How to play Dwarfs in Warhammer: The Old World. Which are the best units?
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- Опубликовано: 12 окт 2024
- In this video, I’ll be discussing what I believe are the objectively best units in the Dwarf army and explaining why they stand out on the battlefield. From their strengths and roles in your strategy to how they can turn the tide of a game, I'll break down the key reasons these units are must-haves in any Dwarf force. Whether you're building a new army or refining your tactics, this analysis will help you get the most out of your Dwarfs in Warhammer: The Old World! #warhammer #theoldworld #dwarf #dwarfs
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On Sunday I floated the idea of starting TOW with my regular opp and you got me converting old minis I had into shieldbearers (belegar standing on balin's tomb) and i ordered 100 25mm bases to rebate all my skull pass dwarfs.
Richy you got your dwarf claws in me and I might take the plunge!
@@JohnnyTightIips yeaaassss!!!! Kazad aui mènu !!! This is great news ! Welcome to the clans !
Love this channel!
Dawi have been my Lore and book favorite faction forever! Back in the day, I couldn't afford a full army of dwarfs. Now with 3D printing, I have amassed a HUGE army, themed scenery, custom dice, and a mountain tapestry to hang behind the gaming table...
And haven’t played a game with them yet.
I've been running with my previous Tilean-themed ogre army while training up my buddies.
I like to think that my Dwarfs are drinking ale and sharpening axes... ruminating over past wrongs. They'll be on the field soon enough....🤨
Thank you so much !! Yes ! I look forward to hearing how your first games go with the Dawi !!
Ive got a game scheduled for my dwarfes next week at my LGC. My 5th game of TOW overall. Dont get a chance to play much because of "life" but ive really taken to TOW and dwarfs in particular. Love these videos and hearing about dwarfs and really appreicate the tips. Love the more chilled out vibe.
Sorry you don’t get to play much but I’m glad you’re enjoying the dwarfs ! And glad you like the vids :)
Great Analysis, Helped me understand dwarfs more and fight them better in war of beard:)
Hahaha the war of the beard never finished ! No grudge has been settled !
nice. I have just painted 20 warriors with full command and great weapons
Brilliant ! For the points and what they can do they are easily one of the best units in the book !
Great analysis ! Thank you for it. Up until 9th age I always played hammerers over iron breakers but with TOW I started to play IB over Hammerers systematically. Irondrakes are so good with troll hammer torpedo and cinder blast bombs ! They always perform very well in my games 👍
@@leb_340 no problem at all :) glad you enjoyed it :) I love them they always do great work ! I just wish breakers could be taken in core !
Rune of confusion if you have a deamonslayer or king in the unit (with a handweapon or greatweapon + master rune of swiftness) works good too
You know what I hadn’t actually considered that
Sick video mate. Really enjoyed this breakdown.
Thanks mate ! Appreciate it !
I love ironbrakers, I put a killy king or thane in with them have won everything they have come up against so far.
@@joshuabloor287 don’t get me wrong I love them , I just wish they were core I’d even be happy if they were more expensive but in core
I once had a block of 25 of them in a 5 game tournament buffing them with the anwil and they survived every game only loosing 9 models at the most😂😂
@Dawiafterdark that is a fair point. I agree with you about them being core. Thanks for the the videos, as I'm new to old world it's good to get some help how to use the dwafs.
Great video as always richy
Thanks bro ! 👌
Thanks for your new video. I agree with your opinion. Clan warriors are also good at dealing things out. I think it's a shame about the iron breakers because they are my favorite models. I'll try out a list of departments soon. This could greatly improve their damage output and win over combat results.
Thank you for watching ! I love breakers too my favourite unit is hammerers and I can just never fit them in 🥲
This video is perfectly timed. Got my first game with Dawi today.
Good luck let me know how you get on !
@@Dawiafterdark will do. Still making tweaks to the 1k list.
Well good luck I hope you really enjoy it !
Was a close match. The Dawi lost by 150 points to Beastman. (Was a practice game and not a shark tank.)
150 points is super close and beastmen are a very good army so well done !
