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Billy Steinberg & Tom Kelly - Like a virgin (Madonna) | The Story Behind The Song
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- Опубликовано: 2 сен 2020
- The songwriting duo Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly tell about their first big hit: 'Like a virgin' by Madonna. A short documentary by Top 2000 a gogo from 2018 (Dutch Public Television).
Great episode! I never even thought about who had written that song.....I do not like Madonna as a person, but it's an absolute killer track! Stood the test of time, fabulous eighties intro, love it!
How cool to see these two together again after so many years.
Is is unbelievable this channel has only 69K subscribers at this moment. It's a true gold.
Agree. True gold......
Love these inspirational mini docs. Love it when they talk about the equipment/instruments used and the recording process.
Madonna! I had a friend Jay that was a manager at an upscale Hotel in Mpls. Madonna was in town for a concert for her “like a virgin tour”. Apparently she had been booked into another hotel which she did not like. So her whole group came into my friends’ hotel late afternoon asking for the penthouse suite. He explained that was not possible as it was booked already. He offered her one of their bridal suites which was quite expensively decorated. They were taken up to the suite and Madonna said it was perfect! Star struck Jay sent flowers up to the suite, wine and chocolates.
After working the night shift he went home to sleep, about 10 am he was awoken by his supervisor and told to get back to work right away. Back at the hotel all the staff was on edge, Jay wasn’t sure what was going on. His extremely red faced boss took him up to the room, to show him the destruction. On every surface, walls ceiling, mirror and doors was written in heavy black magic marker “THANK YOU JAY THANK YOU JAY THANK YOU JAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN” it must have taken hours to write everywhere. Jay was asked for his ID and keys and marched off the property. It took him more than 6 months to get another job. His car was repossessed, never the same happy guy after that. I saw him smash a radio once when one of her songs came on . . .
Never say a star you adore them. Look at them cool and reserve way, say something cold and polite and they respect you. OR act like you know them personally for decades. Stars see so much stupid adoration so they are just fed up.
Is this for real?
I didn't know the history of that song...I've heard it for the very first time...like a virgin! 😎
Never cared for her as an artist or for her persona. Thanks for adding to the pile of reasons. She's lucky you guys met her.
Lol. She's a billionare. Go cry back in your hole. @StooB
Hey NVr, but people care for her. That's the difference between you and her. Millions of people love her and buy her music. Who cares for you? Not more than 5 or 10 people I'm guessing. Even that's a stretch. You not caring about her is irrelevant since she outnumbers you by MILLIONS in the amount of people who love her. So go back to your hole.
@@alinaveed20 You overestimate my popularity. She's still an exceedingly wealthy numpty with unremarkable talents.
@@alinaveed20 For all that money she's got you to defend her on the internet. You're right, she wins.
She is the most talented and hardworking woman in the business. The numbers prove that. The fact that you chose to ignore every single positive thing I wrote about Madonna and continue to blab against her proves to me you must be 12. I do not defend her for her money. I defend her for her artistic integrity. I defend her for her struggle. I defend her for her freedom of expression. I defend her for her fight against wrong. I defend her for her determination. I defend her for her strength as a woman and as a human. I defend her for at the end of the day she is just a little girl who lost her mother at 5! I defend her because I love her. I know her life story. Go do some research before you use those filthy fingers of yours to type such hateful words. The Hate is real. lmao. Keep wasting your time and energy. While she sits there enjoying life. What a pathetic loser. You truly must be a disgrace to your parents. In fact they must be just as hateful as you. Go worship Satan kid. @@NVRAMboi
Tom Kelly has a great voice...he has backround vocals on soooo many great songs. Amazing guy...
True. He did some for Rick Springfield & Sammy Hagar. Very nice.
@@agentbillstoll6235 he is all over Rick's 80's stuff...Sammy recommended him when Rick recorded a Sammy-penned song
I like his backing vocals on Heart's "Alone" & "You Ain't So Tough" from their Bad Animals album in 1987.
Great episode, never knew who written it. They gave her a huge hit, she could have at least be polite and respectful.
I know, the song was about feeling clean again. She's obviously not a sweetheart.
