@@_antwonTT6 Love WT as diving off a cliff to land on an opposing AFV below appears to be an expected tactic. Don't play WT anymore. Good to know the fall did injure some crew. IMHO your pointing out 90+ AFV currently can kill a King Tiger, usually from the front, in the game much less how many can easily take out a Panther confirms my opinion the Ranking is way off. When your Panther D made in 1943 with only Pak 39 shells runs into a US tank built in 1948 using 1948 HEAT and APCR or a post war French vehicle with the French 75mm designed around the German Panther's gun but with post-war ammunition or a T54 designed to be frontally immune to the 88L71 gun there is something wrong. Must be the history major in me. Thanks for answering my comments, too. Good show.
Interesting thing about the King Tigers- the P and H's turrets weren't designed by Porsche and Henschel, respectively. Krupp manufactured both the pre-production and production variants. The 'Porsche' turret was meant to be mounted on Porsche hulls, but as no Porsche designs were successfully approved, Krupp gave the curved turrets to Henschel to use on their hull design that was approved for production, and those were used until they ran out and switched to the flatter design.
They realized the shot trap wasn't doing any favors to them, so they redesigned the turret. The first 50 king tigers had that turret, while every other ones after had the "Henschel" variant.
Yup. Meant to mention that instead of simplifying the post but I didn't want it being too long-winded. If memory serves, it was also in the interest of simplifying the manufacturing process owing to the bulge created by the commander's cupola on the 'Porsche' turret making things complicated, which also increased the amount of available ready rack stowage as a side effect of the redesign. @Ernestas Jarmak
It's also interesting people call it pre-production, although 50 (out of 500),so 10% had this turret. I prefer calling it 'early production'. And it was also quite hard to produce, the later turret was much simpler. Considering bombing raids on german factories, this was also important factor
Another sad example of a beautiful design, but doesn't work in combat. Another example is the Panther's turrets. It's a sexy design, but again it also suffered a shot trap. If the war went kept going into '46 we would have been seeing more of the "pig nosed" Panthers.
21:23 T-34/85: “lol we are decimating them, we have this in the bag!” M-18 Hellcat: “hell yeah, they just keep getting out of their spawn and greeted by a shot in their side!” Panther A: “GUTEN TAG!!!”
He never actualy says that a tank is bad. He always just says that some tanks are worse then others. Every german tank is extremely powerfull and non of them suffer.
Just looked in the game: The wiki is indeed wrong, it is 6.3 in RB and 6.7 in AB and SB but the wiki put's it a 6.7 in all gamemodes. Thank you for pointing that out.
Rothec yep, saw that change happen a couple weeks ago I believe. If ru251 is 6.7, the m41 should be lower since it’s like an ru but slightly worse in most aspects.
Hey everyone, I hope you enjoy the video! Sorry if this one is a bit quiet, RUclips has a habit of automatically adjusting the levels so everything comes out slightly quieter, although I'll hopefully be getting a new mic soon which should stop it happening, cheers! :-)
You didn't mention that the panther 2 has nightvision. I don't remember if the Panther F has nightvision but in my opinion its an advantage the Panther 2 has that should be mentioned :)
Hey oxy, I know phly dominates the "meme" style of war thunder, which he is great at, but one thing he lacks is the informative style. I think that style suits you. You should start a series on tactics, war thunder news and tank/plane reviews. Quickybaby does this for WoT while jingles does the meme. There is a good balance over there for that. I hope you do more regular videos, cause your content is great
Me: better go to bed, its too late already. Oxy: German ground forces tier IV - review and analysis (50 minutes long) Me: well, my plan went to shit quickly.
The IS/JS series in reverse has a confusion, fear and stupidity meaning 3/5 enemy’s will fail to shot and 2/5 will fail to kill any crew but 0.0000000000001% players will do something to the tank
Unless I'm mistaken Gaijin said that the only tank they would bring back in events is the Maus, and it will be available as a limited time researchable vehicle, like the La-174.
@@ihightreasoni you can buy the E100 but sadly tiger 105, Panther 2 and coelian won't ever come back to the game in any way shape or form. What will come back is the maus and that's about it
@@asiftalpur3758 well that gives me some comfort because I love those two and I'd settle for the e100 alone I suppose how does one go about buying it i have not seen it anywhere?
@@ihightreasoni oh don't even bother. There's only 1 E100 for sale and last I checked, the seller is willing to sell it to you for the small amount of 1100GJN coins. Side note: 1GJN coin= $1 Yeah, $1100 for E100. You can check its current price at war thunder market.
Thank you for this guide. I was really struggling with this tier to the point where I stopped playing for a couple months but you broke down how to play the tanks so well I've been able to get a couple first on my teams since watching this video. Thank you so much, I love this series
This is by far my favorite WT content, keep up the work! :D Looking forward to see what you do/say when it comes to the two “Super heavys” Maus/E-100 ;)
Note for the Porsche Tiger: These models (which include Ferdie) have the same forward and reverse speeds. A gimmicky play that some players used to do was driving the Tiger in reverse with the turret facing forward (like the Archer) so that when an enemy was encountered, the Engine would eat the shot and protect the crew.
