Bumped by a Ford GT40, Would love to hear your opinion
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- In this video, you see me running my MGB-GT on a Rival day at the Nivelles - Boulder's Grand Prix. Besides big muscle cars, and yes "I got bumped" by the Ford GT40. Off course I have my opinion on what happend, but would like to hear your opinion on who made the mistake. I apologise for the poor video clip quality, I needed to get it from the spectators as my go pro was not running at the time.
Definately reckless driving by the Ford and it was obvious to anyone that the gap was too narrow and closing
Also my opinion...
disagree. courtesy in mind, all drivers need to be aware of drivers nearby. drifting or merging to the right as another is trying to pass is what was obvious.
I may be wrong and I look forward to seeing other arguments, but I always see these events as more of a display/showcase of cars rather than an actual serious competition. With that said, why the Ford felt he should squeeze into that gap is beyond me - and perhaps indicative of just his poor courtesy regardless of who was at fault.
Right! These types of races are more of an exhibition than anything. Like Goodwood festival.
Indeed, this was not a competition, but a revival with clear instruction " drive fast and safe, as tribute to the old race track". By the way that race-track is no longer there, its an ordinary street with sidewalks and all kind of high and low obstacle's. In short "Dangerous"
indeed
The ford was at fault .. bad driver no need for the bump at all..
TXS
In my opinion at “track events” like this, which are not true competitions, the faster car has the responsibility for safety when over taking slower cars. The GT40 seemed a little wreckless given the conditions.
You are 100% correct.
I would think so too, as it was clearly briefed in the morning to all drivers "this is no competition, drive fast but safe", " Its a demonstration/revival event".
Yes, I’ve done similiar events in the US and it was discussed at length during the drivers meeting. Where I run the lead car must wave the passing car around. I think that is to help avoid the situation you just experienced. Glad you are ok.
That’s a tough one, but if I were you I would have checked my mirror and would have seen a faster car coming up and just would have stayed straight and let the GT40 pass on the right.
well yes , however I was on the correct racing line at high enough speed. No blue flags, and nearing the next chicane.. so if he was faster, he should pass safely . He did see my race line (I hope) , the same as all other cars..
He took his changes ...knowing that GT has the power to pass fast enough... although he under estimated my MGB GT speed IMO
@@D3Sshooter yes I see your point, things can happen very quickly. I remember doing a track day in a FF1600 and turning in the second part of a double apex and found a Formula Mazda coming through the inside, I avoided touching him but it was close.
Agree. Should have stayed straight and out of the way. That is why we have mirrors
We'd probably need to know more about context of the event and the nature of the series.
But, were you aware of the GT40, and had you checked your mirrors?
It was much faster out of the corner, and you closed the gap on it.
It looks like contact could have been avoided with a bit more awareness.
What was the damage to the GT40?
Depends on the type of event, if it’s non-serious door to door racing then the fault is a bit on both sides in my opinion. Yes, the GT40 was insolent in trying to push that gap that was closing, it’s not the last 15 minutes at Le Mans but also (and no offense meant by this) if you had accounted for the straight line speed difference this could have been avoided. Maybe in all-out professional racing you were in the right for closing the gap/defending (even if you said that was not your intention) but this doesn’t seem to be the case. On the upside the damage looks mostly cosmetic and not severe, both drivers and cars are fine so I’d say live and learn. Nice ride!
Edit: I would even say keep the scratch if it comes to that, idk there’s something cool about a buiser racecar that sees use 🤔
Thanks for the comments, and yes at the end its only a scratch... of course I Iike to learn from this. Don't worry about the offense, I like it when people voice their opinion , no matter what . Thank you. By the way , he crashed during that run, hitting a curb stone of the sidewalk at a lefthander.
@@D3Sshooter thank you for your response and that’s unfortunate to hear (about the GT40), sounds like the owner really needed a time out or some instruction on how they’re expected to behave. Keep up the great content though, I like the positivity and interesting content of your channel, not a lot of that going around nowadays sadly!
Yep, you continued on the racing line and it is his responsibility to pass safely without incident.