Fire & Flee does not make you FBIGO(unless it was FAQ’d somewhere) you still have to rally in your turn. Still a great tactics though. I haven’t had much luck using it with Pistoliers as it’s bitten me in the ass a couple times 😂. Great video and very helpful, I’ve been trying to help some Dwarf players in my gaming group and since I don’t play Dwarfs this video has a ton of value, thank you very much.
Hey mate yeah you do have to rally after I always say bloody fibgo because you only use one dice for the flee 🤣🤣 no problem at all there’s a few vids on here that might be able to help them :)
@@Dawiafterdark I gave him your channel info, your videos are amazing. THank you for your content!
@@anthonyparente7858 no problem at all :) and thank you very much !!
Love your videos Rich.
@@JamesRutherford-c7x thanks so much mate !!
Really glad you like them mate :)
Such great videos
Thank you so much !
Awesome Video Richy! I absolutely love the gyro! They are SO Infuriating for the enemy !! :) GG man. Also agree on the 2 x 10 Irondrakes units with Torps... so kinda like two cannons in your army :) Can you elaborate on the "Pop your stubborn on the Irondrakes and pop through?" If you fall back on one of your own units you pop out the back?
@@noobiesnacks1636 they can win you a game just out of pure annoyance which is great hahah , I love the two units I’m trying to make one work atm but I miss you two torpedos and grenades
Yo so you have the units an inch apart of you use stubborn you fallback through the unit behind , thus saving the points and the unit would follow up into the unit behind :)
You’d need to pass a panic check on the unit but with high ld you should be fine
@@Dawiafterdark Oh ofc ! That is Brilliant. And the Unit behind = the beefy brick angry Great Weapon wielding Stunties! Love it
Nice rundown & from someone I know has played the army enough to probably be right :)
Hope to go back to my 8th ed days of watching a lot of games then showing up at a tournament once a year and getting a top 3... then not playing again til the year after & repeat :)
I've got a sweet(? Or maybe terrible) list I'm building that no one else seems to have run (at least no one on youtube or on bugmansbrewery).
I like to only run lead/metal gw dwarves though so I'm about £450 of ebay purchases (that will post to NZ) away from completing the list haha. I could probably save £300 by going for some resin... I think I just talked myself around...
I have played an ungodly amount of games now but still loving it to be honest which is great , I do love the dwarfs ! Ohhh amazing what’s the list ? I hope you do amazing when you get to your first tow event ! I think resin is definitely worth it if you can get the right stls !
Thanks for the video. I love the dwarves and as a new player it is really helpful to figure out how to make them work. @15:10 you mentioned that when the gyro's Fire & Flee they would Fall back in good order. I had thought that they would be fleeing and would not automatically rally so you would need to rally them next turn or they could continue fleeing. Did I miss something? Thanks again
@@Steve-bc5vf no problem at all ! Sorry I always say that with fire and flee thanks for picking it up it’s because you only move back one d6 rather than a normal flee so my brain just goes fbigo 🤣 but yes you do have to rally after but that shouldn’t be a problem with the dawi leadership !
Great video, my personal favourites are rangers. I put a runesmith and BSB with rune of hesitation in it. It worked really well, because people want to get rid of the rangers … but I might over committed xD.
Did I get this right: If my unit of irondrakes falls back and runs into the unit behind it, it just pops out on the other side?! Don’t even need to make a leadership test? That’s neat.
@@nonquisquan so you need to take a panic test for the unit behind but your dwarfs , you can’t fail panics hahah
Love the Channel! Does the Engineering Master Rune of Slaying do D3 wounds to anything or just to behemoths? I thought it may be another way (on a shooty thane) to try and hurt monstrous infantry/dragons. Thanks!
@@michaeldeforest9149 thank you so much ! Does d3 wounds to anything !!! Muahahaha
Nice intro buddy!
Cheers bro !
Hi mate, Thanks for your videos. I wanted to get some Highlands Miniatures dwarfs printed, but don't know what scale works best with alongside the GW minis. Do you get yours printed at 28mm or 32mm?
@@someoneextant so I got mine printed to 32 they are bigger than gw but look a hell of alot better ! Do you have a printer ? Also have you looked at white angel minis they look amazing too
Great video as always!
