Yes, I even heard Microsoft claims it now lets you install Windows 11 on unsupported devices and Microsoft lied. You still can't install it but using Windows 10 will payment to extend supports is recommended (Which it's a waste a money).
And only a couple years old too! Not even really old. Lightly used. My laptop with a 960m and an i7 in the 6000 series is really old. Gotta get them before the flippers do and artificially jack up the price. Can probably get something circa 2020 for a couple Hondos this year
Unfortunately, these days, Linux can also be its own worst enemy, especially those that are militant woke, not to mention the organizations that are supposed to be investing into Linux continually make the linux kernel the least prioritized thing they financially support while putting the majority of the money into who knows what non-linux projects. Then there's another major linux organization that's basically going bankrupt, and various distros telling potential users of their distro that they don't want them because anyone not as far left as them is a litter 'Yahtzee' that should not be alive, and definitely shouldn't be using their Linux distro.
Still, that's a weak proposition. You want people flocking to your operating system based on what's good in that system, rather than something that is bad in another system.
If I may ask which app? I've had to flst install office on popos which is a thing with play on Linux. It's always nice to learn about the sticking and pain points
@@Anyfantis0 wine doesn't always work. There are known troublesome apps. Though a VM should be a stopgap, while you figure how to stop using the troublesome app.
When I bought my refurbished desktop that came with Winshit 10, the first time I booted it was with a Linux Mint USB in the port, which I promptly installed.
Rushing is definitely a bad idea. In my switching to Mint this year, I learned Audacity, GIMP, and Kdenlive on my WINDOWS machine over a few months. THEN, I went over to Linux Mint. Took a lot of the stress out.
FYI I'm using an older Photoshop on my Mint running Virtual Machine (with no internet allowed). This is a newer PC, but it runs like a charm. I only started learning editing a year ago, and yes, Kdenlive is more pleasant to use than Adobe Premiere. And it's FREE. Switching to Linux is VERY painless now.
@@Grogeous_Maximus there's something that mimics photoshop called photopea that runs in the browser and works pretty decently from a vid i saw. i don't have personal experience using it because i use krita but thought i'd mention it in case its helpful as another alternative
Windows 11 causes more problems that never end. It is the worst version of Windows ever. There is one simple solution to all of this. Get away from Windows 11 and switch to Linux. Problem solved.
Cool to see a comment from the legendary Andrea Borman! Hope you can do a review of the new XFCE 4.20 and Solus XFCE (still a Beta, but is fast, light and stable!) (Posted on Wed 18 Dec 2024 at 18:26 UTC)
Agreed. I have an old PC here that does not support Win 11. I installed Win 11 as a Win 10 / 11 dual boot system back when Win 11 fist came out. It worked fine until I upgraded to 24h2. It was a dog. Last weekend I restored my 23h2 image file and now all well again.
I stopped using Windows at home when support for Windows 7 ended but work still gave me a laptop with Windows 10 on it - which I just "endured" and only used for running a minimal set of work tools like Outlook and a few bespoke telephony apps. We were recently "upgraded" to Windows 11 which was just horrible - specifically the huge amount of screen real estate that is wasted in the default set up. In the end, I had to do something about it and ventured into "Control Panel" to change the settings as best as I could. Bearing in mind that I've not gone into Windows at this level since Windows 7 (which I already thought was a downgrade from XP where Microsoft peaked), I couldn't believe how unintuitive it was to find and change the settings I wanted. I got there after a lot of messing around but I then realised that I could raise the same complaint about Windows that many Windows users complain about when they encounter Linux - that it's unintuitive and difficult to use.
@@mlpfimguy NVIDIA runs very well on Linux now, especially with them supporting OSS over the last few years. Dell has strong Linux support, and they even sell PC and Laptop offerings with Linux preinstalled. Mac use is a niche scenario, but there are projects that exist like Asahi. Not having full support on Mac isn't a fault or capability of Linux, however -it's Apple who forces a proprietary use-case for their hardware. Hopefully that can change in the future.
@@terminalvelocity4858 I'm just speaking from my own experience. I've previously had issues with NVIDIA GPUs (and I'm definitely not alone in that), and my Dell machines are the only ones that consistently struggle to run Linux properly. But even with those issues, Linux still has better hardware support than Windows 11 lmao
Yeah dunno where he got that idea I've literally never heard double down being used in any other way in the UK. It means the same as it does in the US and I assume all of the English speaking countries.
@@centy64 I suspect the UK person who commented maybe had a different idea of what doubling down means? Here in NZ it means the same as how it was meant in the video, and in fact the Oxford and Cambridge English dictionaries define it the same way.
I decided to switch back to Linux, after discovering that my laptop manufactured in 2021 can technically run Windows 11 but it runs it terribly and takes up most of the limited and non upgradable storage. I tried "upgrading" and found that immediately I had warning messages saying my storage was nearly used up. For some reason after installing GNUcash it said I only had 1.2GB left of 64GB. After many more stupid issues I decided to "downgrade" back to Win10 and when Microsoft pulled this end of life and having to pay for security updates thing I decided to ditch the O.S. entirely and return to Linux Mint. I've been using Linux on and off since the late 1990s and all I'll say is it's great to be back on Linux again.
Might have had the "old" windows 10 still on the drive...you have to "clean up" to remove the old windows entry...but you will not be able to go back if you do
There are so many still fully working laptops and desktops that are going to be trashed all because Microsoft is forcing their users to upgrade to Windows 11 by soon ending end of life support on Windows 10. It's not environmentally friendly to have so many devices being trashed into the landfill dumpsters. Windows 11 is still having lots of issues and in my personal opinion it still should be in beta testing phase.
I see no reason to complain about the situation - it means lots of cheap used hardware goes up for sale online that make perfectly good daily driver machines for Linux. It utterly amazes me that I can pick up a perfectly good and used 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 PC online for a lot less than the cost of the wife and I going out to dine in a restaurant for an evening.
For several years now when asked I have been installing Windows 11 on a number of ancient "eWaste" PCs, including some as old as 2007-2008 era. I typically use the Rufus installation method. They are solid and receiving monthly updates. There is a place for both. Many of my PCs are dual-boot. All of my servers are Linux.
One more option is use Windows 10 LTSC, i saw somewhere that key for ltsc costs $20 - $30 (supported until 2032) so its much cheaper than buying "extended support" for only a year.
It was this attitude from MS that caused me to decide to learn Linux. I am not an IT guy, nor am I young. However, I have learned Linux enough to resurrect my antique machines with lightweight MX Linux. I'm now about five years into my Linux education. Up until the point I changed MS Windows, taught me nothing about computers. Since then, the Linux community has taught me about computing.
The way out of all of this is to just install Linux and use that. I am glad I am not on Windows anymore. I loved Windows 7 but we can't use that anymore as it's end of life. So if I had chosen to stay on Windows I would have had to upgrade to Windows 10. Which I hated but I wouldn't have been able to install Windows 11. Because it's doesn't support 32 bit which is what my netbooks were. In the end I bough a new laptop and installed Linux Mint and I have been on Linux ever since. I think I made the right decision. Even if you have a new 64 bit supported computer Windows 11 is still horrible. I would never use it.
@@AndreaBormanI love Windows 7 as well. Linux cannot replicate the beauty of Aero Glass with blurred effect unfortunately, so I chose Mint-X in Cinnamon. I have CachyOS in my desktop PC.
@@graysonpeddie I would have expected an Aero Glass lookalike to have popped up by now, it's weird. So many people want it, me included! I hate the flat square era.
I would recommend you make a full backup of the Microsoft fonts if you want to cooperatively files that use them. There is support for otf- and tt? font files on Linux. However, if you create a new document it's best if you use a libre font instead, since only then you won't be bogged down by the restrictive licensing of the Microsoft (and other non-open sourced ) fonts.
This "news" was something fishy from the very beginning because it came up when the MSDN windows 11 24H2 distributive images were *already* released, that means that even technically nothing was to be changed in the process of installation, so all the Microsoft limitations remain in tact. Microsoft's just declared that they are aware that people use the intentionally obfuscated method of installation of Windows 11 on older hardware. This was not backtracking, this was a warning: *"we know what you are doing and we'll find some way to make you pay for that, not right now though"* .
Hehe, I was trying Linux Mint (as dual-boot) while keeping my trusted Windows 7. Then the bloody windows failed to update -> reboot -> failed to update -> reboot -> etc. So I had been dropped to the deep end by MS. But to me it was not a problem, I'm an old-timer. I've had computers before Windows existed. And I have worked on a plethora of OS's , so meeting a friendly penguin was no problem at all! Thank you MassiveSoft for showing me the right way.
People do tend to believe that their computer is the first one on the NSA's list of hacking targets. Personally I feel the same as you, and I'm the same about phones. I could care less if they don't receive OS updates because I do not suffer from FOSS in the least. The only reason to upgrade a phone OS is when the apps you want to use won't run anymore.
