Not even a dwarf player, but videos like this are so helpful for everybody starting out. I really love how this creator TOW scene is growin, cooperating and producing a positive vibe and community!
@@everydayisfriday4885 thank you ! Really I think we just want everyone to enjoy the game we’re enjoying and show how much we’re loving it :) and hopefully helping people get into it :)
As a new dwarf player, I really appreciate this. Not only does it show example lists but builds on them with actual deployment/tactics- so very helpful, thank you. I'll raise a bugmans to you.
I came here for the dwarf content, but it's a good video format and I'd like more people to get into playing the old world, so a how to start vid for every faction is a great idea.
As a grizzled longbeard, there wasn't much in this video for me. I thought it was great though! I especially liked how you demonstrated your deployment with actual models on the table and really explained your reasoning. Great for the beardlings. Can't wait for more videos from you.
Very nice demonstration on deployment and reasoning for why you deploy that way. Deployment has always been my biggest weak point so this helps very much.
Production quality is improving, your lighting is looking much better Richy! 👏💡 Great approach using real-world situations that beginners find themselves, in regards to building an army with your first purchases. The Dwarfen Mountain Holds have such a great variety of units that it's tough to commit, so getting these great recommendations is super valuable especially when it comes time to expand. The deployment demonstration was a nice addition, and I would suggest the opposite angle (your POV) since players won't be looking at their own army from the other side of the board (though I recommend players do that during their games, as it helps you see your force from your opponent's POV). Fantastic video and I think it will give a lot of new players exactly what they need to succeed! 👏
Thank you very much appreciate the feedback :) I know they aren’t the strongest or the most fine tune lists but it’s the cheapest entry point to a decent army for someone starting so hopefully it helps :) noted mate thank you very much !
First time on your channel. Love the way you explain everything so clearly and concisely and especially love the formation examples, very useful for beginners. Now I wish someone would do something similar for High Elves! Top job!
@@foreverthesceptic7942 thank you so much ! I will get round to doing other factions and breakdown , but I’ve got a lot to cover with my favourite faction first !
Fantastic ! Thank you very much for the clear and concise explanations 👍 I listened to it while painting my fireball thane (your previous video convinced me to build one 😅). Darven players are so lucky to have a player like you sharing his knowledge of the game so nicely 👌 Keep up the great work 💪
Thank you so much I’m really glad you’re enjoying it ! Yes !! I love the fireball thane ! He’s so good for clearing units that have stacked minus to hit or anything with light armour ! Dwarfs are such a great army ! Thank you !
You forgot to talk about the Thunderes on the 2k list. Love the video. As a longbeard, having fought the war of vengeance against the elgi, i appreciate this run down on how the army now plays.
Dwarves are always going to be known as a gunline army, but they have some very useful, but expensive combat troops! I'll send this to my friend, who's just decided to build himself a bearded army and see if he picks up on some of the things you've said here 😄
Yeah the problem is with the low move you need the range projection , don’t get me wrong you can yeet a unit a turn but then it’s undefended out in the mid board , I’ve been to events with purely melee dwarves but it’s a hard day with some match ups haha
My plan for my initial Dawi list is a battalion box, Miners box, cannon+organ gun box, and then the engineer box. planning to run them as an expeditionary force and upgrading them all to the tits. The "fun" is going to be the 2 units of 10 miners with steam drills and the rangers + copters getting nice and up in everyone's business. No idea if it will be good but to be honest I dont care xD It will look like a Dawi army but should give me a few more options than static gunline.