I have a doubt regarding ironbreakers. The main reason for not using them is that they can't deal enough damage, but you also say that dwarf units are mostly delivery elements for your heroes.
So, in that context, wouldn't it make sense to place a killy hero in a unit of ironbreakers so you have the best of both worlds?
I guess it's just a matter of priorities but my impression is that they could be pretty good competitively.
I'm curious to hear your thoughts.
For me with them it’s what do you do with your core points as you can’t spread the heros out too thin into those units , breakers are an amazing unit , but they take points away from stuff we need to compete annoyingly and then leave your core vulnerable , that’s just my thoughts
Damn you, Richy! I want to collect dwarves now! 😂❤
Do it !
I regularly play Dwarfs against a friend who has a Warriors of Chaos army and my main problem is that except for 1 unit, his entire list has swiftstride. Depending on who goes first, i only get 1 or maybe 2 rounds of shooting (at long range) before he's into me, and I'm finding it very difficult to win combats. He typically picks the combats due to his speed and my slowness, and that first turn against lances or flails often means most of my fighting rank is dead and can't even swing back.
@@JohnZastrow right mate so take two units of irondrakes on the front line , take master rune of hesitation on a tanky bsb in a combat unit behind them . They you get your stand and shoots from the drakes , kill some knights then the drakes pop stubborn through the combat unit . Then issue challenges with your heros in the units behind
@@Dawiafterdark gonna try it, thanks. I think I've been deploying poorly because I haven't set up the irondrakes directly in front of my infantry blocks like that. And Maybe I'll knock a few models out of my blocks to free up Rune points on the standards. seems to be the way to go
@@JohnZastrow in one of my previous videos I run through deployments and reasons why i deploy like that if you wanted to watch them :)
Good Video! What do you think of Royal Clan Warriors?
This video was a bit soft, felt softer than your usual content.
Keep making videos, really enjoying your stuff!
@@vincemattana I really don’t like them man , the fact you can’t change weapons means that are stuck in one roll , I think longbeards always win for core points in royal clans imo , haha what do you mean by soft mate ? 🤣 haha cheers mate I won’t be stopping any time soon :)
@@Dawiafterdark soft spoken I think, the audio is very low ❤
@@JohnnyTightIips ahhhh ok been having a nightmare with my audio I’ve got dji mics coming Thursday so should sort it out !
@@Dawiafterdark Good point, thanks! I mean soft in terms of the volume - I had to put my sound all the way up.
Bloody audio , annoyingly my voice is like naturally really reverby but got dji mics coming tomorrow so should sort it !
If you were gonna have a hammerers unit. What size unit would you go for? And would the MRoGrungni be a must?
@@wilhelmthonwicklund1544 I think if your gunna do it you go big and commit , 25 minimum , bab in there runesmith in there and yeet it up the board with the pony cart and anvil buffing it
And yes 100 percent
PS I do have one suggestion....You need to say " Thats absolutely Crazy at least once per post" :) Ty :) Dont think you said it once in the last few videos :(
Right , for you it will be in the next one 🤣🤣
@@Dawiafterdark 🤣
People do underestimate MR1 I play against dwarfs a decent amount and that -1 comes up multiple times a game
So good isn’t it
@@Dawiafterdark I’d say on average my toad fails 2-3 spells a game because of it against dwarfs which is bigger than people realize
How many torpedos come with the iron drakes, would be awesome if they come with 3+ so you can make mini mobile cannons.
So you can only have one per model but they do hit orettt well so the unit is basically a mini cannon which is great !
@@Dawiafterdarksorry I meant, How many champions can we create with torpedos from iron drakes / breaker box? A 4+1 torpedo champion is an annoying attack target, mobile, and can be moved to areas where there is no action for the opponent.
Interesting that you didn't rate Longbeards very high when you did the Heavy Infantry teir list with Close Order but now you love them. Has something changed your opinion or was there another reason?
So ed said I had to be objective in the ratings video , thinking about when you have to be taken in special rather than core and unbuffed, but these in royal clans buffed up with banners and a good hero in are amazing !
@Dawiafterdark hmm, I swear in the early part of the video, he said, rate them in the best way they can be taken. That may have been in one of the other teir videos he did, though.
