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VW Audi Rattling Noise From Transmission Area
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2020
- Have you a loud rattle noise and possibly a heavy vibration in your Volkswagen, Audi or Skoda?
Sounds like a can of marbles that can get better when revving or accelerating?
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Audio from multiple angles was a good idea! Nice to see that they rattle just as much in Australia as they do in North America! =)
Good to see ya again mate :)
VW's rattle the world over LOL helps keep us all busy 🤣🤣
They rattle everywhere, in EU too
I have a concern. I just replaced my clutch with a stage 1 kit and flywheel thats 9lbs as soon as I turned the car over I her and chatter/rattle noise. Not loud but it was there. I had the car still lifted when I put in gear in 1st it didn't made noise but all other after made the noise and was pretty loud. Is this noise because I replace the dual mass flywheel or what could it be. Keep in mind all gears go in and engages
@@Je_lunaIt could be due to single mass fywheel. They do rattle after engaging
@@krunoslavnegulic9939 thanks. But yeah I started making some research and I'm pretty sure it is
very nice!! thanks so much!! have been hearing the noise in my 2009 vw jetta tdi, multiple mechanics told me i needed a new transmission!! glad i kept researching the issue and finally came across your video!!
Thank you. I am getting something very similar on my 2012 Audi RS3. I can get a vibration in the car also sometimes on deceleration when going slowly. The rattling sounds is way more prominent and noticeable when the car is cold too
This is the EXACT noise I have on my Scirocco 2.0 TDI DSG and ALL the symptoms you describe are exactly that! Time to ring my mechanic!
Great video 👍 I have the exact same problem on my VW Golf Variant MK5. I Will order the flywheel from Autodoc ( cheapest i found) and soon replace it myself. It dont look to hard to do, only time consuming. I think i Will make a video of it as well and post here on youtube. Thanks for all info, this was very helpful 👍
Hi from Tipperary . I got a caddy 1.9tdi lockdown project Got new rad and thermostat and cleaned heater core so didn't run the van and started it today and I have that noise out of nowhere don't think it has that duel mass fly wheel head is melted 👍👍 thanks from the video s
I've seen multiple automatics that with a broken flexplate sounds pretty similar.
Spot on just what my amarock is doing!! Very helpful!
Brilliant - this just started happening today to my '06 Jetta TDI .
Sounds like the dual mass flywheel falling apart. They are also on mk4's with dsg or manual transmissions. On the manual mk4's you can replace it with a solid flywheel.
Pretty sure Mk4 never had DSG transmission, just conventional automatic with torque converter and no DMF
@@dopiaza2006 New beetles with the BEW TDI had the DSG(or 5spd manual) I also think some audi tt's had the dsg.
Well done mate,
I had no idea they had a DMF! What a weird industry we are in!
Yep we sure are buddy, lots of 🤔🤔🤔🤨 moments trying to figure it all out 😂😂
I have this sound just when i drive in gear 2 ,or when i drive with gear 2 on offroad roads.
One major symptom my DMF has is excessive vibration when driving at low RPM which disappears at higher vehicle speed
So what could be the problem if it's a manual transmission?
@@yakekaelvis48 engine mounts maybe, how's the clutch?
I have same noise but when its could, and when i put on P ore N.
But when i change to D ore R so i dont here any noise.
Can any one help me if is it same problem ore ?
Sounds like myn on cold startup but goes away when warm, changes thru the gears perfectly but abit jolly on takeoff
Excellent explanation and presentation - do have a question - I have a car which when you turn it off sounds like a big rattle then clunk - and a worn Dual mass sounds does spring to mind but mine is about 6months old - however when you have to ride the clutch - hill start or engine control/ manoeuvre parking - It had a burnt egg smell? Any ideas would be appreciated - it clunks and rattles especially when turning of the engine🙏🙏👍👍
If the engibe itself is okay, no oil etc and the noise is on the right as your are looking im thinking clutch/ flywheel separation
I was just quoted 1000 euros including parts and labor. 2008 Passat 2.0tdi DSG.
