Messi has gotten even better 1. He has a Copa America now 2. He won his 7th Ballon d'or making him 2 Ballon d'ors clear of Ronaldo Edit : 3. He won his country the 3rd world cup and potentially will win his 8th ballon d'or 😭😭 Gosh I am so happy!!!
@@fl7_fx lewa deserved it in 2020 but it's not messi fault that fifa cancelled the awards that year due to covid and in 2021 messi won the copa america being the best goalscorer, best playmaker and the best player of the tournament and when you take a look at there club sides in 2021 lewa was playing with Bayren with some of the best players on the planet while messi was playing with barcelona a team that was 14th in the league at the start of the season and messi put them in top 3 by the end of the season while being the top scorer of la liga and top assist provider.
Messi is not internationally better lmao. He has less goals and trophies than ronaldo on the international stage. He has more retirements though, credit to him for that
@@ragnarok283 LoL let's see Maradona didn't have tye consistency unlike the Goat Messi who can perform for a whole 13+ years and btw he won the World cup so gg Maradona Messi is the Best
@@H00H It’s not all about stats. Maradona was the best player in the world from late 70s to 1990/1991. Plus, his era was better, the defense was tougher and he didn’t had all star team like Messi in Barcelona and now PSG. Maradona turned that shithole Napoli to be a dominant force in the best league in the world. That’s another thing. Messi NEVER played in the toughest league, not to mention to lead a garbage team to the top. Also, the 1986 Maradona’s World Cup run is by far the greatest by an individual player.
@@commontouch1787 In every measurable statistic Messi beats Ronaldo any day any time. Only stat Ronaldo has is goals total and Messi will beat that eventually with time. Ronaldo is a great athlete and goalscorer, but it's more fair comparing them in golf than in Football cause Messi is just leagues better.
Update Messi with Argentina won the Copa America beating the champions (Brazil) in their home in 2021 Then went and beat the European champions (Italy) winning the Finalissima cup. And finally won the FIFA World Cup in Qatar beating the champions of the world ( France) in the historic final... So now he got the first one too and end up with a 4 - 0 for Messi
11:21 This perfectly summarise it. I dont know why there is even a debate. Ronaldo is just another striker(like you can see in the video), but he scores more tap ins goals and penalties, and shoots more and inaccuretely.
@@commontouch1787 dude can u pls explain to me how u still exist after watching this video, also how could like call him pessi, when this video literally showed ronaldo only excelled in penalties and diving, and he had only one goal in 2022 world cup and that too was a penalty, his frickicks is hitting wall bit too much in saudi league btw. So like I don't even know who held u at gunpoint to post this comment. I am flabergasted.
Messi is originally a playmaker and Ronaldo is a playmaker and Ronaldo played 130 games more than Messi and the goal difference is only 35 goals, and Messi is the most goal-making player in history and competes for the best scorer in history and Ronaldo excels in the goal scorer only, the clip looks old Messi now has two championships With his national team, he has 7 ballon d’or And Ronaldo has 5
Well. Of course Ronaldo has 3 more seasons than Messi but in the first one he wasn't even a striker. He was a left midfielder and then his two firsts season with the United weren't meant to be a goalscorer.
The reason Ronaldo gets GOAT shouts is because he is a PR merchant. He does something controversial in every few weeks, gives a lot of interviews and frequently interact with his fan pages on instagram. While Messi is a simple man, he doesn't know how to speak english making him far more unreachable than Ronaldo when it comes to PR, he stays out of controversies, never claims he's the best player of all time.
Bro I cannot tell if you are trolling or straight up stupid. If anything Ronaldos Interviews and media involvement is bad for his PR because people always mock him and see him in a worse light because of them. It has in some ways tarnished his legacy, Dont be out here talking nonsense as if Ronaldo hasnt had a GOAT status career. Most goals for Madrid, all his champions league records and the highest scoring international footballer. Show some respect
Ronaldo is playing professional football for 20 years and you literally based his 20 years of football with what happened in last few months. Those things you mention literally happened in last few months and reason is because his form start do decline. When he was at his prime he never did that.
I mean Messi is: -Top 2 in goals -Top 1 in assists -Top 1 in dribbling -Top 1 in playmaking -Top 2 in "UCL", -Top 5 in "Wc" -Top 1 in "Ballon d'Or" -Top 1 in "Golden Boot" -Top 1 in "THE BEST" award -Top 1 in "Laureus award" -Top 1 in the "IFFHS best playmaker" award -Top 2 in the "UEFA Trophy" award Meanwhile Ronaldo is -Top 1 in goals -Top 7 in assists -Top 20 in dribbling -Top 12 in playmaking -Top 1 in "UCL" -Top 80 in "WC" -Top 2 in "Ballon d'or" -Top 2 in "Golden Boot" -Top 2 in "THE BEST" award -Top N/A in "Laureus award" -Top 1 in the "UEFA Trophy" award The point where the debate comes in is between the goals, where each one has arguments to be classified as the best goalscorer, and in the UCL, (where Ronaldo is better than Messi in this aspect). In literally every other aspect of football, Messi wins. The thing is that, in the football aspects where Ronaldo wins, Messi is close or even in same level compared to Ronaldo, while in the football aspects where Messi wins, Messi has a significant advantage in each one, where Ronaldo is not close to Messi in those things. Yes, the only debate is in the UCL (Ronaldo clearly better in this aspect) and in goals (debatable), in other things, Messi has a lot of advantage.
