The history of the Albanian double-headed eagle
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In ancient cultures around the world, the eagle has often been regarded as the representative of the gods. Throughout human history, the eagle symbols have played a significant role not only in spirituality but also as symbols of social and political positions.
Unlike the symbol of the single-headed eagle, the double-headed eagle (which we will cover more generally in this video), has a more powerful meaning and is often referred to various empires.
In regards to the highly debated questions behind the history of the Albanian state symbol, we aim to clarify a few misconceptions by mapping out when it first appeared in Albanian heraldry and who they inherit it from.
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Your a true son of the eagle. Thank so much for generous donation brother! 🦅
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle 🇦🇱 Tungjat jeta brother haw are you, I dont anderstem mach English, I speak Germen, and I wil to spend somthing for Children The Eagle, Pleas gret to you.
@progresstothestarsYou sound ridiculous in every word you say. Just BS. First of all the eagle is an Illyrian symbol. Illyrians (our ancestors) used it before anyone else. Then Byzantine Empire took it and continued to use it. It was used by Albanian noble families which ruled the Albanian principalities in the early Middle Ages and then it continued to be used by our national hero Gjergj Kastriot Skenderbe in all of his battles. And we still have that same flag. 🇦🇱🦅. We call ourselves Shqipetare which in Albanian means sons of eagle. Shqiponje means eagle in Albanian. Then we use the word shqip meaning to speak, communicate, to express. Shqiptoj is the verb. So it’s Albanian word. We have the word uje for water and for the sea 🌊 det. Those are Albanian authentic words that don’t have anything to do with your Serbian language. Our language is more rich and way more older than yours. We are autochthonous in those lands. It’s proven scientifically and historically that we are natives in the Balkan while you came in 7th century from the Carpathians in Russia. 👋
this whole vid was like a movie, gave me legit goosebumps. keep spreading the truth about our ancestors.🦅🐐
Sussy alabania flag
@@MakriaMicronation tf you talking about?
Talking about that goat you have mounting your eagle
I just wanted to say that all your Albanian historical documentaries are spectacular and brilliantly covered. It really gives me joy watching these videos, being just perfectly articulate to detailed length as they are. There is no other channel around covering Albanian history precisely like you do, especially a fellow Albanian. Bravo, meriton ma shum per ket kontribut qe e jep!
Thank you so much for your appreciation!
Actuallay gjurme shqip is also very very good in telling real albanian history.But it is mostly in Albanian so nothing for outsiders
@@jebm7706Marin Mema and Gjurmë Shqiptare was the main inspiration to make videos of Albanian History for non Albanian speakers. Don't think I've missed one documentary he's done.
You have to see, the Argonauts who also deal with the Albanians, that's why the Ottoman Empire called us Arnauts, they just left out (go) and Arnaut abkütz.
@@arsenijearsen3041 😂😂😂😂 Sherbe = Servant😅😅😅😅
Honestly, this video was a masterpiece for all Albanians! Good work, keep going.
This is the most brilliant and truthful, honest and fact video I ever watched for so many years our neighbouring countries denied our history our symbols and culture and also our heroes. I want to thank you for this video and I hope your life is full of success. 🙌🏼🙏🏻🇦🇱
Thank you so much for your kind words and for appreciating the video!
Goosebumps during the last sentence 🤌🇦🇱❤️
shum faleminderit per ket dokomentar jemi krenar qe jemi shqiptar ARBROR.
I am speechless my grandfather told me our roots and the history of our flag❤Thank you✌️
Ohh cfarë kënaqësie,të shikosh historinë e Shqiptarisë...i ke rendintur e ndërthurur pikat më koncize në kohë. Vetëm një Atdhedashur mund ta bëjë ktë. Bravo SHQIPE!!!
Μπράβο αλιθινι ιστορία τα πεδία του Θεού bijte e Shqipes ❤🎉😊
@@aggelostsaousai9317O Shqipe shkruj shkurt e Shqip, mos shkruj në gjuhen e fashistve greko serb, tfl mir mbeç.🇦🇱
Well done and well said. Albanians are just scratching the surface of their history. There’s way more to come until they change the history books👐🏻
Those graves are in Vuksanlekaj Montenegro south of tuzi I’m Albanian Camaj and I live there
Clear and very well written movie-like documentary. Keep making these videos and hats off to you brother. Jemi një Komb, një Flamur.
Shumë faleminderit për Historinë e vertetë 🇦🇱♥️
E sod qohen shum shqiptar krishtert edhe thojn flamuri ka kuptim krishter ...qetash kejt mendojn qashtu a flamuri vjen para krishtit
@@trikos0637 🇦🇱 nuk ka lidhje me fen....
@@trikos0637iliret kishin simbol hanen dhe yllin .shqiponja vjen mbas vitit 395 ne kohen è bizantit .persa i perket fese krishtere qe pranun iliret para kohes bizantit nuk ka lidhje me flamurin .dhe shqiponjen me dy krere e krijuan Arberit Kastriotet
@@micani30Jeni shumë i gabuar vella 🇦🇱
Se para erës sonë është gjetur një gur i gdhendur që është simboli i kombit shqiptar 🇦🇱..RRoftë kombi shqiptar 🇦🇱♥️
@@illyria8119η πέτρα ήταν να φτιάξετε κανένα σπίτι
Grazie per queste preziose testimonianze ...la storia non nega...grazie infinite.viva i pellasghi... dardani... iliriani...🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱💪✌ albania🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🙏🙏🙏🙏
Respekte pa fund 🇦🇱♥️🇽🇰
Grazie. 🙏🇦🇱👋🇮🇪
Brava Debora❤
Deborah pershendetje nga Kosova 🇦🇱🇽🇰 PROUD TO BE AAAALBANIAN
Kosovo e kosovari battito del cuore per tutti albanesi. Stesso DNA, stessa lingua. Kosovo = Albania. ❤❤🇦🇱🇦🇱💪✌🙏
I got goosebumps when you mentioned Eagle people - Land of Eagle - Eagle language ... that's the reason of the word Shqiptar it comes from Shqiponja , being Called Illyrian (Iliri) which means freedom , Eagle is the meaning of Freedom , there is no predators for Eagles they rule the land and especially the sky , proud to be Shqiptar Ilir
Shqiponja it comes from sqep
This is used to feed and to eat.