I agree though, longbeards in core are great, maybe a little expensive, but still great.
@@Xanatosaus hahaha potentially but behind the scenes I had to be objective or I would have put a lot more dwarf stuff higher 🤣🤣 I think in core with the plus one str in the flow up and charge they are a much better choice than the rc warriors , I do still rate the normal warriors some of the best infantry in the game mind point for point
I think the only other way to make use of the standard rune of confusion is a unit of slayers with some daemon and/or dragon slayer in there. A daemon slayer with great weapon inscribed with a fury rune, 1 rune of speed, masterrune of quickness and a rune of wrath tattoo as well for 6 attacks s6 ap2 ini6 sounds nice. You can also hand out simply 1-3 runes of speed to dragon slayers to push them up to ini 5-7, several ones next to each other for the points of 1 daemon slayer but sadly they lack AP then (ok they still have killing blow) and you only have 1 masterrune of quickness so it probably will only work on the one unit with the smashy ini 6 dragon slayer but you can put Ungrim Ironfist with ini 5 just right next to him.
Really a pity and rather silly in fact that dwarf hand weapons lose the gromril weapon special rule when having runes on them to be honest. This rule in fact almost destroys all hand weapon runic weapon builds because you in fact always have to extra pay 15 pts just to get that 1 AP back + the other runes... simply not worth it at all. Either hand weapon only and going gromril or great weapon + runes. They really missed that that opportunity for more variance.
But sadly this is of course not competetive at all because the Slayer heroes are all too expensive for what they deliver and in linehammer probably not worth it at all, shooting linehammer is the dwarf way to go in this game.
In a normal rank and file game with lets say 5-7 model wide units this could even work because they would take care that the slayer unit also get to strike.
@@richardpagel6959 rune of speed can only be inscribed on handweapons
I’m working on a slayer list at the moment to try and get them to work . As I do love the slayers . My list didn’t do well into a skin wolf deathstar the other day so back to the drawing board on it , I 100 percent agree on the hand weopons losing gromril is rough !
@@Dawiafterdark Yeah, slayers have been my first and favourite dwarf unit back in warhammer edition 5 and I always had a unit of 20 with me. Mostly without heroes because the heroes were not worth it at all back then, only if you were running a complete slayercult army in 7th there were nice.
Slayers never where the best dwarf unit but always either under- or overestimated by the opponents and a lot of people simply struggled playing against this unbreakable block.
They held dozens of flanks alone on tournaments back then and thus have won me dozens of games like this.
Wish you well with going for a slayer list!
What about Slayers? I know they suck but is there a way to create a monster killer that survives..?🤷
@@Spandau-Filet so ,,,, I’m actually working on a slayer army to use at events right now so il keep you posted but short answer is I think we can !
Iron Draaaaaakes!
Hell yeah !!
Solid! Rock and stone, hard video 😅
@@curlybillbrocius25 🤣🤣 cheers mate haha
Ritchy what do you think of this strat to protect your bsb, and would it even work? You have a big unit with drilled and deploy it 5 wide, then put a King on shieldbearers in it, then put a bsb on foot in it and I believe they would have to be placed in the 2nd rank as there's no room for them in the front as he can't displace a command model, but you'll still get access to all his abilities. Then when you use drilled to redress you can go into a wider formation but elect not to move the bsb from the 2nd rank, making him untouchable.
So the only problem is as soon as your in combat you lose all the abilities he gives if your not in the front rank , how are you kitting your bsb out as you can make them ridiculously tanky , it definitely works untill you get into combat mind .
@@Dawiafterdark I could defo be wrong here but I think you only lose your abilities when you retire from declining a challenge, unless there's somewhere that says you have to be in the fighting rank to benefit from abilities. It's one of those that's bending the rules to the extreme but us dwarf players need all the help we can get!
@@MirelurkCakes so I’ve been involved in a discussion at an event about this , and it got ruled that as soon as you hit combat you cease to influence to fight but I will do some digging and see if you’ve just come up with a super play ! Let’s hope you have , by grimnir that would make runesmith bsbs viable
@@Dawiafterdark Bretonnia handmaidens have a similar rule where they can move out of the fighting rank and still confer all their benefits which might be an arguement for as well.
