TROY (2004) Movie Reaction Part 1/2! | First Time Watch | Brad Pitt | Eric Bana | Orlando Bloom
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- Achara and Steph watch Wolfgang Petersen's epic Troy, an adaptation of Homer's Illiad for the very first time. Troy stars Brad Pitt (Bullet Train, Mr & Mrs Smith, Fight Club) as Achilles, Eric Bana (Hulk, Munich) as Hector, Orlando Bloom (The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, The Pirates of the Caribbean) as Paris, Brian Cox (Succession) as Agamemnon and Diane Kruger (Inglorious Basterds, National Treasure) as Helen.
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Paris is the REAL villain of the movie.
tbh if it wasn't Paris, soon or later they would have attacked troy anyways. Paris was actually a perfect "reason" to finally attack. also if wasn't the greeks. some other nations would have attacked anyways.
to me the real villains are definitely the king brothers of the greeks
@@babushka9998 You said a lot of "what if's" that don't really matter. Paris (and perhaps the gods) is the one responsible for the war in both the movie and the Iliad, there is no point in trying to say otherwise.
@@henriquecesardesouzasilva8766 why you trying to convince me I don’t get it. and don’t come at me with gods lol and of course the what if matters. for example you saying paris fault, but why searching for the one defendant. There is so much more for the attack on Troy and it’s not JUST Paris. there is definitely more back story to it! and yeah maybe the movie made seems like paris fault. for example in the history books it says helenas fault, cause of her beauty, a war began.
so there is no point to trying to say otherwise
@@babushka9998 you understand that this is story is a myth and there's no historial evidence on this war. There a dozens of versions of this story written over several centuries and Historians aren't even sure Troy actually existed the way it's described by Homer. It's still an ongoing debate whether it's pure fiction or has at least a historical core
in Homers version of the trojan wars it is indeed Helenas kidnapping that starts the war which leads to a ten year siege on troy and finally to the legendary trojan horse.
Achara rolling her eyes every time Paris speaks 😂💀
Right lol, I love both there reactions to this movie. 😂😂
lol I watched one of those "actors react to famous roles" videos the other day with Orlando Bloom, and I think he didn't like Paris very much either
19:20 "War is young men dying and old men talking." Facts…
Still true
Ned Stark's always speaking FACTS 🔥
Brendan Gleeson and Brian Cox as brothers is chef kiss
*Brendan Gleeson
Also, they were both in Braveheart.
@tomaskennedy That's right I totally forgot about that one
@@tomaskennedyboth are Scots, no?
@@tomaskennedy ...oh shit, thats right....William Wallace's best friend and uncle
"I'll tell you a secret, something they don't teach you in your temple.. the god's envy us. They envy us because we're mortal. Because any moment might be our last. Every things more beautiful because we're doomed"
- Achilles.
he was talking about his own life because they sure as hell don't envy me
Achilles isn't an atheist but a realistic believer
I would rather envy them, who are Immortal
They envied Achilles because he looked like Brad Pitt.
My favorite line in this movie.
Movie: “Will our actions echo across the centuries?”
Steph: “Definitely, so please CHILL OUT”
😂😂 that killed me
- Initially, we wanted to make a fantasy film with Greek gods, but in the end we got a mythological epic
- Brad and Eric had a Gentleman's agreement that for each serious blow they paid each other money, who paid how much to whom remains unknown + Brad was not physically ready for this role, but thanks to a personal trainer and a year of training, we saw the result of
- This that rare case where Sean Bean doesn't die
- Troy at that time it was hard to compete with Gladiator and the Last Samurai in terms of box office receipts
Sean Bean survived, but to make sure the universe stays in balance, they had to sacrifice 3/4 of the rest of this ensemble cast.
Why do i love this comment section so much? Probably because of the Sean Bean gag hahaha
That big guy that threw horses with their riders like it's nothing is Ajax another legendary greek hero.
It's sad though that he basically became a jobber to Hector
I would not refer to Ajax the Greater as a jobber. He was the Greeks best fighter only behind Achilles.
He fought Hector twice. The first time they fought all day until Zues intervened and put an end to the fighting and Hector amd Ajax exchanged gifts out of mutual respect.
The 2nd time they fought was when the Torjan Army tries to burnthe Greek ships.
Ajax, weilding his mighty spear, basically single handedly holds off the Trojan army. He and Hector fight again and aided by Zues, Hector disarms Ajax but does not wound him. Seeing the Zues favors Hector in the fight, Ajax withdraws. Thanks to Ajax, the Trojans succeed in buring only one Greek ship
When Patroclus is killed by Hector, it is Ajax that rescues Patroclus body from Hector who is trying to claim it.