Started playing 2 weeks ago. I was really bad but after watching you play and taking some of your tips I have become alot better. Thanks and keep up the videos
i can tell that you played all of these tanks, and i agree with all the recommendations and skipping of tanks. You really show off the advantages and disadvantages, also overlooked ones like reverse speed, gun bouncing etc wich can decide if you get a kill or survive.Wich ammo or guns are dangerous for your tanks, if mg fire is dangerous etc etc. Great video, More, longer, for every nation, please
21:12 sorry, I have no idea what you said because I was too busy dieing over the fact that a T -34 didn't notice a panzer panther weighing 50+ tonnes if I remember correctly tumbling down a cliff right behind him
Thank you for the video. I think you should have mentioned that Tiger II (H) is very susceptible to being one shot by anything piercing the turret from the front as there is an ammo rack that you cannot empty and so every shot that penetrates the turret almost guarantees death.
Oxy, being honest here, you are the best war thunder youtuber for me, bar none. The funniest thing is your calm voice along with the awesome kills is a killer combo. Please keep making awesome WT content. Also eagerly waiting for more such tank tree videos. Cheers from India.
Thanks a lot for all the amazing stuff! I started the game a few months ago after watching your beginner guide, and I'm really having a blast. I'm still derping around in arcade while learning the maps and weak spots of different tanks. Your videos + reddit have been my main sources of info about the game. I must say that many things are very different in arcade, especially the optimal lineups, as the respawn mechanics and BRs of many vehicles are not the same. But these videos will surely be even more useful on the day when I eventually feel brave enough to start playing realistic. So I really hope to see many more videos coming up in the future!
one of the biggest advantages of the ostwind ii is that it not only has 2 guns, but both are independently modeled. Which means if one has a breech destroyed or a barrel shot off, the other can keep shooting. You can even keep shooting while repairing. this is a life saver.
Der hat gesessen, feind zerstort! (my favorite phrase playing Germans, love how the guy says it) I appreciate your in depth review of the vehicles, it can make people think more logically about their choice of vehicle and better themselves at the game.
Love your channel and videos, as a very new player grinding away on Germans, thanks to your intros to them I have been able to grind faster and have more fun doing so. Also gotten some friends to play with me and since they are grinding Russians I sent them links to your channel and they love it as well. Sure I do not get insane kill results like you do but it has become less frustrating and more fun. Even if matchmaking Gods don't bless me every time
Your calm voice explaining is something rare and lovely to have in the war thunder gamers community. What's more, I actually liked the analysis of your video. Keep up the good fight my friend! :)
I love watching these videos. It feels like the cooking shows where you eat with the people on screen, buuuut you're just eating bread with ham while they eat something magnificient. Yeah......I still dont have my Tiger II, but getting closer
love the move of panther A falling down the cliff and knockout the tank， awesome！I had account of WT for years, first of playing planes, but stopped before the tank came out due to work and world of tanks. Now I came back to play tanks. love your guide, thank to you that I know what to play what to avoid as a new starter
Another down side of the Panther G is that the 0,3 BR increase makes the extra armor irrelevant. and the chin becomes as easy if not easier to pen then the maintlet of Panther A because it is facing better guns, which against the Panther A still had a slight chance to bounce on the upward angle of the maintet The chin on the G was specificaly designed to counter 75mm American and 76mm russian guns from shottrapping while at the same time being strong enough to take the full hit of such a shell on it,s own but facing guns having more then enough pen to go right through it makes it a huge weakspot. most of the time.
Yeah IMO Gaijin should have brought the Panther G down to 5.7 if anything. The Panther A should go back up to 6.0 and the Panther D could be argued to see a reduction to 5.3 because the slow turret is crippling.
Thank you for the fantastic video Oxy! I love all of your guides and they really help me play and enjoy the game. I don’t mind the length of the videos, in fact I really enjoy the long form and I completely understand that they take a lot of time to make. So please take your time and enjoy yourself. I’ll be anticipating and patiently waiting for the next episode of your fantastic guide! 😄
Thanks Oxy for all your hard work. I always look forward to your videos coming out. They may be a bit longer than some other contributors, but in this case, the longer the better; as they are always worth watching. love the presentation and hope you keep enjoying the game so we can get more. Got to admit that I'd have loved you to say "Avoid" the Jadpanther, after your talk up of it. even if it was just to keep it for yourself :)
10:14 my tip for the tiger II turret is to angle the turret ~20 degrees to the side. And also wiggle it a bit(but that isn’t really necessary in my opinion).
Another great video. Was wandering if you would consider doing a Intro guide to SIM as it dose not get covered much on you tube and i feel people are missing out, or have bad first experiences.
I've been to Bovington Tank Museum and been in the famous tiger room. You have a Tiger I, Tiger II and Ferdinand in all one room and your spine just tingles. You just can't believe how big they are. I walked up to the front of the Tiger II and gave the front plate a massive slap and the gorgeous girl just made the sound of slapping an backside. A few people looked at me like i was weird but I didn't care. As far as I was concerned, for 10 minutes...she was mine.
