At last, a better YHM suppressor mount
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- Опубликовано: 1 окт 2024
- No collars or ratchets, only threads. The Yankee Hill Machine Co SRX system is a much needed, long overdue, replacement for the Phantom QD family of mounts and muzzle devices. In this video we go over the mount, and the currently available muzzle devices.
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People in R&D watching Hop take a Dremel tool to a muzzle brake then talking to each other about what they should have for lunch.
If only this had come out before I had spent hundreds of dollars and hours finding muzzle devices for the old system for my favorite rifles. Oh, and TIMING them...
I have no YHM cans and no intention to buy one, but I love me an informative, no-nonsense Hop video. Thanks Hop!
I can't legally own a suppressor where I live, and I still watch his suppressor videos lol
Funny thing is yhm is hq'ed in a state where normi3s can't own cans
@@Token_Black_Guy So is Surefire. They're in CA.
Just like Aeroprecision in Washington, after their "assault weapons" ban. LOL @@Token_Black_Guy
Nothing wrong with YHM cans. They’re solid, affordable, and get the job done.
Watching Hop demonstrate his elite gunsmithing skills rustled my jimmies in all the right ways.
In my opinion, making a silencer with HUB compatability kindof already assumes people are going to use aftermarket mounts. I think you are spot on with the idea of yhm offering a silencer with no mount, or maybe just a direct thread adapter appropriate for the caliber.
If I recall correctly, Capital Armory gives the option to order without a muzzle device and mount for a discount.
If yhm offered their suppressors with a direct thread adapter, I'd take that option for sure. At least it's something I'd potentially want later. For what it's worth I have a resonator k with atlas and a2 style flash hiders, pretty sweet so far.
@@willflint8443The R9 is shipped with a 1/2" x 28 direct thread adapter. I just got mine out of jail yesterday and my SRX devices should be here this weekend!
I wish sRx was plan B compatible.
Ecco machine sells all his cans without a mount, its pretty nice
Very happy with the SRX system and YHM products in general. Great value for what you get.
Totally bizarre that they don't have 1/2 x 28 short flash hider. I actually quite like the older Kurz flash + Phantom QD setup, however not the best for sure.
they do, the info from hop on that part is about as complete as the personality. I own at least a half dozen just in 1/2x28 because I was an early yhm adopter. SKU: YHM-4315-28a for 1/2x28 (5.56, 22 cal. etc) and YHM-4315-24A for 5/8x24 (30 cal, 308 etc.)
Yes the new ones are shorter overall because of the over mount attachment, but they do indeed have an old style short flash hider for 30 cal and 22 cal.
Also, fyi, YHM's compatibility guide claims certain long 1/2x28 mounts will not work with their turbo k with kurz adapter, and I've found that not to be the case, it's worked with all the 43 series I've tried, mind you I only bought the long flash hiders and long breaks (its a maximum length callout and the shorts all work), not the cringy spiked end flashider that works with the can.
@@chadjones7722 Yes, I have two of these. I was talking about the new system.
@@chadjones7722 "is about as complete as the personality" What?
5/8-32 and 11/16x24 are for some 9mm and .45ACP PCC muzzle threads.
TBH, you're kinda selling me on YHM cans.
I don't know if I want to sell you on them. But I do really want a turbo k RB
I think the problem is that by the time you've found an insert that is right for you, you've easily spent an extra $140-280 plus mounts plus any "try out bin" inserts/mounts, and could have just bought a different can that comes with your actual desired interface to begin with
@@DD-hz3ts As an occasional gun sperg, and owner of a business that has a tool room that includes a lathe and a mill, I looked specifically at mounts that would be easy to machine, and any with a standard thread and a taper are pretty easy to cut, by hand on a manual lathe in an hour or so. 10+ years ago I designed some threaded taper type mounts, the biggest headache I made for myself was using acme type threads. That said, the threads and then taper type are easier to make than the taper than thread type, the difference is marginal, but still present, especially when you're a lazy machinist.
