If you're on your P plates, this is a list of mods you must avoid at all costs. If you own a naturally aspirated Falcon some of these might still be useful to adhere to.
I strongly remember a fistfight breaking out after a midnight street drag 20+ years back after it was discovered that one party had an undeclared CAI installed.
Great advice, save for a house, keep your Falc clean , tidy and legal. Not only will the Plods not be attracted but your resale will be better too. I’m a 50+ dinosaur and still keep my Falcs factory spec because I don’t want the attention.
I will say cheap coilovers can be good for learning how to set up your car for different driving styles, if you adjust it wrong, it's not like you're ruining $2500 in parts
I bought a stock BA XT about 2 and a half years ago. Got my red Ps and put it on the road. Now on my green Ps and just contemplating if i should throw on an exhaust and some extractors 🥱 Its never going to pull or make some power but i might as well enjoy it lmao
A tune is worthwhile ( to a limit ). especially if you want to remove the toque limiting factor of the engines ecu. Im not saying a tune can give you an extra 100 kw, but they do help with the daily driving ability of the falcon.
When Ford Australia was in the R&D process with the FG they did thousands of hours of testing to find out what made more power and torque whether the engine was an NA or turbo. But of course that doesn't sit well with all the "know it all" people. If you're a P plate driver and you want to buy an FG and the one you're looking at has heaps of after market mods done then ask the seller why are they selling the car and who did those mods and ask for receipts and why it was done. If they can't give a satisfactory answer or produce the receipts then put your wallet back in you pocket and run away because you're buying a heap of problems. As the FG's age which ones are still daily drivers?. The ones with no mods done to them and it's the same for all Falcons because many mods only shorten the life of the car done by some backyard "know it all" who stuffs the car and now wants to get rid of the wreck they've created.
@@fgmods In NT if the vehicle is 10 years and older it requires an annual inspection and every time when you purchase a second hand vehicle from interstate.
I think a big factor is how you drive. My car is loud, tuned for the mods and all the p plate bits but I get no issues from the cops. I also don’t slide my car around every corner and sit said loud exhaust on limiter
Totally agree with you mate the P stands for Punces in Falcons and Commodores you forgot about the wider rims and fatter tyres bulging out past the guard's but hey we were all P platters once with age comes hindsight and wisdom
I have turbo xr6. But im building an rtv ute. I want to keep it na. I am contemplating fitting gas rods (stronger) and gas pistons . They are dome tops. The ute has extractors . Ill get it tuned on the dyno. The higher compression should pick up a bit of performance.
I see where your coming from with the exhaust side of things but every single high powered build has an aftermarket exhaust with high-flow cats and a larger diameter pipe, so is it just sound? Or are there differences for forced induction vs na?
@@fgmodswhat about it being on an na is bad? I have a full xforce exhaust and pacemaker extractors on a ba I bought, and it’s great, very noticeable power and torque increase, sounds orgasmic, I don’t see the downsides here? If it’s purely because it’s on an na I respect the p plater hate but say it 😂
I have an intake an exhaust, a tune and it's lowered. whoops.. I guess it's a little different cause it's a 410kw turbo, the exhaust is relatively quiet and it's lowered by like half a cm on BC coilovers
I’m being deadass when I say I noticed a big difference in my FG XR6 NA Mk2 Sedan. Either I had a blocked stock exhaust or it actually makes a good difference. Maybe on the dyno it seems to be the same crap but the car drives very differently and the power delivery is definitely better. The numbers don’t matter for an NA but definitely the power delivery has changed. I added a high flow cat + 1 hot dog resonator + 2x sport mufflers which was done to replace the stock parts of my exhaust. I done this setup so when a cop looks under he will still see 2 mufflers. My car sounds loud if I give it more petrol but when I drive like grandma it’s quiet which is a perfect p plate setup I reckon.
Whilst I agree about the CAI not increasing power, you did touch on this, but sound is the big thing. More so if you change the intake piping to metal from plastic. Metal reverberates sound more which is why manufacturers opt for plastic intake piping.. it's quieter. So if you add a "CAI" and metal intake piping, you'll get a very noticeable change in sound from the inside and outside of the car.
Alot of these mods and the performance gains associated with them come from old school car culture. Back when people were hotting up xfs going from the Webber to a 350 Holley and going from a 1.75" exhaust to a 2.25" exhaust could give you some serious HP due to how choked things were back then. Nowadays manufacturers can squeeze out better efficiency using computers and thus make good HP from the factory.
