The Death of Maude Flanders: How Fox's Corporate Greed Changed The Simpsons Forever

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  • Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025

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  • @andruism7
    @andruism7 5 месяцев назад +66

    For me, the episode that killed the Simpsons was one from I think the 12th season where Homer dressed up like a panda, got raped by a male panda, and then the episode ended with Mr. Burns throwing fish guts at people from a parade float. It was so mean spirited I just couldn't keep stomaching it.

    • @gridlo
      @gridlo 5 месяцев назад +19

      I hate that episode too and no one ever cites it. It felt like a studio note in the wake of Family Guy: "We need to be edgier! People love edgey!!"

    • @selfan2005
      @selfan2005 5 месяцев назад +4

      Lenny: OWWWW!!!! My eye!" 😂

    • @glennross85
      @glennross85 5 месяцев назад +6

      ​@@gridlo100% the popularity of other shows like Family Guy and South Park forced the Simpsons to change to try and stay relevent.

    • @borntoclimb7116
      @borntoclimb7116 5 месяцев назад

      @@andruism7 i dont like the Scene, muscle marge is "raping" homer

    • @LucianDevine
      @LucianDevine 4 месяца назад +3

      @@selfan2005 What are you doing man? That's Carl!

  • @gedaman
    @gedaman 5 месяцев назад +19

    They reported on the news in 1999 that Maggie Roswell quit doing the show because of long distance. They never mentioned that it was due to money. Couldn’t they have done remote recording closer to her home? Nowadays I’m sure they would have come up with that solution.

  • @ainsleymatich1403
    @ainsleymatich1403 5 месяцев назад +43

    I’ve always heard the episode where Principal Skinner is found out to be a different person who stole Skinner’s identity is when the golden age of Simpsons ended. Honestly, that should have been a Tree House of Horror episode. I think anytime the writers stretch too far outside the rules of the universe they betray the trust the audience has in the show. Maude’s death wasn’t in service to the story or the characters, it was just a shocking and sad event that left the audience feeling like this was a different show than it was the week before. The Simpsons really is a show that you have to appreciate for its different eras, and Maude’s death feels like it was the end of a significant one

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад

      No actually cares about that. No one cares about Skinner. This is textbook recived wisdom.

    • @intellectually_lazy
      @intellectually_lazy 3 месяца назад +2

      bah, it wasn't so bad! i'd let go of all expectations of normalcy years earlier when homer was in a barber shop quartet

    • @andruism7
      @andruism7 3 месяца назад +1

      @@ainsleymatich1403 i actually liked that episode. To this day I still like to repeat the line “Up yours, children!”

  • @electricperfume7870
    @electricperfume7870 5 месяцев назад +31

    My *biggest* gripe with the Simpsons has been the time scaling. It's hard to write around with a show thats been around 30+ years and refuses to die with dignity, but the 90s episode and then the more recent one where the adults are shown to be in high school more around Y2K, it undoes a lot of well established and well loved lore, my particular favorite being Skinner being a freaked out 'Nam vet.
    I *never* want to see a Simpsons character holding a smart phone.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 5 месяцев назад +2

      Simpsons character have held smartphones

    • @electricperfume7870
      @electricperfume7870 5 месяцев назад

      @@user-vi4xy1jw7e I am aware
      I don't like seeing it

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад +3

      Oh for gods sake get over yourself the grandpa's backstory changes every episode. From being a kid in ww1 to being born in 19 ticekty two. Likewise in raging abe simpson hes a war hero every other episode hes a darft doger.
      Yet your fine with that retcon because 90s

    • @electricperfume7870
      @electricperfume7870 5 месяцев назад

      @@nifralo2752 settle down

    • @jasonblalock4429
      @jasonblalock4429 4 месяца назад +1

      @@nifralo2752 Agreed. I think a lot of various fandoms over-fixate on "continuity" in general, but it's especially silly trying to do it with The Simpsons. There's no point demanding canonical consistency from a show that's never bothered being consistent.
      (See also: Doctor Who.)

  • @richardgadberry8398
    @richardgadberry8398 5 месяцев назад +25

    5:24 "Sex Cauldron? I thought they closed that place down!"