Thank you
I'm just viewing this Steve and wow what a lot of responses. I love you Steve and the guy in the GT40 is an axxhole, but it is your fault for even being there in the first place. This Nivelles - Boulders event reminds me of the Pittsburgh Vintage GP on this side of the pond; a shxt show waiting to happen. I see no run groups, I see trees, lamp posts, curbs. I mean why would you run your beautiful BGT anywhere other than at a proper racetrack in properly run races or track days??? Still love you Steve😁
That's racing its all fun at end of day no need to lose sleep over something minor
That is true, except that this was outside competition and revival with very clear rules stated in the morning brief... Anyhow,my car is oK, his one crashed with a broken wheelhub later
@@D3Sshooter some drivers don't follow the rules and it causes problems, maybe he will receive a warning but aslong as everyone goes home safe cars can be fixed I've watched your channel ever since I was in my teens and I've learned so much great to receive a comment from you keep up the great work 👌
Does anything happen to either of you when there is a crash? Who pays if anything? Thanks
No, its all for yourself... there is no such thing as damage claim between drivers.. There is towards the driver from the track owner
@@D3Sshooter Thanks for answering.
I wonder if race direction would have issued him a penalty, or deemed the infraction too minor? Cool video thanks!
After watching the GT's "bumping" of your car and hearing of its later damage on the curb, I wonder if the driver has a lack of awareness of the perimeter dimensions of his car and sometimes makes clearance judgements based on the car he is following. If his car were of the same dimension as yours, the pass may have succeeded without contact. Regardless the actual reasoning (or lack of reasoning) of that driver, he has demonstrated a lack of skill, maturity and situational depth perception. He may also be in the habit of envisioning the racing line as a single line, based on the center line of his own car rather than mentally mapping a "channel lane" around the course. He may well often bump his own shoulders while walking through doorways.
Thanks for the comments
The Ford GT was in the wrong. You had already begun your move while he was behind and you had the racing line.
Indeed
If you moving to the right was the "racing line", the GT40 was at fault. I assume you did not attempt to block him, and even if he is was faster, forcing his way through is not correct.
I agree, you are following the trajectory, The GT40 has plenty of power to pass you anywhere else after and he is fully responsible of the incident.
TXS, indeed ... I was not blocking at all. In fact I was not even defending . The problem with the track (street) is that its short with many turns and few straight stretches . Those GT's are great cars with lots of power and have no issue to pass a little silly MGB-GT ( OK -180Hp, but that is nothing) on the straights, in the corners its MG time... and I guess het got frustrated as the spectators saw the little MG leading the GT for a few laps and catching up in the corners.. With very few straights, it must have been frustrating ... so he took his changes on this straight stretch ( almost the only one on the street track)
GT40 bullying it’s way forward. Always the car from behind that has to ensure a safe pass.
It came from far enough back to read what you where doing.
Did the driver come up to you afterwards to say anything ?
Thanks for the comments, yes we spoke... I went to him.. " sorry " that is all what was stated
One cannot overtake if there is a narrowing gap he misjudge the situation did not want to brake a pushed his way through. he would never have driven in the Le Mans 24HRS that way
Thank you , and yes i also believe that he was thinking I can pass through the gap and misjudged the speed I had, to the point where the gap was narrow when he entered and decided to push the throttle to pass. I sensed the GT and when we touched , I reacted immediate with a left manoeuvre . He could not move to the right as he would hit the curb stones of the sidewalk.
Not being biased here but yes the GT40 made the mistake, given the nature of the event. If it was a full competition, I’d say fair game but, this was not a full competition. Interested to know if you had any chat with the driver afterwards?
That GT40 too aggressive in this venue. The venue shows honorable restraint for the sake of the cars, not the drivers. In that he failed.
Also, it means that You need to upgrade to 512BB LM. 😊
I know there are other type of racing with less expensive cars where this is allowed, but here it is not right to try to force in between another car like this, it is incredibly dangerous at high speed and may cause damage to other cars as it did here.