Engines just a big air pump. More air in needs more fuel in which needs more air out. Waste of time and $$$ without a tune to take advantage of said mods. Only by product of the above is an empty wallet and the few extra wasps occasionally
The factory PCM is able to adjust its fuel tables when there’s more air. But these intakes don’t give it more air because the factory box isn’t restricting air intake.
Hey question how can i do a "Road legal track car" Like remove most of the weight! and what should i avoid taking off, i heard seats rear stripped will get u a defect!
1. I have a twin turbo bmw 328i 2. I have no catalytic converter 3. I have a old air intake and it made power 4. I have a stage 2 98RON tune with 1200cc Eu5 S63TU injectors with several engine mods 5. My car is insanely illegal cos I’m on my green Ps 😂
Intakes and exhausts definitely add power, took my stock l98 6.0 litre and threw an exhaust and OTR in take on it and made 250rwkw and thats before getting it tuned to the exhaustand intake, thats about 40kw more than they make stock, cam and heads pushed mine up to 330rwkw
Okay so CAI’s and full exhaust systems on their own don’t add any power, but what about if the car is tuned with those mods installed? Can a modified n/a falcon make more power on the same dyno as a stock n/a falcon that has also been tuned?
I did headers and a custom exhaust on my na xg but it was more to clean up the look of the motor and engine bay, I have a high flow car and twin muffler system so it’s not an attention grabbing exhaust
Yep I think they can sound awesome. It’s just foolishness to try make your car as loud as possible while on P’s and then having police all over you for it.
When i was on my Green Ps i had a BA XR6 Turbo it was lowered but not a lot it was on 20s cat back exhurst external gate screamer pipe and dose pipe the only time i got pulled over was for a actual RBT all they said was nice car and let me go on my Ls and Both Ps i never lost one point then 2 weeks on my fulls i lost it for 3 months for speeding
5:25 what I have done is that I left the headers and the cat stock but put a 2.5 inch cat back that I also got made 7:15 I couldn’t never lower mine the roads are so bad where I live it’s not funny
Got a cheap ebay exhaust loud as hell never been done for it now the car is getting a turbo motor in with a hdi stage 3 intercooler and battery relocation oil pump gears done head studs valve springs gonna look nothing like stock haha on my ls i dont wanna get my ps course im scared ill be done straight away and have to start all over again lol so im just waiting my honda civic is probably gonna fk me before me xr6 does lol going for oem stock look got a f6 typhoon body kit and ready to put on when i get car back gonna go with a Metallic blue cars gonna be sexy as fuck
What’s the point of being on your Ps and not doing extractors, CAI and stickers? Might as well drive ya mum’s car. And I’m pretty sure engineers at Ford weren’t designing for optimum power but were governed by a few things such a cost control when designing the exhaust. Engineering is always a balance of optimum and affordable.
Don't suppose you've got any advice on how to avoid having to buy a second hand ECU every few years for my FG XR6? Seems the only other option is really expensive ($1,145.00 plus postage), 12 month only warranty, reconditioned ECU's. 🤔
@fgmods Well, basically, because Ford cannot find what is causing the intermittent non-starting and the only solution in the past was a new ECU/PCM. Trouble is, even with the second hand unit I replaced recently, I'm still experiencing the same problem. Alternator and battery replaced.🤔. Oh, and to the other comment (machine builder) get it right. Hungry Jack's, man. 🤭
Don’t tell p platers to stop ricing falcons and commodores, it’s the riced ones that sell for cheap because the dude selling it is broke from spending his paycheck on stickers and “xforce or redback” exhausts😂 we gotta keep the prices low
If the intake air temp is lower, there will always be more oxygen molecules flowing into the engine, it’s just science. Whether or not it ads even a full horsepower, it’s the truth.
Idk if I can agree with any of these. I mean yeah it’s facts in a way but who cares if people want unpractical cars. Or how they spend their money on their car. Idk just my opinion
It’s mostly about warning them that there WILL be extra police attention on them if they go ridiculous, and that in terms of performance it’s all a big waste of money. I’ve done all the dumb P plate stuff myself. So hopefully I can use my own experience to help people who are just getting into cars.
Everyone saying they haven't been bothered by cops.. must live in a lower socio-economic area, anywhere posh you will get pulled over every cop you pass. Northern beaches sydney
@@fgmods Bahahaha, people don’t under a NA motor will only pull in so much air the piston can pull in and push out. Till you force feed air, fuel to compliment that air. I seen people say there got 170kw to 190kws. Love to know how. Most we can get is 157kws with exhaust, air filter, out of a stock NA Barra. No matter what we bolted on It still runs 15.6 to 15.9, passes. Now if we bolt a supercharger or turbo force feeding that huge amount of the supplying the fuel to match. Now will see gains. Just amazing how people get sucked into it all.
