00:00 Intro 02:42 Hank-TX | Babies for Life? 10:12 Kevin-(CA) | A Scientist Said So! 22:34 Bob-CT | Autistic Atheists Rule 31:12 Patrick-FL | The Universe is Alive! 40:35 Anthony-TX | Believers are not Mentally Ill 56:52 Susan-OR | AI is Evidence for Souls 1:05:41 Richard-NV | I Assert, Therefore God Is 1:14:04 Will-USA | Biblical Slavery Ep.433 1:18:29 Christopher-WA | God’s Prophet Calls AxP 1:27:59 Patrick-MA | God is a Mean Girl 1:29:25 Relic-TX | A Druid’s Tale
@@jimbeam5035 so, this is why the online atheist community has had a reputation for being toxic af. Stop equating religious beliefs with mental illness. Stop talking down to believers as if you are so much more reasonable than them. You aren't. This may surprise you, but there are theists our there that are smarter than you. Atheism isn't a place to couch your toxic traits and obvious arrogance. You don't speak for us.
Once, when I was at a low point in my life, I asked my wife what the point of it all it was. Her response keeps me going to this day: “I have no idea. But we’re here, so let’s enjoy ourselves”
I was a very young child when I heard this question and thought something like "That's easy, whatever we make it." Then I grew up and thought it was much more complicated. Then I grew up more and circled back to my initial belief. Now I think that question is flawed. It's actually asking something more insidious. It's the manifestation for a desire for an authority figure to tell you what to do. It's the result of not being sufficiently supported in your autonomy as a child. It's a form of begging the question in an attempt to justify the existence of authority figures taking your autonomy away. "If authority figures exist and are necessary, why isn't there an even higher authority, that I can actually trust, to tell me what to do to feel better?" "Why are the authority figures in my life insufficient for the purpose I've been told they serve, to control my behavior in a way that maximizes my well being?"
ME God shows what He wants to whom He wants. Guy your god is only in your head my friend. You should forget what you have been indoctrinated into and help us fix the planet that your religion helped tear apart. It's the decent thing to do. Me Tell me what isn't it our heads Guy knowledge of how life and the universe became. But don't worry, we are searching and we no longer have to believe in tales from the iron and bronze age. Me What you said does not contradict what I wrote God shows what He wants to whom He wants. Guy but it does. Your god has nothing to do with the randomness of the universe. It can only fathom what is in your own mind. As a matter of fact, it is your mind, because your mind is afraid of the dark. You can't imagine a world without you in it, so you cling to the hope of everlasting life. But it isn't there, because there is no god. Period. Grow up. Me What you are saying stills does not contradict what I wrote Read it again carefully. God shows what He wants to whom he wants
I had taken a break from watching AE for a while. Coming back I want to say the new format is great, the brief summaries and timestamps in the description are super super useful and much appreciated as well.
What's astounding is that these callers manage to continually outdo themselves insofar as being dishonest, cowardly, evasive and horrifically ignorant. And they manage to hit all four of these marks within just a few minutes of each and every fucking call!--or usually right after the first question they are asked by the hosts.
@@SparkyWaxAll Did you hear about the Republican bill (I forget which state) to fine teachers for teaching science in science class since it contradicts their religion? Completely ridiculous...
He had no clue at all how logic works. If evolution wasn't true (Richard) that does not mean that a giant mothership did not drop everything off here. That would be the same baseless equivocation that a god did it. Evolution is the best model that science has to explain the natural process. It's not saying it knows that is the case. However, you are claiming to know.
To the people who complain about the quality of the theist callers, I would just ask: who do you think would be better? This week's show was the usual dumpster fire of people who run the gamut from confused to demented, but the average believer doesn't have anywhere near as well thought out reasons for believing, relying entirely on faith and upbringing for their beliefs. And professional apologists presenting elaborate, convoluted philosophical arguments that aren't the reason that they or anyone else believes is pointless.
I don't know if it is atypical, but In my life, people have rarely asked my opinion. My guess is that most believers, excluding the RUclips-type crowd, have never been asked why they believe in a god, and have never directed much thought in that direction.
@@andreahughes1155 Easy, we should question everything that sounds like bullshit. My dad once told me we can't question God, and I told him I can't believe in anything I can't question. He did the strangest thing, he looked at me like I was the one who got it wrong, when that is what I was thinking about him. Sometimes children can teach adults.
Personally for myself Tacit I would prefer the later although I do agree with you the elaborate convoluted arguments aren`t the reasons they believe they are still much more intellectual.
It’s tough sledding for theists. You can have a PhD in theology and call in….and your arguments are still just going to be assumptions and claims with word salad as evidence. In other words…..crap. Spoiler alert: it’s mythology. That’s why your arguments suck.
I appreciate Shannon Q’s concern for the last caller’s mental health, and the delicacy with which she broached the subject with him. I hope he listened, despite giving no indication of it during the call.
My sister passed away while one was in 5th grade and one in 8th grade; if I had kids I might not have been able to provide them the attention and support they needed. I didn't need religion to tell me Todo this, my own morality and love for my sister's kids was all that was needed.
✨YES✨👏👏👏👏 This is one of the most important reasons to live: to care for one another. To Love. No one needs Jesus to tell us this. It is in our DNA. Our birthright as a social species. The more I look at this world, the more I'm convinced that atheists hear the internal call, to care, far more clearly than christians do.
@@TreeHairedGingerAle I think Christians and other religious people have the same genetic behaviours to be empathetic and caring, especially of children, as atheists but some religious people who have been damaged by the irrationality that can sometimes, or often comes with religious indoctrination, can cause problems in their interactions with others and the most damage that can be done, is done to children who can’t mentally defend themselves against it. Like the fear induced by the Devil character, that the god character allows to run rampant, in the fairytale.
@@paddlefar9175 Exactly! 👍That's why I said that atheists hear that call 'more clearly'. Their inborn drives are not muddied by toxic dogmas that label humans as evil and 'worthless' from birth. They have not been conditioned to worship an abusive, authoritarian deity that proves as a _terrible_ "example" of how to think about and treat others.
Kevin, Einstein believed that the universe was static, Isaac Newton believed in alchemy and humors. Brilliant scientists have been very wrong about things. Pointing to scientists who believed in some version of God is of no consequence.
@@louiscyfer6944 That is misleading and we should leave that to the theists. The full quote is "From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. … It is always misleading to use anthropomorphical concepts in dealing with these outside of the human sphere - childish analogies,”. He was saying that a Jesuit priest would regard him as an atheist. He was critical of atheists as being too forceful in their non-belief. He referred to himself as an agnostic. “I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.” Back in Einstein's say, atheism was generally thought of as asserting that no gods existed. Today, most atheists are Agnostic Atheists, seeing no evidence for gods and so no reason to believe in them but not asserting the unknowable, that no gods can possibly exist. On today's definition, Einstein was definitely an Agnostic Atheist.
@@Illawong exactly. the reason he said that was to point out that people who were using him as an example of believing in god did not understand his position.
@@IllawongBack when people considered atheists as “people who didn’t believe in god” did they have a concept of god that was more just a place holder “we don’t know yet”?
