Bruh it's mad how they thought a guy who has Messi tattooed on his back and a guy who literally is trying to look like Ronaldo would be objective or impartial in any way. They're both clearly way too starstruck to accept any new perspectives regardless of what's being said
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
@@denz6959 the Messi fan is just offering up opinions as facts. Man was asked how is the copa with Brazil and Uruguay harder than the euros OR nations league with France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Belgium and even England now, and he said "copa is just as hard, ask anyone"😂😂😂as for the Ronaldo guy, he's clearly been reading a bunch of Ronaldo stats online but there's almost no substance to any of his arguments. Just seems interested in copping out of giving Messi any credit whatsoever
There's a difference between wearing a Utd Kit + hair that at a stretch resembles Ronaldo and having a back tattoo that's like a shrine for Messi. I get he's a superfan but how you gonna dedicate your whole back to another man 😂
If you say that anyone has "just as good dribbling" as Messi, you have not watched or just cannot fathom the magic that this man creates with the ball at his feet
Agreed. Although I'd rather have Ronaldo in my squad because of how much he motivates a good team, great example is him becoming second manager for Portugal winning the euros with him injured on the sideline
Exactly, imagine thinking ronaldo has the same ability as messi in dribbling. Messi has dribbled effortlessly through countless teams and scored, you can’t say the same about ronaldo. Not forgetting he scored 91 goals in a calendar year, Messi is the GOAT.
These guys are the real life versions of twitter stan accounts. I am a messi fan because I prefer his style of play but that doesn't mean I "hate" ronaldo. Infact I love him too. Anyone who discredit either messi or ronaldo is not a football fan.
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
Think it's still not possible to make the statement that both are the two best players ever. It may be true, but a lot of people just forget what kind of players the likes of Maradona, Cruijff, Pele & Eusebio were
@@nathanielknight1838 the Brazilian league was literally the hardest league in the world back then do your research rather than just assuming that the Brazilian league was bad back then cuz you don't know anything about it
@@jarnemelk the only ones out of those 4 that could possibly compare are Maradona and pele. The reason i dont think pele is above is because he only played in brazil. Imagine if for example messi played in Argentina, he would score a hattrick every game and Maradona took ped's which for me takes him out of the discussion. Also if pele had played today he wouldnt be even close to the top of the game because the game has evolved so much. The defenders now are so much better than back then
@@zimeez7760 because the united fan had the audacity to say that he has the same dribbling ability as Messi, he deserved to get ruined for even thinking that.
@@t.t4334ronaldo won portugal their only major trophies made them qualify to the wc 5 times in a row they couldn't do that without him and is top goal scorer for portugal and international oat he will fs be remembered
The Messi fan is probably jsut sick to death of Ronaldo fans thinking he’s the goat because he’s handsome. Every single stat in the world of football is in Messi’s favour except most goals and being handsome and muscular. Messi literally thrashes Ronaldo in every single stats known to football except most goals. Messi is by miles clear Ronaldo fans just can’t accept it bc Messi isn’t as handsome with a 6 Pack and it sickens actual football fans not deluded closeted gays
As a Chelsea fan, Messi is the best by a good distance. If we're talking dribbling, C.Ronaldo is miles behind. That Man Utd fan is a typical Man Utd fan.
Yeah I don’t know who he thinks he was trying to convince with that, if your trying to claim Ronaldo is better than Messi then dribbling is something you want to stay away from. He should’ve replaced dribbling with technicality
Nah seems like he's just being idiotic. I think most UTD fans know the difference between the tricks, step-overs etc (that CR7 produced in his prime) and actual dribbling - Cristiano, although was very strong moving with the ball, is nowhere near Messi (or even Giggs) in that sense
@@benjyjosephb you say that as if Cristiano was amazing against Chelsea. In all his years, he only scored ONCE against Chelsea. Even that was only because Michael Essien was playing at right back and he could jump higher than Essien to head the ball. Other than that, Ashley Cole had him in the back pocket. At least Messi troubled and created chances against Chelsea
According to the stats, as of the time of this video... Ronaldo's prime dribbling season was in the 05/06 season at Man United when he was 20 years old with around 4.17 dribbles per 90 minutes. Which is still lower than Messi's worst dribbling season in 20/21 at Barca, when he was 33 years old with around 4.27 dribbles per 90 minutes. 😭💀 now that's cold af
@@mess436 he failed constantly for Argentina throughout his entire prime. He had to wait for his team around him to get better and for Di Maria to show up in finals. Messi was never the same player for Argentina as he was for Barca.
@@Johndoe-gf7eu Messi has more career goals per game than Ronaldo and the highest goal scoring season ever, calendar year ever, and has more goals in the last decade during both of their primes.. they are on par when it comes to scoring NOT anything else
@@cokedoutmarkhamill8179 you’re the problem of what’s wrong with the Messi and Ronaldo fanboys. Never appreciate both and call them pessi and penaldo. Just stfu and be glad that you’re watching TWO great players.
ronaldo definitely had a period from around 06-13 where he was a top 3 dribbler in the world every year,to act like he couldnt dribble is disrespectful
End of the day no one is looking at stuff in the future and going ‘oo he was the best of all time cos he could dribble the best’ they are gonna see the most goals in history and go off that….
The disrespect to south American football from some Europeans is unbelievable. South American football is the deepest when you consider the amount of countries they have. A lot of big European teams would struggle to qualify for the world cup in conmebol
Bruh it’s propably true, considering how dirt the copa America is nowadays especially. Canada, USA, Ecuador, lots of crap teams in there. Europe there’s a lot less as well as the top nations such as France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy .
@@ortox409 You're yapping mate. Nations League is closer to a Finalissima game than it is to Copa America. But i get it, the fans are just like their idol - deluded. Pendu came out yesterday saying that winning a Euro for Portugal is equivalent to winning the World Cup, which it in no way is. No yapping's gonna change that.
We're talking about the 2 greatest. Imo it's very understandable considering they're the 2 most followed on the planet too. They've transcended the sport..but discrediting the other isn't acceptable
So, a guy who's clearly never kicked a football properly calls Messi "Frodo Baggins" and expects to be taken seriously? Give me a break! Messi and Ronaldo are both giants of the game, we're just lucky to have experienced them both. Age is catching up with both, enjoy them while we still can and stop squabbling over stats and allegiance.
I'm sorry that Messi fan is delusional, its not a CR7 thing either. He's got tattoos all over the place, he is extremely subjective, gets defensive, answers with questions and twist the question asked to fit his narrative.
"Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play?" "No. Have you?" "No." That's why I hate reading comments in Twitter and Reddit. Because of dumb arguments like that.
@@One.Zero.One101 bro I was fuming how he wouldn’t accept the other guy saying Maradona is better than Messi because he’s never seen him play but was ok saying Messi is better than Maradona even tho he’s never seen him play
Ronaldo said 4 years ago he doesn't dribble like his peak years. We all know that in 2014 tendinosis also had something to do with it. If the dude himself says he doesn't dribble like he used too why even bring it up.
Yeah, meanwhile Messi was walking through the entire peak Madrid team in 2011... To quote the famous commentator Peter Drury's reaction to Messi's goal: "And here's Messi....away from 2, 3, 4....wonderful, wonderful, wonderful... How good is he? A mere supernatural goal from Lionel Messi! He has wriggled and tiptoed his way to the gates of Wembley Stadium. He is just brilliant. Best player in the world, bar none." look at the pace, look at the speed, the control and finish. You can't touch him, you can't get near him."
@@ayaan3616 yeah bro that's true for a single match and are you still stuck with that match till now?? Since 2009-10 stats, Cr7 had 936 successful dribbles (1.81 dribbles per 90min) meanwhile Lionel Messi have a whopping number of 2433 successful dribbles (4.36 per 90min)... 🔥🔥
As a person who thinks Messi is the greatest player football has ever produced, and a person that absolutely hates manchester united, i have to say, that Ronaldo fan is calm and fair, and that messi fan is off his medication
You didn't have to give Ronaldo a chance either. It's not like Messi made those rushes every game. Ronaldo has hit top bins from 40 yards out more times than Messi dribbled all across the pitch to put it in the net
@@xtremexx1191 Ronaldo has got exactly 2 goals that are 40 yard-ish. The one against Porto and the freekick against arsenal. I just did a little bit of research, maybe I missed a goal or 2, but he doesn't even have 10% of Messi's solo goals (40 yard shots for CR7).
As a fan of both, this has got to be the most cringiest thing ive ever saw 🤣🤣🤣two grown men arguing about footballers 🤣one has a tattoo of them aswell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Both are gods of the game and it is embarrassing that people can't just love them both and squabble over petty nonsense. The hate both players receive online is ridiculous but I guess that's the price of greatness.
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What is embarassing is that people consider those two washed ups still relevant now. Ronaldo is literally mid table in the prem, meanwhile Messi is one of the weakest and uneffective wingers in Ligue 1 with a single goal to his name. They were the best, but they are SHIT now and we should focus on the best players right now and stop giving them attention. I’m so happy the Penaldo/Pessi monopolized era is over for some time.
You know everything is done for content and views. You'll see every now and then this types of vids in every channel and then people arguing in comment section 🤷🏻♂️
*We agree that Messi and Ronaldo are great players* Ronaldo fan: "I think they're both phenomenal players" Messi fan: "Messi is the best, simple as that" This is what Meesi fans in general say when people are giving credit to Ronaldo and Messi, it is just sad honestly
it is because messi is clearly levels above cr7, who is still one of the greatest players of all time. goals ratio, assists ratio, dribbling, ability to create a big chance, ballon dors, golden boots, motms. messi is miles better everywhere, if you are not madrid or man u fan you know it as clear as a day.
@@bigshaq6062 i get what ur saying and i respect it but the question wasnt about who is better, it was about if they are great players, that is the problem with messi fans, always talk about messi and his 7 ballon dors as if anyone asked or cared, as if he is a god and you lot worship him
The rivalry was what propelled them to that level of greatness IMO. You cannot be a fan of one without acknowledging the other. They kept pushing each other to be better. At the peak of their powers undoubtedly none could even compare to them. The story at the time too, Cristiano vs Messi, Barca vs Madrid, A guy who was undersized but had the touch and a guy built himself physically to dominate. These 2 are on a level of their own.
crazy how the 2 best players are Literally the opposite of each other interms of playstyle and personality. Even played for the top 2 best teams in the league😂 Only God could write a script like that
Straight away the ronaldo fan mentioned big international teams yet said spain, but people just need to appreciate both players, everyone has opinions on who is the best, but people become so ignorant they fail to appreciate the other, and they're missing out big time
Before Messis debut Real Madrid had 6 more UCL than Barca... After Messi they had big players like Xavi Iniesta Neymar the tiki taka style the Guardiola era, 2 Treble and now Madrid have 13 UCL and Barca are now 8 UCL behind 😂
@@CocoKobiee hes not a spurs fan, hes a player fan, its embarrassing. What man is a fan of another man? You follow a team, the team of where you're from. These lot just supports whoever is the best. Probably a Fury, Khabib, Bolt and Ronaldo fan. Can guarantee hes not from London! Probably supports Brazil too
Messi for me. Two unbelievable players absolute ballers. I'm just shocked the real goat James milner is not in this conversation He can play midfield left back goalkeeper you name it Milly's there
Messi can control games, Ronaldo can’t. Ronaldo scored half of his goals poaching as the CF, quality of goals matter and the standard is just higher for Messi in that department.
I honestly hate it so much when people don't give respect to ronaldo. Idk who is the best but both of these two are top2 best players ever to exist. It's so delusional.
@@anthony98339 what an absolute abysmally shit point that is, like bottom of the bottom, Messi spent his whole career since he was 17 in la liga and Ronaldo moved in his prime, if Ronaldo didn't have a better goal ratio than Messi in La Liga it would be very concerning for the so called "goat"
@@asianwarrior2193 no hes right when ronaldo moved to la liga in 2009 from that point onwards till he left la liga he had a better goal to gam ratio mate
Neither is awful to watch. Both are incredible players who have achieved amazing stats and achieved many accolades. And will continue to achieve until they are ready to retire...facts or major big facts?