A 2011 g6e turbo makes 270kW and weighs about 1700kg. Assuming you've got an extra 100kg in the car that's still a power to weight ratio of 150kW / tonne
If your car is making 290HP then that’s how much it was capable of making with just the tune. The intake and exhaust didn’t do anything for performance.
Gday guys. I just purchased my fg g6e. Loving it. Im interested in changing the exhaust. How far can i change before i get a check engine light. All the way up to the cat converter? Thanks
I don’t think anyone actually cares about the power gain when adding an exhaust, they just want it to sound sick lad
This sounds like 5 great P plater mods, I’m almost there just lowering left
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I strongly remember a fistfight breaking out after a midnight street drag 20+ years back after it was discovered that one party had an undeclared CAI installed.
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Random breath test had me pulled over 3rd day on my Ls hahahah 😂
Got done while go got done with weed in my system after having a fat sesh fought the charge though
Great advice, save for a house, keep your Falc clean , tidy and legal. Not only will the Plods not be attracted but your resale will be better too. I’m a 50+ dinosaur and still keep my Falcs factory spec because I don’t want the attention.
those cold air intakes are much better than an exposed pod filter in the engine bay, which is what they are good for preventing
I will say cheap coilovers can be good for learning how to set up your car for different driving styles, if you adjust it wrong, it's not like you're ruining $2500 in parts
I bought a stock BA XT about 2 and a half years ago. Got my red Ps and put it on the road. Now on my green Ps and just contemplating if i should throw on an exhaust and some extractors 🥱 Its never going to pull or make some power but i might as well enjoy it lmao
My fg ute is lowered & has an exhaust. Never been pulled over 🤔
Lucky man. I can’t go a day without seeing a kid with the car slammed and loud AF exhaust complaining about getting canaried.
@@fgmodswhat state are you in?
A tune is worthwhile ( to a limit ). especially if you want to remove the toque limiting factor of the engines ecu. Im not saying a tune can give you an extra 100 kw, but they do help with the daily driving ability of the falcon.
When Ford Australia was in the R&D process with the FG they did thousands of hours of testing to find out what made more power and torque whether the engine was an NA or turbo. But of course that doesn't sit well with all the "know it all" people. If you're a P plate driver and you want to buy an FG and the one you're looking at has heaps of after market mods done then ask the seller why are they selling the car and who did those mods and ask for receipts and why it was done. If they can't give a satisfactory answer or produce the receipts then put your wallet back in you pocket and run away because you're buying a heap of problems. As the FG's age which ones are still daily drivers?. The ones with no mods done to them and it's the same for all Falcons because many mods only shorten the life of the car done by some backyard "know it all" who stuffs the car and now wants to get rid of the wreck they've created.
Another reason not to molest a Ford Falcon is the resale value and not to mention less hassle with passing rego inspections.
Pretty sure only VIC requires inspections to renew rego. In QLD & NSW it’s supposed to be required for sale.
@@fgmods In NT if the vehicle is 10 years and older it requires an annual inspection and every time when you purchase a second hand vehicle from interstate.
Biggest mod, don't be a dick when driving.
I think a big factor is how you drive. My car is loud, tuned for the mods and all the p plate bits but I get no issues from the cops. I also don’t slide my car around every corner and sit said loud exhaust on limiter
Totally agree with you mate the P stands for Punces in Falcons and Commodores you forgot about the wider rims and fatter tyres bulging out past the guard's but hey we were all P platters once with age comes hindsight and wisdom
I have turbo xr6. But im building an rtv ute. I want to keep it na. I am contemplating fitting gas rods (stronger) and gas pistons . They are dome tops. The ute has extractors . Ill get it tuned on the dyno. The higher compression should pick up a bit of performance.
I have a Jeremy Clarkson "Speed and Power" sticker on my back right window, adds at least 50 KW to my N/A stock Ford Falcon
The nice cold air intake is a finishing touch once you spent all you can on your engine to the point of pure cosmetic upgrades
I see where your coming from with the exhaust side of things but every single high powered build has an aftermarket exhaust with high-flow cats and a larger diameter pipe, so is it just sound? Or are there differences for forced induction vs na?
It’s P plate mods so strictly NA in this case.
Absolutely on Turbo you want bigger exhaust to get those exhaust gases away.
@@fgmodswhat about it being on an na is bad? I have a full xforce exhaust and pacemaker extractors on a ba I bought, and it’s great, very noticeable power and torque increase, sounds orgasmic, I don’t see the downsides here? If it’s purely because it’s on an na I respect the p plater hate but say it 😂
So wait until your full license and slap a marketplace v8 in a cheap roller.
