steam OS getting a lot better most Linux Distros are 80 - 90% compatible with most Steam games and non steam games. It is a shame Windows 10 had better compatibility just needed better kernel security, not some hardware scam to get 3rd party PC manufacturers to make more sales. No need for all this TPM 2.0 on Arm devices or Linux or Android or Mac OS. I am using better free FOSS alternatives either web based Apps or Installable apps on Linux and Android. GIMP has a new 3.0 beta build that has non destructible editing now and Photo Pea a free web based photoshop clone.
don't forget Windows 10 LTSC 2021 IoT will still get support until 2032 also AverMedia capture cards don't really work on Linux especially if they're Internal Capture Cards, heck AverMedia refuses to give me workin' Linux drivers for my old AverMedia C027 and heck they won't even give me drivers dat work passed Windows 10, keep in mind it's not a Windows issue, it's a AverMedia issue and it drives me nuts so no i can't really go to Linux fully just for reasons like those alone and last time i've checked, AverMedia is finicky with even Virtual Machines as well so i'm out of luck unless i have to fork up more money for a different capture to support Linux like friggin' Black Magic yea u didn't cover capture card situations with Linux
I have a AverMedia USB HDTV tuner that is one of the few things that ties me to Windows. That Win10 PC will just go off the Net and just be my OTA "PVR" system. Until ATSC 3.0 make the stick obsolete.
been windows free even in my work generally till recently put w11 on a desktop in my home... it was unuseable till I dug into settings hard and used ctt's winutil. even now its not great hahaha I LOVE my assorted linux rigs so so much more... THAT SAID. its handy to know the enemy XD
The migration has begun... Yesterday. It was so long since the last time I powered up my Acer D270-1044 (Atom N2600, upgraded 1GB to 2GB RAM and 320GB HDD to 250GB SSD with WIn10), that it took 13 password guesses to login (even with the login Hint). Windows Update kept getting stuck, so lets try Puppy Linux again. Hurray, Puppy Linux 10.0.9 x64 has Broadcom WiFi support! So, I wiped the SSD and installed PuppyLinux. Almost had it up an running the first try, but missed the GRUB/MBR step for the boot partition. So "Operating System Not Found". Booted off the CD again and fixed that and now have Puppy Linux on the D270.
I just made a custom lean and mean Windows 11 install for fun, and put it on an Intel 7500T. It's the way Microsoft should be making software, with no bloatware or ads.
If Linux wants to convert as many Windows users before October, it is imperative that we resolve the Wayland transition now: especially fractional scaling and device input lag. 2025 _could be_ the fabled "year of the linux desktop" we keep hearing about.
imo wayland shouldnt be the default until all commonly apps support it or use xwalyland to do so and have feature parody with x11. in obs you cant even do window capture under wayland but in x11 you can
You two must be living in the alternate universe known as Gnome. fractional scaling, device input(no lag), and obs window capture have been working on kde wayland for over 6 months now.
@@danwl9708 what gets me is that development of wayland goes back to 2008, and xorg is only 4 years older than that. how did we arrive here? it's like trading in your 1992 lamborghini diablo for a newer 1996 ford probe. just why?
You know, it's a bit crazy... If you went back in time and explained to the average somewhat savvy Windows XP user, what the future of Windows would be like, that being Windows 11... They would legitimately think you were describing malware to them. Sure, I'm primarily a Windows user and that's mostly due to a few creative hobbies that objectively have far better support for Windows, but for the past year, I have been attempting to use Linux Mint 21 / 22 for more and more tasks. Duel booting is a blessing, even if I would prefer it to be purely Linux. As an unbiased view, no, Linux isn't even close to being ready for an average user, and that really sucks, because Windows will eventually pull the lever labeled "holistic control". The options for a decent plug and play OS are fading super fast for a lot of people, and I'm thankful that I have what experience I do, to be ahead of it. Remember, laptops are a huge part of the market, and Linux is super hit or miss when it comes to needing specific models for your use case.
Same here. We have NO systems here that can support Windows 11, and we don't have the budget to buy them. So obviously we're not going to Windows 11. But every single one of them can run Ubuntu very well.
Is this going to make more people move to Apple I myself use a MacBook Air for programs I need for work, never going to use windows again all of our windows pcs use Linux now.
You who have never scrapped a computer throw the first stone. All computers ever made have eventually been scrapped (a museum is a scrap-yard too!) and every Linux computer operating today will be scrapped and long forgotten in 10 years time.
Windows 11 itself is not following Windows Update is committed to helping reduce carbon emissions when eWaste is clearly the PC itself not the updates if you got an OLD 1.2 TPM laptop or tower Sorry Windows OS is Faillng to committed to helping you as it sees you wanting an NEW PC we will double down to force you to get an NEW PC ---------------------------------------------------- 12:29 - 12:55 Thown away your old PC which still works Apple: Not like they trying to copy our IDEA making people thown away because they will not support it if Apple has renewed the tarms and allow Windows PC to run MacOS not breaking their tarms of use Bang Microsoft just thown people into MacOS or even Linux
I have a couple of problems moving to Linux I daily drove it for about 2 months (and I still use it for network stuff) but had to go back to windows on desktop because: 1. There are no Dell canvas drivers even though Linux supports Wacom cintiqs and the Dell one just being a rebranded cintiq (you can even use the Wacom drivers instead of the Dell ones on windows) 2. There's no sufficient autohotkey alternative (I haven't found a single one that let's you use the mouse buttons in combination with other keys) 3. No fancy zones alternatives, the closest Ive found was popos tiling thing, also kUbuntu has a very limited version of it that don't allow you to combine zones or activate them automatically. This is more or less essential if you have any vertical monitors. (on windows you can drop a window over 2 zones and the window will stretch and occupy both, Linux only allows you to drop it on one zone.