Richard: "I cannot go 300 miles doing 80 miles per hour, it's not logically possible." Logic: P1: I can travel 80 miles per hour. (I have done this in a Toyota Corolla as proof.) P2: I can travel 300 miles. (I have travelled more than 300 miles in said Toyota Corolla as proof.) C: I can travel 300 miles at 80 miles per hour. That, Richard, is how logic works.
Kevin has clearly never watched the show. He came out the gate with the classics theist "arguments". I swear, the Albert Einstein card has been played at least a thousand times on this show alone over the years. "Someone smarted than you and I agreed with me, so... I win."
Well, according to IQ scores, I should be running circles around Einstein, but nope, I can't come up with nothing as world changing!! Derp de derp duh hey!!
@@LettersAndNumbers300 Why did I roll my eyes? It was a physiological reflex to hearing someone with very little apparent understanding of what software is, trying to project it on the universe. It was ridiculous. Please don't conflate that reaction to those software/universe statements as an actual opinion of Susan herself. As the call went on, she demonstrated honesty and a willingness to listen. Traits not always present in other callers. It was appreciated. At least by me. Did that help?
I find software very interesting. In its written form it looks very much like human language but software can be printed out in the form of ones and zeros each character of which represents the state of a transistor switch (a state that is often transient). The difference between switch setting and switch existence seems to me quite analogous to the difference between mind and brain. This raises questions like, how much does our being conscious depend on our ability to think in the analogies of language?
Personal opinion: this is my favourite pairing. I love the diversity of voices the ACA has but for me something really clicks with how these two handle callers
Hank’s comment about Shannon’s looks is hilarious. I guess he’s not aware that most Scandinavian countries are predominantly atheist, and people in the Nordics are overwhelmingly gorgeous? To be fair, people who start a conversation like hank did are probably not very well-traveled.
And within a minute of his chuckely opening diatribe, you can tell he is totally full of shit. An atheist for 52 years , then goes to seminary school? Believes because of personal revelation? Oh please.
Caller Will: אחזה means hold on or grip. In the OT it was used to refer to ownership / property but it was never limited to land property. Can you tell me why in Leviticus 25-44 it calls them slaves and uses the word וְעַבְדְּךָ֥ (and your slaves) root word עבד (slave)? How did you miss this part?
Richard-NV: He returns to call in after 6 months. WTF was his last call like? And he has the nerve to say Matt is a very illogical person. One of the goofiest calls I've heard on the show.
1:14:56 I'm a Hebrew speaker, and that's either dishonest or extremely confused. We derive the meaning of many words from the Bible. We see words in the bible and incorporate them into our everyday life. Even if "אחוזה" or "ahuza" means land property today, it doesn't mean it did in the bible. As it happens, the word "ahuza" comes from the root "ahaz" which literally means "to grip". The word "ahuza" literally translates to "gripped stuff". It's extremely easy to interpret the meaning of the word within the context. The slave is a "gripped thing", aka property.
@Nel G Factually untrue. There was a caller that said that his christain parents _encouraged_ his delusions and schizophrenia. They believed he was directly speaking to god and satan and he wasnt treated for his symptoms well into his adult life. Christianity is often bad for your mental health.
57:43 GPT-3 is just a very fancy text predictor, not a sentient being. It does have memory though, including long-term memory (if you adjust it so). It does not "feel" anything, it merely predicts what comes after following a user input. Increasing parameter count only makes it more capable of emulating "realistic" output.
So Susan, if you meet a person who has no tendency towards kindness or altruism, that is entirely selfish (lets say a sociopath). Does this mean they have no soul? Because if you still think they have a soul, then you trying to define an AI having a soul doing those doesn't make any sense.
Why is it that people say they have had some personal connection or visitation from a supernatural god or goddess ....yet they only have short meaningless conversations with them and then claim a few little weird things happened that felt positive......yet they never ask these gods questions to confirm or get a positive confirmation or better understanding of who these supposedly important visitors really are... and what they want? As this would be the normal practice we do when any complete stranger visits us unannounced. Hmmm...strange stuff
@@relicglennfae4583 Friend if you need this type of hierarchically delusional and supernatural things to make you feel happy and at peace then that's cool with me ...but it doesn't sound anything more than personal thought creation and projection to me. But hey... having lived and worked around the world, truth is humans can personally believe or can be convinced to believe in all sorts of weird wonderful but ultimately provable or unprovable stuff ....so I guess it's a case of whatever floats your boat!
The satisfaction of the “well you can tell the Holy Spirit to go fuck himself” clip making the “things you may have missed” made my entire week. Lol 😆 that was my favorite moment in last weeks show. 😂
Wow thanks for cutting off Hank immediately. Theist sexism is so tiresome. Strong start for a show. =D Edit: that was unfair. Any sexism, atheist or theist is tiresome.
Really. It's as unacceptable to slobber all over someone's looks as it is to mock them for the configuration of their face. It's uninvited, unwanted criticism over a person's appearance and that's just gross in any case.
Poor Wil from USA, wants to have his slaves and beat it too. Just pathetic. "But but maybe the bible doesn't say slavery because-" "Can you pass people you own to your kids?" "Derrrrrrrrrrrrr yes" Matt, for the 50th time "no no no no no".
The great thing about being an animal with advanced reasoning and language skills, in an age where our words can reach many others, is that there is a lot more information we can pass on in the world than just our genetic information. Our identity also carries forth through our actions. The effects we have on others. The lives and opinions you change carry "you" onwards, rippling out through humanity, potentially forever.
An emeritis professor of Philosophy at Berkley, Dr. Benjamin (Ben) Dover was once asked by a student during a class of 250 freshmen if he believed in god. Dr. Dover is said to have written on the blackboard: Epicuris from 140BC said: "Either god is unable to stop natural disasters, doesn't care to, or doesn't exist. Therefore either god is impotent, evil, or imaginary." Whereupon he turned to his class and was reported to have said: "And a god that doesn't prevent people from getting killed in natural disasters deserves neither my respect nor my worship." [ Q. E. D. ] I concur. If, as I expect you theists will, try to sidestep the brilliant display of logic presented above and ignore the obvious answer you will demonstrate, yet again how dishonest theists are. Only maybe 1 out of 1,000 is able to be brutally honest with himself or herself. I mean brutally honest....no dancing around the subject. No beating around the bush. I've just proved that there is no god. That there has never been a god. Either you theists accept the truth or you continue on with your wishful thinking. It's up to you and how honest you care to be. A scientist that also believes in a god isn't really a scientist because that individual is unable to follow the evidence. I doubt that you are, as very few are. I expect you theists to ignore the obvious and continue on with your delusion because that's what 99% of theists do. Now each of you individually have a choice to make. Accept the obvious or fail as an ignorant primate.
I'm pretty sure that his last request (the 3 extra cards drawn) is proof that he was calling to troll. Seriously, asking Matt what the cards are after he held them up? I don't believe that he was seriously expecting to trick Matt unless he is incredibly stupid.
