DMT buffs are terrible. You're just going to have hunters clearing shit and locks selling summons like we always have. Almost nobody is going to acquire the huffs organically. I don't mind most of the other buffs in terms of acquisition. These buffs are going to become a "requirement" for damn near every raider. Not looking forward.
Non stop bangers! 🔥 p4 hype! I would have liked to see few more meaningful paladins changes but I understand they need to put this patch out asap and then fine tune from there. I really think people aren’t appreciating this whole project enough. We’re in the vanilla landscape and we’re making combat not feel so clunky and make sense. And I’m here for it. Giving the team constructive feedback is key, and they are listening (mostly) kind of. lol you know what I mean lock it in you degens it’s time to grind!
To get thunderfury you needed elementium bars which you needed to learn that from bwl. I think people forget that and it should be buffed a little atleast.
Hello! a question not rly regarding this video: Is there any chance you could make a "summary video" of all the new things to paladin going into P4? many ppl are returning to the game atm and starting to read up on blueposts, but changes back and forth makes it hard to know the actual state of how the paladin works atm, and what the major changes are (yes I know about sealtwisting) :) Divide it into 3 sections - holy - prot - ret (and shockadin?)
I get how world buffs make the world feel more alive. Otherwise Alliance would never leave their city. Someone in guild suggested that they should make world buffs persist through death. Taking all the stress away of wiping in raid. Bad feeling when someone messes up and everyone gets screwed. They are almost there with the 5min boon cd. BUT I think add a cd to world buffs like dmf. So, you cant have buffs 24/7 lol.
For world buffs: Make a songflower purchasable item with undermine coins since that one is the most unfun one to get. Also give druids the a lesser version of it. Make diremaul worldbuffs into one worldbuff given by Cho'Rush the Observer as long as the other bosses are alive. Give rogues/priests/mages a mini version of the worldbuffs (ap,stam,spellcrit respectively). Give shamans/paladins the warchief/stormwind lesser world buff. (trying to keep the worldbuff givers on a theme that fit's their class fantasy). give the zandalari lesser worldbuff to hunters. I ran out of ideas for that one. edit: give a darkmoon prize that is effectively a magic 8 ball that you can use to get a dmf world buff (can choose it based on the question you ask) with a cd equal to the normal dmf worldbuff.
I wish everyone luck with the upcoming phase. Thanks for sticking around for the journey. Brother Tello may the Light be with you as we wage war in phase 4!
For world buffs either eliminate them, make them persist through death or put them on a vendor. Half my guild (or more) have said they will not raid (or return) if all world buffs are mandatory.
World buffs are a reason to play the game, cutting the acquisition out just makes the game closer to just raiding with consumes.... We have lost players because the devs took away the vanilla reasons to play the game. No rep farms no chase items because we get showered in loot without WBs we will just be hanging out in SW all day.
Hey that was me that got aggrend to comment on TF in all seriousness, the team needs to give this sword some love, cuz at this point it’s not legendary anymore or worth the money spent. All they need to do is buff the current stats a little. It would be the same sword just stronger so that way it’ll still be the best sword in the game.
I appreciate the post amigo, def was an interesting conversation worth the coverage and will see what happens in the future if any decisions come along to possibly change it.
I mean sulfuras was replaced in vanilla too by weapons such as the corrupted ashbringer and might of menethil. So I guess those same weapons will be the ones replacing it again (and we’ll probably have the quest of purified ashbringer anyway)
I kinda wish they just went the route where classes give the mini world buffs like warrior, if there was a way to get rid of some of the world buffs I think songflower and DMF could go, not really fan of getting both.
Thunderfury not getting a change is kind of lame, if its not going to get changes and buffs no one will want it because its going to get replaced super fast in phase 5. Unless they are looking to add an upgrade path to the weapon making it stronger down the road. But I don't think they are looking that far ahead as they play catch up after spending so much time on Cata release.
With thunderfury I think they didn't want to overpower it as they want to added other weapons in the future and easily to get so everyone can have some fun in SOD. as thunderfury is already overpowered in this phase regardless.
thunderfury shouldnt of changed at all but they should have buffed the numbers to make it insanley op, for dps it gets outclassed in BWL by CTS and maladath
Upgraded Rivendare Sword is on the Radar in SoD. The Regen in Classic USE TOO have spell power ratio behind it. Only issue with the blade was lake of stats...
i get wanting to make every phase in SoD feel good for everyone but one of the things that made Classic well classic was there was usually always a reason to go back to the other phases raids as the gear that dropped from then was still worth getting. making it so you replace every piece of gear every time a new phase drops just feels meh.