I have an intake an exhaust, a tune and it's lowered. whoops..
I guess it's a little different cause it's a 410kw turbo, the exhaust is relatively quiet and it's lowered by like half a cm on BC coilovers
I’m being deadass when I say I noticed a big difference in my FG XR6 NA Mk2 Sedan. Either I had a blocked stock exhaust or it actually makes a good difference. Maybe on the dyno it seems to be the same crap but the car drives very differently and the power delivery is definitely better. The numbers don’t matter for an NA but definitely the power delivery has changed. I added a high flow cat + 1 hot dog resonator + 2x sport mufflers which was done to replace the stock parts of my exhaust. I done this setup so when a cop looks under he will still see 2 mufflers. My car sounds loud if I give it more petrol but when I drive like grandma it’s quiet which is a perfect p plate setup I reckon.
Whilst I agree about the CAI not increasing power, you did touch on this, but sound is the big thing. More so if you change the intake piping to metal from plastic. Metal reverberates sound more which is why manufacturers opt for plastic intake piping.. it's quieter. So if you add a "CAI" and metal intake piping, you'll get a very noticeable change in sound from the inside and outside of the car.
Children need GUIDANCE
Real men race the track
Not the street
Gov should have events every weekend for children to play
Alot of these mods and the performance gains associated with them come from old school car culture. Back when people were hotting up xfs going from the Webber to a 350 Holley and going from a 1.75" exhaust to a 2.25" exhaust could give you some serious HP due to how choked things were back then. Nowadays manufacturers can squeeze out better efficiency using computers and thus make good HP from the factory.
Engines just a big air pump. More air in needs more fuel in which needs more air out. Waste of time and $$$ without a tune to take advantage of said mods. Only by product of the above is an empty wallet and the few extra wasps occasionally
The factory PCM is able to adjust its fuel tables when there’s more air. But these intakes don’t give it more air because the factory box isn’t restricting air intake.
first mod to avoid cop attention is club fg stickers
Hey question how can i do a "Road legal track car" Like remove most of the weight! and what should i avoid taking off, i heard seats rear stripped will get u a defect!
1. I have a twin turbo bmw 328i
2. I have no catalytic converter
3. I have a old air intake and it made power
4. I have a stage 2 98RON tune with 1200cc Eu5 S63TU injectors with several engine mods
5. My car is insanely illegal cos I’m on my green Ps 😂
Cold air intake*
Intakes and exhausts definitely add power, took my stock l98 6.0 litre and threw an exhaust and OTR in take on it and made 250rwkw and thats before getting it tuned to the exhaustand intake, thats about 40kw more than they make stock, cam and heads pushed mine up to 330rwkw
Okay so CAI’s and full exhaust systems on their own don’t add any power, but what about if the car is tuned with those mods installed? Can a modified n/a falcon make more power on the same dyno as a stock n/a falcon that has also been tuned?
That would be a great comparison
I did headers and a custom exhaust on my na xg but it was more to clean up the look of the motor and engine bay, I have a high flow car and twin muffler system so it’s not an attention grabbing exhaust
So glad this is coming from a fellow Falcon. What mods would you recommend my dude??
BA mk II
welded diff, chopped springs, muffler delete and some chasers on the rear
@@cxezu🤣🤣🤣fuck yeah my bro
F6 twists 19", paint the calipers red, add a bluetooth 3.5 mm to an audio booster to modernise the audio. Nothing more. Drive it and enjoy!
Ssl king springs all around on a fg is legal btw😁
I had ford ba xt 3.5 inch exhaust and cam and airbags cops love me
Making an Na sound better is one of the main mods though audible joy is most of the fun about having a low powered car
Yep I think they can sound awesome.
It’s just foolishness to try make your car as loud as possible while on P’s and then having police all over you for it.
When i was on my Green Ps i had a BA XR6 Turbo it was lowered but not a lot it was on 20s cat back exhurst external gate screamer pipe and dose pipe the only time i got pulled over was for a actual RBT all they said was nice car and let me go on my Ls and Both Ps i never lost one point then 2 weeks on my fulls i lost it for 3 months for speeding
5:25 what I have done is that I left the headers and the cat stock but put a 2.5 inch cat back that I also got made
7:15 I couldn’t never lower mine the roads are so bad where I live it’s not funny
Why do our cars have to be roadworthy when the road isn’t car worthy?
i drive an au ‘xr6’ wagon with a full exhaust system which is lowered on my P2s and i haven’t attracted any police. maybe i’m just lucky 😂😂
Got a cheap ebay exhaust loud as hell never been done for it now the car is getting a turbo motor in with a hdi stage 3 intercooler and battery relocation oil pump gears done head studs valve springs gonna look nothing like stock haha on my ls i dont wanna get my ps course im scared ill be done straight away and have to start all over again lol so im just waiting my honda civic is probably gonna fk me before me xr6 does lol going for oem stock look got a f6 typhoon body kit and ready to put on when i get car back gonna go with a Metallic blue cars gonna be sexy as fuck
What’s the point of being on your Ps and not doing extractors, CAI and stickers? Might as well drive ya mum’s car. And I’m pretty sure engineers at Ford weren’t designing for optimum power but were governed by a few things such a cost control when designing the exhaust. Engineering is always a balance of optimum and affordable.