Hey Hop. Please check out a griffin can. I can probably get you one for free. I've become quite good friends (as random internet conversations go) with the owner, but would love to see your review. Their new Recce5k looks amazing.
I want to get some of that furniture but there has been issues with their plastics suppliers... Griffin is so fire
Dumb proprietary muzzle devices are dumb
Just got my yhm turbo back from yhm. Blew the living fuck out of it using the dead air hub keymo mount
as a rearden fanboy im eagerly awaiting your review of their systems.
this was an excellant video, thanks as always and keep up the amazing work!
I'm waiting for a company to come out with a 'revolutionary standardized taper thread mount' that looks suspiciously like NPT threads.
The odd ones you saw are most likely AK muzzle threads. 14x1 L is the AKM standard so most 7.62x39 AKs will have that. The AK 100 series, AK-74 and AKS-74U pattern will be 24x1.5 . Romanian AKs use a 22x1.5 thread pitch. The older Yugoslavian PAP pattern thread pitch is 26mm
Helpful comment, thanks!
He is referring to 11/16x24 (it's highlighted in the video at 5:10) which IIRC is a thread pattern found on .458 rifles.
Dang Hop, this video almost makes me want to buy a YHM suppressor... But paying the feds that much money is really hard for me to want to do. Good job YHM, and thanks as always Hop.
In my opinion Rearden fixed this years ago and I look forward to the day when everything is cheaper and comes as hub only with no adapter, like every rifle that now comes with no sights.
If they had the short flash hider and brake in ½-28, I'd swap out all my current muzzle devices this fall/winter. I especially like the fact that there is less stuff on the muzzle device, reducing weight where it matters most (especially since I'm *not* running cans on everything all the time - I just like to have the option.
they do, the info from hop on that part is about as complete as the personality. I own at least a half dozen just in 1/2x28 because I was an early yhm adopter. SKU: YHM-4315-28a for 1/2x28 (5.56, 22 cal. etc) and YHM-4315-24A for 5/8x24 (30 cal, 308 etc.)
Yes the new ones are shorter overall because of the over mount attachment, but they do indeed have an old style short flash hider for 30 cal and 22 cal.
Also, fyi, YHM's compatibility guide claims certain long 1/2x28 mounts will not work with their turbo k with kurz adapter, and I've found that not to be the case, it's worked with all the 43 series I've tried, mind you I only bought the long flash hiders and long breaks (its a maximum length callout and the shorts all work), not the cringy spiked end flashider that works with the can.
@@chadjones7722 These are *exactly* the mounts he is *not* talking about. He's talking about the short sRx flash hider or muzzle brake not being available in ½-28.
*You're* talking about the older Phantom mounts that I've already got and would prefer to replace with sRx if they had the shorties in ½-28. *We know* they have those thread patterns in the older Phantom mounts (that are inferior to the sRx system).
Hop! YHM was watching your channel. The new Fat Cat comes with the SRX mount and a short 1/2x28 muzzle brake.
Late to the party... John "FocusTripp" and yourself are similar in your ways.
"Stay Strong, Chase Excellence Brothers."
- Godspeed
Picked up a SRX mount and full size FH when my Turbo K got out of jail about two months ago, loving it so far, a bit shy of 1k down the pipe on them. Yhm cans would be an unbeatable value if YHM dropped the phantoms and shipped cans with the SRX system.
And yes, the long FH fits with the Turbo K
Finally, a video that applies to me.
I wasn't aware that the QD mount wiggle was considered to be bad.
You only get that wiggle if you install it improperly.
It doesn't wiggle if you put it on correctly. Backing the can off is not installing it, you rotate the collar to grab the next tooth. There should be no movement.
@@Pantone268Plus Per YHM, you don’t even need to rotate the collar and it’ll still be locked in place.
7:54 - "If you have any questions, please let me know in the comments below:"
Q: Who does your hair (8:01)? It's absolutely fabulous. That's like 1980s VO-5 ad level shiny.
That's my all-time favorite hair product: sweat.
Sweat and scalp-grease 👏
Hop is related to Clint Eastwood
You reply about your fucking hair? Good grief.
