Short and Very helpful.Problem sorted.I always thought is my suspension or rear engine mount but I changed recently all of them.You confirmed my suspicion.Thank you
Right radio thank you very much for doing this I was hunting for what our noise was on our Kia Sorento when you move the flywheel up and down and you can hear that knocking sound that is what is now happening to our Kia Sorento we also found that in 4th and 5th there is a vibration which comes through the gearbox and engine which you can feel through the car the car this morning is in the garage we hope that it won't cost as too much to have this replaced but thank you for your video as it clearly shows exactly what is happening
Great video to understand that noise we hear. I thought it was a rod knock at first. Once you get under the car its really easy to hear where its coming from. Mine goes away after warmed up. Probably a loaded question but any idea of how long these things last after they start rattling?
It’s a matter of what you’re prepared to put up with. Feedback gets progressively worse until the car becomes eventually undriveable either from vibration and/or poor gear selection. (Quick answer) I’ve seen some last for 12 months However they can become so bad the flywheel has to be cut apart to remove it as the top plate moves (jams) and covers the flywheel bolt heads. Short answer - just replace the thing asap
Just had to scrap my car cos of this. 232,781 Miles, 3 clutches, 3 dual mass flywheels, and the LUK Kit just came apart, destroyed the gearbox. New flywheel £450, New Clutch Kit £400, £600 in labor, £1500 repair on a car that has more value in the fuel tank than it does the rest of it. RIP Kelly you was a monster why you lasted baby! Dont ignore Dual Mass failure symptoms folks at least not like it did, it will get very very expensive very very fast.
Great! A quick simple discription of how to check it! Mine on vectra c wobbles a little in and out but does still spring back when turned without a sudden stop either way so I'm hoping it's OK for now?
good clear video thanks .... I have one that I am not sure about - the rotation feels rubbery and resitive/dampened but it doesnt ping back to where I start from? I thought they were supposed to return to the start position of a forced rotation - mine moves 15mm ish in either direction...
Hello mate... So just spent a fortune (to me) on an old P2 Volvo V70 2.4d and on start up there's a single bang/clunk on firing up the Engine... Some vibration on idle, but as soon as she's driving the gear changes are smooth and no issue... Could this be the DMF?? 😢😢
Many thanks, really clearly explained, confirms for me that mine's on its way out. Should the Flywheel just unbolt or should I buy a Puller? (Focus 1.8TDCi)
Question as I'm sick of spending on this car i have . I have a rattle u til clutch pedal is depressed no slip and starting ok . How long can it hold out until it becomes undriveable ?
@@bradauto smashing that will do time to get the next car in place . As much as I have tried to maintain and keep the old girl going it's got to the point now where a new flywheel would make it financially not worth it . Cracking channel fella and thanks for the reply
What do you think, input shaft bearing or DMF. When the car is cold i cant hear the sound it gets lauder the warmer the car gets or if i beat on it. If i beat on it i can hear it with glutch down as well but not as much. Sound like a scoring sound/grinding sound. the sound stops when i press down the clutch and comes back with the glutch up. Also hear the sound when im driving, it gets even lauder on some gears or if i motor brake or drive slow. DMF or input shaft sound from the gearbox? its a manual. My car dosent have a pilot bearing.
DMF rattle at 1:54 is unfortunately a common fault for my car. Even when replaced with a new OEM DMF they tend to start rattling again after not much time. Would a dampened clutch help increase the lifespan of a new DMF, and prevent this rattle from happening again?
@@bradauto thank you for your reply. Lexus IS250 6mt 06. Most people on forums also opt for SMF+dampened clutch like you said. I’ve yet to see if anyone went oem DMF+dampened clutch however. My main worry is if SMF will damage the transmission more than the DMF
@@18837ven I can only speak from experience and say that there has never been any issue arising from a conversion- I have done several taxis which do hard miles and no problems
@@bradautojust after buying a 2009 vw golf 2lt tdi, was on when I test drive it, left a deposit on the car collected it 2 weeks later and clutch was juttering, seller obviously drive the sh1t out of it, probably burning rubber between us leaving a deposit and picking up the car.
I have an Astra twintop 2008 1.8 petrol. the car won't go into gear. the gear lever is very stiff. When engine is on in neutral there's a noise coming from the gearbox, when I press the clutch down it goes away. A mechanic said there is a worn out bearing in the centre of dual mass flywheel. Is that a part of the clutch kit? After dropping the gearbox he says I need clutch kit and a gearbox both.