And also meaning clear.
@@mr-ladi617 In the Albanian language there used to be no "q" but k or C, which means the same skep and scep also fits.
@@mr-ladi617 Sqep do te thot me majen e sqepit qe kap mishin. mishin e copton kur e han me sqep, gjuhen e vjeter shkruhet keshtu skep ose scep. ne e thumi skep akoma.
Illyri=ylli-ri(new star born)Earth,all human race one DNA 🧬 from Illyrian 🦅🇦🇱🦅
Te rujt zoti o kreshnik mali
I love it, the documentary is just perfect with alot of authentik information 👐👐
Thank you so much for your appreciation!
Faliminderit, respekte per punen!
Shumë faleminderit për respektin dhe kontributin tuaj!! ☝️🇦🇱
My favorite history channel ❤🦅👐🏼 proud to be Albanian
I love you documentaries, and this one helps to understand why the Albanian flag is one of the only few may be 2nd or 3rd world oldest flags in the world, you truly are amazing in thees type factual documentary’s, and i love watching & sometimes sharing them to👏👏
*Whith a big fat smile* Thank you so much for your appreciation!
Të lumshin duart!
Well done!
Ju falemiderit shum per kete dokumentar te shkelqyr nje bravo te made 👏 👏
Really beautiful done. You captured the essence of spirituality, myth, legends, and symbolism and put the development into a historical context that captures the truth of the Albanian language. Identity shifts, so does conscious awareness. Context dramatically changes the psyche and awareness of a people as well. But what is astonishing is that you found the true myth of our language, founded on the beauty of nature and the spirit behind. Thank you for this great video!
We Bosniaks ,most of us,love Albania and Albanians. Kosovo is not Serbia.Sadly thousands of our Bosniak women and young girls suffered during the aggression ,(RAPED In Brutal Ways).We should be little devils also back then and stretched out Serbian women and girls but there is always time for that in the other round ( if it comes to it ).Srebrenica was also very sad and a war crime against us Bosnian Muslims……
Edhe ne ju duam sepse kemi vuajtur njisoj Por ne me bes te fjales ,jemi tradhtu nga shejtonat si serb me pa besi kan vra e pre njirez te mir si ju apo si ne Qe tani ne kto momente e dun te gjith Shqipninë ..Gjuha shqipe osht gjuha e zogjëve osht mo e bukur mo tingulluse Respekt pa fund vlla
According to the dna you Bosnians are related to Albanians , also Croatians and a small percentage of barbarian Serbs.
you can't seriosuly blame serbs for their war crimes against innocent woman while waiting for a chance to rape their woman...
@@albundy1767You created the universe😂
Your nations were created to destabilize the region.
Brravo o shqipe te lutem vetem vazhdo tregoju botes se kush jemi ne ❤🇦🇱💪🏼
Who knows why the Romans called the today's center-north of Albania ILLYRIA GRAECA or EPIRUS NOVA with the most famous Greek Colonies such as Apollonia, Epidamnus and Lissos which still can be seen. On the other hand the center-Southern part of today's Albania all the way down to today's Arta in Greece was called in the Roman era OLD EPIRUS or EPIRUS VETA land of the Greek tribes of Chaonians, Molossians, and Thesprotians. The Illyrian tribes living in EPIRUS NOVA were conquered by the Greeks (Macedonians) and fully hellenized by the 4th century BC and thus assimilated. As far as it concerns the Pelasgian Tribes were pre-hellenic and Crete, Thera (Santorini) etc are great examples of early Hellenic History. The "Catalogue of Women" (7th century BC) presents an aitiology for the various tribes of the Greeks (Hellenes), deriving them from Hellen and Pandora, the children of Deukalion and Pyrrha (Πύρρα which in Greek means "red haired" or "fire colored)). Pandora (named after her grandmother Pandora) together with Zeus had three sons: Graecus, Magnetas and Makednos, while Hellen had the three sons Dorus, Xuthus (with his sons Ion and Achaeus) and Aeolos, corresponding to the founders of the seven tribes of the (Boeotian) Graecians, the (Thessalian) Magnetes, the Macedonians, the Dorians, the Ionians, the Achaeans and the Aeolians, respectively. All the following are the most known Hellenic Tribes which inhabited the entire Greek Peninsula, the Islands and most parts of the modern Albania:
LATE STONE AND EARLY BRONZE AGE
Pelasgians
Minoic Cretans
LATE BRONZE AGE (Mycenaean Greece)
*Achaeans/Ahhiyawa
IRON AGE
*Aeolians
**Thessalians
**Magnesians
**Boeotians
***Thebans
*Ionians (Attic-Ionic)
**Athenians
**Euboeans
**Milesians
*Dorians
**Spartans
**Locrians
**Cretans
**Rhodians
**Aetolians
*Arcado-Cypriots
**Arcadians
**Cypriots
*Macedonians;
*Epirotes;
*Thracian Greeks or Aegean Thracians;
*Geloni
THE REST IS THE NEWLY FOUND ALBANIAN NATIONALISM AND PROPAGANDA EVEN IF IT IS FULLY EVIDENT THAT MOST OF TODAY'S ALBANIA HAS GREEK AND NO SO MUCH ILLYRIAN PAST. MANY ALBANIANS ARE EPIROTES WHICH WAS AN ANCIENT GREEK TRIBE. EVEN TODAY, THE SOUTHERN PART OF ALBANIA IS INHABITED BY A GREEK MINORITY WHICH HAS ANCIENT EPIROTE ORIGINS. AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED ALBANIA AND GREECE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE STATE SINCE THEY HAVE ONE COMMON HISTORY (WHICH ISN'T ALBANIAN BUT EPIROTE).