TXS, indeed... the only reason that it did not got worse was because of me re-acting quickly and pulling to the left... anyhow that GT 40 crashed later with a broken wheel hub ( hitting the curb stones )
@@D3Sshooter Yes, some guys are all in for the addrenalin kick i guess, and seem to be losing track of the current situation in the heat, i know a few of those guys too... In Sweden we hawe what is called "folkrace" which is perfect for those guys since it is relatively low speed on soft dirt road and almost everything is allowed including crashing and smashing the opponent on the track, the cars are usualy from the scrapyard so it doesn't matter if they look like garbage after a few turns, it looks like tons of fun, but nothing i would do with a car i spent much time on finish or actualy cared about... Neither on a high speed track race where it could be dangerous for real to other participants.
The overtaking car is responsible for a clean pass
This is why I watch racing and don't do it! Is the next corner a left hander? If you're on the line then isn't it his fault for trying to pass when you were clearly following it? At least a scrape on the side of an MGB is going cost less to fix than a scrape on the side of a GT-40 so you're ahead there :)
Thanks for the comments, its a chicane with right pathway in...that is why the line is moving to the right
All cars appear to be moving L>R after that turn to setup for the next turn, so it appears to be that you are following the racing line. Plus, as the overtaking vehicle, it's his responsibility to do so in a safe manner. you're good.
I would think so too, and yes that was the racing-line.
Strange move by the Ford, no need to get so close in that spot. Should have waited and overtake after the hay balls.
Thanks for the comments, I would think so
Well in the Ford drivers case it may be a severe case of 'more money than talent'.
Did you talk to him after the race?
Thanks for the comments, yes I did... and he could only say " sorry ", I think in his case its more of case of stupidity and money.... Anyhow, he crash the car very shortly afterwards hitting a curb.
I was always told the overtaking vehicle should keep clear.
Thanks
I would have to have been in one of the cars and attended the driver briefing to give you a definitive answer, but I believe both cars might have done a better job avoiding one another...The overtaking car should have taken all prudent measures to avoid contacting the slower car... However, in a "gentleman's" race, the driver of the slower car should be aware of any faster, overtaking cars and allow them sufficient space for them to pass, safely without impeding their racing line... To sum it up, both drivers should have apologized to one another for their driving and offer to buy each other a drink! In an actual competition, I believe the slower car should have been shown the blue flag...
Thanks for the comments, I did see him afterwards, as we always do... I asked "what was that ? " , he answered " sorry mate" . I answered " it's OK, that is what can happen". and that was it. By the way, his car was damaged just after the turn where he hit the sidewalk and broke the front wheel
Hi, ford was at fault, should have waited was too aggressive for that type of race and track. Could have slowed down then passed later as he was the faster car. Really enjoy all your video,s always look forward too your next one. Great mix of interest and content.
Albert
Thanks for the comments
Hi Steve, the Ford driver was too aggressive, especially since these are all historic vehicles, that was unnecessary.🙋
Thanks for the comments
On a track the slowest car takes the line, the fastest car has to overtake in a safe way!
Indeed, TXS
with a gt40 you should know he can pass you any time. No patience, arrogant or just stupid
It was a demo race that was supposed to be run consistently.
Drivers with expensive cars often have their fuses blow.
The organizer should no longer allow them to run.
Indeed, it was no real race... it was a revival event... Ok we all drove fast... as to demo speed... He should have been black flagged... But they did not , and they did see it. Anyhow he crashed the car shortly after. My moment of fun...
I'm in no way qualified to pass remark here, but the GT40 did seem rather aggressive to me.
Thanks for the comments
Sorry mate... But if it was a real track, they would show you blue Flag and let the fast car pass you quickly. May be, if you would be less finnes in your movement (sutil chance of racing line) could the gt 40 read you better, faster and know what side to pass you. Beside, replay doesnt show in witch dir is next corner to know if you was on the racing line, or moving out of it, to let the faster car get it. So
For me is Just a racing incident that came very cheap for bouth of the cars, cause if gt40 touch the grass or bump in the side walk.... other Will be the end of the story. The lesson here is keep a closer look on the mirrors, since in this kinds of events most of the "drivers" are not pro racers and dont play by the rules. Any way you get Lucky....
