I forgot to mention, the real-life view in the goggles has much better resolution than the recorded footage you see in the video. The Quest 3s has a resolution of 1832x1920, but when recording video, it only records at 1024x1024, or roughly 1/4 the amount of pixels. That's why the video looks pretty grainy, since it's fewer pixels and I have to zoom in to stretch it to widescreen. Happy new years everyone!!
On your video on how to build the 100$ fpv drone can you please tell us were to download the auto populating file for bats flight called VTX1000mw.Jason file
There are a few ways to adjust the size, framerate and bitrate of the recorded in-headset video to increase quality and also allow stereo recording, if you want. You can use SideQuest, Quest Games Optimizer or via adk commands.
I was thinking of a similar setup. The idea was to have one HD goggle to handle it all: - Multicopter Freestyle (Bando) FPV - 3D CAD Drawings - Virtual/Augmented Reality Only thing holding me back till now is. Not knowing how mutch latency it introduce with FPV Can you please do a review about that topic. I'm realy curious. Thank you in advance❣️
Dude, that is so cool! I've been thinking about buying Quest 2 back in the day for this exact reason, since they were cheaper than most digital FPV goggles, but now this mixed reality flying might be an actual game changer. I wonder if you could also have a second window for apps like Mission Planner to get a whole ground station setup in VR.
@ I have moonlight kit laying around waiting for my first build. Right now I’m running vtx with walksnail meteor75, picture is great so far, at moonlight I believe it will be even better! In any case we can have streaming at 1080p, 4K for recording only. The only downside is that with vtx you can get only normal framerate, I believe 60fps, with goggles x you will get 100. But I would say - 60 is enough if your just a regular flyer.
@@thatmanfromukraine Do you know what the limitation is there? I thought you could get the Avatar VRX to 100FPS with 720P recording. Does the Quest 3 not allow that?
Yes, you are very correct about the antennas....those are tuned for 2.4ghz- which they work mediocrelly but still much better than when attempting to use em for 5ghz
This is quite an interesting option - I already have a Quest 3, so being able to use it potentially as an FPV headset would certainly lower the cost of entry for a newcomer like myself.
Very cool to see this in action! Thank you for sharing! This just made my wishlist and I'm getting this set up soon to see how this would feel. I can finally wear my glasses since Quest 3 has some spacing for this. This might be good
I can't wait for augmented flights via fpv feed, imagine not having to set up race gates, just load a racing track on your goggles and fly away, or anything you could imagine really super mario style...
Thank you for shiwing people this Bro. I also do this with my walksnail VRX and Quest 3 passthrough then i make the screen sooooo Huge😊 and enjoy my self a !
Can you share what hardware you are using? I'm super interested in OpenIPC, but haven't dived into it yet, and this looks like it could be an amazing option!
This is really smart idea. What do you recon that the latency is like? This setup also helps people with glasses, since you dont have to put on and off them every time that you change batteries.
Nice Idea thank you for that. I dived into latency testing USB capture cards to use them with my HDZero VRX but my conclusion was sadly that the added latency is about 110 - 170 ms with the three different models I tested. With this added latency the drone is still flyable but it makes it harder for me. So if you find a low latency card please let me know.
Hey Sam! I’m using almost the same setup but with walksnail vtx, meta quest 3 and hagibis capture card. It works great! I have goggles x laying around but for some reason this setup feels much more comfortable for me, i don’t know why, maybe cause i don’t need to take off goggles while looking for my meteor75 somewhere behind my bed 😁
I tried this with a quest 2 and some similar cheapo 5.8g usb receiver last year and it does work although I used another app as the quest hdmi link app didn't exist yet. The latency wasn't really noticeable (especially given that I was very used to flying djis long range by the camera view before getting into actual fpv) however the big issue I found is that the virtual screen/window being locked in space instead of locked to the headset is way too distracting for me because of all the tiny head movements that become very noticeable and mainly because you can't move around irl (or aim any directional antennas you mount to your head) without resetting the view all the time with the quest controller, which is annoying and just another thing to carry around while in the field... Ended up buying some used analog goggles. I think this would be great if only there was a way to force the quest to lock an app to the headset instead of locking it in place, which from my research is sadly not possible.