Madonna’s more recent music career has only gone to highlight how lucky she was to have some amazing songwriters creating her early hits. She sure ain’t got ‘em now! (Having said that, I did think Ghost Town was a weird return to form for her. Flash in the pan though)
She's written 95% of her hits, excluding this one, Material Girl, and a few others. 😂😂
Shes had a career going on 40 years….😂
WTF are you talking about??
All of her recently released albums have been #1s.
The new young girls today ie: Demi, Miley, Christina Aguilera sont have that. Lmao
Like a surgeon, HEY!
* sturgeon
Caviar for the very first time.
Cut for the very first time 😄 weird al...
@@hashtag415 🤣 Best comment!
History always catches up, be a nice person or be Madonna.
I’d rather be multimillionaire Madonna
The demo sounds like a Prince song, in the vein of 'I wanna be your lover', quite cool actually. The combination of the Linn and the high pitched voice I think.
I hope she’s been grateful afterwards... sweet story, sweet guys❤️✨
Don't bet on it: she's the polar opposite of Dave Grohl.
Yeah, right. According to Madonna, she's "done it all on her own."
she must have thought she did them a favor. they sure wrote some great hits!
Great story, heard a few like that about Madona.
"You meet a lot of people on the way up. Don't fuck with them because you meet them again on the way down." -Ozzy Osbourne.
This was uploaded on my birthday
Wow, I did not think it was possible for me to dislike Madonna as a person more than I already do.
Yep, me too 😂😂
She was super lucky they threw so many talented musicist at her. Including the guy who was working with Michael Jackson for the Bad album (he did Love to Tell)
Word
That's not really fair, you have to hear her side of the same story. It's not like she's never thanked them in writing. As did Nile Rodgers by the way. And I know from being around her during a tour that she was *literally* being stalked about every other 10 minutes by someone needing to meet with her back in '84.
@@Dr.AnonymousPro still she showed a big disrespect to these 2 songwriters.
And they both are sensible and good hearted humans.
I feel the same way!!! What an awfull ungratefull person. Billy & Tom....wonderful!!!
You should see the websites of these guys and see wich songs they made and for who... Amazing! Madonna should be very ashamed to treat these guys so snobbish... She ows her carreer to them.
They wrote her breaktrough hit that made her a superstar - and this is how she thanks them....
Not her breakthrough hit she had already achieved global success with holiday and lucky star
@@gerryowen4200 It's true that she had already entered the charts with these songs, however it was Like a Virgin made her a household name.
@@miknes12345 entered the global charts. But yeah she didn’t have to be rude but she is. It’s a good story though.
@@gerryowen4200 I think it is rather symptomatic of her character
@@miknes12345 possibly, she’s def not a humble person. I suspect she had moved on by that point. I think her attitude would of been that she made them a lot of money from the song. However I don’t agree with her protective tough exterior. She’s Is known to be tough and rude.
The intro was inspired by I Can't Help myself by The Four Tops.
Yes we all knew that
thats friggin great
"Can't you hear my heartbeat?"
Well, no, cause you have none. 😐
How many times has Madonna quite literally bit the hand that fed her? I adore her as a musician and her music has been a blessing but she sometimes doesn’t know how to treat people very well
I have the full 24 track multi track files for this song.. happy to share...
Hi Rob would you share With me?
Great story, thought it was going somewhere else.
I'm done with her now.
Billy Steinberg and Tom Kelly wrote Eternal Flame for The Bangles and Alone by Heart ❤
And True Colours by Cyndi Lauper.
I love these two
And “I’ll stand by you” the pretenders
I already heard a story similar to that. But I feel sad for them
I was in the 5th grade when this song was top of the charts. Had no idea what the lyrics were about. I asked my sister who was 3 years older what a Virgin was. I don’t think she explained it to me. I was guessing it had something to do with the Virgin Mary. A guy a school just said it was someone who hasn’t had sexual intercourse and even that explanation went over my head.
I was in 5th grade as well:) I have a sister 3 1/2 years older than me but I have no recollection of asking for an explanation. I remember not liking Madonna that much and this video may go some way as to why i.e. she was self-absorbed. They are nice tunes though and 'Like a Prayer' (1989) started to turn things for me (but not the music video). Thanks for sharing. Nice to take a trip down 'Memory Lane'.