Hector does not kill Ajax in the Illiad. Ajax kills himself. After Achilles is slain, a competition is held who should get his armor. It comes down to Ajax amd Odysseus. Ajax argues since he rescued Achilles body and do to his Great skill and strength he should get the armor. Odysseus argues he should get it and Odysseus being the more eloquent speaking is awarded the armor.
Ajax is so distraught and "conquered by his own grief", that he kills himself.
@@nataliestclair6176 I know the mythology. I was referring to the depiction of Ajax in this movie, how he was shown to be an amazing fighter in the first battle at the beach and how he died at the hands of Hector to prop him up.
@@GuillermoCambro-cq3gl And then he became a power cleanser. And now his name lives forever in our kitchen cabinets. From the beach to the bleach.
@@GuillermoCambro-cq3gl yes I agree
Achilles was such a badass that the opening lines of the epic Illiad is about him
Sing oh goddess of the wrath of Peleus' son, Achilles, that destructive wrath which brought countless woes upon the Achaeans, and that sent forth to Hades many valiant souls of heroes, and made them themselves spoil for dogs and every bird.
Troy to Gladiator is like what Goodfellas is to The Godfather
That’s such a good comparison! I now love both Troy and Gladiator ❤️
That is such a perfect comparison. It's just the great, "flashy" story to go with the more grounded one.
This is a perfect analogy
huh?
Absolutely! (Also I don’t think I’m smart enough to fully grasp this comparison)
"Peak Orlando Bloomness" 😂
Mannelouse in the original mythology wasn't evil or abusive or unfaithful. He genuinely loved Helen and she actually loved him. Helen only left him for Paris because the goddess of love Aphrodite made her fall in love with. Paris. Aphrodite, Athena and Hera were in a contest to see who was the most beautiful. They asked Paris to decide and offered him different things. Aphrodite offered to make Helen love him and he chose her. When Helen ran away with Paris she didn't even leave a letter or anything to explain. So Mannelouse launched the war to rescue her believing she was kidnapped and he did get her back.
Well damn. The gods are ALWAYS meddling in the affairs of humans. I guess it works better for the love story here to have Menelaus be awful so the audience will root for Paris.
@@AcharaI know Kratos was a fictional character they added to the Greek mythology but honestly the more I learn about everything they did from my friend (he’s big on Greek mythology) the more I’m like “maybe Kratos had the right idea. Sure millions of people died and the Greek world basically went to ruin but I mean c’mon the Gods sucked anyway”
Menelaus* but otherwise yup, spot on!
So... Fuck troy then
@@Achara That, and I think it went better with this more grounded take on the myth. This version is notably absent gods and goddesses so they had to give everyone realistic motivations.
Achilles: Mother, will the world remember me?
Mom: Lols. They name a bodypart after you.
Nobody knows or cares who you are, so I guess he did alright?
Not a body part but an expression for weak spot.
@@SuperErmacX Achilles Tendon
@@SuperErmacX Solar plexus? The jugular vein? Eyes?
@@loveblanket6512 you ok buddy? It's called a joke
Lot of top tier actor...but really the one in that movie that is the best in every single scene is Peter O'toole as King Priam. His speech are the stuff of legend and his one to one conversation with Achilles is top tier acting ! What they say too..."Achilles: If i do this, it doesn't change anything. Your still my enemy in the morning", Priam: Your still my enemy tonight...but even enemy can show respect..."Something people tend to forget !
Please note that Hector is carving a Trojan Horse out of wood on the ship, foreshadowing
Ooooh! I didn’t catch that.
The part when Achilles says " I have no argument with you brothers; but if you don't release her you'll never see home again. DECIDE!!! " is underrated bad assery 👊🏻
Yeah, and then she gave Agamemnon a bath. 😅 Soooooooooooooooooooooooo . . .
This movie had one of the best teaser trailers for it's era!
Big thing to remember when it comes to the mindset of the Ancient Greek heroes, is that everything they say and do is done with the idea of personal glory.
What can I do to further increase my renown? my reputation? what would doing this for someone else affect my own glory?
The Ancient Greek heroes in the old plays were quite egotistical and self absorbed. Even those like Odysseus are consumed by this yearning for legacy and status.
Comparatively the heroes of the Ancient Romans are the complete reverse of this mindset: instead of personal glory it is glory for Rome.