But they're finished now One is ghosting big games and only scoring easy goals While the other have only 1 goal and is failing in a farmers league Sad truth
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈 tricks I do not know Megan: "Hotter" Hopi: "Sweeter" Joonie: "Cooler" Yoongi: "Butter So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today. Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım '' Erinder: '' Sezimdüü '' Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak '' Dene: '' Muzdak '' Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis. Aç köz arstan Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon. Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan. Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾 They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising 💗❤️💌💘
@@ghostmaster9700 one is going to win trophies and will qualify to play in UCL next season Whereas the other won’t win any trophies and will probably not finish top 4.. I would say joining PSG was a smart move and joining Man Utd, a stupid move..
Please do a part 2....PLEASE😂 man's said "the things Cristiano has done are going to be talked about more"🤣 The guy was benched, in most of the World cup that Messi just happened to win!!!
This debate is stupid they both will go down as two of the greatest of all time. Ronaldo had mental dribbling at Manchester United but from all years combined no one can compete with Messi’s dribbling and just looking at all other attributes , they both have strengths in different areas you cannot discredit either whatsoever
Ronaldo strength is goalscoring. Messi has that and a lot more. The 3 most important attacking attributes by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling. Messi is 10/10 in all and ronaldo is only 10/10 finishing.
Settling the cr7 vs messi debate: ( For both I am talking about their prime) Shooting-Cr7 Heading-cr7 Weak foot-cr7 Penalties-cr7 Skills-cr7 Pace-cr7 Physical-cr7 Big game player-cr7 Clutch-cr7 Leadership-cr7 Acrobatic goals-cr7 Passing-messi Dribbling-messi Free Kicks-messi(just) Work rate(on the pitch)-neither Stamina-messi Assists-messi Running the game-messi Crossing-messi GOAT- Both🐐🐐
@@fifalegendguy67 shooting is level at best if not messi. Weak foot is messi he scores free kicks with weak foot lol. Skills is messi he runs through entire teams while ronaldo does stepovers to get past 1 player max. Big game is both. Clutch is also wrong messi has scored more off the bench when needed. End of the day u made 100 categories when the 3 main ones by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling. Messi wins all of them. Only finishing they may be level but in terms of goals per minute messi wins.
@@evilmorty8077 I don't think messi's better at weak foot lol. Don't get me wrong his right foot is dangerous but i think cr's left foot is stronger. Just opinion tho
I feel sorry for those fan boys xD. Messi did everything in his prime, so did Ronaldo. Cristiano in Manchester United was one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen, he could drible any1. He was a showman, but he grew up and decided to focus on goals. Why is that a bad thing? Dont you think he deserve to be in the "GOAT" conversation? I mean ofc it will be kids who Will hate on him, but u cannot deny that hes a genius, he owns the Champions league. Its his competition, and thats facts. He was one of the best players in the Premier league,la liga, séria A. Just like you guys say that Messi can drible the whole 2,3,4 and Cristiano cant, i can say that Messi cant score a long range goal. But thats a lie, Messi scored some badass long range goals like Cristiano scored some goals dribling the defence, you cant deny it. So stop being such a kiddo, when these 2 retire, you all gonna cry, even if u didnt like Messi or Cristiano. Those 2 saved lifes by just playing football. Respect the GOATS
He deserves to be in the conversation but anyone who understands ball knows that Messi's ability will not be seen in another player for a long long time. Dribbling past whole defences, free kicks, shooting with insane precision, the man had it all, except for maybe headers lol
@@AN-nl4fs and Ronaldo dont? Tell me, Dont you think its unfair, he worked his ass off to be a goat and people devalue his work. there is Messi and Cristiano, both are the best players that ever lived on this planet. each of them made each of us fall in love with football, each in his own way. I agree 100% that we will not see another Messi again, he is different, but we will not see another Cristiano either and saying otherwise is the same as saying that he is not one of the best. There is no defined goat, Cristiano is the idol of some Messi is the idol of others, simple. But I have a clear conscience, I enjoyed every moment I saw the two of them play. Comparisons are for kids who haven't seen every stage of each one's career, every evolution, every big moment. I'm grateful that I had the opportunity to be born in time to see them play during their careers
@@morais4450 Ronaldo is a great player easily top 3, but to compare him to messi is just delusional, Ronaldo is known for scoring, messi is known for dribbling,assists/play making, how tf do you even think they're equal
@@marinenico1993 Thats your opinion. Ur the delusional here, your saying that Cristiano its not even close to Messi cause hes known as a goalscorer, wtf is that even mean? The proof that I'm not delusional is the fact that I don't need to belittle Messi to defend Cristiano. You're simply demeaning Cristiano by saying "he's only known for Scoring goals" Goalscorer is Lewa, Suarez, Cavani etc. Cristiano is much more than a goalscorer and you know that, you're just insecure about Messi. But anyway, I can't change the mind of an ignorant
So was the Ronaldo fan, the ballon d’or was a farce because “he plays for PSG and it’s France football” that argument has been on social media countless times. Both were embarrassing
As a Ronaldo fan, I admit that Messi is more talented and composed. But the hard work and dedication of Ronaldo to be at this level is the reason why I prefer him more and that is very inspirational.
Can we all just agree that 1) they are 2 of the best players of all time 2) they have 2 very different play styles 3) the teams/circumstances they've both been in matters and 4) it's a shame they both had to leave La Liga and this last stage in their careers is a throwaway?
This Messi guy is a Messi fanatic. Not a fan. He contradicts himself at every turn. The argument he uses to discredit Ronaldo or Lewandowski is the same one he employs to credit Messi. Please don't have him on your show again. This episode was annoying
@@lonelyking8924 Messi couldn't even score a goal at farmers league and you think Messi is better than Ronaldo! What a clown you are. Messi has lost 3 finals in a row with Argentina missing 2 open chances at the world cup and at UCL Messi has yet to score an away goal beyond RO16 since 2012. Calm down mate. Ronaldo will always be above Messi. Messi is only good at Barca and his crap performances at PSG shows that at age 34 while Ronaldo at 36 was top scorer of serie A and Euro
@@Davidhawk7814 Messi only good at Barca when he literally won for Argentina. Also you don’t need goals to have a good game, Messi has so many assists. Typical ronaldo fans that think goals is everything
I’m a Messi fan but the Messi fan in this vid was a lil crazy but whenever it’s a Messi vs cr7 it always gets crazy. Yes I do think Messi the goat but I would def put cr7! After Messi none of this halaand and Mbappe bs. Def not same lvl as Messi at dribbling tho but that ain’t even a negative. They obv both have their positives and negatives.
I’m not even gonna entertain this video by watching two grown men bicker like children over who they prefer… they’re both the best players we’ve ever seen and been lucky enough to witness them both in our lifetimes
@@-Niggawhat- if I’m mid for an opinion that’s fact then why did Messi win it and not Ronaldo ya mad he ain’t win the champions league and it’s Ronaldo’s former club Real Madrid that gonna go to the final again so stay mad wit yo mid ass team.
If I became a pro footballer tomorrow and in my first ever game scored 5 goals and then decided to never play again, I'd have a better goal record than Ronaldo and messi
You just know the messi fan spends most of his time fighting people after having a curry watching the game on a Sunday night😂 Messi and Ronaldo are as good as each other end off...
I think the best argument for these two, is that you can argue that Messi is a better goal scorer than Ronaldo (better goal ratio), but you can’t argue that Ronaldo is a better play maker than Messi. Edit: I love how all the replies are just arguing who’s the better goal scorer. Proving my point exactly lmao. Even if Messi is half of the goal scorer that Ronaldo is (which isn’t true), he’s like a million times more of a playmaker than Ronaldo is… Edit 2: And if you wanna talk about farmers and shit, basically all of Ronaldo’s international goals are against countries that nobody knows lmaoo. And Messi scored 91 goals in a seasons something that’s completely mental and Ronaldo didn’t even get close to while in la liga….. lmao
@@andrecrispim3209 and still doing it in the most difficult PL of all time whilst messi is the 3rd least effective player in the farmer league. wanna talk statistics there's one
I havent watched the video, but I know whats in there. Straight to the point, For me and for many fotballing greats, Messi is the GOAT. But Ronaldo is just as influential as him and we are so lucky to have them both in the same era.
@@finnmcneil7393 Ronaldo wasn't miles ahead of everyone after his last year at real madrid. Lewa performed way better even in the build up play. Benzema too, after ronaldo left. They contribute way more than him. They can create and dribble past his opponents and they actually press and play for the team and not for themselves.
Messi primarily plays as playmaker. Ronaldo’s playing as a striker for quite a while. Cant compare them with this. Plus messi’s hype is a factor just like the previous ballon dor
@@KiNg-yl8hs ronaldo was more consistent in his performance especially considering he has played on all the top leagues with various managers and players. Sure messi did score against top teams from other leagues but ronaldo did that various time in the prem and the serie a . So obviously Ronaldo had it more challenging than Messi which is why i rate him better
@@KiNg-yl8hs sure stats wise, maybe messi wins. But consider the challenges they faced, ronaldo had it more and still comes out as one of the best each year even at his age.
Yes messi is a better overall player we can't deny that but when you start comparing performances in big tournaments past quarter finals or even international stage... The difference is staggering. You wanna prefer stats and stuff then you can always bring up assists and dribbles but ronaldo has clutched big moments throughout his career. It just amazes me that there are so many Messi fans who actually believe Ronaldo is a horrible player just bcs he can't dribble
Of football was about that then there would be no need to watch games you could just look at the results ..but it's about winning while playing it beutifully like Messi
I’m 21 years old and I remember watching messi and Ronaldo growing , this argument between these two who are double my age and double the experience in seeing players more than me , it’s pathetic how they argue and don’t come to agreement it’s crazy
Dribbling: Messi Shooting: Ronaldo Passing: Messi Physicality: Ronaldo Work on the field: Ronaldo More Talent: Messi Heading: Ronaldo Better playmaker: Messi Better Striker: Ronaldo Ronaldo and Messi both 🐐
@@christopherhoy8705 I'll always say messi is the greatest 🙏 but Ronaldo is in top 3 ..for sure ... I've a huge respect for RONALDO .. he's an inspiration
@@Yasser-hy8tn literally, ladbible need to pick two neutral people to have a constructed debate; I lost brain cells listening to these two clowns who don’t know what they’re talking about
Yeah let’s compare them ronaldo has more euro goals more goals vs top 5,10,15,20 worse team,DOUBLE more major games goals,playing in a harder tournament with better players,better goal ratio,better g/a ratio in major games they also both have 2-2 trophies messi edges that cause of the World Cup (let’s not talk about the corruption)
This is copied and pasted before anyone says anything Across their whole careers: Attributes - Goalscoring: Messi Finishing - Messi Playmaking: Messi Dribbling: Messi Passing: Messi Aerial ability/heading: Ronaldo Defensively: Messi Stats per game - Goals - Messi Assists - Messi UCL goals - Messi UCL assists - Messi International goals - Ronaldo International assists - Messi Free kick goals - Messi Hat tricks - Messi UCL hat tricks - Messi Penalties - Ronaldo Outside the box goals - Messi Key Passes - Messi Big chances created - Messi Acc. through balls - Messi Successful dribbles - Messi xA - Messi Aerial duels won - Ronaldo Average match rating - Messi Man of the matches - Messi El Clasico g/a - Messi UCL knockout g/a - Ronaldo G/a in finals - Messi World cup goals - Ronaldo World cup assists - Messi World cup g/a - Messi Major tournament g/a - Messi Individual honours - Ballondor - Messi Fifa World poty - Messi European golden shoe - Messi UCL top scorer - Ronaldo Pichichi - Messi League pots - Messi International player of the tournament - Messi Puskas nominations - Messi IFFHS top goalscorer - Ronaldo IFFHS best playmaker - Messi Team trophies - UCL - Ronaldo League titles - Messi Domestic cups - Messi International trophies - Ronaldo International finals - Messi Messi 37 - 10 Ronaldo
Bruh you added international finals 😭😭 and you added puskas nominations but not the puskas itself which Ronaldo won and Messi didn’t. And what is per game? This is so biased god
@@ubaidmalik2517 sorry I've just seen the replies. But I'm doing per game because Ronaldo has played 148 more games. And messi should have 3 or 4 puskas wins. And Ronaldo has less ucl g/a per game it's only because he's played more that his g/a look better. But in the quarter finals and semi finals hes got better stats than Messi in the ucl. I'll admit that. But that's it
They’re both unreal players and they shouldn’t disregard eachother. Personally I used to prefer Messi but he’s been a bit quiet recently. I really like the whole image Ronaldo has now of being the perfect athlete etc
Perfect athlete, its called football not athlete. He is a decent player but he is nothing special with the ball at his feet. I always say Ronaldo is the best without the ball and Messi is the best with the ball. He was a great dribbler back in the day but that is more than 10+ years ago.