As a cyber-security professional, I'd recommend anyone to move to Linux as an alternative to sticking with unsupported Windows OSes. But the fact is that pretty much all of us connect to the Internet through NAT routers from private IP addresses which means that nothing "uninitiated" can come into our home environments anyway, unless you configure the router to do it. Yes, when you connect out to an Internet site, the router is then instructed to allow replies to come back in, and malware could piggy-back onto a connection like that - but if you don't go to "dodgy" Internet sites using a bit of common sense then you're fairly safe. The real issue that you may have is XP and Windows 7 probably don't support the latest encryption ciphers and transports which puts you at more risk of "man in the middle" attacks.
@@k.b.tidwell Why would any "three letter agency" bother breaking into someone's computer when their mobile phone probably runs a standard Apple or Google Android OS that broadcasts everything about them, including their actual location to an accuracy of 2 meters, anyway?
keep up the good work! p.s. i was born and raised in the uk, spent the first 30 years of my life in the uk/ireland, and for 10 years now i've lived in the us, and as far as i know "double down" means the same either side of the atlantic. never heard of it meaning to back down before. maybe i'm wrong though! 🤷
I've been running unsecure windows for more than 10 years, nothing bad ever happened, still have all my accounts, mails, bank accounts, everything is safe. Also never installed any anti-virus and never used VPN, it's all money schemes.
I used mostly free applications, so moving to Ubuntu was easy back in January 2009. Today I prefer Debian. Neither operating system forces me to buy new hardware. I upgrade when I want to.
What I did recently was, installed Bazzite onto the 1TB SSD in my computer, since I have a 2TB NVMe for Windows already, been messing around with it, and so far, not too shaby.
I'd guess that the change is meant to address use cases like Vagrant boxes, which is a tool used to create test environments for development. Meeting the TPM and secure boot requirement is not easy on some hypervisors.
Well, this will mean unsupported but perfectly workable business PC's are going to flood the secondhand market in a few years. This is good news for us Linux users!
Indeed. I think the original commenter that attempted to correct him was possibly confusing the term 'double down' with 'double back', which commonly refers to what one does after making a U-turn and returning to their original point of departure.
It just dawned on me why those very annoying "Upgrade to Windows 11" offers after every forced update reboot quit showing up. Not being forced to update could be looked at as a feature.
I'm kind of a spectator here - I really don't care whether I could "upgrade" to Windows 11 or not. The question is more "Do I even WANT to?" I run one PC offline which has Windows 10, and it will STAY running Windows 10 offline. I have zero reasons to want to change to Windows 11, and lots of reasons not to want to. Linux isn't an option for this machine, unfortunately. However I have two other Windows 10 machines that ARE going to Linux.
I had a Thinkpad e585. The only "deficit" was a CPU that was one generation "too old" for Win 11. I used Rufus to update to Win 11 about 2 years ago. The e585 got full support and worked as hoped. I just got a Thinkpad x260 as a Linux machine. I installed Win 11, for kicks, a few weeks ago. No updates at all. Just a generic display driver. Full brightness all the time. Intentionally make the experience suck. I now have that x260 running Sparky Linux XFCE based on Debian Stable. Works a treat.
My problem with Linux that nobody talks about is that I have USB 2.0 audio interfaces with multiple inputs and outputs that only works on Windows and Mac computers. That’s why I’m sticking with Windows and use Linux for something less important
MS Windows 10 hit my gag limit, and that drove me to investigate GNU Linux. Settled on Mint / Cinnamon desktop and have zero regrets for doing so. There are ways to declutter MS Windows 10 and then deny that OS internet access such that 10 stays fast and useful.
So many content creators gave Windows users false hopes!! The only hope is to install Linux Mint OS, Zoren OS, (Tuxedo OS KDE) and be done with Windows.
Have you asked yourself why there are such requirements in W11 (this is not a Windows security issue, it's a cryptography issue, because 20 years ago the computer icon was called My Computer, now This PC)...
Thanks for clarifying "doubling down" USA vs UK. My main misunderstanding came from: "Microsoft Doubles Down on E-Waste" - my misunderstanding was that they were going to try and reduce it, not force more. Yeah, wishful thinking! I'm really happy with recent upgrades to Libre Office, it's even more compatible with MS Office and I can even open Excel Spreadsheets without issues (I'll check that out more over the Christmas holidays), and there were no issues with the reports I wrote using it either. When I asked I was told they just opened like Word Doc's. As always, really appreciate your informative videos. Thanks!
People that use custom software, people that play latest games that require DX12.1, people that do serious graphic/visual editing with the Adobe suite and don’t want a Mac, people that rely heavily on Excel macros, people that use niche media software (like special transcoders that are not available anywhere else), etc. There are literally endless use-cases that Microsoft has a tight grip and that you’re forced to use Windows.
I have a PC that can run windows 11 and meets the requirements except I use win 10 and do not use secure boot one of the requirements. I know I can easily change this but I refuse. I have 40tb raid enclosures set to NTFS. Instead of using windows 11 I will pay$ to get a new raid enclosure with 80tb of storage set it to fat and transfer my files to the new system. Install linux then I will have a complete backup of my Movies n TV shows. About $1,200 to get away from windows. I have tested Linux mint to run Plex and Emby runs like a dream. Thanks for all the info you share!
@@what-about-bob Probably but windows wont read that for me to transfer old to new using the 1 PC I want to run ZFS but I would need 2 PC and do a slower network transfer of files. working with 2 21tb enclosures and will put both on a 5 bay 80tb ZFS. Thanks for this question bacause I now will make ZFS happen.
@@what-about-bob I actually need to rethink this whole thing because my enclosures are hardware raid they don't allow me to create a separate raid with ZFS unless I hooked four of these up together and ran them as a raid package on top of it it's Internal raid. Yeah, I'm gonna have to rethink this but I already have all the equipment I just need to get some drives now so this is Probably not going to happen on this round. I may rethink it if I need to expand beyond 80 terabytes. Right now I'm close to 40tb And I filled the 40tb in about five years.
@@back4more420 If your enclosures are hardware raid, just use linux. Linux can read NTFS fine. Install the distro of your choice, initialize your new raid and format it with BTRFS or whatever, and migrate your data off the NTFS.
The biggest problem on switching to Linux, is for those like me that have spent quite an amount of money on Windows/Mac applications and plugins for use with audio... ie DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) I am a veteran Linux attempter since Ubuntu 12! I tried to use wine app and friends... nothing really works well. I am not a fan of Apple Macs and they are too expensive per same specs than PCs. There must be hundreds of thousands like me. Just HATE Microsoft now... I do not want any AI and all other poop and encryption forced in me. What the heck!
No one who has Win10 "has to" upgrade to Win11. It's just they wont get security updates anymore. I personally plan on using Win10 until Steam no longer supports it. And that may be a good 10+ years off, if ever. Win11 has too many problems for anyone to be thinking about upgrading to it.
While I don't work proffesionally in this myself, I've seen many, MANY comments over the videos that DO use Photoshop professionally and every single time when GIMP is mentioned, they tell that it's not even close, that it's an insult, that whomever says that absolutely has no idea about what Photoshop does and is used. One one the things I vaguely remember that was a deal-breaker for them was something related to color spaces. I don't know exactly why, but apparently GIMP 2 had 0 support for what they needed. Which makes me very happy to see that GIMP 3 has some colorspace improvements. Maybe this will eventually no longer be an issue. One can only dream.
Some of the color spaces use to be missing but I believe even before Gimp 3 came out they had added the most common ones. As he said 90% of everything most people need is available directly in both and there are workarounds for the other 5-9%. Most of the people I've seen post from or talked to that said Gimp didn't do something they wanted when you really pinned them down on it turns out to be they just wanted it to have exactly the same control structure because they are unwilling to learn something new or change to default shortcut keys so it matches better. Basically they have the "I'm an ARTIST" and have an underlying hate for any tech.🙄
@@michaelcummings7246 *No.* GIMP can't even rescale images properly. Some greedy academic broke the scalers on purpose over a decade ago, and they've been broken ever since. Anything scaled up or down in GIMP loses tons of detail, becoming blurry _and_ jagged _at the same time,_ while also afflicted with severe ringing artifacts. I'm not some luddite who is "unwilling to learn". I'm not an artist, so I can't justify the cost of Photoshop. I exclusively use GIMP for image editing, and have done so for the past two decades, but I always have to use ImageMagick whenever I want to scale something, which I do, from the terminal, or sometimes using shell scripts of my own creation. Is that _willing to learn_ enough for you? As long as this is the benchmark for quality in the Linux world, and Linux fanboys like you continue pretending it's okay, the Year of the Linux Desktop shall never arrive. Here's some more context: Back in 2012, "an imaging researcher making his career in academia" (google that phrase if you want to learn more) named Nicolas Robidoux decided to completely remove GIMP's old Lanczos filter (instead of leaving "legacy" scaling modes which are sometimes desirable just like the "legacy" tools and "legacy" layer blending modes), and make new filters from scratch. However, he wanted to be paid thousands of dollars to do so. When the money didn't spontaneously materialize for him out of the volunteer open source community (because duh), he abruptly quit working on it and left GIMP's scaling filters in a broken state. For the _past 12 years._ Also, I invite you to draw in GIMP with a 1 pixel paintbrush. Watch how it waggles back and forth between two solid pixels and one solid pixel. It's not even just not supersampled, it's literally uglier than MS Paint. To do any brush drawing in GIMP, I actually have to scale up the image to 4x resolution, draw at that gargantuan higher resolution, and then scale it back down. Oh but wait, that's right, the GIMP scalers suck! I've written my own supersampling code as an icing feature in UIs where it wasn't even needed, and GIMP can't figure it out? Painting was better, albeit still not great, in GIMP 2.8, which is also the last version that can rescale images decently. Alas, as is the case with Inkscape, which gets slower and glitchier with every release, Linux desktop software forever advances backwards.