I have been know to dremel the shit outta some gear… followed by sanding and finished up with rattle can artwork 😎👍🏼
Lmao they basically made a big ass AN/ JIC fitting and said wow this works pretty darn well as a supressor mount.
Did I see you shooing an AR in 7.62x39? Would love to see a video on that build!
So basically a Plan B/cherry bomb mount. Even though it didn't work well, I was digging the ratcheting system. Quick detach system is cool
QD is a lie. When a can is hot, you’re not QDing it. It’s most useful for quick attachment when you arrive at the range. Ditch the QD systems and get a taper mount, it makes life much nicer.
@@Glandash they got those suppressor oven-mitt wrap things...
Griffin Armament has the best looking mounting systems, in my opinion.
@@Glandash It makes sense, I have a taper mount on my "main" rifle. But I recently picked up YHM for another build. I dig the ratcheting mechanism.
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All my weapons run dedicated suppressors so I prefer direct mounts because they are never removed.
That's what I was planning on doing lol. I need one can for one rifle, figured I'd just direct thread it and skip the headache😂
Wasted money
I enjoy YHM in general. Are they the best? No. Are they using the newest tech? No. But they have always had cheap suppressors that plain work. If NFA BS wasn’t a thing, I feel like having a few YHM cans for all the “extra” guns that maybe you don’t shoot as much or don’t care if your buddies mag dump out of. Not everyone needs to spend 1700 on an RC3. Glad to see they are listening (unlike say dead air) and I hope they start picking up on some of the low back pressure and 3d printed cans.
THANK YOU! I want a short FH in 1/2x28
I've been running Griffin taper mount for years. Same thing, but a much greater selection
Their dual lok is even better since it adds an active lock in addition to the taper, which is in front of the threads as opposed to behind. Their muzzle device options are pretty comprehensive as well
@@acemace3618they kinda stole it from dead air but since dead air quality is in the shitter, Griffin seems pretty meta now
@@ragedashboard6374 I'm crushing on their barrels too.
Hop, you gotta find a buddy with a lathe.
I love being able to adapt muzzle devices to any bore and thread pitch I want.
I've been able to bore out a few muzzle devices but I'd be annoyed if my buddy asked me to bore out and internally thread something that was nitrided or hardened.
As a guy who only has buddies with suppressors, I am constantly baffled (joke intended) that there is still no simple, industry-wide standard that has become the norm. Similar to say, MLOK for most handguards, etc. Crazy that no one has teamed up to simply make a solid, reliable, simple, intuitive system that is shared by more than 2-3 companies.
The industry doesn't have much of an incentive to develop a standard, considering most companies would rather just lock you into their ecosystem. Historically, most industry-wide standards, including MLOK, have resulted from military adoption. Unfortunately, the military hasn't used suppressors in large enough quantities to attempt standardizing on a mount for them, but that may be changing. However, if it does change, it will almost certainly be to whatever system the XM7 suppressors use, which would mean that the SRX will have a huge uphill battle to fight.
I think the HUB thread is the closest we’re going to get with that. Consumers have different wants/needs or are already invested to a particular ecosystem. Being able to slap a direct thread mount on and leave it up to the end user kinda makes sense to me.
Personally I wouldn’t buy a can that isn’t ready for/can’t be swapped to the q/rearden mounts. The last thing I want to do is get stuck paying for another mounting system vs a cheaper DT setup since I’m just going to swap it anyways.
@@billangell6478it also kinda sucks that the surefire ones aren't hub compatible. I'd love a surefire mount but I dunno if a warcomp would fit inside a yhm can.
@@argonzificationd.1531another issue is that so long as there is such a large barrier to entry to owning a suppressor, there’s even less of an incentive to standardize
@@bfish9700 Ecco machine makes hub compatible surefire SOCOM mounts out of wardens and trainers. I have one on an old AAC can that gets a lot of use.
Very much looking forward to the Rearden vid. Had no idea about the SRX until this dropped.
I agree that YHM should offer other in-house devices as an option, at a minimum. The direct adapter should be the base option, like you said "for liability purposes". Knocking just $50 off would open the door to more people.
