WE BINGE-WATCHED ALL OF X-MEN '97 AND WE'RE DEVASTATED! *Part 2*
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In this video we are watching Mavel "X-Men '97" FOR THE FIRST TIME! This is part 2 of 3 so stay tuned for the next video in this series! A band of mutants use their uncanny gifts to protect a world that hates and fears them; they're challenged like never before, forced to face a dangerous and unexpected new future.
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Death toll of Genosha in the comics was 16million
fix the description homie! part 2
Nice reaction!
Kacee's learning that one of the reasons X-Men has been so popular is not so much the action, but that it's a freaking soap opera 😂
All comics books are
@@avatazYeah, they're people dealing with the same issues as us.
srsly i never shed a tear in a foxmen or mcu movie, but this show in just a few episodes squeezed a bunch outta me : D classic X-Men are on another level.
@@ComicPhreakAlso they are a found family
The drama 🤌
The old show was for kids. This new show is for the same kids now as adults. This show is brilliantly awesome. That is truth
In the comics Genosha Genocide went like this:
- Extermination Event Underway
- Target Genosha:
-Population 16,521,063 : Falling.
- Population 11,001,467
- 8,290, 025
- 763...
It's worth noting that part of Storm's backstory is she has severe claustrophobia from being trapped after the explosion that killed her parents.
Kurt/Nightcrawler straight spits so many bars in this show. Some of the best lines since "What is grief, if not love persevering?"
"I was too blue for her...."
That's REVEREND FATHER KURT WAGNER BABY! 😅
The most shocking and heartbreaking episode of tv since The Red Wedding in Game Of Thrones for me. When Magneto not only tried to comfort Leech but did so in his native language, knife to the heart. Then they twist the knife with the last line “I can’t feel you”!😭😭😭😭😭
And then in episode 7 when Nightcrawler told Rogue she didn’t cause Magneto or Gambit to die but caused them to live, that made me cry.
The writing for this show is just too damn good. It’s like how I felt like with Andor as a Star Wars fan, like it was almost too good to be true.
This is officially the best Marvel the show ever made!
Ep 5 makes me tear up every time. In the comics, 16 million mutants were killed in the Genosha massacre by the wild sentinel. To compare, that's the entirety of NYC twice over.
And as Bastion states in Ep 10, it happened in a second over 77 minutes.
didn't even know there were that many mutants. imagine having to come up with powersets for all of them!
@@vinsanity40k The vast majority of mutants don't even have significant powers, just traits that deviate from normal humans. The X-Men are generally recruited only from the mutants that do manifest significant and useful powers, but the school's population is relatively small because most mutants just don't have what it takes to be X-Men.
Old X-men had decent dialogue but 97 dialogue is definitely another level and far more complex. They’ve done a great job with this show so far.
In the OG series Genosha was a mutant slave labor colony disguised as a mutant friendly resort island. Gambit, Storm and Jubillee went for a vacation and were forced into labor until they made their escape. As you saw, it became the first independent mutant sovereign nation!
Also re: Sinister. He's not a mutant. He's sort of a genetic engineer and scientific genius who prolonged his own life and enhanced himself by stealing genetic traits from mutants for over a century
In other words he’s a mutate
Sinister also has some enhancements from Apocalypse because old blue lips likes having him around to do his bidding
@@sergiomedina7960 Phoenix had some opinions on that
@@DizzyCarrots what did she say?
When the show runners pitched this show to Kevin Feige, the attack on Genosha was what absolutely convinced Feige to green light it. This was supposed to echo the shock, horror and tragedy of 9/11, and for those of you who weren’t alive when it happened, they succeeded.
Yeah, I didn’t even think they would adapt the Genosha massacre but boy, I was shocked and saddened to see it happened
And pulse nightclub tragedy was a huge influence to him as well, I’d say this episode mirrored Pulse more than anything else, they were partying, they were at a place where it was mostly their own kind, his quote:
“I partied at Pulse. It was my club. I have so many great memories of its awesome white lounge. It was, like Genosha, a safe space for me and everyone like me to dance and laugh and be free. I thought about this a lot when crafting this season and this episode, and how the gay community in Orlando rose to heal from that event”
9/11 but also the Pulse Nightclub shooting
There was a town that was bombed in Tulsa. There was also a town that flooded. Nobody really wants to talk about those
@@donnyouttheway4091 what town was bombed ?