Thank you for the comments and yes we all learn from events like this. PS the GT crashed in that run.. hit the curb stones of sidewalk and broke the front wheelhub
The lead car dictates the line of the trailing car. He saw you closing the gap for an upcoming turn and it was his responsibility to decide how to proceed safely. He chose incorrectly.
Thanks for the comments
Not you at fault,I would say the Ford should pay for your damage and apologise to you.
TXS, well this is not how it goes, there is no such thing in these events where one needs to pay the other. There is a paper / waiver you sign . `stating that you can claim money or damage from each other' , 'except damage to the track infra, that you will need to pay to the track owner'. In this case it was a closed public road.
Quite possibly picked the wrong side and stuck with it hoping to squeeze by. Not sure a driver would risk a bump for so little gain. Poor judgement maybe rather than deliberate "bullying". Saying that, in my 9 years racing in the 1980s I did give one driver a bit of a shove because he was deliberately blocking a pass by provoking big slides in corners, and I needed the points.
Thanks John, indeed that is how it goes in competition races.. However here it was a revival / demonstration with a clear drivers brief " this is not a competition, its a revival/ demo, drive as fast as possible in a safe way"
@@D3Sshooter Aah. Sadly, there are always heroes.
I assume the pit manoeuvre is illegal in motor racing :)
yes, but this was not the pit, its a street race/demo
@@D3Sshooter Steve I don't think you understand what I mean. A pit manoeuvre is an American police tactic, it works in this way you push your front fender into his rear fender, spin his car and he he exits stage left. It is expensive to do but oddly satisfying
@@rayvreman2002 Thanks Ray, yes I did not get it... .... thanks for bringing that to me.... as I always say " never to old to learn" 😃... I have seen some on those on TV... and that would not be allowed... I think in NASCAR it is kind of allowed ? Not?
To me, since he swerved into you, it was his fault it happened. However, if anything was at fault it would be the track people for stationing a hay bale in the wrong place and ignoring the hazard it created. In reality, it was an accident waiting to happen. Moreover, it looked like the other driver did hesitate for a half second, then gunned it, but another additional half second, he would have still been behind you.
Thank you , and yes indeed he hesitated briefly
I think the core problem is having very unequal cars racing at the same time. But you should've known that and should've maintained situational awareness.
Btw I'm no expert. It's just my opinion. 😊
Yes, you have a point... It is also a remark I made during the morning pilot brief . A street track, narrow, and cars that are so different is dangerous and asking for problems..
I think given that you had moved the same way in all the previous shots, that you,did nothing wrong. Maybe a mirror check given you were in traffic but he should definitely have lifted.. The gap was closing and he had nowhere to go. Unfortunately in 30yrs of racing, I have often seen the drivers of very fast cars in events like this, thinking they can 'win' what is just usually a demonstration. Lots of money but not so much awareness. Don't let it bother you, they are at fault.
Thanks man, I can only agree and be happy that nothing serious happend. Except that the GT crashed in that run, hitting a curb stone of the sidewalk... broken wheel hub
The GT40 driver was at fault, going for a gap that wasn't there is stupid.
We have a saying here, there are racing drivers, and drivers who drive race cars !
Thanks, nice saying...
Especially in racing as in every day driving, it is the responsibility of the over taking driver to make a safe pass. It appears this event had no flagging, at least at that corner, so I think if an overtake flag was displayed, you would not have had an issue. Not your fault in my opinion.
Thanks, there were flags on the track however they did not wave a blue flag ... I think because , I kept up well with the others. Especially in the corners. On straights , those super cars could catch up .. but at the next corner , it was my turn again. In each case, he crashed the car shortly after
i want to revise statement i made..i did not realize this was out of competition..then the Ford guy should have given you leeway...esp after instructions from race boss to be safe..and with the cost of these cars and single man teams these scrapes can be heartbreakers..and wallet strainers...
Thanks...I always appreciate your comments...
No logic from gt40. Your movement was smooth, slow, so it was predictible.