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Watching you on my unsupported Lifebook with W11 24H2 and all upgrades and updates installed. Just for fun. Normally I run Fedora. As in Linux world there's a workaround for Windows also.
I have a windows 11 laptop lying around somewhere collecting dust. My desktop is Linux Mint. It's old and runs 6core xeon 3.6 32g ddr4 nvme. I only keep the laptop because it came with an Intel Optane nvme. Like a museum piece.
If you're a gamer, then Arch based Manjaro Gnome is a good option as Wayland runs well on AMD CPU/APU/GPU, and Intel IGPU, but does not roll too fast to risk a lot of breakage that can happen with vanilla Arch, Solus Budgie(their flashship DE) is good for an older system as it's still on X11(they are taking their time on Wayland), and their main software repo has a lot of good software in it. Those are my 2 goto distros for just getting stuff done, but a lot of people seem to like Linux Mint, but I'm personally not a fan of Ubuntu, or Ubuntu based distros for the direction they have been going for a few years now, but there's always Debian based Mint DE(Debian Edition), I'm also not a big fan of Cinnamon DE as it does not fit my workflow, but good luck in your Linux journey. 🙂
There's a lot of fun in distro hopping. I've run almost every one in Distrowatch's listings over the last four years. For rock-reliable uptime and the most software package coverage out there, use a Debian-based distro. Arch distros will be more performant, but require more hands-on at times and since they rolling-update they can break more often than Debian. Have fun with your journey!
I’ve refused to update from windows 10 for a longtime. I’m really looking at switching to Linux as my primary. Only thing I have a concern with is using Linux on a windows laptop. Can windows still track my data through the back door intel chip or does using Linux kinda mask my data so I can’t be tracked and data mined?
If you do a full wipe of your drive, and go all in on Linux, then there is no windows to worry about, except maybe a bootloader option being left behind on some laptops, and desktop motherboards (Linux can do the same thing), which is no big deal. The main thing you will need to worry about on Linux are some oddball WiFi/Bluetooth chipsets, and Nvidia graphics can be a problem on some distros not running the best as Nvidia has been hostile to the Linux world for a long time (look up the Linus Torvalds Nvidia middle finger meme), but that's very slowly changing, and hopefully it will get better. Good Luck. 🙂
Install Linux Mint OS, it will wipe Windows off completely, no more worries like that at all. ..Write down all the steps and follow, step by step and just do it.
If you turn it into a Linux/Windows dual boot machine, run Linux in an ext4 partition and Windows in an NT partition. Linux can read and write to NT file systems, but Windows cannot even read ext4 file systems. That should stop Microsoft from snooping in any work you do under Linux.
I spent the whole weekend wrestling with Windows after the 24h2 update on Friday. Nothing seemed to work! First, I had to fix the EFI partition. Tried uninstalling the updates from the recovery screen-no dice. Falling back to a previous restore point? Nope. Even tried fixing corrupted files with sfc /scannow and doing disk checks. Finally got into safe mode, which felt promising since I couldn't even do that before. Thought I'd be able to uninstall the faulty update from there, but no luck. Deleted all the downloaded files from the hidden update folder-didn't work. Tried upgrading using an ISO, but you can't do that in safe mode. Even uninstalled most of the programs and drivers that might be causing issues-still no go. So I ended up spending the rest of the weekend backing up all my data and config files just to reinstall Windows 11 from scratch and set up my computer the way I need it for work. The kicker? My job insists we use Windows!
Same as long as they are AMD Athlon II X3/4 DDR2 era, or better with SATA ports, SSD, and 8GB of DDR2 800Mhz RAM, d they can be made into useful machines once again with good lower resource using Linux distros like Solus Budgie, Mint DE, etc..
@@CommodoreFan64 A million thumbs up for your username. I was 13 in 1983 and worked all summer HARD to buy one. When enjoying a Sprite meant something other than a soft drink!
Microsoft is not your friend, they will leave you hanging. It takes a couple weeks to a couple months to get used to Linux, then you just laugh when these things happen. Stop letting them screw with you.
I feel relieved. I didn't wait for this video to start experimenting with Linux. I've had it running in a VM since KUbuntu 22.04 was released, and on bare metal for a bit over a year now. Going from 2 windows machines to 3 Linux machines, including my steam deck. Also, some distros of Linux have built in support for some programs, Nobara for example has an installer script for Resolve, which means Nobara has a place on my Editing machine forever now. Quite a few Linux programs have Windows versions, as well, like Libre Office. Why pay for a Microsoft Office key when you can have everything you need for free, including being free of guilt.
Unsupported, meaning PCs that didn't make them any money. It was never about security because many older PCs already met the requirements. They added the processor requirement because they don't make any money if you activate something already in your Bios but probably disabled. We've also seen them remove processors from the list that originally passed, so it was an obvious money grab. But, I have to thank them for their utter greed because without it, I wouldn't have made the switch to Linux. I also like the Idea that my updates don't work on a Russian roulette basis. You may be getting updates on unsupported hardware now, but sooner or later...
Yes, I believe you can easily make a Ventoy thumb drive in Windows. I recommend noobs put MInt, Zorin and Pop OS live ISOs on one (download directly to it) and try each. They will probably go with Zorin cuz it's not ugly.
Zero surprise here, this just means more good hardware at the e-waste for me salvage as people sadly don't realize what they can do with their still usable hardware.
I believe the force of these requirements, at least on paper, is based on a closed tamper-free system where apps can be controlled much akin to on iPhones and the like. Basically it will not longer cease to be *your* PC but under the de facto control of Microsoft especially for their partners. For DRM-purposes.
The American meaning of "doubling down" is from gambling. Someone makes a bet, then the odds change for the worse or they become aware that the odds are different than they thought for whatever reason, and rather than backing off, they double their bet. That is doubling down.
Windoze 11 seems to be the 21st century version of MS-DOS 4. I have numerous machines running Win10 and Linux (dual boot) and have had no issues. One is even a min PC. The only machine I have running Win11 is a Dell desktop. The hard drive light looks like a ship trying to SOS me. Linux, Yes!
I'm a gamer. Seeing the train that is win11 coming down the tracks i decided to try Linux. Quickly I found most games just work with the help of Lutris. A couple have required some extra research and tweaking but nothing excessive. I have switched almost entirely to Linux at yhis point with one big caveat. The caveat is my VR setup doesn't work on Linux and it's an Nvidia problem, so who knows when it will be resolved.
@SwitchedtoLinux I'm on an Arch distro. It is an issue with the driver not initializing the displays. VR manufacturer says it's something they can't fix, they are relying/waiting on Nvidia at this point
Yeah, I was suspicious. As for alternative software, Linux options are decent, but often not as good. However, I still prefer to use Linux with open source software, almost exclusively. For example, LibreOffice is great, but the presentation app (Impress) is a bit clunky. GIMP is passable, but is in desperate need of an overhaul. The new version is promising, though it's unlikely to catch up to Photoshop. Overall, I'm not comfortable claiming that open source apps are just as good. The do the job, but are usually more limited in features and have awkward UI... especially GIMP.
The thing with Photoshop is it is now a service/lease. I recommend Adobe users to stay with Windows and upgrade machines because Windows shares a world view with Adobe about scraping data from your projects. If you are ok with Adobe, there isn't a reason to complain about Windows. Of course, PS screams on a M4 Mac
@@cap_eath Yeah, if anyone is happy with Adobe and Microsoft, they can stick with them. Personally, I dislike the subscription model of many modern apps. Even though I feel the quality of open source apps is not as high as the paid apps, I'd much rather use and support them. My hope for open source software is for them to get to the point where it's close enough to the paid stuff that large numbers of regular users, enthusiasts, semi-professionals (and maybe a few pros too) start using it.
noob here, been trying to get a good linux box up and running, i do have a good understanding, still have alot to learn, however every time i boot from a usb onto anther machine, its either too slow, or dont work. what ive been trying to figure out, and my question is,,,,, could this be some sort of undetected malware? possibly related to certificates? and yea windows 11s last update ruined my home subwoofer, and im not the only one that had speaker issues this past update.