The Messi fan is just a deluded kid😂😂 "It's not great to see Ronaldo play, even when he was in Madrid" He doesn't give Ronaldo any credit while the Ronaldo fan gives Messi his deserved credit. Now I know who is a real football fan😂
Nah it actually means creating a build up play by giving the ball to a player to make that one assist the scorer which is a great point cause Ronaldo can't do that most of the times cause he wants to score. It's all about team play not individual
@@alexanderatkins5595 yeah but it needs individual ability to make that through passes I don't know why cr fans doesn't know such things..... They doesn't appreciate football they appreciate the things that cr is good that...... These fans are degrading the actual meaning of Football
The Balon D’or is based on the whole year not from august i’m not going to be delusional and say he’s been good in the 2021-22 season but him have 1 goal from august to december won’t stop the fact he deserves the balon d’or
@@Yoaneemmanuel Season 2018/2019 51 goals and 19 assists in 50 games, most motm, most goals, pichichi in la liga, golden boots and you're saying that he didnt deserved the bo that year, what a fucking casual
Comparing ronaldo and Messi’s dribbling ability even in ronaldos prime is criminal. That’s one thing no body can’t compare to Messi. Dribbling. Nobody.
@PVRIS I’m just speaking statistically. You can google it if you don’t believe me. Obviously Messi’s dribbles where he beats 6+ men are better, but Hazard was more successful (less losing the ball when attempting a dribble) than Messi for awhile, which is quite impressive for playing in physical premier league. Hazard was doing 6.4 dribbles per 90 SUCCEEDING 75% of them. Messi 5.5 per 90, 62% success (tho he was abit older and less fast/agile at this point) Please be mature and able to have a discussion instead of attacking anyone who says something slightly bad about Messi, I think he is the best player ever its just an interesting fact about Hazard
For me it's as simple as Ronaldo is the best among men, but Messi is something different. Being a Man Utd fan, I will always have a special place for Ronaldo, as he is our boy, but Messi is just different. I see Ronaldo score so many great goals, win trophies, and be fit as a fiddle, but there is a limit to what he can do, and does. Again, he is the best among men. There is no footballer that I have ever seen that makes the game of football like so effortless, and simple as Messi makes it look. You can say what you want about Messi not showing up in big games, or being on perfect teams, but based on pure talent, and ability, nobody comes close to Messi. For me, I idolise Ronaldo more, and he is so likeable, and clutch, and he's always showing up on the biggest stage, but if you really watch Ronaldo, it's clear to see that he's only human. With Messi, sometimes that is hard to believe. I will always prefer Ronaldo, for his physical aspects, and his contributions for Man Utd, but if we're being totally honest Messi is just out of this world. Every time Messi is on the pitch, its magic when he's on the ball, and there is a buzz around him. You wonder when he get's the ball if he is going to dribble past everyone and score, or pick out a beautiful pass. With Ronaldo it's always very much about himself, and he's a very selfish footballer.
One thing I heard from Zidane , don't know it's true or someone made it but it was actually true. When Messi has the ball, his vision is clear.That I saw ever since I started to watch him , whenever he gets the ball ,just look at the defence of the opposition team. Attack starts from & he's the guy competing each year for Most goals & that's absolutely outrageous. Never seen before + this much consistency. I don't think Cris is selfish either , ever since he joined Real Madrid , he's been playing as an inverted winger or a striker so he shoots more.
Excellent representation of what Messi fans usually are like - Idiotic, unreasonable, and hard to listen to. This baldy's whole argument of Messi being a better goalscorer was based on better goal to game ratio of Messi, in La Liga, Ronaldo had better goal to game ratio than Messi. His numbers have been impacted by playing in England and Italy. Just look at what Messi is doing in France now.
You're a representation of a typical ronaldo fan- saying all that but blatantly ignore the nonsense the cr7 fans is saying. Same level as messi at dribbling when he was at real madrid is one of the most deluded football opinion i have ever heard.
As a football fan I have seen a lot of players play but Ronaldo and Messi are very unique. Ronaldo scores goals when you want and Messi creates chances. Ronaldo is a mixture of great acrobatic skills and Messi has great vision. They are different in their own ways so you cannot compare them since they don't have same style of play.
@Eli I know some people just don’t know anything just to put into context, Ronaldo I’m his prime dribbling year in Man Utd he was averaging 4 dribbles a game, Messi in his prime dribbling year was averaging 9 dribbles per game, Messi worst dribbling year he was averaging 4.17 dribbles per game, also Messi has every stat in every tournament higher for dribbling and overall.
@@eththeman well that’s how it works, just can’t get over the fact that Messi is a way better dribbler than Ronaldo ever was. These are stats than prove Messi is a way better dribbler
The Messi guy saying that context doesn’t matter with stats is so deluded. Context has to be applied to every stat or else you can just manipulate them.
@@DMBCFC You can. Ronaldo left a UCL winning and a 2nd time UCL Finalist team to join a Spanish team that didn't win it since 2002. Ronaldo then won 4 UCLs with that team. Left it, to join a team that didn't win a UCL since 1996. Now left that team that has cleared UCL round of 16 every single year in the last 3 years, to a team that had failed to win Europa League last year and didn't win a league since 2013. Ronaldo has left 2 highly winning teams to not so winning ones, in his career of 3 clubs. Messi on the other hand, started in a team that won the UCL when he was just a substitute. He never left that team, they won 3 more UCL with him. Many many League trophies. Now, he hasn't won the UCL since 2015, and joined another team that was the UCL Finalist in 2020. Its easier to see who has had the better team through out. You can't score goals by yourself, neither can you assist them by yourself. The better the team mates, the better the stats. While Ronaldo's team mates have been world class too, they are not the same as "some" of Messi's (core of Spanish team 2008-2012) or a 3 times Ballon D'or winning team mate or a golden shoe winning team mate. Goal to game ratio doesn't factor, that one guy takes time to adapt, the time that the other guy never had to spend. Context matters every single time. It doesn't factor the difference in teams and team mates. Even after all this, Ronaldo has 451 goals in 438 matches for a Spanish side. Now add context to it, and you will see how much more those 451 were than its pure number.
So, I'm a strong Messi fan, and I strongly believe that he's the best player in football history... But the Messi fan (Ross, I believe) can't be the person y'all choose to participate in this debate. He takes it too personally... The Ronaldo fan is good, but throwing in insults just makes you look weak in a debate.
Are you joking or serious? There is ronaldo who always slams messi, like typing essays on instagram, writing factos under his fanpage, on 2022 new year day, typing another essay by posting a picture and describing his last year etc etc.. And there is messi, never said anything wromg about him in front of everyone. He just accept everything and move on. He is very calm guy in these kind of things.
@@arviethakur1217 because Ronaldo isn't afraid of saying what he thinks while Messi says that Robert is one of the best in the world and then votes for his friends on the best award
@@joseelcolchonero4795 dude shut up, Messi said Lewandowski deserved it last year, he told he is a great competitor and player but he never said Lewandowski deserved the ballon dor in 2021. If you dont listen and only hear to respond you come up with this nonsense.
@@joseelcolchonero4795 that is different thing.... Ronaldo is arrogant we all know.. We can see his jealousy towards messi.. But you can see, even he said i never had any competion with messi but then said our rivalry pushed me even him as well. I mean, come on, robert isnt his rivalry. Messi doesnt get jealous of anyone. He always choose neymar we all know... But what ronaldo do.. When ever messi gets any good, then ronaldo starts typing essays.. Imagine doing comment under his fanpage 😭😭😭😭... And his sister posted pics, his mother spoken bad about messi.. Even i want to say, his whole family is jealoused of messi.. Ronaldo acts like crying babies.. Messi is more like disciplined, more calm than him.. And his football?.. Aah we all know the difference between these 2
Its played every year and has 10 teams. 2 of them are decent. Cavani has won the copa america, i guess that means hes better than messi. ‘Messi fan logic’
Please explain why that tournament deserves any respect. There's only about 4 teams that's are good enough to win in the last decade (Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uraguay). And compare them to European teams. Brazil are arguably the best out of the 4 I mentioned and they get battered in the world cup, what happened against Germany was a joke.
@@TalinDuttaOk, I dont want to start an argument but......only 10 secs in, and the ronaldo fan has just said "Ronaldo's as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling".....I'm sorry but everyone knows that its not true....The number of successful dribbles by Messi is more than that of Neymar's and Ronaldo's combined.... I have nothing against Ronaldo btw, I respect him and I was just stating facts
@@jobithomas901 In my opinion both of these guys are the worst guys to have this debate with however, compared to the Messi fan who just discredited Ronaldo's accomplishments and reputation, I found the Ronaldo fan more rational.
@@jobithomas901 I agree ronaldo wasnt as good at dribbling but ronny is 6 ft 1 that's insane to have that speed and agility at that height, messi is 5 ft 7 and has a really low center of gravity its easier for him to dribble I'd argue
Messi used to get made fun of because he had 0 international trophies but now that he has 2 copa America , 1 World Cup and finalissima but now that he has achieved all of those they don’t matter because he plays for Argentina . The ronaldo fan base might be the most delusional fan base I’ve seen in the world .
Bro he says just as good as messi at dribbling because they have differences, messi might be better at dribbling and ronaldo can be better at shooting. And now imagine ronaldo having similaar dribbling and that good of a shooting that he has
@@jamesvlogandfood7260 it’s more the fact that he’d take on teams single handedly and get through when there’s no space and more that it was so many times. We’ve never seen someone do these things as often as Messi and as effortlessly. His famous goal against Athletic Club in the cup final when he was at the throw in line he got past three defenders with 3 touches in like a second. Never been a dribbler as effective and efficient
Winning the champions league is no small feat, city and PSG have put billions into their teams to try win it and have failed so far. What Madrid did to win it 3 times in a row and the impact Ronaldo had in that run cannot be downplayed, even Barcelona at their peak couldn't dream of winning the champions league 3 times in a row
3:50 - I am a Messi fan, but to say Pele played in a farmers league is incorrect. The Brazilian league at the time, was considered the best league in the world.
"Just as good as messi". Then and there messi fan should have pulled a red card from his pocket and made him exit and tell him to not come back the next time 😂
It is please tell me why it isn’t the last 5 World Cup Europe won 4 and 1 to South America so you tell me what harder to win because nations league a harder trophy and cops America has about 3 team that I would say a good
I respect both of them..but the reason why I love Messi more is the line..." Never compare a great footballer with a goal scorer"..although Ronaldo climbed up the heights with so much difficulty that only a few can go through that. To be more precise both are the greatest of all time but I love Messi more ( I'm not putting him above someone, I just love that guy more).