Yo, you said the intake and all doesn’t work, but can you explain how? Cheers bro
Don't suppose you've got any advice on how to avoid having to buy a second hand ECU every few years for my FG XR6? Seems the only other option is really expensive ($1,145.00 plus postage), 12 month only warranty, reconditioned ECU's. 🤔
Why the hell are you buying new ECUs for your Falcon?
@@fgmods Didn't you know that maccas drive throughs wear down ECUs?
@fgmods Well, basically, because Ford cannot find what is causing the intermittent non-starting and the only solution in the past was a new ECU/PCM. Trouble is, even with the second hand unit I replaced recently, I'm still experiencing the same problem. Alternator and battery replaced.🤔. Oh, and to the other comment (machine builder) get it right. Hungry Jack's, man. 🤭
Don’t tell p platers to stop ricing falcons and commodores, it’s the riced ones that sell for cheap because the dude selling it is broke from spending his paycheck on stickers and “xforce or redback” exhausts😂 we gotta keep the prices low
I have a factory turbo car so that’s why I have an intake 👏
If the intake air temp is lower, there will always be more oxygen molecules flowing into the engine, it’s just science. Whether or not it ads even a full horsepower, it’s the truth.
However yes I agree the price for them is exorbitant when it may not even be better than a factory airbox
I've got an el fairmont, with headers and exhaust sittingbon its bum and ive never been bothered on p plates
As someone who owns an au xr6 shitbox I feel offended by the thumbnail😂
Idk if I can agree with any of these. I mean yeah it’s facts in a way but who cares if people want unpractical cars. Or how they spend their money on their car. Idk just my opinion
It’s mostly about warning them that there WILL be extra police attention on them if they go ridiculous, and that in terms of performance it’s all a big waste of money.
I’ve done all the dumb P plate stuff myself. So hopefully I can use my own experience to help people who are just getting into cars.
Everyone saying they haven't been bothered by cops.. must live in a lower socio-economic area, anywhere posh you will get pulled over every cop you pass.
Northern beaches sydney
What's the best mod to do that doesn't drain fuel
sending this to all my NA friends
Do it
Mate you need to stop telling people the truth about NA cars, this is how we make money on clueless people.
Maybe I should be making these parts myself and doing these dodgy dyno runs.
Seems like a lot of people will defend obvious BS to the death.
@@fgmods Bahahaha, people don’t under a NA motor will only pull in so much air the piston can pull in and push out. Till you force feed air, fuel to compliment that air.
I seen people say there got 170kw to 190kws. Love to know how.
Most we can get is 157kws with exhaust, air filter, out of a stock NA Barra. No matter what we bolted on
It still runs 15.6 to 15.9, passes.
Now if we bolt a supercharger or turbo force feeding that huge amount of the supplying the fuel to match. Now will see gains.
Just amazing how people get sucked into it all.
just go get a tune
TURBOS ARE LEGAL THE LIMITS ARE 130KW PER TON
A 2011 g6e turbo makes 270kW and weighs about 1700kg. Assuming you've got an extra 100kg in the car that's still a power to weight ratio of 150kW / tonne
Pee pee players on the road lol
There literally all the mods on my mates falcon 😂
N/A falcon with an after market exhaust is just crap, save your money
I think they can sound good. Just don’t go trying to make it as loud as possible then complaining about police attention.
How is it then with intake and full exhaust n a tune my fg mk1 makes 290 hp to the wheels on 98
Can I have what your on.
If your car is making 290HP then that’s how much it was capable of making with just the tune.
The intake and exhaust didn’t do anything for performance.
is that NA
Idk my stock fg intake keeps splitting idk why
Nice try fed. I'm not paying my taxes.
No hate but adding an exhaust has been proven to add more power same as cold air intake😂
7:17 🤣
Rip off Yorakhunt
I don’t even know who that is
Boring
Gday guys. I just purchased my fg g6e. Loving it. Im interested in changing the exhaust. How far can i change before i get a check engine light. All the way up to the cat converter? Thanks