Linux is an excellent system and much more secure than windows by a long shot. That being said... many users are given bad advice on setting a Linux system up.. like using a single partition instead of multiple. I personally am a Debian user since 2000. Also... those who switch should test different distros to find one that they prefer instead of the one size fits all Ubuntu option lol. Those who are new to Linux... don't be discouraged because you are not used to the system... once you learn the ins and outs... you will wonder why you haven't switched long ago. Lol
I switched over a couple of years ago to Linux. Haven't looked back. Still have windows 10 on one dual boot for games, but when that expires won't repurchase again. It's gone so far from being a usable operating system with constant snooping and marketing. For any distro hoppers I really like Q4OS. It's lightweight compared to most other distros 700mb for Trinity, 1.5 gb for Plasma. But it's full fat enough to do just about anything and is an LTS flavor. So a single install lasts upto 3 years, but is not rolling. I like it a lot.
@@bologna3048 The dual boot was put on years ago. Steam is great but sometimes requires fiddling with the version etc. And I wanted to keep an eye a few years ago on how windows was "evolving" or simply for times when with the best efforts some required software didn't run. But you're right which is why I'm not renewing.
Windows 11: Just buy a new PC. Also all apps updated to Windows 11's SSE 4.2 requirements will no longer run on your 16 year old Core 2 with SSE 4.1 support, even with Windows 10. (During a cost of EVERYTHING Crisis?!?) Linux: Install for free on your Core 2 and enjoy your applications!
@@shadergzthe statement says if your PC do not fit the M$ requirements and if you go ahead and install windows 11 anyway you will not get any updates. So problem solved! Windows updates always give headache anyways
As much as I'd love to ditch MS and switch over to Linux full time, the applications just aren't there for it for my specific use cases - namely gaming and music production. Gaming is a lot better than it used to be, but if you want to play anything other than steam games, there are too many hoops to jump through. Music production is a complete writeoff on Linux sadly - there are some good DAWs, which is a great start, but until all of my various plugins get Linux versions, I'm stuck with Windows.
In the infosec space we need to devote the majority of our time to Windows systems for obvious reasons. Thus I can tell you that this has been fiction since the very first release of Windows 11 - after the Developer preview (which allowed local accounts by default, had no encryption and did no TPM checks). Windows 1124H2 Enterprise, Windows server 2025, Windows IoT 24H2 will also happily install with local accounts although Server and Enterprise will do TPM checks which can be bypassed on every version. Now if I want to get technical, I'll say that any custom Windows image can be designed to bypass these restraint checks and many do. Just about the only problem you'll run into with unsupported hardware is driver support... however I'd generally say that any system that supports UEFI will likely run fine on Windows 11 ... however I would not be shocked to see Windows 10 support extended quite a bit past what MS wants. Half the world is still running Windows 10 and lots of people don't intend to ever switch, even if driver support becomes backported in some Windows "old hardware edition". Oh and here's a handy command ... "Dism /online /disable-feature /featurename:recall"
I didn't believe they would ditch their flagship features. They have the OS package rather uniform, installing recall on computers not having the NPU because they are lazy or underpaid to develop two tiered Win11: one for copilot+ and other for machines without it. They seem to take an approch one size fits all. Why would they ditch their requirement for TPM2.0 that has been around for a few years now? Even my 5 yo Win10 machine has it. That just doesn't make sense. The CPU requirement is stupid though.
It’s not a stupid requirement. It’s for an explicit CPU instruction set that its accelerated on CPUs from intel core 8th-gen onwards and it has to do with memory virtualization and randomization at kernel level. Win11 Kernel CAN run on CPUs from previous gens, but since those specific memory randomization and kernel virtualization are used all the time, CPUs without that acceleration suffer from a performance lost of about 40%. It has been measured and was an optional security feature on Win10 that became mandatory on 11.
@@cybermiguelo OK, I stand corrected then. Still, even with reduced performance, folks should have a choice, not being banned from using their hardware they paid for and is now unusable to them unless they switch to Linux, which I have but not everyone is that 'brave', or know that Linux exists at all.
I have 3 HP dual Xeon workstations. Unfortunately, they all have TPM 1.2 I tried Win11 in a virtual machine and it ran fast. MS also looks for specific processor instructions and the Xeons have that instruction set. Since I use my computers for music production, Ubuntu Studio will be a perfect fit. I feel that MS will relent, offering a "home" version without TPM, and a "pro" version with...
It was easy for me... i just disabled TPM 2.0 in my BIOS. Ran Microsoft's PC Health Check and now my PC isn't compatible with Windows 11 even tho my 12th gen CPU supports it.
duh... what were you expecting? I don't get it. This is like saying, I removed one of my wheels on my car and now it thinks it only has 3 wheels now. No kidding mister.
@@riseabove3082 I used as a fail safe to insure that Microsoft wouldn't upgrade it automatically like they did when Windows 10 first came out. The Borg can't be trusted.
as someone who spent enough time under 11s hood attempting to cure it's retardation, i don't really care about support, it's not every day a network cve comes out
Recall is another reason to switch to Linux. Who wants their OS to take screenshots every five seconds!?
I'm sure it's one of the main reasons for many people.
This is what prompted me to switch. I draw the line here.
"windows doesn't allow you to install windows...." GOOD NEWS!!!
That's very close to a truly safe operating system.
Yes, I even heard Microsoft claims it now lets you install Windows 11 on unsupported devices and Microsoft lied.
You still can't install it but using Windows 10 will payment to extend supports is recommended (Which it's a waste a money).
One good thing to come from this is that there are going to be lots of really good second hand computers for sale.
Rubbing my hands together and twirling my evil villain mustache in anticipation! So many projects, so little time!
And only a couple years old too!
Not even really old. Lightly used. My laptop with a 960m and an i7 in the 6000 series is really old.
Gotta get them before the flippers do and artificially jack up the price. Can probably get something circa 2020 for a couple Hondos this year
Nothing more makes people flee to Linux side than MS themselves
Unfortunately, these days, Linux can also be its own worst enemy, especially those that are militant woke, not to mention the organizations that are supposed to be investing into Linux continually make the linux kernel the least prioritized thing they financially support while putting the majority of the money into who knows what non-linux projects. Then there's another major linux organization that's basically going bankrupt, and various distros telling potential users of their distro that they don't want them because anyone not as far left as them is a litter 'Yahtzee' that should not be alive, and definitely shouldn't be using their Linux distro.
Still, that's a weak proposition. You want people flocking to your operating system based on what's good in that system, rather than something that is bad in another system.
Too right and with More people using android (Linux) smartphones every day it's only a matter of time
@Coaxalis Real gooder English.
@@Look_What_You_Did iz yu spik london?
I needed Windows for one troublesome app, so I installed Linux and installed Windows in a container on my Linux desktop.
Modern problems require modern solutions.
If I may ask which app? I've had to flst install office on popos which is a thing with play on Linux. It's always nice to learn about the sticking and pain points
You'll find another app or a way around it eventually and then you won't need windows 😊
you could also use wine to avoid VM's
@@Anyfantis0 wine doesn't always work. There are known troublesome apps.
Though a VM should be a stopgap, while you figure how to stop using the troublesome app.
I recently bought a new laptop that came with Win 11. I played around with it for a month and wiped it out with Linux Mint.
I did the same thing LOL Windows 11 is total dog shiet. Adds in the mail App, in the start menu, popups, banners, yeah not any good.
When I bought my refurbished desktop that came with Winshit 10, the first time I booted it was with a Linux Mint USB in the port, which I promptly installed.
Rushing is definitely a bad idea. In my switching to Mint this year, I learned Audacity, GIMP, and Kdenlive on my WINDOWS machine over a few months. THEN, I went over to Linux Mint. Took a lot of the stress out.
U had the Audacity to switch over to Linux?
@@Michael-it6gb Ha ha! =)
Same. Moved over to apps that worked in both OSes, then made the jump. Switching to Linux also solved my frame loss problem when streaming.
FYI I'm using an older Photoshop on my Mint running Virtual Machine (with no internet allowed).
This is a newer PC, but it runs like a charm. I only started learning editing a year ago, and yes, Kdenlive
is more pleasant to use than Adobe Premiere. And it's FREE. Switching to Linux is VERY painless now.
@@Grogeous_Maximus there's something that mimics photoshop called photopea that runs in the browser and works pretty decently from a vid i saw.
i don't have personal experience using it because i use krita but thought i'd mention it in case its helpful as another alternative
Windows 11 causes more problems that never end. It is the worst version of Windows ever. There is one simple solution to all of this. Get away from Windows 11 and switch to Linux. Problem solved.
Cool to see a comment from the legendary Andrea Borman!
Hope you can do a review of the new XFCE 4.20 and Solus XFCE (still a Beta, but is fast, light and stable!)
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Linux Mint is Amazing,and Big Linux also.
Agreed. I have an old PC here that does not support Win 11. I installed Win 11 as a Win 10 / 11 dual boot system back when Win 11 fist came out. It worked fine until I upgraded to 24h2. It was a dog. Last weekend I restored my 23h2 image file and now all well again.