Il confer it with some TO’s and see what we can come up with :)
I recently got into old world and got my butt kicked quite a bit playing the Dawi which killed my motivation a bit. I felt part of it was our gunlines weren't as strong or everyone would just avoid getting into combat and drop me down with magic and deny the anvil of its buff.
I really like the faction, but I find the lack of movement really punishing, do you have any recommendations to kind of get me back into the dawi game?
Have you tried yeeting your units ? So stollas runes on the banners to get a 3 inch vangaurd on them before the game starts , then have them drilled so they can pop into marching collum then you can move three times a turn in marching collum , if you have a cart within 6 inch’s one unit can move 27inchs turn on and another could be up next to it on turn two if you get the double move spells off , it’s a gamble but we can be really speedy
Giving irondrakes the vangaurd banner catches people out aswell because you can get in range turn one if they deploy on the line :) as you can move and shoot with no penalty , if you put burlock in the irondrakes they don’t suffer long range penalties either
@Dawiafterdark honestly, never knew that you can yet them that far. Seems oddly reminiscent of Gimli saying you'll have to toss me to Aragorn 😂
@@Imperialguardftw it’s a trick that really catchs people out especially if your drilled and don’t start in marching collum , then switch into it in your turn
Nobody tosses a dwarf! Hahaha
More bangers🎉
Thank you !!!
I find units of ten Rangers in skirmish formation works fine. I just have two rows of five with tiny gaps between each one
It’s the back row being obscured which is annoying with that , and making sure your 6 inch’s away from each end just incase they just disappear if they are charged haha
@@Dawiafterdarkthe back row can shoot fine as you have tiny gaps between the front row, and each row is half a base size offset.
Also with the getting into combat when charged, if 3" gets them to behind the fighting rank are they safe?
So unfortunately as the rules are at the moment the second row is obscured so minus one to hit , but I heard on the grape vine that might be changing :) it’s 6 inches luckily as they can travel double move to snap in :)
But I know if I was doing it I’d be really annoying with myself my line went 7 inch’s long haha
@@Dawiafterdarkah the front row give the enemy cover from the second, lol I hadn't considered that.
Where does the double move come from? I can't see reference to that, cheers
4:20 how aboit wood elfs? Or thay will just run away to the side?
So wood elves are always a really hard game for us , and you have to be hyper agressive so I would yeet and get as close as possible to them as they don’t play fair gaha
Do you have an army list including all of your favorite units here that you'd be willing to share?
Every unit can the the stromni redbread rune the comand rangw would be the leadership so still 9
In grand army only the hammeres can take it but in the royal clan every unit can the it
Dont thinks its a bad pick if you want 2 or 3 big bricks with big combat res
So units don’t have a command range only heros do so only bsbs can take it which is super annoying
@@Dawiafterdark i thought comandrange is leadership but if only heros then youre right the rune isnt good
You can't march in Vanguard move, I'm afraid.
@@tranchienbinh you move 3 inches in vangaurd , then in actual move you march
@@tranchienbinh you vangaurd 3 inches , march 12 with the cart , then strike the anvil moving another 12 , so 27 inches turn one :)
@@Dawiafterdark Thanks, now I know I will buy a cart then!
can gyrocopters got killed by archers?
@@H4b0s yeah they can but they are wounding them on 5s or 6s depending on the gyro
13:20 and i think is one magick item that turr n off all fly
. Not remember what faction. I think bretonians?
The falcon horn for brets :) it’s such a strong magic item !
@@Dawiafterdark now i relize its like also say to all dragons. No you are not muving much ;]
@@jacawandersmok9043 it’s one of the many things that’s helping brets be one of , if not the strongest army in the game right now :)
The best dwarfs are the ones with big hats! 🔥
Woahh that’s a grudging
Good video, but really no reason to read aloud every single stat and special rule they have. Most viewers will have at least some knowledge of the dwarfes, and otherwise we can see it on the screen :)
@@AlexanderWith it was more for if people are listening to it rather than watching it :)
Not to mention the soothing voice…
I listen to it when I go to sleep so reading them out loud is of major help.