My problem is Excel spreadsheets... My bosses and co-workers are, mostly, already using Windows 11. As I won't do that, I think my only option will be to run WX on a VM inside Linux. By the way, your title "Windows Doubles Down on E-Waste" actually has the OPPOSITE meaning in British English = Microsoft will be working on REDUCING E-Waste"! You'd have to say "... Doubles Down on CREATING E-Waste... ... ... ". I was hopeful for a moment. Divided by a common language!
I think most users just open Chrome, play games, program some code, design some engineering 3d printed things and edit some videos ... if Linux handler this, then, he will get the whole market. The planets are in line, don't miss this chance ... again.😅
But most of those users don't install operating systems. At most they run updates and upgrades. That is, to some extent, an opportunity for a cottage industry of Linux support for normies, but once again they'd need to shell out some money to pay for the service, just less than for a new PC.
No most users don't do coding and 3d. Most just do browsing, youtube, email store photos and documents and some office. This can easily be done on Linux without the Commando Line😄😄😄
I don't see eWaste as a problem. The Chinese will get desperately needed jobs recycling and scraping the old systems and eBay will flood with cheap/rare parts for the retro PC hobbyist. Beside Apple pretty much does this every OS version for decades and nothing is ever said about them making eWaste.
I think this idea of causing ewaste is both hyperbolic and incredibly short sighted. Microsoft is taking a stand, putting a stake in the ground... The older CPUs and the older firmware platforms are simply outdated in multiple ways, chiefly in terms of security. All those older chips were vulnerable to speculative execution, and even with microcode would still be vulnerable to a lesser extent forever. These days new chips don't even have hyper threading to avoid the flaw completely, which took 8 years to happen. Trusted computing modules are really just a simplified way to ballpark the time frame when computers turned away from the more serious vulnerabilities. But it's not just security, there are performance gains that are simply not backwards compatible with older software. Things like using AVX instructions for standard libraries instead of older SSE instructions. At some point Microsoft needs to cut the crap, and deprecate the old slow or insecure technologies. Linux distros have been considering the same kind of things recently too, so it's not just Microsoft.
@Johnny-es9xg Take MacOs as example. They don't need to speak about Windows because they know who their are and what they can offer. When you try to sell your product using negatives features of others instead positive features of yourself, the success is limited. People think that you don't have much to offer.
Doing the windows workaround is insurmountable for the average people, when you just have to follow the guide. Few sentences later, somebody will give you a guide how to play that game on Linux... This is the problem, there have been big hopes for the big linux migration for many times now, but the majority of people just cannot be bothered. In questions on what computer to buy, one of the first criteria is to have a preinstalled (windows ofc) OS, when it's 100 times easier to install an os than fill out taxes or some normie stuff. I appreciate the videos, but I think anyone who stumbles into this subculture (and channel) already has a good idea about all of this, and those who need it will never see this.
Yeah, Switching to Linux is an option. But anyone who is your age or older and has never worked with Linux will have a hard time with even something as simple as putting movies on a USB. If all you ever want to do is browse the internet use an office program pick up email and print yeah no problem. Otherwise, the learning curve is steep without Windows compatibility.
Try watching the video or reading the pinned comment where I specifically addressed this. The second article in the video is the update from Microsoft, but it is a ruse.
@@NocturneSonate Then the next latest news : "Win 11 now requires a Blowjob from a child on first boot. Bill Gates says it's to improve user security."
To preempt the folks who might say I missed on the update, yes, I did see it, it is in the second article on this video.
They are "allowing", but with great restriction, and in a way that looks very temporary. Also, unless it is a mere checkbox an people still need to go through the registry edits (I didn't look into the full upgrade without requirements process), it is still a barrier. Also, the constant nags will get their point across anyway.
All that being said, let me know your thoughts!
Microsoft launched a new update unsupported systems can run windows 11😂😂😂 according to britech channel many think its response to losing clients to linux and steam 😉
There are still NO GUARANTEES that you will get updates (including those for security) going down the unsupported route. Whatever, I don't trust Microsoft at all. They are running scared.
Unless they give a button or a path that people can easily upgrade to Windows 11, this will not help the majority user. Its all about nothing.
@@FraterSorax bro this guy here just made a similar video LOL
Switched to linux 6 weeks ago....Recall was the main motivation to leave Win 11...my PC was Win 11 compatible.
eWaste isn't the point, the whole point is encrypting your hard drive and controlling the keys. Too many people forget that the first requirement for a subscription system is controlling access to the product. They can't make Windows a subscription service unless they can turn it off when people don't pay. Encrypting your data so it can only be unlocked by their key gives them the whip hand. This is not a mistake or for user security. It's all about getting rid of the computers they can't lock against their owners so they can transition to some form of recurring payment model.