What can I do to better Rome? What can I do go make Rome known across the land? What can I do to increase the prosperity of Romes people?
That's a very nice touch to bring up! Thanks!
United States: "What can I do, no matter how cheap, tawdry, vile, embarrassing, simple or disgusting, to become rich and famous throughout the land?!"
Sean Bean character Odysseus has his own amazing story called The Odyssey. It’s basically about his epic adventures to get back home, they was supposed to make a movie but canceled it. It one of my favorite Greek mythology story ever
Odysseus is a legend in his own right. So many amazing characters in Greek mythology!
Have you seen the movie "O Brother where art thou" staring George Clooney? it's a comedy movie loosely based on Odyssey. It's pretty funny especially once you start to make the connection between the two stories.
I would stil watch a movie with Sean Bean s Odysseus
@@leonardobraynen1524 He did do a kinda sorta similar series as Sharpe based on Bernard Cornwell's novels. No comparison to Odyssey's, well, odyssey, of course, but still worth a watch.
When Sean Bean plays a character that doesn't immediately die at the first half of the movie....
Achilles arrived at Troy with 50 ships, each carrying 50 Myrmidons.
Achilles commanded the 50 ships of the Argos Pelasgikon (i.e. the Thessalian kingdoms) contingent - Pelasgians, Phthians (including the Myrmidons), Hellenes, Achaeans.
This was filmed in Malta they had to import all the tons of sand because Malta has hardly any, old family holiday destination.
Parts were filmed in Baja in Mexico. I was there on vacation when it happened and saw the ads calling for extras.
In the actual mythology Achilles was the son of the king Palonius and the demigoddess Thetus daughter of posiedon. Thetus bathed Achilles in the mystical river of stix which leads to the underworld. Bathing in the water made Achilles invincible all over his body except for the heal as that's where his mother held him. Thetus predicted Achilles death in the war and told him to hide. So he disguised himself as a woman and hid in a kings court. It worked until Odysseus found him and revealed his secret. Achilles only refused to stop fighting because Agammendon had the woman he loved. The movie made Achilles a lot less heroic.
The heel story is a rather late addition, first known from the 1st Century AD. It isn't part of the Iliad.
And making Brad Pitt disguised as a woman will make it look more heroic? Sure lol.
Both those stories were not in the original Illiad. They were never in the Iliad. Those stories were written by the Roman poet Statius around 90 AD. According to what archeologists can deduce the Iliad was first told around 1250 bc and the oldest written account of it ever found was dated to around 800 bc. The stories about Achilles being dipped in the river Styx and hiding as a girl were written by Statius in his poem about Achilles titled Achilleid.
Yes and because of that mythology they named that heel part as 'Achilles Tendon'. 'Achilles Heel' means a vulnerable part of something / someone.
Can we have a reaction that doesn't have 2024 diatribes and ranting about how people behaved in the past? Especially a story that was written in the 8th century bc!? If i hear them complain about how this person looked or acted when it comes to men and women behaviors. Its like reactors want stories told in the past to fit their worldview now in order to make them feel better. Just emerse yourself in the story without it being a condemnation of everything thats told from a point of view that doesn't fit in your stances when it comes to corrected behaviors. A man shouldn't talk that way to a woman? Guess what ? They did! God forbid if they would've told the story the way it was written by Homer with the greek gods interface in the war that spanned 10 years .
Well is not a surprised they both got offended about it my god is just these nowadays people become crying offended about anything pathetic soft ASF generation Especially thes Me To toxic so call mouvement LOL bunch of snowflakes 😭❄️
Thank you!
Hear hear. Wen it's a movie portraying back then it must stick to it as much as they can
What's the point of reacting to something if you can't criticize it through the eyes of the modern age? Everything does not age well. Suck it up.
Man that duel..Helen fell in love with a coward..Paris ran to his big brother to protect him..How in the world could Helen think that Paris could protect her as a man should after seeing that.
they were both young and stupid.
Aphrodite (Goddess of Love) made Helen fall in love with Paris !
@ineedpowers5151 well none of that was adapted into this movie, so we really can't count it.
His Simp ass was a lover not a fighter 😂
What a luxury to have the legendary Peter O´toole in this movie, a great actor of old Hollywood, in one of the last films of his career.
“Helen your boy toy is dead” had me laughing 😂
He cut the head of Sun God statue which looks like an archer and in the end Achilles got hit by an arrow on his heel by prince. Maybe there is a connection.
🌞 god
@@GuillermoCambro-cq3gl Ohhh. Thanks. Now I understand. I am gonna correct it.