You could have mentioned that the Panther F, while technically having thicker turret armour, does not have the mantlet the A and G have, so at mid to close range enemies will have a far easier time shooting and penetrating your turret since there are no overlapping armour plates and no trolly angles. Honestly I think it's in that aspect by far the worst Panther for close range, aside from the Panther D. In that regard I'd even rather use the Panther G.
16:10 id say the worst thing for the tiger II H its the stupid ready ammo rack in the back of the turret, wich guarantees you to be oneshot fom anything that penetrates the turret I wonder why still keep that feature since it has done nothing but hurt the cat And yes i know that there is the argument that this is historical, except its only sort of shortly after the tiger II saw service, there was an incident where a single t34 managed to knock out 3 king tigers due to explosions in the ready ammo rack, from there on out tank crews were advised against using it.
@@ODST6262 nope, the tuuret is the last rack that gets emptied, if you take 23 shots on the tiger II p for example, your hull will be empty but your turret will be full
Another advantage of the Waffeln strictly in AB and mostly at medium range, is that if you're sideways and expose only your turret the enemy will really get confused, because your nametag is offsetted from your turret, and might end up shooting at thin air
Oxy, these videos are amazingly detailed. Just ordered the 1941 Merlin Engine diagram from your store. Should go nicely with the tank identification manual you sent me :)
@@catbear3294 no, dedicated aircraft won't be coming anytime soon. Here's what you need for Germany in props. 109G2 100K4 190D9 Ta 152H1(learn this bird before taking it out) The rest Cas centric aircraft are mentioned by oxy in his lineup part of the video and they're perfect.
Fun fact, the techtree and premium Jagdpanthers are slightly different. The premium is an early version with the thin rim around the gun's porthole, while the TT variant is a late model with the up-armored rim.
I've had to rewind and slo-mo that 1st kill down 3 times and still did not get visual on what you saw. I'm usually that dude in the Blackcat blasting through thinking no ones pushed up because of my fast AF style of play. Hope to never see you in battle sir ;) Great video and spot on insight as usual Oxy, Thank you. And this is coming from a US RTB head who never plays Axis.
One year later and German 6.7 is at a period of revival, since British sabots got moved to 7.3 and US line up got up tiered a bit as well. I started playing German 6.7 again recently and it’s super enjoyable.
43:21 I haven't played warthunder in a long time but from what I remember that tank is just a Tiger 2 H with a diesel engine instead of a gasoline engine common to most production tanks of Germany at the time.
I would say that if you get a 50% discount on the Tiger 2 pack and you havent grinded germany its the better option. It will give you the experience of the german tech tree and help you grind up to tier 5 while still being a good tank
The King Tiger (H) in a downtier is a fucking beast, i killed 12 enemies in Poland and never took damage, all the shells bounced, but in an uptier its shit, i prefer using the M41 Kpz or the Panther F
I've been away from the game for about a year so finding out Gaijin finally gave Germany a good light tank in the 6.0-7.0 area is nice. The US M41 is good bit of fun to use and I can always rely on it even in my 7.7 line-ups so seeing that Germany gets one too is pretty great.
FYI - the real Panther-II wouldn't have had a Panther Ausf.G turret. The existing prototype in the US only has a G turret because the US Army mated it with the hull for ordnance testing after capturing it. The real Panther-II turret designed by the Germans would have been entirely new and unlike earlier Panther turrets or the F schmalturm. There were several proposals, but the most likely used would have had 150mm front plate with 60mm sides and rear. The shape would have been squarish with a large flat front plate, slightly sloping sides (aprox 25 degrees) and rear. The gun mantlet would have been a new design, quite small, most closely resembling the "Topfblede" gun mantlet on the Jagdpanzer-IVs. It would have also retained the 7.5cm KwK L/70 and not the 8.8cm KwK L/71. There was a proposal to equip a schmalturm with an 8.8cm KwK L71 but that was a separate project unrelated to the Panther-II. The reason we have the image of a Panther-II with an Ausf.F schmalturm and an 8.8cm KwK L71 is entirely due to plastic model companies combining separate German projects into a single tank design for marketing purposes.
I still love my Command Tiger P. The reverse speed is really handy and people tend to see the turret and immediately assume it's an unangled tiger. so you very often get at least one free hit which gives you time to react. And sicne the hull armor protects the driver and transmission you can always back off quickly if they do pen the turret.
Just woke up and got a strange feeling that you had uploaded a new video. Looked it up and sure enough you had. Yes I am serious. I actually got a feeling that you had uploaded this part now. That's how good these videoa are.