I think world buffs are def kinda a needed thing in classic i remember them trying it in SoM where they took them out and that was def a mistake. but the way you get these world buffs are a pain in the ass I saw a post on reddit i think where someone suggested with the new undermine reals make the world buff a purchasable item that has charges on it thus making doing dungeons still relevant for raid time or maybe even making these world buffs a purchasable item again from rep vendors.
Have them give a scroll item to seal a world buff into it and be used later to get the full buff on demand. It can only hold one world buff. Though with this, I would change the diremaul world buff combine into one worldbuff with all the buffs in it. Or at the very least, have a songflower consumable that can be purchased with undermined coins since that worldbuff sucks the most.
I came from classic to sod so I'm used to the world buff setup. But I could see the current system and expectation of having them being tedious to a casual player. Once they are all out, grabbing dmt, songflower, ony, nef, might of stormwind now as well, and zg takes quite a bit of time. I don't mind it personally but I wouldn't be opposed to them making it easier either. I know Sulfuras is an iconic pally weapon, but as a druid, it seems to be bis threat for bear and bis for cat as well. Who do you think should have prio on this? As a druid tank in a group with 4+ pallies, I need to know lol. Love the content my dude.
Hand of Rag for slow 2h is our BIS for sure. The other 2x options are viable as well, some other decent options but don't come close to Rag on the sims for this playstyle.
I think that World buffs in a raiding environment are an issue. If you are in a guild that is progging bosses and you guys wipe and lose your world buffs it kills the vibe of the raid. There are 4 ways I see blizzard dealing with world buffs. 1) They do nothing with them and keep it how it was in Classic. 2) They prevent world buffs from being used in raids like SoM. 3) Give each class (or most) a nerfed world buff to provide to the raid so a wipe doesn't feel as awful when progging. (this is warriors with rallying cry of the dragon slayer) 4) They put an NPC at the begging of each raid that give all worldbuffs that you have aquired at anypoint. I really hope that the warrior change to give them a world buff is seen as a good change from the community so blizzard will be more likely to add more nerfed world buffs to other classes.
Is nobody talking about the new dungeon loot? Most of this shit is worse than ST gear, we gonna pull half of the dungeon in one pull to get worse or 2%better items than we have ? They seem to have 0 clue about balancing the game. Make trash and bosses actually entertaining instead of piniatas and more interesting loot or the prebis phase is dead and sod is dead to me
I think WBs should just persist through death.. I also think DMF shouldn’t be a buff able to go in raid with… as a healer healing Reid’s I am always worried if someone dies they are gonna flip about the WBs.. I guess it also causes players to play better be on there game more
DMT buffs are terrible. You're just going to have hunters clearing shit and locks selling summons like we always have. Almost nobody is going to acquire the huffs organically.
I don't mind most of the other buffs in terms of acquisition. These buffs are going to become a "requirement" for damn near every raider. Not looking forward.
World buffs should be sold at a vendor.
should not exist* there fixed
Non stop bangers! 🔥 p4 hype! I would have liked to see few more meaningful paladins changes but I understand they need to put this patch out asap and then fine tune from there. I really think people aren’t appreciating this whole project enough. We’re in the vanilla landscape and we’re making combat not feel so clunky and make sense. And I’m here for it. Giving the team constructive feedback is key, and they are listening (mostly) kind of. lol you know what I mean lock it in you degens it’s time to grind!
As a fellow Paladin much love bro! well tank pally "Thorin" thank you for these videos, they make my day!
To get thunderfury you needed elementium bars which you needed to learn that from bwl. I think people forget that and it should be buffed a little atleast.
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Hello! a question not rly regarding this video: Is there any chance you could make a "summary video" of all the new things to paladin going into P4? many ppl are returning to the game atm and starting to read up on blueposts, but changes back and forth makes it hard to know the actual state of how the paladin works atm, and what the major changes are (yes I know about sealtwisting) :) Divide it into 3 sections - holy - prot - ret (and shockadin?)
