8:26: I always thought it was ridiculous that Ginny had to ask who Victor Krum was and not Hermione. Ginny lives in a household where Quidditch is huge and likes/plays Quidditch herself and so naturally know who Victor Krum is. It made a lot more sense in the book that Hermione wouldn't know.
Well they kinda made it a point in the movies for Hermione to know everything and they made Harry and Ron to be complete idiots I mean in the books they were more of a dynamic yes Hermione was the smartest but none of them were stupid they each brought something different to the table they actually worked as a team instead of Hermione pulling a bunch of dead weight
Also cutting Charlie and Bill Weasley in this movie was a huge mistake (to me at least). I loved the way Bill and Mrs Weasley came to school as Harry's family, showing how much they loved and cared for him and that he had a family he can count on even if they're not related by blood.
I feel like the Weasley Family in general got the short end of the stick. I adored Charlie as a young teen and I was so sad going in to the movie expecting to see my favorite Weasley sibling. Only for him to not be a thing at all. 😑
Actually they are sort of related harry is half blood but his dad is pureblood and all pure blood familys are related in some way so ron is probably his 4th cousin lol
@@turningaround7842 nah, i literally just rewatched the clip a couple days ago, he swears a bit before this. but then he just slams the table and only says "Wheres the lamb sauce"
Swear Morgan constantly saying “there’s a lot that happened between these two events in the books”. Shows how much detail goes into the books that is left out.
@@Bayesic and that’s why I like Amos diggory in the films more than the book because as u said he was a total douchebag in the book especially towards Harry. Every interaction between them was Amos being mean and trying to humiliate Harry to make Cedric more better than him, don’t get me wrong, I love Cedric and his character also one of my best Hufflepuff characters in Harry Potter, and so this is why I love Amos in the film rather than the book. I just wish they could’ve added the moment where Amos thank Harry for bringing his son’s body back, which could bring the scene with him crying over Cedric’s death more emotional
I wish they kept the scenes where the Weasleys are actually acting as Harry's surrogate family. Bill and Molly showing up to wish him luck before the third task, and Molly hugging and comforting Harry as he cries in the hospital wing after Voldemort returns never ceases to make me tear up, it's astounding that they left that part out, with as much as the series focuses on family and love, the part where Harry experiences a mother's hug and comfort for the first time they cut out. Just goes to show that the director of this film did not care about the source material.
This movie boils my blood. It's my favorite book and they decide to overdo the first challenge, cutting out all the other interesting parts of the book and add in cringe worthy juvenile humor because.
When I was younger, this was actually my favorite book. It’s one of my least favorite movies however. As the movies go on the little liberties they took with the characters and the plot early in the series snowballed into huge differences in the later books and movies. The difference is just get worse as the movies go on
I always say “I’m not reading Harry Potter for a few years, so I can forget everything and it can all be new to me again” but movieflame just keeps reeling me back into this world I both hate and love you for it, great vid and great series, book canon for the win
I didnt read and watch the Movies for a few years when I was a Child I promised Id only watch it when I was 11 so its all new again..... Basicaly I remember a Little but I had forgoten a lot, I actualy forgot How hermionie’s name was spell at one point im ashamed
For all the poor changes this movie made from the book. I personally think that Amos's reaction to Cedric's death was a good addition. He had just lost his son, and to see that pain really makes you understand how evil Voldemort is for killing such a beloved person.
yea, i understand how any father would do that, he see's his son he loved and adored, his 1st and only son, dead right infront of him, that would be heartbreaking, dam the man might've gone into a really big depression after the 4th movie and book
i actually think that cedric diggory's father screaming like that in the movie is brilliant, your 1st and only son, that you loved and adored, dead right infront of you.
You emphasized a real problem with the movies very well. In the books, Dumbledore is NEVER flustered or frustrated. If he is, then he definitely doesn't show it. But in the movies, especially the 4th and 5th one, they show him worried and upset, as if he didn't have control of the situation. But in the books, he is ALWAYS in control.
Quite right. He becomes more of just a man rather than a whimsical wizard. I think his calmness and insightful responses made up a huge part of him and such a figure to look up to. This is why despite his mistakes found out in the end, I’ve always liked him a good bit. He was so easy to read, yet difficult. You knew everything and nothing about him but in the nicest sort of way idk if any of this makes sense
@@hayleyc643 No it does it's a great way to explain him. He's my favorite character and the people that think of him as evil or that he groomed Harry don't understand the intricacies of the curse and his mother's protection. They probably just watched the movies, and have an uninformed view on the situation.
It bugs me that the line "celebrated aurors, Frank and Alice Longbottom," is changed to "Auror Frank Longbottom and his wife." They're a power-couple dammit, give them joint credit.
I know right! This makes it seem as if it was only Frank that was an important, powerful and skilled person, and Alice was just "the wife", not special or important enough to even be called by her name. But they were BOTH powerful skilled aurors who faught against Voldemort with the order (and survived), not just Frank. Idk what the reason for this change in the movie was. Misogyny?
My favorite part about the whole Dark Marks scene is when Crouch and the others accuse Harry of casting it and Arthur puts them in their place with “Are you accusing *Harry Potter* of casting the Dark Mark?”
There is also the spell that is used to show that Harry's Wand was used to cast the mark. Winky is blamed because crouch sr. knows it was his son, who was supposed to have died in Azkaban.
Book: "Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?", Dumbledore asked calmly. Movie: HARRY **Pushes Minerva out of the way** DID **ThroatPunches Severus** YOU **Kicks Filius** PUT YOUR NAME **Yeets the table** INTO THE **Backhands Barty Jr. / Moody** GOBLET OF FIYAAHH?? **Shoves Harry in the wall** Dumbledore asked calmly.
"HARRYDIDYAPUTYANAMEINDAGOBLETOFFIRE!" Dumbledore said calmly, and with a swift motion of his wand Harry was pushed into the trophy case. Several of the teachers were pushed back and the near-Vegetable Voldemort's nose started forming.
Another difference between the books and films is that all the Hogsmeade trips it was snowing in the film but the books had them go to Hogsmeade multiple times in different seasons
in the prisoner of askaban the first hogsmeade trip was not during winter, though they don't actually show hogsmeade there oh also that one scene in deathly hallows but im not sure if that counts
In one behind-the-scenes Clip they explain this by saying that Hogsmeade were always above the snow line. Something that is obviously not true in the books
@@DarnHooligan in Deathly Hallows part 2, when they go to Hogsmeade and meet Aberforth, there’s snow there but in the books, this scene took place in May
I don't know about you, but I would have a hard time of trudging through the snow to get to Hogsmeade, whether the book said the time was winter, fall, or spring. But when Harry uses the Marauders' Map to find his way to Honeydukes under his Invisibility Cloak via a special passage near the statue of a witch and sans permission slip, that was a great workaround to a problem involving a form that nobody would sign vs. going there under a very special cloak of advanced design.
Amos Diggory screaming that his son is dead is the most gut-wrenching, emotional thing I have ever heard. That and the end of Ducktales 2017 episode "The Last Crash of The Sunchaser"
Honestly my favourite change that the movies ever made was when Harry brings Cedric's body back - his screaming and crying is very believable and so is Amos' reaction (given how much he put Cedric on a pedestal). It distresses me every time I see it
You speak as though the book doesn't reflect that, considering BOTH his parents were there, not only Amos, and Harry saw them emotionally destroyed in the last chapter.
One of the parts in the movies that bugs me pretty badly is the part where Dumbledore says "Every time I get close to an answer, it slips away! It's maddening!" The books gave the impression that he suspected/predicted most everything of what happened with Voldemort (like the horcruxes) but just sought proof of his suspicions. But the movie makes it sound like he doesn't know what he is doing and is really prone to frustration.
"Every time I get close to an answer" pretty clearly implies he has some suspicions but isn't ever able to find anything that conclusively proves it. But then again, I'm biased and will defend this movie until the end of my days as it's actually my favorite in the series!
@@AD240pCharlie Someone who thinks the same as me! Goblet of Fire is my favourite of the series. It's my favourite book, even though they're quite different. I do think a lot of the problems with Dumbledore in this film are due to the director not really reading the books, probably assuming he's basically Gandalf. However I actually quite like Dumbledore in this movie, despite that.
@@AD240pCharlieit’s the worst film in the series, absolutely terrible adaptation of the book. As a standalone film it’s good but it’s one of the worst book adaptations ever made.
I remember that while reading the books I had such a hard time figuring out who the bad guy was. Such a well done mystery. Between Mr. Crouch who suddenly started acting wierd, Ludo who was also super suspicious, Karkaroff who we know that was a Death Eater, Moody who was a new teacher and Snape (although I did not suspect him as much ater the other books XD) and in the movie it's all cut out. The only suspicious one is Karkaroff and he is acting sooo sus that everybody knows it's not him :/
I agree, Karkaroff is the one who is known to be a death eater, Bagman is the most openly immoral, Crouch is the most unlikeable, Snape is the most hostile, and Moody is the one who is suspiciously on the side of the hero. Also, there is enough plausible deniability on the side of Crouch, Jr. when he cries and screams at his trial. Like maybe he is just an innocent young man. In the movie, it is pretty obvious that BARTY CROUCH……Jr is the bad guy, and Mad Eye licking his lips pretty much gives it away.
Yeah but Snape was acting really shifty in the first movie too and that's exactly why I realised he wasn't the bad guy from the start because it was far too obvious. I figured it might be the timid stuttering guy that was just glanced over. Turns out I was right.
HARRY! DIDYOUPUTYOURNAMEINTHEGOBLETOFFIRE?? No Sir-- AGGGHH *lands on a trophy case* You didn't get one of the older students to do it for you?. No Sir-- AAAAGGH *Slams into another trophy case*. The image of dumbledore throwing him everywhere while the others just watch is killing me 😂
What no one talks about is how Michael Gambon's portrayal of Dumbledore wasn't quite right until Half-Blood Prince. When Dumbledore and Harry are talking in the afterlife in King's Cross, it was like seeing Harris' portrayal reborn. There's debate over whether this is his fault or the director's fault. Richard Harris absolutely NAILED the role, and I think Ian McKellen would've done a way better job than Gambon if only he wasn't rivals with Harris.
@@SantiagoArizti And that's fucking stupid, cuz the character doesn't change b/w the 2nd and 3rd books. Gambon didn't seem to grasp he's only playing the role cuz Harris DIED.
Leaving out the exchange that harry and Cedric had before getting the cup was almost criminal. Really shows why he felt guilty about his death, he should’ve just listened to Cedric and took the cup but they were both so noble.