The Tiger II H Sla.16 was the first premium tank I bought and to be honest, I think it's the most fun one I have, probably because I just love playing the Tiger IIs. From a premium standpoint it's also one of the most "fair" ones as it's just a Tiger II with an extra MG, almost negligible extra turret protection and that accelerates slightly faster.
little history knowledge the panther 2 removed was a different project for the panther, the panther 2 we have in the game is from the other panther project witch si the panther 88 witch never left the drawing board, the actual panther 2 witch did have 2 prototypes here basically up armored panther Gs and the turret was also slightly smaller and the side angels where coming in some mroe so the turret was smaller overall the flak panzer 341 only the turret was wooden
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panther A doing a flip down the cliff has to be the best thing ive seen from wt in a long while
Yes. First time in WT I have seen a dead crew get a kill.
@@ODST6262 He had gunner & driver still alive...
@@_antwonTT6 Remarkably observant gunner after that tumble
@@ODST6262 If that was in a tank destroyer it would have been over the first hit half way down. Ask me how I know 😅
@@_antwonTT6 Love WT as diving off a cliff to land on an opposing AFV below appears to be an expected tactic. Don't play WT anymore. Good to know the fall did injure some crew. IMHO your pointing out 90+ AFV currently can kill a King Tiger, usually from the front, in the game much less how many can easily take out a Panther confirms my opinion the Ranking is way off. When your Panther D made in 1943 with only Pak 39 shells runs into a US tank built in 1948 using 1948 HEAT and APCR or a post war French vehicle with the French 75mm designed around the German Panther's gun but with post-war ammunition or a T54 designed to be frontally immune to the 88L71 gun there is something wrong. Must be the history major in me. Thanks for answering my comments, too. Good show.
Interesting thing about the King Tigers- the P and H's turrets weren't designed by Porsche and Henschel, respectively. Krupp manufactured both the pre-production and production variants. The 'Porsche' turret was meant to be mounted on Porsche hulls, but as no Porsche designs were successfully approved, Krupp gave the curved turrets to Henschel to use on their hull design that was approved for production, and those were used until they ran out and switched to the flatter design.
They realized the shot trap wasn't doing any favors to them, so they redesigned the turret. The first 50 king tigers had that turret, while every other ones after had the "Henschel" variant.
Yup. Meant to mention that instead of simplifying the post but I didn't want it being too long-winded. If memory serves, it was also in the interest of simplifying the manufacturing process owing to the bulge created by the commander's cupola on the 'Porsche' turret making things complicated, which also increased the amount of available ready rack stowage as a side effect of the redesign. @Ernestas Jarmak
It's also interesting people call it pre-production, although 50 (out of 500),so 10% had this turret. I prefer calling it 'early production'. And it was also quite hard to produce, the later turret was much simpler. Considering bombing raids on german factories, this was also important factor
Kruppstahl
Another sad example of a beautiful design, but doesn't work in combat. Another example is the Panther's turrets. It's a sexy design, but again it also suffered a shot trap. If the war went kept going into '46 we would have been seeing more of the "pig nosed" Panthers.
21:14 rommels best taktic
Yeah that would totally work, no doubts.
lol
The man was truly a genius
Ahh yes the infamous panther pounce.
Unexpected, undetected
Time-Schtamps
0:41 - Waffenträger
5:12 - leKPz M41
9:22 - Tiger II (P)
12:45 - Tiger II (H)
18:14 - Panther A
21:27 - Panther G
24:54 - Panther F
27:24 - Ostwind II
28:42 - Jagdpanther
32:15 - Ferdinand
36:06 - Panther II
38:05 - Flakpanzer 341
38:57 - Pz Bef Wg VI P
42:29 - Bfw.Jagdpanther
43:17 - Tiger II (H) Sla.16
45:05 - Ru 251
48:48 - CAS Recommendations
50:06 - Ground Forces Keybinds
51:55 - Lineups
Damn that was fast
I am speed
@@foo-foocuddlypoops5694 you're also the first comment
The man The myth the LEGEND
He's not the hero Gotham wanted but he's the hero Gotham deserves
21:23
T-34/85: “lol we are decimating them, we have this in the bag!”
M-18 Hellcat: “hell yeah, they just keep getting out of their spawn and greeted by a shot in their side!”
Panther A: “GUTEN TAG!!!”
Oxy talking about how bad a tank is while he gets insane kills with it in the background... I love it
That's what hapens when you play to the strenghts of the tank
@@TheFranssiBrother Also, you play multiple matches and discard the ones that were trash :P
James V. D. Bosch STFU nub
He never actualy says that a tank is bad.
He always just says that some tanks are worse then others. Every german tank is extremely powerfull and non of them suffer.
@@jakobc.2558 That's a nice fantasy realm you got there. Next you're gonna tell me the m18 is balanced lmao.
