HOW COULD YOU I TRUSTED YOU - PART SIX - Professional Composer + Vocalist Reacts - Hamilton

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  • Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2024

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  • @rhianbeam1766
    @rhianbeam1766 17 дней назад +82

    Hi Nick! This is something productions do often! Where main characters who are no longer needed for the plot, the actors switch to new main characters.

    • @alishagrossman4080
      @alishagrossman4080 17 дней назад +10

      Yes, this! Peggy died young. Lafayette went back to France. Laurens (obviously) died right after the war. And, Mulligan went back to being a tailor after the war.

    • @radicaledward84
      @radicaledward84 16 дней назад +2

      @@alishagrossman4080 Peggy died later in the story (I don't mention this to be picky but just because not everyone knows Peggy's death is why Eliza is wearing black during a certain reprise later in act 2: Peggy died within the year - don't trust the people saying she was coming back from Peggy's funeral, that's misinformation - and Eliza was still mourning).

    • @kendrascott8083
      @kendrascott8083 15 дней назад

      @@radicaledward84thank you! This is new information for a play I’ve listened to 100’s of times.

  • @drummergirl2319
    @drummergirl2319 17 дней назад +47

    Nick, watching Alexander micro-cheating with Angelica via letters: I HATE THIS OMIGOSH I HATE THIS IT'S LIKE WATCHING A TRAIN WRECK I HATE THIS.
    Nick, watching Alexander macro-cheating with Maria Reynolds: I LOVE THIS I LOVE THIS I LOVE THIS!!!

  • @Huntress59
    @Huntress59 17 дней назад +50

    He cracks me up when he gets so lost in the beat that he doesn’t even hear the words.

    • @axsdeny
      @axsdeny 17 дней назад +18

      LOL It's so frustrating. I'm like "YOU'RE MISSING SO MUCH!"

    • @anissat-tech
      @anissat-tech 17 дней назад +15

      Why am I yelling at him to BE QUIET and pay attention in one moment and cracking up in the next

    • @FabulousFemFiend
      @FabulousFemFiend 17 дней назад

      Literally like "Who is this, who is that, whats happening?" DUDE!! Listen to the lyrics!!!

  • @em05490
    @em05490 17 дней назад +38

    The double casting of actors in two roles is not only for the sake of their 1st act characters being no longer needed but also does a good job of showing a parallels/contrast between the people around Hamilton during the war and after when he became a politican. If you want to see some really clever writing, I suggest re-listening to the opening where everyone is introducing themselves and suddenly you might see the double meanings in the phrases stated by those who are playing two roles. (Note: I’d recommend waiting until you get to at least It’s Quiet Uptown to check it out again.)

  • @MysticMyths
    @MysticMyths 17 дней назад +47

    The actress for Mariah Reynolds, Jasmine Cepha Jones, is Peggy from Act 1.
    Also they didn't cast a 9 year old as Phillip because that scene he raps is the only scene where he's 9.

  • @sarabearmcd9456
    @sarabearmcd9456 17 дней назад +25

    Chris Jackson's voice is like butter ... or a warm hug ... or a fuzzy blanket. I can't wait for you to get to "One Last Time".

  • @kngdmhrts
    @kngdmhrts 17 дней назад +18

    There was no romantic relations between Angelica and Hamilton that they could find. They were more like intellectual pen pals.

  • @Skye_Writer
    @Skye_Writer 16 дней назад +16

    Jefferson's song is not rock and roll, but specifically boogie-woogie/ragtime, which was chosen for 2 purposes: 1) ragtime is the grandfather of hip hop, so it's paying homage to those roots. And 2) Jefferson was about a decade older than Hamilton and he held more traditional/old fashioned views on things like class, status, and obviously race, so Lin-Manuel Miranda wanted him demonstrably "out of step" with Hamilton and the newly formed American sensibilities (which is why his choreography makes him look like he's running to catch up). All of the music styles Miranda used in the show -- R&B, Ragtime/Jazz, Hip Hop -- are uniquely and distinctly American in origin with the exception of King George's songs.

