6:18 Theo Baker saying Sadio Mane was one of the players to play in the Euro's who also plays in Saudi is possibly up there with one of the worst takes this channel has seen..
This was never, ever a debate. Some people seem to think it was decided after Messi won the World Cup, but he’s always been a better player by absolute light years. Undisputed goat.
and theres also endless arguments for the debate being over in 2011 lmao, if you dont even count any stats and ask whos the footballer ever its messi - big gap, ronaldo then about 4-5 players
Messi has always been a better footballer. He's statistically a better goalscorer whilst providing 200 more assists and being a more important part of a team in every game he plays
@@arthurrobertson2126 just because you watched the World Cup and a few messi montages on tik tok it doesn’t make him better😭ronaldo forever the goat. The debate is forced by Barcelona fans, Argentinians or just ronaldo haters
I don’t agree. Messi was always better in my book but since Messi won the World Cup there’s this argument that it was never close which is just not true at all.
@@zacharysmackary8307 it hasn’t been close since 2014, even then, Ronaldo has never had close to the dribbling, passing, and iq that Messi has, i actually feel bad that Ronaldo has to compare to Messi, but Messi is just clear of every and anyone, a pair of eyeballs tells you that straight away, but also his numbers and statistics, trophies, he has all that backing his case aswell.
@@flamesteak I think Messi is better but this "it was not even close" daft argument is proof of how recency bias works, Messi is a better footballer but we also judge footballers on efficiency and clutch moments which propelled Ronaldo to be on his level for like 2 decades, this whole it wasn't even close because Ronaldo has been terrible for 2 years is so cringe.
@@maninform3523 Ronaldo worked really hard to perfect his body, but if you watch both of them for 90 minutes, the only aspect where it is close is goal scoring. And Messi is still more efficient from every distance and has a better per game ratio
It’s hilarious that Ronaldo is disrespected HEAVILY. Messi is comfortably Number 1 of all-time for most people…yet Ronaldo is left out of many people’s top 5 players ever…but he has destroyed the same era that Messi has “cleared”…even more so than Messi in some areas. How can there be such a disparity? Cristiano, in 2008 was the one who had the spotlight over Messi..as a goalscorer? No, he was known for his dribbling back then. He is the best in the air, has elite movement has the most left-footed goals of our era behind Salah and Messi…but he is right footed… Messi is the best. Ronaldo is second. And it is close
I love how you guys always bring up 2008..Messi been playing the same since he was 3 years old ..and he only got better with age ..don't tell me about cr7's injury which brought down his dribbling stats .. that's bull .. Messi got an injury that could have ended his career aswell ..he came back even better than before ..
No one disrespected Ronaldo when Messi won the world cup. The disrespect started when CR fanboys started crying that the copa america and world cup were rigged. That's what got to people. Seriously I have never seen Messi fans starting the debate, it's always a cr7 fan. CR is a better striker than Messi but as an overall player Messi is so much better.
Here after Gomes dropped a 10/10. Anyone that watched him in the 21s knows how good he is. Don’t remember him giving the ball away at all tonight. Completely controlled the game on his own
Anyone who ever entertained the forced “debate” was a naive casual fan. Messi was the best goal scorer and creator at the same time, Ronaldo was an average creator at best.
Theo talking out of his ring as usual. The reason Ronaldo gets disrespect is because he's an egomaniac who talks crap about everyone else. Messi could of retired at 25 and still been better than ronaldo
Not even going to watch bc Chris does my head in, Ronaldo is and always has been the goat, I can give messi his flowers but you can’t argue with someone that has (and is the only person ever) 900+ goals and done it in multiple leagues including the prem
@@danzendler7158 take away the saudi goals he’s still got more than messi, and I promise you 67 goals in saudi is better than 6 penalties at the World Cup
@@Musakhan23901 bc he plays them once a blue moon on a big champions league night for one of the greatest teams to ever exist, playing prem ball week in week out is a lot different to playing them on a Tuesday night for a ucl fixture
All u need to do is watch one messi game and u know he’s the best ever. It’s just different, 99% the stuff Messi does doesn’t go on a stat sheet and he’s still statistically the best ever.
When you see Messi play you can see the entire goal being created and scored. Ronaldo will pop up at the last moment to score the goal. This is not all the time but most times that's what happens. Messi passes the eye test and stats back him up too. Ronaldo is the undisputed no 2 OAT. Messi is no 1!
8:55 is one of the most disrespectful statements of all time. „Ronaldo is way closer to Maradona/Pele than he is to Messi“. First of all Ronaldo is definitely not ahead of Pele or Maradona in the all time rankings, and implying that he is, without any doubt, just shows a complete lack of football knowledge. Secondly, to imply Messi so far gone as the goat is one of the worst takes in the history of football, that simply shows a complete neglect of previous eras. There are legitimate arguments to be made that he is neither clear of Pele or Maradona, so to suggest it isn‘t a debate is absurd.
@@Cameron0548 My top 3 all time are Maradona, Messi, Pele, in that order. Although you can rearrange them in any order you like and its fine, because we are talking about the smallest of margins here. Statistically, Pele probably has the best case for being the GOAT, but the only reason I don‘t have him #1 is that there simply isn‘t enough video footage of him, and I find it tough to put a guy at #1 that I haven‘t really have seen play. Cristiano is either 4 or 5 right now.