Thanks for the comments.. That is also what I think
The Ford was definitely in the wrong ! He made a very ill judged move squeezing by there, no need to overtake anyway as this is not a race, that is why a race is for vehicles of the same class, this was a demonstration run only, no doubt he has more money than sense! Chris B.
Thanks Chris..
Rubbing is racing.... now hit the pace car!!! lol.
Id say it was the Fords fault but as a Ford driver (we are generally nuts) id of probably tried to squeeze through too... sorry harry lol🤪
The GT40 driver was entirely at fault
TXS
The driver of the Ford GT was at fault.
Thanks for the comments
Typical bloody Ford driver. GT40 driver at fault 100%.
Thanks 54mgtf22
Your fault.
OK, and why is that ? If I may ask, so I can learn from it. TXS
I'm just viewing this Steve and wow what a lot of responses. I love you Steve and the guy in the GT40 is an axxhole, but it is your fault for even being there in the first place. This Nivelles - Boulders event reminds me of the Pittsburgh Vintage GP on this side of the pond;
a shxt show waiting to happen. I see no run groups, I see trees, lamp posts, curbs. I mean
why would you run your beautiful BGT anywhere other than at a proper race track in properly run races or track days??? Still love you Steve😁
@@gregconnolly7205 , well this was a one off thingy... Normally , I only get on race tracks for all the good reasons... txs
Always up to the faster car to pass safely
Thanks for the comments
seems to be a racing event..trading paint is part of racing imho..
True, but here it was out of competition- yes we raced but as we were briefed in the morning " drive fast, but safe"
Nobodies fault that’s just racing . You’re either competing or you’re recreating . You choose
Well, it wasn't a race. It's an exhibition on a streetcourse that once was a track, and no reason for overtaking unless you are sure there is room.
Yes and no... If it was a real competition race yes. But here we are talking about a revival day ( demo of speed and cars ). Briefed in the drivers brief, ' its not a competition today, its demonstration/revival. Drive fast , but safe '
@@D3Sshooter well that’s the answer he didn’t drive safe so there can be no dispute . That could have been much worse
You have to move over and let him pass if you’re the slower car, but he also needs to give you the right-of-way since you’re ahead of him… Were you ever planning on letting him pass since his car was gaining on you? The GT40 is way more powerful and he was probably waiting for you to do that, at some point, but got too impatient.
Thanks for the comments, of course I let the faster cars pass, but not if it is at a place where i would run into an obstacle ( here a bale of hay for a chicane)
@@D3Sshooter Yeah, that makes sense. It seems like a case of impatience on his part… Be safe out there, man!
Rubbing is racing
Yes, it is but not like this in a revival event where speed and driving is shown to the public... But even if it was racing, `i would expect a black flag for dangerous passing'. TXS for the comments
everyone else was singular going up but the only person who couldnt wait was the ford lol...deffo his fault bar none.
IMHO, both sides share some blame with the GT sharing more. My reasoning: This is a ''demo'' day, a day to show your pets in public. Everyone should be aware of the other cars around them as much as reasonably possible. Talk of ''on the racing line'' is not really an excuse, this is not a race. However the GT40, with it's massive hp advantage has a extra duty of caution and trying to squeeze that pass in a narrow opening was bad judgment, whereas, Steve should have been more aware of much faster car overtaking and given it more room. Fault: GT40, 60% Steve, 40%.
If EITHER DRIVER, had decieded to be a little bit more cautious this wouldn't have happened.
As you were the lead vehicle, the car overtaking is responsible for finding a safe passage around your slower vehicle. The GT40 driver made the mistake by pushing his way through. Even in vintage racing some individuals let high testosterone levels get in the way of safe racing and protecting the cars. In the States, the vintage clubs have penalties for over-aggressive driving that endangers others up to being banned from future events. Cheers from Texas.
It's always easy after the event to put blame on people, could say keep looking in your mirrors if you know there's a faster car behind, or gt40 had been watching your lines for some laps and thought that was the place to pass, racing incident to me, you could say 50/50 but things happen so fast, you probably thought it was too narrow a spot for him to come past, it's easy to say one or other is to blame, it's just an opinion that everybody is entitled to be it wrong or right, glad it was only minor damage, hope you had fun Steve.