The debate ends with the fact that messi is not even trying to be the best ... u can see in other sports how people like Jordan, lebron , Jon Jones, wilt chamberlain etc want to be goats , but messi genuinely and introvertly doesn't even want to be the goat
For an nba comparison, Messi has Kyrie's handle, Steph's shot making, Magic's passing, and Jordan's tenacity. Forget about it... Ronaldo is a one trick pony like LeBron: big, strong, great at finishing close to the goal/rim but no where close to the pure skill, talent, and God given talent that Messi possess.
Imagine calling the most complete player one trick pony. Ronaldo can do everything Messi does but Messi can't do everything Ronaldo does. Messi is pretty much useless against low block team but only way to solve it is having someone that dominant in the air. Messi has no defensive contribution and he demands ball at his feet all the time means his team will struggle defensively. You guys only see oh he dribbles well oh he passes well but there are other factors in this game. He loses possession more than anyone and he can't impact a game without having 50,60+ touches.
The thing is to score you have to kick hard so that keeper doesn’t make it. You need both precision and power. And, sometimes it just goes off. Trust me ,it is harder than it looks😅
You think that by feinting he is a better dribbler, but he does those picturesque feints and wastes time to dodge a player, maybe 2. Messi shows that he is more effective by touching the ball once or twice to dodge an opponent and he it does against 3 or 4 at a time. I understand that you are amazed by the meaningless dance, but when you play soccer and see Messi you understand that he does everything that is right on a soccer field.
I mean messi chooses to focus on football as a player and is gives time to family, and ronaldo focuses on insta and shows the world that he trains a lot.
According to this video now Messi wins in all categories making it 4-0 since he won the World Cup the cola america and the finallisima so he is better internationally
This is old. On 2021 Messi won Copa America and in 2022 Finalissima Cup (both count as international). Also, I respect CR7 a lot, but there is no possible scenario in which he is better than Messi...anyone who likes football agrees
nah I seriously believe, he literally watched this video and flipped the switch overtook ronaldo in international trophies and winning too. I genuinly think messi is that villain who be plotting real hard while eating grandma's cookies.
He used facts and stats you have no argument, and the only category he won "winning" is outdated since messi won 3 trophies including a wc so he would win that category so it would be 4-0
@@canpolat_1 Messi gets his PR cause he's simply better, Ronaldo has to do Piers Morgan interviews to get relevant again. Messi just plays Football and Ronaldo can't keep up on the pitch.
messi has reached 4 copa america finals winning only 1 of them and reached the wc final ronaldo only reached the euro finals twice and won it once and didnt even play in the final cause he got injured messi preformes better with hes country and the reason cr7 has more goals with his country is cause he played way more games cause in europe they play more games with their country than south america but lets call it even since they both have 1 major trophy with their country in tearms of leagues cr7 won premier league la liga and serie a messi only played on la liga and ligue 1 but messi has more league titles cr7 has played in different leagues though so there even on that too in ucl cr7 is better winning 5 ucl titles and being the all time top scorer and assister in champions league messi won 4 but only 3 where he played in the main formation and is the second all time scorer and assister in ucl now individual stats and trophies messi is just clear winning 7 balon dors 6 golden boots having a better g/a ratio and having the record for most goals scored in a year with 91 goals his dribbling and chance creation stats are way better than ronaldo and is better at free kicks and scored more free kicks hes has better vision balance ball control dribbling ronaldo is better at finishing heading and longshot goals also has more pace overall messi is better and if he wasnt so unlucky with argentina at the wc in 2014 final he would have ended the goat debate there
Messi started his career as a forword while Ronaldo started as a midfielder. He played 150+ game as a midfielder and then ranked to play as a forward. It’s difficult to say anything just by watching a video without knowing the actual facts. Ronaldo is also a victim of media only regular football lovers know. And thats why he is the most followed person of all time.
''Honestly feel like they should not be comparing them''.......dingdingding we got a winner. Messi fans been saying this to CR7 fans for over a decade. Messi is an alien Ronaldo is the best of the humans. Messi World Cup + Copa America + finalissima 2022 and possible 8 ballon Dor in 2023. Messi is the Goat.