    • @radicaledward84
      @radicaledward84 16 дней назад +3

      Also, he missed the late '80s, so he's still listening to songs that were popular before rap. But he's a quick learner.

  • @amys7539
    @amys7539 17 дней назад +21

    Love how you're calling it a train wreck before Say No To This! Thing's get a whole load messier!

  • @fluterify
    @fluterify 17 дней назад +10

    The rap battle is a cabinet battle it is in front of the cabinet.

  • @carmen_says_hi
    @carmen_says_hi 15 дней назад +8

    You're allowed to both love and hate each character. They're human beings and have their flaws, but yes, Hamilton sucks for cheating on his wife. Also, take it easy on Angelica--she loves her sister way too much to betray her.
    Thanks for the new video!

  • @Zanilyme
    @Zanilyme 17 дней назад +8

    When i saw Hamilton in Sydney they had played on the fact that Philip was ‘nine’ and played by an adult by having his actor be incredibly tall, so when he said ‘And I just turned nine’ the actor stood all the way up and towered over everyone

    • @meagancall5005
      @meagancall5005 13 дней назад +2

      When I saw it in Cleveland they did the opposite, the actor playing Laurens/Philip just happened to be relatively short in stature, and the part where he runs to Alex and hugs him, they actually had him leap into his arms and get held like a kid for a couple seconds... it was very funny.

  • @michele6550
    @michele6550 12 дней назад +3

    One of my favorite little tidbits about this play is that Daveed Diggs said when he asked LMM how to portray Jefferson, Lin basically said In this play, Thomas Jefferson is Bugs Bunny!

  • @lostmyshoe2294
    @lostmyshoe2294 17 дней назад +11

    The Dr Horrible reference made me so happy. . . well about as happy as I can manage today.

    • @SeebsL
      @SeebsL 16 дней назад

      Any dolt with half a brain will spend his whole life howling in pain...

  • @HaphazardPeach
    @HaphazardPeach 16 дней назад +8

    @26:46 this is why a common reaction to the Circe Saga is "Hamilton could never."

    • @radicaledward84
      @radicaledward84 16 дней назад +3

      Credit where it's due: it was Mortius saying that.

    • @someothermon584
      @someothermon584 16 дней назад +2

      @@radicaledward84 I mean, I saw people saying this in the livestream chat for the Circe saga release, so I don't think it's a reaction specific to Mortius.

  • @Multi_Fandom_JAB
    @Multi_Fandom_JAB 17 дней назад +12

    Tomas Jefferson and Layffete are indeed both played by David Daveed, the person who plays Laurance also plays Hamilton's son Philip, James Madison is played by the same actor as Hurcules, and Mariah also plays Peggy, so yes, same actors :)

    • @RizzoF21344
      @RizzoF21344 17 дней назад +3

      Daveed Diggs is the actor but the rest yes.

    • @Multi_Fandom_JAB
      @Multi_Fandom_JAB 16 дней назад +1

      @@RizzoF21344 Oops my bad T^T idk names

  • @michaelakan4857
    @michaelakan4857 17 дней назад +9

    The actress playing Mariah also played Peggy the 3rd Schuyler sister. Some actors are playing double characters on the show. It's a standard stage practice.

  • @mithroch
    @mithroch 17 дней назад +14

    "Any dolt with half a brain can see that humankind has gone insane." You know... the year that came out I went to DragonCon and there were Dr. Horribles everywhere... but my favorites were the three that dressed up as the Bad Horse chorus cowboys. They would go around to every Dr. Horrible they could find and sing the Bad Horse song to them. GD brilliant.

    • @n4l9bx
      @n4l9bx 14 дней назад

      That's effin amazing 🤣

  • @stiletteleray1326
    @stiletteleray1326 17 дней назад +14

    Thanks for the reaction! This is definitely not a musical where you root for anyone 😅 everyone is flawed and was a pretty awful person irl.