Ronaldo is a better goalscorer is such a not true statement. Messi took less shots scored more goals who cares how he did it. It ended up in the back of the net more efficiently. He's won 6 European golden boots
pessi stayed in 1 club all his life and became a garbage scorer as soon as he left barca, while Ronaldo has done it everywhere. And during their time in spain, Ronaldo is the one with the better ratio. so keep coping
@@ElDragowRonaldo needs good midfiel and defence, so he just wait for crosses near the net for goals all his career, Messi himself is a playmaker, goalscorer, assister for the team, Ronaldo has done nothing, he was always served. Messi is just better in every way
How does a group of lads in their 20's/30's who have a football show still know nothing about football? The fact Messi is even remotely close to Ronaldo in goals is freaky enough, because he is better even without the goals. Messi is literally the greatest of all time and 99% of top elite footballers will say Messi is the GOAT, even before the World Cup.
The comments at the bottom of this video are why I’m sick and tired of the Messi Ronaldo debate. Too much tribalism that is still going on even as both men hit 40.
Trust me no one could debate with a dumb football fan who straight claims that the biggest sport competition of all time was rigged for one person which gives the organization nothing because Ronaldo has more following and he is more famous. you just can't debate ball with them
Soon they’re both going to be retired and football as a whole will be worse off. I prefer Ronaldo due to the sheer joy he brought me on the pitch but I enjoy both. End of the day it doesn’t matter. Just enjoy them both
Theo is such a hypocrite crying about how Ronaldo gets disrespected and then going to discredit the career of Pele. Fact of the matter is, Pele is way clear of Ronaldo in all facets of the game and I doubt that will change anytime soon.
Im personally a ronaldo guy, i like his playstyle more, if you preger messi thats fine, but if you dont put ronaldo second at least your wrong, they Are clearly the two best players off all time.
Ah yes... For 15 years these two were taking turns winning ballon dors and golden boots, the world used to stop to watch them play in the el clasico... fans and commentators were constantly fighting to see who truly was the best and for years people marveled at how lucky we were to be born in the era of the two greatest players that the world has ever seen... But according to some twats who have always despised ronaldo or for some reason let this last 2/3 years mold their opinion, it was "never a debate" 😂
Can we just stop this debate over Messi and Ronaldo? It’s been going on for years, I’m tired of hearing about it. BTW my opinion only, Messi is the better player. Ronaldo as good as he is, he’s at the point of holding back younger Portugal players yet none of the coaches want to hurt his feelings. Lastly I hope the 2026 World Cup is the last tournament both players participate in. Both aren’t far off 40. Ronaldo will be 41 in 2026 and Messi 39. No one wants to see Messi at the 2030 World Cup or Ronaldo at the 2028 euros and the 2030 World Cup.
Yeah even I’m tired of it going on. I’m sure both will be at it in 2 years time but I hope the 2026 World Cup is the last tournament Messi and Ronaldo are in and the last bit of football they do altogether. I don’t want to see either still playing after that. 2026 World Cup should be the swan song of their careers
Ronaldo isn’t even the better goal scorer, messis goal to game ratio, minute per goal and shot to goal ratios are all better and he has more golden boots. Ronaldo is the more complete goalscorer, has more ways of scoring, but he isn’t the better goal scorer, or the goat for that matter
I shouldn’t even entertain these Messi fan boys and football hipsters but where do I even start. Ronaldo has done it at club level in the 3 best leagues in the world, Messi has only done it in one of those surrounded by world class players. Ronaldo has done it being surrounded with average players at Juventus and Manchester United the second time round. You look at the big games at club level in particular champions league knockout games, Messi ghosted in the majority from 2016 onwards while the goat Ronaldo showed up and scored hat trick after hat trick when his team mates ghosted carrying them and hence why he has won more champions leagues. Messi is now 37 and playing in a terrible standard of footballing league while Ronaldo at that age was playing in the best league in the world, again scoring goals and salvaging some sort of pride for an abysmal Manchester United team. Then of course we move on to the only real argument you Messi fan boys have, the World Cup and I won’t go down the route of its controversy with the decisions favouring Argentina throughout the tournament and instead will point out with the players Messi’s been surrounded with at Argentina throughout the years he should’ve won much more at the international level and bottled the 2014 World Cup and 2015 & 2016 copa America’s. Ronaldo would’ve won much more than Messi at international level if he had been surrounded with such a class of player, however believe it or not as I know the majority of you Messi fan boys started watching football in 2021, Ronaldo had very poor team mates throughout the majority of his international career and despite this managed to carry them to two international trophies. Don’t get me started on the joke of an award that is the ballon d’or that saw Messi rob Virgil Van Dijk in 2019 who had been dribbled past 0 times and won a champions league narrowly missing out on the premier league double, Lewandowski in 2021 and treble winning and record breaking in the premier league Haaland in 2023, it clearly showed that the ballon d’or is nothing more than a popularity contest. How it’s even a debate that a player who only thrived in one league, surrounded with world class players and playing in a similar footballing system the full time can be compared to a player so versatile who has carried teams in different leagues, footballing systems and situations is beyond me. The 901 goal man Cristiano Ronaldo is clear, however for those of you Messi fan boys and football hipsters who have actually took the time to read this and haven’t resorted to insults and smashing your keyboards with deluded nonsense, I have no bias in this and think Messi is the second best footballer of all time.