That's video is too old bro....... Messi wins FIFA World Cup golden ball 2 time he wins World Cup in 2022 December..... now he wins Ballon d'Or 7 time and for sure he will also wins Ballon d'Or 2023 (8 times) because he wins World Cup this year... There is no debate no doubts no more Messi is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME.... THE GOAT🐐🐐🐐❤️❤️❤️
Its more 1 sided when you add recent achievements especially on the winning part because he comes out on top for that too hes won 5 things with Argentina if you count everything with world cup, under 20s world cup, Olympic gold, Copa America and finalissima he will never be everyone's goat because their feelings will impact their choice and no matter what to certain people there will always be a reason he isn't but most of those in the sport who are held in high regards say hes the best there ever has been and will be and when you take personal preferences out and look at different aspects of the game he also comes out well in front at the end of the day hes a legend and always will be and we should be proud we have witnessed him and other greats
Delusions are a serious Psychiatry condition... for all the people still think and argue ronaldo is better than messi, please visit a psychiatrist..Take care of your health.🙂☕️
Dani Alves has 42 so he is better than Messi? Ronaldo has Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, 5 UCLs, and Euro. Ronaldo won every domestic cup in 3 top leagues. He has a much better trophy cabinet than Messi and it's not even open to a debate.
This video is so misleading. Ronaldo had a higher average goal ratio when they were both playing in the same league. Messi played the majority of his career in a league that only had 2 good teams while Ronaldo played in much harder leagues like the Premier League and Serie A. Even now Messi is playing in a much weaker league (French league)
On the 16.00 point. Its different to watch higlights from these players and to watch a full match. You would not rathere play against Ronaldo, no way. Messi takes the eye test, that is a universaly accepted fact among football fans.
Messi defeated Ronaldo in the Champions-League-Final 2009 2:0, and he scored the winnery. Also with Barcelona, Messi beat Real Madrid with Ronaldo 5:0. I think Ronaldo is the most dangerous player ever without the ball, meaning when that late cross comes in, you just know that man is gonna get his head on that. But with Messi, he starts and finishes the attack, he's the best player ever with the ball. I feel his overall playstyle and willingness to hype up and set up his teammates, puts Messi head and shoulders above Ronaldo. But I mean 2nd greatest player of all time should not be interpreted as disrespect towards CR7 in my opinion.
@@giovannirodriguez4444 being able to step aside for other superstars and accept slightly different roles can also be a strong indication for leadership. Steph Curry was able to step aside for Kevin Durant, nobody would say Curry wasn't the leader of those teams. Also by hyping up I mean assisting them of showing more support by celebrating teammates goals.. Ronaldo is a great leader, but his justified, supreme confidence in himself prevents him from choosing the smart pass instead of taking a tough shot sometimes. And one recent example of Ronaldo's performance against South Corea- when he got subbed on he was only concerned with scoring himself, and when Leao scored a banger-goal instead of crossing the ball to Ronaldo, he turned away looking annoyed. Messi will pass you the ball inside the box and even from the penalty spot.. that'll get you hyped.
@@giovannirodriguez4444not a leader lol so that’s why Argentine players jeep saying they’ll do anything for Messi and did you see the speech he made in the Netflix documentary during the copa final
Watching Messi is witnessing pure talent... It comes naturally... Ronaldo is pure training, which i respect to dead... This said rather watch Messi... Just imagine they played both in ine team....
Messi is like if LeBron put up wilt scoring averages. Magic assist numbers and had Kyries handles. The gap between him individually and any other player is one of the most absurd things in all of team sports
This video needs an update : Messi has won the World Cup now and has much better statistics than Ronaldo now. I am impressed that this video called him the GOAT even before he got his 7th Ballon D'Or. He might get an 8th one next year.
Even items of winning category, messi has surpassed ronaldo, messi has 41 trophies to 32 or 34 of critiano and if win the world cup on the 18th of December the goat debate is over
The thing is lot of these stats are Misleading as Messi has played in easier leagues whereas Ronaldo has played in harder leagues eg. The best league in the world which is the premier league. got 18 premier league league goals last season at 37 years old and was one of the top scorers.
Stop that "never played in premier league" bs. He played english teams and wrecked them every time in CL. Its not even close between Ronaldo and Messi. Messi is far better.
@@canpolat_1 yeah premier league ain’t nothing but a glorified farmers league. Man city have won 4 outta 5 last pl whereas there has been 3 different laliga winners in the same period not to mention laliga teams have dominated UCL for over a decade. Real has won 4, Barca has won 2 and atletico has been to 2 finals alone in the last decade .Teams like villareal and sevilla have dominated the europa league they outperform teams like man utd and half of the epl times everytime they meet.
Ronaldo is a social media guy & that's wat he likes unlike Messi who's a private guy not too much to that life of cr7's lifestyle and that brings differences in their popularity
Hey? Are we still counting? If so, please add another FIFA Footballer of the Year to Messi as well as Best Player of the World Cup and the 15th appearance in the FIFA team of the year. Goat!
Messi or Ronaldo?
Messi all day.
Messi obv now he has won 1 more balandor(7:5))and he is better internationally aswell lol
messi
@@zmx6802 true. Messi now has seven balondors and 2 international trophies. Which makes him the better winner now.
I admit that Messi is better but I will always support Ronaldo because he always makes you want to watch a match, and they're so entertaining 👍
Messi has now won 3 international titles since this video. So I'd say the winning criteria has clearly tiped
Ademas de 2 medallas de oro olímpico y mundial sub 20
4 now
Its 4 mate now❤
4-0 lol
Rigged
Ronaldo is a phenomenal player, a powerhouse of an athlete. But Messi is just a miracle. A freak of nature. An Unexplainable talent.