And I’m gonna calling our Galaxy the Milky Way ghetto from now on 🤣🤣🤣
I hope Deathbird pays a visit to Earth... for reasons...
@@acereporter73 oh god. Then she’d really think we’re super ghetto 🤣🤣.
Episode 5 is on another level, the writing, the drama, action, feels, everthing is amazing
You guys didn’t seem to noticed that The Watcher was there in episode 5. He usually shows up whenever something bad or intense happens. Meaning he knew what was up but of course, he couldn’t actually do anything about it, given his vows of non interference.
They have hints since the beginning but Ep. 5 proves this is no longer for kids it’s for the kids who watched the OG show but are now adults. I love this show so much.
Awesome cameo of Captain America. Also RIP Gambit. You were a True X-Man.
Sugarr.. I.. I can't feel you..
That voice acting is so heart wrenching..
This show is how to do nostalgia properly. It gives us everything we remember and love but it has matured
Just like Cobra Kai and Maverick.
Rouge is adopted through mystique as her mother and night crawler and graydon creed as her brother’s
Kacee would be a great rogue cosplay!
She's definitely got the body for it.
no the goblin queen
Either one lol
you might not notice it, but during the FIREWORKS SCENE, there was someone important watching.
😭 i stand by this statement I've said previously. If gambit wasn't there everybody would've died. Gambit trained his body and his powers. Which is why he was able to succeed (Him and logan be in the danger room together on the highest setting possible which is passcode protected) rogue/magneto only trained powers. Why they could only get so far the brute strength route. Rogue would've/should've died if gambit didnt interfere.
All honesty magneto could've done so many other options, turned the rail car into a saw, compressed it spun it and fired it off like a rail gun, these are all what ifs bc we are outside looking in, heat of the moment heads not always clear or thinking and every second literally counts when ppl are dying immediately.
The writers obviously wanted to use the three of them and both Magneto and Gambit have their great moments and then die/seem to die. Let Magneto do anything he would have normally done in those circumstances, and there would have been no chance for Gambit to show his powers, no need to risk his life. Like with the asteroid, Magneto wakes up, and the catastrophe is averted. It's logical, but they'd have been forced to tinvent something else for Gambit to die. It'd have been so much better, imo, and have shown Bastion as a supervillain who had a few aces up his sleeve. But it is impresive the way it is, especially when you watch for the first time. And I'm not sure no one but Gambit could save them. They are all mutants, perhaps, someone else could save them. It just happened the way it did.
Ep 5 is where I got hooked. The writing is targeted towards those who watched the original animated series when they were young but are now grown up.
*Rogue throws caps shield*
Cap: “So what that didn’t hurt…….🥲………
Remy's name will live forever.
I don’t remember if they mentioned it on the show but in the comics, the death toll from the Wild Sentinel attack on Genosha was 16,521,618; literally 94% of all mutants.
"Is there a mutant living in the swamp?"
Yep. Shrek.
Oh no that's just Bruce Banner on a camping trip 😂
Yeah but in the DC-UNIVERSE..... Some swamp-thing.... 😂
Beau demayo (shows head writer) said episode 5 was to reflect the world post 9/11 and to remind people the world is not safe
Also it was partly based on the Pulse club shooting
Episode 5 is easily one of the best episodes of television. So well written, so well delivered, but also absolutely soul crushing.
Nightcrawler’s teleportation smoke smells like sulfur. Him ‘porting all around Rogue and Gambit was the equivalent of him just lighting them up with farts.
The original series did have some deeper moments at times, but it wasn't quite at this level because they could only do so much. Network censors would/could only allow so much, particularly since it was aimed at children. Now it's on a streamer, so there's more freedom, and they know that most of the audience for this will be people who grew up with that one and are therefore grown now. So while it's not going full-on Deadpool level, they can push it a bit more with the themes and occasional blood and death.
The last three episodes will blow you two out of your seats.