Something you left out, Wormtail’s part in the graveyard. In the movie he was pretty chill after cutting off his hand. While in the book he had a bigger reaction to cutting off his hand, and was on the ground, sobbing in pain while Voldemort is confronting his death eaters
It's been over a decade since I've read any HP book, so I didn't remember his character from the novels. However, now that I've watched these first 4 "book vs movie" videos, I have to say, they did Ron a terrible disservice. They sacrificed so many moments that made him shine and instead gave most, if not all of them, to Hermione. She basically stole most of Ron's character. At this point why did they even bother keeping Ron in the films if they were going to portray him in such a hollow way?
@@willowcove888 Could you link me the source?? I’ve never heard Rowling turn down directors that loved Ron. But it’s true that Hermione is basically her self-insert character. Which means she cares about her own ego than her fans’s interests.
@Ano Sora Don't agree at all, always been showed as a bully to the students, not even hiding it from other teachers or Dumbledore to the point he traumatized Neville, even his occlumency class was more of a way to bully Harry than really teach him.
I like to point out that the actress playing Padma did actually remind the filmmakers that her character was in Ravenclaw, not Gryffindor, but the filmmakers thought it might confuse the audience and that they would not understand that these two were sisters.
That’s such a lame excuse for the film makers to give. They literally say in the book in one line - I can ask my sister Padma, you know, she’s in Ravenclaw (or something like that). That’s all they had to say in the film to explain it
@@lunalovegoodrocks It was probably the right choice to make. Film is a visual medium, and there are so few scenes with the two girls that seeing them together just makes more sense. This is what bothers me about discourse on changes from novel to movies. There SHOULD be some things that are changed in the adaptation, and it's just silly to me that people think the book should be adapted 100% perfectly in the translation to film. That would never work. That's not to say Goblet of fire isn't a flawed adaption in a lot of ways, but not EVERY change is a bad change. This change doesn't affect the story in any way whatsoever and makes the film just a tad bit more logical.
@@meatisomalley I actually really liked seeing two siblings in two different houses, that almost never happened. Not everyone is the same in a family. And they’re literal twins, if you can’t realize they’re sisters uhhh I think that’s on you
@@taylorrhouser lemme put it this way: rule #1 is show, don't tell. Showing two sisters together is always more effective and flows better than 'btw I have a sister'
I think the way Cedric’s dad reacted in the movie to finding out Cedric is dead is much more realistic and believable! Everytime I watch GOF and see him wailing over Cedric’s body it makes me cry😢. In the book it feels like his death is skimmed over.
His dad is openly weeping in Dumbledore's office, and his mom is described as looking grieved "beyond tears". Really, it's Cho in the Order of The Phoenix who's really mourning Cedric, and she's constantly described as being sad and depressing. It's actually kind of cruel how Harry and his friends are so dismissive of Cho's grieving, but it isn't too surprising considering how young people process their peers' pain.
@Dan de León also if I am not mistaken, Amos went into a very deep depression as in the seventh book we see him almost blame Harry for Cedric's death (or completely blame him.... been more than ten years since I have read the books).
One huge plot point not mentioned here is Dumbledore's momentary look of triumph when he finds out Voldemort used Harry's blood to come back: as this was the first time Dumbledore realized Harry might be able to survive being a horcrux.
I never understand that. He and Harry are intellectual equals through the entire series. Weird. I guess they need to dim Ron's sparkle to make Harry shine.
@@deaconsmom2000 Yeah, Harry and Ron are same in intelligence and work effort regarding school academics but the difference is Harry got just one higher grade than Ron.
Ron was still pretty annoying in this book though, I much preferred Hermione. He became a lot better for me towards the end of the series especially in Deathly Hallows where you see him in more complexity.
he is also exceptionally more sexist here. he was quite sassy towards hermione but nothing about how “its one thing for a bloke to come alone, but for a girl its just sad”
It's so ridiculous how many lines they give from other characters to Hermione. She is already such a heroine in the book, intelligent, shrewd, thoughtful, and wise. There's no need to make her the one person in every movie who magically knows everything as if she is a female Dumbledore. Also, as good as Emma is, Emma over-acts Hermione in my opinion, portraying her as dramatic, overreacting, and indignant, whereas in the book she is the one of the trio who is the most level-headed, always reminding Harry and Ron not to get provoked and to just ignore Rita's lies, Malfoy's taunts, etc.
we cant really blame them tbh, they were probably told to act like that, seeing as how much the movie changed from the books. unless they have specifically said otherwise
I agree with most of what you said, but Hermione was not the rationale one! She was always over-reacting while having an annoying holier than thou feel. While she was one of his best friend, even Harry didn't see Hermione as a person to chill with. Hermione has some good ideas, but they are mostly from nerdy, bookish smarts or things she read/researched. Harry is the real logical, puzzle solving, level-headed one in the trio.
@@MeeCinema_revisits harry has a temper while Hermione doesn't so he isn't more level headed but harry is far more logical and useful to defeating voldy
One big thing, to me, that always bugged me about the book was Molly's belief in Rita Skeeter's article on Hermione and Harry's supposed relationship. Its strictly stated in the early beginnings of the book that the Weasely's are aware of Rita's false publications but she firmly believes what she writes about Harry and Hermione in Witch Weekly. In a huge magazine like that, Rita Skeeter would surely attach her name to a big article about Harry's relationships. So why would Molly take it for the truth when she knows that Rita writes untrue versions of situations like with Arthur and his statements about the Attack at the Wizarding World Cup.
Yeah, and then when Amos said to Harry that why didn’t he bother to tell Skeeter to change that “Harry wasn’t the only Hogwarts champion” Molly talked horribly about Rita, that she causes trouble everywhere she goes, and Amos would know that as he works at the Ministry
@@rizwanaahmed7482 exactly. It's not really major, but it isn't really a minor oversight, but it is an oversight nonetheless that ruins the continuity that the books have already set.
Probably because Rita is a beloved writer to the witch public, it’s like those tabloid magazines we Muggles like to read, they love gossip, and the thing about Rita is that her writing isn’t technically false. Sure it can be negative, but it has a lot of true facts which is why people can’t exactly dispute what she writes. Harry actually falls into that trap as well in Deathly Hallows were Dumbledore was concerned when lack of any reliable information was present as for Mrs Weasley mistaking Harry and Hermione’s relationship, thousands of Harry Potter fans have shipped them together. Mrs Weasley looked after them and knew they were close, is it so strange for her to think they might have been dating or ther was something more between them?
Okaaaaay but Fred and George being included in the Mcgonagall ball room dancing lesson was a FANTASTIC scene added for the movie 😂 you could FEEL the teenage awkwardness 🤣🤣
Totally agree. I love the books, but also the movies even with their inaccuracies. I look at it this way. The books are canon and the movies are like a secondhand retelling. The movies are sort of like the Rita Skeeter version. 😊
@@TopRanger237 maybe a hot take but i really disagree, i think Barty Jr was a better one. Dumbledore trusting Snape was hinted at several times throughout the series, including by Dumbledore himself mere hours before his death. although i will admit i didn't go into DH expecting Snape to be one of the good guys, but i certainly knew some sort of small redemption arc would come.
Because the director didn't read the HP book(s) nor watch the previous films so ergo didn't know what the fuck he was doing, J.K Rowling should have Sparta Kicked him Square in his chest for leaving out so many great moments of the GOF.
The director that made this film didn't even bother to pick up the Goblet of Fire book or watch the previous films so Ergo had no idea how to bring an amazingly great book to the big screen
Take a shot every time he says ”this is where the book and the movie meet up again” and ”there are a lot of stuff that happens between these rwo scenes in the book”.
While Voldemort was torturing Harry in the graveyard and toying with him, in the books it says how the death eaters were laughing as hard as ever but but in the movie they remained silent. Edit: Also, in the book when Voldemort confessed himself disappointed of the Death Eaters for being gone for 13 years, he tortured one of the Death Eaters and saying he wanted 13 years of repayment after. But in the movie, he just shoves the Death Eaters’ masks off their faces.
One thing that always bugged me in the movie was when Rita Skeeter wrote that Harry was 12 instead of 14. I get they were trying to show her penchant for yellow journalism, but considering how famous Harry is in the Wizarding World, she'd never get away with lying about his age. Pretty sure book!Rita wouldn't make such an obvious blunder.
A key point once Voldemort's return was the line, "And here we have six missing Death Eaters...three dead in my service. One, too cowardly to return...he will pay. One, who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed of course...and one, who remains my faithful servant, and has already entered my service." After speculation, it was Snape, Karkaroff and Couch Jr.
@@dante.3581 Snape couldn’t show up because he was at the tournament. He couldn’t disappear without immediately outting himself as a death eater. He explains to Voldemort off screen/page why he wasn’t able to show up when he returned
I will say that Michael Gambon really made Dumbledore tougher in this film! Especially in that scene when he yelled at Harry while asking him if he put his name in the Goblet of Fire! Which is why personally, I always liked how Richard Harris played him as a calmer, gentler, and more soft spoken soul in the first two Harry Potter movies!
Yeah but could you imagine Richard Harris fighting Voldemort or actually fighting anyone? He looks like a wise grandpa, but not like a powerful wizard at all.
I loved Moody saying "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!" at random times in the book. It always made me chuckle. The movie bummed me out. I've just re read the 4th book and watched the movie....I'm so disappointed all over again. Sirius needed more screen time.
I never got around to reading any of the books and only saw the movie, but I honestly think my favorite moments that are only in the book series, are the moments where Harry is treated like a real member of the family. That totally falls in line with Ron's family and I think it's really sweet.
Ive seen all the movies and read all the books a million times and I agree! One of my favorite scenes in the book is when families visit before the final task. Harry doesn’t go at first (because his parents are dead), but then finds that Mrs. Weasley and Bill are there to wish him luck. It always warms my heart to read that scene
The first task is currently one of my favorite chapters in the entire series up to that point. Aside from the extra and random drama they added with the dragon chase, one thing I really felt the movie took away was the massive feeling of emotional payoff WHILE Harry was doing the task. He had felt nothing but misery, annoyance, stress, and fear through the past couple of weeks. He got thrown into a dangerous tournament without his consent, his own best friend doesn't want to talk to him out of jealousy, his "outlaw" godfather is risking being captured and placed under the dementor's kiss because he made him worry, the whole school won't leave him alone due to Rita Skeeter's article, his life is just hell. He even considers running away from Hogwarts, thinking his fun and belonging in the magic world came to an end. But when he got onto his Firebolt, everything changed. He wasn't being jeered, he wasn't worried about his relationships with anyone, he wasn't even battling the dragon anymore. Harry finally found his joy. Not being able to use quidditch as a distraction, it's been forever since he'd been on a broom, and at last he was back in his element. We got such a good look as to what Harry was thinking and feeling while doing this that just wasn't conveyed in the movie's script. The cherry on top with Ron being his top supporter and finally reconnecting with Harry. It was such a breath of fresh air to get a few moments of joy amongst all the misery that preceded it, and the payoff felt much more satisfying in the original book.