Skanderbeg’s (Kastriotis) helmet says clearly his titles and separates distingly the Greek tribes (Emathians and Epirotes) from the Albanian ones on its Inscription. The helmet is made of white metal, adorned with a strip dressed in gold. On its top lies the head of a horned goat made of bronze, also dressed in gold. The bottom part bears a copper strip adorned with a monogram separated by rosettes * IN * PE * RA * TO * RE * BT *, which means: Iesus Nazarenus * Principi Emathie * Regi Albaniae * Terrori Osmanorum * Regi Epirotarum * Benedictat Te (Jesus Nazarene Blesses Thee [Skanderbeg], Prince of Emathia (since he was named after Alexander the Great), King of Albania, Terror of the Ottomans, King of Epirus). So we observe that Epirotans and Emathians as Greeks are separately named from Albanians which means that they were 2 different peoples under Kastrioti's rule.
@@katerinatsoliakou235 ΣΑΦΩΣ
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@@Usera2324dfre in our area and where we live of course is everything Hellenic (Greek), have no doubts about that... and yes most Albanians aren't Sqhiptaret but Epirotes ( a Greek tribe). Is it so tragic for you??? if it is then deal with it but we won't let you revise history because the historical truth doesn't suit you.
Skenderbeg, Đurađ Kastriot , was an orthodox Serb. His father Jovan was a ruler of Zeta and his mother Vojislava was the from the Branković family. Skenderbeg 's father was buried in Hilandar, the most sacred serbian monastery and his and the name of his sons - Ivan, Đurađ, Staniša..are written on the walls of Hilandar in Serbian cirilic. This area was inhabited by Ilirians ( Serbs) and Greeks. Serbs are Ilirians who later blended with Slavs.
@@Forevertrue-z2w quindi i serbi non sono slavi ma illirici?non vi posso dare torto quando vi lavano il cervello
Interestingly Pyrrhus was called "The great Eagle of Epirus"
because Pirrua was Arbëror, Tosk
"Rome had even defeated A PROPER GREEK KING when they outlasted Pyrrhus of Epirus and drove him out of Italy."
RONALD MELLOR, THE CONFRONTATION BETWEEN GREEK AND ROMAN IDENTITY, p.96
"Epirus was an ancient GREEK state, located in the geographical region of Epirus in the western Balkans. The homeland of the ancient Epirotes was bordered by the Aetolian League to the south, Thessaly and Macedonia to the east, and Illyrian tribes to the north."
wiki/Epirus_(ancient_state)
@@vangelisskia214I warned you,Greeks, now they are stealing your history.
"... the "Greekness" of the Epirotes, despite them not being considered as refined as southern Greeks, never came into question."
Engels, Johannes (2010). "Macedonians and Greeks". In Roisman, Joseph; Worthington, Ian (eds.). A Companion to Ancient Macedonia. Oxford, Chichester, & Malden: Wiley-Blackwell. pp. 81-98
Great video proud to be Albanian 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Shum faleminderit e mrekullueshme
Great documentary, thank you looking for the next ones!
Une jam Shqiptare nje Turkija. Te dua shum Kosova&Albania. Rrofte Shqipija ❤🇦🇱🇽🇰
Man this makes so much sense.....
And the Constantinople flag thats where the Serbs got it from.... something strange there
Some Albanians are starting considering Napoleon as an Arberesh from Italy. I would like to make a video about it.
Whether he was Arbresh or not is rather difficult to claim. However, despite his true origin, his lengthy campaigns against Ali Pash Tepelena is very interesting. Perhaps a video down the line.
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle ok
sorry for late comment.
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle yea please make a video on that
Sure he was arberesh . At fisrt his family migrated from Morea to south italy like many arbers , then from italy to france . At his army there were formations of stradioti , albanian warriors . And historians said that sometimes he spoke in an strange language (albanian) to these formations
Im albanian but i don’t agree with the theory that he’s arber
Hey hey you there… Scanderberg incorporated his double head eagle from his father, and his father Kastrioti from his father. By the way, at that time there was no facebook, no youtube and no internet. That means you could not copy something that is used at the other part of the world. The double head eagle in modern Albania was herritaged to us just like our language, which has not been transformed since the Ilirian times like greek or latin.
I bet all this amazing work wich includes many historical facts not easy to puzzle them all together if you dont have the knowledge , being a researcher ,and above all being passionate with doses of patriotism wouldnt be here to enjoy. I am very sure its done from alba niggaz wich live abroad like everything good that happened in our history . Our recent historians and archeologists have been too busy with politics and they have spend all their energy how to lie and destroy further our country instead of preserving it. What good we had from our history is either albanians living abroad or those that they left like most are doing even now . ofc austrians and other foreigners have done the work we couldnt .Hope this channel will shed a light about us and no matter how little still will help a lot of foreigners wich have touristic interest to understand better our country and they will be amazed to find out that we dont have just cheap seas and montains but also a very ancient culture. I hope the team involved can Keep up the good work and never give up. Thanks for the video and what you guys doing there
Branislav Nušić: "Albanians are indigenous, who during all invasions of peoples kept its type and character significantly. They faced attacks by Romans, dense Slavs raids, who invadet them all fields, plains, and rivers ".
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@@arianhoti4090 Albanians are Indigenous, native to the Balkan. It’s proven scientifically , historically & culturally. 🇦🇱 Some extremely nationalist Serbs and Greeks don’t accept the fact but at the end of the day the truth is louder than any propaganda they have. Proud to be Albanian 🇦🇱👐🏼🦅
Albanians created the universe. The God is an albanian. The ancient Greeks, Romans , Egypt, Mesopotamia, ancient India and China, Inka and Mayans- all Albanians. Adam and Eve were sent to Albania first , which is actually Heaven on Earth. Bravo👏
You got the ancient "Greeks" are Albanian right at least 😂
@@southepirote7676Did anyone tell that to poor Greeks?😂
@@Forevertrue-z2w The poor inferior Greek nationalists already know that but they choose to cover it up with lies and ad hominems.
@@Forevertrue-z2w you can safely say that the earth is flat then hahaha! I saw that you said that "Albanians" are Serbs! I already understand that you are not clear and that you are making propaganda. tell me the origin of your Serbian language?
not all Albanians who write on the internet are historians or scientists, but I am and I teach too.