I'm an atheist and I've watched probably one hundred episodes [for the better part of a decade] of the Atheist Experience and I'm a supporter. I actually owe this show for giving me the strength to address my doubt with being a theist. Having said that, I call things as I see them and Patrick was absolutely correct when he stated that he wasn't afforded an opportunity to respond. Watch his session again and you might be appalled at the lack of respect he is given. For example, Shannon asked him to offer evidence that the universe is conscious and he wasn't allowed to answer before Matt jumped in with several more points to digest and Matt actually stated that Patrick didn't answer her question. Shannon did the same thing and I'm not trying to assign blame, rather inform the hosts that the viewers shouldn't feel that we're watching an interrogation, but an honest and open discussion from TWO SIDES, not one. I have a vast amount of respect for Matt and Shannon, but the callers need to be treated as humans, not inferior animals. That responsibility falls upon the hosts. Hopefully, this post won't be deleted and it will be received as constructive criticism and a few minutes can be spent thinking about my comments here. Aside from this post, thank you to The Atheist Experience for all that you've accomplished and offered to humanity. Your work has affected my life significantly and that has in turn affected lives of strangers and others in my circle. Have an eye opening life!
If Kevin came back in a week with good arguments, he'd have to have concluded that belief in god isn't logical without evidence and would have shed his belief.
If Kevin could somehow prove god next week. That means this week he believed in god based on no evidence, and atheists would be in the correct position for withholding belief until there was evidence.
@@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding I mean they think a 2,000 year old dead guy is gonna show up one day and take them all to paradise, so I think maybe you’re expecting a lot by thinking they would learn eventually. It’s kinda their defining characteristic.
Kudos to Matt for this episode! Was on his best behavior, tried to have actual dialogues, didn't interrupt much and was generally pleasant, all of which benefits the show. Shannon was awesome as per usual.
“The universe is literally god” What does that mean? What is a god and how do we know it’s “the universe”? “Well personally it’s a guess from a human standpoint” Failed at “personally”. This isn’t about your feelings. You can’t tell us what a god is but you expect us to accept it as true because you have a feeling?
Oh boy - Richard seems to be a graduate of the new private university that Professor Mike Lindell has opened in Dogpatch, Alabama. Its motto is "Quis cerebrum eget usquam?" Fees are $150,000 a year (cash only - no cheques accepted). Principal is Ezekiel Q Braynedamage PhD Oxford (Arkansas). Professor Lindell says: "It's a real classy place. We got knives and forks and everything, and a couple of the teachers have actually read books and stuff." The head of Science Studies is Doctor the Right Honourable Reverend Sir Kent Hovind MSc, OM, VC, BS, ROFL. "What he knows about the oranges of life is just incredible", says His Imperial Majesty and Royal Highness Professor the Viscount Lindell C.R.A.C.K., Lord of the Isles, President of UNESCO, Lord of the Flies. "I even had to look up how to spell "evverlooshian" before I wroted it down on the corrickerlum".
apologists, priests and other scoundrels have somewhat succeeded in closing off any real conversations, by preaching their snakeoil about evolution to their easily confounded (weak in logic) religiously indoctrinated cohort. i could only reason a little better myself even after i stopped believing, until AXP showed me what it's truly about. before that i only had glimpses of logical falacies and thought that it's mostly esoterical stuff from philosophers. i did have my computing background to help me connect the dots in fundamental logic, which is almost everything you need to know, besides science methods to check premises. it's all too easy for the religiously strongly subscribed to fall for the false logic peddled to them, so they dont have to think or change. if only Richard could learn to suspend his theism even temporarily--rather than a foregone conclusion of god, so the door on truth/reality could open a little.
44:42 This *fact* here, is the reason why so many people that I know are theists. Not saying it's the majority (or even a plurality) that feel this way. It's just what I've found in my personal experience of speaking w/ believers & fence-sitters... over & over again. & that's pretty encouraging to me, actually. It used to discourage me, until I realized that just a couple decades ago, they wouldn't have admitted to that being the case at all; whether true or not.
1:01:30 Susan’s in depth explanation’s end (the quick “ya know”) and Matt’s “No I don’t know…” should make the cut as one of the Funny moments in next weeks episode of “things you may have missed.” Thumbs up if you agree. 😆
Pretty sure Will is that guy Matt debated a while ago that just put up a video of him talking to an academic and stating he didn't have a chance to prepare properly
I'm the only person in my family who is an Atheist, and I'm autistic (diagnosed as Asperger's). In my experience, almost everyone I know with ASD is also Atheist, with the exception of 1 person, who is hyper-fixated on religion.
I am an Aspie as well, and have also noticed that other Aspies I've met have also tended towards non-belief. I suspect it's because Aspie brains tends to find comfort and familiarity in applying logic to as much of their existence and worldview as possible, and religion is simply not a subject able to withstand the majority of logical assessment. I have not personally met an Aspie with religious beliefs, but I do know one individual who is very prone towards conspiracy theories and conspiratorial thinking in general, our conversations have never been particularly productive or agreeable.
My son, brother, and FIL are ASD (what would have been considered Asperger's, but trying to avoid using that term). My son is atheist, my brother is hard core Christian, my father-in-law is Christian by default. I have two other friends who also fall into that part of the spectrum and both are evangelical. I think it's much like any other person's experience, in that one's upbringing lays the groundwork. It's a source of comfort for my brother. I don't think my FIL has ever thought about it.
@@patrickjones2379 Thank you for your input. Perhaps we are being overly anecdotal, and those with ASD are much like anyone else, in that their differences and similarities are as vast and distributed as any other demographic.
Agreed ✨🖖🏾 The meaning of Life is to LIVE. Community, Collaboration, Creation, Self-expression, Self-Discovery, Learning, Pleasure....all wonderful things that you can't engage in when you're dead. It's not about yelling 'YOLO', and abusing others because 'nothing matters'. It's about choosing what matters based on truth, and based on your values. It's about not wasting precious time on lies, being authentic instead of afraid, and making the most of who you are and exploring who you can be, in this particular world, at this particular time. When done right, both you and the world come out the better for it all. When you're led by lies? _Disaster._
I thought I was going to hear one of my favorite analogies about software vs hardware: Question 1: Can you have hardware without software? A: Yes, a lawnmower, a regular bicycle, and a pencil are all examples of hardware without software Question 2: Can you have software without hardware? A: That is not possible. Software must exist on some media. It must be stored on some memory chip or storage device somewhere. Even if its spread across the internet, it cannot exist without hardware. if you destroy the device (or devices) that its stored on, you will destroy the software as well. Isn't your "soul" the software inside your brain? Your brain will still exist for a while after you die as a corpse. The "software" that is you will be destroyed as well. Too bad we can't yet upload it to the web or at least a back up hard drive. Writing a book is also an idea for recording our "Software" but it only scratches the service.
@Loki Hey that is a great point. In that moment, it only exists as radio waves. But you can detect it and decode it ,but only with some sort of hardware.
Lets be clear about this, I read Hebrew and the word means property (non-specifically but it IS used to determine who has property of land) so that is where he got it from. Land owner is the word he's confusing with property owner and his idea that "they are your land" makes no sense what so ever.