That's interesting. The issue is "just" 350 USD. 🙃 And the fact that I wouldn't se my drone LOS when it is more than 10m from me. Even if I could see it well far away, I'd still need a spotter to be by the book. Interesting idea though. 👍
Nah, DJI doesn't have a receiver that can use HDMI out like that. Also HDMI out in general with DJI system is sketchy after 10 minutes of research on Google.
Can you get multiple live video feeds in? That would be extra interesting, being able to glance over at the feed of a spotter drone while flying an fpv...
Dude me and my friend want to do some of your builds you do awesome stuff this is literally the thing I've been thinking about and I had no idea that it might be a little work on the quest 2?
curious if the way you have this set up (small fpv screen) is less straining on the eyes than having the drone video feed be all you see like on traditional fpv goggles
Nah, DJI doesn't have a receiver that can use HDMI out like that. Also HDMI out in general with DJI system is sketchy after 10 minutes of research on Google.
Yep. That's pretty neat. I seen rotor riot do it a while ago with the apple thing ..right? But the acted like the lag was not worth it. The way your doing it seems better. And I feel this could be a future thing..idea. for either rig. If they can make it more for it.. have a full screen and Og mint reality feed. Switch between effortlessly. . But I feel your ideas are on point for the advantages. And who knows what other benefits could come from this.. maby like double recording lol.. like I said to cool.
@@hoardersam10 Interesting. Is it possible to have no augmented reality and just have a resizable screen to simulate the fpv goggle experience even better?
Hey Sam, I saw your video back on switching from DJI. I know this question might be outside of your FPV content, but would you be able to maybe help with help answering how you would have an at home-built drone connect to your phone? Figured I might be able to save money, but I also would like to get into the hobby of building my own drones. Just feel like a drone more similar to DJI and the interface it uses outside of FPV might be that steppingstone. Would mainly use the drone on vacations or just getting good action shots of outdoor activities. Would definitely appreciate any help, or if you could at least maybe point me in the right direction.
I am new to FPV. Right now, I have EMax goggles, and I want to upgrade to bigger ones. Do you recommend using those instead of dedicated goggles? I already have a Q3; I just need to buy a receiver." Thanks and happy new year!
hey hey can you make a wiring diagram if you are using a SpeedyBee TX800 VTX. i can see it only can get Voltage in:3.7-5.5V on you 100 doller drone. btw this is really cool way to fly you drone
I just lift up my goggles when the quad comes back above me and I just look at it line of sight to fly it LoS or to land it. It costs 0$ in addition to the cost of a cheap analog goggle.
I would actually like to see more the advancements in how to implement stereoscopic depth perception in fpv rather than using it as as a traditional fpv goggle with mixed reality. stereo 3d in fpv which require dual cameras would be the real game changer
Check out the older Skyzone 02X goggles, they have a 3D mode where the left and right eyes get a different analog video signal from two different frequencies, so you can run two analog setups on a single drone to get 3D in your goggles. I haven't tried it yet but it may be the easiest way to do 3D
@@hoardersam10 I thought that this would be the coolest as well, but heard it mentioned on another channel that its not really useful unless the object is close to the quadcopter b/c the parallax is so small. So in a fast-moving quadcopter its not worth the tech. :/. (I'm posting this w/o a reference b/c I don't recall the vid or channel. sorry)
You know ive been thinking of doing something like this, i was just gonna buy one of those cheap headsets your phone slides in and just use my phone haha
No, because you’re not “line of sight” if the image you’re viewing is mediated through the goggles. There are however true augmented reality glasses which technically do meet the CASA requirement, you can find demos on RUclips.
@TheVeganarchism Thanks for the tip! AR glasses appear to use USBc DP ports, so I need an intermediate device between the eachine Rotg02 receiver. Latency may become an issue.
You might be able to use the Radxa Zero 3W to convert the USB signal to HDMI to the HDZero goggles. I've just started getting into OpenIPC and I no it's used for the VRX.