I stopped using Windows at home when support for Windows 7 ended but work still gave me a laptop with Windows 10 on it - which I just "endured" and only used for running a minimal set of work tools like Outlook and a few bespoke telephony apps.
We were recently "upgraded" to Windows 11 which was just horrible - specifically the huge amount of screen real estate that is wasted in the default set up. In the end, I had to do something about it and ventured into "Control Panel" to change the settings as best as I could.
Bearing in mind that I've not gone into Windows at this level since Windows 7 (which I already thought was a downgrade from XP where Microsoft peaked), I couldn't believe how unintuitive it was to find and change the settings I wanted.
I got there after a lot of messing around but I then realised that I could raise the same complaint about Windows that many Windows users complain about when they encounter Linux - that it's unintuitive and difficult to use.
Many people are now doing everything on their cellphones, with fewer people owning desktop or laptop computers.
Linux Mint on both my machines. Never going back.
The majority of normal users, they're just going to keep running win10 past the EoL date.
Lol I still run win 7 on some of my computers
@@MrJohnnyseven If not for Linux, I would probably still be running Win 7 too.
Win 10 for me
I switched to Fedora 41 and felt at home.
It’s a pretty nice sweet spot between Ubuntu and Arch, isn’t it?
@@SirChristoferus It really is. Having relatively up-to-date packages while maintaining stability.
I picked Nobara instead since it seemed easier to use lol...
@@elechain2441 it is a nice distro. It’s Fedora plus the extras you would expect.
Windows has had a stranglehold on the throats of users for a very long time now. So glad I no longer use it.
Linux has never looked so good for all hardware types 🐧
Unless you have Nvidia graphics drivers, or DELL hardware, or a mac system.
@@mlpfimguy NVIDIA runs very well on Linux now, especially with them supporting OSS over the last few years. Dell has strong Linux support, and they even sell PC and Laptop offerings with Linux preinstalled. Mac use is a niche scenario, but there are projects that exist like Asahi. Not having full support on Mac isn't a fault or capability of Linux, however -it's Apple who forces a proprietary use-case for their hardware. Hopefully that can change in the future.
@@terminalvelocity4858 Yee!! Tf is he tlknbout?! LOL
@@mlpfimguy I have a Dell laptop and the only thing that does not work is the fingerprint reader. The rest works perfectly.
@@terminalvelocity4858 I'm just speaking from my own experience. I've previously had issues with NVIDIA GPUs (and I'm definitely not alone in that), and my Dell machines are the only ones that consistently struggle to run Linux properly. But even with those issues, Linux still has better hardware support than Windows 11 lmao
"reliable" and "high quality" doesn't apply to Windows.
Doubling down to me means the same as your interpretation. That is, to be even more determined to stick to the script and stay on course.
Yeah dunno where he got that idea I've literally never heard double down being used in any other way in the UK. It means the same as it does in the US and I assume all of the English speaking countries.
@@centy64 I suspect the UK person who commented maybe had a different idea of what doubling down means? Here in NZ it means the same as how it was meant in the video, and in fact the Oxford and Cambridge English dictionaries define it the same way.
@@stefanpark1788 It's really baffling where that person got that idea then because that feels like a lost in translation thing.
I decided to switch back to Linux, after discovering that my laptop manufactured in 2021 can technically run Windows 11 but it runs it terribly and takes up most of the limited and non upgradable storage. I tried "upgrading" and found that immediately I had warning messages saying my storage was nearly used up. For some reason after installing GNUcash it said I only had 1.2GB left of 64GB. After many more stupid issues I decided to "downgrade" back to Win10 and when Microsoft pulled this end of life and having to pay for security updates thing I decided to ditch the O.S. entirely and return to Linux Mint. I've been using Linux on and off since the late 1990s and all I'll say is it's great to be back on Linux again.
Windows Recall is active in the background, a giant chunk of resources are being dedicated to it, I just assume that's what it is.
use Arch or QubesOS
Might have had the "old" windows 10 still on the drive...you have to "clean up" to remove the old windows entry...but you will not be able to go back if you do
Let me guess Walmart computer with 64gb of storage, that can't run a bloated Windows 11.
Bruh why did you get 64gb trashtop in the first
There are so many still fully working laptops and desktops that are going to be trashed all because Microsoft is forcing their users to upgrade to Windows 11 by soon ending end of life support on Windows 10. It's not environmentally friendly to have so many devices being trashed into the landfill dumpsters. Windows 11 is still having lots of issues and in my personal opinion it still should be in beta testing phase.
Give it up bro, just install Linux Mint and be done with that garbage. Windows is for Grandmas and Grandpas, out of style
I see no reason to complain about the situation - it means lots of cheap used hardware goes up for sale online that make perfectly good daily driver machines for Linux.
It utterly amazes me that I can pick up a perfectly good and used 3rd or 4th generation Core i5 or i7 PC online for a lot less than the cost of the wife and I going out to dine in a restaurant for an evening.
All part of the plan...
For several years now when asked I have been installing Windows 11 on a number of ancient "eWaste" PCs, including some as old as 2007-2008 era. I typically use the Rufus installation method. They are solid and receiving monthly updates.
There is a place for both. Many of my PCs are dual-boot. All of my servers are Linux.
One more option is use Windows 10 LTSC, i saw somewhere that key for ltsc costs $20 - $30 (supported until 2032) so its much cheaper than buying "extended support" for only a year.
Thats lame bro, won't work well with Apps, thats good for terminals. Just install linux and bring yourself up to date on computing.
@@HOBBS-4XDDD
Where can I buy a windows 10 ltsc key? Need it to run turbotax.
Edit: never mind. Turbotax may require win 11 also.
@@joeshmoe7899 you can use Turbo tax online. That way you can use any computer even Linux.
You don't have to pay for it. Shouldn't,in fact.
Windows un-verified itself last update and did some other creepy things.
creepy is standard MO
It was this attitude from MS that caused me to decide to learn Linux.
I am not an IT guy, nor am I young. However, I have learned Linux enough to resurrect my antique machines with lightweight MX Linux. I'm now about five years into my Linux education. Up until the point I changed MS Windows, taught me nothing about computers. Since then, the Linux community has taught me about computing.
The way out of all of this is to just install Linux and use that. I am glad I am not on Windows anymore. I loved Windows 7 but we can't use that anymore as it's end of life. So if I had chosen to stay on Windows I would have had to upgrade to Windows 10. Which I hated but I wouldn't have been able to install Windows 11. Because it's doesn't support 32 bit which is what my netbooks were. In the end I bough a new laptop and installed Linux Mint and I have been on Linux ever since. I think I made the right decision. Even if you have a new 64 bit supported computer Windows 11 is still horrible. I would never use it.
@@AndreaBormanI love Windows 7 as well. Linux cannot replicate the beauty of Aero Glass with blurred effect unfortunately, so I chose Mint-X in Cinnamon. I have CachyOS in my desktop PC.
@@graysonpeddie I would have expected an Aero Glass lookalike to have popped up by now, it's weird. So many people want it, me included! I hate the flat square era.
@@MadsterV I'm pretty much the same with disliking the flat UI design.
Windows used to be an operating system.... Now, it's an abomination. Linux is the way
Try now in the different ways you suggested are the best way before one is in a panic. Great advice.
I would recommend you make a full backup of the Microsoft fonts if you want to cooperatively files that use them. There is support for otf- and tt? font files on Linux. However, if you create a new document it's best if you use a libre font instead, since only then you won't be bogged down by the restrictive licensing of the Microsoft (and other non-open sourced ) fonts.
This "news" was something fishy from the very beginning because it came up when the MSDN windows 11 24H2 distributive images were *already* released, that means that even technically nothing was to be changed in the process of installation, so all the Microsoft limitations remain in tact. Microsoft's just declared that they are aware that people use the intentionally obfuscated method of installation of Windows 11 on older hardware. This was not backtracking, this was a warning: *"we know what you are doing and we'll find some way to make you pay for that, not right now though"* .
Hehe, I was trying Linux Mint (as dual-boot) while keeping my trusted Windows 7. Then the bloody windows failed to update -> reboot -> failed to update -> reboot -> etc. So I had been dropped to the deep end by MS. But to me it was not a problem, I'm an old-timer. I've had computers before Windows existed. And I have worked on a plethora of OS's , so meeting a friendly penguin was no problem at all! Thank you MassiveSoft for showing me the right way.
People are over thinking this. I still use 7 and XP on some computers and I’ve never had issues. I wouldn’t worry about support.
People do tend to believe that their computer is the first one on the NSA's list of hacking targets. Personally I feel the same as you, and I'm the same about phones. I could care less if they don't receive OS updates because I do not suffer from FOSS in the least. The only reason to upgrade a phone OS is when the apps you want to use won't run anymore.
No harm to start learning Linux now.
Just in case, When your hardwares fail, and windows 7 can't run in the new computers.
As a cyber-security professional, I'd recommend anyone to move to Linux as an alternative to sticking with unsupported Windows OSes.