X-men 97 is basically adult soap opera masquerading as Saturday morning cartoon. And it’s near perfect
they essentially took the 97 x men we grew up with and pulled from the comic source material for more adult themed dynamics
Gosh to think after Remember It the show goes bonkers in a what just happened way
You guys are the 3rd reactor page that recognized the Mr. Rogers quote.
@DosCavazos , in the 90s, there was another smaller comic publisher, Caliente comics. Their version of the Xmen was a comic called Harbinger. As in, the next stage of human evolution were the 'mutants, or special powered beings.
I think it was #25, when one of the heroes, a sound character held his dead friend who had picked a fight with a much stronger 'omega' level powered being, said the same thing as Rogue.
Something along the line of:
'"I'm sorry I never bothered to listen to your heart. I could have been able to find you if I had bothered to learn your heartbeat."
Just a super emotionally charged story. Seems like Marvel took a little inspiration from that story here.
This show is so much better than it should be allowed to be. I am a gross X-Men fan. I grew up on this and the trading cards and so forth. I fully expected them to rekindle the feel and nostalgia of the original series but I did not expect them to put quality cinematics into this. I am very happy this show came along. I had being feeling like not much was really fresh for awhile now and this totally hit the spot.
I binge-watched the original show to refresh my memory before watching this and although it did touched deep topics it was still a kids show. The genius of x-men 97 is that they understood their audience are adults now, and deliver a show for those who watched this as kids
Hahaha. This bird has you trapped in this house. True. I absolutely love this show and y’alls’ reaction. Can’t wait for part 3
the Genosha episode gave me Red Wedding vibes ... literally chills.
The thing is, most mutants don’t have cool powers. Most of them look different or have health issues. An example being The Morlocks, a group of mutants who have to live underground because they don’t blend in as easily. That’s the reason a lot of people don’t like the mutants
Nightcrawler has always been one of my favorite characters because how good of a person he is. One of my favorite interactions was between him and Logan.
When Logan asked Kurt what did he think was going to happen to him after he finally died. Kurt responded essentially "when you wake up in the next life come find me. I'll be waiting radiant and with open arms."
You guys should absolutely watch Jennifer's body! It's the kind of horror that isn't really scary. It's fun, comedic to a certain degree and just a blast to watch! Would love to see you guys react to it! ❤
Earlier, Magneto said there were thousands of mutants on Genosha, so I think it's safe to say there were thousands of casualties in this tragedy.
That dude that was about to blast Ronan and his army, is Cyclop’s baby brother. Their pops and mom were kidnapped by aliens. Their dad is actually on that ship or probably somewhere on a mission for the ladies. He showed up in the original show.
Havok right doesn't he have another brother too
@@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni It's Gabriel Summers
Episode 5 gave me so many chills throughout
At the end of this episode when rogue says sugar, I can't feel you give me a good call back to WandaVision episode eight when she's sees vision
Cant wait for you guys to react to the last 3 episodes! 😂
11:56 My man Gambit! RIP! 😔👏
"Genosha looks fun!"
The little green guy is a character named leech, he inadvertently drains mutants he is near , it’s why magneto wasn’t able to hold back the sentinel blast . Magneto knew this which makes the sacrifice that much more noble 16:12
If you recall, magneto is a holocaust survivor hence why he's so tortured
I've been a longtime fan of the X-men comics for most of my life.
The moment I saw Emma Frost, Genosha, and a large gathering of people being happy my first thought was "There's not way they would do it..."
Then they did it.
And there it is !! Was waiting for that. Episodes five will go down as my top 3 episodes of the show so far ❤.
The relationship between rogue and magneto is so stupid 😂
He's literally a character who first showed up in the comics at the end of the OG run. I read on a fan wika for the show like 15 years ago. They claimed to have read scripts for the cancelled season: all of the plot points came to pass on X Men 97. One of the reasons they cancelled the OG was it had caught up with the actual comics. And they were going to have start making stuff up.
I agree with you all however you gotta think this series was rebooted and they're not writing for kids anymore. Those kids are grown ups now. This is why it is so mature and the writing shows it. Episode 5 will be remembered as one of the best marvel comic writing ever. The pain, the passion, the love, the drama and the compassion, all these feelings in one episode. Majestic!
