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Try going into a game where Rei uses all her abilities to Grant ad much ult spam, and also a Octavia choosing the ult gen passive. Would be very fun to see.
I never thought I wanted such thing as a Grohk announcer pack so badly Jokes aside, I can agree wholeheartedly with each placement on this list. Though, I'm surprised you didn't make any honorable mentions like in the other top list videos. Personally, I would've added Corvus as a honorable mention, considering that he's already a great flank pocket and he can stun enemies through shields with his Stunning Visage talent
I had a teammate playing ying and healed 200k and damaged 150k by using FL talent (ranked) She had her ult every 2seconds it so incredible I really wanna learn dmg/heal ying (I'm a ying main lol)
@@JABRIEL251 yees I know that's why I was so impressed Most of yings that I met in ranked and played FL or Resonance talent made me lose because of lack of healing
I main ying, I'd use dimensional link to teleport to a low health enemy when they run away to finish them off and go for their healer. Yings a great flank support going with a flank using focusing lens and healing the flank with decoys
As someone who was once a Furia support main slowly moving over to Rei support main. I absolutely love the Ulti generation it provides me and my teammates... I just wish my teammates would stop being stingy with their Ultis while I play Rei. But everything you say about those two supports are 100% correct. And chain heal when you have level 3 reduced cooldown is ridiculous.
I really wanted my girl skye to appear on the list. I've been using her as an off support to give my flanks (or terminus) a permanent 40% speedboost + heals and its so satisfying to see the entire team move like cockroaches when you turn up the lights.
if you did best battle healer corvous can pop up as he can only heal one person or more if someone has a mark or two marks with a talent but he has a good talent that allows his knife to stun a enemy for one second but because corvous has a fast fire rate on his primary with nice damage he can secure a kill with it run cronos with deft hands and you can destroy people as you can reload faster to deliver more damage and cronos to reduce his knives cooldown which will take out tanks easier
Technically true but there are champs that are build to main and others to off. Very good example is Grohk, he does pretty well as a main healer, but his whole kit (cards/talents included) makes him much better as a off-support. So, in a way, it's kinda a waste having Grohk as a main healer in your comp since you're not maximizing his potential.
As a pip main, honestly andro or some hitscan flank wasn't a proble since we can just jump to our teammates. The only problem is those who can disturb our jump. Buck is one of them
Yo can you make a guide on how to get started at ranked. Like how to go through the transition from casual player to ranked. I seem to stomp on casual and usually carry but In ranked everyone else is a lot better.
Focus more on team play rather than solo, pick the optimal champion for the situation depending on what champions the enemy has, dont go picking whoever you want unless your the very first or final to pick or your favorite champion vurrently fits a role thats needed, if your banning; ban those that are considered meta like, Androxous or VII or maybe save them for yourself or another teamate if you picking first. Discuss with your team before game for optimal team composition and trading, you have extra time on ranked, only play ranked after unlocking atleast 40 champs, and are decent at most, otherwise you migth get locked out of an important role if you dont own that many champions. And git gud, listen for flanks, aim better, and generally do what your class must do, again you should be more with your team rather than being alone, staying alive and applying pressure is better than getting one kill and then dying yourself.
Bold opinion: off supports, even without a main one, are still good and *can* be better than a solo main healer. Motive: anti-heal, especially in the end game. Once anti-heal reaches anywhere above or at 60%, healing becomes way less strong. That's where off supports shine, and that's when, imo, it's better to have a solo off support than a solo main sup. Would you prefer a mid healing with little to no other buffs or anything like that, or a mid to bad healing, but way more damage?
first, even with cauterize like 90%, a main support is still viable if your tank know how to get out of the cauterize just for 1s second, off support usually not providing nearly enough dmg, the exception r Furia or Seris, because their base kit healing is high enough even without suppport talent take Ying as an example, without life exchange, has a poor healing, i would say a Raum with healing talent could have dont better, because her clone healing r suck, even without cauterize, it take soo long to heal a tank to get back in a fight Grohk is also another example
as Pip, iirc, u forget to mention 1 of his weakness, is the struggle to hit mobile target, especially flying champ, but ye, that's how almost every projective struggle anyway ok Im sad that Raum doesnt make his way here
I am learning so much about ying. Imagine not rushing chronos and morale boost ad furia. Couldn't be me and 1 thing I love to do as rei. Envelope ults and see the enemy in pain when their ult is useless against me
im a ying main who never knew she's an off support. I've always used her as a main support so ig no wonder why im always stressed asf but I think i still do good.