Thanks for this video. I have been flying fpv for a few years and just got into vr recently. I'd been thinking about trying to figure out how to do this on my quest 3s when this video popped up. Thanks also to the algo gods. Happy New Year! Edit: I guess with this HDMI link app you could get a digital signal in as well from DJI goggles or DJI camera drones from another android phone.
Hey Sam , any chance you can post a video of all your tools? I know you usually put a good amount in the description but an in depth video of your most used tools would be awesome! If not all good
My son has a quest 2. Not the same. Might try it just for fun, I don't have the nice 5.8ghz receiver, but it might work ok. Nice job. Interesting video.
I see this as an awesome thing in my idea toolbox. Looking for ways to make fpv cheap and accesable to youth. If they have a quest 3, cheap accessory, a radio and a whoop is all thats left. Otherwise fatshark and drone used bundles are best option. Im trying to make a business with drones to fund events and education for drones around me. This would be a dope way to show it off to kids.❤
Very interesting! Is there a way to not have the FPV picture not anchored to one spot but follow your head movement? I'd love to know how it affects latency too.
Thank you for covering this. A few years ago, when the quest 2 was still the newest headset, I was annoyed that for $300 I could buy something that is way more advanced than those fatshark style goggles, with the models that make sense to buy being around twice as expensive as the quest. The value proposition was just terrible.
But Meta sells these only a bit above their costs so they can capture the market and sell games, as well as collect personal data and target ads. They also manufacture in very high quantities. FPV goggle companies only manufacture a fraction of the quantity of their goggles for a niche market and have to support their company on the profits.
I forgot to mention, the real-life view in the goggles has much better resolution than the recorded footage you see in the video. The Quest 3s has a resolution of 1832x1920, but when recording video, it only records at 1024x1024, or roughly 1/4 the amount of pixels. That's why the video looks pretty grainy, since it's fewer pixels and I have to zoom in to stretch it to widescreen.
Happy new years everyone!!
On your video on how to build the 100$ fpv drone can you please tell us were to download the auto populating file for bats flight called VTX1000mw.Jason file
@jim-xi1ml Here it is: pastebin.com/QxQWipCN
@@hoardersam10 thank you so much for that
There are a few ways to adjust the size, framerate and bitrate of the recorded in-headset video to increase quality and also allow stereo recording, if you want. You can use SideQuest, Quest Games Optimizer or via adk commands.
I was thinking of a similar setup.
The idea was to have one HD goggle to handle it all:
- Multicopter Freestyle (Bando) FPV
- 3D CAD Drawings
- Virtual/Augmented Reality
Only thing holding me back till now is. Not knowing how mutch latency it introduce with FPV
Can you please do a review about that topic.
I'm realy curious.
Thank you in advance❣️
I’ve been wishing for something like this for years!! Incredible insight, thank you for sharing this discovery!
This looks more practical and better than the one for Apple Vision Pro that Rotor Riot (I think) did a few months ago.
Dude, that is so cool! I've been thinking about buying Quest 2 back in the day for this exact reason, since they were cheaper than most digital FPV goggles, but now this mixed reality flying might be an actual game changer. I wonder if you could also have a second window for apps like Mission Planner to get a whole ground station setup in VR.
Awesome. Now hdmi input is so valuable feature!
Fascinating!! I'd love to see a Walksnail HD version!
It works great! I own quest 3 and walksnail vtx.
@@thatmanfromukrainedo you have the Moonlight vtx+dvr at 4k???
With the Avatar FPV VRX?
I'm so close to hitting the buy button right now 😂
@ I have moonlight kit laying around waiting for my first build. Right now I’m running vtx with walksnail meteor75, picture is great so far, at moonlight I believe it will be even better! In any case we can have streaming at 1080p, 4K for recording only. The only downside is that with vtx you can get only normal framerate, I believe 60fps, with goggles x you will get 100. But I would say - 60 is enough if your just a regular flyer.
@@thatmanfromukraine Do you know what the limitation is there? I thought you could get the Avatar VRX to 100FPS with 720P recording. Does the Quest 3 not allow that?
How much is the latency?
Can you do Freestyle or Bandos.
Or is that out of the spectrum?
I have been looking for this. Thanks!