😂😂😂 these Ronaldo fan boys man you say Ronaldo has done it at the three best leagues in the world but yet he joined a juventus team that has won 9 leagues in a row a Real Madrid side that is probably top 3 teams of all time and then a poor united team so stop acting like Ronaldo had it hard. And you say Ronaldo has done it in more big games but yet Messi has 50 g/a in in 49 games in finals and Ronaldo has 25 g/a in 38 games so that makes sense and to say that Messi ghosted in the champions league 2016 onwards but yet in 2018 Messi had 12 goals and 3 assists 4 more than anyone else he had 2 more goals/a in 2019 than ronaldo and in 2020 he had 2 more than Ronaldo so how has Messi ghosted after 2016 in the champions league and your saying Messi is playing at a terrible standard at 37 but yet yet Ronaldo only had 19 g/a in 40 games not that impressive is it 😂😂😂 and let’s talk about the World Cup Argentina had 3 goals disallowed again Saudi which almost knocked them out the group, Holland also had 12 minutes added on when Argentina was winning and went on to score also they gave France 2 pens in the final and one of them was in the last few minutes and if you use your eyes and brains literally only one pen they got shouldn’t have been a pen and if you remove all pens they still would have won the World Cup so stop crying mate you just need to except it now you say Messi should have doen more with his international career well lest have a look at Messis Argentina team for most of his career Sergio Romero Garay Demichellis rojo Zabaleta Mascherano Rodriguez Di Maria Messi higuain Tevez So how is that a world class team that was there team in 2014- 2010 there team in 2018 is even worse than this so what you on about Argentina only started to get a good team together In like 2020 Portugal team is Diego cost Ruben Dias Pepe Cancelo Mendes Vitinha Palhinha Silva Ronaldo Fernandes Leo They have had this quality team for like 4 years the same amount of time Argentina have had there’s so stop making shit up and please tell me how Ronaldo carried Portugal to win the euros with 3 goals against Hungary and wales and 3 assists but Messi didnt carry his team scoring 7 goals and 3 assists against top teams And now you said Messi didn’t deserve the ballon dor in 2019 you do realise that was probably the most complete version of Messi of all time 68 g/a in 50 games with a poor Barca team 😂😂😂 and now lewandoski Messi literally better stays on literally everything and also won more trophies the only thing lewandoski had over Messi was about 12 goals and he was a striker Messi wasn’t and with Haaland Messi was only 3 g/a away from him with a world cup so again pipe it 😂😂😂 and your talking about 901 goals but yet Messi has a better gaols record take away pens and Messi is like 4 goals behind him in 150 odd games less Mate anyone with a brain says Messi is better that’s why all the top managers say that atleast Ronald has his own RUclips channel now that’s something you lot can celebrate
@@Cameron0548 stopped reading at “He joined a Juventus team with 9 titles in a row”, he joined Juventus at 7 in a row and helped them complete 9 in a row, no ball knowledge as usual from Messi fan boys. I’m not a Ronaldo fan boy I actually used to prefer Messi as a person but as a football fan who actually played football at a good level and knows what he’s talking about Ronaldo is the better player, some of us started watching football before 2022…
@@NP-qq8fz no I know juventus won 7 before before but they still won 9 in a row 😂😂😂 and mate I played academy level when I was 9 to 17 it Messi is a much better footballer
If you think messis better your probably short possibly afraid of women no one will remember messi in years to come every top youngster wants to be Ronaldo and his legacy will continue through them I’ve never seen someone want to be messi
Messi fanboys are just extreme with it your not allowed to prefer Ronaldo for some weird reason😂 Messi has always played for better teams and worse leagues
Toney can't be top 5 as he is in Saudi and in 2yrs time at the 2026 World Cup, he'll be useless unless moving back to Europe. The top 5 are 1. Harry Kane 2. Dominic Solanke 3. Wilson/Welback 4. Abraham/Delap 5. Nketia/Stansfield
This was never, ever a debate. Some people seem to think it was decided after Messi won the World Cup, but Ronaldo always been a better player by absolute light years. Undisputed goat. That dwarf is a comofrt zone system player who bottles big games.
CR7 might not be equal to Messi's level technically but his strength,mentally and determination put him equal to Messi,or better than him in his own ways.