@@mugenmasters8564 OK I was kinda wrong but thats mainly because Lilith isnt as popular as I expected and Andrew allowed himself to use the same champion in both lists, which is smth I thought would be against the rules like in the two top 5 tank lists from a year ago.
Think yings math is off, the attack tales 0.2 seconds so you attack Every 0.7 seconds not 0.5 so there is no way it's 1300 she attacks like 700 dmg per second normally
PIP #1!!! He finally makes it to a list and finally gets some attention... and ying is ranked higher than him :| Pain... I pretty much expected the other champions when I realized you were going for dmg consistency with healing potential(Raum could be on this list lol). Love the list Andrew also Ying can teleport to her teamates?! I've never seen a ying do that xD. Also pip sustain is NOT the play btw, maximum movement for the win!
It has much less consistency than Grohk's and it's harder to justify using that card when he has so many other important cards like potion radius and Reload.
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I feel like Seris could be on both list becasue with alot of pratice she can deal over 60k damage, and can still get over 50k healing.
@@tntpodcast2701 lol thats low. I hit about 100k healing and 125k+ dmg each match with seris she defo is good.
thunder struck for grohk on lv 1 keeps his ammo as well up long enough you just dont have to miss shock ball 2 times in a row
As a Grohk main, this makes me feel nice inside.
It's a grohk bock
Try going into a game where Rei uses all her abilities to Grant ad much ult spam, and also a Octavia choosing the ult gen passive. Would be very fun to see.
And makoa with leviathan with moral boost at 3 or raum with ult boost
@@droneshownz1261 Yeah, a full ult team would suffer from insanely powerful diminishing returns. it wouldn't be custom lobby level ult charge.
I use Rei as a damage with healing capabilities quite often, sometimes getting up to 80,000 damage in a single game. It's fun! :D
I never thought I wanted such thing as a Grohk announcer pack so badly
Jokes aside, I can agree wholeheartedly with each placement on this list.
Though, I'm surprised you didn't make any honorable mentions like in the other top list videos.
Personally, I would've added Corvus as a honorable mention, considering that he's already a great flank pocket and he can stun enemies through shields with his Stunning Visage talent
I play seris dmg and she is also a very good off - support character even if you buy resilience she can do a good damage and can play like a flanc
Trying to hit a Vora, Androxus, Evie, Maeve etc do be feeling bad though
same she is great
I miss old school damage Seris. That was fun and used to do dumb amounts of damage.
Seris can get 3500 hp with her card, talent and veteran 3
She is an off tank now lol
7:37 This glorious rant is so true! It's why I sweat when I see a solo healer Ying on my team.
We all love Resonance.
@@elmercy4968 (love)
I had a teammate playing ying and healed 200k and damaged 150k by using FL talent (ranked)
She had her ult every 2seconds it so incredible
I really wanna learn dmg/heal ying (I'm a ying main lol)
@@kpotato2617 That is very much the exception.
@@JABRIEL251 yees I know that's why I was so impressed
Most of yings that I met in ranked and played FL or Resonance talent made me lose because of lack of healing
Funny thing is when I started the video I thought of all the same champions just in different orders lol
I main ying, I'd use dimensional link to teleport to a low health enemy when they run away to finish them off and go for their healer. Yings a great flank support going with a flank using focusing lens and healing the flank with decoys
Honorable mentions:
Raum
Skye
Moji
Octavia
Torvald
Khan
With good talents*
@@NagatosPain I think torvald baseline's a good off support. Crap healer. GREAT lockdown and peel.
@@JackXombi At the moment he is off-tank not off-support. Double flank shredder.
Skyle yes omg
As someone who was once a Furia support main slowly moving over to Rei support main. I absolutely love the Ulti generation it provides me and my teammates... I just wish my teammates would stop being stingy with their Ultis while I play Rei. But everything you say about those two supports are 100% correct. And chain heal when you have level 3 reduced cooldown is ridiculous.