"CUZ DA CARDZ ALWAYS BE IN MA FAVA!!"
"Was the writing this good in the original series?" Sadly, no. It was a simpler show and pretty much strictly for children, with a lot more network restrictions. But at the time, it was revolutionary and shaped a lot of our childhoods.
As far as I know, Rogue and Magneto even had a relationship in the comics.
Additionally, Magneto is biologically much younger. In The Defenders, Magneto was transformed into a baby. Alien spy Eric the Red later reversed this transformation. Magneto returned not to old age, but to his physical prime. So, although chronologically he is about 60, biologically he is about 20-30 years old.
This completely explains the fact that Magneto has the body of a young athlete.
If anything, I’m not rooting for anyone, I’m just explaining what happens in the series.
Emma frost is an omega level telepath on par with Xavier and in the comics she and Scott had a telepathic affair. And after Jeans death they got together i hope we see this relationship form in the series.
You can see a faint outline of The Watcher in the night sky right before everything goes down in Genosha, basically saying that what was about to happen was important and can't be changed.
The 90s series was aimed very much at kids. This series isn't backing away from difficult stories, concepts, and commentaries
The reason why Captain America is so important for the X men storyline is because he indirectly causes the Logan to become the Wolverine its because of him he gets the adamantium claws they also fought together during WW2.
And the shows keeps getting better!
Such a great show
It might've been answered already but the Phoenix Force is one of the most powerful cosmic entities in the Multiverse. It grants a FEW different powers. It tremendously amplify the powers you already have. It always grants some level of reality warping powers (depending on how attuned you're to the Phoenix), so mater and energy manipulation, increased strength and durability, pyrokinesis (obviously), space and time manipulation/transportation, healing, resurrection... yada yada.
It's basically a Nigh Omnipotent power.
Didnt expect this 90s revival to have a PG rated Red Wedding
The writing is so good and not just the dialogue. We saw a survivor of the holocaust fight a genocidal robot using a train as a weapon.
You know how Kacee has said Anthony is always saying random lines, from movies and stuff; I can totally see him using the " like telling Gambit the dang truth! " for example : " so yeah, it's OUR channel but theres certain things he can't do, and things that I can't do" Anthony : " like telling Gambit the dang truth!! " 😝🙃 LOL
I like X-Men show!❤😊
Mystique is Nightcrawler's mother & Rogue's foster mother
1:29 That is Glob Hermann, he is a precious boy and must be protected.
His mutation means most of his soft tissues are compromised of a translucent bio-paraffin. Aside from a resistance to blasts and physical impacts, the only other thing he has from this is a vulnerability to fire (with a nickname of the Inhuman Torch).He has been a narrative punching bag for most of his existence.
The old show was deep but limited by being a 90s show, 97 is great evolution of the show. Suggest watching key episodes of the old show
"After I ran away from my daddy"..... Anthony "I found another one" lmao 😂 Stoppp
29:40, mystique adopted rogue after she ran away, before she joined the xmen, and mystique is nightcrawlers momma.
Bastian is an obscure character, most people don't remember him.
Magneto is like 60 years old messing with Rogue
Perhaps older but comicbooks has always operated under what is called a Floating Timeline or Sliding Timescale
67-70 years"
Considering he remembers the Holocaust, that would put him in around the late 80s or early 90s age range at this point (1933 - 1945). Depending on how old he's meant to be when it happened. It's an unfortunate side effect of comic book characters having actual historic events in their backstories now that these characters have been around so long.
Not every character has the convenient plot point of being frozen in ice like Captain America to explain away a time lapse of several decades. Though even MCU Cap's story had to be changed some due to the passage of time. In the comic books, Nick Fury fought in WW2 with his "Howling Commandos". We even saw some of those commandos in the first Captain America movie. Imagine if Samuel L. had been an old war buddy reunited with Cap after several decades. If not for the the fact that WW2 ended almost 80 years ago now, one of the guys on that train mission in The First Avenger could have been a young Nick Fury.