@@freddie_brady9221 mate Ronaldo main thing and his only thing is goals but yet Messi has a better goal record than Ronaldo 😂😂 Messi is the best playmaker of all time all you need is a set of eyes about 5% of a brain and a tv to realise that Messi is better than
@@freddie_brady9221A better dribbler, A better goal scorer, A better creator of chances, don't dive, has better synergy with his teammates, won more , happy when his team scores even if he doesn't. The list goes on and on
6:18 Theo Baker saying Sadio Mane was one of the players to play in the Euro's who also plays in Saudi is possibly up there with one of the worst takes this channel has seen..
he’s actually such a doofus
Theo please stop talking
Bruh click off
@@Alwheewhere’s Tom “bruh”
The glaze is unreal@@O19BK
Theo’s ability to argue something with chest and consistently be completely wrong needs to have its own double page in a Guinness world records book
No garrat no party
Chrismd subbing in for him might be even worse
@@aapskillsagreed, shocking downfall
Gargle gargle gargle
This was never, ever a debate. Some people seem to think it was decided after Messi won the World Cup, but he’s always been a better player by absolute light years. Undisputed goat.
yeh its just ronaldo fan boys back in the day that were pushing it
and theres also endless arguments for the debate being over in 2011 lmao, if you dont even count any stats and ask whos the footballer ever its messi - big gap, ronaldo then about 4-5 players
@@adam-z9e2jthe gap isn’t that big . But yes messi is better
keep coping, Ronaldo is the goat
@@ElDragow extremely persuasive argument
6:38 is where they start talking about messi and ronaldo
thanks but i’d like to watch the whole video, i like these guys
The greatest ever compliment ronaldo has received is that he spent most his career being compared to messi
anyone that thinks the messi ronaldo debate is close is braindead . Messi is so so far clear
He’s not but keep saying what keeps you happy
@@gary_ksa6681 guess we found the braindead person
@@gary_ksa6681😂😂 the only thing Ronaldo had over Messi is goals and yet Messi still has a better goal record
@@gary_ksa6681 You are projecting, messi is statisically factually better so you are the one saying what keeps you happy
@@gary_ksa6681shuuush
Whenever someone tells me Ronaldo is better I automatically know they have bad ball knowledge
Messi has always been a better footballer. He's statistically a better goalscorer whilst providing 200 more assists and being a more important part of a team in every game he plays
How can someone watch Messi and Ronaldo and come to the conclusion that Ronaldo is better its mental
Theo doesn’t watch football
Just😊
Ronaldo is better, keep coping you deluded fanboy
because we have eyes, unlike you
@@ElDragow 😂😂😂
Surely there’s not still people who actually think Ronaldo is better than Messi 🤣🤣
its just casuals who prefer ronalfos appearance brand and celebrations, no one that knows football thinks he is better
@@edenjorginho8604 ronaldos honestly miles ahead
@@lc1063 seek help then brother.
@@lc1063I hope for your sake you’re joking
@@arthurrobertson2126 just because you watched the World Cup and a few messi montages on tik tok it doesn’t make him better😭ronaldo forever the goat. The debate is forced by Barcelona fans, Argentinians or just ronaldo haters
No Garratt no party unfortunately, see you on backside.
He’s an obnoxious clown.
As much as they are both brilliant players this isn’t a debate anymore…Messi is clear and the much better player
Ronaldo is better, keep coping you deluded fanboy
You're the type a guy to say that based off a 7 game tournament out of their primes😂 in their prime years ronaldo was better
@@kf1809🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean ronaldo is closer to 3 and 4th of all time then he is to messi 1@@kf1809
@@kf1809 he just wasnt tho lmao
I agree messi is clear but we should give credit to ronaldo for making messi look somewhat human.
@@mfcchris499 fantastic comment
Cr7 never made Messi look human 😂😂 think before u type..
Zip it up when your done Theo
Tom used to do my head in but he’s now by far my favourite part of the show
Most boring debate of all time. It's Messi, and that's been clear for a while now.
Ronaldo is better, keep coping you deluded fanboy
Wrong
@@razzinho17well it’s not
@@Cameron0548it is
Easy to say when you’ve used growth hormones for the best of a decade 🥴
thinking the Messi v Ronaldo debate was ever a debate in the first place is a litmus test for your ball knowledge
To be fair the "first place" was like 2015ish, and then it was a toss-up.
I don’t agree. Messi was always better in my book but since Messi won the World Cup there’s this argument that it was never close which is just not true at all.
@@zacharysmackary8307 it hasn’t been close since 2014, even then, Ronaldo has never had close to the dribbling, passing, and iq that Messi has, i actually feel bad that Ronaldo has to compare to Messi, but Messi is just clear of every and anyone, a pair of eyeballs tells you that straight away, but also his numbers and statistics, trophies, he has all that backing his case aswell.
@@flamesteak I think Messi is better but this "it was not even close" daft argument is proof of how recency bias works, Messi is a better footballer but we also judge footballers on efficiency and clutch moments which propelled Ronaldo to be on his level for like 2 decades, this whole it wasn't even close because Ronaldo has been terrible for 2 years is so cringe.
@@maninform3523 Ronaldo worked really hard to perfect his body, but if you watch both of them for 90 minutes, the only aspect where it is close is goal scoring. And Messi is still more efficient from every distance and has a better per game ratio
Glad to have Reev Back
Theo saying Sadio mane for players who played in the euros🤩🤩 this guy doesn’t hit
Messi is having a better shot conversion percentage than Ronaldo.
It’s hilarious that Ronaldo is disrespected HEAVILY.
Messi is comfortably Number 1 of all-time for most people…yet Ronaldo is left out of many people’s top 5 players ever…but he has destroyed the same era that Messi has “cleared”…even more so than Messi in some areas.