    • @lmfislb
      @lmfislb 5 месяцев назад

      Underrated comment

    • @SPAnComCat
      @SPAnComCat 5 месяцев назад

      How Amusing.😏

  • @KwanzaaKalus
    @KwanzaaKalus 4 месяца назад +1

    I am one of the people that think the show went downhill after season 8/9. I came to Canada in 1994 at the age of 9 and The Simpsons helped me learn English and make friends because most kids where I grew up weren't allowed to watch it, including me. Seeing it now is like seeing a dead pet that your dad ran over backing out of the driveway and insisted on using taxadermy in order to make it up to you. I am going to sound cheesy, but I honestly get a bit sad whenever I see an episode from the 1990's and remembering how great the show was back then and how Fox/Disney have mutated it into a monstrosity.
    Thanks for the video, man. Can't wait for the next gem.

  • @AnomalyDocs
    @AnomalyDocs 6 дней назад +1

    I knew the story but you did it with gusto and covered a bunch of details I hadn't known about!

  • @jahjoeka
    @jahjoeka 5 месяцев назад +4

    As a kid this was my first cartoon death and the character didn't come back the next episode. I was shocked.

  • @dioshiba6066
    @dioshiba6066 5 месяцев назад +22

    I thought the Simpsons canonically jumped shark when they decided to make Seymore an imposter.

    • @TheSalamanderMenace4
      @TheSalamanderMenace4 5 месяцев назад +3

      Me too. That episode was trash.

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад +2

      But your fine with Homer in space

    • @TheSalamanderMenace4
      @TheSalamanderMenace4 5 месяцев назад

      @@nifralo2752 Careful, they're ruffled!!!

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheSalamanderMenace4 funny how the "canon crowrd" are fine with the retcon of grandpa and burns's backstories in raging abe simpson.
      Double standards much

    • @ShinSeikiEvan
      @ShinSeikiEvan 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@nifralo2752 That episode retconned nothing.

  • @mechajay3358
    @mechajay3358 5 месяцев назад +5

    In hindsight killing off Maude was a pretty dumb idea. They said it would lead to more interesting stories for Ned, but that just led to him becoming Fladerize (with his last name used as the term). And the episode itself came off mean-spirited.
    And yeah he was able to move on and married Enda, that too wouldn't last when her VA passed and so they had to retire the character and have him be a widower again.

  • @montanajackson3713
    @montanajackson3713 4 месяца назад +3

    One example of the show jumping the shark was where Homer and Marge get framed for murder and were about to be executed, but as it turns out it was all just a prank set up by a crazy reality show called “you got framed” ! This is one of the reasons why I prefer to think of the 2007 movie as the true finale of the series and everything else after that non-canon.

  • @NemesisOgreKing
    @NemesisOgreKing 5 месяцев назад +7

    Fox Executive #1: A million dollars, each! Are you fucking insane?
    Fox Executive #2: Oh, the show's momentum is slowing down. I doubt it'll last past 2002.
    *Simpsons gets 2004-2005 and 2005-2006 seasons.
    Fox Executives: D'oh!

    • @kate_cooper
      @kate_cooper 5 месяцев назад

      Unless I'm very much mistaken, the six main actors in Friends were each getting a million dollars per episode at one point as well.

  • @jaythomas468
    @jaythomas468 4 месяца назад +3

    I remember seeing the episode that Maude was killed off WHEN IT ORIGINALLY AIRED and I recall being STUNNED that they just killed off a mainstay character like that in such a goofy and unceremonious way.

  • @knuclear200x
    @knuclear200x 5 месяцев назад +10

    I remember crying and losing sleep when they killed her off. I also started hating Homer, because he just as much changed for the worst as any other character.

  • @Asukenick
    @Asukenick 5 месяцев назад +3

    Simpsons starting going downhill when they killed off Maude.

  • @lukebarber9511
    @lukebarber9511 5 месяцев назад +2

    To me, The Simpsons jumped the shark when in "Monty Can't Buy Me Love" Mr. Burns went on-air with the shock jock and endured his abuse without either ineffectually assaulting him, or ordering Smithers or his guards to have him beaten or killed.

    • @MR.FREEDMAN
      @MR.FREEDMAN 5 месяцев назад

      That's a great point.

  • @greeneyedbaldy
    @greeneyedbaldy 3 месяца назад

    "All good things must come to an end." I wish Fox had gotten that memo sometime in the early 2000s.

