How Project M Saved Many Mid to Low Tiers

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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  • @21Handguns
    @21Handguns 5 месяцев назад +101

    Brawl mods continue to prove when it comes to actual love and passion, no one does it better than the community for it and most likely will remain the most dedicated and passionate modding community for any of the games in the series.

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 5 месяцев назад +3

      I'm just glad they continue to mod it specifically since I enjoy its aesthetic the most. Giving a bright and colorful cast a dirty grungy tone was pretty experimental at the time

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@_G.C honestly based. Besides Mario and Luigi's weird realistic overalls, making all the characters go into a slightly more mature style while not losing elements of what made them who they are is definitely very difficult and so easy to mess up, but they nailed it easily.
      Id rather have a semi realistic smash with actual detailed effects than the shit uktimate is doing thats for surr

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@21Handguns My thing with ultimate is how washed out some of the colors look, like pikachu or zelda. On certain maps they look bleached almost, not to mention the switch not being able to handle advanced lighting so when you look closer at some models the shadows look really pixelated

    • @21Handguns
      @21Handguns 5 месяцев назад

      @@_G.C yeah a lot of the colors are washed out and models are not as detailed/shaded properly loke they were in sm4sh.the effects went from explosive realism to 2d anime slash effects like bruh. I get probably because its a handheld and they needed to make over 60+ characters so in that context its okay but still
      Maybe we are just nostalgic af but idk. All the old smash games before 4 and ultimate had charm or magic in them. The new ones not so much unfortunately

    • @_G.C
      @_G.C 5 месяцев назад

      @@21Handguns Not to mention how are they going to follow up on it? They called it smash ultimate, included the most characters and stages to date, and basically jumped the shark as a whole. The main thing I could see them doing is rebooting it with less characters, more refined and updated movesets, and just overhauls in general when needed

  • @Spencer-sn8cz
    @Spencer-sn8cz 5 месяцев назад +67

    Everyday I close my eyes and hope that when I open them back up... Smash Ultimate Squirtle would be even half as cool as PM+ Squirtle.

    • @Pyrozard
      @Pyrozard 5 месяцев назад +6

      Feel the EXACT same for my boy Charizard.
      Hope in the next smash game they separate Pokémon trainer and give each pokemon more love.

    • @triple-d2640
      @triple-d2640 5 месяцев назад +1

      I hope there is a next​@@Pyrozard

    • @SimoneBellomonte
      @SimoneBellomonte 5 месяцев назад +6

      @@PyrozardNah keep Pokémon Trainer as is his swap character mechanics is really cool.

    • @sablesalt
      @sablesalt 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@SimoneBellomonte for being barely functional?

    • @yungmuney5903
      @yungmuney5903 5 месяцев назад +6

      That would ruin the whole point of their inclusion that you mine as well get rid of the second Ice climber. Smash ultimate pretty much perfected the pokemon trainer idea, considered to be one of the best designed characters.

  • @StanleySophana
    @StanleySophana 5 месяцев назад +16

    3.0 Mewtwo definitely showed all of us that it was the world's strongest Pokemon

  • @projectz358
    @projectz358 5 месяцев назад +16

    The fan mod that made me wish ultimate was like this, proper buffs.

    • @forestskilbred9461
      @forestskilbred9461 5 месяцев назад +6

      You should check out HDR for Ultimate, it's basically that.

    • @projectz358
      @projectz358 5 месяцев назад +3

      @forestskilbred9461 HDR is so cool man.
      I can not go back to vanilla. Next smash game, I'm gonna wait for mods.

    • @nahor88
      @nahor88 4 месяца назад

      @@projectz358 Unfortunately, Nintendo won't allow it at majors, along with Smash Remix, a mod I'd argue is just as good as P+.
      It also desperately needs it's own version of Slippi like Melee. You have to find other people to play it. Combine that with the lack of large tournaments, and it makes it hard to justify investing a lot of time to play it seriously.
      Ultimate had the potential to be P+ if they just reverted to the Brawl/Melee physics engine and brought back the ability to do all the tech. They didn't even keep DACUS, the one cool advanced tech from Brawl.

    • @randompog8493
      @randompog8493 3 месяца назад +2

      ​@@projectz358I know right
      Actual combos for EVERY CHARACTER not just Mario and all the other brawlers and real non brawl hitstun
      I would play it if I wasn't afraid of bricking my switch or getting in hot water with my PC

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 2 месяца назад

      @@projectz358 Is movement more fluid than in Ultimate? I've always felt like Ultimate felt kinda stiff and rigid.

  • @FL-uj7cs
    @FL-uj7cs 5 месяцев назад +20

    I remember after one PM update I, a filthy casual, was playing a buffed Lucas against my competitive Fox/Falco-main friend. I beat him handily and he was speechless lmao. Funny memory.
    We need a part 2 with more characters!