@@Dawiafterdark Also bringing a miners cart so that my warriors can stand and shoot with blasting charges (but mostly because if it blows up and wipes out a huge chunk of my frontline I think it would be really funny)
@@Spandau-Filet === 1k [997 pts] Warhammer: The Old World, Dwarfen Mountain Holds, Royal Clan === ++ Characters [493 pts] ++ Thane [344 pts] - Hand weapon - Great weapon - Full plate armour - Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle + Rune of Courage] - Shieldbearers - Master Rune of Gromril - Rune of Preservation - Rune of the Furnace Runesmith [149 pts] - Hand weapon - Great weapon - Full plate armour - Shield - General - 3x Rune of Spellbreaking ++ Core Units [303 pts] ++ 17 Longbeards [303 pts] - Hand weapons - Great weapons - Heavy armour - Shields - Drilled - Elder (champion) [Rune of Passage] - Standard bearer [Rune of Battle] - Musician ++ Rare Units [201 pts] ++ 11 Irondrakes [201 pts] - Hand weapons - Drakeguns - Full plate armour - Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs] --- Created with "Old World Builder" [old-world-builder.com]
Love this, and I just hope to remember it when it comes time to play! One thing I would love some advice on however, alternative models to GW. I've been printing the Steelhill Dwarfs from Dakkadakka and came across so many different mini ranges and files for variety
Thank you ! So I use , highland minis , scribor minis and white angel miniature for mine , if you don’t have a printer check the description out as my freind has offfered a 15 percent off prints with the channel code if that helps :)
Another great video! :) You didnt say so I have too.......This video was "Absolutely crazy! LOVE IT. Looking forward to seeing your recommended veteran builds!!!
KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA! I don't play Old World (haven't played WHFB since 8th edition) but if I started again, I'd crack out all my dwarfs sitting in a box in a cupboard :D would need to rebase everything on 25mm. Great vids!
@@Dawiafterdark Played my first game today, 1k points vs empire, I had your shieldbearer thane (non bsb), fireball thane, 16 rangers, 10 ironbreakers and 11 hammerers and I got very lucky, only losing 4 dwarfs total but getting I think 1250 victory points vs my regular opponent, wiped his army plus general plus 3 banners, and we're STOKED to play more.
Thank you ! So as you can’t fit in a anvil really at those points I would surest one so you have some agency in the game , being able to tech out and touch your opponent really helps
Hey, im just starting old world and found your video! One question i have is, can you have both sheild and great weapons on the warriors? Or do i decide one of them? Thx!
Hi ! So in grand army you can have both and choose , the in the journal army the royal clans you have to pick one to have all game so the warriors in the grand army and x force are much for versatile
very nice video ! i ll trully try your deploiement style because it is my biggest problem (even in 40k). I think i never try Stubborn before and i like how you choice to use it. Hopping other example of list for royal clan and xpedition! Highland miniatures are very very nice :). I print all my army from them STL ^^
Thank you ! Have a go with it you’ll be surprised how well it works as the units that pop stubborn survive and you keep the points so it’s a really good points denial tactic . And me ! Have you seen white angel miniatures ? I’m going to print some dwarfs from that range too
@@Dawiafterdark i look for "the white angel miniatures" -> there are some very good looking miniature! (doomseekers, king killer, axe machine for example). All the miniatures would be perfect for a slayers royal clan list :)
Hey Richie great video! Quick Q: You only mention the role of the breath weapon on the gyro for skirmirshers, but the clattergun I assume is for weak chaff units of infantry?
@@ComandaKronikk thank you ! Yeah so for the clatter gun would just be pot shots at lightly armoured infantry or trying to make units with evade use it early , the point of the steam gun on skirmish units is you can usually position where you can hit most of the unit and it doesn’t suffer any negative modifiers to hit like ballistic skill shooting into them .
I was wondering, as starting TOW with my old dwarf army, how can we deal with ethereal units? Ive seen really few things that give us magical attacks. Just the rune for the guns on the thane, the hammerers and the anvil can do magical attacks. Im I missing something? Green Knight is starting to drive me crazy.
So , any rune gives magical attacks we actually have the most access to magical attacks of any of the armies . You can give champions magical attacks with any rune , any rune on artillery gives magical and the fireball thanes :)
@@Dawiafterdark Thank you. Didnt know that. Is there anyhow to give magical attacks to a whole units? I understand that banner runes doesnt give magical attacks tho.