I laughed so hard at the scenes where Dumbledore is just screaming 😂😂😂 it's so disturbing to see this calm and gentle person being furious for 30 seconds straight 😂😂
The weird "group class" in the Great Hall I always justify in my mind as being like a study period/free period, and the Great Hall was being used kind of like the library to accommodate all the extra students. As there is no logical reason for Snape to be teaching Potions without all the equipment needed 😅 definitely an addition to the films
I honestly wish that the house elves and S.P.E.W. were in the movies because those details seem like they would be so cool on the big screen. Also Movie Flame must have spent so much time doing this and I appreciate it so good job movie flame.
That would’ve been awesome to see but it’s unnecessary to the overall story. The house elves are never seen again and SPEW is forgotten after the 5th book.
honestly SPEW is one thing i'm really ok with the movies leaving out. but yeah there was so much other shit they didn't show which is really annoying. and ofcourse don't even get me started on the "calm" Dumbledore scene ... like the entire significance of Dumbledore being mad & angry when he intrudes into Barty Jr's office after the Third Task is lost if he's always going to be like that, isn't it?
ik S.P.E.W could've been annoying if in movies , but that really should how Hermione wasn't perfect and how narrow minded she is, they made movie Hermione appear so cool, flawless and just perfect and giving her ron's lines but book Hermione was much better and has flaws and just amazing
They should have kept the scene where Draco shamelessly gloats about the fact that Cedric died with a smile in the last chapter. I really liked how Harry and co. hexed him and his cronies unconscious.
This video brought to light something that’s bothered me about dombledore in the later films. He does a lot of things that just aren’t in his character. Like once they switched actors he became waaaaay too aggressive.
Hmm. I mean he is better in the other films (this one is definitely the worst offender) and Michael Gambon is a much better actor than Richard Harris in general….. but Richard Harris absolutely nailed Dumbledore. He captured the right level of whimsy, and all the subtlety that Dumbledore required. Would he have managed to capture the gravitas required for Order of the Phoenix or the torment whilst drinking the potion in Half-blood Prince? maybe not, we'll never know. But for the two films we got he was perfect.
Yeah the first actor was absolutely PERFECT with how he played Dumbledore in the first and second film. I get that his actor died (which I’m super sad about I hope he RIPs 🙏💔) so they had no choice, but like cmon he could’ve been a bit more calmer at least.
@@dontask9000 Gambon (2nd actor) would have been a great actor for a crazy old powerful wizard, but he was way too eccentric and aggressive for Dumbledore. It was especially noticeable in contrast to Richard Harris who IMO was the perfect representation of Dumbledore. I think he got a little better over time, but a couple films like this one it definitely negatively affected my experience as a Dumbledore fan. I'm not sure how true it is but there was also a claim that Gambon purposely didn't read any material so he could make up his own version of Dumbledore, and that makes the whole situation look a lot worse.
Steve Kloves, the man who adapted all the Potter films (with the exception of Order of the Phoenix) said that this book was the hardest to adapt. He said he had worked on the screenplay for at least two years, and it nearly broke him. That might have been why he passed on adapting Phoenix.
Thanks for talking about Ron’s line after Hermione asks him to write to her! It always confused me so much and I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. I hate how the movies portray Ron as annoying and stupid. Even things like making Mad-Eye Moody ask him to say one of the Unforgivable Curses instead of Ron volunteering himself ruins his character when it happens so many times
I always figured that he was joking. My friends and I joke in a similar manner a lot, so i just took the whole "I won't write" bit as him joking since he'll obviously write to them
@@devenburkhart1264 yeah he did say that, but it was actually Barty Crouch Junior (pretending to be Mad-Eye Moody with Polyjuice Potion) who put Krum under the Imperius curse
The ONE thing I think is better in the movie is when Neville is the one who gives harry the Gillyweed. I think it was a great step towards establishing Neville as a true hero rather than the hapless comic relief, Other than that, the movie is an epic failure compared to the book.
@@scaranvostok3637 i disagree, this specific scene doesn't really change anything about dobbys death, its more the fact that basically all the meaningful scenes with dobby are cut out of the movies.
@@AirQuotes Each Director had their own idea of which way to take the story. With goblet of fire, that Director had absolutely no respect for the source material, he had never read any of the harry potter books and flat out didn’t care about them. That is why this movie is considered the worst adaptation. I’m not sure how this guy ended up getting the job to begin with since he clearly Had no interest in the books or the following.
As much as I dislike many of the new changes that they made that made no sense, I did really like the scenes with Neville. Especially him giving Harry the gillyweed felt more sentimental and worked well with the reveal of his parents near the end
always hated the bit with the dress robes. Hermione in the book would never have made fun of Ron in public for basically being poor that's exactly sort of thing Malfoy would do. Reminds me of both the second book and film they know Ron has a dangerous wand all year round but don't actually help him in the slightest. Year before the school forks out for a state of the art broomstick for Harry.
In the book none of the teachers knew Ron had a broken wand. -But you are right that Hermione would not make fun of Ron's ropes. Also Ron trys to fix it by cutting the lace of with his wand.
One of the few things the movie did better than the book was the reaction of Amos to his sons deaths. That always fealt how a parent would truly react to such a loss
Another thing that was different between Book 4 and Movie 4 was when Harry enters the tent: actual apartment interiors (real flooring, real walls everything), whereas in the movie tent scene; tent inside and tent outside.
@@JohnSmith-jh6ey I remember it took me a SOLID MONTH to get through it. I hated half of it dealing with the elf stuff THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN other than for Dobby. Ugh. But the actual tournament was super dope in the books compared to the films. ESPECIALLY the maze where we got to see a lot of Harry's cleverness come through.
In the movie Amos Diggory saying "that's my boy!" was heartbreaking... Something I think did lack in the book. But yes, I do dislike that loads of lines were given to Hermione making her look perfect, when in the books there were a lot of stuff where she didn't know. They way movies treated Ron's character makes me angry... He us an amazing friend and a wonderful person.
One of the worst parts about the movie was the casting of Barty Crouch Sr. When I read the novel, Crouch gave me an impression of a very stern and immaculate man who sends a chill down people's spine. The movie version was a fidgety and over excited person who inspires anything but fear in people, no offence to the actor.
The fact that they cut out Molly hugging Harry is the point that this movie became unforgivable in my eyes I still somewhat enjoy this film, but that was the straw that broke the camels back for me 😞
@@clementiefreya Yeah, exactly. Dobby had sooo many scenes at gof, ootp, hbp but they probably cut scenes at movies, because of CGI budgets. But what about characters like Tonks? Surely no CGI for that 🤣
I always say this about the movie: I love the first quarter of it, the moment where Fred and George age, and Malfoy turning into the ferret. Then, it all goes to shit and beyond. The one thing I do appreciate about this movie is Daniel Radcliffe's haircut. It was the most "Harry" he ever looked in all the movies.
Da fuck are you talking about? The best section of Goblet of Fire movie is the ending, the graveyard scene was simply perfect. It's the beginning of the movie what's so poorly done
I wish they would of added Moody's lesson in the movie. The one where he tries the imperius curse on the students. Plus the time when Voldemort tried to use the curse on Harry only to fail. I feel like it would've been better if they added those 2 scenes
Yeah that was a huge fail to take those parts out. It would’ve highlighted Harry’s strength with fighting against it and would’ve made him seem stronger when he was up against Voldemort. In the books when Voldemort uses the imperious curse to force Harry to bow, Harry says “I won’t!” In his head to try and fight it, and he accidentally shouts “I WONT” showing how hard he was fighting it and making him shown as a stronger character and showing how strong his will power is.
Things I don't mind: Amos' lament after Cedric's death (it was really heartbreaking), the scenes with the twins because they are fun to watch (like the yule ball practice) and excluding ludo bagman. Things I do mind: the rest of the movie, particularly the goblet of fiyah, the long dragon chase and whatever those ugly outfits the Patil twins wore supposed to be (seriously, of all the beautiful Indian attire, those dull colour combos and unflattering silhouettes were chosen, it's like the creators said omg they are indians and they are twins, no more research is needed)
@@leonardofarias8843 yes, very much actually, you get a lot more details in the book but its pretty obvious that Harry kinda resented Cedric for a while.
The video may be an hour, but it spends too much time with the action post-Quidditch World Cup and all that stuff in the campsite, e.g., who put the Dark Mark spell in the sky, who levitated the Roberts family, etc. Then you get a look at how Crouch Sr treats his house elf, Winky--worse than Lucius Malfoy treats his family's house elf, Dobby. The whole house elf welfare story that Hermione championed was missing from the movie. Or did the directors shoot the scenes but film editors cut them from the final product? Did JK Rowling agree to those missing scenes?
The golden egg scene in the prefect bathroom was always such a brilliant touch. It’s one of my favourite moments, so I can’t say I was completely disappointed in the movie version because it was pretty good and engaging. I just thought I’d say that it’s kinda random so yeah
I loved the book version because it had the plot with Barty crouch Jr being on the marauders map and Moody and Snape and Filch catching Harry out of bed.
I love Ron. I love Harry’s smart-ass ways. They took both away in the films. Plus the dragon scene annoys me to no end! The worst though is near the end when they leave out the scene with Molly and Harry in the hospital. That scene in the books makes me cry every single time. That scene gets to me way more than when Sirius dies. They needed that in there. They butcher Ron’s character so much and he’s my favorite. Makes me so angry every movie. I also hate the death of Voldemort in the end. He dies like a normal person and his body is just on the ground while everyone celebrates. It shows he’s nothing special.
Yeah I loved Harry’s character in the books because he was such a smart ass and it really showed that in the end of the day, despite having trauma (in many ways) and almost always being close to death, he was still a kid, and that smart assness reminded us that (in the books anyway).
And tragically the overdramatized-on-steroids fight scene between Harry and Voldemort in the final film caused a life altering injury to Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double.
I think the dragon scene would've been really interesting if they made it so that perhaps the dragon was being controlled or tortured or something so it's like "Holy S**t, Harry's life might be in danger". And if a scene after showed the dragon being taken away.
@@zoemoskal9700his name is david holmes if you want to search him up. he was launched with far too much force in an explosion type stunt, crashed into a wall and broke his neck - hes now paralysed from the chest down. very sad :(
32:15 - 32:20 I don't think that's meant to be a class but rather some kind of silent homework gathering...thing. The fact that it takes place in the Great Hall is an indication of this because why would they have Potions class there?
Love the film, but saddened that the Dursley segment at the beginning was removed entirely. Would have loved to see that in live action with the actors in their roles.