Actually, it seems even worse to me. By using that word, the bible is treating slaves as no different from or better than land. So equating people with land somehow means that the bible does not treat slaves badly?
These conversations are often repetitive but great viewing: its always energized & stimulating because its a different mug each time. Must admire the hosts, how do they continue ? they visibly express a lot of stress getting the same old BS.
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. For me the unadulterated Jewish religion is, like all other religions, an incarnation of primitive superstition." "It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it." "A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man." Albert Einstein, 1954 ("God Letter")
Susan represents the average human who doesn't think about what they're saying more critically. And when someone urges them to do that they get so confused.
"It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool."ed by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.” "Be Excellent To Each Other" (Bill & Ted)
Richard's way of trying to prove the unprovable is the way someone at my work argues every point (very religious person by the way). Other than accent, this was almost word for word his daily arguments for any point - "this my son is an example of a brain on gawd"
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl And this shows us how we end up with the dumbest conspiracy theories that are currently out there (that we can laugh about, over family suppers) and it explains how people like him think that they suddenly have such real understanding of how some complicated issue works, yet have no education or real understanding of the issue at all, but are absolutely convinced that they do, and with a bizarre level of confidence, that is puzzling. It’s because they know so little and are so uninformed or misinformed, that they can’t even realize how wrong and clueless they really are. It can be a real problem nowadays.
@@paddlefar9175 You're completly right. Is it a phenomenon only or are we going to have "these people" (we can not generalize and there are many different "types" of people who are confident in their far fetched believes) for a longer time around? I'm afraid the latter is right and that's awful for us all as a "functioning" society, what normally sorts out such "mass phenomenons", or at least makes them less impactful.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl Yes it's calked the Dunning-Kruger effect, bias that people who have no expertise or knowledge in a subject but they have misplaced confidence in such a subject
I used to wonder the attraction to church and worship. But if those people feel the energy and the exchange between the audience and artist at something like a Metallica show, then I kinda get it a little bit. I feel something like an other - worldly experience when I attend great concerts. So now I kinda get how Christians think there are souls and spirituality when they may have similar experiences with church and Jesus as i have had with Mick and Keith or Eddie Van Halen lifting up 30,000 people with the magic of his playing.
And many an artist has had followers that felt the lyrics were intended for them personally and were pretty convinced of that. Religion may rely on the same mechanism in similar varying ways from extremely mild to full cuckoo.
Jon Steingard (ex Christian, former singer in Christian rock band 'Hawk Nelson') talks about this on his YT channel. Says he thought it was odd that he got the same feeling of 'elation' from a Coldplay concert.
00:00 Intro
02:42 Hank-TX | Babies for Life?
10:12 Kevin-(CA) | A Scientist Said So!
22:34 Bob-CT | Autistic Atheists Rule
31:12 Patrick-FL | The Universe is Alive!
40:35 Anthony-TX | Believers are not Mentally Ill
56:52 Susan-OR | AI is Evidence for Souls
1:05:41 Richard-NV | I Assert, Therefore God Is
1:14:04 Will-USA | Biblical Slavery Ep.433
1:18:29 Christopher-WA | God’s Prophet Calls AxP
1:27:59 Patrick-MA | God is a Mean Girl
1:29:25 Relic-TX | A Druid’s Tale
Thank you time stamp person/s
@@relicglennfae4583 please, go see a doctor. Get diagnosed, and take some medicine. You need help
@@relicglennfae4583 no one who is crazy thinks they are crazy. You are out of your mind. Please get professional help. You need it.
@@relicglennfae4583 Everyone here thinks you need help. Even Shannon mentioned it. Lol. It’s okay. Youre batshit crazy. Go seek professional help.
@@jimbeam5035 so, this is why the online atheist community has had a reputation for being toxic af. Stop equating religious beliefs with mental illness. Stop talking down to believers as if you are so much more reasonable than them. You aren't. This may surprise you, but there are theists our there that are smarter than you. Atheism isn't a place to couch your toxic traits and obvious arrogance. You don't speak for us.
Once, when I was at a low point in my life, I asked my wife what the point of it all it was. Her response keeps me going to this day: “I have no idea. But we’re here, so let’s enjoy ourselves”
That in a nut shell is what lifes all about the myriad of experiences that's there on offer and to enjoy it.
Your wife made a wonderful remark
I was a very young child when I heard this question and thought something like "That's easy, whatever we make it."
Then I grew up and thought it was much more complicated.
Then I grew up more and circled back to my initial belief.
Now I think that question is flawed. It's actually asking something more insidious. It's the manifestation for a desire for an authority figure to tell you what to do. It's the result of not being sufficiently supported in your autonomy as a child.
It's a form of begging the question in an attempt to justify the existence of authority figures taking your autonomy away.
"If authority figures exist and are necessary, why isn't there an even higher authority, that I can actually trust, to tell me what to do to feel better?"
"Why are the authority figures in my life insufficient for the purpose I've been told they serve, to control my behavior in a way that maximizes my well being?"
Matt and Shannon are one of my favorite duos, always a great show!
ME God shows what He wants to whom He wants.
Guy your god is only in your head my friend. You should forget what you have been indoctrinated into and help us fix the planet that your religion helped tear apart. It's the decent thing to do.
Me Tell me what isn't it our heads
Guy knowledge of how life and the universe became. But don't worry, we are searching and we no longer have to believe in tales from the iron and bronze age.
Me What you said does not contradict what I wrote God shows what He wants to whom He wants.
Guy but it does. Your god has nothing to do with the randomness of the universe. It can only fathom what is in your own mind. As a matter of fact, it is your mind, because your mind is afraid of the dark. You can't imagine a world without you in it, so you cling to the hope of everlasting life. But it isn't there, because there is no god. Period. Grow up.
Me What you are saying stills does not contradict what I wrote Read it again carefully. God shows what He wants to whom he wants
I had taken a break from watching AE for a while. Coming back I want to say the new format is great, the brief summaries and timestamps in the description are super super useful and much appreciated as well.
Matt and Shannon are a terrific team that keeps the callers on their toes.
The first one didn't even get a chance to get his shoes off for being an idiot!!! (
Absolutely
One thing I love about Matt is that he doesn't let people gish-gallop.
1:25:00 If god demonstrably LIED to him, TWICE, how does he know that god is not lying to him ALL THE TIME?
Richard gets my vote for the most hard headed irrational caller of the month.
What's astounding is that these callers manage to continually outdo themselves insofar as being dishonest, cowardly, evasive and horrifically ignorant.
And they manage to hit all four of these marks within just a few minutes of each and every fucking call!--or usually right after the first question they are asked by the hosts.
@@casparuskruger4807 ...and they want to either be in gov't or vote for those like them.
@@SparkyWaxAll Did you hear about the Republican bill (I forget which state) to fine teachers for teaching science in science class since it contradicts their religion? Completely ridiculous...
@@Akira-jd2zr 🤯 what the fuck
He had no clue at all how logic works. If evolution wasn't true (Richard) that does not mean that a giant mothership did not drop everything off here. That would be the same baseless equivocation that a god did it. Evolution is the best model that science has to explain the natural process. It's not saying it knows that is the case. However, you are claiming to know.
