Funny thing is that Wolverine comes off as a jerk to Spider-Man, but Logan actually likes him as a friend. Its the reason Logan that on his birthday, Logan invited Spider-man to a bar.
I wouldn’t say Spidey was nervous, but understanding. As this comic highlighted most of the Avengers are afraid of Logan, but not Peter. Part of that reason is because Logan has never won a fight he’s been in with Peter, the other reason is Peter is one of the few people who see Logan as more than just an animal or a weapon. Peter knows there is more to Logan than that and that he can be better if he wants.
Might it be because Logan knows that Spider-Man can knock him out with one punch almost as hard and bad as Hulk? Spider-Man is crazy strong in his own right. Not on Hulk's level, but the wall crawler does have crazy strength and power in his own right, mind you. I'm not taking ANYTHING away from the Green Behemoth.
@@RedPyramid-lf4sbYeah , Spiderman (1994) proves that they just hug each-other while Spiderman keeps carrying upwards & throwing him back & fourth "Spiderman literally overpowered Wolverine in a ridiculous amount of tosses w/ Spiderman’s self defense webs & strength" 😂
@@cristhianramirez6939what he never said he is stronger than hulk he said he can knock him out like hulk wich means he is stronge but not as strong as hulk
@@bavanii.8334Unfortunately, they tend to fall for the same trick his enemies do. Spidey putting on this relentless assault of quips and such, it’s his way of staying calm, keeping himself in the fight or social situations and not spiraling. They just see the jester again, and not the guy who easily subdues 6 powerful villains in their own right in a 1v6 situation, the hero that is very serious about his job, but puts on that mask of silly goofy spider man as to make him more approachable to everyone (not that he can’t be a goofball, but he does consider taking care of his city and the civilians a very serious thing.)
Those fingers, the line weight, the jaw lines from hell.. That can only be Joe mad art. My roommate was obsessed with this artist. And his passion for his work made me equally as obsessed.
I feel this is a bit out of character for Spiderman, in another comic he confronts Daredevil and others to stop them with their plans to kill Fisk, but here Wolverines just " ok I'm off to go murder a guy, be back for tea " and Spidermans just fine with it, like " sure, sure, you do you "
@swordchannelfires No it wasn't. What you are talking about is during Daredevil's 2019 run where Daredevil accidentally kills someone when he hit them too hard. Spiderman told Daredevil that he needs to give up being a hero or he would MAKE Daredevil hang it up.
Wasn’t it also because Daredevil was setting a dangerous precedent for the other NYC heroes legally making it harder for them to be heroes? Wolverine ain’t a local
@@rorschac009oo8In all fairness something pretty similar does happen in early Ultimate Spider-Man. Also I’m pretty sure in the Zdarsky run it was moreso that Daredevil was going to fuck things up for all the other heroes
Swinging out the window looks really cool, but it's terribly inefficient for anyone other than spider-man. That rope needs to be approximately 400 feet long, and sturdy enough to support Logan, who is pushing 300 lbs. That's a LOT of rope. High quality climbing rope. You know, the elevator in that mansion works, right? Be on the ground floor in minutes. If you are really pressed for time, they have jet packs and aircraft. Paragliding is a thing, too. And do none of their enemies have eyes? Or lookouts? "Oh, hey, Bob, we just saw Elektra - hot half naked chick - come out of (essentially) "The heroes' home base" and headed your way. Don't be there when she arrives.". Or, like, are they patiently waiting for her to show up every time? Does she call ahead? Are their crimes catered events? The cheese and crackers show up at 2pm, but eat fast, Elektra's here at 3? So many questions.
Pretty sure Logan's over 300 lbs, adamantium is a very heavy metal, like lead or gold. And if Logan were really in a hurry, he wouldn't need the rope, he could just jump out the window, it's not like his bones are going break on impact with the ground.
@@magicalminty6203 I don't recall the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that canonically that adamantium skeleton has pushed Logan's weight beyond 500 pounds. I like to think that it's only added to his power in a fight because every swing has that much more weight behind it.
WHY is Wolverine so effing tall in this? If he was really hunched over in front of Spider-Woman, his head would probably be just below her nipples. The picture of him in front of the refrigerator, in the beginning was actually an accurate depiction of his height.