  • @Christoffski
    @Christoffski 4 месяца назад

    The Skinner episode is where it jumped the shark and started falling to its slow death.

  • @hyperiondragon
    @hyperiondragon 4 месяца назад +1

    She did Sherry Bobbins wow! Then they refused a few thousand dollars more?! Ridiculous.

  • @BenziBoy
    @BenziBoy 5 месяцев назад +2

    The show jumped the shark when the actors demanded more money, then the writers who made them funny wrote crap for them

  • @-chrisburke
    @-chrisburke 5 месяцев назад +5

    RIP Maude ❤

  • @hhassan5170
    @hhassan5170 4 месяца назад

    I think you're videos and channel are great mate. just found you on my recommended. I like how it's all clips edited instead of stills. Good luck and I hope your channels blows up✊🏿

  • @GameMusic4All
    @GameMusic4All 5 месяцев назад +8

    Show jumped the shark with the Screaming Caterpillar episode

    • @scockery
      @scockery 5 месяцев назад +4

      If I could pick a single episode, it would be the eyeballs hanging out of people's sockets. It was not a treehouse of horror or other non-canon episode. When they started doing the cartoon physics stuff like that it hurt the series. Stuff that should be only in halloween or itchy and scratchy gag. Like that episode where Homer gets mauled by a badger, lifts up his shirt and exposed organs. All for a crappy brief gag that if removed would've improve the episode.

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@scockerylike Homer in space season 6 or Homer survives falling off a cliff in season 2.
      So realistic wasnt it

    • @scockery
      @scockery 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@nifralo2752 the cliff resulted in serious injuries and hospitalization. It was a plot point. Homer in space wasn't an injury.

    • @JonSmith-hk1bq
      @JonSmith-hk1bq 4 месяца назад

      @@nifralo2752 Deep Space Homer wasn't too wild really. Premise was silly, but the only cartoonish thing was crashing into the reporter's convention. Otherwise it was played kinda straight. Even the last little bit of plot with Homer breaks the door, potentially burning them on re-entry, and then repairs it is somewhat realistic.
      Though, a fairly early one I can point to was the gag in Marge vs. the Monorail when the conjoined twins get split by the anchor and immediately high-five each other.

    • @bizarroeddie1
      @bizarroeddie1 4 месяца назад

      @@nifralo2752 so what are you trying to imply, that the Simpsons was never good or never got bad?

  • @ry2thepoint
    @ry2thepoint 9 дней назад

    1:03 radar didn’t die in mash. He left. It was one of the generals who died in the helicopter crash.

  • @Adarkane325xi
    @Adarkane325xi 4 месяца назад +1

    Darn, only 35,000 per episode? Basically per week? F-ck outta here.

  • @JetstreamGW
    @JetstreamGW 6 дней назад

    "Jerkass Homer."
    Your move!

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r Месяц назад

    I still miss when John Francis Daley played Sweets on Bones ❤

  • @TryTheRoachBurger
    @TryTheRoachBurger 4 месяца назад

    I just kinda wish they just made her either a quiet character or just had a temp voice for her, because only a handful of seasons later she returned to the series. Think of all the other stories they could have done with her and Ned that now can’t happen because of some studio meddling. (I do want to tho this is a great video that I can tell you put a lot of work in!)

  • @parkerpshebnisky1051
    @parkerpshebnisky1051 5 месяцев назад +1

    It’s pretty much the fox network’s fault on why the Simpsons went downhill!🙄

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r Месяц назад

    W/ the creators killing off Maude & voice actor Marcia Wallace passing away, I feel Ned can't catch a break. There was even a future episiode where old Ned had a wall w/ framed pics of hid past wives, other female characters on the show. Personally, I found that cruel

  • @guyburgess7832
    @guyburgess7832 4 месяца назад

    For me I can put up with a fair amount of whacky stuff (although I would say put up with, not enjoy), like the Skinner is an imposter, Homer is an astronaut (I actually really liked both those episodes) and all that sort of stuff. It's the departure from solid full plots, where characters have genuine interactions and conflicts and so on with jokes and gags added on like cake frosting. But modern seasons are just a massive string of jokes with a plot that barely makes any sense.
    For me, golden age episodes need to be watched in its entirety to be enjoyed. Modern episodes you could snip a 5 minutes chunk, almost at random, out of the episode and you wouldn't miss out on anything.