To the people who complain about the quality of the theist callers, I would just ask: who do you think would be better? This week's show was the usual dumpster fire of people who run the gamut from confused to demented, but the average believer doesn't have anywhere near as well thought out reasons for believing, relying entirely on faith and upbringing for their beliefs. And professional apologists presenting elaborate, convoluted philosophical arguments that aren't the reason that they or anyone else believes is pointless.
I don't know if it is atypical, but In my life, people have rarely asked my opinion. My guess is that most believers, excluding the RUclips-type crowd, have never been asked why they believe in a god, and have never directed much thought in that direction.
Yes, talked to a 61 year old believer who had never met an athiest. When pressed she had no real actual awnser. Just " how can we question god?"
@@andreahughes1155 Easy, we should question everything that sounds like bullshit. My dad once told me we can't question God, and I told him I can't believe in anything I can't question. He did the strangest thing, he looked at me like I was the one who got it wrong, when that is what I was thinking about him. Sometimes children can teach adults.
Personally for myself Tacit I would prefer the later although I do agree with you the elaborate convoluted arguments aren`t the reasons they believe they are still much more intellectual.
It’s tough sledding for theists. You can have a PhD in theology and call in….and your arguments are still just going to be assumptions and claims with word salad as evidence. In other words…..crap.
Spoiler alert: it’s mythology. That’s why your arguments suck.
I appreciate Shannon Q’s concern for the last caller’s mental health, and the delicacy with which she broached the subject with him. I hope he listened, despite giving no indication of it during the call.
In a word,a reason to stick around on this planet is " discovery". It's fun , and downright awe inspiring.
Abosuletly! Always remember to QUESTION EVERYTHING!
If I had to choose between experiencing and not experiencing, I think I'd choose the former more often than not
Great answer
@@jane-marie3289
Why? 😉
@@jonstrummer6930 Well played, love it!
My sister passed away while one was in 5th grade and one in 8th grade; if I had kids I might not have been able to provide them the attention and support they needed. I didn't need religion to tell me Todo this, my own morality and love for my sister's kids was all that was needed.
✨YES✨👏👏👏👏
This is one of the most important reasons to live: to care for one another. To Love.
No one needs Jesus to tell us this. It is in our DNA. Our birthright as a social species.
The more I look at this world, the more I'm convinced that atheists hear the internal call, to care, far more clearly than christians do.
@@TreeHairedGingerAle I think Christians and other religious people have the same genetic behaviours to be empathetic and caring, especially of children, as atheists but some religious people who have been damaged by the irrationality that can sometimes, or often comes with religious indoctrination, can cause problems in their interactions with others and the most damage that can be done, is done to children who can’t mentally defend themselves against it. Like the fear induced by the Devil character, that the god character allows to run rampant, in the fairytale.
@@paddlefar9175 Exactly! 👍That's why I said that atheists hear that call 'more clearly'.
Their inborn drives are not muddied by toxic dogmas that label humans as evil and 'worthless' from birth. They have not been conditioned to worship an abusive, authoritarian deity that proves as a _terrible_ "example" of how to think about and treat others.
@@TreeHairedGingerAle Yes, I agreed with your first two sentences easily. I get what you mean now in your last sentence.
“I guess God is fickle as fuuuuuck when it comes to card tricks” Shannon’s got me snort laughing oh man it hurts thanks for that 😂
Kevin, Einstein believed that the universe was static, Isaac Newton believed in alchemy and humors. Brilliant scientists have been very wrong about things. Pointing to scientists who believed in some version of God is of no consequence.
actually, you can counter kevin with a quote by einstein. "i am and have always been an atheist".
Einstein was constantly frustrated by people quoting him out of context. His use of God was metaphorical but has been used dishonestly.
@@louiscyfer6944 That is misleading and we should leave that to the theists. The full quote is "From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and have always been an atheist. … It is always misleading to use anthropomorphical concepts in dealing with these outside of the human sphere - childish analogies,”. He was saying that a Jesuit priest would regard him as an atheist. He was critical of atheists as being too forceful in their non-belief. He referred to himself as an agnostic. “I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being.”
Back in Einstein's say, atheism was generally thought of as asserting that no gods existed. Today, most atheists are Agnostic Atheists, seeing no evidence for gods and so no reason to believe in them but not asserting the unknowable, that no gods can possibly exist. On today's definition, Einstein was definitely an Agnostic Atheist.
@@Illawong exactly. the reason he said that was to point out that people who were using him as an example of believing in god did not understand his position.
@@IllawongBack when people considered atheists as “people who didn’t believe in god” did they have a concept of god that was more just a place holder “we don’t know yet”?
“Incoherent gibberish…” Richard was accurately describing himself!
Richard: "I cannot go 300 miles doing 80 miles per hour, it's not logically possible."
Logic:
P1: I can travel 80 miles per hour. (I have done this in a Toyota Corolla as proof.)
P2: I can travel 300 miles. (I have travelled more than 300 miles in said Toyota Corolla as proof.)
C: I can travel 300 miles at 80 miles per hour.
That, Richard, is how logic works.
One thing that all gods have in common - a deck of cards is their kryptonite.
Lmao!
Every time Matt raises a card i lose it 😂
Every time the card comes up, something outrageous is about to happen and I love it!!!
Or God just doesn't play silly games.
@@laurenferris2223 God doesn't seem to play anything at all, let alone silly games.
I think I finally have got to the point where I don't even want God to be true anymore... The both of you have helped so much
"Richard, you are not equipped for this conversation."
I see a Title here for a later clip from TAE.
Kevin has clearly never watched the show. He came out the gate with the classics theist "arguments". I swear, the Albert Einstein card has been played at least a thousand times on this show alone over the years. "Someone smarted than you and I agreed with me, so... I win."
Well, according to IQ scores, I should be running circles around Einstein, but nope, I can't come up with nothing as world changing!! Derp de derp duh hey!!
@@marcosolo6491 i am not sure he was...just not very bright
@@Bob-of-Zoid this is the lamest humble-brag I’ve seen in ages.
"Multipletude." That pretty much sums that call up.
@@Mmmmilo That's because it wasn't a humble brag! It was to point out that IQ isn't everything!
Thanks for reinforcing my point!
OMG, when Susan was talking about software analogous to the universe, I rolled my eyes so hard, it physically hurt.
Uhm…why?
Me too. One rolled so hard it went down the back of my throat and I ate it. Bummer.
@@LettersAndNumbers300 Why did I roll my eyes? It was a physiological reflex to hearing someone with very little apparent understanding of what software is, trying to project it on the universe. It was ridiculous.
Please don't conflate that reaction to those software/universe statements as an actual opinion of Susan herself. As the call went on, she demonstrated honesty and a willingness to listen. Traits not always present in other callers. It was appreciated. At least by me.
Did that help?
I find software very interesting.
In its written form it looks very much like human language but
software can be printed out in the form of ones and zeros
each character of which represents the state of a transistor switch
(a state that is often transient).