How can there be such a disparity?
Cristiano, in 2008 was the one who had the spotlight over Messi..as a goalscorer? No, he was known for his dribbling back then.
He is the best in the air, has elite movement has the most left-footed goals of our era behind Salah and Messi…but he is right footed…
Messi is the best. Ronaldo is second. And it is close
I love how you guys always bring up 2008..Messi been playing the same since he was 3 years old ..and he only got better with age ..don't tell me about cr7's injury which brought down his dribbling stats .. that's bull .. Messi got an injury that could have ended his career aswell ..he came back even better than before ..
No one disrespected Ronaldo when Messi won the world cup. The disrespect started when CR fanboys started crying that the copa america and world cup were rigged. That's what got to people. Seriously I have never seen Messi fans starting the debate, it's always a cr7 fan. CR is a better striker than Messi but as an overall player Messi is so much better.
Here after Gomes dropped a 10/10. Anyone that watched him in the 21s knows how good he is. Don’t remember him giving the ball away at all tonight. Completely controlled the game on his own
"my downfall is being able to articulate my thoughts" just what you want on a podcast
Anyone who ever entertained the forced “debate” was a naive casual fan. Messi was the best goal scorer and creator at the same time, Ronaldo was an average creator at best.
Ronaldo is better, keep coping you deluded fanboy
Why are u here lmao
Average at best?
@@Ali-fb5km If u think Ronaldo has the same ability as Messi on creating then ur just delusional.
@@draza9000 did i say that?
My biggest issue with this video is how reev has his ipad where the camera is at the bottom.....
There was a slight debate when they were both in LaLiga
just in terms of goalscoring, in pure football Messi is far above and the thing he is not even hungry or selfish for goals
Ronaldo isn’t even a better goalscorer lmao, Messi has a better goal/game ratio
theo acting like lee carsley wasn’t one of the top dogs for the job, i better on him as soon as southgate resigned 😭
The fact that theo actually believes the pele training meme 😂😂
Theo talking out of his ring as usual. The reason Ronaldo gets disrespect is because he's an egomaniac who talks crap about everyone else. Messi could of retired at 25 and still been better than ronaldo
reev is still not back yet????
Eh
Who?
W Theo for not taking Finasteride a day in his life
Theo is for sure gonna have a video on yt soon with Ronaldo or his son in Saudi.
The biggest proof that there's people that see football but not watch it are Ronaldo fans, they are absolutely casuals at the peak at their capacities
The fact that people call ronaldo hard work and messi talent had always been the greatest disrespect to Ronaldo thought his career
Not even going to watch bc Chris does my head in, Ronaldo is and always has been the goat, I can give messi his flowers but you can’t argue with someone that has (and is the only person ever) 900+ goals and done it in multiple leagues including the prem
multiple league argument is stupid, messi literally has a better record against the prem big 6 than ronaldo
Ah yes cause goals in the camel league mean more than Europe and World Cup goals
@@danzendler7158 take away the saudi goals he’s still got more than messi, and I promise you 67 goals in saudi is better than 6 penalties at the World Cup
@@Musakhan23901 bc he plays them once a blue moon on a big champions league night for one of the greatest teams to ever exist, playing prem ball week in week out is a lot different to playing them on a Tuesday night for a ucl fixture
@@lc1063 was the greatest team only because of messi himself, you think nottingham forest are any better than celta vigo 🤣🤣🤣, dont talk to me premtard
Theo is right about the goal scoring record for once 😂
All u need to do is watch one messi game and u know he’s the best ever. It’s just different, 99% the stuff Messi does doesn’t go on a stat sheet and he’s still statistically the best ever.
there is no debate
Messi is the greatest player ever
Ronaldo is the greatest scorer ever
It’s not rocket science
I was today years old finding out diplo was part of Major Lazer 😮
Reev I’m gonna kiss you
When you see Messi play you can see the entire goal being created and scored. Ronaldo will pop up at the last moment to score the goal. This is not all the time but most times that's what happens. Messi passes the eye test and stats back him up too.
Ronaldo is the undisputed no 2 OAT. Messi is no 1!
8:55 is one of the most disrespectful statements of all time. „Ronaldo is way closer to Maradona/Pele than he is to Messi“.
First of all Ronaldo is definitely not ahead of Pele or Maradona in the all time rankings, and implying that he is, without any doubt, just shows a complete lack of football knowledge.
Secondly, to imply Messi so far gone as the goat is one of the worst takes in the history of football, that simply shows a complete neglect of previous eras. There are legitimate arguments to be made that he is neither clear of Pele or Maradona, so to suggest it isn‘t a debate is absurd.
so who do you think is better
@@Cameron0548 My top 3 all time are Maradona, Messi, Pele, in that order. Although you can rearrange them in any order you like and its fine, because we are talking about the smallest of margins here.
Statistically, Pele probably has the best case for being the GOAT, but the only reason I don‘t have him #1 is that there simply isn‘t enough video footage of him, and I find it tough to put a guy at #1 that I haven‘t really have seen play.
Cristiano is either 4 or 5 right now.
Ronaldo is a better goalscorer is such a not true statement.