Add another 500e if done at VW.
If you want to DIY the parts can be found at around 400e (prob bit more) but its a big job as the gearbox must come off the car.
Spot on !! Skoda superb same issue and same solution 👍🙂
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Yes right and its also shaking a LOT noise and shaking the whole car is sick, thnxs
Good stuff Gerard, still a lot of debate on like for like or solid, I think on lower hp, solid is ok and higher hp with say a six speed box the dmf is the way to go, never replaced one on a dsg box, thanks again Gerard:):)
On manual transmissions I have done many solid flywheel conversions, the DMF serves it's purpose well but in all those cases the cost was just too much for the customer in comparison to solid.
These DSG's have to be DMF though with the design, solid options are not applicable in repair.
Thanks for stopping in Pat, I hope you are keeping well over there 👍👍
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage We are all fine thanks Gerard, but numbers are rising each day, will just have to wait and see what happens, a weird year, mind yourselves a chara👍🙏😷
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage great video. Maybe silly question but need to ask, is it just normal DMF ie LUK suitable for Manual or auto ?
Hi there
Very helpful explanation 👍
Can you please tell me if this symptoms can be from bad injectors,
Because i have the same problem with mine and different people saying different things?
I would really appreciate any comments
Thank you Sir!
That was very informative!
My car is octavia 1,4tsi dsg7 2011
I have that nose in cold mornings, but after warm up, it disappears...
Could this problem with dmfw also effect the work of my transmission,?
Because I get some sort of vibrations on low rpm when increasing speed from 1st to 2nd , from 2nd to 3rd gear. And that happens only when the gearbox gets fully warmed... SOUNDS STRANGE when cold there is noise but when it gets warm 95 degrees c transmission starts to act wierdly ... there are no those symptoms when it is cold....
Thank you
P.s. we have replaced clutch, spark plugs, ignition coils, motor oil, but it did not help...
Exact rattle, noise,is on my Vw touran 1.9tdi manual transmission,,,do I have to replace it as soon as possible ? or it can go for another few thousand miles,,what do you suggest,
I would like to know too as I have exact same car VW Touran 1.9tdi manual transmission that has just come up with the same sound few days ago.
@@marcelveli I hope you had explored replacement of the DMF on your tranmission. It could hold for months or years... but it may fail without warning, with bad consequences to removing the flywheel, or worse, cause a failure inside the transmission or engine. I had a failing manual DMF cause the transmission to fail on my first mk4 TDI, when I was naive and ignorant of the consequences. Had a later one with the rattling DMF that I ignored for 50k km (still naive, was told it had a rattle prone single mass flywheel installed by the seller). That one was difficult to remove because that dual-mass flywheel failed twisted, and took extra hours to remove the 6 bolts that secure it to the crankshaft. Best to get the flywheel and clutch replaced as a unit, and the other repair parts "while you are in there". It's costly in time, and adequate tools to support the engine / provide access to remove the transmission, whether you do it with an extra pair of hands, or if you have a trusted mechanic do the work.
Ive been trying to figure out that noise for way to long now lmfao thank you.
Gerard I must admit, on first listen I diagnosed a DMF issue but then when you mentioned what you were working on, a VW/Audi with a DSG gearbox....but the noise was classic DMF...it didn't make sense. Hence all those 'knowledgable' comments about DSG's don't have DMF's etc...Thanks for sharing..BTW my LT35 SDI...built in the last millennium requires a DMF....If your ever on holiday in Scotland........
Cheers Malcolm, I make sure to bring my tool kit if I am swinging past :)
How long can you drive with broken DSG DMF? Also, can a broken DMF induce a P0491 Secondary Air Injection system insufficient airflow error.
100% it was my dual mass flywheel on jetta 5 1.9 tdi bxe manual engine.
Hey my question is , is ok to drive it like that? May have that noise, but it’s located at the left side of the engine. Please help me .