I really wanted my girl skye to appear on the list. I've been using her as an off support to give my flanks (or terminus) a permanent 40% speedboost + heals and its so satisfying to see the entire team move like cockroaches when you turn up the lights.
she's not on the list cuz she's not suport ??
@@ti20g we need top supports that aren’t support champions
@@oinkytheink1228 yeah, that could be a good video
The "homework folder" joke was incredibly
Can you make a video about good team comps?
Ying is the number one champion that I wish I was good with but I actually suck with lol
Keep at it, friend. Practice makes perfect. I also got good with her after permanently switching to gyro and high sensitivities.
if you did best battle healer corvous can pop up as he can only heal one person or more if someone has a mark or two marks with a talent but he has a good talent that allows his knife to stun a enemy for one second but because corvous has a fast fire rate on his primary with nice damage he can secure a kill with it run cronos with deft hands and you can destroy people as you can reload faster to deliver more damage and cronos to reduce his knives cooldown which will take out tanks easier
Wait but every support champ is literally off and main to be honest you can play damage furia if you want and same on others
Technically true but there are champs that are build to main and others to off. Very good example is Grohk, he does pretty well as a main healer, but his whole kit (cards/talents included) makes him much better as a off-support. So, in a way, it's kinda a waste having Grohk as a main healer in your comp since you're not maximizing his potential.
@@Awes731 yeah I bro I know what do you mean
I hope to see Terminus in the off tank list 😤😤😤
As a pip main, honestly andro or some hitscan flank wasn't a proble since we can just jump to our teammates. The only problem is those who can disturb our jump. Buck is one of them
Yo can you make a guide on how to get started at ranked. Like how to go through the transition from casual player to ranked. I seem to stomp on casual
and usually carry but In ranked everyone else is a lot better.
Focus more on team play rather than solo, pick the optimal champion for the situation depending on what champions the enemy has, dont go picking whoever you want unless your the very first or final to pick or your favorite champion vurrently fits a role thats needed, if your banning; ban those that are considered meta like, Androxous or VII or maybe save them for yourself or another teamate if you picking first. Discuss with your team before game for optimal team composition and trading, you have extra time on ranked, only play ranked after unlocking atleast 40 champs, and are decent at most, otherwise you migth get locked out of an important role if you dont own that many champions. And git gud, listen for flanks, aim better, and generally do what your class must do, again you should be more with your team rather than being alone, staying alive and applying pressure is better than getting one kill and then dying yourself.
Bold opinion: off supports, even without a main one, are still good and *can* be better than a solo main healer.
Motive: anti-heal, especially in the end game.
Once anti-heal reaches anywhere above or at 60%, healing becomes way less strong. That's where off supports shine, and that's when, imo, it's better to have a solo off support than a solo main sup.
Would you prefer a mid healing with little to no other buffs or anything like that, or a mid to bad healing, but way more damage?
This is true...
If you're playing in groundmaster lobbies where Cauterize is never dropped
I bet your a ying player
@@awoooga5857 used to main her. nowadays i personally prefer Rei and Lillith.
first, even with cauterize like 90%, a main support is still viable if your tank know how to get out of the cauterize just for 1s
second, off support usually not providing nearly enough dmg, the exception r Furia or Seris, because their base kit healing is high enough even without suppport talent
take Ying as an example, without life exchange, has a poor healing, i would say a Raum with healing talent could have dont better, because her clone healing r suck, even without cauterize, it take soo long to heal a tank to get back in a fight
Grohk is also another example
Ying decent healing ? I think she can do some of the most healing !? I've seen 200k+ And do quite some damage.