All 10-18y kids are saying the same thing
@@Moga. nah everyone says it 😂
@@Moga. My dad is 65 and he says Messi is better than Pele and Maradona and he saw both live. Messi is just the best.
@@Moga. Yeah I know WHOuARE! 🤣
@@markxnzz9840 cuz only people like your father that watch fullmatch will understand unlike penaldo fans that only watch football from clip
Messi has gotten even better
1. He has a Copa America now
2. He won his 7th Ballon d'or making him 2 Ballon d'ors clear of Ronaldo
Edit :
3. He won his country the 3rd world cup and potentially will win his 8th ballon d'or 😭😭 Gosh I am so happy!!!
Yeah but if were being honest 3 of messi ballon dors should have gone to other people
Talking about robbed dors. Every normal football supporter knows it should be 6 dors each. Expect sick messi fanboys
@@fl7_fx Whst is normal football supporter. Football fans voted messi to win ballon dors
@@fl7_fx lewa deserved it in 2020 but it's not messi fault that fifa cancelled the awards that year due to covid and in 2021 messi won the copa america being the best goalscorer, best playmaker and the best player of the tournament and when you take a look at there club sides in 2021 lewa was playing with Bayren with some of the best players on the planet while messi was playing with barcelona a team that was 14th in the league at the start of the season and messi put them in top 3 by the end of the season while being the top scorer of la liga and top assist provider.
@@fl7_fx you are wrong and you're not even hiding your bias with ronaldo in your profile picture
this video is kinda old now messi got even better stats... Also messi is internationally already better for sure
Ronaldo won an international trophy before messi
@@bhuncho5051 so?
ronaldo has more international goals and trophies
Messi is not internationally better lmao. He has less goals and trophies than ronaldo on the international stage. He has more retirements though, credit to him for that
Let’s not mention that Ronaldo won his Euro 2016 title mostly from the bench due to injury 😂🤔🙄
For people who knows ball knows Messi is by far the greatest player ever to touch the ball and it's not even an opinion it's a fact! 🐐✨
No it’s Maradona and Messi is after him. Cristiano Ronaldo not in top 15.
Pele...Fifa knows Best
@@ragnarok283 LoL let's see Maradona didn't have tye consistency unlike the Goat Messi who can perform for a whole 13+ years and btw he won the World cup so gg Maradona Messi is the Best
@@H00H It’s not all about stats. Maradona was the best player in the world from late 70s to 1990/1991. Plus, his era was better, the defense was tougher and he didn’t had all star team like Messi in Barcelona and now PSG. Maradona turned that shithole Napoli to be a dominant force in the best league in the world. That’s another thing. Messi NEVER played in the toughest league, not to mention to lead a garbage team to the top. Also, the 1986 Maradona’s World Cup run is by far the greatest by an individual player.
Omg,only kids from 10-18 years old are here?🤣🤣
Messi can 1v1 anyone like nothing with the most simple move in football☠💀
Goat 🐐 🇦🇷
“Simple move” 😂😂😂😂
That’s what he is. SIMPLE
all he does is drop his shoulder and he's gone💀
No he can’t
all he’s ever done is drop a shoulder and feint his entire career and it works every time 😭 ball glued to his foot
Defensive players have said it is impossible to defend Messi one on one. "He's just too good".
Fax
Lie
@@commontouch1787 nah theres a clip of some tier 1 team's defender saying the same. Forgot who it was.
@@commontouch1787 search up jerome boateng talking about defending messi hes said its not possible defending messi
@@commontouch1787 Another Pendu fan
Exactly, They shouldn't be compared. But people always needs some kinda "Rivalry". Messi is galaxies above Ronaldo.
Bro don’t watch football. Ronaldo is clear by miles it’s not even a comparison
@@commontouch1787 just tell me how. u just watched a video PROVING that Messi is clear by far. tell me how he is not
@@gl1ding no, he is just another blind ronaldo fan
@@commontouch1787 In every measurable statistic Messi beats Ronaldo any day any time.
Only stat Ronaldo has is goals total and Messi will beat that eventually with time.
Ronaldo is a great athlete and goalscorer, but it's more fair comparing them in golf than in Football cause Messi is just leagues better.
@@commontouch1787 just another salty ronaldo fanboy😂😂😂
He's winning the world cup, best player of the World cup, best scorer and assistent of world cup and possibly the 8th ballon Dor 💀unbelievable
“So delusion” killed me🤣
dude on the left is funny af, follows the standards of ronaldo fans
Do you want football ⚽️ reactions again?
Ofc.
Pls react to uk drill 😭
Ofcourse we want more. Now its world cup. You have to react to the matches and goals. Messi is killing it by the way🔥⚡
the world cup is on, biggest sporting event on the planet, your'e fumbling the bag by not reacting as it's happening, look at Speed out there
yes please
Update
Messi with Argentina won the Copa America beating the champions (Brazil) in their home in 2021
Then went and beat the European champions (Italy) winning the Finalissima cup.
And finally won the FIFA World Cup in Qatar beating the champions of the world ( France) in the historic final...