But the fact is that pretty much all of us connect to the Internet through NAT routers from private IP addresses which means that nothing "uninitiated" can come into our home environments anyway, unless you configure the router to do it.
Yes, when you connect out to an Internet site, the router is then instructed to allow replies to come back in, and malware could piggy-back onto a connection like that - but if you don't go to "dodgy" Internet sites using a bit of common sense then you're fairly safe.
The real issue that you may have is XP and Windows 7 probably don't support the latest encryption ciphers and transports which puts you at more risk of "man in the middle" attacks.
@@k.b.tidwell Why would any "three letter agency" bother breaking into someone's computer when their mobile phone probably runs a standard Apple or Google Android OS that broadcasts everything about them, including their actual location to an accuracy of 2 meters, anyway?
keep up the good work!
p.s. i was born and raised in the uk, spent the first 30 years of my life in the uk/ireland, and for 10 years now i've lived in the us, and as far as i know "double down" means the same either side of the atlantic. never heard of it meaning to back down before. maybe i'm wrong though! 🤷
from the UK myself and I've never heard of it meaning back down either lol
I've been running unsecure windows for more than 10 years, nothing bad ever happened, still have all my accounts, mails, bank accounts, everything is safe.
Also never installed any anti-virus and never used VPN, it's all money schemes.
I used mostly free applications, so moving to Ubuntu was easy back in January 2009. Today I prefer Debian. Neither operating system forces me to buy new hardware. I upgrade when I want to.
What I did recently was, installed Bazzite onto the 1TB SSD in my computer, since I have a 2TB NVMe for Windows already, been messing around with it, and so far, not too shaby.
If I didn't run CachyOs, I'd run Bazzite
I'd guess that the change is meant to address use cases like Vagrant boxes, which is a tool used to create test environments for development. Meeting the TPM and secure boot requirement is not easy on some hypervisors.
Well, this will mean unsupported but perfectly workable business PC's are going to flood the secondhand market in a few years. This is good news for us Linux users!
Term Double Down in UK means the same as your description. To backtrack is to make a U turn
Indeed. I think the original commenter that attempted to correct him was possibly confusing the term 'double down' with 'double back', which commonly refers to what one does after making a U-turn and returning to their original point of departure.
It just dawned on me why those very annoying "Upgrade to Windows 11" offers after every forced update reboot quit showing up. Not being forced to update could be looked at as a feature.
There are two things that are stopping me from upgrading to Win 11: 1 -> Secure Boot ~ 2 -> CPU. I do have TPM 2.0
The two things for me are it's horrid, and I refuse to. Plus I already run Linux.
Doubling down means the same thing here in the UK as you said for over the other side of the pond 🙂
I'm kind of a spectator here - I really don't care whether I could "upgrade" to Windows 11 or not. The question is more "Do I even WANT to?" I run one PC offline which has Windows 10, and it will STAY running Windows 10 offline. I have zero reasons to want to change to Windows 11, and lots of reasons not to want to. Linux isn't an option for this machine, unfortunately. However I have two other Windows 10 machines that ARE going to Linux.
Thanks for mentioning gaming, Tom. Bazzite is my Linux gaming, retro emulator and desktop.
I had a Thinkpad e585. The only "deficit" was a CPU that was one generation "too old" for Win 11. I used Rufus to update to Win 11 about 2 years ago. The e585 got full support and worked as hoped.
I just got a Thinkpad x260 as a Linux machine. I installed Win 11, for kicks, a few weeks ago. No updates at all. Just a generic display driver. Full brightness all the time. Intentionally make the experience suck.
I now have that x260 running Sparky Linux XFCE based on Debian Stable. Works a treat.
My problem with Linux that nobody talks about is that I have USB 2.0 audio interfaces with multiple inputs and outputs that only works on Windows and Mac computers. That’s why I’m sticking with Windows and use Linux for something less important
MS Windows 10 hit my gag limit, and that drove me to investigate GNU Linux. Settled on Mint / Cinnamon desktop and have zero regrets for doing so. There are ways to declutter MS Windows 10 and then deny that OS internet access such that 10 stays fast and useful.
So many content creators gave Windows users false hopes!! The only hope is to install Linux Mint OS, Zoren OS, (Tuxedo OS KDE) and be done with Windows.
Have you asked yourself why there are such requirements in W11 (this is not a Windows security issue, it's a cryptography issue, because 20 years ago the computer icon was called My Computer, now This PC)...
Our Computer
Good channel, you got my sub 😄
Thanks for clarifying "doubling down" USA vs UK. My main misunderstanding came from: "Microsoft Doubles Down on E-Waste" - my misunderstanding was that they were going to try and reduce it, not force more. Yeah, wishful thinking! I'm really happy with recent upgrades to Libre Office, it's even more compatible with MS Office and I can even open Excel Spreadsheets without issues (I'll check that out more over the Christmas holidays), and there were no issues with the reports I wrote using it either. When I asked I was told they just opened like Word Doc's. As always, really appreciate your informative videos. Thanks!
Why would anyone want Windows 11?
Apple users who can't afford Apple devices
People that use custom software, people that play latest games that require DX12.1, people that do serious graphic/visual editing with the Adobe suite and don’t want a Mac, people that rely heavily on Excel macros, people that use niche media software (like special transcoders that are not available anywhere else), etc.
There are literally endless use-cases that Microsoft has a tight grip and that you’re forced to use Windows.
Windows users that don't know any better. Are you one of them? I hope not, get with the times.
because some of us works on apps, which don't work on linux? when all that apps will work, i will be first to jump..
@@izoyt I call you people the "OMT's" - because you'll always say that "One More Thing" needs to happen before you'll try Linux.
That's why I switched to Linux. Windows should have stopped at 7
For me, it did.
Thanks for the Alternativeto ressource !! I didn't know it, it's awesome
I have a PC that can run windows 11 and meets the requirements except I use win 10 and do not use secure boot one of the requirements. I know I can easily change this but I refuse. I have 40tb raid enclosures set to NTFS. Instead of using windows 11 I will pay$ to get a new raid enclosure with 80tb of storage set it to fat and transfer my files to the new system. Install linux then I will have a complete backup of my Movies n TV shows. About $1,200 to get away from windows. I have tested Linux mint to run Plex and Emby runs like a dream. Thanks for all the info you share!
Are sure FAT is the way to go as a file system if you are moving to Linux? Wouldn't it be better to use ZFS, BTRFS or the default for Linux (ext4)?
@@what-about-bob Probably but windows wont read that for me to transfer old to new using the 1 PC I want to run ZFS but I would need 2 PC and do a slower network transfer of files. working with 2 21tb enclosures and will put both on a 5 bay 80tb ZFS. Thanks for this question bacause I now will make ZFS happen.
@@what-about-bob I actually need to rethink this whole thing because my enclosures are hardware raid they don't allow me to create a separate raid with ZFS unless I hooked four of these up together and ran them as a raid package on top of it it's Internal raid. Yeah, I'm gonna have to rethink this but I already have all the equipment I just need to get some drives now so this is Probably not going to happen on this round. I may rethink it if I need to expand beyond 80 terabytes. Right now I'm close to 40tb And I filled the 40tb in about five years.
@@back4more420 If your enclosures are hardware raid, just use linux. Linux can read NTFS fine. Install the distro of your choice, initialize your new raid and format it with BTRFS or whatever, and migrate your data off the NTFS.
If you install 24h2 with rufus, you have installed 11 with unsupported harsware. Issue will be updates later
I’ve switched to Linux mint and never looked back
The biggest problem on switching to Linux, is for those like me that have spent quite an amount of money on Windows/Mac applications and plugins for use with audio... ie DAW (Digital Audio Workstation)
I am a veteran Linux attempter since Ubuntu 12!
I tried to use wine app and friends... nothing really works well.
I am not a fan of Apple Macs and they are too expensive per same specs than PCs.
There must be hundreds of thousands like me.
Just HATE Microsoft now...
I do not want any AI and all other poop and encryption forced in me.
What the heck!
No one who has Win10 "has to" upgrade to Win11. It's just they wont get security updates anymore.
I personally plan on using Win10 until Steam no longer supports it. And that may be a good 10+ years off, if ever. Win11 has too many problems for anyone to be thinking about upgrading to it.
Even if I manage to install W11 on unsupported hardware I wouldn't trust that security updates stay up to date.
While I don't work proffesionally in this myself, I've seen many, MANY comments over the videos that DO use Photoshop professionally and every single time when GIMP is mentioned, they tell that it's not even close, that it's an insult, that whomever says that absolutely has no idea about what Photoshop does and is used.
One one the things I vaguely remember that was a deal-breaker for them was something related to color spaces. I don't know exactly why, but apparently GIMP 2 had 0 support for what they needed.
Which makes me very happy to see that GIMP 3 has some colorspace improvements. Maybe this will eventually no longer be an issue. One can only dream.