Sounds like a violation of antitrust law. You cannot use your market dominance to price gouge your consumers. It is illegal.
The first red flag is making it hard to make a local account.
@@leonidas14775 yep, that's one of the reasons I switched to Linux as soon as I had a computer that could run Windows 11.
You will own NOTHING and be happy
This is correct. As the guy who made Windows 11 Must Be Stopped, I approve of this comment.
I guess that means there should be good deals on the used laptop market in about a year. Plenty of candidates for upgrading to linux.
This also applies to old Macs that don't receive updates anymore. And even Ubuntu runs smoother on a Mac than Mac OS.
I got a great second hand deal already this year, and it was Win11 business class I got myself to learn Linux. About a quarter of the price of a new one and I still have extended support until spring 2026 from the manufacturer. It came as a nice bonus when I registered the laptop.
Not exactly to be expected in a post COVID world. There are a bunch of way overpriced, Win11 incompatible, business class towers/laptops on the used market right now.
I have TPM 2.0 and secure boot however my laptop is not supposedly supported by Windows 11 it’s strictly the processor
Thank you Microsoft for standing firm on those Windows 11 requirements. It is because of those requirements that finally gave me the incentive to migrate out of the Windows environment. I've been a happy Linux Mint user for the last 6 months.
Amen and same.
Same too.
Welcome to the crew. *Offers a handshake*
@@WilliamShinal Well thank you! Good to be here.
I did the same thing over a year ago, bounced around between LMDE, Fedora, Debian 12, went back to Fedora and i've been here ever since Fedora 39. Was using 38 for a couple weeks then 39 dropped. Never been happier :)
I suspect that Mint and Ubuntu will have a big uptick in downloads next October when Windows 10 is phased into a subscription service and thousands of activated PCs suddenly receive the pesky watermark in the corner of the desktop.
In recent days I download and burned discs for Ubuntu 24 and Mint 22. Ubuntu 24 for upgrading my under-used Ubuntu tower. And Mint to see if a good distro for my mother's laptop.
The only time I've encountered OOTB issues, is when a PC/laptop has Broadcom LAN/WiFi chipsets. So, I'd use a D-Link USB WiFi stick.
Speaking of network compatibility, since the newer network drivers have been showing up in my Arch installation’s kernel module folder, I suspect that Ubuntu 25.04, Mint 23, and Debian 13 will be much more compatible with current-generation network hardware when they are officially released.
Yeah, we're already looking into rolling out Linux to gradually replace the Windows 10 systems as Microsoft tries to kill Windows 10. We can't go to Windows 11 with TPM, and even then the forcing of internet connectivity as creating local accounts is becoming more encumbered. Now they're talking about The Windows 11 OS delivering advertising...the OS itself is spamming the console?! We can't have our work interrupted by ads -- the only companies on our screens should be ours and our customers. Recall is a spy machine -- it's a pure security and confidentiality/privacy threat that isn't necessary and consumes lots of CPU time and internet bandwidth. And we thought all of this telemetry was bad, then they want this. Microsoft needs to go back to something like Windows 7, just take Windows 7 and modernize it, focus on compatibility so it can run 25 and 30 year-old software also.
I actually just tried PuppyLinux 10.0.9 on my Acer D270 (Atom N2600) that has Broadcom WiFi, and Puppylinux now has a Broadcom driver included. Worked first try. WiFi password and connected!
Newsflash to MICROSOFT, your userbase that is tired of your bullshit is going to Linux. THAT is NON-NEGOTIABLE.
Also the userbase can't afford or justify replacing perfectly good computers, some of them nearly new! If it doesn't work on our systems where they are as they are, it's not going to be on those systems. Period. It's like a common-sense law of physics. However, Linux per-se does work on the systems, even the ten year-old ones.
Barfingerbi= RUclips office employee?get out of the fake ms shill
Or going to MacOS or some other lesser known non-linux os.
Isn't it strange that the people who yap the loudest about protecting the environment are often the ones who have no problems impacting it when it benefits them. I've left the Microsoft plantation and my systems will not become e-waste, thus impacting the very environment they claim to care so much for.
I found that many "basic" photo editing tasks can be done in GIMP. If you're just embedding objects on top of each other, color balancing, or to remove that "red eye", GIMP works just fine. By the way, I installed and learned Audacity, GIMP, and Kdenlive IN WINDOWS, before migrating to Mint.
You did it all the right way, enjoy!!
Good work!
Is Kdenlive good? I never really used any video editor and wanna try one (my other option is Shotcut)
Gimp's UI can be a bear honestly. Eg. You just have to know to press enter to make a selection, no prompt or hint to the user. But it can do photo editing tasks the average user would need. I'd rather rely on it than photoshop since it's freeware and not something a greedy corporation can rip away from me.
@@RomanAvdeevX both the ones you mentioned are good, need something easier, try Openshot easy interface.
14:57 you can actually access and watch Peacock from the web browser actually.
All windows want is to collect and sell our information. That's the bottom line.
wouldn't Windows still get lots of info to sell without doing Windows 11 and with far less backlash though?