  • @BigDnotimpressed
    @BigDnotimpressed 5 месяцев назад +4

    Bowser actually won the very first Project M Major. Via a player named Kirk at The Big House 3. He beat a player who eliminated Mew2King in the same tournament.

  • @brettmartens6253
    @brettmartens6253 5 месяцев назад +10

    Charizard was one of my favourite changed characters in Project M.
    I have so many memories of using the down b glide to chase opponents upward and glide around the stage. It's too bad none of the later iterations used this move.
    Then you add in his lanky tail attacks. Heat wave. Throw it in a pot. Baby, you got a stew going!
    Would love to see you cover charizard someday! But I can't complain too much since you already talked about my other two mains, DK and Mewtwo

    • @bobbob7885
      @bobbob7885 5 месяцев назад

      How do you feel about Thunder Punch in P+?

    • @brettmartens6253
      @brettmartens6253 5 месяцев назад

      Honestly I don't have much experience playing P+since they added that move. But it looks like a fun time! Maybe I should boot up the old wii again@@bobbob7885

  • @toastdtech3597
    @toastdtech3597 5 месяцев назад +7

    Now its time for the most balanced smash game, brawl minius

  • @TheGameShelf
    @TheGameShelf 5 месяцев назад +1

    Your channel has been showing up on my recommends a lot and honestly I enjoy your videos! They're very good man, keep it up

  • @Flare8295
    @Flare8295 5 месяцев назад +3

    PM/P+ made the best iteration for Ike & Sonic 2 of my favorite characters in this game

  • @riverguavs6139
    @riverguavs6139 5 месяцев назад +2

    I have had Project M for over years now and i still remember playing with my Dad on the game. Good times.

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 5 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I’m glad the RUclips algorithm blessed me with this.
    You should really make a video on all the improvements Project + gave characters.

  • @windindi2834
    @windindi2834 5 месяцев назад +5

    Interesting idea I've had for a video topic, so with Pokemon Trainer, it's obvious that Project M separated the trio because Brawl PT was awful, however with Ultimate PT showing how amazing they can be, it would be interesting to see what general opinions are regarding if they should be kept separate or if hey could work together.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl 5 месяцев назад +2

    Project M is my favorite smash game. Feels by far the most fluid to play and I only started playing it 1-2 months ago.

  • @spencermcbride3881
    @spencermcbride3881 7 дней назад

    I love project + bowser. He's so menacing with his sick command grabs. I love him

  • @CrumbCCM
    @CrumbCCM 5 месяцев назад +4

    Zelda is so underrated, wish people talked about her

  • @heyhey3335
    @heyhey3335 5 месяцев назад +3

    Bro i think if you made a how to guide for individual characters going super indepth that would be sick! Ness could be a good start

  • @thomario8638
    @thomario8638 5 месяцев назад +1

    Last day I played classic mode P+ with Ivysaur on Hard. Reached the last battle between Master Hand and Crazy Hand with only 2 out of 5 lives, I lost the first life early on. I had to take down 100hp of Master and 200hp of Crazy without f*cking dying and dodging a lot...
    *somehow I pulled it off.* mainly thanks to the directional airdodge.

  • @Solharath
    @Solharath 5 месяцев назад +1

    Sonic may be great in P+, but he's definitely not the Top 5 character he's made out to be on the tier list. Great video as always.

  • @StarForceBelmont321
    @StarForceBelmont321 5 месяцев назад +2

    Yo Zach im curious if you ever seen a low tier bottom tier or mid tier get OVER BUFFED
    thats a unique idea characters who were awful in their debut game but became A MENACE in future games resulting in people hating fighting them
    Aka Roy Sonic, Pac Man, Mega Man,.ROB Palutena and Shulk

    • @verde7595
      @verde7595 Месяц назад

      Ult 1.0 Pichu comes to mind.

  • @JAMllostthegame
    @JAMllostthegame 4 месяца назад

    I remember being excited when I realized what jumping out of QD meant. Another change to QD that I don't think I saw mentioned was how you have the option of not swinging the sword, making it less vulnerable as a recovery tool and made it work well with having the option to jump out of it. Also the fully charged OHKO existing was pretty funny.
    But the most important change of all was giving Ike his blue flames. P:M did it before Sm4sh and I'll take that as the biggest W for the community over the official games.

  • @CorbinLeonard-rp4et
    @CorbinLeonard-rp4et 5 месяцев назад +2

    Man if i make a smash bros mod it will characters from smash remix super smash flash 2 project m and + it will be call super smash bros omaga

  • @sickomode5000
    @sickomode5000 5 месяцев назад +1

    wow, didnt know u made music. i gave it a listen shits actually pretty good

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  5 месяцев назад +2

      ayy thank you! Hope you like it! Worked real hard on the album Sapphire, thank you!