Leaving out fudge, winky and ludo as well as Dumbledore's change of demeanor were the worst changes in my opinion. The gleam is my favorite part of the entire series in fact as well as the twin cores were from Fawkes.
This series has been so amazing so far, I can’t believe the amount of effort you put into your videos. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!
Perfect video! I loved it! I would just add that during the time Molly and Bill went to Hogwarts to see Harry, it was the first time Bill met Fleur which then obviously explains how they ended up together (unlike movies, where we suddenly see them together in DH1)
@@davids8127 At the end of the book, Fred and George explain that they found out that Ludo Bagman had massive gambling debts to goblins. He bet everything on Harry winning, which happened, but because goblins play dirty they didn't count because Harry AND Cedric won, so they never paid the Weasley twins back. However, Harry still had the money that he won from the tournament (which Cedric's parents refused to accept) and gave all of the money to the Weasley twins because they were always looking to finance their joke shop (Harry said that he could use the laughs with how dark his world was becoming). Hence the Weasley twins use the money to buy Ron nicer dress robes and fund their shop. This is also why they allow Harry to have whatever he wants from the shop in the sixth book. All of this was explained at the end of the fourth book, which also includes the resolution to the Rita Skeeter subplot which was very satisfying that the movie also left out.
To be fair, movies will always have to make cuts for screenplays, and Bagmans character was essentially only included to add to the mystery of who put Harry’s name in the Goblet of Fire. His important lines were ones that could have been easily replaced with already existing characters, or characters like Mr. Crouch, who were more important to the overall story.
@@DJNITON don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. Goblet of Fire was originally supposed to be 2 movies, it’s the longest book in the series, they couldn’t possibly include everything into a 2.5 hour runtime.
One other difference is that in the trial of Kakaroff, Mad eye had his two eyes intact. He didn't yet have his mechanical eyes, which in the movie we can see he does when Harry drops in
Ron's smirk at Hermoine reading Rita's article kills me every time lmfao, I'll consider it true homage to their actual relationship in the book as they were almost always sassy to one another. @ 43:47
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8:26: I always thought it was ridiculous that Ginny had to ask who Victor Krum was and not Hermione. Ginny lives in a household where Quidditch is huge and likes/plays Quidditch herself and so naturally know who Victor Krum is. It made a lot more sense in the book that Hermione wouldn't know.
We can't Hermione not know shit can't we.
@@Kairos_Akuma do you mean Hermoine can't not no shit(meaning anything)?
Also, the fact that Ginny loves Quidditch and Hermione doesn't.
Well they kinda made it a point in the movies for Hermione to know everything and they made Harry and Ron to be complete idiots I mean in the books they were more of a dynamic yes Hermione was the smartest but none of them were stupid they each brought something different to the table they actually worked as a team instead of Hermione pulling a bunch of dead weight
Blame Steve "I love Hermione too much" Kloves
I feel like the catchphrase for this movie adaptation should be "But there was a lot that happened between that..."
Or " this is where the movie and book meet up again "
I was about to come down and write this
And "but that never happened in the book"
They should definitely make a show about what happened in between. Like they did with start wars the clone wars.
Yeah
Also cutting Charlie and Bill Weasley in this movie was a huge mistake (to me at least).
I loved the way Bill and Mrs Weasley came to school as Harry's family, showing how much they loved and cared for him and that he had a family he can count on even if they're not related by blood.
I feel like the Weasley Family in general got the short end of the stick. I adored Charlie as a young teen and I was so sad going in to the movie expecting to see my favorite Weasley sibling. Only for him to not be a thing at all. 😑
YESS
Foreshadow for them actually becoming family. Best mother in law he could ask for.
Actually they are sort of related harry is half blood but his dad is pureblood and all pure blood familys are related in some way so ron is probably his 4th cousin lol
Agreed, it make me confused when I watch DH how Fleur and Bill know each other, but after reading the book it make sense
“Also in the film, Cedric for some reason jumps out of a tree” had me dying with laughter
whats the timestamp for that?
@@pigeonsonmars 6:49
hahahaha I kept replaying this scene
He was practicing for twilight
“Hufflepuff teen casually jumps out tree”
"Where's the lamb sauce?"
Gordon Ramsay asked calmly
🤣🤣
@@turningaround7842 nah, i literally just rewatched the clip a couple days ago, he swears a bit before this. but then he just slams the table and only says "Wheres the lamb sauce"
DID YA PUT THE LAMB SAUCE IN THE FRYING PAN OF FIYAH HARRY
- Gordbledore said calmly
Bro why are you everywhere on every video?
Lol
Swear Morgan constantly saying “there’s a lot that happened between these two events in the books”. Shows how much detail goes into the books that is left out.
time management, books can be how ever long you want, movies don't have that
@@SirToaster9330 Yep, people don't seem to get that.
@@spirittammyk if it was a tv show then I could see their anger
i will say amos diggory’s reaction in the movie was truly heartbreaking and makes my eyes water EVERY TIME
Probably the best part about this movie
Agreed. He’s kind of an unlikable douche in the book but I’ll be god damned if that scene in the movies doesn’t still give me goosebumps
@@Bayesic very true
@@Bayesic and that’s why I like Amos diggory in the films more than the book because as u said he was a total douchebag in the book especially towards Harry. Every interaction between them was Amos being mean and trying to humiliate Harry to make Cedric more better than him, don’t get me wrong, I love Cedric and his character also one of my best Hufflepuff characters in Harry Potter, and so this is why I love Amos in the film rather than the book. I just wish they could’ve added the moment where Amos thank Harry for bringing his son’s body back, which could bring the scene with him crying over Cedric’s death more emotional
Cedric's death is the worst part of GOF for me, book and especially filmwise.
I wish they kept the scenes where the Weasleys are actually acting as Harry's surrogate family.
Bill and Molly showing up to wish him luck before the third task, and Molly hugging and comforting Harry as he cries in the hospital wing after Voldemort returns never ceases to make me tear up, it's astounding that they left that part out, with as much as the series focuses on family and love, the part where Harry experiences a mother's hug and comfort for the first time they cut out. Just goes to show that the director of this film did not care about the source material.
It also was a good setup for Fleur and Bill, instead of it just being kind of random
If this film had included anything more, it would have been so much better
@Monarch Music I mean, another 25 minutes of details would have made this film probably number 1 of the series.
@whyme15able yeah I personally think it was a great condensation
@@whyme15able Maybe, if it changed Dumbledore’s demeanor overall and a few more changes
This movie boils my blood. It's my favorite book and they decide to overdo the first challenge, cutting out all the other interesting parts of the book and add in cringe worthy juvenile humor because.
I liked the movie at first
They also did PoA dirty as well, come on, Warner
Let's not forget about the maze, the Acromantula and the sphinx being replaced by vines...
There many, many reasons why this is the most controversial movie in the franchise.
When I was younger, this was actually my favorite book. It’s one of my least favorite movies however. As the movies go on the little liberties they took with the characters and the plot early in the series snowballed into huge differences in the later books and movies. The difference is just get worse as the movies go on
I always say “I’m not reading Harry Potter for a few years, so I can forget everything and it can all be new to me again” but movieflame just keeps reeling me back into this world I both hate and love you for it, great vid and great series, book canon for the win
Lol I feel ya
I didnt read and watch the Movies for a few years when I was a Child
I promised Id only watch it when I was 11 so its all new again.....
Basicaly I remember a Little but I had forgoten a lot, I actualy forgot How hermionie’s name was spell at one point im ashamed
I thought her name was Hermione
and then you forget so much you ask yourself "when did I get these books??"
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For all the poor changes this movie made from the book. I personally think that Amos's reaction to Cedric's death was a good addition. He had just lost his son, and to see that pain really makes you understand how evil Voldemort is for killing such a beloved person.
"beloved"
yea, i understand how any father would do that, he see's his son he loved and adored, his 1st and only son, dead right infront of him, that would be heartbreaking, dam the man might've gone into a really big depression after the 4th movie and book
Agreed
@@someguy7629 Yes...the son is typically a beloved person to the father. No clue what your implication is with this lol
@@Neurotik51 I think he was correcting a word , as the op’s comment is edited
i actually think that cedric diggory's father screaming like that in the movie is brilliant, your 1st and only son, that you loved and adored, dead right infront of you.
The movie does that part better
I totally agree.
I agree the movie did it better with Amos’s grieving.
Plus there’s no mention or even a hint at Cedric’s mom so Amos is (likely) a single father on top of that
Only good thing about the movie was Amos' grief at seeing his son dead. It felt heavy and full of emotion.
You emphasized a real problem with the movies very well. In the books, Dumbledore is NEVER flustered or frustrated. If he is, then he definitely doesn't show it. But in the movies, especially the 4th and 5th one, they show him worried and upset, as if he didn't have control of the situation. But in the books, he is ALWAYS in control.
Quite right. He becomes more of just a man rather than a whimsical wizard. I think his calmness and insightful responses made up a huge part of him and such a figure to look up to. This is why despite his mistakes found out in the end, I’ve always liked him a good bit. He was so easy to read, yet difficult. You knew everything and nothing about him but in the nicest sort of way idk if any of this makes sense
“A L W A Y S”
@@hayleyc643 No it does it's a great way to explain him. He's my favorite character and the people that think of him as evil or that he groomed Harry don't understand the intricacies of the curse and his mother's protection. They probably just watched the movies, and have an uninformed view on the situation.
Actually, he screams quite a bit in the Half-Blood Prince novel. But for the most part, you are correct.
Yes because Micheal Gambon (the actor who played Dumbledore in movies 3-7) never read the books so he kinda made the character up himself
It bugs me that the line "celebrated aurors, Frank and Alice Longbottom," is changed to "Auror Frank Longbottom and his wife." They're a power-couple dammit, give them joint credit.
Yeah, surviving voldy thrice is a feat to be considered if Voldy isn't using your blood and uou aren't his horcrux
I know right! This makes it seem as if it was only Frank that was an important, powerful and skilled person, and Alice was just "the wife", not special or important enough to even be called by her name. But they were BOTH powerful skilled aurors who faught against Voldemort with the order (and survived), not just Frank. Idk what the reason for this change in the movie was. Misogyny?
Facts
What was even the point of changing the line erg
That "celebrated" part doesnt seem great to me
But i agree with ur words
My favorite part about the whole Dark Marks scene is when Crouch and the others accuse Harry of casting it and Arthur puts them in their place with “Are you accusing *Harry Potter* of casting the Dark Mark?”
Plus, since Harry says nothing about his wand being stolen (by Barty Jr) but Winky is holding it when the group shows up to interrogate Harry.
@@judywright4241 that tidbit actually slipped my mind.
Yeah it would be like accusing a Jewish person of being a Nazi.