Hello, my car shakes when I take off in first gear, there is no rattle or vibration when idling This happens only when car is hot, on cold engine clutch is perfect
I’m worried my DMF is busted on my Peugeot Partner. When I’m accelerating from first gear it’s starting to hop unless I put some extra revs. Do you think it can be the issue?
Very hard to say from that description - if it’s while slipping the clutch it may be clutch judder, which is more a clutch issue than flywheel, if it’s with clutch disengaged it could be a driveshaft or even engine mount worn. Get it looked at for diagnosis by a pro
@@bradauto I wanna show you the video of the insignia weird noise. But I dunno how. I tried to go two different mechanics shop. They don’t know the reason😑
The comparison between the old and the new was good to see. Thank you👍🏻
Thanks for this upload, gives a better understanding on what's potentially going wrong with the flywheel on mine and what's producing the noise👍
Short and Very helpful.Problem sorted.I always thought is my suspension or rear engine mount but I changed recently all of them.You confirmed my suspicion.Thank you
Very well explained...
Right radio thank you very much for doing this I was hunting for what our noise was on our Kia Sorento when you move the flywheel up and down and you can hear that knocking sound that is what is now happening to our Kia Sorento we also found that in 4th and 5th there is a vibration which comes through the gearbox and engine which you can feel through the car the car this morning is in the garage we hope that it won't cost as too much to have this replaced but thank you for your video as it clearly shows exactly what is happening
Thanks for that just checking mine and wondered about the backlash
You have put my mind at rest !
Great explanation and video. Thanks again 👍
Thank you for this video, much appreciated!
Great video to understand that noise we hear. I thought it was a rod knock at first. Once you get under the car its really easy to hear where its coming from. Mine goes away after warmed up. Probably a loaded question but any idea of how long these things last after they start rattling?
It’s a matter of what you’re prepared to put up with. Feedback gets progressively worse until the car becomes eventually undriveable either from vibration and/or poor gear selection.
(Quick answer) I’ve seen some last for 12 months
However they can become so bad the flywheel has to be cut apart to remove it as the top plate moves (jams) and covers the flywheel bolt heads.
Short answer - just replace the thing asap
@@bradauto I hear ya. Thanks for the reply.
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Just had to scrap my car cos of this. 232,781 Miles, 3 clutches, 3 dual mass flywheels, and the LUK Kit just came apart, destroyed the gearbox. New flywheel £450, New Clutch Kit £400, £600 in labor, £1500 repair on a car that has more value in the fuel tank than it does the rest of it.
RIP Kelly you was a monster why you lasted baby! Dont ignore Dual Mass failure symptoms folks at least not like it did, it will get very very expensive very very fast.
Rip(ieces ) Kelly 🙏🏻
Great! A quick simple discription of how to check it! Mine on vectra c wobbles a little in and out but does still spring back when turned without a sudden stop either way so I'm hoping it's OK for now?
Sounds ok. Also any feed back from normal driving - clutch judder or early bite is a sign 🙏🏻
nice and easy to understand! Great video!
I have a 2.0 Audi A4 TDI, auto, having nosies when braking that people are saying is the fly wheel, would this make the noise while braking though?
I had a shudder when changing gears. Blamed it on the clutches. Then the flywheel completely let go.
good clear video thanks .... I have one that I am not sure about - the rotation feels rubbery and resitive/dampened but it doesnt ping back to where I start from? I thought they were supposed to return to the start position of a forced rotation - mine moves 15mm ish in either direction...
Not necessarily mate, sounds ok to me
Hello mate...
So just spent a fortune (to me) on an old P2 Volvo V70 2.4d and on start up there's a single bang/clunk on firing up the Engine... Some vibration on idle, but as soon as she's driving the gear changes are smooth and no issue...
Could this be the DMF?? 😢😢
Possibly - if In doubt it will eventually develop to be really obvious
Many thanks, really clearly explained, confirms for me that mine's on its way out. Should the Flywheel just unbolt or should I buy a Puller? (Focus 1.8TDCi)
No worries. It will just unbolt 🙏🏻
Question as I'm sick of spending on this car i have . I have a rattle u til clutch pedal is depressed no slip and starting ok . How long can it hold out until it becomes undriveable ?