My 2011 Jetta TDI DSG makes this noise , it has done the rough start once, I've been confused about it for 2 or 3 months , I do have a car appointment at a well known VW and Audi mechanic shop August 16th
makes the noise when it's cold and started , but goes away later on
Did you found the problem?
@@TheSuper7777777 yes , took it to a well known VW and Audi shop, My AC compressor is going out
amazing video nice editing clear vocal (y)
Excellent audio! Thank you!!!!
I have an Audi A4 b7 TDI automatic and am getting the same exact noise should I tell my garage that's the part I need and that I know about this problem now ?
I have this exact symptom on my Volkswagen Passat B6 2009 DSG 2.0L TDI
I have just had the clutch pack replaced, with a brand new genuine Volkswagen part as the clutch was previously making a horrible grinding noise and banging into gears. But this noise here is still happening, and it also when idling in traffic in D1 gear, will judder as you have shown, but it will also flick on the dashboard from D1 to D, randomly? Any ideas what that could be?
My 5 speed man golf v sdi 2.0 has a metallic rattle when changing gears. Not sure if clutch, flywheel or both. Also when going into 2nd from 1st sometimes it grinds a little (I replaced some bushings at the accessible top of the gear handle and readjusted the gear selector bowden cable ties but little effect)
Thanks for these explanation, may i ask you i just bought passat R36 2008 when the car shift for the 6 gear it have like that hard shift some times , what is the issue? I will be grateful 🌹
I had that sound and i changed the engine mount near the transmission side and all went away haha I think i cheated on the problem seeing your video
I just swapped my DMF to a single conversion. I still have a similar noise. Don’t know what it is.
Rattling good info Gerard
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Cheers Paul 😂😂😂
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage are you in uk ? would love to bring my car to you :)
Hi live in Scotland and have vw passat 2016 DSG gear box 2 litter engine. Have a same problem. I have done 125000 miles. And had no idea what's wrong butt very good diagnose. Thankyou for your help.only 1 question that how long I have before changing the mass flywheel.?
What would be the replacement part number for Volkswagen routan
Wow very nice info .would you ever go to a single mass on a standard 2006 tdi.thank you
Mine is goin in the shop Friday, i have vw touran 2.0 tdi with dsg automatic. Luckily i still have warranty on the car
Nice informative video. Gotta admit, I had no idea VW DSG's had a DMF
Thanks very much, no shame in not knowing, plenty to learn for us all, I was more than surprised when I first found out about them too :)
@@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage do the manual ones have it?
DMF is a common problem and not too hard to repair. But the part is pretty expensive. DSG transmission if taken care of Last for a lot of miles or K.
I had it on my Passat dsg. I reset the idle from 850 to 910rpm with vag com and it went away. Funny thing is it drove much better. The dsg was a lot smoother.
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I have the same noise on my skoda octavia 2011 dsg. Its pretty iritating, when i increase the rpms it disapears,but under 900rpm it comes back.
How did you reset the rpms? Any tutorials i could do by myself?
Greetings
@@leonardocapriodi1130 I bought VCDS and a laptop. I then just played around with it until i found the tickover setting. You can put any number you want in it so i started at 1000rpm and slowly brought it down until the rattle came back then raised it slightly till it went again.
@@glyflex tnx for the quick reply 🤩 how is it today.. No more noise?
@@leonardocapriodi1130 the noise went away and didn't return while i had the car. I think the dual mass fly wheel is made of two discs of metal laid over the top of each other with springs attaching one to the other. Over time the springs and their seats ware and this creates that sort of chatter/rattle. by bringing up the RPM the engine runs smoother putting a continuos load through the plates/springs removing the noise. I might be wrong but it has worked for me.
is it dangerous to drive with this problem?