Lol
There is also the spell that is used to show that Harry's Wand was used to cast the mark. Winky is blamed because crouch sr. knows it was his son, who was supposed to have died in Azkaban.
“HARRYDIDJAPOOTCHERNAEMINTHAGOBLOTOFFIYAH” Dumbledore said calmly.
Words that I saw before processing the sentence:
JAPOOT
CHERNA
MINT
GOBLOTO
FIYAH
What Dumbledore actually said was, "Harry, did you put your name in the Goblet of Fire?"
Dumbledore asked calmly with a vein throbbing on his forehead and gun in hand.
Dumbledore asked calmly while pushing harry off the astronomy tower
Dumbledore asked calmly while feeding harry to the basilisk
Book: "Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?", Dumbledore asked calmly.
Movie: HARRY **Pushes Minerva out of the way**
DID **ThroatPunches Severus**
YOU **Kicks Filius**
PUT YOUR NAME **Yeets the table**
INTO THE **Backhands Barty Jr. / Moody**
GOBLET OF FIYAAHH?? **Shoves Harry in the wall**
Dumbledore asked calmly.
*blows up durmstrang*
Only the Harry and goblet of fiyah scene is real, he didnt do the table backhand punch and kick stuff
😂😂😂😂😂
"HARRYDIDYAPUTYANAMEINDAGOBLETOFFIRE!" Dumbledore said calmly, and with a swift motion of his wand Harry was pushed into the trophy case. Several of the teachers were pushed back and the near-Vegetable Voldemort's nose started forming.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Another difference between the books and films is that all the Hogsmeade trips it was snowing in the film but the books had them go to Hogsmeade multiple times in different seasons
in the prisoner of askaban the first hogsmeade trip was not during winter, though they don't actually show hogsmeade there
oh also that one scene in deathly hallows but im not sure if that counts
In one behind-the-scenes Clip they explain this by saying that Hogsmeade were always above the snow line. Something that is obviously not true in the books
@@DarnHooligan in Deathly Hallows part 2, when they go to Hogsmeade and meet Aberforth, there’s snow there but in the books, this scene took place in May
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I don't know about you, but I would have a hard time of trudging through the snow to get to Hogsmeade, whether the book said the time was winter, fall, or spring. But when Harry uses the Marauders' Map to find his way to Honeydukes under his Invisibility Cloak via a special passage near the statue of a witch and sans permission slip, that was a great workaround to a problem involving a form that nobody would sign vs. going there under a very special cloak of advanced design.
Take a hit every time Morgan says “there was a lot that happened between these two scenes”
Same haha
How about no, lol, my face would be looking like a multicolor grape if the hitter was strong enough, hahaha
Bro I’m not tryna green out
Do you want me to have liver failure
My family already has bad history of liver problems I'm not about it take a shot every time he says that sentence
Amos Diggory screaming that his son is dead is the most gut-wrenching, emotional thing I have ever heard. That and the end of Ducktales 2017 episode "The Last Crash of The Sunchaser"
That's specific lol
Honestly my favourite change that the movies ever made was when Harry brings Cedric's body back - his screaming and crying is very believable and so is Amos' reaction (given how much he put Cedric on a pedestal). It distresses me every time I see it
IMO, that is the most powerful scene in all the film series. Even more powerful than when Dumbledore dies in the movie.
You speak as though the book doesn't reflect that, considering BOTH his parents were there, not only Amos, and Harry saw them emotionally destroyed in the last chapter.
@@dannyjorde2677 I meant more Harry's screaming and not letting his body go
Yeah the actor was Amos did that scene beautifully, so powerful and real.
Amos's scream messes me up every single time I watch this film.
Just imagine the Slytherins doing the Yule Ball classes with Snape
Lmao
Put your hand on my waist, Mr. Malfoy......
I just imagined it. Thanks for the laugh!
"malfoy. take my waist" "your wot" 'My *waist* mr malfoy"
What about ravenclaw doing the Yule Ball with flitwick🤣
The scene where Snape sneaks behind Ron and Harry, rolls his sleeves and pushed their heads down is so funny 🤣
Was I the only one who thought that was a study hall and not Snape's class?
@@DanielBooneArchery Was in the Great Hall
I found it funny too!
@@DanielBooneArchery same
I found it totally out of character tbh. Snape wasn’t about physical violence
One of the parts in the movies that bugs me pretty badly is the part where Dumbledore says "Every time I get close to an answer, it slips away! It's maddening!" The books gave the impression that he suspected/predicted most everything of what happened with Voldemort (like the horcruxes) but just sought proof of his suspicions. But the movie makes it sound like he doesn't know what he is doing and is really prone to frustration.
@Emily Parks Yes, he was the only person to connect Berta Jorkins's disappearance with Voldemort.
"Every time I get close to an answer" pretty clearly implies he has some suspicions but isn't ever able to find anything that conclusively proves it.
But then again, I'm biased and will defend this movie until the end of my days as it's actually my favorite in the series!
@@AD240pCharlie Someone who thinks the same as me! Goblet of Fire is my favourite of the series. It's my favourite book, even though they're quite different.
I do think a lot of the problems with Dumbledore in this film are due to the director not really reading the books, probably assuming he's basically Gandalf. However I actually quite like Dumbledore in this movie, despite that.
@@LiveHedgehogI don’t know how you can think this is your favourite movie if GOF is your favourite book, with how different they are.
@@AD240pCharlieit’s the worst film in the series, absolutely terrible adaptation of the book. As a standalone film it’s good but it’s one of the worst book adaptations ever made.
I remember that while reading the books I had such a hard time figuring out who the bad guy was. Such a well done mystery. Between Mr. Crouch who suddenly started acting wierd, Ludo who was also super suspicious, Karkaroff who we know that was a Death Eater, Moody who was a new teacher and Snape (although I did not suspect him as much ater the other books XD) and in the movie it's all cut out. The only suspicious one is Karkaroff and he is acting sooo sus that everybody knows it's not him :/
And Karkaroff acts sus for about 1 scene, and then everyone immediately forgets.
@@juli8288 7 mysteries (4 of which were integral to the A story) became one mystery
@@juli8288 I agree, they could have made David Tennant a silhouette or something, doesn’t make sense to reveal him immediately.
I agree, Karkaroff is the one who is known to be a death eater, Bagman is the most openly immoral, Crouch is the most unlikeable, Snape is the most hostile, and Moody is the one who is suspiciously on the side of the hero. Also, there is enough plausible deniability on the side of Crouch, Jr. when he cries and screams at his trial. Like maybe he is just an innocent young man.
In the movie, it is pretty obvious that BARTY CROUCH……Jr is the bad guy, and Mad Eye licking his lips pretty much gives it away.
Yeah but Snape was acting really shifty in the first movie too and that's exactly why I realised he wasn't the bad guy from the start because it was far too obvious. I figured it might be the timid stuttering guy that was just glanced over. Turns out I was right.
“Did you put your name into the Goblet of Fire, Harry?” Dumbledore asked calmly as he yeets Harry across the room
HARRY! DIDYOUPUTYOURNAMEINTHEGOBLETOFFIRE??
No Sir-- AGGGHH
*lands on a trophy case*
You didn't get one of the older students to do it for you?.
No Sir-- AAAAGGH
*Slams into another trophy case*.
The image of dumbledore throwing him everywhere while the others just watch is killing me 😂
Yes the long-anticipated “Dumbledore asked calmly” 😂
What no one talks about is how Michael Gambon's portrayal of Dumbledore wasn't quite right until Half-Blood Prince. When Dumbledore and Harry are talking in the afterlife in King's Cross, it was like seeing Harris' portrayal reborn. There's debate over whether this is his fault or the director's fault. Richard Harris absolutely NAILED the role, and I think Ian McKellen would've done a way better job than Gambon if only he wasn't rivals with Harris.
@@nahor88 this might also have been because Gambon wanted to distinguish himself from the other Dumbledore, hence the knot in the bierd
@@SantiagoArizti And that's fucking stupid, cuz the character doesn't change b/w the 2nd and 3rd books. Gambon didn't seem to grasp he's only playing the role cuz Harris DIED.
@@nahor88 your absolutely right
@@nahor88 nothing to do with rivalry. It was Lord Of The Rings. McKellan played Gandalf so he didn't want to play another wizard at the same time.
Leaving out the exchange that harry and Cedric had before getting the cup was almost criminal. Really shows why he felt guilty about his death, he should’ve just listened to Cedric and took the cup but they were both so noble.
That was literally in the movie
Something you left out, Wormtail’s part in the graveyard. In the movie he was pretty chill after cutting off his hand. While in the book he had a bigger reaction to cutting off his hand, and was on the ground, sobbing in pain while Voldemort is confronting his death eaters
Lmao that always threw me off
He cuts off his hand and is like “AHHHHGGGGSHDHDHHDJD!!!!”
and now…
@@hardcore4665 Exactly my thoughts. Also Voldemort doesnt take his oath to be loyal when he gives the hand, which kills him in the 7th book
Yes I clearly remember reading him suffer
I think that was for the pg rating. Kinda like the way in star wars when someone gets there hand cat they go "ohhhh!!" and then move on.
@@junior523 goblet of fire was pg-13 if I remember correctly
Ron's portrayal in all of the movie is borderline disgusting and you can feel the hate for the character from the writers!
They made Ron more egoistic and obstinate to make Hermione and Harry look better.
It's been over a decade since I've read any HP book, so I didn't remember his character from the novels. However, now that I've watched these first 4 "book vs movie" videos, I have to say, they did Ron a terrible disservice. They sacrificed so many moments that made him shine and instead gave most, if not all of them, to Hermione. She basically stole most of Ron's character.
At this point why did they even bother keeping Ron in the films if they were going to portray him in such a hollow way?
They degrade Ron in the movies just as much as they elevate Snape.
@@willowcove888 Could you link me the source?? I’ve never heard Rowling turn down directors that loved Ron.
But it’s true that Hermione is basically her self-insert character. Which means she cares about her own ego than her fans’s interests.
@Ano Sora Don't agree at all, always been showed as a bully to the students, not even hiding it from other teachers or Dumbledore to the point he traumatized Neville, even his occlumency class was more of a way to bully Harry than really teach him.
I like to point out that the actress playing Padma did actually remind the filmmakers that her character was in Ravenclaw, not Gryffindor, but the filmmakers thought it might confuse the audience and that they would not understand that these two were sisters.
That’s such a lame excuse for the film makers to give. They literally say in the book in one line - I can ask my sister Padma, you know, she’s in Ravenclaw (or something like that). That’s all they had to say in the film to explain it
@@lunalovegoodrocks I know, but what can we do about it, right?
@@lunalovegoodrocks It was probably the right choice to make. Film is a visual medium, and there are so few scenes with the two girls that seeing them together just makes more sense.