The difference between switch setting and switch existence seems to me
quite analogous to the difference between mind and brain.
This raises questions like,
how much does our being conscious depend on our ability
to think in the analogies of language?
And is there any difference between being and
being conscious?
Never get tired of that song 🎶 I sing along every time
Me too
Entertaining show today. Very funny callers -especially Christopher.
Yeah that call went from serious theist to WTF(?) by the end
I'm sure he would have guessed 7 of hearts correctly eventually. Matt just had to give him 47 more chances and remove cards as they're drawn.
And everyone else isnt ‘the most intellectual’ jfc….
@@marcosolo6491
Which callers do you think are atheist prank callers and why?
@ 17:48
I love you Shannon.
You didn't let Kevin go away confused and frustrated.
You are a wise person, sister.
Personal opinion: this is my favourite pairing. I love the diversity of voices the ACA has but for me something really clicks with how these two handle callers
Bob, you are a great listen, I can relate, and I have been wanting to hear these hosts give their thoughts on this, so thank you for calling
Mr. Dillahunty is on exceptional form lately.
Hank’s comment about Shannon’s looks is hilarious. I guess he’s not aware that most Scandinavian countries are predominantly atheist, and people in the Nordics are overwhelmingly gorgeous? To be fair, people who start a conversation like hank did are probably not very well-traveled.
Shannon is from Canada.
@@doneestoner9945 That was not M Milo's point where Shannon is from.
@@doneestoner9945 maybe read my comment again, eh?
Welcome to America.....
By who’s standards?
Love how Christopher calls out the questionable intelligence of other theist callers. 🤦🏻♂️
And within a minute of his chuckely opening diatribe, you can tell he is totally full of shit. An atheist for 52 years , then goes to seminary school? Believes because of personal revelation? Oh please.
"Jesus existed" so did every preacher for every other imaginable deity.....where did that get us Kevin
Thank you both
I enjoyed the show very much today
Great show as always guys, loved the pace and variety of calls.
😘
You both are way to smart to be dealing with these callers.
Caller Will: אחזה means hold on or grip. In the OT it was used to refer to ownership / property but it was never limited to land property.
Can you tell me why in Leviticus 25-44 it calls them slaves and uses the word וְעַבְדְּךָ֥ (and your slaves) root word עבד (slave)? How did you miss this part?
Richard-NV: He returns to call in after 6 months. WTF was his last call like? And he has the nerve to say Matt is a very illogical person. One of the goofiest calls I've heard on the show.
I'd love to know how he ruled out a race of ancient aliens seeding the earth as a possible explanation for life on this planet.
@@shelbyvillerules9962 it was an egg sandwich dropped by a time traveling wizard
@@shelbyvillerules9962 - You're just a very illogical person... 😜
Richard doesn’t understand the burden he assumes when he says it’s impossible.
1:14:56
I'm a Hebrew speaker, and that's either dishonest or extremely confused. We derive the meaning of many words from the Bible. We see words in the bible and incorporate them into our everyday life. Even if "אחוזה" or "ahuza" means land property today, it doesn't mean it did in the bible.
As it happens, the word "ahuza" comes from the root "ahaz" which literally means "to grip". The word "ahuza" literally translates to "gripped stuff". It's extremely easy to interpret the meaning of the word within the context. The slave is a "gripped thing", aka property.
Talking to God and hearing his voice is signs of schizophrenia
@Nel G Factually untrue. There was a caller that said that his christain parents _encouraged_ his delusions and schizophrenia. They believed he was directly speaking to god and satan and he wasnt treated for his symptoms well into his adult life.
Christianity is often bad for your mental health.
There’s nothing that makes the show more enjoyable than when Shannon laughs yes
Matts spontaneous segue to the recently on ACA promo, was a thing of subtle beauty. 👌
My favorite two hosts!!! This is great......
First caller was the most hillbilly trash i've heard, impressed he knew how to use a phone.
Wow what a mixed bag of humanity this week, obviously non of them card players 🤣 great show Shannon and Matt.
This episode had such weird vibes. What a cast of characters we were subjected to.
The videos description is hilarious. 1 cookie only, oat and raisins hahahahha
1:26:29 - This theist actually tried to guess the cards from god 😂 props for trying though, most would run away or tap dance
57:43
GPT-3 is just a very fancy text predictor, not a sentient being. It does have memory though, including long-term memory (if you adjust it so). It does not "feel" anything, it merely predicts what comes after following a user input.
Increasing parameter count only makes it more capable of emulating "realistic" output.
So Susan, if you meet a person who has no tendency towards kindness or altruism, that is entirely selfish (lets say a sociopath). Does this mean they have no soul? Because if you still think they have a soul, then you trying to define an AI having a soul doing those doesn't make any sense.
Why is it that people say they have had some personal connection or visitation from a supernatural god or goddess ....yet they only have short meaningless conversations with them and then claim a few little weird things happened that felt positive......yet they never ask these gods questions to confirm or get a positive confirmation or better understanding of who these supposedly important visitors really are... and what they want?
As this would be the normal practice we do when any complete stranger visits us unannounced.
Hmmm...strange stuff
@@relicglennfae4583 Friend if you need this type of hierarchically delusional and supernatural things to make you feel happy and at peace then that's cool with me ...but it doesn't sound anything more than personal thought creation and projection to me.
But hey... having lived and worked around the world, truth is humans can personally believe or can be convinced to believe in all sorts of weird wonderful but ultimately provable or unprovable stuff ....so I guess it's a case of whatever floats your boat!
@@relicglennfae4583 you need help… please seek guidance.
The satisfaction of the “well you can tell the Holy Spirit to go fuck himself” clip making the “things you may have missed” made my entire week. Lol 😆 that was my favorite moment in last weeks show. 😂
Wow thanks for cutting off Hank immediately. Theist sexism is so tiresome. Strong start for a show. =D
Edit: that was unfair. Any sexism, atheist or theist is tiresome.
Ugh he gave me major creeper vibes. So gross. 🤮
Really. It's as unacceptable to slobber all over someone's looks as it is to mock them for the configuration of their face. It's uninvited, unwanted criticism over a person's appearance and that's just gross in any case.
Poor Wil from USA, wants to have his slaves and beat it too.
Just pathetic.
"But but maybe the bible doesn't say slavery because-"
"Can you pass people you own to your kids?"
"Derrrrrrrrrrrrr yes"
Matt, for the 50th time "no no no no no".
The first call was epic LOL the rest entertaining as well, good show!
The great thing about being an animal with advanced reasoning and language skills, in an age where our words can reach many others, is that there is a lot more information we can pass on in the world than just our genetic information. Our identity also carries forth through our actions. The effects we have on others. The lives and opinions you change carry "you" onwards, rippling out through humanity, potentially forever.