Messi took less shots scored more goals who cares how he did it. It ended up in the back of the net more efficiently.
He's won 6 European golden boots
pessi stayed in 1 club all his life and became a garbage scorer as soon as he left barca, while Ronaldo has done it everywhere.
And during their time in spain, Ronaldo is the one with the better ratio. so keep coping
@@ElDragow😂😂😂 check again mate
@@ElDragowRonaldo needs good midfiel and defence, so he just wait for crosses near the net for goals all his career, Messi himself is a playmaker, goalscorer, assister for the team, Ronaldo has done nothing, he was always served. Messi is just better in every way
Theo speaking facts
Why is reevs iPad not the same way as the others, genuinely pissing me off
Lewis saying Sadio Mane hasn't won a premier league 😍😍
Toney
Theo wants a collab with ronaldo it’s so obvious 😂
How does a group of lads in their 20's/30's who have a football show still know nothing about football?
The fact Messi is even remotely close to Ronaldo in goals is freaky enough, because he is better even without the goals.
Messi is literally the greatest of all time and 99% of top elite footballers will say Messi is the GOAT, even before the World Cup.
The comments at the bottom of this video are why I’m sick and tired of the Messi Ronaldo debate. Too much tribalism that is still going on even as both men hit 40.
Dont understand how it was a debate until Messi won a rigged World Cup
Trust me no one could debate with a dumb football fan who straight claims that the biggest sport competition of all time was rigged for one person which gives the organization nothing because Ronaldo has more following and he is more famous. you just can't debate ball with them
Soon they’re both going to be retired and football as a whole will be worse off. I prefer Ronaldo due to the sheer joy he brought me on the pitch but I enjoy both. End of the day it doesn’t matter. Just enjoy them both
Holy shit....I agree with Lewis. Is it opposite day
Can’t be the only one who thought rice not celebrating was embarrassing? Cant celebrate for your country then don’t bother playing
Chris says its no close but is the first to bring it up for no reason ????
Acting like messi isnt bang average in the MLS
Theo is such a hypocrite crying about how Ronaldo gets disrespected and then going to discredit the career of Pele.
Fact of the matter is, Pele is way clear of Ronaldo in all facets of the game and I doubt that will change anytime soon.
Imagine talking about washed history FC players in big 2024 😭😭
You can claim Ronaldo is the better goal scorer probably the best ever in that regard, but Messi is the best player ever ✨
By 2025 Toney could be back in the prem
Tom isn't here, this is gonna be a long watch
You know Theo’s waffling because his voice cracks, even his body knows he has no ball knowledge
Im personally a ronaldo guy, i like his playstyle more, if you preger messi thats fine, but if you dont put ronaldo second at least your wrong, they Are clearly the two best players off all time.
I think maradona is better than ronaldo
Ronaldo is firmly 2nd
dude maradona and r9 were leagues better than cristiano
@@kratosishere8564 😂 have a day off hating bro, just look at the stats
@@daniel30000i did you Watch maradona?
Great Reev is back and Carrot is gone, #CarrotComeBack
why is messi just left out of the best goal scorer bit lmao
Ah yes... For 15 years these two were taking turns winning ballon dors and golden boots, the world used to stop to watch them play in the el clasico... fans and commentators were constantly fighting to see who truly was the best and for years people marveled at how lucky we were to be born in the era of the two greatest players that the world has ever seen... But according to some twats who have always despised ronaldo or for some reason let this last 2/3 years mold their opinion, it was "never a debate" 😂
😂😂😂 your delusional if you think he’s better
Messi has a better goal scoring record than Ronaldo. Ronaldo has more but Messi has better numbers
why is theo so DUMB, like is he actually serious 😭😭😭
Can we just stop this debate over Messi and Ronaldo? It’s been going on for years, I’m tired of hearing about it. BTW my opinion only, Messi is the better player. Ronaldo as good as he is, he’s at the point of holding back younger Portugal players yet none of the coaches want to hurt his feelings. Lastly I hope the 2026 World Cup is the last tournament both players participate in. Both aren’t far off 40. Ronaldo will be 41 in 2026 and Messi 39. No one wants to see Messi at the 2030 World Cup or Ronaldo at the 2028 euros and the 2030 World Cup.
The only argument for Ronaldo is multiple leagues and multiple teams and the consistency. La Liga is a weak league outside of the top 3.
No it’s not laliga was comfortably the 2nd best league
@@Cameron0548 no I meant outside the top 3 teams, not actual league ranking
This isn`t a debate it was never a debate. Messi is the GOAT
trying to force this after the World Cup win is just sad at this point, Theo move on.