This is what bothers me about discourse on changes from novel to movies. There SHOULD be some things that are changed in the adaptation, and it's just silly to me that people think the book should be adapted 100% perfectly in the translation to film. That would never work.
That's not to say Goblet of fire isn't a flawed adaption in a lot of ways, but not EVERY change is a bad change. This change doesn't affect the story in any way whatsoever and makes the film just a tad bit more logical.
@@meatisomalley I actually really liked seeing two siblings in two different houses, that almost never happened. Not everyone is the same in a family. And they’re literal twins, if you can’t realize they’re sisters uhhh I think that’s on you
@@taylorrhouser lemme put it this way: rule #1 is show, don't tell. Showing two sisters together is always more effective and flows better than 'btw I have a sister'
I think the way Cedric’s dad reacted in the movie to finding out Cedric is dead is much more realistic and believable! Everytime I watch GOF and see him wailing over Cedric’s body it makes me cry😢. In the book it feels like his death is skimmed over.
Doesn't matter because the third task was done so horribly that it makes me feel nothing for Cedric.
My boy…
His dad is openly weeping in Dumbledore's office, and his mom is described as looking grieved "beyond tears". Really, it's Cho in the Order of The Phoenix who's really mourning Cedric, and she's constantly described as being sad and depressing. It's actually kind of cruel how Harry and his friends are so dismissive of Cho's grieving, but it isn't too surprising considering how young people process their peers' pain.
@Dan de León also if I am not mistaken, Amos went into a very deep depression as in the seventh book we see him almost blame Harry for Cedric's death (or completely blame him.... been more than ten years since I have read the books).
@@prof918 that's my soooon that's my boooooooy
One huge plot point not mentioned here is Dumbledore's momentary look of triumph when he finds out Voldemort used Harry's blood to come back: as this was the first time Dumbledore realized Harry might be able to survive being a horcrux.
Possibly controversial take but I love they way the film presented Amos’s reaction to Cedric’s death 😭
Same it was much more heartbreaking
Same it’s one of the few good changes the film made and if better represents the true heartache of losing a child
and then you have the band singing their tubas XD
Honestly, as someone hyper empathic and hyper sensitive, I genuinely cannot watch it with sound on. Amos's actor was just too good. Way too good.
Ugh, I cry 😭 every time
I LOVE how you cleared Ron's name at the near end because all of my friends who only watched the movie, bash and make fun of Ron for being "dumb"
Same, he's my favorite character
I never understand that. He and Harry are intellectual equals through the entire series. Weird. I guess they need to dim Ron's sparkle to make Harry shine.
@@deaconsmom2000 Yeah, Harry and Ron are same in intelligence and work effort regarding school academics but the difference is Harry got just one higher grade than Ron.
Ron was still pretty annoying in this book though, I much preferred Hermione. He became a lot better for me towards the end of the series especially in Deathly Hallows where you see him in more complexity.
he is also exceptionally more sexist here. he was quite sassy towards hermione but nothing about how “its one thing for a bloke to come alone, but for a girl its just sad”
It's so ridiculous how many lines they give from other characters to Hermione. She is already such a heroine in the book, intelligent, shrewd, thoughtful, and wise. There's no need to make her the one person in every movie who magically knows everything as if she is a female Dumbledore. Also, as good as Emma is, Emma over-acts Hermione in my opinion, portraying her as dramatic, overreacting, and indignant, whereas in the book she is the one of the trio who is the most level-headed, always reminding Harry and Ron not to get provoked and to just ignore Rita's lies, Malfoy's taunts, etc.
Honestly I think both Daniel Radcliffe and Emma Radcliffe acted pretty bad in this. Only Rupert Grint nailed his role in my book
we cant really blame them tbh, they were probably told to act like that, seeing as how much the movie changed from the books. unless they have specifically said otherwise
I agree with most of what you said, but Hermione was not the rationale one! She was always over-reacting while having an annoying holier than thou feel. While she was one of his best friend, even Harry didn't see Hermione as a person to chill with. Hermione has some good ideas, but they are mostly from nerdy, bookish smarts or things she read/researched. Harry is the real logical, puzzle solving, level-headed one in the trio.
@@MeeCinema_revisits harry has a temper while Hermione doesn't so he isn't more level headed but harry is far more logical and useful to defeating voldy
actually ron is the level headed in the books he's very rational and has common sense
One big thing, to me, that always bugged me about the book was Molly's belief in Rita Skeeter's article on Hermione and Harry's supposed relationship. Its strictly stated in the early beginnings of the book that the Weasely's are aware of Rita's false publications but she firmly believes what she writes about Harry and Hermione in Witch Weekly. In a huge magazine like that, Rita Skeeter would surely attach her name to a big article about Harry's relationships. So why would Molly take it for the truth when she knows that Rita writes untrue versions of situations like with Arthur and his statements about the Attack at the Wizarding World Cup.
Yeah, and then when Amos said to Harry that why didn’t he bother to tell Skeeter to change that “Harry wasn’t the only Hogwarts champion” Molly talked horribly about Rita, that she causes trouble everywhere she goes, and Amos would know that as he works at the Ministry
@@rizwanaahmed7482 exactly. It's not really major, but it isn't really a minor oversight, but it is an oversight nonetheless that ruins the continuity that the books have already set.
Probably because Rita is a beloved writer to the witch public, it’s like those tabloid magazines we Muggles like to read, they love gossip, and the thing about Rita is that her writing isn’t technically false. Sure it can be negative, but it has a lot of true facts which is why people can’t exactly dispute what she writes. Harry actually falls into that trap as well in Deathly Hallows were Dumbledore was concerned when lack of any reliable information was present as for Mrs Weasley mistaking Harry and Hermione’s relationship, thousands of Harry Potter fans have shipped them together. Mrs Weasley looked after them and knew they were close, is it so strange for her to think they might have been dating or ther was something more between them?
@@krisynthiagomez5883 So are you a Harmony shipper?
@@scaranvostok3637 used to be, not anymore.
Roses are red
you are a liar
*HARRY, DID YA PUT YA NAME IN DA GOBLET OF FIYAH?*
Perfect
Why does this work so well?
Dumbledore asked calmly
Gryffindor is red
Lockhart is a liar
HARRY DID YA PUT YO NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIYAH?!?!!?
Lmao🤣😂
Okaaaaay but Fred and George being included in the Mcgonagall ball room dancing lesson was a FANTASTIC scene added for the movie 😂 you could FEEL the teenage awkwardness 🤣🤣
That was actually my fav part😂
Totally agree. I love the books, but also the movies even with their inaccuracies. I look at it this way. The books are canon and the movies are like a secondhand retelling. The movies are sort of like the Rita Skeeter version. 😊
Ikr
@@ravenregards wrong interpretation but ok…
“It really makes you FEEL like teenage awkwardness.” 10/10 IGN
I actually really liked the addition of Amos' reaction in the movie. Felt so powerful and heartfelt
Another manipulable dumbfuck
Why did they showed Barty Crouch Jr. since the start? That screwed up one of the best plot twist of the series.
Snape was the best plot twist of the seires
@@TopRanger237 yet the movie did nothing about the mystery behind the HBP making his reveal in the film look like confused Jack Sparrow expression.
@@scaranvostok3637 well you can't just show Harry sitting there for 5 minutes staring at the book
@@TopRanger237 maybe a hot take but i really disagree, i think Barty Jr was a better one. Dumbledore trusting Snape was hinted at several times throughout the series, including by Dumbledore himself mere hours before his death. although i will admit i didn't go into DH expecting Snape to be one of the good guys, but i certainly knew some sort of small redemption arc would come.
Because the director didn't read the HP book(s) nor watch the previous films so ergo didn't know what the fuck he was doing, J.K Rowling should have Sparta Kicked him Square in his chest for leaving out so many great moments of the GOF.
“But there is so much that happened in between scenes.” He said this so many times. Just show that the movie leaves so much out.
Yeah. Idea for your next drinking game: Every time MovieFlame says that there was so much between these scenes in the OotP episode, take a shot.
The director that made this film didn't even bother to pick up the Goblet of Fire book or watch the previous films so Ergo had no idea how to bring an amazingly great book to the big screen
@@phillipjackson3498 yeah :/ which is why I don’t like the 4th movie
Take a shot every time he says ”this is where the book and the movie meet up again” and ”there are a lot of stuff that happens between these rwo scenes in the book”.
You might wanna get a lawyer before making a comment like this cause you’re about to cause a lot of alcohol poisoning related hospitalizations
The liver cirrhosis you would cause in the future due to over intoxication
Are you trying to kill people
@@AirQuotes Maybe I am… You shouldn’t trust everyone you meet on the internet…
@@historyiswacky4894 r/iamverybadass
While Voldemort was torturing Harry in the graveyard and toying with him, in the books it says how the death eaters were laughing as hard as ever but but in the movie they remained silent.
Edit: Also, in the book when Voldemort confessed himself disappointed of the Death Eaters for being gone for 13 years, he tortured one of the Death Eaters and saying he wanted 13 years of repayment after. But in the movie, he just shoves the Death Eaters’ masks off their faces.
Was a much shorter speech: further than anybody
HARRY DID YA PUT YA NAME IN DA GOBLET OF FIYAA?! Dumbledore asked calmly, pointing his AK-47 at Harry
“HARRY, YOU’RE A WIZARD!” Hagrid yelled while pointing his gun in Harry’s face 😆
@@redblaze8700 That just reminded me of when Vernon pointed a gun at hagrid lol
If he casted an age ring how would've Harry put his name in the goblet in the first place?
😂😂
He's English so it should be an L85A1
One thing that always bugged me in the movie was when Rita Skeeter wrote that Harry was 12 instead of 14. I get they were trying to show her penchant for yellow journalism, but considering how famous Harry is in the Wizarding World, she'd never get away with lying about his age. Pretty sure book!Rita wouldn't make such an obvious blunder.
it was said as an offense, older people fake ignorance as an insult to smart a** teenagers. teenagers boil when an adult does something like that
A key point once Voldemort's return was the line, "And here we have six missing Death Eaters...three dead in my service. One, too cowardly to return...he will pay. One, who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed of course...and one, who remains my faithful servant, and has already entered my service."
After speculation, it was Snape, Karkaroff and Couch Jr.
Wait… Voldemort still trusted both snape and Couch jr. right at this point, right?
@@EvaWatchesRUclips He trusted Crouch Jr, not Snape yet
@@chocochipjewel Yeah because after this Snape told Voldemort he didn’t return because as many others he thought The Dark Lord was gone.
@@dante.3581 Snape couldn’t show up because he was at the tournament. He couldn’t disappear without immediately outting himself as a death eater. He explains to Voldemort off screen/page why he wasn’t able to show up when he returned
You said Couch 🤣.