  • @theneonchimpchannel9095
    @theneonchimpchannel9095 5 месяцев назад +7

    I kept watching up until season 19. It was already on a downward spiral by then and this episode, along with The Principal and the Pauper were certainly signs of that. However, the episode that made me give up on The Simpsons was That 90s Show, the one where Homer invents grunge. It completely contradicted so much Simpsons lore. Suddenly, Homer and Marge met in the 90s despite the show having already been on the air by that point, The B Sharps never existed and so on. It really didn't sit well with me and was perhaps a sign that the show wasn't for the original fans anymore but rather the next generation. I'd check out a few episodes after that but I could never get as into it or as invested in it after that.

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 5 месяцев назад +1

      Yet you are fine with raging abe simpson changing grandpa's back story. Funny how canon and lore dont factor into that.

    • @ShinSeikiEvan
      @ShinSeikiEvan 5 месяцев назад +2

      @@nifralo2752 Boy, you sure are obsessed with that episode. Get a life!

  • @sweetreamer5101
    @sweetreamer5101 4 месяца назад

    Every complaint about the Simpsons on the internet lowers the brand's HP by a point. We just got a few million more to go.

  • @borntoclimb7116
    @borntoclimb7116 5 месяцев назад +4

    Pretty sad she is gone

  • @Ribelin2000
    @Ribelin2000 5 месяцев назад +6

    Fox *desperately* needs to "unalive" The Simpsons. It's been over 30 years since it premiered. Give it a rest. I mean, talk about staying *way* too long at the party. It's insane. The Simpsons is the ultimate zombie show.

    • @tosspot1305
      @tosspot1305 4 месяца назад

      'unalive'.. I can't stand that word.

    • @Ribelin2000
      @Ribelin2000 4 месяца назад +1

      @@tosspot1305 Me, neither. That's why I put it in quotes.

  • @backup368
    @backup368 5 месяцев назад +3

    You could say they "wrote her off".

    • @bltvd
      @bltvd 5 месяцев назад

      Dud

  • @neildennis7294
    @neildennis7294 5 месяцев назад +2

    Can someone explain to me why RUclips has a problem with the word KILL?

  • @latenightlogic
    @latenightlogic 5 месяцев назад +5

    There was nothing wrong with that Maude replacement. I didn’t even know there was a difference until now.
    The Simpson officially died when Maude was killed off. Ned is absolutely not a single father.
    That line at the end of ‘I’m glad Maude is dead’ makes watching this video a waste of time and assures I’ll never watch this channel again.

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy 3 месяца назад

    too bad for them, i guess, voice changer rays with chronotons hadn't been invented yet

  • @Tyway
    @Tyway 4 месяца назад +1

    Holy crap this is why we need more RUclips speedrunners. Contract issues. There i saved you all 11 minutes

  • @BlameMaxSand
    @BlameMaxSand 3 месяца назад

    I certainly remember this as one of, if not the, last episode I watched when it was new, and while I won't say I was mad or appalled at the time, I still don't watch the show. I wouldn't waste much energy complaining about it, didn't realize I had a complaint LOL, but it most certainly turned me off the show even tho I wasn't aware at the time.

  • @TheGreatAwesome
    @TheGreatAwesome 5 месяцев назад

    I didn't see any of the commercials so didn't know anyone was going to die. So it was a shock to me. I liked it because I thought the Simpsons was getting blah back in 96 so I liked how bizarre it got around 2000.

    • @muthafuckawhatchusay
      @muthafuckawhatchusay 4 месяца назад

      Yeah they peaked at season 5 and by '96 and beyond it seemed more and more "off"

  • @tonytom5242
    @tonytom5242 5 месяцев назад +1

    This was the last season I watched the Simpsons religiously... I'll catch the Halloween specials but haven't followed the series since the Movie

  • @anothergamingchannel2656
    @anothergamingchannel2656 5 месяцев назад +1

    You are so wrong sir! Bleeding gums Murphy is a legend and the fans will not stand for such slander. RIP 🙏

  • @christophersnyder1532
    @christophersnyder1532 5 месяцев назад +1

    If you are as old, and decrepid as I am, remember when the nitwit executives changed the voice cast of the animated series, The Real Ghostbusters? Lorenzo Music who originaly voiced Peter Venkman, was replaced by Dave Coulier, Laura Summers was Janine Melnitz and changed too, Kath Souchi, and Arsenio Hall, Winston Zeddemore changed too, Buster Jones.
    And it got worse when they added Slimer to the title, and it went downhill from there, with Extreme Ghostbusters, with yet another voice for Janine, Pat Musick.
    Now all I need to do is subscribe.
    Take care, and all the best.