I had this problem replaced the flywheel and after 3 months it came back what could it be
Brilliant man
Same noise on fabia 1.2 i was very confused for some days. It disappeared while pressing the clutch padel
Similar noise while in park or neutral as soon as you put it in d or r it goes away but only rattles when cold
Does fly wheel damage affects clutch system in dsg gearbox? Is it. Compulsive to change clutch system along with flywheel
Hey brother
I have a rattling sound only steering to left and the oil pressure engine off light comes up. Plus if i go for quick high rev speed up - i get a yellow notification of engine speed max 4000 rpm with a yellow epc light.
Old news. It's a common thing since introduced in 2005.5 on the TDI. Manuals have had this issue since the mark 4 debut in 98 with the New beetle. The DSG DMF can explode destroying the transaxle.
I'm trying to get a mk7 golf but they aren't very abundant where I live. I found one today with 60,000 km and it's in great shape but the car sounds like this one minus the sound from the transmission that you mention in this video. My question is is this sound normal? To me it sounds like a Diesel engine but it bothers me since this is a TSI. I've asked around and some people say it's just the tensioner and timing belt that need changing, but it seems to me it is too early for such a repair.
Can this noise happen also in a SMF Single Flywheel?
Had a 2006 A4 Audi, I think it was a B6 engine, which had exactly the same noise but it was intermittent, every time I'd take it to Audi it wouldn't make the noise, so they were absolutely no help, it then started to burn a lot of oil and found out these engines are prone to the oil pump failing, so ended up getting rid of the car and never to buy an Audi again, worst aftercare of any manufacturer.
Excellent video I have the start of this but its not that loud on mine but at least I know to shift it before it gets as bad as this and did I mention this is a good video very clear and instructive! Thanks
Thank you 🙏
I have a similar problem to my vw bora pd130, making a similar noise, would that affect mine on starting, spluttering and then stall? Within 2 seconds?
my one same noise for 7 monts but fron 2 weeks stop no noise again.... is coming back?
Have 2013 caddy 1.6tdi and I have that same noise.. but I have a single mass flywheel so this just raises more questions about my problem Lol
Can this noise be present only when driving. Mine sounds similar but only when driving. Not at idle.
Any help I live in New York I just purchased the 2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI and it's right around the 30-day lemon law and had to have the car go back to the dealer for a different issue and mentioned the noise to them and told them I thought it might have been a heat shield probably something common but can they look at it and never mentioned anything about it, I have this on text message should I seek legal action towards him
Hi my audi ar 2.0 tdi is making noise and vibrating at idle only when engine is hot when cold no noise or vibration is that dmf thanks and its 6 speed manual
My passat 2.0 tdi from 2007 has this sound however extremely loud. it's a manual 6 gear transmission, got the car for free today so just wondering.
Is it possible to get DMS failure on brand new car? I just bought a 1.5L TFSI AUDI A3 with 6 gears manual transmission and driving slow at low gears with windshields down I can clearly hear rattling sounds like you demonstration at 1:00. I’m also getting “kangaroo effect” … are these two symptoms (rattling sound and kangarooing) related? Should I ask for DMS replacement ?
Hi mate I'm getting a similar noise from around the gearbox area even after replacing the DMF. Any suggestions?
Would there be vibrations at certain rpms Accelerating in an automatic? I have a DSG 2013 Golf tdi, thanks!
I've got an Audi A4 B7 2.0tdi 170 making a noise like this. On occasions when starting it, the noise doesn't appear but most times it does. Recently the oil pressure light has came on. Hex for oil drive gear has been fixed already. Sound like someone has dropped a spanner in the engine😬 any help is welcome!
Great video. Do you have a way I can send you the noise that my Volkswagen polo GTI 2006 is making on start up. It sounds very similar to what yours in the video is doing.
Mechanic said it was a needing a whole new transmission n I don't believe it does. Just looking for a little help loo
DMF is dead.
I got this problem also not too long ago..
I had to replace the clutch as well!
Just bought a 2009 Passat 1.4 TSi with DSG. It has this noise at idle. It's not very loud just yet. (126K miles)
Got it booked in for a checkup next Friday.
what was the problem and have they solved it ?