@@TheDoomsdayzoner I said "Spider-Woman." Even Spider-Woman is taller than Wolverine, and look how much he's hunched over, and still taller than her. 0:16
@@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain Yeah, that really bugged me, too. It really bothers me how they try to make every tough guy over six feet tall and made of pure muscle.
@@brandonsnyder9950 Well, I don't mind a superhero being built like a superhero, but Wolverine is called "Wolverine" because he's a small vicious animal of a man with long claws, just like the animal. It's kind of a part of his charm, just like being a Canadian outdoors man.
Yeah…that’s just a depiction thing. Wolverine is pretty short. Artists and writers are given a lot of creative freedom. Ie. Storm is supposed to be like 5 foot 10 or taller. Yet very few depictions of her with wolverine show this. Even when next to “slim” Summers. There is one drawing from the issues leading to Onslaught where he threatens Juggernaut in a bar. Best drawn accurate relative depiction of his height. He is literally standing on the bar to put his claws at the head and throat of Juggernaut.
We desperately need an else world story where an alternate Spider-Man who takes no shit just beats the respect into some of these other heroes. I swear homie will pull off some incredible shit like single handedly dismantling the x men or stopping the hulk mid rampage and as soon as he's done saving everyones ass they immediately forget who he is because *he lets them*
@@Gunther-mt2bk allow me to clarify. I meant an else world Spider-Man going to earth 616 and showing them why they should put some respect on his name. Although there are so many comic issues out there I feel like there's a chance it's already happened. Any ones your referring to specifically?
Spidey can get SO serious that one time he broke into a prison where Kingpin was and proceeded to BEAT THE SHIT out of him for shooting Aunt May. Then he threatened the Kingpin (while surrounded by the inmates he helped put in there) and said "I could do this whenever I want and they will tell everyone what happened."
You can't threaten Spider Man (personally). He cares about other people. He might pretend to be afraid as part of a bit, he's not afraid. He's fought gods, monsters, mutants, and been killed by magic. He can't be threatened. Pruno
Other than Cap. Logan really respects Spider-Man. He never backs down. Always sticks to his morales and knows deep down inside. Spider-Man can clean his clock. How can he not respect that?
the reality is.... Spiderman could EASILY rip Wolverine in half like a sheet of paper. Spiderman is one of the strongest superheroes out there, next to the Hulk and Superman. Way stronger then Capt America. Im talking in pure physical strength and ability to take a hit. yes wolverine could KILL spiderman with a very lucky blow or a sucker punch... and spiderman technically couldn't kill wolverine because of his regeneration.... Spiderman could simply hold him without issue and he would be unable to do anything... not even move... that's how much stronger Spiderman is.. it would be like holding a large stuffed animal to him.
Honestly yeah, Spidey could definitely do damage to Logan (We even see this in Web of Shadows, albeit it takes a stupidly long time and effort on Spidey's end), but then it's always been a weird thing about how durable Logan's joints seem to be since one would figure his joints would not be having any kind of easy time handling his Adamantium (I assume it's partially something to do with that whole time with Apocalypse where he basically initially perfected Wolverine's evolution but didn't go all the way in on it, but then to wish for comics to be consistent about power levels is like asking a DC comics writer to avoid using Infinity feats) One would figure Magneto could just snap his fingers and Logan's joints are ripped in half, yet that seems to often not be the case, yet he's also had his head removed before, like by Beast, who Spider-Man definitely should be above in terms of strength.
Stop this made up stuff, it takes 2 seconds to google that in Earth 616 he cannot, not even Hulk could at full rage. He can beat Wolverine via webs and speed but he is not doing any detrimental damage unhealable, please read about True Adamantium and Wolverine in Earth 616. In the universes where adamantium has been broken by THE HULK, adamantium is weak like steel not like 616 earth where not even Thor could harm it via full force mjolnir..
@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCityNone of this is accurate in Earth 616.. Magneto only and he manipulates on a monecular level which means he moved the adamantium not destroyed it.
"Doesn't want to and this never tried" is not the same as "Could never". Logan's adamantium does NOT cover his joints. If it did he couldn't move anywhere near as flexibly, if at all. His joints are this a structural weakpoint by necessity and someone strong enough can and HAS ripped him limb from limb.