@@user-qd7rp8yn6i hey ! So they are 3d prints , check out highland miniatures and white angel miniatures studios , in the description of my video there is a company called ukcustomprints that has them all stocked and if you use the code DAWIAFTERDARK you get 15 percent everything :)
@@sebastiandominguez2601 so I did say that this was the cheapest way building up but if you wanted could add an anvil , but luckily most damage spells are fire which the irondrakes have a 5 up on are too , and illusion shouldn’t bother you too much as you won’t be charging with this list
I think the more competitive you want to play you will need to be able to stop some spells , but with the magic resist built in and the anvil only being a level three for dispelling you can’t dispell most of the time anyway , luckily most spells don’t do too much to us apart from pillar of fire
Great video mate! The thane with shiedbearers is only unit strength 1? It does say in the rules though that it's actually 4 models, so why wouldn't it be 4?
@@BenGoodvachDraffin so it counts as four models for the amount of models in the unit , but it only counts as unit strength 1 as it’s an infantry model
Hmm ok yeah the rule does say '...a model with shieldbearers hhas a split profile and follows the cavalry rule. In all other respects, this model is heavy infantry' Seems like an oversight though
On top of the damage push through being higher, grudge throwers just need to see the target. Cannons still need to have LOS to the spot they are placing even with large target.
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah but a grudge thrower only got a 27% chance to hit while a cannon gets 67% chance to hit. If you include an engineer grudge thrower only 33% chance to hit while a cannon gets 88% chance to hit. Sure the cannon only AP2 but it does have AB2 and alot more likely to hit.
I've tried this deployment but without the hill I've found the the grudge throwers won't have LOS due to the wide lines so they will need to fire indirect. How do I get around that?
@@Dawiafterdark ah yes duh good point. I play against an alarming amount of Bretonnia players who run the Duke on peg which has clouded my brain as of late. Normally I run both on extreme opposite flanks for brets.
Great video! Love the practical examples! Without a hill where you put an organ gun in this set up? I don’t have two grudge throwers atm. I have 14 rangers and 10 iron drakes to make the gun line with iron breakers and longbeards behind waiting.
@@Dawiafterdark Great mate! I have tried to have one smaller unit of 8 to scout up the field to get some early kills/harass. Have worked good in some games. But from now on i will try using them in open order instead.
@@Dawiafterdark Small recap: Had a small 750p test game yesterday against nomadic waagh. 14 rangers in open order, 9 drakes, some warriors and a gyro. After 6 rounds i had lost 1 drake and a single wound on my gyro. The greenskins had a bigboss on boar left on the table. And it was fleeing. Great fun to try for me, not so much for my mate. Next time i will try Royal Clans with less shooting more combat.
@@RubenSanchez-b2l tanky as shot heros to challenge them out while you have static combat res 7 units so you win combat , double outnumber them so hopefully they flee and if they roll bad and roll well run them down I’ve done that a fair few times now
@@Dawiafterdark the problem i saw is that, if you want to have at least a +5 in combat with double banner, etc to match a -5 in a dragon duel challenge, you have to resiste first charge, and have a lot of multiple charges later, if you do so, you dont expend enough points on range to try to kill big dragons or something, bad times to be a dwarf player in dragonhammer because is ease to have a charge by 2 dragons, or dragon + phoenix+eagle...