2024 and we are still talking about messi and ronaldo. they are both in retirement leagues let them be bruh
Yeah even I’m tired of it going on. I’m sure both will be at it in 2 years time but I hope the 2026 World Cup is the last tournament Messi and Ronaldo are in and the last bit of football they do altogether. I don’t want to see either still playing after that. 2026 World Cup should be the swan song of their careers
@@robertnapier624neither of them are gonna play in the 2026 world cup
@@robertnapier624 neither of them are playing in that world cup lol, MAYBE on the bench but i dont even see that
Ronaldo isn’t even the better goal scorer, messis goal to game ratio, minute per goal and shot to goal ratios are all better and he has more golden boots. Ronaldo is the more complete goalscorer, has more ways of scoring, but he isn’t the better goal scorer, or the goat for that matter
No Cole palmer is a better penalty taker than toney
10:55
I shouldn’t even entertain these Messi fan boys and football hipsters but where do I even start. Ronaldo has done it at club level in the 3 best leagues in the world, Messi has only done it in one of those surrounded by world class players. Ronaldo has done it being surrounded with average players at Juventus and Manchester United the second time round. You look at the big games at club level in particular champions league knockout games, Messi ghosted in the majority from 2016 onwards while the goat Ronaldo showed up and scored hat trick after hat trick when his team mates ghosted carrying them and hence why he has won more champions leagues. Messi is now 37 and playing in a terrible standard of footballing league while Ronaldo at that age was playing in the best league in the world, again scoring goals and salvaging some sort of pride for an abysmal Manchester United team. Then of course we move on to the only real argument you Messi fan boys have, the World Cup and I won’t go down the route of its controversy with the decisions favouring Argentina throughout the tournament and instead will point out with the players Messi’s been surrounded with at Argentina throughout the years he should’ve won much more at the international level and bottled the 2014 World Cup and 2015 & 2016 copa America’s. Ronaldo would’ve won much more than Messi at international level if he had been surrounded with such a class of player, however believe it or not as I know the majority of you Messi fan boys started watching football in 2021, Ronaldo had very poor team mates throughout the majority of his international career and despite this managed to carry them to two international trophies. Don’t get me started on the joke of an award that is the ballon d’or that saw Messi rob Virgil Van Dijk in 2019 who had been dribbled past 0 times and won a champions league narrowly missing out on the premier league double, Lewandowski in 2021 and treble winning and record breaking in the premier league Haaland in 2023, it clearly showed that the ballon d’or is nothing more than a popularity contest. How it’s even a debate that a player who only thrived in one league, surrounded with world class players and playing in a similar footballing system the full time can be compared to a player so versatile who has carried teams in different leagues, footballing systems and situations is beyond me. The 901 goal man Cristiano Ronaldo is clear, however for those of you Messi fan boys and football hipsters who have actually took the time to read this and haven’t resorted to insults and smashing your keyboards with deluded nonsense, I have no bias in this and think Messi is the second best footballer of all time.
😂😂😂 these Ronaldo fan boys man you say Ronaldo has done it at the three best leagues in the world but yet he joined a juventus team that has won 9 leagues in a row a Real Madrid side that is probably top 3 teams of all time and then a poor united team so stop acting like Ronaldo had it hard. And you say Ronaldo has done it in more big games but yet Messi has 50 g/a in in 49 games in finals and Ronaldo has 25 g/a in 38 games so that makes sense and to say that Messi ghosted in the champions league 2016 onwards but yet in 2018 Messi had 12 goals and 3 assists 4 more than anyone else he had 2 more goals/a in 2019 than ronaldo and in 2020 he had 2 more than Ronaldo so how has Messi ghosted after 2016 in the champions league and your saying Messi is playing at a terrible standard at 37 but yet yet Ronaldo only had 19 g/a in 40 games not that impressive is it 😂😂😂 and let’s talk about the World Cup Argentina had 3 goals disallowed again Saudi which almost knocked them out the group, Holland also had 12 minutes added on when Argentina was winning and went on to score also they gave France 2 pens in the final and one of them was in the last few minutes and if you use your eyes and brains literally only one pen they got shouldn’t have been a pen and if you remove all pens they still would have won the World Cup so stop crying mate you just need to except it
now you say Messi should have doen more with his international career well lest have a look at Messis Argentina team for most of his career
Sergio Romero
Garay
Demichellis
rojo
Zabaleta
Mascherano
Rodriguez
Di Maria
Messi
higuain
Tevez
So how is that a world class team that was there team in 2014- 2010
there team in 2018 is even worse than this so what you on about Argentina only started to get a good team together In like 2020
Portugal team is
Diego cost
Ruben Dias
Pepe
Cancelo
Mendes
Vitinha
Palhinha
Silva
Ronaldo
Fernandes
Leo
They have had this quality team for like 4 years the same amount of time Argentina have had there’s so stop making shit up and please tell me how Ronaldo carried Portugal to win the euros with 3 goals against Hungary and wales and 3 assists but Messi didnt carry his team scoring 7 goals and 3 assists against top teams
And now you said Messi didn’t deserve the ballon dor in 2019 you do realise that was probably the most complete version of Messi of all time 68 g/a in 50 games with a poor Barca team
😂😂😂 and now lewandoski Messi literally better stays on literally everything and also won more trophies the only thing lewandoski had over Messi was about 12 goals and he was a striker Messi wasn’t
and with Haaland Messi was only 3 g/a away from him with a world cup so again pipe it 😂😂😂 and your talking about 901 goals but yet Messi has a better gaols record take away pens and Messi is like 4 goals behind him in 150 odd games less
Mate anyone with a brain says Messi is better that’s why all the top managers say that atleast Ronald has his own RUclips channel now that’s something you lot can celebrate
@@Cameron0548 stopped reading at “He joined a Juventus team with 9 titles in a row”, he joined Juventus at 7 in a row and helped them complete 9 in a row, no ball knowledge as usual from Messi fan boys. I’m not a Ronaldo fan boy I actually used to prefer Messi as a person but as a football fan who actually played football at a good level and knows what he’s talking about Ronaldo is the better player, some of us started watching football before 2022…
@@NP-qq8fz no I know juventus won 7 before before but they still won 9 in a row 😂😂😂 and mate I played academy level when I was 9 to 17 it Messi is a much better footballer
If you think messis better your probably short possibly afraid of women no one will remember messi in years to come every top youngster wants to be Ronaldo and his legacy will continue through them I’ve never seen someone want to be messi
Ah yes the legacy of an alleged rapist and the massive ego whilst being nowhere near Messi 😂😂😂
Theo when someone says cr7 top 3 players of all time😡😡😡🤬
Theo insulting dead pele😂😂😂🎉
Messi is sooooooooo clear,whoever say they are close..is braindead..,messi dont have san marino,andorra,Leichfkingsomthing to statspad
Ronaldo will forever be the Goat along With Messi
Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo. Ronaldo only has more goals cause he’s been playing longer. Not to mention has more golden boots….