@@galaxycamerata This is true since the Wendigo did it in the 616 variant (And that would be the only instance that mattered since the 1610 Wolverine's Adamantium is much less durable) It does make me wonder about the strength required for it since one would at least figure that if a mutant like Nitro was able to let off his blast point-blank at Logan before Logan recognized the whole "Safe zone" instant when Nitro leveled a city, and apparently his joints held out so his skeleton could make that infamous pose, is Spider-Man punching at that kind of strength without a Symbiote? Not saying Spidey loses to Logan, Spider-Man has one of the highest win ratios on the Canucklehead time and again
I can already tell this got to be the Tom Holland Spider-Man because he's way too dorky in Spider-Man can be serious especially when he got that venom suit on but that's the Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
mad to think spiderman could punch wolverine through a building if he tried to hurt him however unlike everyone else he sees logan as a person not a weapon or some "thing" u throw at the enemy. He knows theres a reason logan is how he is and wants to be there enough to make sure he keeps his humanity
No……it’s a “New Avengers” mid 2000 thing. Around the Luke Cage joining then leading time frame. Before him the mutants were Beast and the pre retcon because of the horrible Fox deal Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
Why is Marvel hiring idiot writers and artists who know nothing about the characters? Wolverine's 5'3 is *NOT* taller than Peter's 5'9/5'10. This is basic knowledge of the characters
It is when Wolverine is standing up straight but Peter is hunching over or crouching his legs as he clearly is and is thus seven to eight inches shorter than usual. Somebody doesn't seem to understand that body posture and pose can affect relative apparant height. It actually seems to me that Peter is bringing himself down to equal eye level with Logan as a show of his sincerity. He is trying to talk to Logan as an equal, not talk down to him, and the fact he is hunching down to be at that equal eye level visually symbolizes that. It is pretty fantastic detail work, actually.
@@GuukanKitsunesomebody didn't seem to noticed the 1:53 mark. Spider-Man standing straight holding a six pack while Logan is slouched over dang near matching Peter height
@Visemoon Perspective. Both times Logan is closer to the 'camera' and thus looks BIGGER. Another basic imagery concept you don't seem to get. Although in fairness it is a little sloppily done so it's understandable not to pick up on it. As for 3:48. Logan's eyes are level with Peter's mouth. Accurately. Because Peter is standing straight while Logan is barely hunched at all and rising onto his toes like he does whenever he does his classic 'threatening ' posture (the pose he does when he is threatening to unsheathe his claws. It is a pose he has done countless times, every time he wants to look intimidating for any reason.) Again, fully accurate to their relative size as canon.
@@GuukanKitsune I see... I'm clearly talking with someone who is legally blind or doesn't have a basic imagery concept of art. 3:48. Wolverine is clearly NOT closer to our view after he hands Peter the six-pack. They are side by side with Peter standing straight while Logan is slouched over. Get a ruler 📏. Measure from Logan's shoulder to Peter. You clearly see his shoulder is even with Peter's chin. The artist messed up. There's no debating it 3:48. *"Logan's eyes are even with Peter's mouth?"* This just proves you don't have basics imagery concept. Use that same ruler. You'll see Logan's NOSE is level with Peter's mouth. Use that same ruler, Logan's mouth is even with Peter's chin. Use the same ruler, Logan's eyes are just under Peter's nose (pointy part in the middle of Peter's face). There's no debating it. Hate to break it to you, but the evidence clearly says you're wrong *"Logan standing on his toes?"* Really, man?! Now, you gotta make up a fraudulent claim? Something that can't be seen on the panel? Don't do that. Stick to the facts, evidence, and proof. All of which says you're wrong, and the artist messed up.
no you cant be death serious that'z the kinda thing logan try'z to not do as much as he can but he'z a spirit of pain rage and sometime'z a killer of people weather it'z for the commen good or a hipacrit like way but when death come'z he tries so hard to be a good guy about it and not do what we all think need'z to be done to some of the monster'z some are just that a monster they care very little who die'z and who live'z logan tries to be civil and sometime'z it hunt'z him back......
He can be serious, but is he rip your own face off to get a healed in mask off and just regrow your face without making a noise serious? Spider man turns around after Wolverine leaves and catches sight of what wolverine did in 2 mins......"maybe I'm not that serious."