@vinsonli302 recall gets everything(banking)
@@jameswubbolt7787 Microsoft decided it was worth it despite the backlash then? noted.
Will be moving my unsupported laptop to Linux Mint on October 26 2025.
Already been running a 15 year old Toshiba Satellite on Linux Mint with no problems....mouse and two printers connected without any problems....for 6 years now.
I thought that all of my Windows PCs that didn't meet the Windows 11 system requirements had died natural deaths. It turns out I still had one ancient dual core laptop, being used as a desktop, that didn't qualify. I replaced it with an inexpensive mini-PC. I wasn't sad to see it go. It had a good run, but it was time.
Apparently they are allowing unsupported systems now on Windows 11 ,but they make you agree to a disclaimer that they can't guarantee support and updates in the future.
I'm cool with that.
I'm looking forward to the year when perfectly functional newish second-hand computers are available cheap!
8:08 Yeah, I just want my operating system to get out of my way and let me get to business. The more I notice my OS, the worse a job its doing
As always, spot on Tom. Great job. Don’t forget to mention that the TPM module is not to ensure trusted software… It’s to ensure MS MAINTAINS CONTROL OVER THE user. MS doesn’t trust or permit the USER to do things MS doesn’t like..
What stops me from using Linux outside gaming is that most music software, particularly plug-ins for DAW, does not have Linux versions, but the absolute showstopper is cra ppy TTS on linux. The last versions of Debian/Ubuntu are better, it can actually read some menus and some command line slop, but I can't get it to read selection or clipboard which I mostly use, as well as I can't get it to read typed in text by words. Since I have poor vision, this is essential.
Heck, MS needs to double the hardware requirements. The more computers replaced the more computers on the used market. Prices go down so it will cost less to pick up another and possibly more powerful Linux box.
MS doubling down does not matter. Install a simple beginner friendly linux distro and never go back.
Got a new Laptop for my father who is basically comp illiterate, installed linux mint on it, he never noticed that it's not Windows.
I ind win10 ok (after removing as much of the spyware as possible), but 11 is a definite no go.
TPM seems to be required because of that Recall-feature and other AI-stuff. That is pretty much what a MS-employee said when he explained why TPM is awesome and useful: because of AI-powered features it is more important to use TPM to secure the system.
Hi Tom, I have a story that is EXACTLY what you were talking about. I am running a research computer that is a gen 5 i3 in a laptop from 2019 with NO TPM whatsoever. It is running a "gimmicked up" version of Windows 11 and I have been running and updating it for about a year with NO problems or issues at all. Today when I went to update it, it came back with a message that my current version of Windows was at end of support and I needed to upgrade, but it continued running Windows 11 normally, it just would not update anymore. Something to look into?
Yeah if you are on Windows 11 22h2 support has ended and now you have to use a work around to get Windows 11 24h2. The Builds or Feature upgrades are supported for 2 years. ..But really? just install Linux Mint and be done with this head ache.
I have a laptop from that era, but the wireless will not work on Linux. It is an old broadcom.
FYI - I am in your state, I'll email you if I still have your address.
Zorin OS would be a great choice for Windows 10 users that can not run Windows 11!
using it right now - and love it :D
Awesome to be a Linux user on the second hand market! 🤠
I just installed Linux Mint OS for two people over the weekend. I installed the Apps they wanted including Chrome and Edge, even set up the Browsers. Also included a video on how to use it, so they don't have to bother me. ..Basically, they don't have to do much hair pulling, I made it easy for them to get a good start.
04:52 - Oh right.... A moment of silence for all of those poor victims of theft whose storage drive was carefully extracted from their computers, and did not loose the whole device with it. Such a very common situation 🤣
TPM is just shady a.f, you don't control it, you don't know what's hard-coded in it and nobody should promote it's use.
I never understood why people ignore the fact that tpm doesn't protect anything if they take the whole computer, or why they think someone is going to take the time to remove the hard drive instead of taking the whole thing.
@@red5355dragon TPM is just microshit's excuse to steal your passwords before anyone else can.
It's not just the TPM. I have a TPM chip but can't upgrade because of an unsupported processor
What Microsoft should do is mandate having a physical KeyPass USB tied to each registered copy of Windows 11. If downloaded digitally, make the user use a dedicated USB stick to have the KeyPass file on it during install and to mark it. At least then the user knows the drive in encrypted and the only access to it if corrupted is that KeyPass USB. Not an all-win solution, but better than how it is now.
@16:37 Evolution has a plugin that lets you import MS Outlook archives.
Better off switching to Linux Mint on older computers.
Thank you for making so many people aware of this - does anyone have a link or article on Microsoft uploading the encryption keys to the cloud? I could not find articles from the last years on this topic
support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-e63607b4-77fb-4ad3-8022-d6dc428fbd0d
support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/back-up-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-e63607b4-77fb-4ad3-8022-d6dc428fbd0d
www.thewindowsclub.com/microsoft-windows-10-device-encryption-key
Only just realized my audio interface is no longer supported the other day. Can't even find the drivers anymore. It worked fine. :(
Gaming was an essential feature that I needed before becoming a Linux user. However, it is no longer wholly problematic on Linux thanks to Valve and the open source community. I have been test driving Proton gaming for the past couple of months and the experience has been satisfactory. I don't care about the KAC games.