0:43 Waffenträger 5.7
5:15 leKPz M41 AB/SB 6.7 RB 6.3
9:26 Tiger II (P) AB/RB 6.3 SB 6.7
12:48 Tiger II (H) 6.7
18:18 Panther A 5.7
21:30 Panther G 6.0
24:57 Panther F AB/RB 6.0 SB 6.7
27:27 Ostwind II 5.7
28:45 Jagdpanther AB/RB 6.3 SB 6.7
32:17 Ferdinand AB 7.0 RB 6.3 SB 6.7
Removed:
36:11 Panther II AB 7.0 RB/SB 6.7
38:09 Flakpanzer 341 6.7
Premiums:
39:02 Pz.bef.Wg.VI P 5.7
43:21 Tiger II (H) Sla. 16 6.7
45:08 Ru 251 6.7
42:32 Bef. Jagtpanther AB/RB 6.3 SB 6.7
Fighters/CAS:
48:56 Me 262 A-1/U4 AB 6.3 RB/SB 6.7
49:38 Ar 234 B-2 AB 6.3 RB/SB 6.7
50:08 Keybinds
51:58 Lineups
Rothec m41 is 6.3
@@biko9824 I am sorry to inform you, either you or the wiki are wrong.
wiki.warthunder.com/LeKPz_M41
Just looked in the game: The wiki is indeed wrong, it is 6.3 in RB and 6.7 in AB and SB but the wiki put's it a 6.7 in all gamemodes. Thank you for pointing that out.
Rothec yep, saw that change happen a couple weeks ago I believe. If ru251 is 6.7, the m41 should be lower since it’s like an ru but slightly worse in most aspects.
nice
Hey everyone, I hope you enjoy the video! Sorry if this one is a bit quiet, RUclips has a habit of automatically adjusting the levels so everything comes out slightly quieter, although I'll hopefully be getting a new mic soon which should stop it happening, cheers! :-)
Its ok We still love you oxy
Hey when you start talking about the next tank with the clip and name can you put the BR next to it so I know where in the game It is?
You didn't mention that the panther 2 has nightvision. I don't remember if the Panther F has nightvision but in my opinion its an advantage the Panther 2 has that should be mentioned :)
Need to adjust the Bass a little down :D
Good stuff Oxy, I know it was removed but was still surprised you didn't cover the 105 KwK Tiger II.
21:14 German ace pulls a sneaky
Hey oxy, I know phly dominates the "meme" style of war thunder, which he is great at, but one thing he lacks is the informative style. I think that style suits you. You should start a series on tactics, war thunder news and tank/plane reviews. Quickybaby does this for WoT while jingles does the meme. There is a good balance over there for that. I hope you do more regular videos, cause your content is great
Perhaps for Air, Adam514 is a good example on how to play planes in wt
Defyn and adam514 are both really good for infortmation on air stuff. There isnt much out there for naval/tanks from what I understand.
@@Revelationsvidya try howtoplay1337 or something like that, he has a heavy accent, but is amazing to know if a tank is worth your time
It is great content, I though he had like a 100k subs before lol
DollaPlays dominate the meme style content smh. Phly is just somewhere in the middle
at 26:55 dude in the chat is asking Oxy about the German ground forces tier 4. Congrats dude you're in it.
Oxy your voice is so soothing I literally listen to you talking about pixel tanks for hours.
I was watching this and nodding off not because the video is boring but his voice is so relaxing lol
21:25 the t-34 must have been like “WHERE THE HELL DID THAT PANTHER COME FROM?!”
* teleport behind you *
Nothing personal, kid.
@@chloe_gospinny go on? Unless that was your remark
@@TackleTheDog It's a quote
That was the most beautiful kill I've ever seen
Don't be too sorry for being late with this, you've used a lot of time in your videos and we can always appreciate the quality over speed.
Me: better go to bed, its too late already.
Oxy: German ground forces tier IV - review and analysis (50 minutes long)
Me: well, my plan went to shit quickly.
21:13 - I'm gonna do what's called a "pro gamer move"...
21:14
AND HIS NAME IS JOHN CEEENAA!
more like
WATCH OUT WATCH OUT!
RKO OUT OF NOWHERE!
21:15 that maneuver though! 😂 They had no idea where you came from. No risk no reward! Lmao
The IS/JS series in reverse has a confusion, fear and stupidity meaning 3/5 enemy’s will fail to shot and 2/5 will fail to kill any crew but 0.0000000000001% players will do something to the tank
Unless I'm mistaken Gaijin said that the only tank they would bring back in events is the Maus, and it will be available as a limited time researchable vehicle, like the La-174.
Maybe Gaijin is also gonna put it into the marketplace and earn more money.
Real internet troll if it’s a special limited time researchable vehicle it won’t be a coupon
@@shugezhang4974 nope. They said maus won't be on the market or a coupon form
Yep, the other three are not coming back.
IM STILL MAD
21:12 getting Girls und Panzers flashbacks...
21:14 ninja panther mode activated
I'm so happy I grinded my ass off to get the 4 removed vehicles, those being the panther 2, tiger 105, coelian 341 and ofc, the maus
Yeah, the rumors of them being removed years ago are what got me into the German tree.
I got into warthunder to late In the game kills me to know I'll never have the 10.5 tiger the panther II the maus or the e100
@@ihightreasoni you can buy the E100 but sadly tiger 105, Panther 2 and coelian won't ever come back to the game in any way shape or form. What will come back is the maus and that's about it
@@asiftalpur3758 well that gives me some comfort because I love those two and I'd settle for the e100 alone I suppose how does one go about buying it i have not seen it anywhere?