So now he got the first one too and end up with a 4 - 0 for Messi
then another Copa making it a treble of International Trophies
11:21 This perfectly summarise it. I dont know why there is even a debate. Ronaldo is just another striker(like you can see in the video), but he scores more tap ins goals and penalties, and shoots more and inaccuretely.
Now Messi has 3 International Major Trophies ( senior) - Copa America, Finalissima and the World Cup. Also, Now he has 7 Baloon d'or .
messi has 7 ballon d'or
Deserved 2
@@commontouch1787 😂😂😂
And the 8th is coming
@@commontouch1787 cry
Now you all know messi is miles milesss clear
Ok pessi fan 😂 if it makes you sleep at night
@@commontouch1787 keep crying with penaldo in his car 😂
@@commontouch1787 how many World Cup Ronaldo have? 😂
@@commontouch1787 dude can u pls explain to me how u still exist after watching this video, also how could like call him pessi, when this video literally showed ronaldo only excelled in penalties and diving, and he had only one goal in 2022 world cup and that too was a penalty, his frickicks is hitting wall bit too much in saudi league btw. So like I don't even know who held u at gunpoint to post this comment. I am flabergasted.
Messi is literally the best 1v1 player to ever exist loool
This is old video. Todat Messi will even win the first Winning Category.
Lol, when you realise Messi has already won the world cup, Copa America, Finalissima and another Ballon d'O since this video was made 🐐😂
Messi needs to start letting other people win... its getting tough 🐐
@@scall899 uk what's crazy, ronaldo fans never watch actual comparison video, they only watch the yt shorts comparison video.
Messi already had 7 ballon d'or
and already win copa america
Messi is originally a playmaker and Ronaldo is a playmaker and Ronaldo played 130 games more than Messi and the goal difference is only 35 goals, and Messi is the most goal-making player in history and competes for the best scorer in history and Ronaldo excels in the goal scorer only, the clip looks old Messi now has two championships With his national team, he has 7 ballon d’or And Ronaldo has 5
Well. Of course Ronaldo has 3 more seasons than Messi but in the first one he wasn't even a striker. He was a left midfielder and then his two firsts season with the United weren't meant to be a goalscorer.
Ye ye ye and Messi play strayker all career😂😂😂😂😂 Messi even will play like defender will score like a top stryker😂😂😂😂.Messi is Goat
The reason Ronaldo gets GOAT shouts is because he is a PR merchant.
He does something controversial in every few weeks, gives a lot of interviews and frequently interact with his fan pages on instagram.
While Messi is a simple man, he doesn't know how to speak english making him far more unreachable than Ronaldo when it comes to PR, he stays out of controversies, never claims he's the best player of all time.
Bro I cannot tell if you are trolling or straight up stupid. If anything Ronaldos Interviews and media involvement is bad for his PR because people always mock him and see him in a worse light because of them. It has in some ways tarnished his legacy, Dont be out here talking nonsense as if Ronaldo hasnt had a GOAT status career. Most goals for Madrid, all his champions league records and the highest scoring international footballer. Show some respect
So accurate!!!💯
Yep he’s played for the biggest clubs in England , Italy and Spain - he’s got the largest fan base by a mile
messi got that ball is life motto
Ronaldo is playing professional football for 20 years and you literally based his 20 years of football with what happened in last few months.
Those things you mention literally happened in last few months and reason is because his form start do decline. When he was at his prime he never did that.
Hi guys, this video is about 2 years old and Messi has now won the Copa America and a 7th Ballon D’or 😉😂🐐❤️
And the fuckin' worldcup 😭
@@alanjohnson7994 and soon the 8th ballon d or
@@scall899 done
@@scall899 mission accomplished!
I mean
Messi is:
-Top 2 in goals
-Top 1 in assists
-Top 1 in dribbling
-Top 1 in playmaking
-Top 2 in "UCL",
-Top 5 in "Wc"
-Top 1 in "Ballon d'Or"
-Top 1 in "Golden Boot"
-Top 1 in "THE BEST" award
-Top 1 in "Laureus award"
-Top 1 in the "IFFHS best playmaker" award
-Top 2 in the "UEFA Trophy" award
Meanwhile Ronaldo is
-Top 1 in goals
-Top 7 in assists
-Top 20 in dribbling
-Top 12 in playmaking
-Top 1 in "UCL"
-Top 80 in "WC"
-Top 2 in "Ballon d'or"
-Top 2 in "Golden Boot"
-Top 2 in "THE BEST" award
-Top N/A in "Laureus award"
-Top 1 in the "UEFA Trophy" award
The point where the debate comes in is between the goals, where each one has arguments to be classified as the best goalscorer, and in the UCL, (where Ronaldo is better than Messi in this aspect).
In literally every other aspect of football, Messi wins. The thing is that, in the football aspects where Ronaldo wins, Messi is close or even in same level compared to Ronaldo, while in the football aspects where Messi wins, Messi has a significant advantage in each one, where Ronaldo is not close to Messi in those things.