😂🤣
"The ethnonym "Albanian", where it is found in medieval sources, has one of the following meanings: a) Someone who speaks Albanian, b) someone from the geographical area of Albania, REGARDLESS OF THE LANGUAGE SPOKEN, and c) a man of the mountains and the countryside."
Schmitt Jens Oliver (2009), Skanderbeg: Der neue Alexander auf dem Balkan, pp. 353, 354
Yeah what are you trying to prove lol
Fantastic video! Keep it up!
Very very interesting.I find you video very nice because you brings proofs for example you say the illyrians used the goat as as symbol and then you bring a picture as proof very nice
Faleminderit per komentin qe dhe ndihem krenar qe jam shqiptar🇦🇱
Amazing! Thank you for uploading this great video.
One question: are you Albanian?
Yes!
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes.
To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin.
Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries.
Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek.
Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts.
In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
there is no pure nation in 2024 my friend unfortunately and we have been neighbours forever greetings from a greek of Cyprus
MODERN GREEKS ARE DECEDENTS OF ANCIENT MYCENAEANS
"Comparison between ancient DNA and modern DNA suggest that the Greeks are descendants of the Mycenaeans and that only a small proportion of the DNA in living Greeks come from later migrations to Greece."
sciscape/modern-greeks-decedents-ancient-mycenaeans/
Great video and wonderful insight.. I am of Ancient Scots/Irish descent, my family name Is "O'Riada" and our family crest Is actually a "double headed eagle," and the name O'Riada [Irish] (Anglicized = Reed) can be traced to northern Phoenicia circa 1500bc and it derives from the people who worshipped the Goddess "Rhea".. cheers Aj
Fenomenal shume bukur mjalte per goje po qet duke treguar histori te verteta bravos
Ne faleminderit shum per videon pershqiponjen dy krenare per flamurin ton kombetar♥️♥️♥️🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
❤❤❤ Albania❤❤❤
Kjo tokë dhe gjuha e jonë janë aq sa të veçanta po edhe të shëjta.
Keep at it brother, the biggest historical cover up will be known by everyone, but i feel like you should have gone into the plis or qeleshe and how it represents the egg of the eagle, and also in what country was the illyrian engraving of the double headed eagle on the soilders shield found?
Watch it again... I say, "Found in modern-day Croatia"
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle makes sense thank you brother
Faleminderit shume emision i vertet dhe i sakte bravo albania 🇦🇱 👏 🙌 ♥️ ❤❤
Very good 👍 lovely facts 👌
Ju faleminderit për historinë e vërtetë që tregoni për Shqipërinë tonë 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱me prejardhje pellazge më pas Ilire ,Arbërore, deri në ditët e sotme me emrin ALBANIAN 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Më vjen shumë mirë që ju pëlqeu videoja! Faleminderime te përzemërta!!
The last sentence was beautiful.
Your videos are really well prepeared. I subscribed to you. 💫
Great video proud to be Albanian 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
The Double eagle is an original Byzantine symbol as George kastriotis family and ancestors were members of a Balkan Byzantine aristocracy class. Facts are sacred comments are free
Nope, they were Serbs
@@Forevertrue-z2w be mad kid
@@Forevertrue-z2w dream my kids😂
Look the video to the end ten you know were the 🇦🇱 got their Double headed eagle from
@@user-qf4ht1nw6f keep dreaming...Facts are sacred comments are free
"Skanderbeg ADOPTED the similar BYZANTINE imperial flag, with the double-headed eagle and the red background, and his victories brought him the papal title Athleta Christi."
wiki/Flag_of_Albania
The Pelasgians were proto Albanians and were considered barbaric by Greeks. Pelasgian family lists languages in four groups, of which only Albanian is well-attested»
Oxford University Linguistics
“The speakers of the Indo-European language that would become Albanian and the speakers of the Indo-European language (Hellenic Albanian) that would become Modern Greek were the first to enter the Illyrian Peninsula whose languages are of relevance for modern Albanian linguistics.”:
«Nonetheless, most historians have decided that the evidence linking Albanian to Messapic, which in turn has been linked to Illyrian, is sufficient to see Albanian as a descendant of a language to Illyrian, if not a descendant of Illyrian itself»
It is argued that Albanian's affinities to the Messapic language proved that, at the very least, it was part of the same brandy as illyrian
John Van Antwerp (1991). University of Michigan, Press. Book: (the illyrians were able to rettest into the mountains at the time of slavic migrations and thereby to retain their identities as albanians»
Also «traditionally scholars have seen the illyrians as the proto - albanians».
Scholars like the Oxford Professor of History, Noel Malcolm, link the Albanian origin to the ancient area of Epirus. Again, some will probably oppose this explanation solely due to political bias.
By Budapest university in hungary:
«The albanians are one of the most ancient people of southeast Europe; their ancestors were illyrians...
From Linköping university:
«order to understand the Albanian language, one must first understand this country’s history. Being one of the oldest peoples in the southeast Europe, Albanians have a formidable history dating back to the time of Alexander the Great but even further back via the history of their ancestors, the Illyrians.
Published by H. M. Stationary office in university of California
«the albanians, skipetars, epirotes, dardanians are descendants of the ancient illyrians.
This book is by university of california as you can see with the «univ calif» ok the Bottom of every page in the book.
«While the strong men of Albania, like their ancestors Who lived before agamemnon» page 179
Also «the illyrian tribes, now represented by shkypetar or albanians» page 181.
«by constantine A. Chekrezi, A. B. (Harv)» aka by Harvard university (best university in the world), also published in Columbia university as it also says.
«It is generally recognized to-day that the albanians are the most ancient race in southeastern europe. All indications point to the fact that They are the descendants of the earliest pelasgians were represented in historical times by the kindred illyrians, macedonians.» in page 3.
also «this (albanian) language is particularly interesting as the only surviving representative of the so called illyrian group of languages» in page 5.
By University of NORTH Dakota: «the albanians are Among the oldest people of europe. Anciently their country formed a part of the roman provinces of illyria epirus». In page 1
By Colorado state university:
«Archaeological excavations in central and northwest Greece have brought to light the cultural and skeletal remains of the ancient Illyrians» also:
«the physical activity of the illyrians, ancient albanians...» both of these sentences is in page 1.