@@RubenSanchez-b2l if you have banner of hesitation they don’t get first charge :) as it’s an ability that procs from charging :) so personally from lots of experience we can’t kill triple save dragons with ranged attacks , but what we can do it table the rest of the army around the dragon and lock the dragon in combat , then with abit of luck beat it in combat , rune of smiting definitely helps , it’s a hard game initially multiple dragons . But most armies struggle it’s not just us :)
I got made to order stuff. Expet kings and slayers. (Dragon company with comand; helga. Engemers .comand? )all metal and one even got DC paper baner. I happy with them as i pla it 3rd army in future. I sad i miss cards becose same sneke goblin send my local shop it "could"o order cards. Before like before pre order.. but it turns out he cold not and he even talko to represantive. I was sad bacose that day i visit gw store. At least i got dwarfs dice.
Not even a dwarf player, but videos like this are so helpful for everybody starting out. I really love how this creator TOW scene is growin, cooperating and producing a positive vibe and community!
@@everydayisfriday4885 thank you ! Really I think we just want everyone to enjoy the game we’re enjoying and show how much we’re loving it :) and hopefully helping people get into it :)
As a new dwarf player, I really appreciate this. Not only does it show example lists but builds on them with actual deployment/tactics- so very helpful, thank you.
I'll raise a bugmans to you.
Thank you very much !
Really like this series. I know this is a dwarf channel, but if you did this for other factions that would be awesome
Thank you :) I was thinking about doing it for the new chaos box actually
@@Dawiafterdark You should!
I came here for the dwarf content, but it's a good video format and I'd like more people to get into playing the old world, so a how to start vid for every faction is a great idea.
@@markysgeeklab8783 Agreed!
As a grizzled longbeard, there wasn't much in this video for me. I thought it was great though! I especially liked how you demonstrated your deployment with actual models on the table and really explained your reasoning. Great for the beardlings. Can't wait for more videos from you.
@@Swoop0229 really glad you enjoyed it ! Definitely for the beardlings but still glad you enjoyed it !
Love this - amazingly helpful. I know exactly where to start now. Cheers Richy!
@@HWG_tim thanks mate !
Very nice demonstration on deployment and reasoning for why you deploy that way. Deployment has always been my biggest weak point so this helps very much.
@@russellserenka4498 thank you I hope it helps !
Production quality is improving, your lighting is looking much better Richy! 👏💡
Great approach using real-world situations that beginners find themselves, in regards to building an army with your first purchases. The Dwarfen Mountain Holds have such a great variety of units that it's tough to commit, so getting these great recommendations is super valuable especially when it comes time to expand.
The deployment demonstration was a nice addition, and I would suggest the opposite angle (your POV) since players won't be looking at their own army from the other side of the board (though I recommend players do that during their games, as it helps you see your force from your opponent's POV).
Fantastic video and I think it will give a lot of new players exactly what they need to succeed! 👏
Thank you very much appreciate the feedback :) I know they aren’t the strongest or the most fine tune lists but it’s the cheapest entry point to a decent army for someone starting so hopefully it helps :) noted mate thank you very much !
To get an easier force on the table while I work on my Beastmen, I have been looking at Dwarfs. This helps a ton!
@@rykerm4249 glad it helped !
Twas my plan exactly! Cant wait to see the contents of the beast batallion!
By my flimsy beard this is good stuff!!! EXACTLY what i was looking for. You just earned yourself a subsbriber mate!
@@andreasrasmussen195 thank you so much ! Glad to have you !
First time on your channel. Love the way you explain everything so clearly and concisely and especially love the formation examples, very useful for beginners. Now I wish someone would do something similar for High Elves! Top job!
@@foreverthesceptic7942 thank you so much ! I will get round to doing other factions and breakdown , but I’ve got a lot to cover with my favourite faction first !
@@Dawiafterdark Awesome. Look forward to it!
Fantastic ! Thank you very much for the clear and concise explanations 👍 I listened to it while painting my fireball thane (your previous video convinced me to build one 😅).
Darven players are so lucky to have a player like you sharing his knowledge of the game so nicely 👌
Keep up the great work 💪
Thank you so much I’m really glad you’re enjoying it ! Yes !! I love the fireball thane ! He’s so good for clearing units that have stacked minus to hit or anything with light armour ! Dwarfs are such a great army ! Thank you !