Here's something to think about: Nobody fiercely debates and attacks other people about messi vs griezmann, or messi vs sterlimg, or ronaldo vs suarez, or ronaldo vs kane, so clearly deep down the know they are both the top 2 of all time, or they wouldn't even be debating it considering they idolise their player so much
If you have eyes and you watch football for a long time, you’ve already seen ronaldo like players may be not so obsessed with goals and hairstyle, but it’s plenty of them in terms of skills. Players like Messi you have never seen nor probably will, better scorer than cr7, batter playmaker than cruyff, better passer than xavi, better dribbler than maradona, better free kick scorer than beckham. Mens can play all positions on a field, besides defense and goalie and yet he is unselfish, giving penalty away, so suarez could have a golden boot. yet he is humble and respectful, when single handedly is able to turn any game upside down. Listen to all professional players and coaches, who are not Portuguese or from Real/Manchester United, all of them saying the same thing. Stop delusion please.
....better scorer than cr7, batter playmaker than cruyff, better passer than xavi, better dribbler than maradona, better free kick scorer than beckham..and you are asking others to stop being delusional? Oh my....
then how come messi's form dipped after xavi and iniesta retired? And how can you say he is all those things when currently he is playing in a team full of playmakers and stars and still does so poor? If he was so good he would have dragged barcelona through the games at rome, liverpool and bayern.
I was a diehard fan of CR7 and a Mourinho when they were at Real Madrid, I swear but deep inside then, as someone who played football, I knew that Messi was a better all round player than Ronaldo…I hated Messi because he prevented Nigeria from winning under 20 World Cup held in Netherlands in 2005….But at some point, I had to put sentiment aside and admit that Messi is just above everyone else…Mourinho even called him the god of football…Coaches say you need three players or more to stop Messi, but even at that, it’s still impossible to stop…The guy in Man U jersey doesn’t understand anything about football..
Bruh it's mad how they thought a guy who has Messi tattooed on his back and a guy who literally is trying to look like Ronaldo would be objective or impartial in any way. They're both clearly way too starstruck to accept any new perspectives regardless of what's being said
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They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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well said its embarrassing
Very true i wouldve thought the man u guy looks more like varane😂😂
@@denz6959 the Messi fan is just offering up opinions as facts. Man was asked how is the copa with Brazil and Uruguay harder than the euros OR nations league with France, Germany, Spain, Italy, Croatia, Belgium and even England now, and he said "copa is just as hard, ask anyone"😂😂😂as for the Ronaldo guy, he's clearly been reading a bunch of Ronaldo stats online but there's almost no substance to any of his arguments. Just seems interested in copping out of giving Messi any credit whatsoever
There's a difference between wearing a Utd Kit + hair that at a stretch resembles Ronaldo and having a back tattoo that's like a shrine for Messi.
I get he's a superfan but how you gonna dedicate your whole back to another man 😂
If you say that anyone has "just as good dribbling" as Messi, you have not watched or just cannot fathom the magic that this man creates with the ball at his feet
Agreed. Although I'd rather have Ronaldo in my squad because of how much he motivates a good team, great example is him becoming second manager for Portugal winning the euros with him injured on the sideline
@@samn6498 na Messi makes players around him better bc of his insane playmaking ability cr7 cant do that
@@samn6498 second manager 🤡🤡🤡😂
Exactly, imagine thinking ronaldo has the same ability as messi in dribbling. Messi has dribbled effortlessly through countless teams and scored, you can’t say the same about ronaldo. Not forgetting he scored 91 goals in a calendar year, Messi is the GOAT.
@@JS-hp1ow except you can say the same, not that I disagree messi is a better dribbler
These guys are the real life versions of twitter stan accounts. I am a messi fan because I prefer his style of play but that doesn't mean I "hate" ronaldo. Infact I love him too. Anyone who discredit either messi or ronaldo is not a football fan.
exactly.
No-one got discredited just stating who was better doesn’t mean the other isn’t phenomenal
Messi guy did a good job exposing penaldo fraud.
Roy Keane is a great player and a man🤣🤣
Facts
Would love to see these two reunite after Messi has won a World Cup
the ronaldo fan will just keep saying it was a robbery haha
@@makzs The messi fan would never stop bringing it up when pele has 3🤣🤣
@@Visionzaethen bring up messis better stats, against better players. 😂😂😂
@@Visionzae as if messi couldnt win 3 wc with that brazil team... put pele in this argentina team and they would get groupped
@@batu28 ronaldo has better stats which is why he has more goals
I 100% believe messi is the best player ever but people who try to discredit Ronaldo is just stupid. He's clearly top 2 along with messi
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Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
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They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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Think it's still not possible to make the statement that both are the two best players ever. It may be true, but a lot of people just forget what kind of players the likes of Maradona, Cruijff, Pele & Eusebio were
@@nathanielknight1838 the Brazilian league was literally the hardest league in the world back then do your research rather than just assuming that the Brazilian league was bad back then cuz you don't know anything about it
@@jarnemelk the only ones out of those 4 that could possibly compare are Maradona and pele. The reason i dont think pele is above is because he only played in brazil. Imagine if for example messi played in Argentina, he would score a hattrick every game and Maradona took ped's which for me takes him out of the discussion. Also if pele had played today he wouldnt be even close to the top of the game because the game has evolved so much. The defenders now are so much better than back then
This Messi guy is so embarrassing. Take the actual core debate away, his whole demeanor is so cringe for a grown man.
Pathetic to watch, so arrogant and demeaning to
the other guy throughout the debate
@@zimeez7760 because the united fan had the audacity to say that he has the same dribbling ability as Messi, he deserved to get ruined for even thinking that.
Agreed if either of them was actually so much better than the other than their fans wouldn't talk about the other so much
This Messi fan has played for England 6 a side and has been successful in football for years .
@@jamiecable6638 meaning?
Why did you get 2 of the most delusional people ever to settle this debate 😂😂😂😂😂
because it is most entertaining!
@@foa0695 this ain’t entertainment
@@spinofthewheel5345 i mean it is for a few people. good for laughs
Messi guy is even more so
Messi fan is way more deluded
“Will be remembered way more for what he’s done at an international level” that aged well 😂😂
He will tho 😂😂😂
@@abcd-bm5ejwhere ronaldo wc
@@abcd-bm5ejno he won’t. Whoever wins portugal there wc will
@@t.t4334 it's a team sport 🤡🤡🤡
@@t.t4334ronaldo won portugal their only major trophies made them qualify to the wc 5 times in a row they couldn't do that without him and is top goal scorer for portugal and international oat he will fs be remembered
I’m a Messi fan but Jesus.. this Messi fan is way too emotional about it
Messi is amazing but his the sort of guys to get arrested for breaking into messi's house and proposing to him lol.
He even has a tattoo of messi and calls the other guy obsessed🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
facts its embarassing
Messi the🐐🏆
It’s more embarrassing that fact he’s a middle aged man aswell
I feel as if the Messi-fan would fight you, if you disagreed with him in a pub.
I reckon he'd also nosh Messi off if he had the chance
thats because it should be obvious
Because he’s a bellend
The Messi fan is probably jsut sick to death of Ronaldo fans thinking he’s the goat because he’s handsome. Every single stat in the world of football is in Messi’s favour except most goals and being handsome and muscular. Messi literally thrashes Ronaldo in every single stats known to football except most goals. Messi is by miles clear Ronaldo fans just can’t accept it bc Messi isn’t as handsome with a 6 Pack and it sickens actual football fans not deluded closeted gays
@@israelhm7339 fr, youre full of crap if you tell me that alot more people don't just favor in Ronaldo over Messi cause he's more "better looking"
As a Chelsea fan, Messi is the best by a good distance. If we're talking dribbling, C.Ronaldo is miles behind. That Man Utd fan is a typical Man Utd fan.
Precisely. From a fellow Chelsea fan
Yeah I don’t know who he thinks he was trying to convince with that, if your trying to claim Ronaldo is better than Messi then dribbling is something you want to stay away from. He should’ve replaced dribbling with technicality
Lol but as a chelsea fan you should know Leo was always missing against us!!! I mean come on this is just a nonsense conversation Ronaldo or messi.
Nah seems like he's just being idiotic. I think most UTD fans know the difference between the tricks, step-overs etc (that CR7 produced in his prime) and actual dribbling - Cristiano, although was very strong moving with the ball, is nowhere near Messi (or even Giggs) in that sense
@@benjyjosephb you say that as if Cristiano was amazing against Chelsea. In all his years, he only scored ONCE against Chelsea. Even that was only because Michael Essien was playing at right back and he could jump higher than Essien to head the ball. Other than that, Ashley Cole had him in the back pocket. At least Messi troubled and created chances against Chelsea
According to the stats, as of the time of this video...
Ronaldo's prime dribbling season was in the 05/06 season at Man United when he was 20 years old with around 4.17 dribbles per 90 minutes.
Which is still lower than Messi's worst dribbling season in 20/21 at Barca, when he was 33 years old with around 4.27 dribbles per 90 minutes. 😭💀 now that's cold af
What about outside of Barca? Messi was never the same player outside of the Barca system, Ronaldo was good anywhere.
@@BigBoss7777777 he won three cups with Argentina
Kiddo one in epl and other in laliga 😂😂
@@mess436 he failed constantly for Argentina throughout his entire prime. He had to wait for his team around him to get better and for Di Maria to show up in finals. Messi was never the same player for Argentina as he was for Barca.
@@BigBoss7777777 Or maybe it was because Argentina failed him... for that matter was Ronaldo as good with Portugal as he was with RM?
“Just as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Shame it doesn’t make messi the #1 goal scorer 😂😂
Yeah that had me off instantly, I'm a united fan😔
@@Johndoe-gf7eu Messi has more career goals per game than Ronaldo and the highest goal scoring season ever, calendar year ever, and has more goals in the last decade during both of their primes.. they are on par when it comes to scoring NOT anything else
@@frankywilliam8073 bro this vid is exactly for sour fans like you, that wreck the beauty of the rivalry with toxic fans 🤦♂️
Messi miles better with dribbling but Ronaldo is that guy
That messi fan is so childish would never want to have a pint with him
Dude probably in his 50’s too lmaoo
Keep crying penaldogs he destroyed that Penaldo admirer
@@cokedoutmarkhamill8179 you’re the problem of what’s wrong with the Messi and Ronaldo fanboys. Never appreciate both and call them pessi and penaldo. Just stfu and be glad that you’re watching TWO great players.
Remove ur comment now 😂
As a Messi fan, they are both obnoxious but baldy 10x worse.
ronaldo definitely had a period from around 06-13 where he was a top 3 dribbler in the world every year,to act like he couldnt dribble is disrespectful
End of the day no one is looking at stuff in the future and going ‘oo he was the best of all time cos he could dribble the best’ they are gonna see the most goals in history and go off that….
yh but to say that CR7's dribbling was on the same level as Messi's is even more disrespectful
He never acted like Ronaldo couldn't dribble. He just mocked the idea of him being on the same level as Messi when it comes to dribbling.
Thats why the Ronaldo fan said on the same level while he knows and we all know Ronlados Dribbling can never be compared to Messis
@@Johndoe-gf7eu idiots will only go off one stat. Messi is a better footballer, and Ronaldo scores more goals.
This man literally said Nations league is harder to win than Copa America bro go watch the games
The disrespect to south American football from some Europeans is unbelievable. South American football is the deepest when you consider the amount of countries they have. A lot of big European teams would struggle to qualify for the world cup in conmebol
Bruh it’s propably true, considering how dirt the copa America is nowadays especially. Canada, USA, Ecuador, lots of crap teams in there. Europe there’s a lot less as well as the top nations such as France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Croatia, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy .
@@ortox409 You're yapping mate. Nations League is closer to a Finalissima game than it is to Copa America. But i get it, the fans are just like their idol - deluded. Pendu came out yesterday saying that winning a Euro for Portugal is equivalent to winning the World Cup, which it in no way is. No yapping's gonna change that.
The guy on the left really cant talk about being obsessed when he has multiple tattoos of messi on his back🤣🤣🤣😂😂
It’s so weird that there are football fans out there that support and follow players more than teams or even a team. Cringe .