Yes, you are very correct about the antennas....those are tuned for 2.4ghz- which they work mediocrelly but still much better than when attempting to use em for 5ghz
This is quite an interesting option - I already have a Quest 3, so being able to use it potentially as an FPV headset would certainly lower the cost of entry for a newcomer like myself.
How I see it, just gotta stick to analog, which if you're using a whoop, almost all are analog.
So flying indoors is even "safer" this way.
If there is any way you could post a video of how to build a cinewhoop, you're the only RUclipsr I trust for build guides.
Happy New Year Sam & ALL - thank you for this possibility was looking for this!
Very cool to see this in action! Thank you for sharing! This just made my wishlist and I'm getting this set up soon to see how this would feel. I can finally wear my glasses since Quest 3 has some spacing for this. This might be good
Trying this tonight. I already have all of these things!
I can't wait for augmented flights via fpv feed, imagine not having to set up race gates, just load a racing track on your goggles and fly away, or anything you could imagine really super mario style...
Thank you for shiwing people this Bro. I also do this with my walksnail VRX and Quest 3 passthrough then i make the screen sooooo Huge😊 and enjoy my self a !
What a great idea! Keep up the good work. Subd
Nice find!
Awesome!
Dude, you can do that at 1080p with OpenIPC :)
Or you could use OpenIPC with a USB C receiver and directly process the HD video on the Quest. Thats how i fly FPV now
What's the software setup needed on the quest for that to work?
Also what's the latency like.
Can you share what hardware you are using? I'm super interested in OpenIPC, but haven't dived into it yet, and this looks like it could be an amazing option!
The software is called fpvue_sk
That's awesome!
Triple feed patch FTW!
Love your work❤
It looks so cool
This is really smart idea. What do you recon that the latency is like?
This setup also helps people with glasses, since you dont have to put on and off them every time that you change batteries.
That’s cool
I really thought this was going to be an option with the DJI goggles 3. 😂 cool video bro
It's not?😳
I thought they had augmented reality
@ not really, can’t be used during flight. Mainly just for like plugging your quad in before take off or something of that nature
@@HaleFPVRC that realy sucks.... For a big brand like that.
Wouldn't be that hard to make a picture in picture, i guess
@ yea, I was pretty disappointed… but other than that they perform really well..
What’s the latency like on the headset??
Love this. I'd really enjoy being able to do this with my dji o3
Well Done !
It's awesome!
keep it coming
I'm going to see a power loop and a split s, please.
Nice Idea thank you for that. I dived into latency testing USB capture cards to use them with my HDZero VRX but my conclusion was sadly that the added latency is about 110 - 170 ms with the three different models I tested.
With this added latency the drone is still flyable but it makes it harder for me. So if you find a low latency card please let me know.
It would be nice if something like OpenIPC could be used with this, I've heard that can go below 50ms latency
How did you connect it?
Hey Sam! I’m using almost the same setup but with walksnail vtx, meta quest 3 and hagibis capture card. It works great! I have goggles x laying around but for some reason this setup feels much more comfortable for me, i don’t know why, maybe cause i don’t need to take off goggles while looking for my meteor75 somewhere behind my bed 😁
Can you explain more how to get the feed from the walksnail into the meta quest?
I tried this with a quest 2 and some similar cheapo 5.8g usb receiver last year and it does work although I used another app as the quest hdmi link app didn't exist yet. The latency wasn't really noticeable (especially given that I was very used to flying djis long range by the camera view before getting into actual fpv) however the big issue I found is that the virtual screen/window being locked in space instead of locked to the headset is way too distracting for me because of all the tiny head movements that become very noticeable and mainly because you can't move around irl (or aim any directional antennas you mount to your head) without resetting the view all the time with the quest controller, which is annoying and just another thing to carry around while in the field... Ended up buying some used analog goggles. I think this would be great if only there was a way to force the quest to lock an app to the headset instead of locking it in place, which from my research is sadly not possible.
How does your video feed look so good
Caddx ratel2, best quality i've found in analog cameras
Can you test with dji o3, can use it??