Shannon: "God's fickle as fuck when it comes to card tricks." 🤣🤣🤣
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An emeritis professor of Philosophy at Berkley, Dr. Benjamin (Ben) Dover was once asked by a student during a class of 250 freshmen if he believed in god. Dr. Dover is said to have written on the blackboard: Epicuris from 140BC said: "Either god is unable to stop natural disasters, doesn't care to, or doesn't exist. Therefore either god is impotent, evil, or imaginary." Whereupon he turned to his class and was reported to have said: "And a god that doesn't prevent people from getting killed in natural disasters deserves neither my respect nor my worship." [ Q. E. D. ] I concur. If, as I expect you theists will, try to sidestep the brilliant display of logic presented above and ignore the obvious answer you will demonstrate, yet again how dishonest theists are. Only maybe 1 out of 1,000 is able to be brutally honest with himself or herself. I mean brutally honest....no dancing around the subject. No beating around the bush.
I've just proved that there is no god. That there has never been a god. Either you theists accept the truth or you continue on with your wishful thinking. It's up to you and how honest you care to be. A scientist that also believes in a god isn't really a scientist because that individual is unable to follow the evidence. I doubt that you are, as very few are. I expect you theists to ignore the obvious and continue on with your delusion because that's what 99% of theists do. Now each of you individually have a choice to make. Accept the obvious or fail as an ignorant primate.
1:12:14 you just set up a false dichotomy...
To be fair, I’m pretty sure ‘7 of hearts’ means ‘8 of clubs’ in Hebrew.
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Bullshitter
AXP needs an instant playback., so they can play for callers what they just said.
Matt: What card?
Moron: 7 Hearts
Matt: Congrats on being wrong.
Perfect.
I'm pretty sure that his last request (the 3 extra cards drawn) is proof that he was calling to troll. Seriously, asking Matt what the cards are after he held them up? I don't believe that he was seriously expecting to trick Matt unless he is incredibly stupid.
I lost it when Relic is mid-rant and Matt just randomly holds up a fucking card lolol
Hi, Matt and Shannon. Asking these folks questions just panics them. Why don't they ask their god what to say that's convincing?
Matt has asked that on a number of occasions. It never ends well. Just like with Christoper at 1:23:40
Honestly, the summary is the best part. It is like a disembodied narrator telling "Previously, on the atheist experience!"
I'm an atheist and I've watched probably one hundred episodes [for the better part of a decade] of the Atheist Experience and I'm a supporter. I actually owe this show for giving me the strength to address my doubt with being a theist. Having said that, I call things as I see them and Patrick was absolutely correct when he stated that he wasn't afforded an opportunity to respond. Watch his session again and you might be appalled at the lack of respect he is given. For example, Shannon asked him to offer evidence that the universe is conscious and he wasn't allowed to answer before Matt jumped in with several more points to digest and Matt actually stated that Patrick didn't answer her question. Shannon did the same thing and I'm not trying to assign blame, rather inform the hosts that the viewers shouldn't feel that we're watching an interrogation, but an honest and open discussion from TWO SIDES, not one.
I have a vast amount of respect for Matt and Shannon, but the callers need to be treated as humans, not inferior animals. That responsibility falls upon the hosts. Hopefully, this post won't be deleted and it will be received as constructive criticism and a few minutes can be spent thinking about my comments here.
Aside from this post, thank you to The Atheist Experience for all that you've accomplished and offered to humanity. Your work has affected my life significantly and that has in turn affected lives of strangers and others in my circle. Have an eye opening life!
If Kevin came back in a week with good arguments, he'd have to have concluded that belief in god isn't logical without evidence and would have shed his belief.
If Kevin could somehow prove god next week.
That means this week he believed in god based on no evidence, and atheists would be in the correct position for withholding belief until there was evidence.
Always know it will be, well, interesting, when I see someone trying to justify slavery when Matt is on.
You’d think they would have learnt by now!
@@SamualRobotham-IWasOnlyKidding I mean they think a 2,000 year old dead guy is gonna show up one day and take them all to paradise, so I think maybe you’re expecting a lot by thinking they would learn eventually.
It’s kinda their defining characteristic.
Kudos to Matt for this episode! Was on his best behavior, tried to have actual dialogues, didn't interrupt much and was generally pleasant, all of which benefits the show. Shannon was awesome as per usual.
"What evidence to you have that Jesus was a god?"
"I just feel it..." - Bwuahahahahahahhaahahahahahahaha
Changed my life for the better. Thank you, for Truth
“The universe is literally god”
What does that mean? What is a god and how do we know it’s “the universe”?
“Well personally it’s a guess from a human standpoint”
Failed at “personally”. This isn’t about your feelings. You can’t tell us what a god is but you expect us to accept it as true because you have a feeling?
1:24:07 There was a 1/52 chance for Christopher to blow our minds
Freya the goddess that opens my door for me. But only once or twice.😂😂😂😂The callers have cracked me up tonight 😂😂😂😂👍🇬🇧
Oh boy - Richard seems to be a graduate of the new private university that Professor Mike Lindell has opened in Dogpatch, Alabama. Its motto is "Quis cerebrum eget usquam?"
Fees are $150,000 a year (cash only - no cheques accepted). Principal is Ezekiel Q Braynedamage PhD Oxford (Arkansas).
Professor Lindell says: "It's a real classy place. We got knives and forks and everything, and a couple of the teachers have actually read books and stuff."
The head of Science Studies is Doctor the Right Honourable Reverend Sir Kent Hovind MSc, OM, VC, BS, ROFL.
"What he knows about the oranges of life is just incredible", says His Imperial Majesty and Royal Highness Professor the Viscount Lindell C.R.A.C.K., Lord of the Isles, President of UNESCO, Lord of the Flies.
"I even had to look up how to spell "evverlooshian" before I wroted it down on the corrickerlum".
apologists, priests and other scoundrels have somewhat succeeded in closing off any real conversations, by preaching their snakeoil about evolution to their easily confounded (weak in logic) religiously indoctrinated cohort.
i could only reason a little better myself even after i stopped believing, until AXP showed me what it's truly about. before that i only had glimpses of logical falacies and thought that it's mostly esoterical stuff from philosophers. i did have my computing background to help me connect the dots in fundamental logic, which is almost everything you need to know, besides science methods to check premises.
it's all too easy for the religiously strongly subscribed to fall for the false logic peddled to them, so they dont have to think or change.
if only Richard could learn to suspend his theism even temporarily--rather than a foregone conclusion of god, so the door on truth/reality could open a little.
"Hold up the three cards. Now tell me what are they."
Matt: "Go fuck yourself." I laughed so hard. X3
Great show ✌️
44:42 This *fact* here, is the reason why so many people that I know are theists. Not saying it's the majority (or even a plurality) that feel this way. It's just what I've found in my personal experience of speaking w/ believers & fence-sitters... over & over again.
& that's pretty encouraging to me, actually. It used to discourage me, until I realized that just a couple decades ago, they wouldn't have admitted to that being the case at all; whether true or not.
So according to Patrick, the afterlife is Heavenly Gates 90210? He and Christopher had to have been troll callers.
1:01:30 Susan’s in depth explanation’s end (the quick “ya know”) and Matt’s “No I don’t know…” should make the cut as one of the Funny moments in next weeks episode of “things you may have missed.” Thumbs up if you agree. 😆
Great call from Bob
Your crew do so well, because they have nerdy cats from outer space helping them out! MEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOWWWW!