I get how world buffs make the world feel more alive. Otherwise Alliance would never leave their city. Someone in guild suggested that they should make world buffs persist through death. Taking all the stress away of wiping in raid. Bad feeling when someone messes up and everyone gets screwed. They are almost there with the 5min boon cd. BUT I think add a cd to world buffs like dmf. So, you cant have buffs 24/7 lol.
For world buffs:
Make a songflower purchasable item with undermine coins since that one is the most unfun one to get. Also give druids the a lesser version of it.
Make diremaul worldbuffs into one worldbuff given by Cho'Rush the Observer as long as the other bosses are alive. Give rogues/priests/mages a mini version of the worldbuffs (ap,stam,spellcrit respectively).
Give shamans/paladins the warchief/stormwind lesser world buff. (trying to keep the worldbuff givers on a theme that fit's their class fantasy).
give the zandalari lesser worldbuff to hunters. I ran out of ideas for that one.
edit: give a darkmoon prize that is effectively a magic 8 ball that you can use to get a dmf world buff (can choose it based on the question you ask) with a cd equal to the normal dmf worldbuff.
I wish everyone luck with the upcoming phase. Thanks for sticking around for the journey. Brother Tello may the Light be with you as we wage war in phase 4!
As always amigo, locked in 🔒
I wish you good fortune in the wars to come
Someone just bought my krol blade off the AH for 1500g. I'm ready for p4!
For world buffs either eliminate them, make them persist through death or put them on a vendor. Half my guild (or more) have said they will not raid (or return) if all world buffs are mandatory.
World buffs are a reason to play the game, cutting the acquisition out just makes the game closer to just raiding with consumes.... We have lost players because the devs took away the vanilla reasons to play the game. No rep farms no chase items because we get showered in loot without WBs we will just be hanging out in SW all day.
Are we able to buy more honor coins after the weekly reset to get honor 4 next phase ? I got 99 stacked right now 4more goldcoins to spend on it.
Hey that was me that got aggrend to comment on TF in all seriousness, the team needs to give this sword some love, cuz at this point it’s not legendary anymore or worth the money spent.
All they need to do is buff the current stats a little. It would be the same sword just stronger so that way it’ll still be the best sword in the game.
I appreciate the post amigo, def was an interesting conversation worth the coverage and will see what happens in the future if any decisions come along to possibly change it.
I mean sulfuras was replaced in vanilla too by weapons such as the corrupted ashbringer and might of menethil. So I guess those same weapons will be the ones replacing it again (and we’ll probably have the quest of purified ashbringer anyway)
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I kinda wish they just went the route where classes give the mini world buffs like warrior, if there was a way to get rid of some of the world buffs I think songflower and DMF could go, not really fan of getting both.
Thunderfury not getting a change is kind of lame, if its not going to get changes and buffs no one will want it because its going to get replaced super fast in phase 5. Unless they are looking to add an upgrade path to the weapon making it stronger down the road. But I don't think they are looking that far ahead as they play catch up after spending so much time on Cata release.
Yea ima chase hand of rag for primarily and maybe later down the line go for Thunderfury, will see though
What u mean? It's still gonna be best tank wep, boosting it would be ridicilous
WTH ?
The weapon was used even late TBC as it is... and the pleb wants it buffed ? I'm dead
P4 Hype! Much love to ya Tello, great Video.
With thunderfury I think they didn't want to overpower it as they want to added other weapons in the future and easily to get so everyone can have some fun in SOD. as thunderfury is already overpowered in this phase regardless.
thunderfury shouldnt of changed at all but they should have buffed the numbers to make it insanley op, for dps it gets outclassed in BWL by CTS and maladath
HOLD THE PHONE!!
Sulfuron Hammer... is actually PIMP now.
She has 10 str and stam with 30 Fire Resist...
That's HUGE
I am super over world buffs in SOD.
That Pod was an absolute pleasure good sir, can't wait for more and phase 4!
much luv amigo 💪🏽
Best class to get invites easy to raids in phase 4? Paladin, priest or warrior ?
Paladins def for mana battery are super important for util, overall though all 3 are really good for multiple reasons
Upgraded Rivendare Sword is on the Radar in SoD. The Regen in Classic USE TOO have spell power ratio behind it.
Only issue with the blade was lake of stats...