Its Crouch obviously.
I will say that Michael Gambon really made Dumbledore tougher in this film! Especially in that scene when he yelled at Harry while asking him if he put his name in the Goblet of Fire! Which is why personally, I always liked how Richard Harris played him as a calmer, gentler, and more soft spoken soul in the first two Harry Potter movies!
Dumbledore was really OOC in this film, he was much more book accurate in the previous and later films.
Yeah but could you imagine Richard Harris fighting Voldemort or actually fighting anyone? He looks like a wise grandpa, but not like a powerful wizard at all.
@@CanCompImagine kind, calm, wise Richard Harris..
Go all rage glowing with power.
The impact would have mirrored the impact we see in the book.
I loved Moody saying "CONSTANT VIGILANCE!!" at random times in the book. It always made me chuckle. The movie bummed me out. I've just re read the 4th book and watched the movie....I'm so disappointed all over again. Sirius needed more screen time.
That was Barty 🙄🙄
@@rizwanaahmed7482 I know it was, apparently it's something Moody actually says too though
@@rizwanaahmed7482 Finish the sentence. It was Barty... pretending to be Moody. So it's something that the real Moody said too.
Hair styles also suck
@@dannyjorde2677 my point. Thank you!
I never got around to reading any of the books and only saw the movie, but I honestly think my favorite moments that are only in the book series, are the moments where Harry is treated like a real member of the family. That totally falls in line with Ron's family and I think it's really sweet.
Same! It aggravates me big time that the movies don't showcase that at all for whatever reason. :(
Ive seen all the movies and read all the books a million times and I agree! One of my favorite scenes in the book is when families visit before the final task. Harry doesn’t go at first (because his parents are dead), but then finds that Mrs. Weasley and Bill are there to wish him luck. It always warms my heart to read that scene
Yeah, the Weasleys were such a great surrogate family for Harry in the books but they don't really touch on it much in the films
Can we take a sec to appreciate the thoroughness and detail this dude puts into this vid that makes it over an hour? Like damn!
The first task is currently one of my favorite chapters in the entire series up to that point. Aside from the extra and random drama they added with the dragon chase, one thing I really felt the movie took away was the massive feeling of emotional payoff WHILE Harry was doing the task. He had felt nothing but misery, annoyance, stress, and fear through the past couple of weeks. He got thrown into a dangerous tournament without his consent, his own best friend doesn't want to talk to him out of jealousy, his "outlaw" godfather is risking being captured and placed under the dementor's kiss because he made him worry, the whole school won't leave him alone due to Rita Skeeter's article, his life is just hell. He even considers running away from Hogwarts, thinking his fun and belonging in the magic world came to an end. But when he got onto his Firebolt, everything changed. He wasn't being jeered, he wasn't worried about his relationships with anyone, he wasn't even battling the dragon anymore. Harry finally found his joy. Not being able to use quidditch as a distraction, it's been forever since he'd been on a broom, and at last he was back in his element. We got such a good look as to what Harry was thinking and feeling while doing this that just wasn't conveyed in the movie's script. The cherry on top with Ron being his top supporter and finally reconnecting with Harry. It was such a breath of fresh air to get a few moments of joy amongst all the misery that preceded it, and the payoff felt much more satisfying in the original book.
Ok but can we just talk about that short compilation of Dumbledore screaming randomly throughout literally 1 film😂😂
Cracked me up. Film got his chill character so wrong
But he was screaming calmly
Timestamp?
@@loganleger6642 they really did confuse him with Gandoff.
I laughed so hard at the scenes where Dumbledore is just screaming 😂😂😂 it's so disturbing to see this calm and gentle person being furious for 30 seconds straight 😂😂
LMAO trueee. When I see the movie again, I really don't have to be serious about it. Just to see every ridiculous scene 😂😂☠️
The weird "group class" in the Great Hall I always justify in my mind as being like a study period/free period, and the Great Hall was being used kind of like the library to accommodate all the extra students. As there is no logical reason for Snape to be teaching Potions without all the equipment needed 😅 definitely an addition to the films
I agree that it's a study hall/free period
That's what I've always thought as well, and I kinda thought that should've been pretty obvious. They're in the great hall after all, not a classroom!
That's what I thought as well since I went to a boarding school once.
I honestly wish that the house elves and S.P.E.W. were in the movies because those details seem like they would be so cool on the big screen. Also Movie Flame must have spent so much time doing this and I appreciate it so good job movie flame.
S.P.E.W. is the reason for Ron and Hermione's book kiss!!!! I can't forgive how they omitted that!!!!
@@scaranvostok3637 exactly.
That would’ve been awesome to see but it’s unnecessary to the overall story. The house elves are never seen again and SPEW is forgotten after the 5th book.
honestly SPEW is one thing i'm really ok with the movies leaving out. but yeah there was so much other shit they didn't show which is really annoying. and ofcourse don't even get me started on the "calm" Dumbledore scene ... like the entire significance of Dumbledore being mad & angry when he intrudes into Barty Jr's office after the Third Task is lost if he's always going to be like that, isn't it?
ik S.P.E.W could've been annoying if in movies , but that really should how Hermione wasn't perfect and how narrow minded she is,
they made movie Hermione appear so cool, flawless and just perfect and giving her ron's lines
but book Hermione was much better and has flaws and just amazing
They should have kept the scene where Draco shamelessly gloats about the fact that Cedric died with a smile in the last chapter. I really liked how Harry and co. hexed him and his cronies unconscious.
Who is co
@@strangebyers co = company
@@SP-mz8oe ok
@@strangebyers George used jelly legs jinx, and Harry used Furnunculus curse
And I like how Fred and George are trying to figure out who hexed what also Harry giving them the triwizard winnings
This video brought to light something that’s bothered me about dombledore in the later films. He does a lot of things that just aren’t in his character. Like once they switched actors he became waaaaay too aggressive.
I completely agree. Even tho dumbledore made a lot of mistakes as we found in the last book, his character made it more forgiving and understandable
I know right? :(
Hmm. I mean he is better in the other films (this one is definitely the worst offender) and Michael Gambon is a much better actor than Richard Harris in general….. but Richard Harris absolutely nailed Dumbledore. He captured the right level of whimsy, and all the subtlety that Dumbledore required. Would he have managed to capture the gravitas required for Order of the Phoenix or the torment whilst drinking the potion in Half-blood Prince? maybe not, we'll never know. But for the two films we got he was perfect.
Yeah the first actor was absolutely PERFECT with how he played Dumbledore in the first and second film. I get that his actor died (which I’m super sad about I hope he RIPs 🙏💔) so they had no choice, but like cmon he could’ve been a bit more calmer at least.
@@dontask9000 Gambon (2nd actor) would have been a great actor for a crazy old powerful wizard, but he was way too eccentric and aggressive for Dumbledore. It was especially noticeable in contrast to Richard Harris who IMO was the perfect representation of Dumbledore. I think he got a little better over time, but a couple films like this one it definitely negatively affected my experience as a Dumbledore fan.
I'm not sure how true it is but there was also a claim that Gambon purposely didn't read any material so he could make up his own version of Dumbledore, and that makes the whole situation look a lot worse.
Steve Kloves, the man who adapted all the Potter films (with the exception of Order of the Phoenix) said that this book was the hardest to adapt. He said he had worked on the screenplay for at least two years, and it nearly broke him. That might have been why he passed on adapting Phoenix.
We just wish it had broken him and he never continued adapting the nobles to screenplays.
@@samsquantch2893no, we don't
@@Luigi-hn1hu yes we do!
@@Luigi-hn1huhad Kloves dropped the rest of the films then Ron would have more moments plus he had a weird bias to Hermione
"There's a lot that happens between these two scenes." he said calmly.
The level of detail this guy brings is amazing!!!! The best one will always be: "asked calmly" in the goblet of fire.
Thanks for talking about Ron’s line after Hermione asks him to write to her! It always confused me so much and I’m glad I wasn’t the only one. I hate how the movies portray Ron as annoying and stupid. Even things like making Mad-Eye Moody ask him to say one of the Unforgivable Curses instead of Ron volunteering himself ruins his character when it happens so many times
I always figured that he was joking. My friends and I joke in a similar manner a lot, so i just took the whole "I won't write" bit as him joking since he'll obviously write to them
@@Stevelover0267 yeah I suppose he could have been joking 👍 I think I just take things very literally ahaha
In the movie Dumbledore said that the maze can change you. Krum was under the mazes curse I thought.
@@devenburkhart1264 yeah he did say that, but it was actually Barty Crouch Junior (pretending to be Mad-Eye Moody with Polyjuice Potion) who put Krum under the Imperius curse
@@mira_g_16 was a
It was heart touching that mrs weasley hugging harry making him feel the love of a mother this is why I love the weasly family
Not even a little surprised by how long this one is lmao. I have been thinking about it since you started this series!
I honestly thought it was gonna be longer GOF leaves out soooo much 😂😂😂
The ONE thing I think is better in the movie is when Neville is the one who gives harry the Gillyweed. I think it was a great step towards establishing Neville as a true hero rather than the hapless comic relief, Other than that, the movie is an epic failure compared to the book.
But it makes Dobby's death in the films more less heartbreaking.
@@scaranvostok3637 i disagree, this specific scene doesn't really change anything about dobbys death, its more the fact that basically all the meaningful scenes with dobby are cut out of the movies.
Exactly. I bet the writer's tried to cut out his death scene too. They obviously had no respect for his character.
That and the lack of SPEW are the only changes I liked in that film.
@@AirQuotes Each Director had their own idea of which way to take the story. With goblet of fire, that Director had absolutely no respect for the source material, he had never read any of the harry potter books and flat out didn’t care about them. That is why this movie is considered the worst adaptation. I’m not sure how this guy ended up getting the job to begin with since he clearly Had no interest in the books or the following.
Nobody:
Movieflame: There was quite a lot that happened between these two scenes.
Take a shot every time he says it
And this is where the book and the movie finally meet up again.
@@NinjaChipmunk12 I’m drunk now
As much as I dislike many of the new changes that they made that made no sense, I did really like the scenes with Neville. Especially him giving Harry the gillyweed felt more sentimental and worked well with the reveal of his parents near the end
always hated the bit with the dress robes. Hermione in the book would never have made fun of Ron in public for basically being poor that's exactly sort of thing Malfoy would do. Reminds me of both the second book and film they know Ron has a dangerous wand all year round but don't actually help him in the slightest. Year before the school forks out for a state of the art broomstick for Harry.
In the book none of the teachers knew Ron had a broken wand. -But you are right that Hermione would not make fun of Ron's ropes. Also Ron trys to fix it by cutting the lace of with his wand.