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Bad bearings in the Gearbox. Had to have it rebuilt.
I've got a skoda octavia 1.6tdi mk3 just started to make this ticking noise at idle ... how long can it go for like this??????
Does a 2001 Wolfsburg 1.8t 5speed have a dual mass fly wheel I’m having the same sounds
Top vid thanks Yorkshire UK
Very nice information!
Thank you so very much for this video!!!!
Cheers Ron
mine is making a very similar noise. it usually only happens or at least is noticeable at startup but it's getting louder and louder. 06 Jetta TDI manual. is this part present on a manual transmission? if not, any other ideas what it could be?
Hi been getting some tinky clicky noices from my DSG gear box when in 1st 2nd gear. Comes and goes. Started few days ago. Any idea's? Audi tts mk2 8j 2009
There are a few flywheels which one out off these 2 is the right one or are they both the same
I have a similar sound on a 2011 tiguan tdi, my mechanic has said its most likely the "torque converter" is this the same thing but they have used a different term for it? Im from Australia, if its not the same thing, would it also give similar symptons to a bad dmf?
I have golf mk5 2.0 gt tdi 2006 manual.
Even when i press clutch pedal it still shaking and noisy like dmf symptoms.
Could it be DMF or fuel issue?
same problem with my vw jetta 1.9 tdi pd mk5 bxe. but i chng battery still noise is comming need to check flywheel
Hi mate think I've found my problem 2.0tdi dsg 2010 got that noise and rough idle and stalls after few mins would the dmf cause it too stall also horrible smell
I have a manual 2016 gti that makes that same rattling noise but only when cold starting.
I have same noise only in the morning ..was the flywheel!replace it and noise gone
Got a friend here with a 2004 Golf manual drive with like a fence chain draging on the ground noise(intermittent 1-2 secs) coming from passenger side by front wheel when a accelerating slow. Nothing hanging nor dragging under car. Anything on these vehicles, im scathing my head. Will AllData have this symptom in a tsb? Any help will do.
How long can I drive with the car with that noise?
I have the same noise on passat b5.5 2001 1.8t tiptronic, is it the same problem or should i check anything else?
My seat leon fr 2011 reg just started doing it.Mechanic says need to take the gearbox out to access it is that that true does anyone know plz
I have the same noise but my GTI is manual.
Just having same rattling noise on my Superb. Guess not worth asking advice, hardly people reply here😞
Exact same noise (can of marbles) on my '19 GTI with only 12,600 miles on it. Not too happy but hoping warranty will bail me out.
On a manual which stopped making the noise when you put your foot on the clutch, would that be the DMF? I assumed shaft bearings when I came across it and didn't buy the car. Bloke selling it said it was "just the clutch" which I doubt.
Did you ever get an answer for this? I just bought a manual mk5 rabbit and its making the same rattle
@@pauljensen5715 no mate. But I still think if the noise goes with the foot down on the clutch (and the clutch is working) it'll be the gearbox shaft bearings. If the noise is there whatever, then I'd suspect the DMF. Just my thoughts though.
If it goes away when you push the clutch in it’s your throw out bearing.
Which yes is technically part of the clutch as it gets replaced with it. That’s if u get a clutch kit installed. So not gearbox.
I am experiencing a loud grinding noise in drive right until about 55 km/hr. I've also developed a water pump leak. Quick guess, would you think it's two separate issues or 1 solely related to failing water pump?
What about when you put it in park and it pops a few times like it struggles to go in park Plzz help?!?
Hey bro i drive audi a5 with dsg transmission i am facing the problem whenever i put in reverse or first gear its shake or jugdering mechanic told me to replace clutch?
My scirocco sounds like this and it’s bad, buts it’s manual not DSG so what’s this?
I have this noise for two seconds just when starting the car and then it completely goes away, is it fixable?
I have a rattling noise on a 2008 gti but it rattles when I drive it at 40 mph and the rpm’s range at 1-2,000 rpm. It rattles and stops the car for a moment