  • @muffinamy83
    @muffinamy83 16 дней назад +4

    Pianist here, I'd say "What'd I Miss" is more boogie woogie than rock.

  • @johnobrien7562
    @johnobrien7562 16 дней назад +5

    Angelica Schuyler Church was one of the most brilliant women in the world, and corresponded with not only Hamilton, but Jefferson, Washington and Lafayette among others.
    We were told Hamilton was a "tomcat" back in Act 1. It's not surprising he was part of America's first sex scandal, is it.

  • @intodaysepisode...
    @intodaysepisode... 16 дней назад +4

    Oh I can't wait to see your reaction to the rest! Be prepared for tears!

  • @jvlw2001
    @jvlw2001 17 дней назад +19

    LoveloveLOVE your reaction!!! Maria Reynolds was Peggy in Act 1.

  • @mjgobet5601
    @mjgobet5601 15 дней назад +3

    Totally got the Dr. Horrible reference. And I agree! BTW - Jefferson & Franklin were in France helping them write their revolutionary papers. (so Jefferson's comment "what did I miss" is so true), They were first hand witnesses to the revolt that ended up killing King Louis XVI and Marie Antonette, which eventually led to the rise of Napoleon. Lafayette was playing both ends by helping the USA and France. ON a side note. Hubby and I own a hot air balloon. The first flight of a hot air balloon was in France in 1783, when Marie Antonette, Jefferson & Franklin along with 30,000 residents of Paris went out in the countryside to witness. There is a huge story behind that. Especially if you ignore the history books written by rich white guys.

  • @cmoplay1
    @cmoplay1 9 дней назад +1

    The real Angelica and Alexander were not lovers. They had an equal admiration and great fondness for one another.

  • @SeebsL
    @SeebsL 16 дней назад +7

    The status is...not...quo.
    I LOVE how caught up in the music you were that you missed the most explicit lyrics and were surprised that they kissed! I could not pay attention to how cool the music was until long after my first watch because i was full body cringing from the storytelling. You're talking about how the song is doing all the things it's not supposed to do and how nasty it is....the the characters are doing things they're not supposed to do and it's nasty.

  • @japangurl03
    @japangurl03 17 дней назад +4

    To answer the questions of this video
    1. why Rock N Roll?
    When Jefferson says, "I basically missed the late 80s", it is why he doesnt speak/sing/rap in the same way as the rest of the cast because he was in Paris. This song of Jefferson being in an 80s Jazz number and everyone else moved on to rap.
    2. George Washington as a singer?
    You have no idea how good a singer George Washington is....prepared to be blown away in future song.

  • @Ameria
    @Ameria 17 дней назад +5

    Haha, I really like that you're like "Why rock and roll?" for Jefferson and then immediately the song explains Lin's reasoning for it. "I guess I basically missed the late 80s" - He was away for the revolution, so they're musically showing that he's currently out of touch with the more hip-hop stylings of the revolutionaries and he needs to catch up on what he missed.

  • @chadoakley8505
    @chadoakley8505 15 дней назад +4

    It so hurt watching you dislike Alexander for flirting with Angelica and not going with his wife, knowing what was coming in the next scene...

  • @yonukdeh
    @yonukdeh 17 дней назад +7

    Props for the Dr Horrible reference! 😊

  • @deedee67888
    @deedee67888 17 дней назад +5

    I get that you're focused on the music, but you really have to pay more attention to the lyrics!

  • @ms_scribbles
    @ms_scribbles 17 дней назад +5

    It's 1789, not 1779, and they're doing the rap battle in front of Congress. It's supposed to replicate Congressional debates.

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles 17 дней назад

      Yep, she played Peggy Schuyler in Act 1.

  • @fluterify
    @fluterify 17 дней назад +2

    Mariah Reynolds is played by the same actress as Peggy Schuyler in act I.