We're talking about the 2 greatest. Imo it's very understandable considering they're the 2 most followed on the planet too. They've transcended the sport..but discrediting the other isn't acceptable
you know how phenomenal these 2 players are just from the fact that it bothers you
@@jomspizz7870 no one is questioning the players . I’m questioning grown men supporting players more than teams
100% agreed i admire a teams playing style , i have a preference but not enough of a fan to tatto him on my back
Messi brings that much joy to the game. It's your own fault for missing out kid.
So, a guy who's clearly never kicked a football properly calls Messi "Frodo Baggins" and expects to be taken seriously? Give me a break!
Messi and Ronaldo are both giants of the game, we're just lucky to have experienced them both. Age is catching up with both, enjoy them while we still can and stop squabbling over stats and allegiance.
You 🤝 Logic
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Please stop with this equalizing bs. Messi is so clear of ronaldo its unreal. Messi is a special player who does things no one ever does or did.
SO you know if that guy has kicked a football or not?
@@dionelshani1083 i disagree
@@dionelshani1083 yes
I'm sorry that Messi fan is delusional, its not a CR7 thing either. He's got tattoos all over the place, he is extremely subjective, gets defensive, answers with questions and twist the question asked to fit his narrative.
Both of em are. . . . just as good as messi in dribbling really . . .
Both are Bru
"Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play? Have you seen Maradona play?"
"No. Have you?"
"No."
That's why I hate reading comments in Twitter and Reddit. Because of dumb arguments like that.
@@One.Zero.One101 bro I was fuming how he wouldn’t accept the other guy saying Maradona is better than Messi because he’s never seen him play but was ok saying Messi is better than Maradona even tho he’s never seen him play
@@benspiller455 beacause when you will see stats of messi and Maradona messi is way better than Maradona
Imagine being a middle aged British bloke with a Messi tattoo on your back 😂
imagine not
The impact he makes
Pathetic
That's his body and you can't say nothing about it.
@@anthonylalhruaitluanga5428 pretty sure we can
"Messi has scored more goals than anyone" well that is factually wrong
hes correct messi will scored more goals then anyone
From when he started to play, it is right
gaynaldo played 155 more matches than messi - just for your reminder messi is just 38 goals away from gaynldo ... so stfu
@@eddyxmercy_4956 going how he is playing right now messi can't do dogshit
Better goal ratio
Ronaldo said 4 years ago he doesn't dribble like his peak years. We all know that in 2014 tendinosis also had something to do with it. If the dude himself says he doesn't dribble like he used too why even bring it up.
Even at his best at dribbling his dribble/game is the same as messi is doing rn and it's not even half of messi's best season dribbling wise 😂
Yeah, meanwhile Messi was walking through the entire peak Madrid team in 2011...
To quote the famous commentator Peter Drury's reaction to Messi's goal:
"And here's Messi....away from 2, 3, 4....wonderful, wonderful, wonderful... How good is he? A mere supernatural goal from Lionel Messi! He has wriggled and tiptoed his way to the gates of Wembley Stadium. He is just brilliant. Best player in the world, bar none." look at the pace, look at the speed, the control and finish. You can't touch him, you can't get near him."
@@_v.c_ ok dog ronaldo 20 dribbles in a single match and messi only 16 😂😂
@@ayaan3616 yeah bro that's true for a single match and are you still stuck with that match till now??
Since 2009-10 stats, Cr7 had 936 successful dribbles (1.81 dribbles per 90min) meanwhile Lionel Messi have a whopping number of 2433 successful dribbles (4.36 per 90min)... 🔥🔥
@@ayaan3616 yh messi is more adventurous with his dribbling. Ronaldo baits the player then does nothing
As a person who thinks Messi is the greatest player football has ever produced, and a person that absolutely hates manchester united, i have to say, that Ronaldo fan is calm and fair, and that messi fan is off his medication
Fax lol
are u a lfc fan?
@@ibby15 noooooo
@@Jurmeytobgyevideos what team do u support
@@ibby15 city
The difference between them during their prime is you give half a chance to Cristiano he will score but you don't have to give Messi a chance.
You didn't have to give Ronaldo a chance either. It's not like Messi made those rushes every game. Ronaldo has hit top bins from 40 yards out more times than Messi dribbled all across the pitch to put it in the net
@@jelle5859 factos
@@jelle5859 That‘s actually not exactly true, but I get your point and it‘s still valid.
@@TheGoat19397 he is speaking facts
@@xtremexx1191 Ronaldo has got exactly 2 goals that are 40 yard-ish. The one against Porto and the freekick against arsenal. I just did a little bit of research, maybe I missed a goal or 2, but he doesn't even have 10% of Messi's solo goals (40 yard shots for CR7).
As a fan of both, this has got to be the most cringiest thing ive ever saw 🤣🤣🤣two grown men arguing about footballers 🤣one has a tattoo of them aswell 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And the other tries to look as close to him, honestly shameful
The tattoo is very cool though but the argument is embarrassing
Pure cringe
Both are gods of the game and it is embarrassing that people can't just love them both and squabble over petty nonsense. The hate both players receive online is ridiculous but I guess that's the price of greatness.
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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What is embarassing is that people consider those two washed ups still relevant now. Ronaldo is literally mid table in the prem, meanwhile Messi is one of the weakest and uneffective wingers in Ligue 1 with a single goal to his name. They were the best, but they are SHIT now and we should focus on the best players right now and stop giving them attention. I’m so happy the Penaldo/Pessi monopolized era is over for some time.
@@NomaHirudo fax
@@NomaHirudo
Messi isn’t a winger and his job isn’t to score goals. Your comment says a lot about your knowledge of the sport.
You know everything is done for content and views. You'll see every now and then this types of vids in every channel and then people arguing in comment section 🤷🏻♂️
Part 2 needed!!!! LADS GET IT DONEEEEEEE😂
*We agree that Messi and Ronaldo are great players*
Ronaldo fan: "I think they're both phenomenal players"
Messi fan: "Messi is the best, simple as that"
This is what Meesi fans in general say when people are giving credit to Ronaldo and Messi, it is just sad honestly
it is because messi is clearly levels above cr7, who is still one of the greatest players of all time. goals ratio, assists ratio, dribbling, ability to create a big chance, ballon dors, golden boots, motms. messi is miles better everywhere, if you are not madrid or man u fan you know it as clear as a day.
@@bigshaq6062 i get what ur saying and i respect it but the question wasnt about who is better, it was about if they are great players, that is the problem with messi fans, always talk about messi and his 7 ballon dors as if anyone asked or cared, as if he is a god and you lot worship him
@@ethanpetersen7318 yep, pretty much what most messi fanboy says when talking about football in general
@@OHA2468 we all know everyone cares about the balon dor😹😹
@@philipsheehama569Not ever since it's been gifted to Messi just because it's Messi. It's become a farce.
The rivalry was what propelled them to that level of greatness IMO. You cannot be a fan of one without acknowledging the other. They kept pushing each other to be better. At the peak of their powers undoubtedly none could even compare to them. The story at the time too, Cristiano vs Messi, Barca vs Madrid, A guy who was undersized but had the touch and a guy built himself physically to dominate. These 2 are on a level of their own.
Are you referring to these two bloke talking? They’re incels and it that great.
crazy how the 2 best players are Literally the opposite of each other interms of playstyle and personality. Even played for the top 2 best teams in the league😂 Only God could write a script like that
@@andyhunter5869 what about them did you find that they were being hostile to women? or do you just throw around words u have no clue of meaning?
@@jr4god11 they were destined to clash against each other.
Straight away the ronaldo fan mentioned big international teams yet said spain, but people just need to appreciate both players, everyone has opinions on who is the best, but people become so ignorant they fail to appreciate the other, and they're missing out big time
So spain isn’t a big international team ?
When Spain were winning titles in 2010 they were one of the most dominant teams ever in international footbal
Pretty sure spain is a bigger international team than england lol
This didn't age very well for the man united guy😅!
Man said Ronaldo wasn’t great to watch at Real Madrid 😂😂😂
Before Messis debut Real Madrid had 6 more UCL than Barca... After Messi they had big players like Xavi Iniesta Neymar the tiki taka style the Guardiola era, 2 Treble and now Madrid have 13 UCL and Barca are now 8 UCL behind 😂
Man probably barca fan so it wasnt great watching his team got destroyed 😂😂😂
@@geraldisaiahd.g6956 im not a barca fan but how many times did real madrid destroy barcelona since messi was playing for barca?
Hahahaha this 🙏
@@geraldisaiahd.g6956 Ronaldo only won 2 la ligas in 7 years bro, and Barca beat them 5-0 at Bernabeu
I'm a Messi fan but the Messi fan here was unbearable.
You all are.
@@JamesHussain82 says a Chelsea fan
@@ng.15 says a spurs fan
@@CocoKobiee hes not a spurs fan, hes a player fan, its embarrassing. What man is a fan of another man? You follow a team, the team of where you're from. These lot just supports whoever is the best. Probably a Fury, Khabib, Bolt and Ronaldo fan.
Can guarantee hes not from London! Probably supports Brazil too
@@JamesHussain82 true 😄
Messi for me. Two unbelievable players absolute ballers. I'm just shocked the real goat James milner is not in this conversation
He can play midfield left back goalkeeper you name it Milly's there
He is quite a literal dawg!
Messi can control games, Ronaldo can’t. Ronaldo scored half of his goals poaching as the CF, quality of goals matter and the standard is just higher for Messi in that department.
I honestly hate it so much when people don't give respect to ronaldo. Idk who is the best but both of these two are top2 best players ever to exist. It's so delusional.
Ronaldo no body scored that many goals than him in their lives.
@@steven-fx5cn Messi literally has a better goal ratio lol
@@asianwarrior2193 who had the best goal to game ratio while they were in Spain g
@@anthony98339 what an absolute abysmally shit point that is, like bottom of the bottom, Messi spent his whole career since he was 17 in la liga and Ronaldo moved in his prime, if Ronaldo didn't have a better goal ratio than Messi in La Liga it would be very concerning for the so called "goat"
@@asianwarrior2193 no hes right when ronaldo moved to la liga in 2009 from that point onwards till he left la liga he had a better goal to gam ratio mate
Neither is awful to watch. Both are incredible players who have achieved amazing stats and achieved many accolades. And will continue to achieve until they are ready to retire...facts or major big facts?
But they're finished now
One is ghosting big games and only scoring easy goals
While the other have only 1 goal and is failing in a farmers league
Sad truth
@@nt._7 ur not wrong but one is playing at almost 37 in the toughest league in the world while the other fails to score in the farmers league
Only for fans over 18 years old BEAUTIFULGIRLS.SITE 👈
tricks I do not know
Megan: "Hotter"
Hopi: "Sweeter"
Joonie: "Cooler"
Yoongi: "Butter
So with toy and his tricks, do not read it to him that he writes well mamon there are only to laugh for a while and not be sad and stressed because of the hard life that is lived today.
Köz karaş: '' Taŋ kaldım ''
Erinder: '' Sezimdüü ''
Jılmayuu: '' Tattuuraak ''
Dene: '' Muzdak ''
Jizn, kak krasivaya melodiya, tolko pesni pereputalis.
Aç köz arstan
Bul ukmuştuuday ısık kün bolçu, jana arstan abdan açka bolgon.
Uyunan çıgıp, tigi jer-jerdi izdedi. Al kiçinekey koyondu wins taba algan. Al bir az oylonboy koyondu karmadı. '' Bul koyon menin kursagımdı toyguza albayt '' dep oylodu arstan.
Arstan koyondu öltüröyün dep jatkanda, bir kiyik tigi tarapka çurkadı. Arstan aç köz bolup kaldı. Kiçine koyondu emes, çoŋ kiyikti jegen jakşı dep oylodu. # 垃圾
They are one of the best concerts, you can not go but just seeing them from the screen, I know it was surprising
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Ronaldo is dogshit to watch. Especially the example he sets. Disgraceful
@@ghostmaster9700 one is going to win trophies and will qualify to play in UCL next season
Whereas the other won’t win any trophies and will probably not finish top 4..