She must be having a hard time in here bathtub now, singing to her brush.
Her last tour a few years ago was sold out everywhere and number one tour from everyone else that year... you don't know what you are saying.
Very enjoyable story. It’s no surprise that Madonna acted like a diva but I’m sure it was all worth it 😂
“... Madonna acted like a bitch…”, there, fixed it for ya.
Release the demo!
Need that demo version
WHAT! That Bit......
ps, I like Tom Kelly's stuff - like he wrote for REO Speedwagon, etc
I bet Warren Beatty thought the song was about him.... 😉
Haha
She didn't start dating him until 5 or 6 years later. She was married to Sean Penn between that song and Warren Beatty.
@@Heartboy1031 Right. But I was kinda being knowingly sarcastic, being that that Carly Simon song "You're So Vain" was about Warren Beatty (most likely). To explain is to kind of kill the joke tho.
It just striked me how much Madge looks like gloria swanson in that video im ready 4 my close up stylee lol she fucking is her spit
Throw some Tony Thompson (Chic) drums on there and hell yeah!
Would be a great Beach Boys song
Yeah it would great , if anyone could believe they aren’t all STILL virgins that is !
I believe Tom Kelly was offered to be in the Beach Boys touring band in the mid-70s when he was playing in Dan Fogelberg's band (which released a couple of records on their own as Fools Gold). He turned them down though, but he later worked with Gary Usher.
Madonna gives "shiny and new" meaning to term "not being beholden to any man" by not being the least bit grateful for the song that propelled her into the stratosphere.
Nobody tell Mr. Brown.
in 2008 as a huge fan i went to her concert in amsterdam arena after waiting for 3 hours she came on stage and starting playback her songs i was so disappointed ....i believe these guys she has no feeling with her fans
Yikes at the saltiness in the comments. Imagine thinking Madonna is the same person she was 30+ years ago, a time in which she admitted she was a much more selfish & rude person. Billy and Tom are fabulous songwriters and made a great hit. It's too bad they had a bad experience with her back then.
Nice guys and wow, what a song to kickstart someone’s career. Madonna on the other hand ……
To quote the wonderful Patti LuPone: “Madonna is a movie killer. She’s dead behind the eyes. She cannot act her way out of a paper bag. She should not be in film or onstage. She’s a wonderful performer for what she does, but she is not an actress.”
Do the same with Eternal Flame, please!
That will be coming, we will make an 30 minute special about Steinberg and Kelly. It will air in The Netherlands in December and follow shortly on RUclips!
@@Top2000agogo Excellent!
That's it? Where is the rest of the story?
2:18 Literally looks like Billie Jean 😂😂
Ik vraag mij wel eens af hoe het had geklonken als Michael Jackson het had gezonden. Whoooh
Michael only did virgins
Who would of thought Madonna was a diva? 🤔
Ok they got snubbed by maddona but how much royalties do they have 🤷♂️big$$$$
They made a ton of money in the industry.
@@VictorRochaGaming Deservedly so.
ohhh poor Billy!!
Great story... and Madonna proves once more what a knob she is.
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And then what........ Would so love to hear how they proposed the song to her
Me too. That's an important part of the story. How did that happen?
I think, they never met her, after the success of the song they finally met her and that’s the story they are telling ,
@@zakit that was the first time , (meeting her) after the success they finally met her and that’s what she says
They likely didn't. They probably were working with a publisher who pitched it to a number of artists and Madonna / her people optioned it to record. That's why he'd been waiting so long to be able to meet her, as well as so crushed when he finally did.
Nice to know this song was written by a man. Such a shame madonna hasn’t progressed as a human being over the years as one of us would expect and hope. Anyways a great success for the guys a song writers, she doesn’t have to say a lot anyway
Curious why being written by a man makes this "nice" to know? Also, Madonna is a global philanthropist who's opened hospitals in poverty stricken African communities...and perhaps you have too. I think she's progressed far beyond how you personally might have "hoped".
It feels weird to know that Like a Virgin was actually written by men... and then they gave it to a woman (Madonna) to sing it...