  • @Melseaburremucho
    @Melseaburremucho 16 дней назад +3

    I love watching you react and analyze everything so good but it makes me sooooo nervous that sometimes you don't pause the music to talk and you miss most of the things they're saying so you don't react to that :'(

  • @StoryMing
    @StoryMing 17 дней назад +3

    Same actors, now playing different characters!
    Re: George Washington’s voice- wait till you get to ‘One Last Time’
    No, I don’t think Angelica had any intention of trying to start an actual affair with Hamilton. She would not hurt her sister like that. (In real life, evidently they did in fact write rather flirty letters back and forth, with no evidence of anything further ever happening).

  • @indra7777777
    @indra7777777 15 дней назад +4

    Hi Nick! I really enjoy your reactions! Just one small thing: I think you would hear a lot more of the lyrics and stuff if you paused for your comments, it can be a little frustrating seeing you talk over so much of the text :)

  • @thatcrazychick3108
    @thatcrazychick3108 7 дней назад

    the show you’re talking about is WildnOut and yes it’s JUST like the cabinet battle😂

  • @tiredboi6726
    @tiredboi6726 17 дней назад +2

    Now I can say my joke from the first Hamilton video, Odysseus would never

    • @FlippMusic
      @FlippMusic  17 дней назад +1

      Oooo I remember thatttt yeepppp

  • @MewDenise
    @MewDenise 17 дней назад +4

    Washington and many others did not want any parties at all

  • @alesiaortego9715
    @alesiaortego9715 17 дней назад +4

    Hope you react to the mix tape,also the songs that were written but didn't get included in the musical and First Burn. I love your reaction videos!!

  • @Kimoraja497
    @Kimoraja497 17 дней назад +2

    Say no to this is my favorite as well.

  • @poo8220
    @poo8220 17 дней назад +2

    I literally saw the your other reaction to hamilton and was like "omg, he's not going to see act 2 coming", you in for a bad time if u like Alexander Hamilton in the musical

  • @Multi_Fandom_JAB
    @Multi_Fandom_JAB 17 дней назад +2

    I was laughing so hard when Philip said he was nine, your reaction was perfect.
    21:02 AHH THE EPIC REFRENCE WAS PERECT

  • @ekaproxy
    @ekaproxy 17 дней назад +1

    For What Did I Miss, the music is different because LMM wanted to make it seem like Thomas Jefferson missed out on things in France and had to catch up. “I missed the late 80s” so it was more jazz and he missed the era of rap beginning with the rest of them.

  • @braydonegan1240
    @braydonegan1240 17 дней назад +1

    Love your reaction!
    To help piece who’s who:
    Laffeyt is now Thomas Jefferson
    Molagahn is now James Madison
    Laurens is now Philip Hamilton.
    Peggy Schuyler is now Mira Reynolds
    I hope that helps.🙂

    • @ms_scribbles
      @ms_scribbles 17 дней назад +2

      *Lafayette
      *Mulligan
      *Maria Reynolds
      Otherwise, correct!

    • @braydonegan1240
      @braydonegan1240 17 дней назад

      @ Thank you, I can never spell their names correctly lol 😂

  • @beroulina
    @beroulina 14 дней назад +1

    10:57 Do you mean Epic rap battles of history (@ERB)? Greetings from a Hamilton and ERB fan 😁

  • @TheDisappointingGamer
    @TheDisappointingGamer 16 дней назад +3

    I love your reactions, i dont mined it when you pause but can you just rewined a little bit before replaying as some times you pause on great moments, and sometimes you miss important points

    • @FlippMusic
      @FlippMusic  16 дней назад +3

      @@TheDisappointingGamer I used to and I’m sorry I disappointed you.
      I thought it was slowing things down too much to go back so I stopped but I liked it more cause I would get back in the groove. Thanks for the feedback!

  • @maryannazurin2322
    @maryannazurin2322 16 дней назад +2

    Love dr horrible! Love both actors - was the only reason i even watched, but ended up loving the songs and the story!