Yeah, that regen aura is awesome
yea that 26+ stam and ap boost on top of the regen/speed seems really nice
World buffs re ona of the very best parts of classic wow .. there never can be too much of them.
Ask around because I am not 100% sure on this...
But Replacing RAG for PvE = Fine
PvP = Not Fine
Cant wait. So glad the current state of shams is going live 🙄
i get wanting to make every phase in SoD feel good for everyone but one of the things that made Classic well classic was there was usually always a reason to go back to the other phases raids as the gear that dropped from then was still worth getting. making it so you replace every piece of gear every time a new phase drops just feels meh.
You set me up…. I waited in offline chat for hours and you never came…. Felt like my childhood all over again..
lmao I was packed up in bed 😂
I think world buffs are def kinda a needed thing in classic i remember them trying it in SoM where they took them out and that was def a mistake. but the way you get these world buffs are a pain in the ass I saw a post on reddit i think where someone suggested with the new undermine reals make the world buff a purchasable item that has charges on it thus making doing dungeons still relevant for raid time or maybe even making these world buffs a purchasable item again from rep vendors.
Have them give a scroll item to seal a world buff into it and be used later to get the full buff on demand. It can only hold one world buff. Though with this, I would change the diremaul world buff combine into one worldbuff with all the buffs in it. Or at the very least, have a songflower consumable that can be purchased with undermined coins since that worldbuff sucks the most.
Problem for hand of rag is it’s going Druid prio now. So idk
I came from classic to sod so I'm used to the world buff setup. But I could see the current system and expectation of having them being tedious to a casual player. Once they are all out, grabbing dmt, songflower, ony, nef, might of stormwind now as well, and zg takes quite a bit of time. I don't mind it personally but I wouldn't be opposed to them making it easier either.
I know Sulfuras is an iconic pally weapon, but as a druid, it seems to be bis threat for bear and bis for cat as well. Who do you think should have prio on this? As a druid tank in a group with 4+ pallies, I need to know lol. Love the content my dude.
hand of rag still our BiS then for ret? 2nd BiS is Obsidian Edge Blade or the reinforced arcanite reaper?
Hand of Rag for slow 2h is our BIS for sure. The other 2x options are viable as well, some other decent options but don't come close to Rag on the sims for this playstyle.
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I think that World buffs in a raiding environment are an issue. If you are in a guild that is progging bosses and you guys wipe and lose your world buffs it kills the vibe of the raid. There are 4 ways I see blizzard dealing with world buffs. 1) They do nothing with them and keep it how it was in Classic. 2) They prevent world buffs from being used in raids like SoM. 3) Give each class (or most) a nerfed world buff to provide to the raid so a wipe doesn't feel as awful when progging. (this is warriors with rallying cry of the dragon slayer) 4) They put an NPC at the begging of each raid that give all worldbuffs that you have aquired at anypoint. I really hope that the warrior change to give them a world buff is seen as a good change from the community so blizzard will be more likely to add more nerfed world buffs to other classes.
Is nobody talking about the new dungeon loot? Most of this shit is worse than ST gear, we gonna pull half of the dungeon in one pull to get worse or 2%better items than we have ? They seem to have 0 clue about balancing the game. Make trash and bosses actually entertaining instead of piniatas and more interesting loot or the prebis phase is dead and sod is dead to me
Lock it in!
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Obviously they can’t rework thunderfury. When the add the wow token to sod it would throw everything out of wack
lol not the WoW Token 😆
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Thunderfurry don't really have to be buffed, i remember my friend was still using thunderfurry in tbc raids. The TF proc is already broken.
yea that's why I understand the reasoning behind it, the proc chance especially on a Paladin for our uses is amazing
Sod hype boys! ❤
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World buffs are lame would be better without them or 1 at most
Hello my paly bro, i dislike wbs, its so boring to run everywhere before raids
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Maybe they will let you upgrade hand of rag in the later raids man.
this is possible, I am just curious on Aggrend's wording more than anything, will see
@@HelloJTello yeah we shall see hoping for the best man!
I think WBs should just persist through death.. I also think DMF shouldn’t be a buff able to go in raid with… as a healer healing Reid’s I am always worried if someone dies they are gonna flip about the WBs.. I guess it also causes players to play better be on there game more
this content is fucking weird
But they change Hand of Ragnaros in the dumbest way possible. Classic Blizz fuck up in the most copout way there is.