Yes, the only debate is in the UCL (Ronaldo clearly better in this aspect) and in goals (debatable), in other things, Messi has a lot of advantage.
too 80 at the world cup Lmao that’s shocking lol
The debate ends with the fact that messi is not even trying to be the best ... u can see in other sports how people like Jordan, lebron , Jon Jones, wilt chamberlain etc want to be goats , but messi genuinely and introvertly doesn't even want to be the goat
That’s why Messi will never be the GOAT. You have to believe you’re the best or else you ain’t nothing.
@@giovannirodriguez4444yet he’s the goat keep crying about it
Messi is just too humble to say he’s the greatest
@@saadatalimithani You are so dumb and had short mindset, kid
@@giovannirodriguez4444 his the goat without even trying or wanting to be the goat ...
@@giovannirodriguez4444 you dont get it, a real king doesnt need to remind others he's one
3:55 messi won the copa america in 2021 and one cup more same year, the copa america champion and the eurocup champeon vs italy
It's called Finalissima and was in 2022
And world cup too
now recheck
Messi won three international cups in a row
2021 Copa America
2021 Finalissima
2022 World cup
For an nba comparison, Messi has Kyrie's handle, Steph's shot making, Magic's passing, and Jordan's tenacity. Forget about it... Ronaldo is a one trick pony like LeBron: big, strong, great at finishing close to the goal/rim but no where close to the pure skill, talent, and God given talent that Messi possess.
Imagine calling the most complete player one trick pony. Ronaldo can do everything Messi does but Messi can't do everything Ronaldo does. Messi is pretty much useless against low block team but only way to solve it is having someone that dominant in the air. Messi has no defensive contribution and he demands ball at his feet all the time means his team will struggle defensively. You guys only see oh he dribbles well oh he passes well but there are other factors in this game. He loses possession more than anyone and he can't impact a game without having 50,60+ touches.
@@canpolat_1 Never seen a more ignorant or dishonest comment lmao
@@canpolat_1 what a fool you are making from yourself :D :D :D
@@canpolat_1 You haven't watched a single Football match in your life have you?
@@Minifliek been watching since 2005. not everyone has to agree with you give an argument or don't interact with me.
The 'eye test' outcome always comes down to whether you watch football as a sport, or through highlight videos
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Messi won 3 international tittles It's 4-0 now....
The thing is to score you have to kick hard so that keeper doesn’t make it. You need both precision and power. And, sometimes it just goes off. Trust me ,it is harder than it looks😅
That’s why messi isn’t getting as much goals so much times he just needed a lil more power but I think he’s just chilling
You think that by feinting he is a better dribbler, but he does those picturesque feints and wastes time to dodge a player, maybe 2. Messi shows that he is more effective by touching the ball once or twice to dodge an opponent and he it does against 3 or 4 at a time. I understand that you are amazed by the meaningless dance, but when you play soccer and see Messi you understand that he does everything that is right on a soccer field.
If this comparison made by today the result should be 4-0
You guys should pause the video when you wanna talk. yall missed like half the shit said lol
This video is old. Messi now has 7 ballon d’oro and he also won the copa america & finialism trophie for his international team. Stats much better now
They did a LeBron Jordan debate too and it proved Jordan was better but I can guarantee that one of these 3 dudes would say lebron is better 😂.
14:08 “ronaldo has more followers” 😂😂😂that’s every ronaldo fans favourite argument
I mean messi chooses to focus on football as a player and is gives time to family, and ronaldo focuses on insta and shows the world that he trains a lot.
According to this video now Messi wins in all categories making it 4-0 since he won the World Cup the cola america and the finallisima so he is better internationally
Messi won the World Cup.. End of debate
This is old.
On 2021 Messi won Copa America and in 2022 Finalissima Cup (both count as international).
Also, I respect CR7 a lot, but there is no possible scenario in which he is better than Messi...anyone who likes football agrees
I think for these people who aren't into ball ....Ronaldo is the god father....really to be honest Ronaldo has the best marketing team with him ....
Messi is "That guy"
nah I seriously believe, he literally watched this video and flipped the switch overtook ronaldo in international trophies and winning too. I genuinly think messi is that villain who be plotting real hard while eating grandma's cookies.
@@ZA-GOAT He's not done yet
I don't like comparing but for me Messi is the G.O.A.T.
The one that talks in the video is a messi fan
He used facts and stats you have no argument, and the only category he won "winning" is outdated since messi won 3 trophies including a wc so he would win that category so it would be 4-0
2-2 (messi wc & copa america)(ronaldo euro & nations league)@@hyde5505
Never been a debate tbh
I hope y’all paying attention to the World Cup
Now messi has won every international trophy he can possibly win. Goat debate is over.
Messi the GOAT
bro got nothing better to do than comment like 5 times lool
you are spamming messi the goat lol
Stop spamming, we aldready know he is
Dude on the right talkin facts
If Ronaldo wasn't as famous as he is, he wouldn't be in the GOAT debate, extremely good footballer but just not as good as Messi.
yeah he is much better. If Messi had no pr no one would rate him. Man breaks records of lost possession 💀 No defensive contribution aswell.
@@canpolat_1 wow Ronaldo the great defender, can’t remember last time he put pressure on defence.