Sorry Tom, The Laptop I am running, as an experiment only is from 2015 not 2019, Sorry for the confusion.
Microsoft can try "forcing" me to buy new hardware as much as they like. My three PCs that currently run Windows 10 all do their jobs perfectly well. I have absolutely NO INTENTION WHATEVER of replacing them. One of them, I run offline. It will STAY running Windows 10 offline. I have absolutely no reason to want to "upgrade (?)" it to Windows 11, and lots or reasons not to. The other two are being upgraded to Linux. No way are my PCs going to become e-waste just because Almighty Microsoft said so.
I made up my mind to do this years ago. Since then, Copilot/Recall has absolutely convinced me that I totally made the right decision.
Really in a nutshell TPM would be putting all of your eggs in one basket. I know there are ways to back up the keys in the TPM but is that reliable? Is it simple enough for an average user to do? We must consider these things. Also with Recall becoming a part of Windows for all of us one day switching to Linux seems to be a more and more worthwhile thing to try. If you have a spare computer you can install it on that and not have to worry about creating virtual machines. Then you can experiment with that and switch over when you feel confident that you are ready. Just keep good backups and don't keep them always attached to the computer. Hopefully then you still have them if anything goes wrong. I do not recommend using just USB thumb drives, SSDs or other flash based devices as your only backup since it is very likely that in a few years you will look back to that backup and find it corrupt. Flash memory is good for speed and all but don't trust it long term with your only backup whatever you do!!
But now they will let you install it on none supported devices but go screw yourself when you need support.
My Surface Pro 4 cannot get Windows 11 and I'm furious because it's still in very good condition. Of course I cannot upgrade this thing to get the specs it needs, and I'm not sure Linux would run well since it's very custom and proprietary, so that perfectly working $3,000 laptop is going to be e-waste next year. Thank you very much Microsoft. My next laptop will be a generic brand so I can put Linux on it.
Yes, I have an ASUS ROG socket Am3+ that is not compatible with Windows 11 because it does not support TPM2.0 and I am thinking of giving it up and getting another PC so I will think about it for about 20 years then I will replace it with something new on which I will also install Linux Mint because it is my BIG love!!! If I did not write something clearly, I apologize, I do not speak English but I try to get by with GOOGLE Translator. Greetings from Romania.
you shouldnt be forced to use tpm 2 if you dont want it. i dont personally need features that that brings. paying for the security updates is essentially a scam (prolonging windows 11), so linux is the best option, unless you want to use windows 10 without security updates (which i personally cant recommend)
Microsoft doesn't seem to understand there are many of us (individuals and companies) who CANNOT budget replacing perfectly good machines with those with a TPM 2.0 motherboard. The time and money just isn't there. Also, Microsoft Recall is a huge security and confidentiality violation we can't accommodate -- we'd be sending our customer and internal operations data to Microsoft (and God knows who else). Lastly, we don't trust TPM, its an access control system we can't control -- an external entity or a module failure can lock us out of our own computer and our own data. It's Microsoft saying to us (Joe Pesci voice) "that's a nice computer with nice data, it'd be a shame if anything happened to it. However, we have a regular payment programs you can't refuse!"
Don't waste anymore money on Micro$oft, please switch to Linux, you won't regret it, it's really good and fast, even on older hardware.
I won't be contributing to eWaste when the device is perfectly functional. My laptop, according to Windows Update, is now getting closer to being force fed Win11.
I'll see how my mother likes Mint before she wastes $$$ on a new laptop.
I started using Linux around spring this year and I was loving it, till I hit a major roadblock. My problem is gaming using Freesync and HDR in Linux doesn't work with HDMI 2.1 for reasons above my pay grade and everything I read about it, says it won't work. It's a deal breaker for me, because I'm not replacing my very pricey Samsung QN90A anytime soon and it doesn't a have a display port. I prefer Linux, but end up back in win10 for HDR content and gaming. If anyone has a solution? Please show me the way. GPU is a AMD Radeon XTX.
Unfortunately, Linux has too many issues with consistency and lackluster alternative software to be successful beyond a small percentage of the desktop market.
I'm probably going to keep a Windows 10 machine after it's at EoL, but I'll be keeping that offline. I'll only run software that doesn't depend on always on internet access. I have a couple of Windows 11 laptops, but once that gets to EoL, those will become Linux systems. (Mostly the sound drivers are the issue on a couple of them; since nobody has made them yet for Linux.) I need to learn to write drivers.
That is what I'm doing. I can only think of a handful of apps that I haven't looked for alternative yet. On my PC: AverMedia HDTV tuner for PVR like of OTA TV shows. Magic Movie Editor, for when I do lightweight video editing. On the laptop, I use a Huion Kamvas drawing tablet that needs a USB driver.
All my gaming is console based, after nonstop PC upgrades became tiresome/expensive.
Ironically, Linux can save those e-waste computers. Microsoft's made-up technologies are causing these problems. Mac and Linux does not have these problems. Just with a Mac, every 7 years you have a nice shiny door shim/stop. I got one of those. 9 1/2 year old Mac is basically useless. Linux does not create it, just aging old hardware just gets upgraded as normal. No security technologies to worry about.