Hi Steve, assuming this was a track day not a race, the rule of passing for such events in the UK is that the faster cars can only pass on the straights, never in corners or braking zones and ONLY with consent of the driver in front. The driver briefing also states which side the faster car can pass during the event and the car being passed has to indicate they have consented to be passed. In this case the GT40 should have taken more care as its obviously a much faster car.
As others have said some drivers do not follow the rules.
I experienced this myself on track, when a faster car overtook me not only mid corner but on the wrong side from the instructions at the briefing. Trouble is on track the red mist sets in with some drivers.
My uncle used to race pre 55s here in Ireland. He referred to it as 'gentleman racing'. Most of the cars were high value so it was in no ones interest to bump each other. There are other racing series where it is more acceptable to rub or bump.
Indeed, and here it was a revival /gentleman race where demonstrated speed and driving to the public.
It’s the fastest car’s responsibility to overtake safely.
clearly not many commentators have put time on the track, but certainly willing to give their lame advice.
Steve, show your inboard footages so we can see were the track goes.
Thanks, the sad thing is...my Gopro ran out of battery so I missed the footage, else I would have shown it here... sorry
Out of curiosity, are there any clear rules?
Oh yes, there is pilot brief in the morning where the rules are set out, there are the flags , the Marshalls and stewards, rules on passing - defending /blocking- race lines etc..
@@D3Sshooterand what were the rules on passing?
It's not your mistake. He wanted to take you over at the wrong side. On a track like the Nurburgring taking over on the right side is forbidden..
Thanks for the comments, and yes I agree
A lot of desk jockeys who have probably never raced a car in their life are turning to the rule book.
This was a classic car event with cars of very different performances. In these cases slower cars AND flag marshals need to be extra vigilant and keep out of the way. You should have got a blue flag, marshal was asleep. You were probably being lapped ... ?
Let's face it you will hardly lose any time in the much slower car staying off the racing line and letting the quick guys through.
Sticking 100% to the rules when the other car is like 10 seconds a lap faster than you is just being a bit of a jerk. It is a no contest situation, concentrate on racing cars in the same class as yours and let the others go.
And yes my first car race was in a MGB GT and I did alright but a lot of my focus was on my rear view mirrors and letting the E Types and the like have their race too ...
Thanks for the comments
From what I saw and I'm no racing expert,you were moving to the right gradually.
It may have been to late for the other driver to correct his direction (there were other cars coming up on his rear) by the time he noticed your actions so he was already committed to passing you.
Bumping not cool but this may have just been an accident and he may not have been aware that he bumped you. Unfortunately it does happen.
Just my 10 cents worth 🤷♂️
Thanks, and yes not all i 100% clear in these situations... I sensed the touch and corrected immediate to the left.. as you can see
That's just racing. You go to the track, you take your chances.
True
The GT40 is still behind you when you start to move to the right. He decided not to back off but to keep on accelerating.
Its the GT40 drivers fault.
Thank you
Side to side contact on a straightish road. I think its your fault because you should leave a cars width of space when someone is alongside. Definitely could and should have been avoided by tbe gt40 driver.
Thanks for the comments
you traditioanly move to the right so faster cards can pass, only if you stay left and show clearly you are staying left , and well left, do you pass a slower car on the right. you were moving over to the right and was clear so GT40 realy should have seen this and not pretend he was at Good wood. looks like a great event, a fun event, so no need to bump really is there...
Thanks for the comments, and yes those are the rules we drive under. But you always have crazy folks thinking they are in a car rodeo
Ford driver fault.
It was the Ford's fault
The one that passed you....
Thank you
Getting hit from behind is just not cricket. All over a plastic trophy.
TXS
The ford was clearly at fault. His pass was unsafe and unnecessary.