PR is what Ronaldo made relavant,
U dnt just get famous his talent made him popular.
@@canpolat_1 Messi gets his PR cause he's simply better, Ronaldo has to do Piers Morgan interviews to get relevant again. Messi just plays Football and Ronaldo can't keep up on the pitch.
15:12, they really said the eye test is Cr7😂😂😂. Biggest joke I've heard this year
messi has reached 4 copa america finals winning only 1 of them and reached the wc final ronaldo only reached the euro finals twice and won it once and didnt even play in the final cause he got injured messi preformes better with hes country and the reason cr7 has more goals with his country is cause he played way more games cause in europe they play more games with their country than south america but lets call it even since they both have 1 major trophy with their country in tearms of leagues cr7 won premier league la liga and serie a messi only played on la liga and ligue 1 but messi has more league titles cr7 has played in different leagues though so there even on that too in ucl cr7 is better winning 5 ucl titles and being the all time top scorer and assister in champions league messi won 4 but only 3 where he played in the main formation and is the second all time scorer and assister in ucl now individual stats and trophies messi is just clear winning 7 balon dors 6 golden boots having a better g/a ratio and having the record for most goals scored in a year with 91 goals his dribbling and chance creation stats are way better than ronaldo and is better at free kicks and scored more free kicks hes has better vision balance ball control dribbling ronaldo is better at finishing heading and longshot goals also has more pace overall messi is better and if he wasnt so unlucky with argentina at the wc in 2014 final he would have ended the goat debate there
Messi started his career as a forword while Ronaldo started as a midfielder. He played 150+ game as a midfielder and then ranked to play as a forward. It’s difficult to say anything just by watching a video without knowing the actual facts. Ronaldo is also a victim of media only regular football lovers know. And thats why he is the most followed person of all time.
Messi is now in world cup finals if he wins it there will no more debate about the best player that ever graced the football pitch💕💕💕💕👏❤️❤️❤️
WE WON!
Messi takes that international now 🤩
a lot of these stats have changed
''Honestly feel like they should not be comparing them''.......dingdingding we got a winner.
Messi fans been saying this to CR7 fans for over a decade.
Messi is an alien
Ronaldo is the best of the humans.
Messi World Cup + Copa America + finalissima 2022 and possible 8 ballon Dor in 2023.
Messi is the Goat.
The war is over. Messi has now Won The WORLD CUP. & was player of the Tournament in FIFA WC. & btw he has now 7 Ballon dor & maybe will win 8th one
and the thing is that still that video was bit outdated haha
And Messi has just won the World Cup 🙏🏼
Who is here after Messi won the World cup 💙 2022
Plus one balon d'or and Copa America
And now Messi has 3 international trophies including the biggest of them all, the world cup!!!
Messis the best to 99% of people who are unbiased
simply no.
Ronaldo should be grateful to be compared to Messi
Messi should be grateful to be compared to Ronaldo.
Cant beat Messi in statistics.
bro on the right got his head on straight
That's video is too old bro....... Messi wins FIFA World Cup golden ball 2 time he wins World Cup in 2022 December..... now he wins Ballon d'Or 7 time and for sure he will also wins Ballon d'Or 2023 (8 times) because he wins World Cup this year... There is no debate no doubts no more Messi is the GREATEST OF ALL TIME.... THE GOAT🐐🐐🐐❤️❤️❤️
Its more 1 sided when you add recent achievements especially on the winning part because he comes out on top for that too hes won 5 things with Argentina if you count everything with world cup, under 20s world cup, Olympic gold, Copa America and finalissima he will never be everyone's goat because their feelings will impact their choice and no matter what to certain people there will always be a reason he isn't but most of those in the sport who are held in high regards say hes the best there ever has been and will be and when you take personal preferences out and look at different aspects of the game he also comes out well in front at the end of the day hes a legend and always will be and we should be proud we have witnessed him and other greats
Delusions are a serious Psychiatry condition... for all the people still think and argue ronaldo is better than messi, please visit a psychiatrist..Take care of your health.🙂☕️
1 year later and I still think Ronaldo is better.
Messi now won the world cup and about to win the 8th ballon d'Or. The debate is over.
Messi has 41 trophies and Ronaldo 31. Messi is better in all things
Dani Alves has 42 so he is better than Messi? Ronaldo has Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, 5 UCLs, and Euro. Ronaldo won every domestic cup in 3 top leagues. He has a much better trophy cabinet than Messi and it's not even open to a debate.
@@canpolat_1 both messi and ronaldo would trade their balon dors or ucl titles for the world cup. messi has it now. the debate is over my guy 🤷🏽♂️
This video is so misleading. Ronaldo had a higher average goal ratio when they were both playing in the same league. Messi played the majority of his career in a league that only had 2 good teams while Ronaldo played in much harder leagues like the Premier League and Serie A.
Even now Messi is playing in a much weaker league (French league)
This video was from 2 years ago
Great video.guys. thanks for listening well to the factsss
The debate is over
Messi is better overall and a joy to watch. Whosoever denies it is just delusional.