Though I am sensitive to characters changing/ developing with time, I hate hate hate what the Avengers and Tom Holland depiction has done to Spidey... THIS aint Spidey. They've just nerfed him and made him a silly character not to be taken seriously.
And even so, Spiderman is literally one of the characters with more versions and depictions. In a few the outright refuses to do groups at all, and in other he is dying to do groups.. F. Ex. Lookup the "Spiderman meets captain America" issue. In that one he is even *more* of a child, and that one is old, I believe
@hypVideo Sigh. I wasn't saying that Tom Holland started it. I was saying, I hate the way they have nerfed spidey and I hate the way Tom Holland portrays him. Also it wasn't a decade, the Civil War movie went into production in 2015 and showed in 2016. 2-3 years. Either way, I was making 3 separate statements.
@studiobaguette7781 Strength doesn't really matter when Wolverine has decades and decade of combat experience over Spider-Man. Spider-Man is my 2nd favorite hero, by the way.
@@ravager48 the writers decide who win but if u are pretty consistant u need a really goof lvl of speed and strenght to make spider man fight seriously
Funny thing is that Wolverine comes off as a jerk to Spider-Man, but Logan actually likes him as a friend. Its the reason Logan that on his birthday, Logan invited Spider-man to a bar.
I wouldn’t say Spidey was nervous, but understanding. As this comic highlighted most of the Avengers are afraid of Logan, but not Peter. Part of that reason is because Logan has never won a fight he’s been in with Peter, the other reason is Peter is one of the few people who see Logan as more than just an animal or a weapon. Peter knows there is more to Logan than that and that he can be better if he wants.
Might it be because Logan knows that Spider-Man can knock him out with one punch almost as hard and bad as Hulk?
Spider-Man is crazy strong in his own right.
Not on Hulk's level, but the wall crawler does have crazy strength and power in his own right, mind you.
I'm not taking ANYTHING away from the Green Behemoth.
@@RedPyramid-lf4sbYeah , Spiderman (1994) proves that they just hug each-other while Spiderman keeps carrying upwards & throwing him back & fourth
"Spiderman literally overpowered Wolverine in a ridiculous amount of tosses w/ Spiderman’s self defense webs & strength" 😂
Agreed! Logan really appreciates that. That’s why he only invited Spider Man to his birthday.
@@RedPyramid-lf4sb Not at all, spiderman gets bloodied knuckles punching hulk, and hulk feels nothing
@@cristhianramirez6939what he never said he is stronger than hulk he said he can knock him out like hulk wich means he is stronge but not as strong as hulk
“Come on, guys. It’s just me. Spider-Man! Everyone’s friend!”
It pains me DBZA is done, but this
This was good
@@kyleshepard3139You rat bastard, you beat me to it.
God level reference!
DBZA culture is still strong :)
Did not expect a dbza reference here lol
Being shorter then a fridge door is insane
yeah the artist was really screwing up on his height. it was radically different every panel.
@@lanceelliot9979Nah he was just on a stepping stool at 3:42
...Isn't Wolverine canonically 5'2"?
@@savvivixen8490 5'3
@@lanceelliot9979 My bad, Logan. I'd never take away your honestly grown inches, lol
I have a headcannon as to why the X Men especially Wolverine awkward around Spider Man: He reminded them of Deadpool
>Same build
>Red spandex
>Loud mouthed
>Tend to get relentlessly annoying
>Often doesn’t take things seriously
It fits.
@@bavanii.8334Unfortunately, they tend to fall for the same trick his enemies do. Spidey putting on this relentless assault of quips and such, it’s his way of staying calm, keeping himself in the fight or social situations and not spiraling. They just see the jester again, and not the guy who easily subdues 6 powerful villains in their own right in a 1v6 situation, the hero that is very serious about his job, but puts on that mask of silly goofy spider man as to make him more approachable to everyone (not that he can’t be a goofball, but he does consider taking care of his city and the civilians a very serious thing.)
@@bavanii.8334 Not to mention Deadpool's outfit was inspired by Spider-man, at least that's what Liefeld says.
"Sorry kid, some problems are out of the friendly neighborhood spider-mans wheelhouse."