How's USB devices firmware update through virtual box?
MS never said Win10 was going to be the last Windows. They meant the latest version, which was Win10 at a time, just poorly worded. What company would stop developing their product without planning ceasing to exist? You cannot stop developing software in the software world. That would be a suicide. And I am saying it as not a fan of Windows. Just let's not spread already debunked claims.
I think you have drank the koolaid...
From 2015, a comment when The Verge asked Jerry Nixon about his comments:
When I reached out to Microsoft about Nixon's comments, the company didn't dismiss them at all. "Recent comments at Ignite about Windows 10 are reflective of the way Windows will be delivered as a service bringing new innovations and updates in an ongoing manner, with continuous value for our consumer and business customers," says a Microsoft spokesperson in a statement to The Verge. "We aren’t speaking to future branding at this time, but customers can be confident Windows 10 will remain up-to-date and power a variety of devices from PCs to phones to Surface Hub to HoloLens and Xbox. We look forward to a long future of Windows innovations."
Here is the full article:
www.theverge.com/2015/5/7/8568473/windows-10-last-version-of-windows
@@SwitchedtoLinux It's possible that Windows 10 was intended to stay as the last version but changed and Windows 11 was released for sale during the COVID-19 pandemic.
I don't understand all the hate for Windows 11. I tried it on Virtualbox. The clock, calendar and calculator are just as accurate as they've ever been. Er...that's about it.....
How about getting a good anti virus program to replace defender and keep using your computer Windows 10?
Let Microsoft do it, because Valve is rumored to be releasing their Arch based STEAM OS 3.0 to PC makers, and the public to use in the near future, and I'll just make a lot of cheap gaming computers from the e-waste to resale 🙂
I successfully installed Ubuntu on an old ThinkPad T530. I got another laptop and I'm going to put Fedora 40 on it. I'm going to try to use it for gaming. I still have a Windows 11 gaming laptop... and one day when it's obsolete, I'll put some Linux on it and use it for old school gaming and emulation. ⌨️
Good thing I still use Ubuntu which has been for 2 years.
Because if you said Microsoft will not reduce requirements to allow people upgrade to Windows 11, the trust is done.
i main drive win 11 for a year, its miserable withou doing a lot of tweaks, win 11 feeels for mac users, very dumb down UI, as soon i find a way to make my 3d acceleration works on my old lenozo z480 that its my work pc im out of windows
Bought a couple of thinkpads dirt cheap because they won't "comply" with win 11. I really don't hate win10, but there you go. Will set up a linux drive in a few weeks and troubleshoot. A little later I'll do the other. I might also get a dirt cheap desktop. Goodbye to windows!
Remember windows xp ahhh...
Fondly. However, here we don't have to remember it, we've got some isolated systems that still use it!
@BarfingGerbil AWESOME! keep windows xp alive!
Welcome to Linux, which is Just Fine for Very many computer users. Linux is quite easy to use, secure and gets the job done very well indeed. I have been using it since Windows 7 and if I can do it then so can you.
TPM 2.0 also introduces a unique identifier for your computer so Big Brother can tell who posted what by querying it.
After Windows 10 Support I will move fully over to Linux. I only use Windows 10 for some apps and games after October 2025, MS will lose the market for OS on desktop. You have Steam OS getting a lot better most Linux Distros are 80 - 90% compatible with most Steam games and non steam games. It is a shame Windows 10 had better compatibility just needed better kernel security, not some hardware scam to get 3rd party PC manufacturers to make more sales. No need for all this TPM 2.0 on Arm devices or Linux or Android or Mac OS. I am using better free FOSS alternatives either web based Apps or Installable apps on Linux and Android. GIMP has a new 3.0 beta build that has non destructible editing now and Photo Pea a free web based photoshop clone.
don't forget Windows 10 LTSC 2021 IoT will still get support until 2032
also AverMedia capture cards don't really work on Linux especially if they're Internal Capture Cards, heck AverMedia refuses to give me workin' Linux drivers for my old AverMedia C027 and heck they won't even give me drivers dat work passed Windows 10, keep in mind it's not a Windows issue, it's a AverMedia issue and it drives me nuts so no i can't really go to Linux fully just for reasons like those alone and last time i've checked, AverMedia is finicky with even Virtual Machines as well so i'm out of luck unless i have to fork up more money for a different capture to support Linux like friggin' Black Magic
yea u didn't cover capture card situations with Linux
I have a AverMedia USB HDTV tuner that is one of the few things that ties me to Windows. That Win10 PC will just go off the Net and just be my OTA "PVR" system. Until ATSC 3.0 make the stick obsolete.
Good luck, people have lost big money using shady scripts to activate it.
@@HOBBS-4 do u have better solutions instead of lettin my AverMedia capture cards rot aside from getting different capture cards?
@@KWHCoaster i need my dedicated streaming PC to stream
@@blakedmc1989RaveHD yeah, sell that capture card and buy one that works on Linux and that goes for any other device/excuse you may come up with Lmao!