I would say joining PSG was a smart move and joining Man Utd, a stupid move..
As a Madrid fan, if we talk about peak then Messi is a tip better.
But I would rather have Ronaldo’s career than Messi’s.
I would still rather Messi’s career. More trophies and more individual awards
A tip better? He’s quite comfortably better and he has been for almost 14 years now.
A tip 😂😂😂😂😂😂
My brother said tip lmaoo.. nobody in history was better them prime Messi . and I mean NO BODY.
We all know what prime Messi is...... saying a tip is hella disrespectful
Please do a part 2....PLEASE😂 man's said "the things Cristiano has done are going to be talked about more"🤣 The guy was benched, in most of the World cup that Messi just happened to win!!!
Nobody cares about a rigged trophy
@@abdooljackson1399 then why are u crying?
Part 2 will feature the Ronaldo fan in an Al-Nassr kit and the Messi fan with a new WC tattoo on his body.
@@diegotv995 you say that but even the biggest trophy can be rigged look at the 2002 wc with south Korea
@@IA67676 that goes to proved that any wc can be rigged dawg.
This debate is stupid they both will go down as two of the greatest of all time. Ronaldo had mental dribbling at Manchester United but from all years combined no one can compete with Messi’s dribbling and just looking at all other attributes , they both have strengths in different areas you cannot discredit either whatsoever
Ronaldo strength is goalscoring.
Messi has that and a lot more.
The 3 most important attacking attributes by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling.
Messi is 10/10 in all and ronaldo is only 10/10 finishing.
@@evilmorty8077 people literally act like cr7 didn't do those stuffs in his prime.
Settling the cr7 vs messi debate: ( For both I am talking about their prime)
Shooting-Cr7
Heading-cr7
Weak foot-cr7
Penalties-cr7
Skills-cr7
Pace-cr7
Physical-cr7
Big game player-cr7
Clutch-cr7
Leadership-cr7
Acrobatic goals-cr7
Passing-messi
Dribbling-messi
Free Kicks-messi(just)
Work rate(on the pitch)-neither
Stamina-messi
Assists-messi
Running the game-messi
Crossing-messi
GOAT-
Both🐐🐐
@@fifalegendguy67 shooting is level at best if not messi. Weak foot is messi he scores free kicks with weak foot lol. Skills is messi he runs through entire teams while ronaldo does stepovers to get past 1 player max. Big game is both. Clutch is also wrong messi has scored more off the bench when needed.
End of the day u made 100 categories when the 3 main ones by far are finishing, passing/assisting and dribbling. Messi wins all of them. Only finishing they may be level but in terms of goals per minute messi wins.
@@evilmorty8077 I don't think messi's better at weak foot lol. Don't get me wrong his right foot is dangerous but i think cr's left foot is stronger. Just opinion tho
I feel sorry for those fan boys xD.
Messi did everything in his prime, so did Ronaldo.
Cristiano in Manchester United was one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen, he could drible any1. He was a showman, but he grew up and decided to focus on goals. Why is that a bad thing? Dont you think he deserve to be in the "GOAT" conversation? I mean ofc it will be kids who Will hate on him, but u cannot deny that hes a genius, he owns the Champions league. Its his competition, and thats facts. He was one of the best players in the Premier league,la liga, séria A.
Just like you guys say that Messi can drible the whole 2,3,4 and Cristiano cant, i can say that Messi cant score a long range goal. But thats a lie, Messi scored some badass long range goals like Cristiano scored some goals dribling the defence, you cant deny it. So stop being such a kiddo, when these 2 retire, you all gonna cry, even if u didnt like Messi or Cristiano. Those 2 saved lifes by just playing football. Respect the GOATS
He deserves to be in the conversation but anyone who understands ball knows that Messi's ability will not be seen in another player for a long long time. Dribbling past whole defences, free kicks, shooting with insane precision, the man had it all, except for maybe headers lol
@@AN-nl4fs and Ronaldo dont? Tell me, Dont you think its unfair, he worked his ass off to be a goat and people devalue his work. there is Messi and Cristiano, both are the best players that ever lived on this planet. each of them made each of us fall in love with football, each in his own way. I agree 100% that we will not see another Messi again, he is different, but we will not see another Cristiano either and saying otherwise is the same as saying that he is not one of the best. There is no defined goat, Cristiano is the idol of some Messi is the idol of others, simple. But I have a clear conscience, I enjoyed every moment I saw the two of them play. Comparisons are for kids who haven't seen every stage of each one's career, every evolution, every big moment. I'm grateful that I had the opportunity to be born in time to see them play during their careers
@@morais4450 Ronaldo is a great player easily top 3, but to compare him to messi is just delusional, Ronaldo is known for scoring, messi is known for dribbling,assists/play making, how tf do you even think they're equal
@@marinenico1993 Thats your opinion. Ur the delusional here, your saying that Cristiano its not even close to Messi cause hes known as a goalscorer, wtf is that even mean?
The proof that I'm not delusional is the fact that I don't need to belittle Messi to defend Cristiano. You're simply demeaning Cristiano by saying "he's only known for Scoring goals" Goalscorer is Lewa, Suarez, Cavani etc. Cristiano is much more than a goalscorer and you know that, you're just insecure about Messi. But anyway, I can't change the mind of an ignorant
@@morais4450 Ronaldo is known as a goal scorer that's it, 😂😂😂, and the funny thing is he's not even the best at it 🤣
This messi fan is exactly what all the Twitter warriors sound like. It’s embarrassing ffs
You are a clown.
The ronaldo fan was an absolute joke.
Penaldog was destroyed
So was the Ronaldo fan, the ballon d’or was a farce because “he plays for PSG and it’s France football” that argument has been on social media countless times. Both were embarrassing
@@user-io8cm4dk1f I completely agree
The most delusional thing ever is to say that ronaldo is better than messi
Fr
As a Ronaldo fan, I admit that Messi is more talented and composed. But the hard work and dedication of Ronaldo to be at this level is the reason why I prefer him more and that is very inspirational.
Campeones del mundo argentinaaaaaaaa
Messi Ballon Dor 8
Messi golden shoes 6
Penaldo Ballon Dor 5
Penaldo golden shoes 4
Encara messi messi messi
@@Wolverine.848get off his dick respect them both this comment is talking about player wise not stats and awards 😂💀
Penalties de mundo Argentina. Pepsi at his peak@@Wolverine.848
messi dont hard work
That just means ronaldo is a better person, not player
Can we all just agree that 1) they are 2 of the best players of all time 2) they have 2 very different play styles 3) the teams/circumstances they've both been in matters and 4) it's a shame they both had to leave La Liga and this last stage in their careers is a throwaway?
The Messi fan was so deluded, he wasn’t able to “strongly agree” that Ronaldo is a great player at the end 😑
He isn't. He missed an easy penalty yesterday. Penaldo is a finished tap-in merchant
Everyone that says Cristiano is better than Messi doesn't know ball
@@The_Culé_Guy #2 goal scorer of all time. Ultimate GOAT!!! 😂😂😂
@@yugatrasclart4439 i mean at least he’s actually scoring in the premier league…. 😂😂
It's a fact still
This should be titled “a Messi stalker debates a Ronaldo fan.”
This Messi guy is a Messi fanatic. Not a fan. He contradicts himself at every turn. The argument he uses to discredit Ronaldo or Lewandowski is the same one he employs to credit Messi. Please don't have him on your show again. This episode was annoying
Messi is the goat
Mate stfu the other guy literally talks nonsense. MESSI>CR7 is a fact. CR7>Messi is an opinion
@@lonelyking8924 yes
@@lonelyking8924 Messi couldn't even score a goal at farmers league and you think Messi is better than Ronaldo! What a clown you are. Messi has lost 3 finals in a row with Argentina missing 2 open chances at the world cup and at UCL Messi has yet to score an away goal beyond RO16 since 2012. Calm down mate. Ronaldo will always be above Messi. Messi is only good at Barca and his crap performances at PSG shows that at age 34 while Ronaldo at 36 was top scorer of serie A and Euro
@@Davidhawk7814 Messi only good at Barca when he literally won for Argentina. Also you don’t need goals to have a good game, Messi has so many assists. Typical ronaldo fans that think goals is everything
I’m a Messi fan but the Messi fan in this vid was a lil crazy but whenever it’s a Messi vs cr7 it always gets crazy. Yes I do think Messi the goat but I would def put cr7! After Messi none of this halaand and Mbappe bs. Def not same lvl as Messi at dribbling tho but that ain’t even a negative. They obv both have their positives and negatives.
I’m not even gonna entertain this video by watching two grown men bicker like children over who they prefer… they’re both the best players we’ve ever seen and been lucky enough to witness them both in our lifetimes
@Haeres yeah I think I've made the right choice to be honest. I don't think the opinion of 'who is better' is relevant. Just enjoy them both haha
@Haeres just so you know the Ronaldo fan was annoying as well. Basically imagine a Twitter debate in real life, that’s basically this video
Who’s came back here when Messi won the World Cup🐐🐐🐐
😅me too
I'm here
World Cup mid
@@Dash_3r mid?💀
@@-Niggawhat- if I’m mid for an opinion that’s fact then why did Messi win it and not Ronaldo ya mad he ain’t win the champions league and it’s Ronaldo’s former club Real Madrid that gonna go to the final again so stay mad wit yo mid ass team.
Having a person that doesn't even know you exist tattooed in your back has to be one of the saddest things anybody could do.
Shall I put RIP dad or rosary beads or pretend I’m religious you clown!!!
He has the wrong one for a start😂
@Leon's Bingo Time u never know, maybe messi may have watched this 👀
half of people's tattoos are shitty references or to do with something like that?
You want him to put his girl's face on him or his dad's
If I became a pro footballer tomorrow and in my first ever game scored 5 goals and then decided to never play again, I'd have a better goal record than Ronaldo and messi
Yh but both of them would have 745 + more goals than you so noone would care
with a sample size of 1. Sure.
When is this show ever gonna get fans that actually knows anything about football
Here after Messi won world cup. I wonder what that clown would say now. Please we need part 2 bring them back!
Goofy ahh rigged world cup. Excuse me i tripped going to the kitchen lets give Argentina a penalty
Riggerd world cup🤣
It was rigged for Kolo Muani as well
and Coman was paid to miss that penalty too
@@disswitgan2376 ask them about the 3 peat ucl... they are hypocrites....
@@nikosboutsikas9719 "rigged world cup"
refuses to elaborate
pendu fans are hypocrites
You just know the messi fan spends most of his time fighting people after having a curry watching the game on a Sunday night😂
Messi and Ronaldo are as good as each other end off...
Messi is better than Ronaldo… Ronaldo is a very very good player
But he ain’t messi lol
Messi is easily better. Stop disrespecting messi just so u can get likes from ronaldo fans
Probably one of those neeks on twitter who has a fan account
I think the best argument for these two, is that you can argue that Messi is a better goal scorer than Ronaldo (better goal ratio), but you can’t argue that Ronaldo is a better play maker than Messi.
Edit: I love how all the replies are just arguing who’s the better goal scorer. Proving my point exactly lmao. Even if Messi is half of the goal scorer that Ronaldo is (which isn’t true), he’s like a million times more of a playmaker than Ronaldo is…
Edit 2: And if you wanna talk about farmers and shit, basically all of Ronaldo’s international goals are against countries that nobody knows lmaoo. And Messi scored 91 goals in a seasons something that’s completely mental and Ronaldo didn’t even get close to while in la liga….. lmao
Ratio doesn’t mean nothing, one playing in la liga all life they other was in Prime PL era
u just said better playmaker than messi
@@andrecrispim3209 and still doing it in the most difficult PL of all time whilst messi is the 3rd least effective player in the farmer league. wanna talk statistics there's one
‘Ratio’ ? Who has more goals? Ronaldo. Use the facts, ratio, goals to game is irrelevant, you just say that because messi doesn’t have more overall
@@Johndoe-gf7eu and who played more games than messi?