@@ihightreasoni oh don't even bother. There's only 1 E100 for sale and last I checked, the seller is willing to sell it to you for the small amount of 1100GJN coins.
Side note: 1GJN coin= $1
Yeah, $1100 for E100.
You can check its current price at war thunder market.
21:12 EXPECT THE UNEXPECTABLE!
that 34-85 didn't prepare for unforeseen consequences
Thank you for this guide. I was really struggling with this tier to the point where I stopped playing for a couple months but you broke down how to play the tanks so well I've been able to get a couple first on my teams since watching this video. Thank you so much, I love this series
1 dislike already after an hour......
Oxy's haters, I have a question: Why????? Just why????
Literally the best tutorial you can find out there
But german Tank bias he shittalks reeeeeee
Jk...
Came over why Phly recommended your tech tree reviews and these videos have been awesome thanks for doing these
26:55 well that guy in the chat finally got what he wanted! :)
This is by far my favorite WT content, keep up the work! :D
Looking forward to see what you do/say when it comes to the two “Super heavys” Maus/E-100 ;)
Note for the Porsche Tiger: These models (which include Ferdie) have the same forward and reverse speeds. A gimmicky play that some players used to do was driving the Tiger in reverse with the turret facing forward (like the Archer) so that when an enemy was encountered, the Engine would eat the shot and protect the crew.
Started playing 2 weeks ago. I was really bad but after watching you play and taking some of your tips I have become alot better. Thanks and keep up the videos
i can tell that you played all of these tanks, and i agree with all the recommendations and skipping of tanks. You really show off the advantages and disadvantages, also overlooked ones like reverse speed, gun bouncing etc wich can decide if you get a kill or survive.Wich ammo or guns are dangerous for your tanks, if mg fire is dangerous etc etc. Great video, More, longer, for every nation, please
One thing I love about the leKpz M41 is that the ballistics are so straight, that even if you forget to set ranges in the scope, you're gonna hit.
21:12 sorry, I have no idea what you said because I was too busy dieing over the fact that a T -34 didn't notice a panzer panther weighing 50+ tonnes if I remember correctly tumbling down a cliff right behind him
Yes! Been bing watching your ground forces reviews! can't wait for more
I like how some guy at 26:54 is waiting for this video to come out, I wonder if he saw himself say that in game...
Thank you for the video.
I think you should have mentioned that Tiger II (H) is very susceptible to being one shot by anything piercing the turret from the front as there is an ammo rack that you cannot empty and so every shot that penetrates the turret almost guarantees death.
Oxy, being honest here, you are the best war thunder youtuber for me, bar none.
The funniest thing is your calm voice along with the awesome kills is a killer combo. Please keep making awesome WT content. Also eagerly waiting for more such tank tree videos. Cheers from India.
Thanks a lot for all the amazing stuff! I started the game a few months ago after watching your beginner guide, and I'm really having a blast. I'm still derping around in arcade while learning the maps and weak spots of different tanks. Your videos + reddit have been my main sources of info about the game. I must say that many things are very different in arcade, especially the optimal lineups, as the respawn mechanics and BRs of many vehicles are not the same. But these videos will surely be even more useful on the day when I eventually feel brave enough to start playing realistic. So I really hope to see many more videos coming up in the future!
one of the biggest advantages of the ostwind ii is that it not only has 2 guns, but both are independently modeled. Which means if one has a breech destroyed or a barrel shot off, the other can keep shooting. You can even keep shooting while repairing. this is a life saver.
Der hat gesessen, feind zerstort!
(my favorite phrase playing Germans, love how the guy says it)
I appreciate your in depth review of the vehicles, it can make people think more logically about their choice of vehicle and better themselves at the game.
I love these kind of videos. Keep up the great content Oxy!
I don't know how he can spot a couple of pixels and get the most accurate shot in only 2 seconds
Love your channel and videos, as a very new player grinding away on Germans, thanks to your intros to them I have been able to grind faster and have more fun doing so. Also gotten some friends to play with me and since they are grinding Russians I sent them links to your channel and they love it as well. Sure I do not get insane kill results like you do but it has become less frustrating and more fun. Even if matchmaking Gods don't bless me every time
Your calm voice explaining is something rare and lovely to have in the war thunder gamers community. What's more, I actually liked the analysis of your video. Keep up the good fight my friend! :)
I love watching these videos. It feels like the cooking shows where you eat with the people on screen, buuuut you're just eating bread with ham while they eat something magnificient. Yeah......I still dont have my Tiger II, but getting closer
love the move of panther A falling down the cliff and knockout the tank， awesome！I had account of WT for years, first of playing planes, but stopped before the tank came out due to work and world of tanks. Now I came back to play tanks. love your guide, thank to you that I know what to play what to avoid as a new starter
Another down side of the Panther G is that the 0,3 BR increase makes the extra armor irrelevant. and the chin becomes as easy if not easier to pen then the maintlet of Panther A because it is facing better guns, which against the Panther A still had a slight chance to bounce on the upward angle of the maintet
The chin on the G was specificaly designed to counter 75mm American and 76mm russian guns from shottrapping while at the same time being strong enough to take the full hit of
such a shell on it,s own but facing guns having more then enough pen to go right through it makes it a huge weakspot. most of the time.