You forgot to talk about the Thunderes on the 2k list. Love the video. As a longbeard, having fought the war of vengeance against the elgi, i appreciate this run down on how the army now plays.
I didn’t even realise cheers mate! No problem at all we definitely play very similar but have to use different tech definitely
Dwarves are always going to be known as a gunline army, but they have some very useful, but expensive combat troops! I'll send this to my friend, who's just decided to build himself a bearded army and see if he picks up on some of the things you've said here 😄
Yeah the problem is with the low move you need the range projection , don’t get me wrong you can yeet a unit a turn but then it’s undefended out in the mid board , I’ve been to events with purely melee dwarves but it’s a hard day with some match ups haha
Excellent video! As a new dwarf player, I really appreciate the insights and list ideas. Thanks for making the video!
No problem at all thank you so much for watching :)
So glad to see you started your own channel! Keep up the great work
@@SSBBcore thank you so much !
Bit scraped right now. Just bought some more dwarves haha
Cheers again.
@@Spandau-Filet thank you so much !!! Really appreciate that !!
Effin amazing video. Massive help. New sub here mate
@@Spandau-Filet thanks so much !!
Excellent vintage terrain piece, aces 👌🏻
I wish they still did that era of terain !
My plan for my initial Dawi list is a battalion box, Miners box, cannon+organ gun box, and then the engineer box. planning to run them as an expeditionary force and upgrading them all to the tits. The "fun" is going to be the 2 units of 10 miners with steam drills and the rangers + copters getting nice and up in everyone's business. No idea if it will be good but to be honest I dont care xD It will look like a Dawi army but should give me a few more options than static gunline.
@@omittedflunky2963 nice that will be really fun to use ! Popping up behind and charging in the rear with the miners will be awesome !
@@Dawiafterdark Also bringing a miners cart so that my warriors can stand and shoot with blasting charges (but mostly because if it blows up and wipes out a huge chunk of my frontline I think it would be really funny)
Great video format dude!
@@SanFranSicko thank you !
Amazingly helpful! Would love to learn more about rank sizes and tactics.
Thank you ! Awesome I will add that to the list :)
An other great video from our High king Richy Alriksson!! 😁
Thank you so much !!
hi! i am a new dwarf player, and this is very useful and informative. thanks!
Thank you so much I hope it’s helped !
I forgot to ask Rich, what’s your 1000 point list that’s the most competitive? Money is not a factor. Cheers, Mark
@@Spandau-Filet ===
1k [997 pts]
Warhammer: The Old World, Dwarfen Mountain Holds, Royal Clan
===
++ Characters [493 pts] ++
Thane [344 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Battle Standard Bearer [Master Rune of Grungni + Rune of Battle + Rune of Courage]
- Shieldbearers
- Master Rune of Gromril
- Rune of Preservation
- Rune of the Furnace
Runesmith [149 pts]
- Hand weapon
- Great weapon
- Full plate armour
- Shield
- General
- 3x Rune of Spellbreaking
++ Core Units [303 pts] ++
17 Longbeards [303 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Great weapons
- Heavy armour
- Shields
- Drilled
- Elder (champion) [Rune of Passage]
- Standard bearer [Rune of Battle]
- Musician
++ Rare Units [201 pts] ++
11 Irondrakes [201 pts]
- Hand weapons
- Drakeguns
- Full plate armour
- Ironwarden (champion) [Trollhammer torpedo + Cinderblast bombs]
---
Created with "Old World Builder"
[old-world-builder.com]
I’d go something like this , stop all magic , heavy drake shooting and you can stop dragons with the thane
@@Dawiafterdark that’s awesome! Thank you very much mate. Legend!
@ not too much at 1k would be able to deal with that I don’t think
That was super insightful. Thank you! Can you make a video about drilled? I hesitate to use it but it seems so good.