  • @axsdeny
    @axsdeny 17 дней назад

    Love that you mentioned the Jackbox game. I played Mad Verse City on my Twitch stream for like two years on every Monday. LOL

  • @thatcrazychick3108
    @thatcrazychick3108 7 дней назад

    the fact that you aren’t hearing a single word is so crazy 😭

  • @Phelddagrif1998
    @Phelddagrif1998 17 дней назад +2

    I don’t know what happened in the ladder part of the video after Say No To This but it seemed to have added the content from last video. maybe Nick messed something up and editing but I’m not sure.

    • @JaggerG
      @JaggerG 17 дней назад

      I think he just meant to get the clip of him saying "Does he suck?" And forgot to end the clip

  • @Jangz08
    @Jangz08 17 дней назад +9

    Oh man, I love your reactions but you miss so many lyrics when u talk over it... lol

    • @carbramsgo
      @carbramsgo 17 дней назад +2

      that’s what i was thinking

    • @carolinehaf21
      @carolinehaf21 17 дней назад +2

      I kinda like he doesn't stop a lot... there's more of spontaneity in his reaction to the music... remember we've all seen it a million times and didn't pick up on everything straight away! The joy is the beat drops/changes/realising the motifs/making connections and just saying what he loves about the music in general... I adore his reactions actually! The realising of who is an incredible performer as the songs go on etc. It's hard to take it all in the first time! I love his reactions though for this... the focus on the music. When Flip says it's NASTY, so am I (and I've seen it a million times!) There's still a joy about how this was composed :) It took me a couple watches to realise this was Peggy bc was so entranced I the song but hated him for cheating lol

    • @Jangz08
      @Jangz08 17 дней назад +1

      @carolinehaf21 that's true, I guess I'm a sucker for lyrics lol

    • @anissat-tech
      @anissat-tech 17 дней назад +1

      It irks me a bit…. he’s gonna have to go back a few more times to really get it… he’s missing so much!!!

  • @felixhenson9926
    @felixhenson9926 14 дней назад +1

    'why rock n roll here' it's more jazz/boogie-woogie, the predecessors to hiphip/ rap. It's to show he's behind the times/ old fashioned. And yes, more or less every actor/ actress is double cast in this show. And it isn't bc they were less educated in the south, it's yet another reminder that Hamilton writes just TOO much

  • @LiorielParx
    @LiorielParx 5 дней назад

    FYI after your video's timestamp of 32:16 where it's supposed to end, It continues by jumping back to an earlier video of yours

  • @fynchbird
    @fynchbird 15 дней назад

    You said you were familiar with Sondheim’s Into the Woods - that musical also famously has double casting, it happens in musical theater really frequently😗

    • @FlippMusic
      @FlippMusic  15 дней назад

      @@fynchbird Heard the music but never saw it D:

    • @beansfriend7033
      @beansfriend7033 11 дней назад +1

      ​@FlippMusic, If you ever watch it (and I'd recommend that), please please please watch the pro shot and not the abysmal Disney movie adaptation. Some of Disney's changes really murder character development ... and that's for the characters they don't omit altogether.

  • @WARdROBEPlaysWWII
    @WARdROBEPlaysWWII 3 дня назад

    19:14 the difference, in this era, punctuation and words did matter. So punctuation placement may have actually meant something.
    Whereas now, most comments are written with little regard to the rules.
    This comment probably has a million errors.

  • @jmoy85
    @jmoy85 15 дней назад

    Are you thinking of the rap battles on Robot Chicken?

  • @RubberSleds
    @RubberSleds 17 дней назад +1

    Tootsie Pop.

  • @JoannaDaCosta70
    @JoannaDaCosta70 5 дней назад

    Angelica's song is one of my favorites. Stop talking through it. Argh! You can read Alexander and Angelica's letters. They are very flattering, but Eliza is aware of those letters, as she writes onto the bottom of some of them.