That's interesting. The issue is "just" 350 USD. 🙃 And the fact that I wouldn't se my drone LOS when it is more than 10m from me. Even if I could see it well far away, I'd still need a spotter to be by the book. Interesting idea though. 👍
Kindly do it with dji 03 air unit
Nah, DJI doesn't have a receiver that can use HDMI out like that. Also HDMI out in general with DJI system is sketchy after 10 minutes of research on Google.
Can you get multiple live video feeds in? That would be extra interesting, being able to glance over at the feed of a spotter drone while flying an fpv...
Dude me and my friend want to do some of your builds you do awesome stuff this is literally the thing I've been thinking about and I had no idea that it might be a little work on the quest 2?
Probably not on the 2. The active pass through is crappy, black and white and very fuzzy.
@magiofthoth I wouldn't use the pass through stuff it would just be like a full screen I wouldn't really want that pass through stuff
Does it mean we don't need a observer anymore?
Do you think there is a way to make this work with dji o3 systems ? Thanks for the vid !
Hows the lag? Did I miss that part in the vid?
I hope there is a way to charge the quest while using the receiver that will be great!
curious if the way you have this set up (small fpv screen) is less straining on the eyes than having the drone video feed be all you see like on traditional fpv goggles
Yeah I actually prefer it smaller but those who want the large screen can make it bigger or walk closer to the screen
yo thats fire, is it possible with the o3 aswell?
I don't think so, DJI doesn't like giving us HDMI
Nah, DJI doesn't have a receiver that can use HDMI out like that. Also HDMI out in general with DJI system is sketchy after 10 minutes of research on Google.
Would this work with the Quest 2?
DJI goggles 3 tap tap pic in pic and clear probably costs less. Good innovation though
I saw a similar project a few months ago and someone said the latency was terrible. Is this the same for all glasses systems? 🤟👍
How's the latency in your opinion?
Yep. That's pretty neat. I seen rotor riot do it a while ago with the apple thing ..right? But the acted like the lag was not worth it. The way your doing it seems better. And I feel this could be a future thing..idea. for either rig. If they can make it more for it.. have a full screen and Og mint reality feed. Switch between effortlessly. . But I feel your ideas are on point for the advantages. And who knows what other benefits could come from this.. maby like double recording lol.. like I said to cool.
Can you fullscreen this to make a similar field of view of a normal analog fpv goggle?
Yes or even bigger. You can drag the window around or also just walk around in real life to get closer
@@hoardersam10 Interesting. Is it possible to have no augmented reality and just have a resizable screen to simulate the fpv goggle experience even better?
@iffyfpv Kind of, you can side load a black virtual environment to get that effect. But by default, Meta only gives us colorful visual environments
Hey Sam, I saw your video back on switching from DJI. I know this question might be outside of your FPV content, but would you be able to maybe help with help answering how you would have an at home-built drone connect to your phone? Figured I might be able to save money, but I also would like to get into the hobby of building my own drones. Just feel like a drone more similar to DJI and the interface it uses outside of FPV might be that steppingstone. Would mainly use the drone on vacations or just getting good action shots of outdoor activities. Would definitely appreciate any help, or if you could at least maybe point me in the right direction.
Guys is there a way i can install the dji fly app onto my Quest 3 goggles ?
I am new to FPV. Right now, I have EMax goggles, and I want to upgrade to bigger ones. Do you recommend using those instead of dedicated goggles? I already have a Q3; I just need to buy a receiver."
Thanks and happy new year!
What camera are you using?
Caddx ratel2, best quality i've found in analog cameras
Nice
hey hey can you make a wiring diagram if you are using a SpeedyBee TX800 VTX. i can see it only can get Voltage in:3.7-5.5V on you 100 doller drone. btw this is really cool way to fly you drone
I had essentially this same view 10 years ago with a monitor on a tripod... no goggles.
For all the people who want to fly LOS like quadmovr, this will speed up the process to getting anywhere near that level of skill.
Can anyone recommend a controller for DJI drones? I just picked up a Neo and already have a Quest.
Cool but latency issues?
I cant perceive it on my setup (on a quest 3 non s), but im not a super high speed racer.