Yeah IMO Gaijin should have brought the Panther G down to 5.7 if anything. The Panther A should go back up to 6.0 and the Panther D could be argued to see a reduction to 5.3 because the slow turret is crippling.
Thank you for the fantastic video Oxy! I love all of your guides and they really help me play and enjoy the game. I don’t mind the length of the videos, in fact I really enjoy the long form and I completely understand that they take a lot of time to make. So please take your time and enjoy yourself. I’ll be anticipating and patiently waiting for the next episode of your fantastic guide! 😄
amazing content
Yes
Thanks Oxy for all your hard work. I always look forward to your videos coming out. They may be a bit longer than some other contributors, but in this case, the longer the better; as they are always worth watching. love the presentation and hope you keep enjoying the game so we can get more.
Got to admit that I'd have loved you to say "Avoid" the Jadpanther, after your talk up of it. even if it was just to keep it for yourself :)
Thanks for all your hard work putting out these vids. I always enjoy them.
10:14 my tip for the tiger II turret is to angle the turret ~20 degrees to the side. And also wiggle it a bit(but that isn’t really necessary in my opinion).
finally, great work. now i know how to progress into higher brs with german forces. keep it coming!
9:27 misconception, the “P” doesn’t stand for Porsche, Porsche contributed the engine, both turret designs were made by Krupp
A thing that might have been worth mentioning on the Ferdinand is that it has an insane repair cost. Still very nice review!
Huh, I somehow missed the fact that the German Bulldog gets HEATFS - thanks for the heads up, that definitely makes it a more attractive tank.
Another great video. Was wandering if you would consider doing a Intro guide to SIM as it dose not get covered much on you tube and i feel people are missing out, or have bad first experiences.
Please do this! We need a larger sim player base
Ferdinand cons: repair cost
Same for panther a now 😖😖 5.5k when spaded and even more fo the F
This is a very peaceful channel that discusses War Thunder that I like.
21:13 that panthers suspension must be dead trying to carry the commanders balls
I'm always look forward to this series, and I don't mind waiting. Also I hope the spotlight gets to the US line sooner.
I love your work, keep it up and remember that we are here for you :)
Great quality again - thank you Oxy!
I've been to Bovington Tank Museum and been in the famous tiger room. You have a Tiger I, Tiger II and Ferdinand in all one room and your spine just tingles. You just can't believe how big they are. I walked up to the front of the Tiger II and gave the front plate a massive slap and the gorgeous girl just made the sound of slapping an backside. A few people looked at me like i was weird but I didn't care. As far as I was concerned, for 10 minutes...she was mine.
You could have mentioned that the Panther F, while technically having thicker turret armour, does not have the mantlet the A and G have, so at mid to close range enemies will have a far easier time shooting and penetrating your turret since there are no overlapping armour plates and no trolly angles. Honestly I think it's in that aspect by far the worst Panther for close range, aside from the Panther D. In that regard I'd even rather use the Panther G.
I like the A the most, it has the highest HP/ton ratio and turret rotation speed while being at a lower BR
16:10 id say the worst thing for the tiger II H its the stupid ready ammo rack in the back of the turret, wich guarantees you to be oneshot fom anything that penetrates the turret
I wonder why still keep that feature since it has done nothing but hurt the cat
And yes i know that there is the argument that this is historical, except its only sort of shortly after the tiger II saw service, there was an incident where a single t34 managed to knock out 3 king tigers due to explosions in the ready ammo rack, from there on out tank crews were advised against using it.
Reduce your ammo supply to empty the turret rack, which is the first one the ammo is removed from.
@@ODST6262 nope, the tuuret is the last rack that gets emptied, if you take 23 shots on the tiger II p for example, your hull will be empty but your turret will be full
Great to see an Oxy vid on some of my favorite tanks
Best channel out there this guy kills it. No bollshit just content!!
Another advantage of the Waffeln strictly in AB and mostly at medium range, is that if you're sideways and expose only your turret the enemy will really get confused, because your nametag is offsetted from your turret, and might end up shooting at thin air
the Panther A assassination had me on the floor laughing
Oxy, these videos are amazingly detailed. Just ordered the 1941 Merlin Engine diagram from your store. Should go nicely with the tank identification manual you sent me :)
"-so I'm not trying to imply the G should be there as well-"
And 11 months later, The Snail bellowed:
*LET IT BE SO*
FYI, the Tiger II (P) turret wasn't made by Porche. That's a common misconception. It's a Krupp turret.
*JoJo Girono theme plays*
King Tiger: *Comes in the distance*
Enemy: *panicking*
ohhh thank you so much oxy, I just got started on tier 4!
(edit) think you can make a review for tier 4 german aircraft??
Aircraft will come after tanks i think
@@catbear3294 no, dedicated aircraft won't be coming anytime soon.