  • @marc68521
    @marc68521 17 дней назад

    When it comes to the Robots Rapping are you talking about Jackbox games “Mad Verse City”
    If so I have never played it but have seen some people play it and it is hilarious

  • @meagancall5005
    @meagancall5005 13 дней назад +1

    I understood that reference. ;-)
    Side note: I'm not a historian so I'm talking out of my ass a little here, but I read somewhere that there's a fair amount of ambiguity about what the nature of Hamilton and Angelica's relationship actually was. Those letters (I believe) survived, and there's undoubtably a strong mutual flirtation. (side-side note: the same is said about his letters with Laurens, and likewise there's plenty of ambiguity about THAT relationship). I'm pretty sure there's been some speculation that Hamilton and Eliza may have had a (quietly) open marriage... and Eliza was completely aware of and, if not approving, that at least not disturbed about it?
    No idea how much real evidence there is for that, but without getting into spoilers for the show, I think (again, not an expert) the historical facts everyone does agree on regarding Angelica and Hamilton are that there was certainly a very close relationship with romantic elements. And that there was no sense of tension between Alexander and Eliza regarding that relationship. That doesn't prove they were in a full poly setup obviously, there are a lot of reasons that may have been the case. Maybe Eliza was just completely oblivious of how the two of them interacted (and since Angelica was in another country for much of the time, that's not impossible - obviously most of the evidence we have comes from the long distance communication, aka letters). It could have been that there wasn't really anything significant going on at all, and Alexander was just a ruthless flirt (which does seem to be true regardless of whether more was going on). Or it might be that Eliza was aware of his feelings for Angelica, and didn't exactly like it, but accepted it for reasons of her own.
    Edit: OK, I THOUGHT I read speculation about a consensual poly relationship, but I can't find any reference to it now, so I may have fully imagined it.

    • @meagancall5005
      @meagancall5005 13 дней назад +1

      Oh... and this is 3 days old so I'm sure someone else has already said it, but: "Have we seen her before?"
      ..."and Peggy!" Most underrated character transformation in the whole musical.
      🤣

  • @CrownedNatty
    @CrownedNatty 16 дней назад +1

    Lhomas Lefferson 😂

    • @LynxD007
      @LynxD007 12 дней назад +2

      Amari and Nick have been feeding me so well with their reactions

    • @CrownedNatty
      @CrownedNatty 12 дней назад +1

      @ I know I can’t get Amari’s quotes out of my head 😂

  • @AlisonBee
    @AlisonBee 12 дней назад

    Referencing so many musicals but no chat about Nobody Needs to know? Maybe last five years will be your next reaction :)

    • @FlippMusic
      @FlippMusic  12 дней назад

      @@AlisonBee Don’t know that one! :O

    • @AlisonBee
      @AlisonBee 12 дней назад

      @ so crazy! I figured with dr horrible, last five years would be given!! Lots of references to Ben folds in Hamilton too :)

  • @marc68521
    @marc68521 17 дней назад +1

    I always feel conflicted about Hamilton, his cheating, and everything.
    I was cheated on and I hate cheaters, but even then I forgave my Ex and I genuinely hope no one will ever hold it against them. To me beyond the cheating everything else about them was overall pretty great and while they weren’t a loyal person in our relationship I think it would be inaccurate and dishonest for me to ever say they are a bad person.

  • @drummergirl2319
    @drummergirl2319 17 дней назад

    "You could've gotten a nine-year-old..."
    Not for this musical! Are you kidding? At least when little kids are in PG-13 or R rated movies they don't have to watch the whole film afterwards. A child in this musical would be subjected to all the swearing and sexual themes of the entire play every performance! Absolutely not.

  • @WARdROBEPlaysWWII
    @WARdROBEPlaysWWII 3 дня назад

    19:14 the difference, in this era, punctuation and words did matter. So punctuation placement may have actually meant something.
    Whereas now, most comments are written with little regard to the rules.
    This comment probably has a million errors