Some problems have ugly solutions
Spider-Man: I can be serious
Villains: FOR THE SAKE OF ALL PLZ NO
Those fingers, the line weight, the jaw lines from hell.. That can only be Joe mad art.
My roommate was obsessed with this artist.
And his passion for his work made me equally as obsessed.
Elektra really mogged spidey here, that’s crazy
Right... its like a rookie level player trying to intimidate a Veteran Pro... its just funny and a bit cringe.
@@Legohaiden Explain this, I am actually confused. Because I'm pretty sure Spiderman would dog walk Electra if they actually went all out in a fight.
@@trayvonwhite490 You know his statement agrees with what you just said, right?
I honestly hope Spider-Man tagged along anyways, seems like something he would do, like an annoying little brother of Wolverine or something
I feel this is a bit out of character for Spiderman, in another comic he confronts Daredevil and others to stop them with their plans to kill Fisk, but here Wolverines just " ok I'm off to go murder a guy, be back for tea " and Spidermans just fine with it, like " sure, sure, you do you "
The Spider-Man u r talking about was ultimate Spider-Man, a different variant, this version is 616
That was not the ultimate universe 1610 spidey, was 15 years old. This is the original 616 spider-man who is clearly an adult.
@swordchannelfires No it wasn't. What you are talking about is during Daredevil's 2019 run where Daredevil accidentally kills someone when he hit them too hard. Spiderman told Daredevil that he needs to give up being a hero or he would MAKE Daredevil hang it up.
Wasn’t it also because Daredevil was setting a dangerous precedent for the other NYC heroes legally making it harder for them to be heroes? Wolverine ain’t a local
@@rorschac009oo8In all fairness something pretty similar does happen in early Ultimate Spider-Man. Also I’m pretty sure in the Zdarsky run it was moreso that Daredevil was going to fuck things up for all the other heroes
Swinging out the window looks really cool, but it's terribly inefficient for anyone other than spider-man. That rope needs to be approximately 400 feet long, and sturdy enough to support Logan, who is pushing 300 lbs. That's a LOT of rope. High quality climbing rope. You know, the elevator in that mansion works, right? Be on the ground floor in minutes. If you are really pressed for time, they have jet packs and aircraft. Paragliding is a thing, too. And do none of their enemies have eyes? Or lookouts? "Oh, hey, Bob, we just saw Elektra - hot half naked chick - come out of (essentially) "The heroes' home base" and headed your way. Don't be there when she arrives.". Or, like, are they patiently waiting for her to show up every time? Does she call ahead? Are their crimes catered events? The cheese and crackers show up at 2pm, but eat fast, Elektra's here at 3? So many questions.
Logan's entire skeleton and claws, after all, have been coated with adamantium, which did up his weight to 300 pounds.
I mean Elektra is half naked, of course they'll be waiting around for her
Pretty sure Logan's over 300 lbs, adamantium is a very heavy metal, like lead or gold. And if Logan were really in a hurry, he wouldn't need the rope, he could just jump out the window, it's not like his bones are going break on impact with the ground.
@@magicalminty6203 I don't recall the exact numbers but I'm pretty sure that canonically that adamantium skeleton has pushed Logan's weight beyond 500 pounds. I like to think that it's only added to his power in a fight because every swing has that much more weight behind it.
@@SpawnofChaos And it adds to his power because everything Logan does counts as weightlifting.
WHY is Wolverine so effing tall in this? If he was really hunched over in front of Spider-Woman, his head would probably be just below her nipples. The picture of him in front of the refrigerator, in the beginning was actually an accurate depiction of his height.
It's just Spidey being hunched and half-crouching. Pete prefers being ready to jump on a ceiling in case Logan decides to go stabby....
@@TheDoomsdayzoner I said "Spider-Woman." Even Spider-Woman is taller than Wolverine, and look how much he's hunched over, and still taller than her. 0:16
@@AllCoolThingsStoneMountain Yeah, that really bugged me, too. It really bothers me how they try to make every tough guy over six feet tall and made of pure muscle.
@@brandonsnyder9950 Well, I don't mind a superhero being built like a superhero, but Wolverine is called "Wolverine" because he's a small vicious animal of a man with long claws, just like the animal.
It's kind of a part of his charm, just like being a Canadian outdoors man.
Yeah…that’s just a depiction thing.