I am a pip heal main and i can kinda use him as a main sup he is really good but he really depends on who is playing him and the team comp
as Pip, iirc, u forget to mention 1 of his weakness, is the struggle to hit mobile target, especially flying champ, but ye, that's how almost every projective struggle anyway
ok Im sad that Raum doesnt make his way here
I am learning so much about ying. Imagine not rushing chronos and morale boost ad furia. Couldn't be me and 1 thing I love to do as rei. Envelope ults and see the enemy in pain when their ult is useless against me
im a ying main who never knew she's an off support. I've always used her as a main support so ig no wonder why im always stressed asf but I think i still do good.
my boy grohk lets go
i think Pip can be a main healer with his 3rd talent too. its legit. should try
I’d argue and say Octavia is the only other champion who can increase their teammates ultimate and she can do it for the whole team
Yay Rei is recognised
…we need to buff Ying her illusions, their healing is/feels so damn slow
What? Does it means that if a teammate get linked, he get Dr from the card?
they only get the damage cut from the envelope. the Dr comes from linking enemies.
I used to use pip as a flank
It's still weird for me, that grover is main support and ying is off support. I always saw them in the opposite way
Exactly. Grover is both though, off-support with Feriocity for long range maps and main support for small maps.
same!!! im a ying main and i never knew this i always thought it was the opposite so ive always been ying all by myself with no other supports
well Grover kit allow him to both dealing dmg and heal at the same, so off support or not, usually his playstyle will be the same
Grohk mains are the definition of versatile
I lke playign Dmg Seris and ive hit 100k+ with her in player lobbys. Not to say shes the best but i do like her as a off support
I think seris should be on here she can still be a main healer and go dmg she is insane better then rei atleast.
I hope that jenos is on the list
Yeah he will be.. as a honorable mention.
I bet the list will be:
1. Grohk
2. Lilith
3. Pip
4. Rei
5. Ying
@@panthekirb7561 NO!!! i want jenos
@@mugenmasters8564 OK I was kinda wrong but thats mainly because Lilith isnt as popular as I expected and Andrew allowed himself to use the same champion in both lists, which is smth I thought would be against the rules like in the two top 5 tank lists from a year ago.
@@panthekirb7561 He seems to avoid the champs from the main list though, if it is possible.
if corvus was not bugged then may be he can make up to top 5
Furia is the best off and main support lets not lie
👍
For me damba would be #1, seris #2, pip #3, furia #4 and corvus as #5
Where was Moji?
Where are honorable mentions
Me: *plays main Healer Ying with Resonance*
AndrewChicken, probably: >:C
>:C
Think yings math is off, the attack tales 0.2 seconds so you attack Every 0.7 seconds not 0.5 so there is no way it's 1300 she attacks like 700 dmg per second normally
im a ying main who plays her as a main healer.. oops. anyways i still do a ton of healing.
Love getting bizarre so i can play Rei. XD
I thought my main jenos would be on this list
Why does every pip player decide to play him as a flank and by the end of the match get 1k total healing.
where is damba? he is one of if not the best off healers
List aside, great edits
PIP #1!!! He finally makes it to a list and finally gets some attention... and ying is ranked higher than him :| Pain... I pretty much expected the other champions when I realized you were going for dmg consistency with healing potential(Raum could be on this list lol).
Love the list Andrew also Ying can teleport to her teamates?! I've never seen a ying do that xD.
Also pip sustain is NOT the play btw, maximum movement for the win!
my brother in christ pip is a tank
@@AndrewChicken HOW?!?
:)
i expected to see corvus here
Furia's only weak aspect is her mediocre heal. If she is yet the best main support, she is also the best off support.
Yeah
He classified her as the best supp and it's wrong
She deals damage yes.. but she's far from "the best support"
@@kpotato2617 True. Io is better.
i think jenos is best support and off support in paladins.. *jenos main*
Wow, your're not gonna mention that pip could also give allies 30% movement speed like grohk too? 🙄
It has much less consistency than Grohk's and it's harder to justify using that card when he has so many other important cards like potion radius and Reload.
In all of these so far, the #1 champ has been in the thumbnail, so I'm guessing Grohk is number 1
raum #1 off support
Why is there no honorable mention
Pip is the best off support. My personal opinion
Im a pip main
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
let's be real here, pip only made it onto this list because there are only 5 off supports in the game.
Pip hard as main heal...meh...just max aoe heal and walla easy..
Buff corvus :(
hell no, corvus nmbr 1 off support
Two min intro is a bit long
I am a pip heal main and i can kinda use him as a main sup he is really good but he really depends on who is playing him and the team comp