YAY more real cheap good running systems for me to put Mint on .. already see I9 Imac's for under $200 on ebay
been windows free even in my work generally till recently put w11 on a desktop in my home... it was unuseable till I dug into settings hard and used ctt's winutil. even now its not great hahaha I LOVE my assorted linux rigs so so much more... THAT SAID. its handy to know the enemy XD
The migration has begun...
Yesterday. It was so long since the last time I powered up my Acer D270-1044 (Atom N2600, upgraded 1GB to 2GB RAM and 320GB HDD to 250GB SSD with WIn10), that it took 13 password guesses to login (even with the login Hint). Windows Update kept getting stuck, so lets try Puppy Linux again. Hurray, Puppy Linux 10.0.9 x64 has Broadcom WiFi support! So, I wiped the SSD and installed PuppyLinux. Almost had it up an running the first try, but missed the GRUB/MBR step for the boot partition. So "Operating System Not Found". Booted off the CD again and fixed that and now have Puppy Linux on the D270.
I just made a custom lean and mean Windows 11 install for fun, and put it on an Intel 7500T. It's the way Microsoft should be making software, with no bloatware or ads.
If Linux wants to convert as many Windows users before October, it is imperative that we resolve the Wayland transition now: especially fractional scaling and device input lag.
2025 _could be_ the fabled "year of the linux desktop" we keep hearing about.
imo wayland shouldnt be the default until all commonly apps support it or use xwalyland to do so and have feature parody with x11. in obs you cant even do window capture under wayland but in x11 you can
You two must be living in the alternate universe known as Gnome. fractional scaling, device input(no lag), and obs window capture have been working on kde wayland for over 6 months now.
@@danwl9708 what gets me is that development of wayland goes back to 2008, and xorg is only 4 years older than that. how did we arrive here? it's like trading in your 1992 lamborghini diablo for a newer 1996 ford probe. just why?
@@red5355dragon hell no. i would rather use Windows than GNOME. GNOME is the grossest and most anti-consumer DEs ever written.
@@red5355dragon no. i'd rather adopt windows 11 than mess with GNOME.
Government should step in and charge MSFT $500 for every PC e-wasted.
I'll just keep running Win 10 until I switch to Linux, Win 11 isn't getting anywhere near my machines.
screw microsoft, you can trust them
More shite from MS. I decide whether I want my HD encrypted or not.
Windows needs to fade away faster...its an slow decadence. .
Do you think Epic Games will support Linux after next year? 🤔
Once Linux reaches 10% of world wide PC use, much much more will be supported. This is why we are pushing Linux in comments in a nice way.
@HOBBS-44 I hope so, I would like to avoid desktop advertisements as much as possible and enjoy games on my PC.
my Windows 10 Desktop PC's lack of TPM can make me consider changing it's OS into Linux
You know, it's a bit crazy... If you went back in time and explained to the average somewhat savvy Windows XP user, what the future of Windows would be like, that being Windows 11... They would legitimately think you were describing malware to them. Sure, I'm primarily a Windows user and that's mostly due to a few creative hobbies that objectively have far better support for Windows, but for the past year, I have been attempting to use Linux Mint 21 / 22 for more and more tasks. Duel booting is a blessing, even if I would prefer it to be purely Linux. As an unbiased view, no, Linux isn't even close to being ready for an average user, and that really sucks, because Windows will eventually pull the lever labeled "holistic control". The options for a decent plug and play OS are fading super fast for a lot of people, and I'm thankful that I have what experience I do, to be ahead of it.
Remember, laptops are a huge part of the market, and Linux is super hit or miss when it comes to needing specific models for your use case.
theyre requirements are arbitrary and its annoying. they just phase out hardware cause they can.
None of my computers officially support Windows 11. Thankfully they all run Ubuntu great
Same here. We have NO systems here that can support Windows 11, and we don't have the budget to buy them. So obviously we're not going to Windows 11. But every single one of them can run Ubuntu very well.
Is this going to make more people move to Apple I myself use a MacBook Air for programs I need for work, never going to use windows again all of our windows pcs use Linux now.
You who have never scrapped a computer throw the first stone. All computers ever made have eventually been scrapped (a museum is a scrap-yard too!) and every Linux computer operating today will be scrapped and long forgotten in 10 years time.
I have never actually scrapped a functional computer.
@@SwitchedtoLinux You just left it to gather dust in the attic. Ha Ha Ha.
Windows 11 itself is not following
Windows Update is committed to helping reduce carbon emissions when eWaste is clearly the PC itself not the updates
if you got an OLD 1.2 TPM laptop or tower
Sorry Windows OS is Faillng to committed to helping you as it sees you wanting an NEW PC we will double down to force you to get an NEW PC
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12:29 - 12:55
Thown away your old PC which still works
Apple: Not like they trying to copy our IDEA making people thown away because they will not support it
if Apple has renewed the tarms and allow Windows PC to run MacOS not breaking their tarms of use
Bang Microsoft just thown people into MacOS or even Linux
I have a couple of problems moving to Linux I daily drove it for about 2 months (and I still use it for network stuff) but had to go back to windows on desktop because:
1. There are no Dell canvas drivers even though Linux supports Wacom cintiqs and the Dell one just being a rebranded cintiq (you can even use the Wacom drivers instead of the Dell ones on windows)
2. There's no sufficient autohotkey alternative (I haven't found a single one that let's you use the mouse buttons in combination with other keys)
3. No fancy zones alternatives, the closest Ive found was popos tiling thing, also kUbuntu has a very limited version of it that don't allow you to combine zones or activate them automatically. This is more or less essential if you have any vertical monitors. (on windows you can drop a window over 2 zones and the window will stretch and occupy both, Linux only allows you to drop it on one zone.