Wolverine is pretty short. Artists and writers are given a lot of creative freedom.
Ie. Storm is supposed to be like 5 foot 10 or taller. Yet very few depictions of her with wolverine show this. Even when next to “slim” Summers.
There is one drawing from the issues leading to Onslaught where he threatens Juggernaut in a bar. Best drawn accurate relative depiction of his height. He is literally standing on the bar to put his claws at the head and throat of Juggernaut.
Is this what people call clickbait? No face cleaning at all.
Not this time around.
Spider-Man DID take the mask off his face, which was healing up.
By the time Logan faced Spidey, it was already fully healed.
Spiderman basically said: "Pookie that isn't you"
I’m loving the artistry with which these pages are drawn!!!
Who’s this artist? Love the style.
Joe Madureira
@@ConanMart Ha! I just realized he also did Darksiders, which I love the style of 😄
We desperately need an else world story where an alternate Spider-Man who takes no shit just beats the respect into some of these other heroes.
I swear homie will pull off some incredible shit like single handedly dismantling the x men or stopping the hulk mid rampage and as soon as he's done saving everyones ass they immediately forget who he is because *he lets them*
Yeah, that already exists. Elseworld and 616.
@@Gunther-mt2bk allow me to clarify. I meant an else world Spider-Man going to earth 616 and showing them why they should put some respect on his name.
Although there are so many comic issues out there I feel like there's a chance it's already happened.
Any ones your referring to specifically?
Lol he's done that a lot. Shit in issue #1 he fights with the fantastic 4 and pretty easily gets away
Closest would be Superior Spiderman and the Assassin Spiderman trained by Wolverine from the Web verse series. I hate they killed him off.
Spidey can just keep that same energy Electra gave him the next time she needs him or tries talking to him
Spidey can get SO serious that one time he broke into a prison where Kingpin was and proceeded to BEAT THE SHIT out of him for shooting Aunt May. Then he threatened the Kingpin (while surrounded by the inmates he helped put in there) and said "I could do this whenever I want and they will tell everyone what happened."
You can't threaten Spider Man (personally). He cares about other people. He might pretend to be afraid as part of a bit, he's not afraid. He's fought gods, monsters, mutants, and been killed by magic. He can't be threatened. Pruno
Spider-Man Does NOT Clean Wolverine's Face
This gotta be ultimate universe
Other than Cap. Logan really respects Spider-Man. He never backs down. Always sticks to his morales and knows deep down inside. Spider-Man can clean his clock. How can he not respect that?
They jump with the buildings with ropes... Only to begin to walk because they aren't spiderman lol
Spider-Man saying he can be serious is funny it’s like watching Deadpool say I can be serious with a Batman voice😂
“I AIN’T WEARING HOCKEY PADS!!!”
So Spider-Man holds Wolverine's beer? 😆
honestly i was expecting wade in an "aquired" spidey costume
the reality is.... Spiderman could EASILY rip Wolverine in half like a sheet of paper.
Spiderman is one of the strongest superheroes out there, next to the Hulk and Superman. Way stronger then Capt America. Im talking in pure physical strength and ability to take a hit.
yes wolverine could KILL spiderman with a very lucky blow or a sucker punch... and spiderman technically couldn't kill wolverine because of his regeneration.... Spiderman could simply hold him without issue and he would be unable to do anything... not even move... that's how much stronger Spiderman is.. it would be like holding a large stuffed animal to him.
Honestly yeah, Spidey could definitely do damage to Logan (We even see this in Web of Shadows, albeit it takes a stupidly long time and effort on Spidey's end), but then it's always been a weird thing about how durable Logan's joints seem to be since one would figure his joints would not be having any kind of easy time handling his Adamantium (I assume it's partially something to do with that whole time with Apocalypse where he basically initially perfected Wolverine's evolution but didn't go all the way in on it, but then to wish for comics to be consistent about power levels is like asking a DC comics writer to avoid using Infinity feats)
One would figure Magneto could just snap his fingers and Logan's joints are ripped in half, yet that seems to often not be the case, yet he's also had his head removed before, like by Beast, who Spider-Man definitely should be above in terms of strength.