Yeah no problem at all :) I can definitely get one done :)
Love this, and I just hope to remember it when it comes time to play!
One thing I would love some advice on however, alternative models to GW. I've been printing the Steelhill Dwarfs from Dakkadakka and came across so many different mini ranges and files for variety
Thank you ! So I use , highland minis , scribor minis and white angel miniature for mine , if you don’t have a printer check the description out as my freind has offfered a 15 percent off prints with the channel code if that helps :)
Great Video! Really like examples with models.
@@mikek2662 thank you so much :)
Another great video! :) You didnt say so I have too.......This video was "Absolutely crazy! LOVE IT. Looking forward to seeing your recommended veteran builds!!!
That comment is absolutely crazy 🫣😂 thank you very much !! I’ll get round to some spicy ones soon , but have to help the young beards out first ! :)
@@Dawiafterdark Of course :) Keep up the great work man!
@@noobiesnacks1636 thanks so much !!
KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA!
I don't play Old World (haven't played WHFB since 8th edition) but if I started again, I'd crack out all my dwarfs sitting in a box in a cupboard :D would need to rebase everything on 25mm. Great vids!
@@JohnnyTightIips thank you ! Nice to hear your thinking about playing ! Hope you get them out and get some games in with them ! KAZAD EI MENU!!
@@Dawiafterdark Played my first game today, 1k points vs empire, I had your shieldbearer thane (non bsb), fireball thane, 16 rangers, 10 ironbreakers and 11 hammerers and I got very lucky, only losing 4 dwarfs total but getting I think 1250 victory points vs my regular opponent, wiped his army plus general plus 3 banners, and we're STOKED to play more.
@@JohnnyTightIips yes !!! Get in mate ! Glorious to hear !! Glad you both had fun too ! As that’s the most important thing !
Great video. Thanks for the tips. Hope to see a deep dive into royal clans and ex force lists
Thank you very much ! That will be coming !
Great stuff - really helpful
@@mjhsinclair thank you very much !
Great video Richie, love the strategy part, great help to me as i suck at deployment. 😂
@@getorix1 thank you so much ! Hopefully it’s been some help !
@@Dawiafterdark definitely has, looking forward to the next one!
@@getorix1 thank you il catch you on the next one !
Awesome video as always
@@UKRESINPRINT thanks mate !
Great video, I've just started my dwarf army. Do you think grudge thrower would also fit in 1000 pts?
Thank you ! So as you can’t fit in a anvil really at those points I would surest one so you have some agency in the game , being able to tech out and touch your opponent really helps
Nice video! Thanks so much! Where'd you get that hill?
Thank you ! So it’s the old gw dwarf hold , should be able to pic it up on ebay I think :)
Thanks! I'll look around for it!
I love the idea of Fireball Thane, but why not give those great runes to an Engineer with BS 5 ?
@@fedfabiani the problem is the point allocation to make it the engineers don’t have enough points unfortunately
Hey, im just starting old world and found your video! One question i have is, can you have both sheild and great weapons on the warriors? Or do i decide one of them? Thx!
Hi ! So in grand army you can have both and choose , the in the journal army the royal clans you have to pick one to have all game so the warriors in the grand army and x force are much for versatile
very nice video ! i ll trully try your deploiement style because it is my biggest problem (even in 40k). I think i never try Stubborn before and i like how you choice to use it.
Hopping other example of list for royal clan and xpedition!
Highland miniatures are very very nice :). I print all my army from them STL ^^
Thank you ! Have a go with it you’ll be surprised how well it works as the units that pop stubborn survive and you keep the points so it’s a really good points denial tactic . And me ! Have you seen white angel miniatures ? I’m going to print some dwarfs from that range too
@@Dawiafterdark i look for "the white angel miniatures" -> there are some very good looking miniature! (doomseekers, king killer, axe machine for example). All the miniatures would be perfect for a slayers royal clan list :)
@@radoineta I know how nice are they ! Currently printing the gotrek and felix models to proxy as a thane on sheildbearers
@@Dawiafterdark i printed the shieldbearer from highland miniature and put the last edition of Grombrindal on it ;)
@@radoineta ohhh love it !!