Because Serbian noble men have white doble- headed eagle on their armour, he was a Serb .
Greeks are slavs
@MaraNic-5x perche non li fatte un monumento in mezzo a belgrado
@@Forevertrue-z2w "BYZANTINE"
Pune e shkelqyer, suksese.
Wow this is special.
Im from Tomorri
Excellent! Must add to this beautiful lecture that the Hittites relate to the Illyrian-Dardanians. The very late discoveries of their writing tells to the scholars that their language relates to Albanian. The double headed eagle of the Hittites came to the Illyrian Peninsula or vice-versus.
Both Albanian and Greek mythology descend from Palesgian mythology, and the Palesgians themselves likely inherited it from the Mesopotamians or Levanites. The Indo-Europeans came and assimilated the Palesgians, leading to Illryian and Hellenic cultures.
God bless you thank you very much for telling the truth
ju kshilloj qe te shikoni emisionin rrenjet tona dhe te bashkpunoni me ta . profesionalizmi i juaj per krijim e kti lloj dokumentari dhe diturit e tyre do shendrroheshin ne vepra epike . do e ndriqonte terrin qe e ka kapluar historin ton. ju deshiroj suksese te metutjeshme me kto vepra patriotike moderrne qe po i beni.
I saw an eagle today…
Wow 👏 🇦🇱 100% oldest forever
Thank you l am Albania
Faleminderit!
Pyrrhus was not Illyrian. He was Greek and so was Alexander. Being on the boarder and being royalty you can say that the might have had some Illyrian ancestors but that about it.
Nga zbulimet ai gjithmone ka gnuajtur veten ilir
Proud to be Albanian 🇦🇱🇦🇱🔥🦅🦅
Arkeologet me te medhenj te botes kane thene:Qe te mesosh historin e botes dhe te gjuheve qe fliten duhet te mesosh me pare historin e SHQIPERISE
Ilir prit se qershin mbi tort e kan lon te funit ne malet e hekrave ku jan gjetur gance te medhenj flitet qe atje osht nji anije kozmike shum e modhe prej 24,000 vitesh Athere do cmenden te gjith
Jemi shume enderimtare ne si popull
@@mar-tin702Dúhét té kuptojm nje gje nga historia jón qe te mos vritemí me njéri tjetrín,per gjera kot,
Shapo Respekt ❤
Many British historians tells us the same, Albanians were the very 1st people empire on that part of the world. 👏
Lol
The neutral historians say the truth. Then on the other hand are the propaganda machine historians who hide the truth and lie because it doesn’t fit their agenda. The west historians always have been right about Albanians 🇦🇱🦅👐🏼
Undefeated Undisputed Albanian Heavyweight King Gjergj Kastrioti-Scanderbeg 🇦🇱👑
This was amazing
Really enjoyed. O sa mire me ken SHQIPETAR.
Rrespekt nur Wahrheit und nicht mehr als die Wahrheit YLLIRIAN Sacrum Superior 🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱🇦🇱
Perfekt gemacht ❤
Shumë shumë flm i nderuar Shqipëtar, këto fakte tē vërteta duhet edhe në gjuhen Frenge Gjermane dhe greke dhe serbe, se ata jan ma të egrit e gjuhës Shqipe, Ilire pelazge, pun të mbar🇦🇱🇽🇰🇲🇰
So proud to be albanian 🇦🇱❤️🇦🇱👐👐🫶
"It has been reported that at the end of the 20th century some Christian Albanians still used the term "TURK" to refer to Muslim Albanians. "
Matvey Lomonosov, "On Albanian Identity in the Late Ottoman Empire", Porta Balkanica, vol. 5, 2013, p.12
Well that’s just wrong 😂
jam Ilir dhe Dardan histori emrin e kam ❤🦅🇦🇱🦅
Bravo great job 😊
Excellent video! Thanks !🙏
Faleminderit shum!♥️🦅
I'm sorry but this video is hilarious even more because of the serious narration, I thought i'd see an informative video about albanian history but this is blatant albanian pseudohistory. Some observations I made:
1:51 There is a piece of greek pottery of the archaic period from Laconia, Greece from 560 B.C which you call "pelasgian" simple because you don't want to mention it as greek.
4:17 You say the "slavic" Empire simply because you don't want to call it the Serbian Empire.
4:55 This is the boundaries of the Praetorian Perfecture of Illyricum from the late 4th century C.E. Nothing to do with the actual boundaries of ancient Illyria. You could put the borders of the province of Illyricum from the 1st century and it wouldn't even include modern albania. You obviously use this border to suggest that Greece is included in.
5:30 Double headed eagles were used by Assyrians, Hittites and even Mycenaean Greeks way before you find this symbol in the northen balkans. The Roman eagle was the sacred animal of Zeus/Jupiter/Jove the Greco-Roman god as you mentioned.
5:38 Illyrian Peninsula ??? you mean the Balkan Peninsula?
6:04 The Balkans where mostly latinized or hellenized by that point in time. The byzantine empire was for the most part concetrated around Asia Minor and Greece for most of it's history. The eagle survived from greco-roman times and the two-headed eagle as an imperial symbol derived from Asia Minor and probably Armenia.
6:55 When modern scholars talk about pelasgians we usually mean the pre-indoeuropean, "pre-greek", inhabitants of mainland Greece and the Aegean. But according to tradition the inhabitants of Greece were called Pelasgians after king Pelasgus of Argos who, if we take into account the ancient greek chronology, lived around the 19th-18th century B.C. During this time we know that proto-greeks had already settled in southern Greece so yes actual pelasgians were infact greek speakers.
7:18 The Lemnos stele is written in a Tyrsenian language not indoeuropean and has nothing to do with Illyrian. Illyrian is believed to be indo-european much like modern albanian. The lemnos stele is either evidence of etruscan settlement on the island or evidence of the aegean origin of Etruscans and Rhaetians.
8:34 Dodona is not located on mount Tomor but way to the south near Ioannina, Epirus, Greece and it started as a mycenaean oracle.