I havent watched the video, but I know whats in there.
Straight to the point, For me and for many fotballing greats, Messi is the GOAT. But Ronaldo is just as influential as him and we are so lucky to have them both in the same era.
completely agree, whoever you think is the goat ronaldo and messi are miles above any other player
@@finnmcneil7393 Consistency yess but level of play -Messi yes until last year .Ronaldo is not miles ahead of everyone after 15.
@@finnmcneil7393 Ronaldo wasn't miles ahead of everyone after his last year at real madrid. Lewa performed way better even in the build up play. Benzema too, after ronaldo left. They contribute way more than him. They can create and dribble past his opponents and they actually press and play for the team and not for themselves.
This didn't age well for the Rapenaldo fan
Deadgrandomtherssi fan 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@yohannes9958 noWCKOgoalnado fan
@@yohannes9958fruadnaldo, gaynaldo fan😂
Messi wins MOTM without scoring or assisting in a match. Don't think Ronaldo can.
Messi primarily plays as playmaker. Ronaldo’s playing as a striker for quite a while. Cant compare them with this. Plus messi’s hype is a factor just like the previous ballon dor
@@jomcueto980Well guess what? Messi has a better goal ratio than Ronaldo whilst being a playmaker...and guess who has played over 100 games more?
@@KiNg-yl8hs he's talking bout the fact that u can't compare them
But u come with up some hogwash
@@KiNg-yl8hs ronaldo was more consistent in his performance especially considering he has played on all the top leagues with various managers and players. Sure messi did score against top teams from other leagues but ronaldo did that various time in the prem and the serie a . So obviously Ronaldo had it more challenging than Messi which is why i rate him better
@@KiNg-yl8hs sure stats wise, maybe messi wins. But consider the challenges they faced, ronaldo had it more and still comes out as one of the best each year even at his age.
Once A Legend Said .. I don't Need A Player who dribbles a Lot , I Need A Player Who Can A score Hatrick And Won Me A UCL 🙌
Well said
Cr7 the goat no question.
Yes messi is a better overall player we can't deny that but when you start comparing performances in big tournaments past quarter finals or even international stage... The difference is staggering. You wanna prefer stats and stuff then you can always bring up assists and dribbles but ronaldo has clutched big moments throughout his career. It just amazes me that there are so many Messi fans who actually believe Ronaldo is a horrible player just bcs he can't dribble
Of football was about that then there would be no need to watch games you could just look at the results ..but it's about winning while playing it beutifully like Messi
Yeah, thas qhy messi the goat. Better goal ratio says it all
I’m 21 years old and I remember watching messi and Ronaldo growing , this argument between these two who are double my age and double the experience in seeing players more than me , it’s pathetic how they argue and don’t come to agreement it’s crazy
pls bring them back. WE NEED THEM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dribbling: Messi
Shooting: Ronaldo
Passing: Messi
Physicality: Ronaldo
Work on the field: Ronaldo
More Talent: Messi
Heading: Ronaldo
Better playmaker: Messi
Better Striker: Ronaldo
Ronaldo and Messi both 🐐
Accurate
I'm Messi fan ...but I'll never criticize RONALDO because what he has done is incredible 🙏
He's a legend 👑
Both are 🐐s
I agree both incredible but you can’t have 2 goat as it means greatest of all time which means both can’t be lol
Same brother and respect to you 🙏❤️
@@christopherhoy8705 I'll always say messi is the greatest 🙏 but Ronaldo is in top 3 ..for sure ... I've a huge respect for RONALDO .. he's an inspiration
@@manishyadav-gr3dj top 3?nobody else other than Messi has a chance of being better than Ronaldo 😂
I think this is the first time I’ve seen a Messi fan acknowledging Ronaldo.😮
This video really cleared up the Messi vs Ronaldo argument didn't it. Didn't it ?
Not really. Just showed how deluded both fan bases are
@@Yasser-hy8tn literally, ladbible need to pick two neutral people to have a constructed debate; I lost brain cells listening to these two clowns who don’t know what they’re talking about
"lets stay on the international shall we?...cos I can stay here all day" aged like a fine wine
That is irrelevent in their discussion. Anyways Portugal will never be bigger than Portugal as a nation.
but also all his club trophies are tainted by barca now
Bro really Portugal will never be bigger than Portugal 😭
Yeah let’s compare them ronaldo has more euro goals more goals vs top 5,10,15,20 worse team,DOUBLE more major games goals,playing in a harder tournament with better players,better goal ratio,better g/a ratio in major games they also both have 2-2 trophies messi edges that cause of the World Cup (let’s not talk about the corruption)
This is copied and pasted before anyone says anything
Across their whole careers:
Attributes -
Goalscoring: Messi
Finishing - Messi
Playmaking: Messi
Dribbling: Messi
Passing: Messi
Aerial ability/heading: Ronaldo
Defensively: Messi
Stats per game -
Goals - Messi
Assists - Messi
UCL goals - Messi
UCL assists - Messi
International goals - Ronaldo
International assists - Messi
Free kick goals - Messi
Hat tricks - Messi
UCL hat tricks - Messi
Penalties - Ronaldo
Outside the box goals - Messi
Key Passes - Messi
Big chances created - Messi
Acc. through balls - Messi
Successful dribbles - Messi
xA - Messi
Aerial duels won - Ronaldo
Average match rating - Messi
Man of the matches - Messi
El Clasico g/a - Messi
UCL knockout g/a - Ronaldo
G/a in finals - Messi
World cup goals - Ronaldo
World cup assists - Messi
World cup g/a - Messi
Major tournament g/a - Messi
Individual honours -
Ballondor - Messi
Fifa World poty - Messi
European golden shoe - Messi
UCL top scorer - Ronaldo
Pichichi - Messi
League pots - Messi
International player of the tournament - Messi
Puskas nominations - Messi
IFFHS top goalscorer - Ronaldo
IFFHS best playmaker - Messi
Team trophies -
UCL - Ronaldo
League titles - Messi
Domestic cups - Messi
International trophies - Ronaldo
International finals - Messi
Messi 37 - 10 Ronaldo
Bruh you added international finals 😭😭 and you added puskas nominations but not the puskas itself which Ronaldo won and Messi didn’t. And what is per game? This is so biased god
Ronaldo is the top scorer, top assister, most chances created, most trophies, most finals played in UCL idk how you made Messi relevant
@@ubaidmalik2517 sorry I've just seen the replies. But I'm doing per game because Ronaldo has played 148 more games. And messi should have 3 or 4 puskas wins. And Ronaldo has less ucl g/a per game it's only because he's played more that his g/a look better.
But in the quarter finals and semi finals hes got better stats than Messi in the ucl. I'll admit that. But that's it
They’re both unreal players and they shouldn’t disregard eachother. Personally I used to prefer Messi but he’s been a bit quiet recently. I really like the whole image Ronaldo has now of being the perfect athlete etc
Messi is far
Im embarrassed you're are classed as a football fan.
Perfect athlete, its called football not athlete. He is a decent player but he is nothing special with the ball at his feet. I always say Ronaldo is the best without the ball and Messi is the best with the ball. He was a great dribbler back in the day but that is more than 10+ years ago.
The Messi fan is just a deluded kid😂😂 "It's not great to see Ronaldo play, even when he was in Madrid" He doesn't give Ronaldo any credit while the Ronaldo fan gives Messi his deserved credit. Now I know who is a real football fan😂
Honestly both are delusional
If you Watch it properly than u would understand Ronaldo fan was delusion too...He literally said Ronaldo's dribbling is as good as Messis 🤣🤣
Ronaldo actually isn't fun to watch, he was effective but not fun to watch.
@@konarkbasu5282 ur a kid
@@konarkbasu5282 you started watching football in 2018
When the Messi Fan said "pre-assists" you just knew nothing he says after that would make any sense.
It means through passes
Nah it actually means creating a build up play by giving the ball to a player to make that one assist the scorer which is a great point cause Ronaldo can't do that most of the times cause he wants to score. It's all about team play not individual
@@alexanderatkins5595 yeah but it needs individual ability to make that through passes I don't know why cr fans doesn't know such things..... They doesn't appreciate football they appreciate the things that cr is good that...... These fans are degrading the actual meaning of Football
To be honest ,the Messi fan doesn’t accept when he’s wrong
What?? 😂😂Ronaldo is has same dribbling as messi??
@@junamheman1711 pesshit
@@junamheman1711 that was his probaly his only flaw tbh the dribbling bit
@@mxsthxted no one asked
@@mxsthxted MESSI IS THE GOAT. KEEP CRYING🤡🤡🤡
“1 league goal” I love how he snuck that in there😂
The Balon D’or is based on the whole year not from august i’m not going to be delusional and say he’s been good in the 2021-22 season but him have 1 goal from august to december won’t stop the fact he deserves the balon d’or
@@dalvin7198 you are right
@@dalvin7198 he didn’t derseved the 2011 ballon d’or 2019 ballon d’or and 2021 ballon d’or he didn’t derseve
@@Yoaneemmanuel Lol. terrible take, another delusional messi hater
@@Yoaneemmanuel Season 2018/2019 51 goals and 19 assists in 50 games, most motm, most goals, pichichi in la liga, golden boots and you're saying that he didnt deserved the bo that year, what a fucking casual
Comparing ronaldo and Messi’s dribbling ability even in ronaldos prime is criminal. That’s one thing no body can’t compare to Messi. Dribbling. Nobody.
Tbf for awhile Hazard was actually a more successful dribbler than Messi. Obviously Messi is still the better dribbler overall though
@PVRIS I’m just speaking statistically. You can google it if you don’t believe me. Obviously Messi’s dribbles where he beats 6+ men are better, but Hazard was more successful (less losing the ball when attempting a dribble) than Messi for awhile, which is quite impressive for playing in physical premier league.
Hazard was doing 6.4 dribbles per 90 SUCCEEDING 75% of them.
Messi 5.5 per 90, 62% success (tho he was abit older and less fast/agile at this point)
Please be mature and able to have a discussion instead of attacking anyone who says something slightly bad about Messi, I think he is the best player ever its just an interesting fact about Hazard
Only maradona it’s on the same level as messi in dribbling
Only Maradona is comparable.
Maradona, Ronaldinho, Neymar are very much comparable tho
I mean invite these two back and see how things spice up
Yeah 😂
For me it's as simple as Ronaldo is the best among men, but Messi is something different. Being a Man Utd fan, I will always have a special place for Ronaldo, as he is our boy, but Messi is just different. I see Ronaldo score so many great goals, win trophies, and be fit as a fiddle, but there is a limit to what he can do, and does. Again, he is the best among men. There is no footballer that I have ever seen that makes the game of football like so effortless, and simple as Messi makes it look. You can say what you want about Messi not showing up in big games, or being on perfect teams, but based on pure talent, and ability, nobody comes close to Messi. For me, I idolise Ronaldo more, and he is so likeable, and clutch, and he's always showing up on the biggest stage, but if you really watch Ronaldo, it's clear to see that he's only human. With Messi, sometimes that is hard to believe. I will always prefer Ronaldo, for his physical aspects, and his contributions for Man Utd, but if we're being totally honest Messi is just out of this world. Every time Messi is on the pitch, its magic when he's on the ball, and there is a buzz around him. You wonder when he get's the ball if he is going to dribble past everyone and score, or pick out a beautiful pass. With Ronaldo it's always very much about himself, and he's a very selfish footballer.
You’ve summed it up perfectly
One thing I heard from Zidane , don't know it's true or someone made it but it was actually true. When Messi has the ball, his vision is clear.That I saw ever since I started to watch him , whenever he gets the ball ,just look at the defence of the opposition team. Attack starts from & he's the guy competing each year for Most goals & that's absolutely outrageous. Never seen before + this much consistency. I don't think Cris is selfish either , ever since he joined Real Madrid , he's been playing as an inverted winger or a striker so he shoots more.