Yea. Apollo poisoned the arrow that killed Achilles in the classic story.
@@nayjay468 Oh, now I understood very much. 👍
@@nayjay468 well, looks like apollo got his revenge.
Vincent Regan (actor) was Captain/Commander of both Epic movies. This movie and 300.
This is one of my favourite movies. Extremely underrated.
Yes, underinflated.
This movie is underrated
"Oh Paris !"
"Paris no one asked you !"
🤣🤣🤣
Brad Pitt, Eric Bana, Orlando Bloom, Diane Kruger, Brendan Gleeson, Brian Cox and the rest of the cast and crew are awesome 😎
6:51 This freeze frame, shows the perfect image of an older brother hearing his younger brother talking brainless nonsense to him.
Hector must be thinking at this second: You who has never seen a fight, and has no idea of fighting, says "Then I die fighting", there will be no fight you brat, it will just be you dead on the ground.
The big dude with the maul is Ajax, King of Salamis, a renowned Greek hero of the Classical Era, said to be "stronger than all Greece." The dish soap brand Ajax named their product that because it's "stronger than all grease" :P
Can´t wait for part 2
I love Steph, "Paris, no one asked youu".
When Hector was angry Achilles refuses to fight. Maybe Hector should do the same when Achilles was furious.
"Starts an epic war."I could be wrong but i believe the sources say the war/siege lasted ten years. Epic is an understatement lol.
Hector said any man would die for his wife. But any man would kill for his brother.
Diane Kruger was well cast, unknown back then.
First of two Stark brothers to play Odysseus, they get to meet the Lord Commander
Helen was 'the face that launched a thousand ships'. If you lived through the '60s, Grace Slick was 'the voice that launched a thousand trips.' LSD was a thing.
Almost forgot that Vincent Regan (Garp in One Piece Live Action) played a role in Troy too!
The Trojan war lasted 10 years not a few days 😂
Loved your reaction vids 😊
You guys should watch The Odyssey with Armand Asante and Greta Sachee it's about the Greeks journey home from the Trojan war.
Excellent movie 😊
What are they teaching people these days in college? especially reactors I learned about this story in the 6th grade
Compared to other historical period movies like Alexander and Kingdom of Heaven, Troy is actually entertaining.
Luv this movie one of my favorites and still till this day will say Paris is the true villain lol.
Honestly, you’re not wrong! 😂
Haven't watched the movie before, and I was really shocked with Menelaos' death. In the original version, he lives, and after the war goes back to Sparta with Helen
29:21 I CLEARLY heard.."is this SIMP, what you left me for..?" 😂😂
Imagine being so truly Legendary , that a part of the body of every human in the world is named after you thousands of years later.
I could keep watching this again and again just to hear Steph and Achara's comments 😂😂😂😂😂😂
this movie really condenses the Illiad into a short period the Illiad covers about 10 years from the star of the Trojan war till its end then you have the Odyssey set right after it with Odysseus trip home which itself takes him 10 years to make the man really took the long way home.
We all agree Paris is annoying and ignorant as hell 😑🤣. Awesome reactions ladies
The amount of times I randomly say "he's going to take the beach of Troy with 50 men" is far too high
I love the way they act like they're watching the movie for the first time lol
Troy is one of the greatest movies ever
Him: " come with me "
Her. "easy for you to say 👀" 😅😅😅😅😜
It's such a brilliant movie this. I remember watching it in theatres in Bangalore with not much expectations and was blown away on how well the movie was acted.
In one of the most popular battles of troy. Achilles had a worthy opponent named memnon. He was a prince of Ethiopia and a strong and skilled fighter who managed to wound Achilles on the hand.
Helen was actually a Spartan princess..she had a twin sister who was married to.Agamemnon. (Clytenestra).
Hector was truly a great leader, yet his shortcomings would be his own family, his brother with his love for Helen and his fathers faith traditions
Awesome reaction ladies!!! You two should react to Conan The Barbarian as well ❤
The story about Achilles mother dipping him in the River Styx was not in the original Illiad. They were never in the Iliad. Those stories were written by the Roman poet Statius around 90 AD. According to what archeologists can deduce the Iliad was first told around 1250 bc and the oldest written account of it ever found was dated to around 800 bc. The stories about Achilles being dipped in the river Styx and hiding as a girl were written by Statius in his poem about Achilles titled Achilleid.
Achilles mother, Thetis, was a minor goddess. She was a sae nymph.