  • @FransenYT
    @FransenYT 5 месяцев назад +1

    Loved the video man, always good to learn more about P+.
    How did you get the brawl characters in a green screen to remove it in editing? Is it a gecko code in dolphin?

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 2 месяца назад

      I'm guessing it's a mod.

    • @FransenYT
      @FransenYT 2 месяца назад

      @@LloydTheZephyrian would love to get my hands on that mod, I've been searching for a while but couldn't find anything

  • @stopanimatecreep3400
    @stopanimatecreep3400 5 месяцев назад +1

    Video Request: “How Spider-Man got into Smash Remix”

  • @Mrnotpib
    @Mrnotpib 4 месяца назад

    0:01 Dk: You guys got games on your phone?

  • @purplepudding9384
    @purplepudding9384 5 месяцев назад +1

    Impatient waiting room for Brawlback

  • @borkbork9541
    @borkbork9541 5 месяцев назад

    I remember messing around with pm3.6 bowsers pac file when I wasn't satisfied with how he played. Pretty happy with him now though I wish aerial koopa claw dthrow had better base knockback

  • @The_Golden_Pepper
    @The_Golden_Pepper 5 месяцев назад

    3:00 i was bot ready to see Cine there

  • @miguelsi7543
    @miguelsi7543 5 месяцев назад

    More content about my favorite game of all time? Yes please! 😍

  • @vengefulfork7169
    @vengefulfork7169 5 месяцев назад +1

    Project M really was something. Such a shame

  • @Oct_sflb
    @Oct_sflb 5 месяцев назад

    3:09 I felt this, immensely

  • @127marq
    @127marq 5 месяцев назад +1

    Mewtwo isn’t a light weight he’s floaty. Fastfallers can survive vertical kill moves easier that a floaty. Bowser despite being the heaviest character dies earlier to a fox up smash compared to falcon because bowser is more floaty that falcon

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 2 месяца назад

      Lol right. The information is wrong. And fox is also a lightweight but he survives much longer because he falls like deadweight

  • @Bombermanfan95
    @Bombermanfan95 5 месяцев назад +4

    Nintendo needs to write notes down on how you can make a heavy good.

    • @GlitchanBlack
      @GlitchanBlack 5 месяцев назад +1

      I mean, they are willing to, but Japanese copyright is preventing them.

    • @PaperGraysterYT
      @PaperGraysterYT 5 месяцев назад

      my idea is make them suffer less hitstun so they’re not combo food and buff their recoveries

  • @theuproar3914
    @theuproar3914 5 месяцев назад

    Dude reminds me of j1mmy, now we need a by release smash series

  • @treezlechez3011
    @treezlechez3011 5 месяцев назад

    When are you streaming?

  • @OCELOT_2221
    @OCELOT_2221 4 месяца назад

    MUSIC AT THE START PLEASE I FORGET IT 😭

  • @Evixyn
    @Evixyn 5 месяцев назад

    Lunchables

  • @sablesalt
    @sablesalt 5 месяцев назад

    Feel like it should be noted more often that p+ has the largest viable cast of any smash scene, says alot considering it outnumbers the game with 100 characters.

  • @TheTrixster690
    @TheTrixster690 5 месяцев назад

    Please do more videos.

  • @Miphos
    @Miphos 5 месяцев назад

    YOSHI WHERE

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 5 месяцев назад

    I wish I could play project + 😭 I want to soooo bad

  • @silvesta5027
    @silvesta5027 5 месяцев назад

    I just realised this guy looks like the Jamaican white dude who does prank videos

  • @666blaziken
    @666blaziken 5 месяцев назад

    Looking forward to more videos like this

  • @danielapirisi6243
    @danielapirisi6243 4 месяца назад

    Project M is the most balanced game, all of the characters are balanced, for example: the bottom tier characters in project M are still viable characters, just not as much as the other characters

    • @lapplandkun9273
      @lapplandkun9273 2 месяца назад

      So basically Ultimate but Melee's engine. Proves Melee players exactly that their game not needing patches is ridiculous because Project M is Melee but better

  • @sleepy9102
    @sleepy9102 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks dude you are a beast.

  • @Akuretaki_Nikolay
    @Akuretaki_Nikolay 5 месяцев назад

    seqal

  • @keybladeapologist.1131
    @keybladeapologist.1131 5 месяцев назад

    I hate ikes forward air. Me and my brother play project plus for fun every once in a while and that stupid move is like the freest ledge guard tool and I hate it

    • @ZachHonest
      @ZachHonest  5 месяцев назад +1

      Bro Ikes sword is so massive. I don't care if it sounds weird it's just true.