Ronaldo > Messi
😂😂😂
MD shut up. Messi world cup was a fluke and btw, Ronaldo has been disrespected his whole career. Top 3 is disrespectful. His number 1.
Seth I hate to brake it to you but this is why you have no mate
There’s a reason ur comments at the bottom of the comment section sitting with zero likes Seth, come on do better
Messi fanboys are just extreme with it your not allowed to prefer Ronaldo for some weird reason😂 Messi has always played for better teams and worse leagues
Because it is delusional to think Ronaldo is better than
@@Cameron0548 exactly my point 90% of you lot are knobheads
Better teams because he’s in them, not rocket science
@@grez367 so Barca with pique puyol alba busquets xavi iniesta etc wouldn’t have won any leagues
@@ArchieSimpson-s8emadrid have won 3 league titles since ronaldo left 6 years ago and only won 2 with him in 9 years 😂😂😂
How’s it still a debate, Messi has quite literally completed football
Ronaldo is better, keep coping you deluded fanboy
he quite literally hasn't completed it, dwarf couldn't win the french cup at psg despite psg winning it for ten years straight before pessi came
@@ElDragow😂😂😂 juventus won the serie for 9 leagues in a row then Ronaldo bottled it up
@@ElDragow most trophies ever and 8 Ballon D’ors including a World Cup which Ronaldo dreams of having keep coping
Toney can't be top 5 as he is in Saudi and in 2yrs time at the 2026 World Cup, he'll be useless unless moving back to Europe. The top 5 are
1. Harry Kane
2. Dominic Solanke
3. Wilson/Welback
4. Abraham/Delap
5. Nketia/Stansfield
The disrespect to Ronaldo is absolutely unreal considering he is better than FiFa's child
Yet the president of fifa thinks Ronaldo is the best 👍👍 nice one mate
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Cameron0548 there’s video evidence of him mocking Ronaldo worldwide lil bro 🤣🤣
@@randyjuarez4246 😂😂😂 right whatever you say mate
fifas child 😂😂😂, grow up mate, fifa didnt rig messi being a better goalscorer dribbler and playmaker than ronaldo
Haven’t watched the vid yet. Theo shut it you
This was never, ever a debate. Some people seem to think it was decided after Messi won the World Cup, but Ronaldo always been a better player by absolute light years. Undisputed goat. That dwarf is a comofrt zone system player who bottles big games.
And this is why you don’t have any friends 👍👍
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaa
@@Cameron0548 stop projecting
@@vCharliee amazing argument
Most goals in finals history but go on
CR7 might not be equal to Messi's level technically but his strength,mentally and determination put him equal to Messi,or better than him in his own ways.
Cr7 is closer to pele and maradona then to messi
Strength and determination are now deciding factors in the goat debate?😭
#TheoOut
Messi isn’t even the best Argentine footballer - maradona was ahead of him 🤣🤣
Tell me you’ve never touched a girl without telling me you’ve never touched a girl
only silly insecure children think it's a debate. Ronaldo is by far the best player of all time, not even close.
There’s a reason your comment is at the bottom with zero likes
its the other way round buddy
…. You don’t know ball
Ronaldo is not top 3 of all time and Messi is not the goat (he is top 3 of all time though).
messi so much better
The fact people think messi is better is just stupid. Ronaldo is 10x better in every attribute apart from passing.
Bro studies Theo bakers ball knowledge
@@Cameron0548 Keep crying, please tell me one thing Messi has on Ronaldo
@@freddie_brady9221 mate Ronaldo main thing and his only thing is goals but yet Messi has a better goal record than Ronaldo 😂😂 Messi is the best playmaker of all time all you need is a set of eyes about 5% of a brain and a tv to realise that Messi is better than
@@freddie_brady9221A better dribbler, A better goal scorer, A better creator of chances, don't dive, has better synergy with his teammates, won more , happy when his team scores even if he doesn't. The list goes on and on
The only thing I can boldly say Ronaldo is better at is scoring headers