Absolutely love this movie. It’s so underrated. And Achara and Steph are my favorites. Top tier reactors. 💜💜👍🏽👍🏽
Troy is such a good movie! Great music too☺️
I will always side with Hector. He wasn’t best warrior, but he was the bravest, just and honest man.
“one swift hit” is an apt choice of words. one of achilles’ epithets in lots of mythology is “swift footed”
In the original story Menelaus never got killed he got his wife back and went home to Sparta with her,
In the original, Priam ordered Paris' death when he was a baby because of a dream his mother had. He was instead adopted by the person ordered to kill him.
@@GuillermoCambro-cq3gl Yes but that is well before the Illiad. This movie is based on the Illiad
@@cosimodemedici1530 true. But hector and Paris' close relationship in this movie is a major plot point
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Brendan Gleeson and Brian Cox as Greek brothers and warlords is straight VILLAINS 😂
Hector is my favorite character of all time .
This is one of my favorite movies of all time, and the musical score has a big role to play in it. Paris' character is as infuriating as it was the first time but loved Achilles and Hector.
Diane Kruger was PERFECTLY cast as Helen Of Troy! Not only is she literally one of the most naturally beautiful women that has ever walked the earth, she’s also a truly top tier actress. You absolutely feel for this woman who just wants to be with a man she truly loves and not be a prize for someone to try to win.
Daryl Dixon is one lucky bastard.
Why somebody didn't give Orlando a blonde wig and a bow I'll never know. He could have ended the war in like 24 minutes.
Please don't do these epic movies in 2 parts... It really kills the interest because the flow of (especially such a great movie) dies completely :(
This was peak cinema.
Truly
@@Acharaare you actually Achara 🤔
Achara is my Helen, I’m sorry jaby 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Are they dating? I thought Jaby and Achara are just good friends
@@Pk_1911 I don’t know if their dating I’m just semi serious 😂
A fun movie, though seems like Sean Bean was the only one who actually read any of the myths (he nailed Odysseus). The Achilles of myth was angered for losing the priestess because she was his slave girl and he wanted the spoils. No love story at all.
Yeah but Pitt played Achilles as a murderous terrifying rock star and I think that's pretty accurate also.
This movie is epic!
Achilles did answer for cutting off apollos head. An arrow threw his achilles. Never mess with the gods in greek mythology. They are VERY petty
Hey Cinepals, why did you delete your Conan the Barbarian video?
"Paris, no one asked you" 😂 So real
The horse was most likely a ship with a horse head, they were more sailors than horse riders. Ships were the horses of the seas.
Orlando Bloom's character was a REAL drama queen in this movie!🤣
Hector was the perfect son, brother, husband, father, warrior, defender and leader. What a tragic fate, Gods ways are truly mysterious!
His mother forgot to mention Led Zeppelin would write a song called "Achilles last stand". All the Zeppelin fans know it!! 😎🇺🇸
The only bad part of this movie is the omission of the gods direct involvement in the ensuing events.
Thank you for watching the theatrical cut!!
Music lines up sooooo much better 🎉
Of the twelve Olympian deities: Apollo and Aphrodite supported Troy, Athena and Poseidon supported the Greeks. Ares simply enjoys the war. Zeus plots the course of history. Hades welcomes the dead.
Love this movie with a burning passion, so many great acting scenes
18:58 That emerald bracelet is beautiful…❤
Steph has the best "AAAAHHHHHHHH~~~"s 😄
One of my favourite Hollywood movies.
In the end daryl dixon took Helen of Troy home 😂😂 wat a win 😂😂
She really said Peak Orlando Bloom 🔥 😂
I'm always bummed that when they do a Troy movie, they don't have Diomedes in there. He was an utter Ba.dass. A peer to Achilles in martial prowess. He wounded TWO gods during the war, and survives the entire ten years.
I remember watching this movie for the first time and wondering, " Does Sean Bean die?" Lol
Btw, 1000 ships, 50 per ship. 50k
Achilles's mother was the Goddess Thetis
Oh yes Priam was a romantic. In the Illiad he had 50 sons, several wives and many concubines lol. Don't know how he found time to rule his kingdom.
This is such a good film, truly great actors to tell a true epic (though a little different to the "book"), one of my favourite films. Was doing Mythology at school around the time it came out, was so happy when they announced it! Part 2 will have one of my favourite choreographed 1v1 fights in all of cinema, can't wait :)
P.S. Don't forget about Peter O'Toole as King Priam in your description, he was legendary too. Also Brendan Gleeson as Menelaus & of course Sean Bean as Odysseus, another very important character in Homer's stories.