How you can use Shield and Great Weapon on the Warriors?
@@f.guerra23 you pay for both and you can choose which your going to use in the combat hand weopon and shield or great weopons , very versatile unit
@@Dawiafterdark Thank you!
@@f.guerra23 also even if you do not use shields in combat, they improve your armour save against enemy missiles
Hey Richie great video! Quick Q: You only mention the role of the breath weapon on the gyro for skirmirshers, but the clattergun I assume is for weak chaff units of infantry?
@@ComandaKronikk thank you ! Yeah so for the clatter gun would just be pot shots at lightly armoured infantry or trying to make units with evade use it early , the point of the steam gun on skirmish units is you can usually position where you can hit most of the unit and it doesn’t suffer any negative modifiers to hit like ballistic skill shooting into them .
Great video!!!!!
Thanks so much !
I was wondering, as starting TOW with my old dwarf army, how can we deal with ethereal units? Ive seen really few things that give us magical attacks. Just the rune for the guns on the thane, the hammerers and the anvil can do magical attacks. Im I missing something? Green Knight is starting to drive me crazy.
So , any rune gives magical attacks we actually have the most access to magical attacks of any of the armies . You can give champions magical attacks with any rune , any rune on artillery gives magical and the fireball thanes :)
@@Dawiafterdark Thank you. Didnt know that.
Is there anyhow to give magical attacks to a whole units? I understand that banner runes doesnt give magical attacks tho.
Hi, where did you get the models from? The cannon looks great
@@user-qd7rp8yn6i hey ! So they are 3d prints , check out highland miniatures and white angel miniatures studios , in the description of my video there is a company called ukcustomprints that has them all stocked and if you use the code DAWIAFTERDARK you get 15 percent everything :)
Richy, your army looks rad as. Are there Scibor infantry mixed in?
Thanks so much ! Yeah so it’s a mix of highland and scribor but I’m adding some white angel minis in now aswell :)
@@Dawiafterdarksick! I'm eying up doing the same mix. Where can I find pics of your army on insta?
@ I haven’t made in insta yet mate , but I am at an event this weekend so will be doing a event rundown so il get loads of pics and post on here :)
@@Dawiafterdark sounds awesoms, I'll keep my eyes on ere!
Hey Dawi what do you do against enemy magic and spells with those two lists?
@@sebastiandominguez2601 so I did say that this was the cheapest way building up but if you wanted could add an anvil , but luckily most damage spells are fire which the irondrakes have a 5 up on are too , and illusion shouldn’t bother you too much as you won’t be charging with this list
@@Dawiafterdark thank you for your answer Dawi! So one can survive this game without magical defense?
I think the more competitive you want to play you will need to be able to stop some spells , but with the magic resist built in and the anvil only being a level three for dispelling you can’t dispell most of the time anyway , luckily most spells don’t do too much to us apart from pillar of fire
Great video mate!
The thane with shiedbearers is only unit strength 1? It does say in the rules though that it's actually 4 models, so why wouldn't it be 4?
@@BenGoodvachDraffin so it counts as four models for the amount of models in the unit , but it only counts as unit strength 1 as it’s an infantry model
As in it takes the space of four models and fills two spaces on the tank behind
@@Dawiafterdark Are you sureeee....that seems weird to me. Why wouldn't it count as 4 infantry models?
Hmm ok yeah the rule does say '...a model with shieldbearers hhas a split profile and follows the cavalry rule. In all other respects, this model is heavy infantry'
Seems like an oversight though
I think it could be argued for 4
Hi!
Why Grudge Thrower? Isn't it inferior to Cannon?