8:44 This myth exists but you got it wrong: the eagles collided at Delphi not Dodona and certainly not mount Tomor. Delphi is near mount Parnassus in southern Greece.
10:26 Fun fact the "Illyrian" type helmets were first crafted in Corinth Greece later adopted by Illyrians.
10:40 Amalthea was a goat, Zeus' mother is the Titaness Rhea.
11:00 The "Illyrian" general Pyrrhus was actually an Aeacid King of Epirus the Epirotes being greek people.
11:04 Alexander the Great, King of Macedon was also an Argead king of the ancient Macedonians also being an essentially greek people.
11:44 I've read Arrian and Plutarch don't remember reading that about Alexander.
12:32 If you read the epistole Skanderberg says nothing about Illyrians. He does talk about Epirotes as the elders of his people and also his ancestors following the macedonians of Alexander but this is a kind of anachronism. Like many did during the middle ages Skanderberg claimed ancestry to the ancients to signify the historical and cultural significance of his people.
Modern scholarship agrees that the first albanian nomadic groups migrated south into Epirus only by the late 13th to early 14th century only permanently settling in the northen, north-western parts on mountainous regions from where they eventually spread their dominion assimilating a lot of the greek speaking population.
Albanians have an actually interesting history so I don't understand why you always try to still the heritage of your neighbours and distort historical facts. Come on balkaners you can do better than that...
"There were no noticeable Albanian - speaking communities in the cities of the Albanian coast throughout the Middle Ages. Durrës was inhabited by the Venetians, Greeks, Jews, and Slavs; Shkodra by the Venetians and Slavs; and Vlora by the Byzantine Greeks. Names of towns and rivers in Albania, always a good indicator of settlement patterns, are to a surprising extent Slavic. It is thought that a considerable proportion of the Albanians had already been assimilated by the eve of the Turkish invasion."
Robert Elsie - Historical Dictionary of Albania 2010 , 2nd Edition 20 : 44/40 : 17- Documents About Skanderbeg > Was Skanderbeg ? Factual Data Exposes The Hidden Truth
Assimilated doesn’t mean they aren’t Albanian lol , and durres and shkodra have proto Albanian etymology’s so think about what you are saying here lol
Great video
Can you make a tutorial video on how to make videos like this please?
Bravo 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Albanian propaganda is getting crazier. Constantine the Great was half Greek and identified as Greek. Justinian was an Italian.
Yet both were born in Dardania. Believe what ever tickels you but calling facts as propaganda is blatantly ignorant.
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle there place of birth does not decide their ethnicity. “Dardania” doesn’t even have a fully agreed upon status as an Albanian ancestor.
@@thebalkanhistorian.3205 Tell that to geneticists, archaeologists, anthropologists and linguists, who claim the Dardani-Albanian cohesive connection.
@@ChildrenOfTheEagle Ok tell that to the rest that disagree. The connection is not proven yet, it is still debated by scholars.
Disagreeing is one thing but what counter arguments have been proven by the "none believers"?
Unfortunately this is incorrect, the double headed eagle was inherited from the Byzantines as a Greek Orthodox symbol
Its an illyrian dardanian symbol since 3000 years ago
@@alboboss5485😅😅😅😅
You don't know the history of how adopted this byzantine flag
What nonsense you say😅😅😅
@@Usera2324dfre Byzantine flag was taken from Illyrians. The byzantine king was of the Albanian Origin and not a fake greek
@@Usera2324dfrehe is partially right and so are you, why? Because it was already in the pagans beliefs of Illyrians but it wasn’t among major symbols until it became more important to the point it was adopted because of the Byzantine
Look to the end of the video then you know wjerr we got the eagle from 🤣🤣🤣
great video
THERANDA DARDANIA ALBANIAN ❤
Pyrrhus I or Pyrrhus of Epirus (318 BC - 272 BC) was a Greek king of the Molossians, a Greek tribe who lived in Epirus, as well as one of the greatest rulers of the early Hellenistic period.
He was the son of King Aiakides, who ruled from 330 to 313 BC, and Phthia II.
Dude, these are Albanians.... they don't care about history. They are fanatics, lunatics who want to live in their dreams, thus they fabricate their own pseudohistories just like the Skopjans next to them. You need to understand that we talk of a nation that has as its "national hero" Georgios Kastriotis, a Greek from father/grandfather and Serbian from mother, Albanian possibly only from grandma who fought against the muslim Turks..... when 80% of modern Albanians (Albania and Kosovo) are of muslim background and fought against the Christians on every single war including today (e.g. Albanians were the No1 European nationality members of ISIS in Syria). So much respect they have to their "national hero" that when Erdogan, president of Turkey, visited Tirana they had to cover the statue of their national hero in order to not provoke him !!! You can't make that sh*t up!
You are not going to find logic among these people. You are not talking to them, you are talking to their complexes of inferiority.
Lmao typical Greek nationalists. Can't go a day without leaving hateful comments under Albanian history videos 😂
Albania is an autochthonous people that has been fighting for its freedom and independence for centuries against enemies and oppressors of all kinds: the Albanians: Through all the struggles and all the historical upheavals, this people has retained its originality; Neither the migration of peoples nor the battles with Greeks, Serbs, Turks and other conquerors and oppressors were able to prevent the Albanians from maintaining their uniqueness pure and unadulterated in race and language, in customs and manners.
Historian - Hanslörg Frommer
Today only the Albanians, with their independent language, see themselves as descendants of the Illyrians.
Historian -Theodor Mommsen
was a German historian and is considered one of the most important antiquarians of the 19th century. The only Nobel Prize winner for literature. The brave ones from Epirus are the Albanians from antiquity, loyal, courageous traditional people whose flag has always been their eagle.
Karl Kaser - historian
Sees today's Albanians as the descendants of the remaining non-romanized Illyrian population. To support his view, he cites results from Albanian archeology and linguistics
Johann Georg von Hahn
Josef ritter von xylander historian
These two represent the thesis of the autochthonous nature of today's Albanians, which is linked to the Pelasgians
The Albanians have a language completely different from that of the Latins, Greeks and Slavs, so they cannot communicate in any way with other peoples".