IIRC they used to offer direct thread only packages, maybe only in the R9...? OG Turbo?
Can you please do a video on that 7.62x39 AR?
Suppressor game is a masochists paradise. I would have loved this system years ago with my YHMs on SBRs but now I’ve committed to huxwrx and their fucking shit 😩
I recently saw a can that could attach to an A2 birdcage. I'm not sure how good it is, but I do love my A2 birdcage. Any thoughts on that system?
Gemtech?
The socket the suppressor needs to properly align on the a2 robs internal suppressor volume. The a2 is mounted with crush washers and isn't made to be a mount so concentricity will likely be an issue.
I wish Rearden had all the muzzle device lengths/types/threads/etc as Griffin taper.
I also wish Rearden's website wasn't terrible.
Ah, the venerable MT4 Morse taper, now available for your suppressor. Used by machinists the world over for the last 100 years.
Hop can you ever do a video explaining why Direct thread is better?
Im looking at getting into suppressors in the near future and dont know anything about them but i [swear I] remember you saying that was the case but dont remember you going into detail about why
Then again i could be wrong and you never said that
Direct thread is great for bolt actions. I don't know if things would change for semi's. I think it just depends on how good your barrel is threaded because some of them are terrible and don't stay tight. I use direct thread on the Ruger American 300blk with my Nomad-L and it's very solid. I sometimes have to use the adapter tool to loosen it off. But I'd imagine with semi-auto's, more constant movement would eventually loosen it overtime.
I haven't bothered with Rearden or this mount yet but they seem pretty much identical to how EZ-Lok works for handguns. Once heat cycled, it'll be a bitch to remove. I had issues with that before and I'd always put a few rounds down range and then try and loosen and re-tighten the can, seems to help quite a bit. I wouldn't want this mounting style on a 5.56 gun because the cans get incredibly hot and take awhile to cooldown.
@@EvilWifflesdirect thread works on whatever you want it to.
Direct thread 'takes longer' to detach and reattach. Direct thread needs no mounts, don't need to be timed, and the thread fits have a clear and objective standard beyond the bounds of the suppressor industry. Crap threads on a semi auto under a mount are the same as crap threads on a bolt gun holding the can directly. They're crap regardless.
If you order you can from Capitol Armory you save some money ($60 with my Turbo) by letting them keep the mount and or muzzle device. That why you not spending more money for the system you want on a budget friendly can.
Id like to see that rearden atlas review. Very much considering switching out of keymo for it
I was looking at the Yhm turbo t3 and going with the rearden atlas mounts to shorten it up a bit for my 11.5, but this has me reconsidering and thinking about going with this sRx system 🤔
What about the Otter Creek polonium K?
@@Barnes-ml9wg I haven’t heard a whole lot about them, but what I have heard was good. I’d like a k can to keep the whole set up as compact as possible, but I just know that short cans on short guns can still have a lot of muzzle flash/signiture
The dimension extension lines on the left side bug me so much, they need to be moved up to the top of the collar so there is separation. I'm probably the only person watching this that even cares lol
I care Brandon, I care
You need to hurry with the Rearden mfg review. I’m about to switch all my yhm qd over.
I've been fawning over the stuff Griffin Armament has been doing lately, especially in regards to suppressor mounts.
I've been working on spur gears for so long, everything looks like a spur gear now.
Beyond flush with the muzzle device threads? _Hella_ flush?
I don't mind the phantom system BUT only the Kurz devices and mount. The standard mount is absurdly large and clunky.
Videos like this are a reminder of how bad it sucks to be in California.
Griffin armament’s dual lok hub adapter is a great mounting system. It’s got a taper before the threads and then a locking ring that always seems to work and doesn’t have any ratcheting system to wear out, and it’s lighter than KeyMo. It’s one of the most solid mounts if you want a mount that’s strong enough for battle.
SO....... my 1st & only suppressor got out of jail Tuesday of this week. I have three YHM muzzle devices all mounted up and a Kurz and their standard QD HUB mounts. Then this video comes out.