Some of the color spaces use to be missing but I believe even before Gimp 3 came out they had added the most common ones. As he said 90% of everything most people need is available directly in both and there are workarounds for the other 5-9%. Most of the people I've seen post from or talked to that said Gimp didn't do something they wanted when you really pinned them down on it turns out to be they just wanted it to have exactly the same control structure because they are unwilling to learn something new or change to default shortcut keys so it matches better. Basically they have the "I'm an ARTIST" and have an underlying hate for any tech.🙄
THIS is exactly what I was getting at.
They will never change, they got sucked into being in the Microsoft environment through out school and were brain washed into thinking that way.
@@michaelcummings7246 *No.* GIMP can't even rescale images properly. Some greedy academic broke the scalers on purpose over a decade ago, and they've been broken ever since. Anything scaled up or down in GIMP loses tons of detail, becoming blurry _and_ jagged _at the same time,_ while also afflicted with severe ringing artifacts. I'm not some luddite who is "unwilling to learn". I'm not an artist, so I can't justify the cost of Photoshop. I exclusively use GIMP for image editing, and have done so for the past two decades, but I always have to use ImageMagick whenever I want to scale something, which I do, from the terminal, or sometimes using shell scripts of my own creation. Is that _willing to learn_ enough for you? As long as this is the benchmark for quality in the Linux world, and Linux fanboys like you continue pretending it's okay, the Year of the Linux Desktop shall never arrive.
Here's some more context: Back in 2012, "an imaging researcher making his career in academia" (google that phrase if you want to learn more) named Nicolas Robidoux decided to completely remove GIMP's old Lanczos filter (instead of leaving "legacy" scaling modes which are sometimes desirable just like the "legacy" tools and "legacy" layer blending modes), and make new filters from scratch. However, he wanted to be paid thousands of dollars to do so. When the money didn't spontaneously materialize for him out of the volunteer open source community (because duh), he abruptly quit working on it and left GIMP's scaling filters in a broken state. For the _past 12 years._
Also, I invite you to draw in GIMP with a 1 pixel paintbrush. Watch how it waggles back and forth between two solid pixels and one solid pixel. It's not even just not supersampled, it's literally uglier than MS Paint. To do any brush drawing in GIMP, I actually have to scale up the image to 4x resolution, draw at that gargantuan higher resolution, and then scale it back down. Oh but wait, that's right, the GIMP scalers suck! I've written my own supersampling code as an icing feature in UIs where it wasn't even needed, and GIMP can't figure it out? Painting was better, albeit still not great, in GIMP 2.8, which is also the last version that can rescale images decently. Alas, as is the case with Inkscape, which gets slower and glitchier with every release, Linux desktop software forever advances backwards.
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Watching you on my unsupported Lifebook with W11 24H2 and all upgrades and updates installed. Just for fun. Normally I run Fedora. As in Linux world there's a workaround for Windows also.
I have a windows 11 laptop lying around somewhere collecting dust. My desktop is Linux Mint. It's old and runs 6core xeon 3.6 32g ddr4 nvme. I only keep the laptop because it came with an Intel Optane nvme. Like a museum piece.
One of my computers was being left behind, so i am currently bouncing between distros to settle on a replacement.
If you're a gamer, then Arch based Manjaro Gnome is a good option as Wayland runs well on AMD CPU/APU/GPU, and Intel IGPU, but does not roll too fast to risk a lot of breakage that can happen with vanilla Arch, Solus Budgie(their flashship DE) is good for an older system as it's still on X11(they are taking their time on Wayland), and their main software repo has a lot of good software in it. Those are my 2 goto distros for just getting stuff done, but a lot of people seem to like Linux Mint, but I'm personally not a fan of Ubuntu, or Ubuntu based distros for the direction they have been going for a few years now, but there's always Debian based Mint DE(Debian Edition), I'm also not a big fan of Cinnamon DE as it does not fit my workflow, but good luck in your Linux journey. 🙂
There's a lot of fun in distro hopping. I've run almost every one in Distrowatch's listings over the last four years. For rock-reliable uptime and the most software package coverage out there, use a Debian-based distro. Arch distros will be more performant, but require more hands-on at times and since they rolling-update they can break more often than Debian. Have fun with your journey!
I’ve refused to update from windows 10 for a longtime. I’m really looking at switching to Linux as my primary. Only thing I have a concern with is using Linux on a windows laptop. Can windows still track my data through the back door intel chip or does using Linux kinda mask my data so I can’t be tracked and data mined?
If you do a full wipe of your drive, and go all in on Linux, then there is no windows to worry about, except maybe a bootloader option being left behind on some laptops, and desktop motherboards (Linux can do the same thing), which is no big deal. The main thing you will need to worry about on Linux are some oddball WiFi/Bluetooth chipsets, and Nvidia graphics can be a problem on some distros not running the best as Nvidia has been hostile to the Linux world for a long time (look up the Linus Torvalds Nvidia middle finger meme), but that's very slowly changing, and hopefully it will get better. Good Luck. 🙂
Install Linux Mint OS, it will wipe Windows off completely, no more worries like that at all. ..Write down all the steps and follow, step by step and just do it.
If you turn it into a Linux/Windows dual boot machine, run Linux in an ext4 partition and Windows in an NT partition. Linux can read and write to NT file systems, but Windows cannot even read ext4 file systems. That should stop Microsoft from snooping in any work you do under Linux.
They're really scared about when October rolls around and millions get that Linux Mint/Pop OS/Zorin memory stick out of the Drawer.
a bootable stick to try it out is a good idea, I forgot those existed
I spent the whole weekend wrestling with Windows after the 24h2 update on Friday. Nothing seemed to work! First, I had to fix the EFI partition. Tried uninstalling the updates from the recovery screen-no dice. Falling back to a previous restore point? Nope. Even tried fixing corrupted files with sfc /scannow and doing disk checks. Finally got into safe mode, which felt promising since I couldn't even do that before. Thought I'd be able to uninstall the faulty update from there, but no luck. Deleted all the downloaded files from the hidden update folder-didn't work. Tried upgrading using an ISO, but you can't do that in safe mode. Even uninstalled most of the programs and drivers that might be causing issues-still no go. So I ended up spending the rest of the weekend backing up all my data and config files just to reinstall Windows 11 from scratch and set up my computer the way I need it for work. The kicker? My job insists we use Windows!
Throw those old PCs my way for Linux.
Same as long as they are AMD Athlon II X3/4 DDR2 era, or better with SATA ports, SSD, and 8GB of DDR2 800Mhz RAM, d they can be made into useful machines once again with good lower resource using Linux distros like Solus Budgie, Mint DE, etc..
@@CommodoreFan64 A million thumbs up for your username. I was 13 in 1983 and worked all summer HARD to buy one. When enjoying a Sprite meant something other than a soft drink!
Microsoft is not your friend, they will leave you hanging. It takes a couple weeks to a couple months to get used to Linux, then you just laugh when these things happen. Stop letting them screw with you.
Don't have to throw the hardware away, turn it into a pfsense firewall / router.
I feel relieved. I didn't wait for this video to start experimenting with Linux. I've had it running in a VM since KUbuntu 22.04 was released, and on bare metal for a bit over a year now. Going from 2 windows machines to 3 Linux machines, including my steam deck.
Also, some distros of Linux have built in support for some programs, Nobara for example has an installer script for Resolve, which means Nobara has a place on my Editing machine forever now.
Quite a few Linux programs have Windows versions, as well, like Libre Office. Why pay for a Microsoft Office key when you can have everything you need for free, including being free of guilt.
Doubling down doesn't mean backtrack in the UK. It means exactly what you said.
what you stated at 1:50 min mark all you have to do is update your bios on your motherboard and that massage willl go away period
Unsupported, meaning PCs that didn't make them any money. It was never about security because many older PCs already met the requirements. They added the processor requirement because they don't make any money if you activate something already in your Bios but probably disabled. We've also seen them remove processors from the list that originally passed, so it was an obvious money grab. But, I have to thank them for their utter greed because without it, I wouldn't have made the switch to Linux. I also like the Idea that my updates don't work on a Russian roulette basis. You may be getting updates on unsupported hardware now, but sooner or later...
I used windows 7 all the way up until about a month ago.. Most people are just going to keep using Windows 10 anyway.
I loved (and still love) Windows 7. It was the best OS Microsoft put out there (next to XP)
I'm using Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. I'll still keep getting updates.
Yes, I believe you can easily make a Ventoy thumb drive in Windows. I recommend noobs put MInt, Zorin and Pop OS live ISOs on one (download directly to it) and try each. They will probably go with Zorin cuz it's not ugly.
Zero surprise here, this just means more good hardware at the e-waste for me salvage as people sadly don't realize what they can do with their still usable hardware.
I believe the force of these requirements, at least on paper, is based on a closed tamper-free system where apps can be controlled much akin to on iPhones and the like.
Basically it will not longer cease to be *your* PC but under the de facto control of Microsoft especially for their partners.
For DRM-purposes.
for the last two years, every time i buy a new machine i wipe 11 from it and put 7 or 10 on it
Linux, High Seas, and virtual machines for thee.