@@menoswater1032 no your just a messi fan thats why
some bullshit this is
@@jamiemathew665 he said hes a united fan can you read
The last question sums it up 😆
Messi fans could dismiss Ronaldo's existence if they could 😆😆
Excellent representation of what Messi fans usually are like - Idiotic, unreasonable, and hard to listen to. This baldy's whole argument of Messi being a better goalscorer was based on better goal to game ratio of Messi, in La Liga, Ronaldo had better goal to game ratio than Messi. His numbers have been impacted by playing in England and Italy. Just look at what Messi is doing in France now.
and your are goona base a player's legacy on one football season?
Stop it
Ronaldo have a better goal ratio by how much? Yes by 0.1
Assists? Messi miles above.
Messi has more goals against PL in UCL than Ronaldo.
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You're a representation of a typical ronaldo fan- saying all that but blatantly ignore the nonsense the cr7 fans is saying. Same level as messi at dribbling when he was at real madrid is one of the most deluded football opinion i have ever heard.
As a football fan I have seen a lot of players play but Ronaldo and Messi are very unique. Ronaldo scores goals when you want and Messi creates chances. Ronaldo is a mixture of great acrobatic skills and Messi has great vision. They are different in their own ways so you cannot compare them since they don't have same style of play.
Ronaldo just as good as Messi at dribbling? My god someone needs glasses
@Eli I know some people just don’t know anything just to put into context, Ronaldo I’m his prime dribbling year in Man Utd he was averaging 4 dribbles a game, Messi in his prime dribbling year was averaging 9 dribbles per game, Messi worst dribbling year he was averaging 4.17 dribbles per game, also Messi has every stat in every tournament higher for dribbling and overall.
@@renatolekaj4790 ur calcuacting dribbles😂
@@eththeman well that’s how it works, just can’t get over the fact that Messi is a way better dribbler than Ronaldo ever was. These are stats than prove Messi is a way better dribbler
@@renatolekaj4790 os this completed dribbles or attempted dribbles?
@@fifalegendguy67 completed dribbles
The Messi guy saying that context doesn’t matter with stats is so deluded. Context has to be applied to every stat or else you can just manipulate them.
Can’t really manipulate goals to game ratio or goal contributions per game especially when they played in the same league most their prime.
@@DMBCFC he did say that context doesn’t matter though
Messi is better facts hurt g
@@DMBCFC You can. Ronaldo left a UCL winning and a 2nd time UCL Finalist team to join a Spanish team that didn't win it since 2002. Ronaldo then won 4 UCLs with that team. Left it, to join a team that didn't win a UCL since 1996. Now left that team that has cleared UCL round of 16 every single year in the last 3 years, to a team that had failed to win Europa League last year and didn't win a league since 2013. Ronaldo has left 2 highly winning teams to not so winning ones, in his career of 3 clubs.
Messi on the other hand, started in a team that won the UCL when he was just a substitute. He never left that team, they won 3 more UCL with him. Many many League trophies. Now, he hasn't won the UCL since 2015, and joined another team that was the UCL Finalist in 2020.
Its easier to see who has had the better team through out. You can't score goals by yourself, neither can you assist them by yourself. The better the team mates, the better the stats.
While Ronaldo's team mates have been world class too, they are not the same as "some" of Messi's (core of Spanish team 2008-2012) or a 3 times Ballon D'or winning team mate or a golden shoe winning team mate.
Goal to game ratio doesn't factor, that one guy takes time to adapt, the time that the other guy never had to spend. Context matters every single time. It doesn't factor the difference in teams and team mates.
Even after all this, Ronaldo has 451 goals in 438 matches for a Spanish side. Now add context to it, and you will see how much more those 451 were than its pure number.
@@rfhsgaming1938 I wish we had more ppl like u. I always say this but ppl just don’t say that kind of stuff. That is so true.
The fact that he didn't strongly agree that both are great players is mental😂
So, I'm a strong Messi fan, and I strongly believe that he's the best player in football history... But the Messi fan (Ross, I believe) can't be the person y'all choose to participate in this debate. He takes it too personally... The Ronaldo fan is good, but throwing in insults just makes you look weak in a debate.
Yeah bro true
Ronaldo clear
@@user-ye9bc7nw2c no lmao
Ronaldo fan was way more chill. The Messi player couldn't hear anything bad about Messi
Are you joking or serious? There is ronaldo who always slams messi, like typing essays on instagram, writing factos under his fanpage, on 2022 new year day, typing another essay by posting a picture and describing his last year etc etc.. And there is messi, never said anything wromg about him in front of everyone. He just accept everything and move on. He is very calm guy in these kind of things.
@@arviethakur1217 because Ronaldo isn't afraid of saying what he thinks while Messi says that Robert is one of the best in the world and then votes for his friends on the best award
@@joseelcolchonero4795 dude shut up, Messi said Lewandowski deserved it last year, he told he is a great competitor and player but he never said Lewandowski deserved the ballon dor in 2021. If you dont listen and only hear to respond you come up with this nonsense.
@@joseelcolchonero4795 that is different thing.... Ronaldo is arrogant we all know.. We can see his jealousy towards messi.. But you can see, even he said i never had any competion with messi but then said our rivalry pushed me even him as well. I mean, come on, robert isnt his rivalry. Messi doesnt get jealous of anyone. He always choose neymar we all know... But what ronaldo do.. When ever messi gets any good, then ronaldo starts typing essays.. Imagine doing comment under his fanpage 😭😭😭😭... And his sister posted pics, his mother spoken bad about messi.. Even i want to say, his whole family is jealoused of messi.. Ronaldo acts like crying babies.. Messi is more like disciplined, more calm than him.. And his football?.. Aah we all know the difference between these 2
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The disrespect towards copa america is absolutely laughable.
Its played every year and has 10 teams. 2 of them are decent. Cavani has won the copa america, i guess that means hes better than messi. ‘Messi fan logic’
It’s deserved
The disrespect towards Copa America is absolutely accurate.
Yup
Please explain why that tournament deserves any respect. There's only about 4 teams that's are good enough to win in the last decade (Brazil, Argentina, Chile and Uraguay).
And compare them to European teams. Brazil are arguably the best out of the 4 I mentioned and they get battered in the world cup, what happened against Germany was a joke.
This Messi fan is so toxic.
And Ronaldo fan was on drugs
@@smarthyt1420 I actually found him to be very rational.
@@TalinDuttaOk, I dont want to start an argument but......only 10 secs in, and the ronaldo fan has just said "Ronaldo's as good as Messi when it comes to dribbling".....I'm sorry but everyone knows that its not true....The number of successful dribbles by Messi is more than that of Neymar's and Ronaldo's combined....
I have nothing against Ronaldo btw, I respect him and I was just stating facts
@@jobithomas901 In my opinion both of these guys are the worst guys to have this debate with however, compared to the Messi fan who just discredited Ronaldo's accomplishments and reputation, I found the Ronaldo fan more rational.
@@jobithomas901 I agree ronaldo wasnt as good at dribbling but ronny is 6 ft 1 that's insane to have that speed and agility at that height, messi is 5 ft 7 and has a really low center of gravity its easier for him to dribble I'd argue
Messi used to get made fun of because he had 0 international trophies but now that he has 2 copa America , 1 World Cup and finalissima but now that he has achieved all of those they don’t matter because he plays for Argentina . The ronaldo fan base might be the most delusional fan base I’ve seen in the world .
we want this debate after 2022 wc
Messi does things we have never seen before. When he says “just as good as Messi at dribbling” that just tells you who is more superior.
Bro he says just as good as messi at dribbling because they have differences, messi might be better at dribbling and ronaldo can be better at shooting. And now imagine ronaldo having similaar dribbling and that good of a shooting that he has
@@sousafn8725 No just stick to the facts and reality .Stop imagine things🙄 he is right and end of story
🤣is there no other plyer in the world who doesn't dribble hello other plyer are also good more than messi it's just we don't highlights it 🥱🥱
And what u mean we have never seen 🤣did he fly while dribbling
@@jamesvlogandfood7260 it’s more the fact that he’d take on teams single handedly and get through when there’s no space and more that it was so many times. We’ve never seen someone do these things as often as Messi and as effortlessly. His famous goal against Athletic Club in the cup final when he was at the throw in line he got past three defenders with 3 touches in like a second. Never been a dribbler as effective and efficient
Unfortunately, Real's CL wins are overrated. Luckily, there is the world cup as the highest achievement
Winning the champions league is no small feat, city and PSG have put billions into their teams to try win it and have failed so far. What Madrid did to win it 3 times in a row and the impact Ronaldo had in that run cannot be downplayed, even Barcelona at their peak couldn't dream of winning the champions league 3 times in a row
3:50 - I am a Messi fan, but to say Pele played in a farmers league is incorrect. The Brazilian league at the time, was considered the best league in the world.
"Just as good as messi". Then and there messi fan should have pulled a red card from his pocket and made him exit and tell him to not come back the next time 😂
Better even better then Messi
I wouldn’t say awful but watching Messi through out his career has been different gravy.
I’m watching this interview after the world cup 2022. So how far my Ronaldo fans? 😂
How bro felt after commenting that😈👿👽🥶
Bro said nations league is better than copa America
It is please tell me why it isn’t the last 5 World Cup Europe won 4 and 1 to South America so you tell me what harder to win because nations league a harder trophy and cops America has about 3 team that I would say a good
I respect both of them..but the reason why I love Messi more is the line..." Never compare a great footballer with a goal scorer"..although Ronaldo climbed up the heights with so much difficulty that only a few can go through that. To be more precise both are the greatest of all time but I love Messi more ( I'm not putting him above someone, I just love that guy more).
facts. Messi is a goalscorer with the most number of assists and a playmaker with the most number of goals. he's the goat.
Here's something to think about:
Nobody fiercely debates and attacks other people about messi vs griezmann, or messi vs sterlimg, or ronaldo vs suarez, or ronaldo vs kane, so clearly deep down the know they are both the top 2 of all time, or they wouldn't even be debating it considering they idolise their player so much
I compare Ronaldo Vs Suarez and I think Suarez is better
@@tcmcity51 funny joke bro
@@tcmcity51 name one attribute suarez is better at other than biting the opposition
@@fifalegendguy67 linking up with teammates hence why Suarez has more assists than Ronaldo
If you have eyes and you watch football for a long time, you’ve already seen ronaldo like players may be not so obsessed with goals and hairstyle, but it’s plenty of them in terms of skills.
Players like Messi you have never seen nor probably will, better scorer than cr7, batter playmaker than cruyff, better passer than xavi, better dribbler than maradona, better free kick scorer than beckham. Mens can play all positions on a field, besides defense and goalie and yet he is unselfish, giving penalty away, so suarez could have a golden boot. yet he is humble and respectful, when single handedly is able to turn any game upside down.
Listen to all professional players and coaches, who are not Portuguese or from Real/Manchester United, all of them saying the same thing.
Stop delusion please.
....better scorer than cr7, batter playmaker than cruyff, better passer than xavi, better dribbler than maradona, better free kick scorer than beckham..and you are asking others to stop being delusional? Oh my....
Better defender than Maldini, better GK than Yashin
then how come messi's form dipped after xavi and iniesta retired? And how can you say he is all those things when currently he is playing in a team full of playmakers and stars and still does so poor? If he was so good he would have dragged barcelona through the games at rome, liverpool and bayern.
@Nameless Clown that’s facts buddy, stats backs it up, that’s how unbelievably good this guy is
@@lubenmihaylov9386 age my man AGE
I was a diehard fan of CR7 and a Mourinho when they were at Real Madrid, I swear but deep inside then, as someone who played football, I knew that Messi was a better all round player than Ronaldo…I hated Messi because he prevented Nigeria from winning under 20 World Cup held in Netherlands in 2005….But at some point, I had to put sentiment aside and admit that Messi is just above everyone else…Mourinho even called him the god of football…Coaches say you need three players or more to stop Messi, but even at that, it’s still impossible to stop…The guy in Man U jersey doesn’t understand anything about football..