Historian - Jakob Philipp Fallmerayer
There is a people on the Illyrian Peninsula whose language, in its structure and core, bears not the slightest resemblance to either Greek, Turkish or the Slavic dialects spoken today in most of south east europe.
@@southepirote7676 Quoting 19th century pseudohistorians and their champion Fallmy won't do you any goood. Albanians are not only the most mixed up group in the Balkans with wide variations in terms of genetics (ranging from Greek-like to Serbian-like) but their language is also a mashup which of course has not a single sign of having even the slightest connection wiith Illyrian. Albanian is clearly a language that arrived in the Balkans pretty much at the same era the Slavic languages arrived.
@@dinos9607 Greeks are genetically a mix of various races such as Turks, Vlachs and Slavs. The ancestors of Greeks are not from Greece but most likely from Bulgaria.
Bravo❤
If you want to find the artefacts from Ilirian times you need to ask serbia, if you want to find the artefacts from Pellasgët times you need to ask the greece.
Once you get these two countries to show the truth history you will find that Albania is the biggest country in Balkan.
Thank goodness for your hard working.
Because there was only serbia and Greece, you are not Ilirians nor Greeks.
@@Forevertrue-z2wwhat a joke
Super interedante
Illyrians Pelasgians Greek tribes. Albanian flag has similar eagle as Byzantine flag. Falsification of history....
The place called Greece never existed before as we know it today. The people who live in so called Greece today used to be called "Romej" during Byzantine Empire and "Raja" during Ottoman Empire times (except the Arvanitas who used to be called always by their name like "Albani", "Arbanoi", etc.) and the name "Greece" never existed during Byzantine times.
The people who live in the so called Greece today are NOT the descendants of ancient Greece (as the world history knows it). That ancient culture and civilization, went extinct times ago, like many other ancient civilizations (like Latin civilization as well, language of which is spoken only in the certain official religious ceremonies in Vatican today and for international medical terminology).
During Ottoman times in the Balkans, after the big powers pushed for an uprising in the place that today is called "Greece", an independent country was formed in 1821-1832. The majority of the population there was of Arvanitas (and Chameria) stock, they also were the backbone of the uprising for independence from the Ottoman Empire. The rest of the minority population was of Slav, Turks and Aromanian stock.
After the gain of independence the place was so divided, and with a prolonged civil war that a real country could not be formed.
Fearing the disintegration of the place after Ottomans left (and possibility of a return of the Ottomans), Prince Otto of Germany was brought in by European powers to clear the mess and do nation - building there. He was proclaimed King of the place by big powers and given plenipotentiary powers.
The Price Otto royal family in Germany happen to be an admirer of the ancient civilizations, one of them being the extinct ancient Greek civilization, traces and archeological findings of which are also seen in that region called today
"Greece" as well.
Being an ancient history romantic and buff, Otto came up with the idea, that the only way to keep the place together and for a chance to build a country there, was to adopt/impose some kind of neutral/foreign ancient language and culture
for all people living in that place, that will make possible for the people to stick together under one language and culture imposed on them.
So with a special royal decree, he proclaimed a version of the ancient Greek (the easier one to be taught and learned by people there in those times) as an official language of the place, and also came up with the new name for the
place, calling it with a special royal decree "Greece".
Everything else was banned, and the new "country" formed, was ordered to be rebuild anew in resemblance of the old romantic view of the ancient Greek civilization, starting with the buildings, names of people, places, cities and villages, regions, mountains, fields and all were changed to made-up names loaned by the ancient literature of ancient Greek
civilization.
This of course was associated with money brought by European powers to rebuild. The more people in that place agreed with the change of their true national and ethnic identity and declare themselves artificially "Greeks/Helenes" and adopt to the new order, the more money was to be pouring in.
Naturally, the strongest resistance to this artificial and made-up solution, was made by the Arvanitas (and Chameria), but at no avail.
It is legendary, the loss by one vote in the Price Otto's Parliament of that time, of Arvanitas proposal to have the Albanian
(Arvanite) language as an official language of the place called 'Greece" today, and to call the new country "Arvanoi" (instead of "Greece").
There is plenty of scientific and factual evidence, archival and historical documents, as well as studies and publications by major authors and authorities in the field about as above.
One interesting fact here, is that one of the earlier German/Austrian well known historians and scientists of that time, Fallmerayer, alerted Prince Otto and others to this nonsense, of declaring a whole people and place by a
name not belonging to them, and injecting an extinct language, culture and civilization on people who had no idea about it and did not belong to it at all. Well, Fallmerayer may have proven to be right.
By the way, Fallmerayer, is a banned figure and historian in what is called Greece today.
Germany is still paying for the Otto's mistake, even today. It has gotten stuck with the country so called "Greece". It is now forced to pour free money, even today, out of Germany's pocket (through European Union as well) year after year to keep it alive and going, as this "Greece" cannot stand on its own. It is an artificial creation of Prince Otto's fantasy (a "zombie" country so to speak), and the new generations of the Germans and Europeans are continuing to pay the price for it.
Moreover, what Prince Otto did back then, is tantamount to ethnic cleansing. He forced inhabitants of a whole region/place (called "Greece" today) to change by force their culture, language, national and ethnic identity to something
else that those people were not, so they could artificially change in order to look modern and civilized (like ancient Greeks in Otto's personal view) and possibly be united. And of course, Arvanites and Chams (as the majority population in the region) suffered mostly from this ethnic cleansing.
All this revelation, informs another major point: history taught about what today is called Greece, it appears to be taught wrong. People are wrongly taught in schools that today's Greece and its people are the direct descendants of ancient Greeks. Greece and Greeks of today, in some extend, also think they are superior to others just because they are called
"Greeks" and their country "Greece" by decree (not by the virtue of the truth). They also seem to believe for some reason, they are entitled to the German and European money being handed out to them.