Stop this made up stuff, it takes 2 seconds to google that in Earth 616 he cannot, not even Hulk could at full rage. He can beat Wolverine via webs and speed but he is not doing any detrimental damage unhealable, please read about True Adamantium and Wolverine in Earth 616. In the universes where adamantium has been broken by THE HULK, adamantium is weak like steel not like 616 earth where not even Thor could harm it via full force mjolnir..
@@PolarityOfNeoSoulCityNone of this is accurate in Earth 616.. Magneto only and he manipulates on a monecular level which means he moved the adamantium not destroyed it.
"Doesn't want to and this never tried" is not the same as "Could never".
Logan's adamantium does NOT cover his joints. If it did he couldn't move anywhere near as flexibly, if at all. His joints are this a structural weakpoint by necessity and someone strong enough can and HAS ripped him limb from limb.
@@galaxycamerata This is true since the Wendigo did it in the 616 variant (And that would be the only instance that mattered since the 1610 Wolverine's Adamantium is much less durable)
It does make me wonder about the strength required for it since one would at least figure that if a mutant like Nitro was able to let off his blast point-blank at Logan before Logan recognized the whole "Safe zone" instant when Nitro leveled a city, and apparently his joints held out so his skeleton could make that infamous pose, is Spider-Man punching at that kind of strength without a Symbiote?
Not saying Spidey loses to Logan, Spider-Man has one of the highest win ratios on the Canucklehead time and again
Although Wolverine looks like a caveman...Spiderman is way stronger
Cmon man take the stairs or elevator guys lol
Its refreshing to see street level heroes just do thier thing (i know some of them are stronger but still)
I like that you know everyone else is afraid of Logan, but Spider-Man isn't because his Spidey Sense doesn't go off...even when Logan "threatens" him.
It’s a shame that I fall for these even though they’re just AI voiced slop churned out
I can already tell this got to be the Tom Holland Spider-Man because he's way too dorky in Spider-Man can be serious especially when he got that venom suit on but that's the Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man💯🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love Joe Mads art
mad to think spiderman could punch wolverine through a building if he tried to hurt him however unlike everyone else he sees logan as a person not a weapon or some "thing" u throw at the enemy. He knows theres a reason logan is how he is and wants to be there enough to make sure he keeps his humanity
She could’ve said hi or how you doing or anything but no she chooses to just mean mug
Nobody gonna mention this was written by zeb wells? 😅
those katanas are placed wrong
So im pretty new to comics. Was wolverine always around the avengers?
Wolverine has been pretty much on every team.
He that loose cheerleader in high school that been in everyone's back car seat
No……it’s a “New Avengers” mid 2000 thing. Around the Luke Cage joining then leading time frame.
Before him the mutants were Beast and the pre retcon because of the horrible Fox deal Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver.
Wolverine and Spidey have both been tossed around a lot
it seems like everyone has been an Avenger at some point, they take anyone
Why is Marvel hiring idiot writers and artists who know nothing about the characters? Wolverine's 5'3 is *NOT* taller than Peter's 5'9/5'10. This is basic knowledge of the characters
It is when Wolverine is standing up straight but Peter is hunching over or crouching his legs as he clearly is and is thus seven to eight inches shorter than usual.
Somebody doesn't seem to understand that body posture and pose can affect relative apparant height.
It actually seems to me that Peter is bringing himself down to equal eye level with Logan as a show of his sincerity. He is trying to talk to Logan as an equal, not talk down to him, and the fact he is hunching down to be at that equal eye level visually symbolizes that.
It is pretty fantastic detail work, actually.
@@GuukanKitsunesomebody didn't seem to noticed the 1:53 mark. Spider-Man standing straight holding a six pack while Logan is slouched over dang near matching Peter height
@@GuukanKitsuneand 3:48. Plus, Logan slouched over walking past Spider-Woman who is 5'10 as well 0:18.
@Visemoon Perspective. Both times Logan is closer to the 'camera' and thus looks BIGGER. Another basic imagery concept you don't seem to get.
Although in fairness it is a little sloppily done so it's understandable not to pick up on it.
As for 3:48. Logan's eyes are level with Peter's mouth. Accurately. Because Peter is standing straight while Logan is barely hunched at all and rising onto his toes like he does whenever he does his classic 'threatening ' posture (the pose he does when he is threatening to unsheathe his claws. It is a pose he has done countless times, every time he wants to look intimidating for any reason.)