@@marcw6875 I understand what you’re saying but he’s OLD she’s younger than Jean & she is a founding X-men. In real life it’s legal so I don’t care like that I’m just thinking it’s not tasteful on Magneto’s character.
@@zacharydarku3540 As far as I know, they even had a relationship in the comics.
Also, Magneto is biologically much younger. In the issue of The Defenders, Magneto was turned into a baby. Later, the alien spy Eric Krasny canceled this transformation. Magneto returned not to his old age, but to his physical prime. So, despite the fact that chronologically he is about 60, biologically he is about 20-30 years old.
This fully explains the fact that Magneto has the body of a young athlete.
At 26:46, yall talk about how people hate mutants but not the Avengers or Hulk. It should be noted that in the comics, people do hate the Hulk. Since he's always going around smashing things. And The Avengers have ties to the government. Like they have their own liason any publicist (I think), so they're looked at more favorably. Plus most people in the marvel universe (atleast I think) are aware of the super soldier serum, so most know Caps a superhuman and not a mutant.
Hi! Anthony and Kacee
X-Men Grand Design is a great book for newcomers to classic X-Men that want to catch up : )
Hi! Anthony and Kacee❤😊
The Phoenix Force works similar to the Speed Force for The Flash. The Speed Force was there long before Barry Allen just as the Phoenix Force was there long before Jean Grey. She has the ability to tap into it to enhance her abilities when truly needed. But it should only be used sparingly.
To understand what’s going on an episode seven more go back to the original series and watch the Phoenix Saga and the dark Phoenix Saga and the very last episode of the old series. That’ll give you perspective quite a bit actually.
Watching the entire season EPISODE 5 will go down as the best episode of XMEN 97 SEASON 1
The shenanigans are about to begin!!!! 👏
Well at least it looks like our boy is coming back Apocalypse was specifically holding one of his cards after how the movies didn't really do anything with him it'd be a waste to do the same in the show
Imagine they hada made this as live Action, Its Superb.
The Genosha massacre killed 16 million mutants in the comics.
The writing from this show is very different than it was in the 90's. The 90's show still had a lot of the interpersonal drama but it was basically your standard Saturday morning cartoons. The writing wasn't as refined, mature, or quite as dramatic as it is in this show. They never had anything like episode 5 in the old show.
2:45 think of Jean grey as a computer or smartphone. The phoenix is basically a universal supercomputer while the universe itself is the internet if that makes sense
Phenix is an entity all on its own, but it inhabits other people. Jean isn't the first and certainly isn't the last person that the Phenix will live inside of.
Can you please react to a k-drama called My Dearest (2023) This is the best drama of 2023 because it has won so many awards and needs to be praised more! The actors are really great!
this is wild and getting dark almost like wolverine and the x-men... i feel a little bad for KC not knowing the lore behind some of it.
When we were kids its mostly just like you remember. It have some mature themes like discrimination. But still a kid show.
X-men 97 is next level, made for artist that were childs 30 years ago. Just like us
This show is now, for me, the second-best project in the MCU behind Daredevil. It's so respectful to the characters; just like with the DD show, you can tell the people behind it love the characters, and it shows with their portrayal and writing. And the source material is so accurate; with all the storylines they are doing and going to do for S2, the MCU should take note, but of course they won't. The people behind this wanted to work on the upcoming X-Men film, but of course they didn't hired these showrunners, directors, and writers; why would they? It's not like they have the perfect crew, right?
The animation is great, especially in the action scenes; the dialogue is insane; every single episode has so many amazing dialogues; the voice acting is great, etc. I thought the more "filler" and "worse" episode was episode 4, but other than that, the show is almost perfect, an easy 9/10 for me.
Charles is many things but he has never ever been a pacifist.
I think the bad guy in question, Bastion, was not around when the original cartoon was on. In the comics he is a fusion of Nimrod and Mastermold converted into a human (because of reasons), but his origin is slightly different in this cartoon. Think of sentinel software running on human hardware.
Scott and Jean/Madelyn couldn't have known in the old show that Cable was Nathan because they hadn't had a child yet, only after she saw her baby could they have known.
Episode 5 deserve and Emmy to be honest 🤔🤔