I just lift up my goggles when the quad comes back above me and I just look at it line of sight to fly it LoS or to land it. It costs 0$ in addition to the cost of a cheap analog goggle.
I would actually like to see more the advancements in how to implement stereoscopic depth perception in fpv rather than using it as as a traditional fpv goggle with mixed reality. stereo 3d in fpv which require dual cameras would be the real game changer
Check out the older Skyzone 02X goggles, they have a 3D mode where the left and right eyes get a different analog video signal from two different frequencies, so you can run two analog setups on a single drone to get 3D in your goggles. I haven't tried it yet but it may be the easiest way to do 3D
Dude that would be pretty cool, kinda like the 3ds
@@hoardersam10 I thought that this would be the coolest as well, but heard it mentioned on another channel that its not really useful unless the object is close to the quadcopter b/c the parallax is so small. So in a fast-moving quadcopter its not worth the tech. :/. (I'm posting this w/o a reference b/c I don't recall the vid or channel. sorry)
You know ive been thinking of doing something like this, i was just gonna buy one of those cheap headsets your phone slides in and just use my phone haha
range?
I wonder if I could use augmented reality goggles as a workaround to CASA ban on FPV in Australia. I doubt it...😢
No, because you’re not “line of sight” if the image you’re viewing is mediated through the goggles. There are however true augmented reality glasses which technically do meet the CASA requirement, you can find demos on RUclips.
@TheVeganarchism Thanks for the tip! AR glasses appear to use USBc DP ports, so I need an intermediate device between the eachine Rotg02 receiver. Latency may become an issue.
i did that a while ago in oculus 2, and latency was horrible, makes it barely flyable.
🥽👏🔥 yooo!
not supposed to take the vr headsets out in direct sunlight - so maybe stay inside a car or under some cover... thats what ive read anyways!
You might be able to use the Radxa Zero 3W to convert the USB signal to HDMI to the HDZero goggles. I've just started getting into OpenIPC and I no it's used for the VRX.
Thanks for this video. I have been flying fpv for a few years and just got into vr recently. I'd been thinking about trying to figure out how to do this on my quest 3s when this video popped up. Thanks also to the algo gods. Happy New Year! Edit: I guess with this HDMI link app you could get a digital signal in as well from DJI goggles or DJI camera drones from another android phone.
Hey Sam , any chance you can post a video of all your tools? I know you usually put a good amount in the description but an in depth video of your most used tools would be awesome! If not all good
My son has a quest 2. Not the same. Might try it just for fun, I don't have the nice 5.8ghz receiver, but it might work ok. Nice job. Interesting video.
Am I gonna be that guy?
Yeah, I'm gonna be that guy, *ahem* : how is this different from flying FPV with a monitor on a tripod?
If you find a card that works with HDZero, would you please do this same kind of build/demo video? This is fantastic!
Would this work with the dji neo?
DJI doesn't like to give us video-output so it won't work
It looks like a good idea, but I like the way my box goggles fully fill my view
I see this as an awesome thing in my idea toolbox.
Looking for ways to make fpv cheap and accesable to youth.
If they have a quest 3, cheap accessory, a radio and a whoop is all thats left.
Otherwise fatshark and drone used bundles are best option.
Im trying to make a business with drones to fund events and education for drones around me.
This would be a dope way to show it off to kids.❤
nfw
looks cool, but... future with analog? dont think so
Works with a HDMI capture card as well - I just tested it with HDzero.
Very interesting! Is there a way to not have the FPV picture not anchored to one spot but follow your head movement? I'd love to know how it affects latency too.
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future of fpv? what problem does this solve?
youre looking at a flat acreen in vr while you could just have a screen in real life
Thank you for covering this. A few years ago, when the quest 2 was still the newest headset, I was annoyed that for $300 I could buy something that is way more advanced than those fatshark style goggles, with the models that make sense to buy being around twice as expensive as the quest. The value proposition was just terrible.
But Meta sells these only a bit above their costs so they can capture the market and sell games, as well as collect personal data and target ads. They also manufacture in very high quantities. FPV goggle companies only manufacture a fraction of the quantity of their goggles for a niche market and have to support their company on the profits.