Again, fully accurate to their relative size as canon.
@@GuukanKitsune I see... I'm clearly talking with someone who is legally blind or doesn't have a basic imagery concept of art.
3:48. Wolverine is clearly NOT closer to our view after he hands Peter the six-pack. They are side by side with Peter standing straight while Logan is slouched over. Get a ruler 📏. Measure from Logan's shoulder to Peter. You clearly see his shoulder is even with Peter's chin. The artist messed up. There's no debating it
3:48. *"Logan's eyes are even with Peter's mouth?"* This just proves you don't have basics imagery concept. Use that same ruler. You'll see Logan's NOSE is level with Peter's mouth. Use that same ruler, Logan's mouth is even with Peter's chin. Use the same ruler, Logan's eyes are just under Peter's nose (pointy part in the middle of Peter's face). There's no debating it. Hate to break it to you, but the evidence clearly says you're wrong
*"Logan standing on his toes?"* Really, man?! Now, you gotta make up a fraudulent claim? Something that can't be seen on the panel? Don't do that. Stick to the facts, evidence, and proof. All of which says you're wrong, and the artist messed up.
Another inaccurate title. So tiered of these
What title and issue is this please?
no you cant be death serious that'z the kinda thing logan try'z to not do as much as he can but he'z a spirit of pain rage and sometime'z a killer of people weather it'z for the commen good or a hipacrit like way but when death come'z he tries so hard to be a good guy about it and not do what we all think need'z to be done to some of the monster'z some are just that a monster they care very little who die'z and who live'z logan tries to be civil and sometime'z it hunt'z him back......
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He can be serious, but is he rip your own face off to get a healed in mask off and just regrow your face without making a noise serious? Spider man turns around after Wolverine leaves and catches sight of what wolverine did in 2 mins......"maybe I'm not that serious."
Spider man’s overated, Logan would have put Peter in the ground.
Spider-Man was just trying to make conversation with Elektra & she acts like a b!tch to him giving him the silent treatment like he's some annoyance.
The AI reading is so cringe
Though I am sensitive to characters changing/ developing with time, I hate hate hate what the Avengers and Tom Holland depiction has done to Spidey... THIS aint Spidey. They've just nerfed him and made him a silly character not to be taken seriously.
Lol dude read the description, this comic is before tom holland ever portrayed spider man
And even so, Spiderman is literally one of the characters with more versions and depictions. In a few the outright refuses to do groups at all, and in other he is dying to do groups.. F. Ex. Lookup the "Spiderman meets captain America" issue. In that one he is even *more* of a child, and that one is old, I believe
Bruh this issue came out a near decade before Tom Holland was even spider-man 😂
@hypVideo Sigh. I wasn't saying that Tom Holland started it. I was saying, I hate the way they have nerfed spidey and I hate the way Tom Holland portrays him. Also it wasn't a decade, the Civil War movie went into production in 2015 and showed in 2016. 2-3 years. Either way, I was making 3 separate statements.
@@jml5227I have to agree with this, there are many versions
i hated that art style
This was hm....kind meh om the down
animal
How can spiderman be afraid when he is just stronger than logan
A lack of self esteem.
@studiobaguette7781 Strength doesn't really matter when Wolverine has decades and decade of combat experience over Spider-Man. Spider-Man is my 2nd favorite hero, by the way.
@@ravager48 spider sense and higher speed wtf will wolverine do wolverin has problem with sabeetooth cause he is faster so a spidey its a big problem
@@studiobaguette7781 If that's the case, then Spider-Man shouldn't have lost any of his fights in any of his stories...
@@ravager48 the writers decide who win but if u are pretty consistant u need a really goof lvl of speed and strenght to make spider man fight seriously
You should narrate these yourself. The AI voice really screws up the inflections. I can't imagine it'd add much time to the production.
Seriously I hate it when they draw Spidey this way, skinny, caricature, cartoonish, unrealistic.
No but like… enormously buff men aren’t realistic either. I love this scrawny little Spider-Man so much personally
Hawkeye: Logan perchè continui a bere?
Logan: Fuck you
Not sure if anyone said it but.....
Wolverine totally looked like the expression of: Here, hold my beer.