You would have thought Madonna wrote this song herself
Madonna said she never met them. 😂
Wow 🥺 . . . That's how you get treated after writing a smash hit? That's insane!
I made a cover, also for fun purposes, of this song in the style of Type o Negative you may want to check out. It's on my channel somewhere.
Keep it up guys, you did a wonderful job, as you probably already know 👌🏾🤣
That's not really fair, you have to hear her side of the same story. It's not like she's never thanked them. As did Nile Rodgers by the way. And I know from being around her during a tour that she was literally being stalked about every other 10 minutes by someone needing to meet with her back in '84.
This video ruined reservoir dogs for me. Thx.
The story is better than the song. Never understood arrogance since unless you are Einstein or Feynman there is no reason to feel you better than the next person.
Yep, sounds like Madonna.
Madonna is a diva but she gets the job done
Cee U Next Tuesday
😂😂😂😂😂😆🤣🤣🤣
This song catapulted her to mega stardom but it's overrated in my opinion and Madonna herself has written much better songs such as Like a Prayer, Live to Tell, Express Yourself, Vogue, La isla Bonita, Frozen, Into the groove, etc
Define "better songs". But first check this song chart performance, critical reception and impact in the artist career.
@@DorinMunteanu Better songs lyrically, vocally and musically, anyone with a good ear can notice that, Like a virgin is a great song but still bubblegum pop at best, Like a prayer and Vogue have had much more impact, chart success and critical acclaim
Imagine this song with a real singer, wow.
Sounds like Herbert the pervert from family guy.
These two guys do like they gave #Madonna the biggest hit... never liked particularly that song... holiday and lucky star were much much better.
'Wow, she's such a genius'
So, didn't create anything of the song, just sang it in her ridiculous squeaking voice.
And all teenage girls wanted to be her.
a whole has happened since 1984.
It's always producers, engineers and writers who make these artists famous. I don't like divas.
They didn't want a woman to sing that song, They offered the song to MJ but he refused. Madonna made it huge
Yeah, Madonna is one.nasty.soul.
dis lieflike
They wasted there art on a horrible ungrateful person!
Gay song for sure that demo🤣
She cant sing, what a difference with the demo. Lol
True. Madonna has always had a flat, toneless voice.
I'm guessing the demo wasn't sung by Madonna.
@@zakit Probably by one of the guys.
The person on the demo was Kelly or Steinberg, not Madonna. But it is true that she is not the best vocalist.
The demo is thin, shakey, and awful. That's fine! They aren't singers. Madonna's vocals bring warmth and excitement, Nile's production slaps the song into the pop stratosphere. There is no Like a Virgin without Madonna---and it shot to number 1.
Wow. The amount of hate in the comments just shows that indeed the only religion we practice as humanity is HATE. Firstly there are always 2 sides to a story. Secondly she didn't steal this song from them. They thought she was the perfect artist for recording this song. Which she clearly was. They did not receive a thank you? What are you living in DisneyLand? They get royalties from 'Like A Virgin' to this day. She did not have the time to sit down personally and call every other songwriter she worked with. This was the most famous woman on planet Earth at that time. Still is. She is worth more than what you or or your entire family could ever imagine to be, even if given an unlimited number of lifetimes. Queen Of Pop. Best selling female recording artist of all time, recognised by the Guinness Book Of World Records. Highest grossing tour by a female artist ever, Sticky and Sweet Tour 2008. According to Billboard, Madonna is now the first artist to collect 50 No. 1 hits on any chart. Millions of people love her. Millions of people love her music. She is not just a singer, dancer, writer, actor, performer, mother, an activist. She is a Phenomeon. Numbers don't lie. People do. Go back to your holes kids.
nutbag ⤴️
Lmao. Madonna is worth more than what you or your entire family could ever imagine to be even if given an unlimited number of lifetimes. Go back to your hole kid. @@sandervanduijvenbode5541
@@alinaveed20 so it's about money/wealth for you? That makes her a great person indeed. Bye nutbag.
You're on the wrong website, dear. Go back to your Madonna fansite if you don't like the comments in here.
I choose to believe Quentin's origin story as he told it in the opening scene of "Reservoir Dogs". Way more fun ^.^
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