It depends on what mileage and type of driving you do. Typically though 6 months would be average
@@bradauto smashing that will do time to get the next car in place . As much as I have tried to maintain and keep the old girl going it's got to the point now where a new flywheel would make it financially not worth it . Cracking channel fella and thanks for the reply
What do you think, input shaft bearing or DMF. When the car is cold i cant hear the sound it gets lauder the warmer the car gets or if i beat on it. If i beat on it i can hear it with glutch down as well but not as much. Sound like a scoring sound/grinding sound. the sound stops when i press down the clutch and comes back with the glutch up. Also hear the sound when im driving, it gets even lauder on some gears or if i motor brake or drive slow. DMF or input shaft sound from the gearbox? its a manual. My car dosent have a pilot bearing.
Possibly the thrust bearing (clutch release bearing) whatever happens that gearbox has to come out
DMF rattle at 1:54 is unfortunately a common fault for my car. Even when replaced with a new OEM DMF they tend to start rattling again after not much time.
Would a dampened clutch help increase the lifespan of a new DMF, and prevent this rattle from happening again?
What car is it? There is a solid flywheel conversion available for most. I’ve fitted lots of them with no problems.
@@bradauto thank you for your reply. Lexus IS250 6mt 06. Most people on forums also opt for SMF+dampened clutch like you said. I’ve yet to see if anyone went oem DMF+dampened clutch however. My main worry is if SMF will damage the transmission more than the DMF
@@18837ven I can only speak from experience and say that there has never been any issue arising from a conversion- I have done several taxis which do hard miles and no problems
@@bradauto awesome, thanks for your insight!
@@bradautojust after buying a 2009 vw golf 2lt tdi, was on when I test drive it, left a deposit on the car collected it 2 weeks later and clutch was juttering, seller obviously drive the sh1t out of it, probably burning rubber between us leaving a deposit and picking up the car.
I have an Astra twintop 2008 1.8 petrol. the car won't go into gear. the gear lever is very stiff. When engine is on in neutral there's a noise coming from the gearbox, when I press the clutch down it goes away. A mechanic said there is a worn out bearing in the centre of dual mass flywheel. Is that a part of the clutch kit? After dropping the gearbox he says I need clutch kit and a gearbox both.
Yes sounds feasible. you buy the flywheel and clutch together.
If only it was that easy. Unfortunately the gearbox has to come out to do that check and that’s a huge amount of work with using special equipment.
Yep. This channel is for people who know what they’re doing
some new units have 27 deg free movement
Hello, my car shakes when I take off in first gear, there is no rattle or vibration when idling
This happens only when car is hot, on cold engine clutch is perfect
It’s very likely gonna need a clutch and possibly flywheel
What’s the crack with the missing finger spring on the old and the new clutch?? WTF!!
😄it’s built like that - not a fault
Just look really strange 😊 not what you expect to see when looking for a noise fault lol
@@TheCrusader2009 😂
I’m worried my DMF is busted on my Peugeot Partner.
When I’m accelerating from first gear it’s starting to hop unless I put some extra revs.
Do you think it can be the issue?
Very hard to say from that description - if it’s while slipping the clutch it may be clutch judder, which is more a clutch issue than flywheel, if it’s with clutch disengaged it could be a driveshaft or even engine mount worn. Get it looked at for diagnosis by a pro
@@bradauto Thanks! It doesn't make any weird noises with the clutch engaged/disengaged, maybe I'll open it up and change it.
My insignia might have a same problem. I just check another RUclipsr’s video have a same weird noise as my car. I dunno what to do now. #Help
Get the advice of a professional- one you can trust. Better yet get as many opinions as you can.
@@bradauto I wanna show you the video of the insignia weird noise. But I dunno how. I tried to go two different mechanics shop. They don’t know the reason😑
Would damaged dmf bearings cause a rough idle? Sounds a lot like a misfire on an E90 330D, M57 Engine.
It can affect idle yes. Idle speed will seem erratic and can be mistaken for a misfire
@@bradauto My revs stay the same but the "misfire" noise stops when I press in the clutch, so feel its the dmf
@@AJR-gg yes mate, get that gearbox out
Hi my car is vibrating only when engine is hot can that be dmf when cold no vibration thanks
Yes, very likely
@@bradauto ok thankyou
@@bradauto should vibration stop when i put clutch down as mine makes no differece
@@abdulbeany1894 probably not, the flywheel is off centre causing vibration
@@bradauto so will i need flywheel cluch and throw out bearing my car is audi a4 b7 2.0 tdi shall i go smf or stay dmf thanks
Quick and easy if you just look past, you have to remove the gearbox first 😂
Yes, there is that 😅
beards too long,need hairnet, Elf n safety innit!, Nice vid
I’ll get the make up department on it, cheers
So is a single mass conversion worth it
I’ve fitted loads of them without complaint