Pretty sure Will is that guy Matt debated a while ago that just put up a video of him talking to an academic and stating he didn't have a chance to prepare properly
Bob sounded very passionate about his work. It's great when you love your job.
I'm the only person in my family who is an Atheist, and I'm autistic (diagnosed as Asperger's). In my experience, almost everyone I know with ASD is also Atheist, with the exception of 1 person, who is hyper-fixated on religion.
I am an Aspie as well, and have also noticed that other Aspies I've met have also tended towards non-belief. I suspect it's because Aspie brains tends to find comfort and familiarity in applying logic to as much of their existence and worldview as possible, and religion is simply not a subject able to withstand the majority of logical assessment. I have not personally met an Aspie with religious beliefs, but I do know one individual who is very prone towards conspiracy theories and conspiratorial thinking in general, our conversations have never been particularly productive or agreeable.
My son, brother, and FIL are ASD (what would have been considered Asperger's, but trying to avoid using that term). My son is atheist, my brother is hard core Christian, my father-in-law is Christian by default. I have two other friends who also fall into that part of the spectrum and both are evangelical. I think it's much like any other person's experience, in that one's upbringing lays the groundwork. It's a source of comfort for my brother. I don't think my FIL has ever thought about it.
@@patrickjones2379 Thank you for your input. Perhaps we are being overly anecdotal, and those with ASD are much like anyone else, in that their differences and similarities are as vast and distributed as any other demographic.
“The goddess Freya…”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
If that was real, it’s very sad.
Kevin-(CA): Such an embarrassment to himself. Canada has a much better education system in spite of having a Kevin as a by-product.
The awkward silence before each card guess is hilarious.
Christopher wins cognitive dissonance prize.
the 'wtf is Freya hiding from?' had me spit my coffee hahaha
Agreed ✨🖖🏾 The meaning of Life is to LIVE.
Community, Collaboration, Creation, Self-expression, Self-Discovery, Learning, Pleasure....all wonderful things that you can't engage in when you're dead.
It's not about yelling 'YOLO', and abusing others because 'nothing matters'.
It's about choosing what matters based on truth, and based on your values. It's about not wasting precious time on lies, being authentic instead of afraid, and making the most of who you are and exploring who you can be, in this particular world, at this particular time.
When done right, both you and the world come out the better for it all.
When you're led by lies? _Disaster._
Yeah I'd say that the Asperger's fellow definitely has it. That opening ramble was exactly what I tend to do when given the opportunity lol.
I thought I was going to hear one of my favorite analogies about software vs hardware:
Question 1: Can you have hardware without software?
A: Yes, a lawnmower, a regular bicycle, and a pencil are all examples of hardware without software
Question 2: Can you have software without hardware?
A: That is not possible. Software must exist on some media. It must be stored on some memory chip or storage device somewhere. Even if its spread across the internet, it cannot exist without hardware. if you destroy the device (or devices) that its stored on, you will destroy the software as well.
Isn't your "soul" the software inside your brain? Your brain will still exist for a while after you die as a corpse. The "software" that is you will be destroyed as well.
Too bad we can't yet upload it to the web or at least a back up hard drive.
Writing a book is also an idea for recording our "Software" but it only scratches the service.
@Loki
Hey that is a great point.
In that moment, it only exists as radio waves. But you can detect it and decode it ,but only with some sort of hardware.
Lets be clear about this, I read Hebrew and the word means property (non-specifically but it IS used to determine who has property of land) so that is where he got it from.
Land owner is the word he's confusing with property owner and his idea that "they are your land" makes no sense what so ever.
Actually, it seems even worse to me. By using that word, the bible is treating slaves as no different from or better than land.
So equating people with land somehow means that the bible does not treat slaves badly?
These conversations are often repetitive but great viewing: its always energized & stimulating because its a different mug each time. Must admire the hosts, how do they continue ? they visibly express a lot of stress getting the same old BS.
i usually watch Forrest on this show. But I LOVED this one. It was a lot of fun and i enjoy seeing you guys laughing so genuinely
To people who believe in god because Einstein had some form of belief in some god, I like to ask them why they arent a socialist since Einstein was.
Same goes for Newton. He was a Christian but believed that alchemy was a thing.
Probably no one believes in a god because Einstein did. They just use it as an counter argument when their belief is questioned.
"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this. For me the unadulterated Jewish religion is, like all other religions, an incarnation of primitive superstition."
"It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it."
"A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man."
Albert Einstein, 1954 ("God Letter")
Susan represents the average human who doesn't think about what they're saying more critically. And when someone urges them to do that they get so confused.
I don't want "God" to reveal himself to me, it sounds gross.
"It seems that so many people have been beaten into theistic puddles of broken confusion that religion has become a huge "easy bake oven" for them that turns out "food for thought" that has been burnt and distorted into unrecognizable drool."ed by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
"Be Excellent To Each Other" (Bill & Ted)
Richard's way of trying to prove the unprovable is the way someone at my work argues every point (very religious person by the way). Other than accent, this was almost word for word his daily arguments for any point - "this my son is an example of a brain on gawd"
I'm baffled he's soo confident in his "argumentation". How awful a mind can be.
in a 1000 years time ,evolution will still be the explanation for the diversity of life......but i think Christianity will be a minority religion
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl And this shows us how we end up with the dumbest conspiracy theories that are currently out there (that we can laugh about, over family suppers) and it explains how people like him think that they suddenly have such real understanding of how some complicated issue works, yet have no education or real understanding of the issue at all, but are absolutely convinced that they do, and with a bizarre level of confidence, that is puzzling. It’s because they know so little and are so uninformed or misinformed, that they can’t even realize how wrong and clueless they really are. It can be a real problem nowadays.
@@paddlefar9175 You're completly right. Is it a phenomenon only or are we going to have "these people" (we can not generalize and there are many different "types" of people who are confident in their far fetched believes) for a longer time around? I'm afraid the latter is right and that's awful for us all as a "functioning" society, what normally sorts out such "mass phenomenons", or at least makes them less impactful.
@@teardrop-in-a-fishbowl Yes it's calked the Dunning-Kruger effect, bias that people who have no expertise or knowledge in a subject but they have misplaced confidence in such a subject
This was a great show with a lot of entertaining and funny calls!
I used to wonder the attraction to church and worship. But if those people feel the energy and the exchange between the audience and artist at something like a Metallica show, then I kinda get it a little bit. I feel something like an other - worldly experience when I attend great concerts. So now I kinda get how Christians think there are souls and spirituality when they may have similar experiences with church and Jesus as i have had with Mick and Keith or Eddie Van Halen lifting up 30,000 people with the magic of his playing.
And many an artist has had followers that felt the lyrics were intended for them personally and were pretty convinced of that. Religion may rely on the same mechanism in similar varying ways from extremely mild to full cuckoo.
Jon Steingard (ex Christian, former singer in Christian rock band 'Hawk Nelson') talks about this on his YT channel. Says he thought it was odd that he got the same feeling of 'elation' from a Coldplay concert.
Internal monolog. Very interesting Hopefully more discussions about this