The American meaning of "doubling down" is from gambling. Someone makes a bet, then the odds change for the worse or they become aware that the odds are different than they thought for whatever reason, and rather than backing off, they double their bet. That is doubling down.
Windoze 11 seems to be the 21st century version of MS-DOS 4. I have numerous machines running Win10 and Linux (dual boot) and have had no issues. One is even a min PC. The only machine I have running Win11 is a Dell desktop. The hard drive light looks like a ship trying to SOS me.
Linux, Yes!
I'm a gamer. Seeing the train that is win11 coming down the tracks i decided to try Linux.
Quickly I found most games just work with the help of Lutris. A couple have required some extra research and tweaking but nothing excessive.
I have switched almost entirely to Linux at yhis point with one big caveat.
The caveat is my VR setup doesn't work on Linux and it's an Nvidia problem, so who knows when it will be resolved.
Most NVIDA issues are resolved on Arch at this point.
@SwitchedtoLinux I'm on an Arch distro. It is an issue with the driver not initializing the displays. VR manufacturer says it's something they can't fix, they are relying/waiting on Nvidia at this point
Yeah, I was suspicious.
As for alternative software, Linux options are decent, but often not as good. However, I still prefer to use Linux with open source software, almost exclusively.
For example, LibreOffice is great, but the presentation app (Impress) is a bit clunky. GIMP is passable, but is in desperate need of an overhaul. The new version is promising, though it's unlikely to catch up to Photoshop.
Overall, I'm not comfortable claiming that open source apps are just as good. The do the job, but are usually more limited in features and have awkward UI... especially GIMP.
The thing with Photoshop is it is now a service/lease. I recommend Adobe users to stay with Windows and upgrade machines because Windows shares a world view with Adobe about scraping data from your projects. If you are ok with Adobe, there isn't a reason to complain about Windows. Of course, PS screams on a M4 Mac
@@cap_eath Yeah, if anyone is happy with Adobe and Microsoft, they can stick with them. Personally, I dislike the subscription model of many modern apps. Even though I feel the quality of open source apps is not as high as the paid apps, I'd much rather use and support them.
My hope for open source software is for them to get to the point where it's close enough to the paid stuff that large numbers of regular users, enthusiasts, semi-professionals (and maybe a few pros too) start using it.
I think the real story here is people are dumb and interpreted this Microsoft article to what suited them best 😅
noob here, been trying to get a good linux box up and running, i do have a good understanding, still have alot to learn, however every time i boot from a usb onto anther machine, its either too slow, or dont work. what ive been trying to figure out, and my question is,,,,, could this be some sort of undetected malware? possibly related to certificates? and yea windows 11s last update ruined my home subwoofer, and im not the only one that had speaker issues this past update.
Usually a slow computer on a USB drive is because the drive is not USB 3.0 or higher
Linux is an excellent system and much more secure than windows by a long shot. That being said... many users are given bad advice on setting a Linux system up.. like using a single partition instead of multiple. I personally am a Debian user since 2000. Also... those who switch should test different distros to find one that they prefer instead of the one size fits all Ubuntu option lol.
Those who are new to Linux... don't be discouraged because you are not used to the system... once you learn the ins and outs... you will wonder why you haven't switched long ago. Lol
I have completely given up on MS and am permanently entrenched in Linux.
I switched over a couple of years ago to Linux. Haven't looked back. Still have windows 10 on one dual boot for games, but when that expires won't repurchase again. It's gone so far from being a usable operating system with constant snooping and marketing. For any distro hoppers I really like Q4OS. It's lightweight compared to most other distros 700mb for Trinity, 1.5 gb for Plasma. But it's full fat enough to do just about anything and is an LTS flavor. So a single install lasts upto 3 years, but is not rolling. I like it a lot.
you still dual boot "for games"??? In 2024??
@@bologna3048 The dual boot was put on years ago. Steam is great but sometimes requires fiddling with the version etc. And I wanted to keep an eye a few years ago on how windows was "evolving" or simply for times when with the best efforts some required software didn't run. But you're right which is why I'm not renewing.
Windows 11: Just buy a new PC. Also all apps updated to Windows 11's SSE 4.2 requirements will no longer run on your 16 year old Core 2 with SSE 4.1 support, even with Windows 10. (During a cost of EVERYTHING Crisis?!?)
Linux: Install for free on your Core 2 and enjoy your applications!
So if you not get update, problem solved 😅
The system forces you to upgrade, so... You don't have a choice here
@@shadergzthe statement says if your PC do not fit the M$ requirements and if you go ahead and install windows 11 anyway you will not get any updates.
So problem solved!
Windows updates always give headache anyways
If you don't update = insecure.
If you update, then you get an update so you wont get any more updates = insecure.
As much as I'd love to ditch MS and switch over to Linux full time, the applications just aren't there for it for my specific use cases - namely gaming and music production. Gaming is a lot better than it used to be, but if you want to play anything other than steam games, there are too many hoops to jump through.
Music production is a complete writeoff on Linux sadly - there are some good DAWs, which is a great start, but until all of my various plugins get Linux versions, I'm stuck with Windows.
I think I will upgrade to Windows 10, Yes you heard it, I've never used it before, I'm currently on Windows 7 for the last 15 years or so
In the infosec space we need to devote the majority of our time to Windows systems for obvious reasons. Thus I can tell you that this has been fiction since the very first release of Windows 11 - after the Developer preview (which allowed local accounts by default, had no encryption and did no TPM checks). Windows 1124H2 Enterprise, Windows server 2025, Windows IoT 24H2 will also happily install with local accounts although Server and Enterprise will do TPM checks which can be bypassed on every version. Now if I want to get technical, I'll say that any custom Windows image can be designed to bypass these restraint checks and many do. Just about the only problem you'll run into with unsupported hardware is driver support... however I'd generally say that any system that supports UEFI will likely run fine on Windows 11 ... however I would not be shocked to see Windows 10 support extended quite a bit past what MS wants. Half the world is still running Windows 10 and lots of people don't intend to ever switch, even if driver support becomes backported in some Windows "old hardware edition". Oh and here's a handy command ... "Dism /online /disable-feature /featurename:recall"
Server 2022 can be good replacement but i duno how much it will be comp with new games coming up
Reason #4,096 why I keep Windows 11 on an external SSD for edge case scenarios.
*I use Arch, btw.* 🐧
Bluefin Linux is Great. The developers still have a way to go but this will be the new standard for Linux.
I'm looking forward to the flood of perfectly good PCs to hit the used market for dirt cheap.
I didn't believe they would ditch their flagship features. They have the OS package rather uniform, installing recall on computers not having the NPU because they are lazy or underpaid to develop two tiered Win11: one for copilot+ and other for machines without it. They seem to take an approch one size fits all. Why would they ditch their requirement for TPM2.0 that has been around for a few years now? Even my 5 yo Win10 machine has it. That just doesn't make sense. The CPU requirement is stupid though.
It’s not a stupid requirement. It’s for an explicit CPU instruction set that its accelerated on CPUs from intel core 8th-gen onwards and it has to do with memory virtualization and randomization at kernel level. Win11 Kernel CAN run on CPUs from previous gens, but since those specific memory randomization and kernel virtualization are used all the time, CPUs without that acceleration suffer from a performance lost of about 40%. It has been measured and was an optional security feature on Win10 that became mandatory on 11.
@@cybermiguelo OK, I stand corrected then. Still, even with reduced performance, folks should have a choice, not being banned from using their hardware they paid for and is now unusable to them unless they switch to Linux, which I have but not everyone is that 'brave', or know that Linux exists at all.
I have 3 HP dual Xeon workstations. Unfortunately, they all have TPM 1.2 I tried Win11 in a virtual machine and it ran fast. MS also looks for specific processor instructions and the Xeons have that instruction set. Since I use my computers for music production, Ubuntu Studio will be a perfect fit. I feel that MS will relent, offering a "home" version without TPM, and a "pro" version with...
Computer industry and MS found golden formula with Y2K hardware upgrade, so much new computers sold in 1999. So they repeat it every 5 years.
It was easy for me... i just disabled TPM 2.0 in my BIOS. Ran Microsoft's PC Health Check and now my PC isn't compatible with Windows 11 even tho my 12th gen CPU supports it.
duh... what were you expecting? I don't get it. This is like saying, I removed one of my wheels on my car and now it thinks it only has 3 wheels now. No kidding mister.
@@riseabove3082 I used as a fail safe to insure that Microsoft wouldn't upgrade it automatically like they did when Windows 10 first came out. The Borg can't be trusted.
Still looking forward to the glut of used Windows 10 computers on eBay
PREDICTION-$20 says by early summer, MS will announce that Windows 10 will be getting an ADDITIONAL 3-5 years of supported life.
as someone who spent enough time under 11s hood attempting to cure it's retardation, i don't really care about support, it's not every day a network cve comes out
Either that or they will have to roll back the win11 requirements. Either way that's a win.
Nah! Microsoft will do whatever they want and force their garbage down everyone's throats as usual. They'll NEVER succumb to the will of the users.