I have an Android phone which I like but bc of the Google/Samsung bloatware I will not upgrade.
My problem is Excel spreadsheets... My bosses and co-workers are, mostly, already using Windows 11. As I won't do that, I think my only option will be to run WX on a VM inside Linux. By the way, your title "Windows Doubles Down on E-Waste" actually has the OPPOSITE meaning in British English = Microsoft will be working on REDUCING E-Waste"! You'd have to say "... Doubles Down on CREATING E-Waste... ... ... ". I was hopeful for a moment. Divided by a common language!
excel spreadsheets shouldnt be a problem unless there's macro-enabled spreadsheets, they seem to make libreoffice crash (at least when i last tried)
I think most users just open Chrome, play games, program some code, design some engineering 3d printed things and edit some videos ... if Linux handler this, then, he will get the whole market. The planets are in line, don't miss this chance ... again.😅
But most of those users don't install operating systems. At most they run updates and upgrades. That is, to some extent, an opportunity for a cottage industry of Linux support for normies, but once again they'd need to shell out some money to pay for the service, just less than for a new PC.
No most users don't do coding and 3d. Most just do browsing, youtube, email store photos and documents and some office. This can easily be done on Linux without the Commando Line😄😄😄
I use AndroidOS, with free MS Office.😊
Free upgrades.
So, just did some research and Linux does a crappy job of supporting Steam games. Hard pass on Linux. Nice true little guy
Where did you search? Windows forums? Steam gaming is literally BUILT on Linux, Arch Linux to be exact. You are 100% completely and totally wrong.
I don't see eWaste as a problem. The Chinese will get desperately needed jobs recycling and scraping the old systems and eBay will flood with cheap/rare parts for the retro PC hobbyist. Beside Apple pretty much does this every OS version for decades and nothing is ever said about them making eWaste.
remove the AI junk and spyware and I MIGHT try win 11...
but as long those junk exist within win11...
get bent.
Come on Linux make it easy to swap just sell Linux mint on a cheep thumb drive with instructions to install!!
I think this idea of causing ewaste is both hyperbolic and incredibly short sighted. Microsoft is taking a stand, putting a stake in the ground... The older CPUs and the older firmware platforms are simply outdated in multiple ways, chiefly in terms of security. All those older chips were vulnerable to speculative execution, and even with microcode would still be vulnerable to a lesser extent forever. These days new chips don't even have hyper threading to avoid the flaw completely, which took 8 years to happen. Trusted computing modules are really just a simplified way to ballpark the time frame when computers turned away from the more serious vulnerabilities. But it's not just security, there are performance gains that are simply not backwards compatible with older software. Things like using AVX instructions for standard libraries instead of older SSE instructions. At some point Microsoft needs to cut the crap, and deprecate the old slow or insecure technologies. Linux distros have been considering the same kind of things recently too, so it's not just Microsoft.
That's the definition of fear mongering.
This is not a Linux channel, it's a Windows and Microsoft channel.
How do you get people to switch to Linux. Tell them how much windows sucks. That is what he is doing.
@Johnny-es9xg Take MacOs as example. They don't need to speak about Windows because they know who their are and what they can offer. When you try to sell your product using negatives features of others instead positive features of yourself, the success is limited. People think that you don't have much to offer.
Am i right?
Why i dont watch his vids its because he just talks about windows/M$ and does not cover anything much linux.
Doing the windows workaround is insurmountable for the average people, when you just have to follow the guide. Few sentences later, somebody will give you a guide how to play that game on Linux... This is the problem, there have been big hopes for the big linux migration for many times now, but the majority of people just cannot be bothered. In questions on what computer to buy, one of the first criteria is to have a preinstalled (windows ofc) OS, when it's 100 times easier to install an os than fill out taxes or some normie stuff. I appreciate the videos, but I think anyone who stumbles into this subculture (and channel) already has a good idea about all of this, and those who need it will never see this.
It will cause lots of people to stop using a computer and just use a 5G cellphone.
I mainly use my PC for gaming...sadly Linux isn't for me.
Yeah, Switching to Linux is an option. But anyone who is your age or older and has never worked with Linux will have a hard time with even something as simple as putting movies on a USB. If all you ever want to do is browse the internet use an office program pick up email and print yeah no problem. Otherwise, the learning curve is steep without Windows compatibility.
This video is late to the game. Microsoft has already changed their stance on unsupported hardware.
Try watching the video or reading the pinned comment where I specifically addressed this. The second article in the video is the update from Microsoft, but it is a ruse.
@@SwitchedtoLinux Try titling your videos according to the latest news.
@@NocturneSonate Then the next latest news : "Win 11 now requires a Blowjob from a child on first boot. Bill Gates says it's to improve user security."