  • @evandylan
    @evandylan 5 месяцев назад

    When it starts raining donuts, don’t let me leave that universe 😎

  • @liquidamerican8543
    @liquidamerican8543 5 месяцев назад +54

    19 seconds in and I get it. It was a contract issue. She either wanted more money or they just didn't want to renew her so they could pay others more money. Why does this need to be a 10.5 min video? Let me guess, you're going to explain what the Simpsons is, who Flanders is, who his wife was. Her role on the show blah blah blah before you ever get to the point of the video which I now already know from your intro. No thanks. Everything doesn't need a video essay.

    • @RealWolfmanDan
      @RealWolfmanDan 5 месяцев назад +1

      How about watch the whole video instead of being a wanker? Why did you even click on the video? Just to make a jerkoff comment?
      This was an informative and well done video.

    • @scockery
      @scockery 5 месяцев назад +6

      It was a little more. They did recast Maude with another actress but then decided to off her for shock value.

    • @Krang-l5u
      @Krang-l5u 5 месяцев назад +31

      Why is this comment so long? Not everything needs to be a written essay.

    • @de132
      @de132 5 месяцев назад +12

      Harsh comment since he didn't explain what the Simpsons is and didn't explain who Maude or the Flanders are.

    • @kylerstorm9260
      @kylerstorm9260 5 месяцев назад +3

      ur so cool

  • @peko-chan1764
    @peko-chan1764 5 месяцев назад +2

    Great video!! You're gonna blow up soon I feel it

  • @jrk22233
    @jrk22233 5 месяцев назад

    I was a kid when this episode came out i gotta admit im with you on the vicking warship idea i liked it when i was a kid to young to understand contract negotiations

  • @MR.FREEDMAN
    @MR.FREEDMAN 5 месяцев назад

    This review was great

  • @DikaWolf
    @DikaWolf 5 месяцев назад +1

    1:02 Why did you show Gary Burghoff (Radar O'Reilly)? McLean Stevenson played Henry Blake, not Radar. Radar actually lived on to appear in the M.A.S.H sequel.

    • @cdev2117
      @cdev2117 4 месяца назад

      Because it's from the scene were Radar comes into the OR and tells them that Henry died.

    • @DikaWolf
      @DikaWolf 4 месяца назад

      @@cdev2117 And that made more sense to show those who've never seen M.A.S.H. than just showing a picture of McLean Stevenson as Henry Blake?

    • @ry2thepoint
      @ry2thepoint 9 дней назад

      Didn’t see this an made a similar comment. Why does everyone think the most long lived movie to show character went down in a helicopter? Probs cause he always heard them coming and it seemed fitting in a dark sense

  • @jahjoeka
    @jahjoeka 5 месяцев назад

    They could bring her back anytime and nobody would care.

  • @Gurziak
    @Gurziak 5 месяцев назад +5

    Virtual Bart can be beaten. Lol

  • @lmfislb
    @lmfislb 5 месяцев назад

    The Principal and the Pauper is when they jumped the shark

  • @kolonarulez5222
    @kolonarulez5222 5 месяцев назад

    Agreed with the ending I hope they never stop making The Simpsons

  • @F1ghtGam3r
    @F1ghtGam3r Месяц назад

    Pamela Hayden recently retired

  • @Mechaghostman2
    @Mechaghostman2 4 месяца назад +1

    Jerk ass Homer.

  • @ShaunShaffer-if3nx
    @ShaunShaffer-if3nx 5 месяцев назад

    I LOVE how you tore those whiny hardcore Simpsons fans who bitch and complain about episodes from 25 years ago to today! That'll show those S.O.B.'S!

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 5 месяцев назад

    I think it would be great, if a clone of MAUDE FLANDERS, could get made, and shown in the (FUTURAMA) cartoon show.
    I imagine the clone, of Maude Flanders, is made by a lady who admired her, and thinks MAUDE would be great for her insecure son.