I feel like we should do a drinking game everytime he says "a lot happened between these scenes" and "this is where the book and film meet up again"
We would all die
The dwarf likes it.
One of the few things the movie did better than the book was the reaction of Amos to his sons deaths. That always fealt how a parent would truly react to such a loss
Even though the dance between Ron and McGonagall never existed in the book it looks amazing and it's hilarious 😂😂
Another thing that was different between Book 4 and Movie 4 was when Harry enters the tent: actual apartment interiors
(real flooring, real walls everything), whereas in the movie tent scene; tent inside and tent outside.
There’s a lot of “A lot happens in between these two scenes”, must’ve been a really long book.
It's certainly a doorstopper. Only the fifth book is longer, but not by much.
@@JPTLN the 5th book = best book
5th movie = worst film
734 pages in the US
@@acemstudio movie 7/8 (especially 7) vs book 7 was pretty bad as well.
@@JohnSmith-jh6ey I remember it took me a SOLID MONTH to get through it. I hated half of it dealing with the elf stuff THAT WAS NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN other than for Dobby. Ugh. But the actual tournament was super dope in the books compared to the films. ESPECIALLY the maze where we got to see a lot of Harry's cleverness come through.
In the movie Amos Diggory saying "that's my boy!" was heartbreaking... Something I think did lack in the book.
But yes, I do dislike that loads of lines were given to Hermione making her look perfect, when in the books there were a lot of stuff where she didn't know. They way movies treated Ron's character makes me angry... He us an amazing friend and a wonderful person.
It didn't lack, Moody rushed Harry away, unlike in the movie. It was a stupid addition
Hormine is new to the wizarding world like Harry so woulnt know much , that’s why ron a pureblood wizard was able to tell harry everything
One of the worst parts about the movie was the casting of Barty Crouch Sr. When I read the novel, Crouch gave me an impression of a very stern and immaculate man who sends a chill down people's spine. The movie version was a fidgety and over excited person who inspires anything but fear in people, no offence to the actor.
Thank you! I almost thought I was the only one disappointed by this. I'm glad there's others.
...with a French accent?
I guess they tried to merge both Bagman and Crouch into a single character
@@SantiagoArizti He's nothing like Bagman either
I think a good cast for him would have been colin ferell who played graves in fantastic beasts
The fact that they cut out Molly hugging Harry is the point that this movie became unforgivable in my eyes
I still somewhat enjoy this film, but that was the straw that broke the camels back for me 😞
i can't believe they cut out the part with dobby giving harry the socks he made for him, that would've been a cute and pure asf scene
probably didnt have enough for dobby’s CGI budget
@@clementiefreya Yeah, exactly. Dobby had sooo many scenes at gof, ootp, hbp but they probably cut scenes at movies, because of CGI budgets. But what about characters like Tonks? Surely no CGI for that 🤣
I always say this about the movie: I love the first quarter of it, the moment where Fred and George age, and Malfoy turning into the ferret. Then, it all goes to shit and beyond.
The one thing I do appreciate about this movie is Daniel Radcliffe's haircut. It was the most "Harry" he ever looked in all the movies.
Da fuck are you talking about? The best section of Goblet of Fire movie is the ending, the graveyard scene was simply perfect. It's the beginning of the movie what's so poorly done
I wish they would of added Moody's lesson in the movie. The one where he tries the imperius curse on the students. Plus the time when Voldemort tried to use the curse on Harry only to fail. I feel like it would've been better if they added those 2 scenes
Yes! I too wish they wouldn’t have cut this!
Yeah that was a huge fail to take those parts out. It would’ve highlighted Harry’s strength with fighting against it and would’ve made him seem stronger when he was up against Voldemort. In the books when Voldemort uses the imperious curse to force Harry to bow, Harry says “I won’t!” In his head to try and fight it, and he accidentally shouts “I WONT” showing how hard he was fighting it and making him shown as a stronger character and showing how strong his will power is.
Things I don't mind: Amos' lament after Cedric's death (it was really heartbreaking), the scenes with the twins because they are fun to watch (like the yule ball practice) and excluding ludo bagman.
Things I do mind: the rest of the movie, particularly the goblet of fiyah, the long dragon chase and whatever those ugly outfits the Patil twins wore supposed to be (seriously, of all the beautiful Indian attire, those dull colour combos and unflattering silhouettes were chosen, it's like the creators said omg they are indians and they are twins, no more research is needed)
Was Harry envious of Cedric?
For dancing with Cho
@@leonardofarias8843 yes, very much actually, you get a lot more details in the book but its pretty obvious that Harry kinda resented Cedric for a while.
And the fact Mrs Weasly and Bill come as Harry's family for the final task, as they both knew that the Dursleys wouldn't come
@@Dandidoodles But he’s a enourmous fan of Cedric in the movie, so its okay
The fact that this video is over an hour long, really says a lot.
True
The video may be an hour, but it spends too much time with the action post-Quidditch World Cup and all that stuff in the campsite, e.g., who put the Dark Mark spell in the sky, who levitated the Roberts family, etc. Then you get a look at how Crouch Sr treats his house elf, Winky--worse than Lucius Malfoy treats his family's house elf, Dobby. The whole house elf welfare story that Hermione championed was missing from the movie. Or did the directors shoot the scenes but film editors cut them from the final product? Did JK Rowling agree to those missing scenes?
The golden egg scene in the prefect bathroom was always such a brilliant touch. It’s one of my favourite moments, so I can’t say I was completely disappointed in the movie version because it was pretty good and engaging. I just thought I’d say that it’s kinda random so yeah
I loved the book version because it had the plot with Barty crouch Jr being on the marauders map and Moody and Snape and Filch catching Harry out of bed.
That bathroom is one of the things I would like to have in real live.
26:15 And that was when Ron finally accepted that Harry would never have voluntarily entered such a competition.
I love Ron. I love Harry’s smart-ass ways. They took both away in the films. Plus the dragon scene annoys me to no end!
The worst though is near the end when they leave out the scene with Molly and Harry in the hospital. That scene in the books makes me cry every single time. That scene gets to me way more than when Sirius dies. They needed that in there.
They butcher Ron’s character so much and he’s my favorite. Makes me so angry every movie. I also hate the death of Voldemort in the end. He dies like a normal person and his body is just on the ground while everyone celebrates. It shows he’s nothing special.
Yeah I loved Harry’s character in the books because he was such a smart ass and it really showed that in the end of the day, despite having trauma (in many ways) and almost always being close to death, he was still a kid, and that smart assness reminded us that (in the books anyway).
And tragically the overdramatized-on-steroids fight scene between Harry and Voldemort in the final film caused a life altering injury to Daniel Radcliffe's stunt double.
I think the dragon scene would've been really interesting if they made it so that perhaps the dragon was being controlled or tortured or something so it's like "Holy S**t, Harry's life might be in danger".
And if a scene after showed the dragon being taken away.
@@richdog490oh my gosh that’s awful!! 😢 what happened to him? I never knew about this. Extra sad that it was for a scene that wasn’t even needed…
@@zoemoskal9700his name is david holmes if you want to search him up. he was launched with far too much force in an explosion type stunt, crashed into a wall and broke his neck - hes now paralysed from the chest down. very sad :(
32:15 - 32:20 I don't think that's meant to be a class but rather some kind of silent homework gathering...thing. The fact that it takes place in the Great Hall is an indication of this because why would they have Potions class there?
They had same homework gathering in 2nd movie. Just before harry hears voices in the walls for the second(i think) time. Ginny's in the class as well.
Love the film, but saddened that the Dursley segment at the beginning was removed entirely. Would have loved to see that in live action with the actors in their roles.
EXCELLENT!!!! And I always love how you stand up for Ron. That bit at the end always angers me SO MUCH. Who let that screen writer do that?????
The scene with Molly hugging Harry in the books always makes me tear up. Wish it'd been in the movie.
New movie title: Harry Potter and the Goblet of There’s Actually Quite a Lot That Happens Between These Two Scenes
Leaving out fudge, winky and ludo as well as Dumbledore's change of demeanor were the worst changes in my opinion. The gleam is my favorite part of the entire series in fact as well as the twin cores were from Fawkes.
This series has been so amazing so far, I can’t believe the amount of effort you put into your videos. This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!
Perfect video! I loved it! I would just add that during the time Molly and Bill went to Hogwarts to see Harry, it was the first time Bill met Fleur which then obviously explains how they ended up together (unlike movies, where we suddenly see them together in DH1)
Reading this book was so much fun as an adult and I saw a few details that were missed and I wanted to hear more about them
It was insane to me how they left Ludo Bagman out of the movie. He was a pretty important character.
What happened with the bet he made with the twins? Was it resolved?
@@davids8127 At the end of the book, Fred and George explain that they found out that Ludo Bagman had massive gambling debts to goblins. He bet everything on Harry winning, which happened, but because goblins play dirty they didn't count because Harry AND Cedric won, so they never paid the Weasley twins back. However, Harry still had the money that he won from the tournament (which Cedric's parents refused to accept) and gave all of the money to the Weasley twins because they were always looking to finance their joke shop (Harry said that he could use the laughs with how dark his world was becoming). Hence the Weasley twins use the money to buy Ron nicer dress robes and fund their shop. This is also why they allow Harry to have whatever he wants from the shop in the sixth book.
All of this was explained at the end of the fourth book, which also includes the resolution to the Rita Skeeter subplot which was very satisfying that the movie also left out.
To be fair, movies will always have to make cuts for screenplays, and Bagmans character was essentially only included to add to the mystery of who put Harry’s name in the Goblet of Fire. His important lines were ones that could have been easily replaced with already existing characters, or characters like Mr. Crouch, who were more important to the overall story.
@@truz8134True on the one hand. But I think your first argument is much stronger. They should’ve included him for the mystery, he had an alibi.
@@DJNITON don’t get me wrong, I agree with you. Goblet of Fire was originally supposed to be 2 movies, it’s the longest book in the series, they couldn’t possibly include everything into a 2.5 hour runtime.
One other difference is that in the trial of Kakaroff, Mad eye had his two eyes intact. He didn't yet have his mechanical eyes, which in the movie we can see he does when Harry drops in
can we just appreciate that THIS guy, edited and spoke a hole entire hour worth of information.. woah
Even though, "There was a lot that happened between these 2 scenes in the book."
I mean, yeah, a lot of people do that.
Ron's smirk at Hermoine reading Rita's article kills me every time lmfao, I'll consider it true homage to their actual relationship in the book as they were almost always sassy to one another. @ 43:47
Harry had asked Lavender for Ron, but she was going with Seamus. Parvati then suggested her sister Padma
The love Mrs. Weasley has for Harry always makes me smile. 🥰
She’s literally a mother to him.
The Weasley’s, Remus Lupin and Sirius Black really treated Harry like true family. ❤️