The school textbooks and historiography should change, telling people the truth as it is. And with this, will come many other changes, in the way we see relations with the country called "Greece" today
Plisi, historia mijëraveçare që tregon lidhjen e vjetër të shqiptarëve me tokën dhe Zotin / Tirana Today
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Plisi (Pileus) Shqiptare dhe origjina e tij / Adrian Illyrian
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Gjuha e Homerit e flasin Shqiptarët pa qënë në dijeni. / N'mesterrit Shqip
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Gjuha e Homerit, Homer language / ILLYRICUMSACRUM
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Arvanite - Fustanella / King Bardhuli
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Alvanoi - Arvanites - Shqipetar - fustanella (Skai new documentary 1821)albanian subs / Axeldevil
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Helene Ahrweiler: Arvanites or Albanians of Greece / ALB GOD
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Ishalla nuk na thon "Mali Tomorrit eshte greek " se jua mer dreqi shpirtin 😂😂😂😂😂
Per ironi te fatit kane nje mal qe quhet tomaros dhe aty sipas tyre eshte tempulli i dodones
Te lutem o atedhetare,,gjirin e nénés,,, pellazgo ilire,,eshte e verteta,,e te pa thena,,
Have you ever wondered why there are no ancient Illyrian writers?
Why there are only Greek-Roman ancient monuments and temples in Albania and no Illyrian?
Why the modern scientific community and linguists do not find any connection between the Illyrian language and the Albanian language?
Wtf are you saying hahahhaha
Shut up and go back to sleep
The notion of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes has been a persistent narrative, often used to foster a sense of unity and historical continuity. However, a closer examination reveals the complexity and diversity within the Greek population, challenging the simplistic portrayal of ethnic homogeneity and direct lineage from the ancient Hellenes.
To begin with, Greece has been a crossroads of various civilizations throughout history, including interactions with Albanians, Romans, Byzantines, Ottomans, and others. This rich history of cultural exchanges has inevitably left an imprint on the ethnic composition of the region. Genetic studies indicate a diversity of influences, reflecting the historical interactions and migrations that have shaped the genetic makeup of the Greek people. This diversity challenges the notion of a singular, homogeneous ethnic origin.
Moreover, the concept of ethnicity itself is complex and dynamic. It is not solely determined by genetic factors but is also influenced by cultural, linguistic, and historical elements. While the Hellenes were indeed one of the ancient tribes in the region, claiming a direct ethnic lineage from them oversimplifies the intricate processes of cultural assimilation, intermixing, and acculturation that have occurred over centuries.
Language, often considered a key marker of ethnic identity, also presents complexities. The modern Greeks language belongs to the Indo-European family but is distinct within this linguistic group. While it has roots in the Hellenic language, linguistic evolution and influences from Latin, Slavic, and other languages have contributed to its unique character. This linguistic complexity challenges the notion of a straightforward, unbroken linguistic continuity between ancient Hellenic and modern Greek.
Historical records further complicate the narrative of ethnic homogeneity. The region has witnessed migrations, invasions, and changes in political control, all of which have contributed to the diversity within the Greek population. The medieval period, for example, saw the influx of various groups, including Slavs and Normans, leaving lasting cultural and genetic impacts.
In conclusion, the idea of Greeks being ethnically homogenous and direct descendants of the Hellenes is a simplistic narrative that does not fully capture the complexity of Greece's history and the diversity within its population. Genetic, linguistic, and historical evidence points to a more nuanced and multifaceted reality, highlighting the need to approach the question of Greek identity with a recognition of the intricate processes of cultural evolution and interaction that have shaped the region over millennia.
@@southepirote7676
It is scientifically documented that at least 3700 years ago in the Greek peninsula there was a presence of people who spoke the Greek language and had common customs and traditions. These people were named by various ancient Greek writers as :
1.Graekoi (considered the older name ruclips.net/video/aQJ2tpcZQ8U/видео.html )
2.Achaeans
3.Argives
4.Danaans
5.Hellenes
6.Dorians
7.Aeolians
8.Ionians.
All these tribes made up the Greek ethnos .Ethnos from verb "ἔθω" meaning custom ,morality.LIDDELL & SCOTT dictionary.
Notice the difference of the word ethnos and the word nation.Naton , from Latin "natio" meaning birth ,a common racist genetic origin.
Even today the Epirotans ,Macedonians,Arvanite ,sud Thracians,Thessalians,Cretans ,Pontic,Peloponesians, Cypriots made up the Greek ethnos.All of them have Greek consciousness.
Even Giannis Antetokounmpo considers himself Greek and everyone respects it.
The racist mentality and racist attitude of some Albanians is nothing but laughable.
@@southepirote7676
It is scientifically documented that at least 3700 years ago in the Greek peninsula there was a presence of people who spoke the Greek language and had common customs and traditions. These people were named by various ancient Greek writers as :
1.Graekoi (considered the older name ruclips.net/video/aQJ2tpcZQ8U/видео.html )
2.Achaeans
3.Argives
4.Danaans
5.Hellenes
6.Dorians
7.Aeolians
8.Ionians.
All these tribes made up the Greek ethnos .Ethnos from verb "ἔθω" meaning custom ,morality.LIDDELL & SCOTT dictionary.
Notice the difference of the word ethnos and the word nation.Naton , from Latin "natio" meaning birth ,a common racist genetic origin.
Even today the Epirotans ,Macedonians,Arvanite ,sud Thracians,Thessalians,Cretans ,Pontic,Peloponesians, Cypriots made up the Greek ethnos.All of them have Greek consciousness.
Even Giannis Antetokounmpo considers himself Greek and everyone respects it.
The racist mentality and racist attitude of some Albanians is nothing but laughable.
@@wardafournello the Greek language was dominant at that time and was often used to communicate with other people who belonged to other nations. It was same as English is used today. That doesn’t mean that Illyrians didn’t have their own language. They had a language, their own culture and civilization, their own kings and queens, etc.
As for the connection of the language, all languages evolve with time, but linguistics say Albanian language is the closest one to the Messapic and Illyrian. Many names, places, names of the Illyrian kings and queens have a meaning in Albanian language. Most of the proof is destroyed or stolen intentionally. Some are destroyed during strong earthquakes in the area and by the non ending wars in this area. Illyrians and Albanians have been in constant battles and wars with other nations for as long as it can be said. Albania 🇦🇱 only after the World War Two didn’t have any wars.