@@piotrtylkowski388 grudge thrower being ap 3 and d3 plus one damage is load better at dealing with monsters than the cannon
On top of the damage push through being higher, grudge throwers just need to see the target. Cannons still need to have LOS to the spot they are placing even with large target.
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah but a grudge thrower only got a 27% chance to hit while a cannon gets 67% chance to hit.
If you include an engineer grudge thrower only 33% chance to hit while a cannon gets 88% chance to hit.
Sure the cannon only AP2 but it does have AB2 and alot more likely to hit.
I've tried this deployment but without the hill I've found the the grudge throwers won't have LOS due to the wide lines so they will need to fire indirect. How do I get around that?
So if you fire at large targets you can see them over your units and large targets are what you want to hit with them :)
@@Dawiafterdark ah yes duh good point. I play against an alarming amount of Bretonnia players who run the Duke on peg which has clouded my brain as of late. Normally I run both on extreme opposite flanks for brets.
Brets have a super rough time against us to be honest , yeah 100 percent the tactic , just clipping the back of a wood aswell if you can haha
Great video! Love the practical examples! Without a hill where you put an organ gun in this set up? I don’t have two grudge throwers atm. I have 14 rangers and 10 iron drakes to make the gun line with iron breakers and longbeards behind waiting.
Do you ever use rangers in skirmish formation?
Not really mate as if they aren’t in one line they obscure themselves , and when you get charged you get less attacks , I prefer them in lines
@@Dawiafterdark Great mate!
I have tried to have one smaller unit of 8 to scout up the field to get some early kills/harass. Have worked good in some games.
But from now on i will try using them in open order instead.
Yeah try them in open order I’ve had Mich more success you can still scout in open which is good !
@@Dawiafterdark Small recap: Had a small 750p test game yesterday against nomadic waagh. 14 rangers in open order, 9 drakes, some warriors and a gyro.
After 6 rounds i had lost 1 drake and a single wound on my gyro. The greenskins had a bigboss on boar left on the table. And it was fleeing.
Great fun to try for me, not so much for my mate. Next time i will try Royal Clans with less shooting more combat.
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Thank you !
Solutions for massive dragons spam???
@@RubenSanchez-b2l tanky as shot heros to challenge them out while you have static combat res 7 units so you win combat , double outnumber them so hopefully they flee and if they roll bad and roll well run them down I’ve done that a fair few times now
@@Dawiafterdark the problem i saw is that, if you want to have at least a +5 in combat with double banner, etc to match a -5 in a dragon duel challenge, you have to resiste first charge, and have a lot of multiple charges later, if you do so, you dont expend enough points on range to try to kill big dragons or something, bad times to be a dwarf player in dragonhammer because is ease to have a charge by 2 dragons, or dragon + phoenix+eagle...
@@RubenSanchez-b2l if you have banner of hesitation they don’t get first charge :) as it’s an ability that procs from charging :) so personally from lots of experience we can’t kill triple save dragons with ranged attacks , but what we can do it table the rest of the army around the dragon and lock the dragon in combat , then with abit of luck beat it in combat , rune of smiting definitely helps , it’s a hard game initially multiple dragons . But most armies struggle it’s not just us :)
Surely first step is grow a beard?
@@adamsboringvids that’s the step when your thinking about playing them 🤣
@@Dawiafterdarkshould be ready in time for TOW 2.0 if I start now.
@@adamsboringvids you got this !!!
I got made to order stuff. Expet kings and slayers.
(Dragon company with comand; helga. Engemers .comand? )all metal and one even got DC paper baner.
I happy with them as i pla it 3rd army in future.
I sad i miss cards becose same sneke goblin send my local shop it "could"o order cards. Before like before pre order.. but it turns out he cold not and he even talko to represantive.
I was sad bacose that day i visit gw store.
At least i got dwarfs dice.
Glad you got most of it I can imagine they will do the cards again !