Way too many better suppressor/mount options available to go thru all this bullshit for the sake of a YHM can's "value".
How about a review on the magazine reliability of that curved mag, I'm guessing 7.62x39 AR setup???
...how are their comments fr8m 9 days ago whrn this was uploaded 1min ago??
NGMI
YHM, if you’re reading this, please stop shipping cans with ANY mount and discount the can somewhat, you will sell even more cans than you already are. Thanks.
YHM is garbage in the spread and poi shift. Compared to my Griffin armament Dual Lock and PSR suppressors, YHM spread and poi shift is probably twice as much. That new mounting system looks very close to the old griffin armament style of the mounting system. Its bound to be an improvement over their previous garbage.
Damn when I look at most of these products though I just don't see the justification on markup. I mean it's not breaking the bank to purchase but I see a $15 piece of metal being sold for $80+ How much is a lb of 17-4ph Stainless steel? Heat treating and Black oxide coating? for a single unit? Is it really $80? I feel like just making a few of these myself to see actual process and cost.
Worth noting that the short brake now is available in 1/2x28. I bought 2 of them and am running my turbo k on them.
Those weird thread patterns are most likely for big bore calibera like 450 BM, 458 SOCOM etc.
Would the SRX 1/2 x28 short brake would work on the YHM R2?
Mine just came out of ATF jail.
Can't watch your video because RUclips changed ToS and wants me to remove my adblocker and limiting me to 3 videos a day. Nope. Please consider posting to your rumble. Wishing you all of the best in success given the situation.
Rugged has a short belly button looking mount also. Its so ugly that i didnt buy it. But, i now wonder if its made to increase air volume in the can vs mounts with prongs?
I guess the little addition of freed up air space can add up to a decibel or two?
I love my rearden system. I'm curious to see what you think of it.
Short srx mounts for 1/2x28 are out....but all devices are 20$ more.....
Have a turbo k and a r9
Purchased a nomad 30 because double the price equals double the sound reduction! Jk.. my r9 at half the volume sounds as good as my nomad on my sbr 300blk
I thought this was a retrofit/adapter for the Phantom cans...I really don't like the muzzle devices in how huge (and heavy) they are.
I used to have a KeyMo on my Nomad-30. Now I have a Plan B and a Cherry Bomb. In the future my 5.56 can will be whatever Q’s cherry bomb compatible 5.56 can is, because I realize now that ratcheting systems and “QD” systems are just selling you extra weight. If I wasn’t a poor, I’d just direct thread, but I still don’t want to buy a dedicated can for each rifle.
Check out the options Griffin Armament has.
How’s the POI shift if any? Is it better than the Phantom QD? Think you could maybe do a video on the flash hiders shooting at night to see how they perform? Thanks Hop!
I’m trying to figure out which QD system to go with my AB suppressor Warthog 5.56. There’s a bunch of options out there for sure
Switch them both over to griffen’s plan b much better and still very cost effective.
It's called Plan A.
Should have been left hand threaded. It is better by a long shot and simple. I may consider upgrading for at least the one gun that will still be using my T2 but I'm moving the rest over to a better suppressor and better mount. I disagree with the presumption that suppressors simply have to be loud because of supersonic cartridges. Also, consider picking up some accuwashers instead of using those trash peel washers or the stackable ones.
I bought my YHM turbo K from capitol armory and they offer you a discount to remove the mount and muzzle device .. I chose that option and use the rearden atlas
Hopefully you like the Rearden option. I'm not a fan of shims either but I love the simplicity and Rearden's been solid as a company in my experience.
It's kind of funny how there was an arms race for the best QD mount for years, and it turns out the best mounts are just a simple thread and taper. Lightweight, never gets stuck, repeatable index, it doesn't seem like there are any downsides to plan b type mounts
Is that hop with a 7.62 AR? And shooting bulpups on his Instagram? Who is this guy and what has he done with the real Hop?
Hop beautiful backdrop you have there bud. What part of the Country?