Ronaldo is better overall and a joy to watch. Whoever denies it, is just delusional.
On the 16.00 point. Its different to watch higlights from these players and to watch a full match. You would not rathere play against Ronaldo, no way. Messi takes the eye test, that is a universaly accepted fact among football fans.
yeah like wtf was that guy talking, especially the white guy annoyed me so much!! like if he just stfu while the video is playing.
Messi 🐐. The greatest most complete player ever. Penaldo penzema Lewandowski are. Dime a dozen
i play football professionally and cr7 is what I define the best player ever
Messi defeated Ronaldo in the Champions-League-Final 2009 2:0, and he scored the winnery. Also with Barcelona, Messi beat Real Madrid with Ronaldo 5:0. I think Ronaldo is the most dangerous player ever without the ball, meaning when that late cross comes in, you just know that man is gonna get his head on that. But with Messi, he starts and finishes the attack, he's the best player ever with the ball. I feel his overall playstyle and willingness to hype up and set up his teammates, puts Messi head and shoulders above Ronaldo. But I mean 2nd greatest player of all time should not be interpreted as disrespect towards CR7 in my opinion.
Hype up ? What are you talking about? He’s not a leader.
@@giovannirodriguez4444 being able to step aside for other superstars and accept slightly different roles can also be a strong indication for leadership. Steph Curry was able to step aside for Kevin Durant, nobody would say Curry wasn't the leader of those teams. Also by hyping up I mean assisting them of showing more support by celebrating teammates goals.. Ronaldo is a great leader, but his justified, supreme confidence in himself prevents him from choosing the smart pass instead of taking a tough shot sometimes. And one recent example of Ronaldo's performance against South Corea- when he got subbed on he was only concerned with scoring himself, and when Leao scored a banger-goal instead of crossing the ball to Ronaldo, he turned away looking annoyed. Messi will pass you the ball inside the box and even from the penalty spot.. that'll get you hyped.
@@giovannirodriguez4444not a leader lol so that’s why Argentine players jeep saying they’ll do anything for Messi and did you see the speech he made in the Netflix documentary during the copa final
Watching Messi is witnessing pure talent... It comes naturally...
Ronaldo is pure training, which i respect to dead...
This said rather watch Messi...
Just imagine they played both in ine team....
Kid without glasses is the brightest out the group what strange twist
Messi is like if LeBron put up wilt scoring averages. Magic assist numbers and had Kyries handles. The gap between him individually and any other player is one of the most absurd things in all of team sports
This video needs an update : Messi has won the World Cup now and has much better statistics than Ronaldo now.
I am impressed that this video called him the GOAT even before he got his 7th Ballon D'Or.
He might get an 8th one next year.
Even items of winning category, messi has surpassed ronaldo, messi has 41 trophies to 32 or 34 of critiano and if win the world cup on the 18th of December the goat debate is over
It's as much a debate as the debate if the earth is flat or spherical.
It doesn't exist even tho some would like it to exist.
Say Ronaldo is better today is delusional 😂😂
The thing is lot of these stats are Misleading as Messi has played in easier leagues whereas Ronaldo has played in harder leagues eg. The best league in the world which is the premier league. got 18 premier league league goals last season at 37 years old and was one of the top scorers.
According to eufa coefficient for leagues Messi career average league place is closer to 1 than ronaldos, stop using this false narrative 👍
Stop that "never played in premier league" bs. He played english teams and wrecked them every time in CL. Its not even close between Ronaldo and Messi. Messi is far better.
@@aDezenT UCL and Premier League is way too different.
@@canpolat_1 yeah premier league ain’t nothing but a glorified farmers league. Man city have won 4 outta 5 last pl whereas there has been 3 different laliga winners in the same period not to mention laliga teams have dominated UCL for over a decade. Real has won 4, Barca has won 2 and atletico has been to 2 finals alone in the last decade .Teams like villareal and sevilla have dominated the europa league they outperform teams like man utd and half of the epl times everytime they meet.
U guys got it wrong Ronaldo don’t score all the time he do tricks Ronaldo has never beat 3 plus defenders and score
Messi is uncomparable in 1 on 1 he only do 1v5, bro said ronaldo better than messi in 1v1 💀
25:00 Messi would dribble past ronaldo for fun. Americans talking about real football is too funny😂
man wtf were they just sayinnn!? omg not another top 5 moments americans are delusional XD
You'd need to watch worst tackles on Messi to understand how strong and resilient he really is!
TBH Messi fan made that video
Bro that video is more than 2 years old . Now, Messi has 3 international trophies and 7 ballon d’ors . He’s fucking World Champion .
Ronaldo is a social media guy & that's wat he likes unlike Messi who's a private guy not too much to that life of cr7's lifestyle and that brings differences in their popularity
yet Messi pays more for pr
Wtf is this video
Its so old
Messi has a copa america now
A wc and another international trophy
Hey? Are we still counting? If so, please add another FIFA Footballer of the Year to Messi as well as Best Player of the World Cup and the 15th appearance in the FIFA team of the year. Goat!
1 on 1 Messi will wipe the floor with Ronaldo
this is old messi clear