Here's what you need for Germany in props.
109G2
100K4
190D9
Ta 152H1(learn this bird before taking it out)
The rest Cas centric aircraft are mentioned by oxy in his lineup part of the video and they're perfect.
Fun fact, the techtree and premium Jagdpanthers are slightly different.
The premium is an early version with the thin rim around the gun's porthole, while the TT variant is a late model with the up-armored rim.
I've had to rewind and slo-mo that 1st kill down 3 times and still did not get visual on what you saw. I'm usually that dude in the Blackcat blasting through thinking no ones pushed up because of my fast AF style of play. Hope to never see you in battle sir ;)
Great video and spot on insight as usual Oxy, Thank you. And this is coming from a US RTB head who never plays Axis.
One year later and German 6.7 is at a period of revival, since British sabots got moved to 7.3 and US line up got up tiered a bit as well. I started playing German 6.7 again recently and it’s super enjoyable.
I just got the Panzer 4/70 and man I could not have made a greater a decision, this thing is insane.
I have long awaited this.
43:21 I haven't played warthunder in a long time but from what I remember that tank is just a Tiger 2 H with a diesel engine instead of a gasoline engine common to most production tanks of Germany at the time.
I would say that if you get a 50% discount on the Tiger 2 pack and you havent grinded germany its the better option.
It will give you the experience of the german tech tree and help you grind up to tier 5 while still being a good tank
The King Tiger (H) in a downtier is a fucking beast, i killed 12 enemies in Poland and never took damage, all the shells bounced, but in an uptier its shit, i prefer using the M41 Kpz or the Panther F
I've been away from the game for about a year so finding out Gaijin finally gave Germany a good light tank in the 6.0-7.0 area is nice. The US M41 is good bit of fun to use and I can always rely on it even in my 7.7 line-ups so seeing that Germany gets one too is pretty great.
FYI - the real Panther-II wouldn't have had a Panther Ausf.G turret. The existing prototype in the US only has a G turret because the US Army mated it with the hull for ordnance testing after capturing it. The real Panther-II turret designed by the Germans would have been entirely new and unlike earlier Panther turrets or the F schmalturm. There were several proposals, but the most likely used would have had 150mm front plate with 60mm sides and rear. The shape would have been squarish with a large flat front plate, slightly sloping sides (aprox 25 degrees) and rear. The gun mantlet would have been a new design, quite small, most closely resembling the "Topfblede" gun mantlet on the Jagdpanzer-IVs. It would have also retained the 7.5cm KwK L/70 and not the 8.8cm KwK L/71. There was a proposal to equip a schmalturm with an 8.8cm KwK L71 but that was a separate project unrelated to the Panther-II. The reason we have the image of a Panther-II with an Ausf.F schmalturm and an 8.8cm KwK L71 is entirely due to plastic model companies combining separate German projects into a single tank design for marketing purposes.
I still love my Command Tiger P. The reverse speed is really handy and people tend to see the turret and immediately assume it's an unangled tiger. so you very often get at least one free hit which gives you time to react. And sicne the hull armor protects the driver and transmission you can always back off quickly if they do pen the turret.
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I absolutely love your informative war thunder videos❤❤❤👌
Very useful video, fills an important gap, great job.
Just woke up and got a strange feeling that you had uploaded a new video. Looked it up and sure enough you had.
Yes I am serious. I actually got a feeling that you had uploaded this part now.
That's how good these videoa are.
I really love your videos.
Can you maybe make map analysis videos? These will really help intermediate players a lot.
The Tiger II H Sla.16 was the first premium tank I bought and to be honest, I think it's the most fun one I have, probably because I just love playing the Tiger IIs. From a premium standpoint it's also one of the most "fair" ones as it's just a Tiger II with an extra MG, almost negligible extra turret protection and that accelerates slightly faster.
31:05 You're were about to Laugh XD
I'm honestly surprised that Jagdpanter received such a high praise, in my eyes it was always a bit "meh".
I literally got it yesterday, and it has been absolutely excellent so far. Two aces in about five matches, all uptiers. Good periscopic sight too.
You have to be insane to call Jagdpanther “meh”.
It’s way better than any WW2 thing it faces at 6.0-6.3.
I enjoy your vids . They are very informative. I think Phly has become the Godfather of WT . He makes offers we can't refuse, and he has a cat lol.
To add onto his list, the 38cm Sturmmorser, aka the SturmTiger was available in the 10 Anniversary event.
I love these videos they hold so much information
Oxygen Thief = Surprisingly ironic name. You are a wealth of knowledge
little history knowledge the panther 2 removed was a different project for the panther, the panther 2 we have in the game is from the other panther project witch si the panther 88 witch never left the drawing board, the actual panther 2 witch did have 2 prototypes here basically up armored panther Gs and the turret was also slightly smaller and the side angels where coming in some mroe so the turret was smaller overall
the flak panzer 341 only the turret was wooden
I remember back in the day the Tiger II H was stupidly strong at its tier, knife fighting with IS-2s was child’s play