My qd mount is carbon locked to my suppressor so i feel like im stuck with the phantom mounts on my rifles 😢
Quick pointer for the phantom qd mounts: if you screw your can all the way down on the collar (until it can’t possibly go any further), the collar will pop down a hair as the tooth is contacting a tooth on the ratchet. Rotate the collar counterclockwise and it’ll pop into place, completely securing the can with zero wobble or rotation. I figured this out by accident and it works perfectly.
I talked about that when discussing these previously, and I think FT covered it as well. That's how they're supposed to work but the tolerances aren't good enough so it only works on some combos of mount and muzzle device.
I’m gonna get the ymh k RB for my first can. You gotta start somewhere lol
Can't you just rotate the lock ring on the phantom mount? I have 3 mounts, 2 fall right into a "click" when fully tight. The other is between clicks when fully tight and I just rotate the rear ring thing slightly to get it to lock in. None of them have the movement you showed though. They are big and heavy, but they work for me. The srx does seem nice though. Too bad my og turbo can't swap mounts.
I showed a bunch of combinations of adapters and muzzle devices in a previous video. Maybe half of them lock up tight, a quarter can be rotated by hand to the last notch, and the last quarter fall just out of place and will wobble.
I will never own a firearm, but thanks for the information.
Rearden/Atlas soon! Please. Dont want to fall into another Deadair hype train...
We need to start a gofundme to buy Hop a proper chopsaw
Thanks to the NFA i dont think ill ever switch away from keymo
Hop oh you’ll find out if ya pay me…😉 lol. Never say sultry again 😅
it really sucks they don't make 1/28 short flash hiders
I’m in the minority that likes the Phantom QD system. I think for what you get it’s a great system. I think many people just don’t like the look of the MD.
With the SRX my 0.0002 cents is they should have done LH thread like the Xeno or OSS. Big miss there. I also think 90% of people who have concerns about the mount affecting accuracy can’t shoot their rifle well enough to notice. Is it perfect? Absolutely not. Is it much better than a lot out there? Yes. I’d take Phantom QD over everything except Surefire probably. Go ahead, roast me.
The Phantom mounts are ok. The 'muh size and weight' guys will probably be by shortly tho.
@@hateferlife tough to beat for price and usability. If the racheting mechanism was on the suppressor instead of the MD people would go crazy. It could use a little updating but it is solid.
I swapped the mount with a asr silencer co on my yankee hill R2
I would buy a turbo t3 if it came standard with the srx system.
I switched to the SRX system for my Resonator R2, I like it much more now. I sold my old adapter and muzzle devices for more than the new system was to replace it, so I even made money. I can't complain, especially because of hiw annoying that ratcheting was.
How’d you sell it planning on selling mine too??
They lost me at “compatibility matrix”…. I think YHM just needs to pick a damn lane and stick with it. Most consumers are tired enough given the effort to find compatibles plates for red dots let alone muzzle device/suppressor mounting from a SINGLE company.
Side note: is that airline pennymat for the galley?? Lol
Any thoughts on looking into the Cam and EZ lok systems for suppressor QD on pistols?
He said that he hates suppressing handguns. So I'd imagine he wouldn't.
The long muzzle device works with the kurz adapter
I thought only the brake, not the flash hider
I got the Rearden R2S and it’s an A1 style so no timing as well my barrel has a “thread relief” on them so no washers or shims needed.
I think the R2S is new and comes in a few designs
Just noticed that YHM is based in Easthampton, MA, about 30 minutes from me. We can't even own suppressors in this state.
Not with that attitude. I hope you meant "We're told we're not allowed to own suppressors in this state."
So no video of you verbally dunking on Ahmad?
How is the k can? Would you get another one.
Do you have any experience or knowledge of Griffin's taper mounts compared to these?
Griffin's Plan A taper system is inferior. The angled taper is behind the threads, near the base of the muzzle device. This theoretically makes it more repeatable (if you keep the muzzle device clean constantly), but very prone to carbon locking.
Just had my t2 clear ATF jail and have been looking for a video on this exact thing forever. Thank you and i will be getting the SRX adaptors and devices as soon as funds allow it.
save your money and go rearden