Thank you, its also what I was thinking. Of course I am biased
I would be sending him the bill for repairs, he was in the wrong
TXS, but on the track its not like that.. There is no such thing as damage claims between drivers
f1 says slower cars must get off the racing
line...sorry
Yes that is true and they are blue flagged signaled... not in this case as I was faster in the turns and of course slower on the straights compared with the ford GT besides the fact that this was a revival not a competition
There are jerks everywhere. And not you in this instance.
Thanks for the comments
You're right Steve, he was definitely in the wrong.
TXS
My guess is that the Ford driver is really regretting what he did. He’s obviously a weekend warrior and exhibited poor judgment.
Thank you.. I did speak with him afterwards and he stated "Sorry bud"... that is how it goes... no hard feelings at the end
@@D3Sshooter Under the circumstances, that’s a pretty good outcome.
The other guy was wrong. If it was in F1, he would've been penalized.
Thanks, also my opinion. Anyhow , shortly after he crashed the car on the curb stones of a sidewalk. I saw him at the paddock later after he was towed. I asked him " what F...K man were you doing? "...he only stated sorry...
@@D3Sshooter what comes around goes around. Racing is a sport, and drivers should respect each other.
Rubbing is racing.
it is...
You hade the race line and were in front, he was in charge of, and was doing the maneuver. Definitely no argument who caused the damage.
Thank you
The rear car has to choose the line depending what the front one does.
Yep
You blocked him.
OK, thanks for you perception and opinion
@@D3Sshooter No problem. Happy it didn't turn out bad either way.
The driver behind who is attempting to pass is responsible for doing it safely. 100% the fault of the GT40 for making contact.
Thanks for the comments
It looks like the ford was forcing his way past you I bet he thought he could pass you with the power of his car
Indeed, and underestimated my MGB speed... at that point he knew he could either brake or accelerate and push through...he was at the edge of the road near the curb stones of the sidewalk and close to chicane ahead
He is in a GT40 and can pass you easily so he should patiently wait for the right time, like a straight away and go around the slower MG. To force the pass shows inexperience and disregard for his own equipment and others as well.
You will likely be racing in the future and see this car in another incident so keep your eye out.
Be safe and Godspeed.
Thanks for the comments, the funny thing is , that his car was towed of the track with broken front wheel hub, he did hit a curb stone of the sidewalks and crashed the car .
@@D3Sshooter That's no surprise!
If you had moved to the left to let him by everyone behind him would have followed and you would have been left behind the hay bales. You had the racing line and the GT should have lifted.
Txs for the comments, I think so to. I was in a defend position on the racing line and not in a blocking position.
Sorry to say I think you should have been aware that he was coming up to pass and kept to the left. Still love your channel though!
Oke, and why ? as I was on the racing line at enough speed and steady moving to the right for the next turn. As all drivers did... well know race line to all.. See, the point here is that those GT's have lots of power and can pass on t he straights, but the turns and chicanes they are slower . So he took his change to pass on the right , just before the next turn.. TXS
Perhaps I don't understand the conventions of racing etiquette, but I have driven 2 million miles as a truck driver. On the roads it's best not to close the door when somebody is overtaking, even if technically you have the right of way. If they are a bit loony - you let them get away and have the accident elsewhere. I imagine the Ford driver thought he could easily pass and still leave room for a slower car to prepare for the next corner, not very gentlemany perhaps but he was probably intent on catching a rival. If you get pushed off the racing line then you lose a few seconds on that lap by having to go hard on the brakes to match your speed to the line forced upon you, surely that's part of the game. In the end, though, if I went racing I would accept (and dish out) some risk and some aggression too, which I think applies to both parties in this situation.
@@JohnDavis-ed5sg Thanks John ,, wow that is a lot of miles... and yes that is so true.
@@D3Sshooter And by the way I love my Defender TD5, it stays while others come and go....
Have an end of the race destruction derby with him! Rubbings racing 🏁 😊
hahaha, I love my car to much for that, and he could not as he broke the front wheel hub ( shortly after in the same run, hitting the curb stones )
As cliche as it is to say rubbing is racing and he definitely got the short end of the stick monetarily. You release liability when you enter your vehicle into a race, exhibition or otherwise