  • @badad0166
    @badad0166 4 месяца назад

    It seemed so petty at the time. I'm glad to learn she got to remote the work she got after. Wave of the future! (the future is now)

  • @Vancouverallday
    @Vancouverallday 4 месяца назад

    Pls no Edmonton is bad enough but Winnipeg??

  • @TheBraydenBunch58
    @TheBraydenBunch58 5 месяцев назад +2

    “OH NO SOMEONE UNALIVED MY GRANDPA!!!1!!!1!!!"
    *that’s so stupid*

  • @mrbearbear83
    @mrbearbear83 5 месяцев назад

    It was 24 years ago?!

  • @Realunmaker
    @Realunmaker 5 месяцев назад +1

    If the rest of the channel is like this I’m subscribing

  • @marshallw1902
    @marshallw1902 Месяц назад

    You hope the show goes on forever? Lol, good luck with that when the VA's and or showrunners (god forbid) start dropping like flies and or severely unable to voice either due to age or health issues that the series will see a drop in viewship with none of any replacement voices doing much in the long run.

  • @robertkillis8490
    @robertkillis8490 5 месяцев назад

    Am the one who parked in the ambulance zone, preventing any chance of resecatation😂

  • @KaisWorld1687
    @KaisWorld1687 4 месяца назад

    1:37 sure I do i was there

  • @Klipschrf35
    @Klipschrf35 4 месяца назад

    Principal and the pauper

  • @intellectually_lazy
    @intellectually_lazy 3 месяца назад

    i grasp it. i 'member. kid, i used to watch 'em on tracy ullman

  • @BobTheBuilder294
    @BobTheBuilder294 5 месяцев назад

    Now make an episode on how they killed off Edna Krabappel

  • @AccountNotAvailable404
    @AccountNotAvailable404 4 месяца назад

    This has great funny parts, but I skip over it. It is a very sad episode.

  • @Underland76
    @Underland76 4 месяца назад

    i live in Winnipeg

  • @lynseyluvsatwink9800
    @lynseyluvsatwink9800 5 месяцев назад

    I quit watching The Simpsons after the Charles Whitman episode in season 14

    • @JenSell1626
      @JenSell1626 5 месяцев назад

      I quit about the time of Tomacco, possibly 13 or 14

  • @IAmMisterD
    @IAmMisterD 4 месяца назад

    Downvoted for "unalived" usage.
    Grow up lol

  • @CHECKthisvid
    @CHECKthisvid 5 месяцев назад

    Dat thumbnail tho

  • @Imperius146
    @Imperius146 4 месяца назад

    Stopped watching when it went woke

  • @zzay3345
    @zzay3345 5 месяцев назад

    Analytics

  • @danielbloomquist9810
    @danielbloomquist9810 5 месяцев назад

    So she was transformed into a corpse that never ages or decays? I ask because that would be the inverse of ghosts, vampires, ghouls, and any other dead thing that behaves as though it is not AKA undead.
    I am, of course, being a smartass. I am fully aware that "unalive" is NOT a word and that to pretend as though it were is just plain foolish.

  • @icecreamhero2375
    @icecreamhero2375 5 месяцев назад

    I am cool with things the way they are.

  • @chad9186
    @chad9186 5 месяцев назад +1

    They did it better than King of the Hill, they were making it too obvious it would be Buckley

  • @edwardperkins1225
    @edwardperkins1225 5 месяцев назад

    Not sure why you spent the whole video showing why it was an objectively bad decsion to kill her then said it was a good thing in the end. It was one of the many signs the Simpsons had declined. Turning it into a joke like they did also made it seem much more mean spirited and only about getting rid of her. Good way to deflate all the hype too. If she'd got something terminal and Ned had to say his goodbyes at least that would have seemed sincere. No, I don't think Simpsons will be around forever. They're went from antiestablishment for the people to supporting the establishment, and lost their uniqueness.
    I suppose Transformers:The Movie did worse in that killing Optimus would have been like killing Homer for the Simpsons. They only got one more season and bringing him back later after all the complaints from viewers didn't save them. The movie wrote that death sincerely, but everything after it suffered. Killing characters is way overrated by writters unless it's taking down a villian and it's part of the plot goal. Those are the only ones who stay around too long in a story.