Charging Lithium battery with wind | Off Grid Ham Shack
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- Опубликовано: 22 янв 2024
- In this video, we charge the lithium ( LiFePO4 ) battery powering the off-grid ham shack using a vertical-axis wind generator. Also covered are various methods of charging our solar battery storage, when there is no solar power for our ham radio station.
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Great video! Thanks for sharing!
Came for the wind and solar, and also enjoyed the closing comment!
Thank you 🙏
Very informative...thank you .i have been watching all your videos....from Toronto canada. Cheers.
Thank you 🙏
Just finished watching, now I'm headed to the blog. Thanks for sharing knowledge and wisdom. Now it's in our own hands to keep ourselves and our families safe.
Watching from south texas!! Thanks for the support
Been running a 100W panel, 20Ah battery and Genasun controller (at your recommendation) for almost 2 years now. Have a Buddipole Powerplus for power distribution and on grid charging (I rarely turn on my old DC power supply). Recently added a 12V MiniPC for digital modes and got off an old laptop. Probably need to upgrade my battery at some point for more capacity. I also charge my phone, tablet, CR123/AA/AAA batteries, etc on the system so almost all of my non-radio devices are also solar powered now. Noticed last year that my electric razor uses a 12V charger - been meaning to cut that cord and add an Anderson connector so I can shave via solar too. Adding wind is a great idea for these dreary winter days. Keep up the great work and stay warm! 73
I've never been a fan of wind power, but I used to be. Back in the 90's I put up an 84 foot tower with a 48vdc 3,000 watt Whisper wind generator. It was way up on top of a hill that got a fair amount of wind and you could see the thing for several miles, but when it was all said and done, monthly it averaged producing around $50 to maybe $70 in the windier winter months. All in all, the juice just wasn't worth the squeeze.
I also have a 30,000 watt diesel gen set. It has a four cylinder engine and just sips fuel running at 1800rpm. This runs the whole home if ever needed, and charges my batteries. I have a battery bank that's around 60kWh, and a Trace 5548 power panel inverter with a 120 to 240 step up transformer for my well pump. Keep in mind this was back in the 90's when all this was still very new. Heck, I bought 3,000 gallons of off road diesel or farm diesel, and it was $0.68 a gallon.
If you're thinking about a diesel gen set, make sure you get the lower 1800rpm engine, and you might just as well get one that can power up your home, and then plug in a battery charger for your shack. It's just not worth the time and effort and cost to have a charging system that's focused on just a couple 12v batteries, at least in my opinion, but I'd love to see what your plan is. I've learned a lot from you already. Keep up the great work.
This is sort of off topic, but last week here in SE Texas we had 20° F / -6.7° C temperatures, and today we had 71° F / 21.7° C temps. That's our crazy weather.
Our -21°F cold blast in Iowa reached south and touched you guys. Today it is currently 32°F (over 50°F warmer). Enjoying while you've got it! 😁
@@geoffreylohff3876 Since then we've had almost constant rain. lol We seem to be in a part of the world where in the winter we either wear short sleeves or 3 jackets, and t alternates like a sine wave. :D
Super capacitors yes, those are highly useful for giving you two things at the same time: 1) supply of amperage when there’s a spike in demand , for example, you have a motorized antenna that needs a boost to get started ,2) protection of your batteries whatever they are , lead acid or lifepo, batteries don’t like spikes in demand, so the super capacitors shield the batts
Very interesting how you are using the Genasun LiFePO4 boost controller with your wind turbine. I look forward to your super capacitor experiments to level out the voltage. I am surprised that no one is making a wind turbine charge controller for LiFePO4 battery systems. Solar used for charging here.
Hmm the multiple chargers are interesting also vertically mounted solar panels to keep the snow off the panels.. Great videos my friend
small scale solar and battery banks run my radios. Not enough wind in central texas hill country to generate worthwhile energy. I use low power radios for the most part for preparedness Gov abbot needs to do more and stop with the half measures and slow walking. Texas is being over run which is their goal to change the state from red to blue. We have the tech to tell if a flea is coming over the boarder but fail to use it and then act on it. appreciate your vids as they are highly informative and well done.
Yep
Love the channel Julian.
Diesel generators are excellent, but consider propane might be a viable option/conjunction with diesel. I run all 3 (diesel, ethanol free gas and propane) as a top off charge for solar arrays. I think all 3 fuel types is a winning strategy for both versatility, reliability and cost in near future. We might not be able to pick which fuel is in abundant supply.. Propane is easy long-term storage solution that has multi-use as well. High quality fuel generators are far more reliable and flexible with parts.
We will be putting 2 fuel gens and two solar arrays through heavy stress test in field for WFD this weekend.
Great review.. Hope we see some more wind power mods, adaptations, and hacks..
Love your videos Julian. Especially on the power side of things. Can't radio without power.
I run 150w of solar at home for my 12DC system. I have that fed into a 100ah LifePo4 battery. With that system I run my radios, charge up all of mine and my family's devices (phones, laptops, tablets), light my office using 12v standard US socket light bulbs, and in the summer I use a inverter to charge my lawn mower batteries. If I'm working from home on a nice bright sunny day and my battery is full, I'll move some other AC equipment over to the inverter.
For my mobile setup, I have a 90w solar panel on the hood of my car. 100ah LifePo4 battery in the car as well for radios and phone charging. I use that for mobile and POTA activations. I also have some smaller LifePo4's for portable activations. I do those infrequent enough where I haven't gotten much for portable solar. Just a 30w panel for now.
Haven't dove into wind power yet. Like you mentioned in the video, not much out there for wind charge controllers that work with LifePo4. I'm curious how your super capacitor experiment will work. Look forward to a follow up.
Great video!😀👍
Thx for watching and commenting. Do you happen to have a olive green surplus winter parka, monkey boots and braces? A username can say much about a person. 👍
How do you protect the ham tower from lightening strikes?
Thanks so much for your videos, Julian.
Good panels will give you juice even in overcast. My panels give juice in the rain!!
Very informative. I have always wondered about a wind turbine, if the wind is there it can run 24/7. Are there better ones worth investing in ?
I do love your stuff. Keep on rocking it, stay healthy.
48 volt panel feeding a bioenno charge controller feeding my lifepo4 battery. The bioenno controller does not have any noticeable RF. Works well for me. Some day I hope to have a couple 200 ah lifepo4 batteries to run everything
Outstanding! If you ever are looking to upgrade those batteries, make sure to use my discount code.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
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Id love to see your take on a small Diesel powered DC generator...Do you have a target on sustained wattage your trying to achieve?
Would be very happy with a constant 25 watts. 50 watts would be more than ghe station eould ever need. 👍
@@OH8STN not a lot of power, I was thinking something small like this Sterling with a tiny 3 phase motor, or Thermal Electric might do it
Great content as always, Julian. KN6PWH.... 73
Waaayyy way back in prehistoric vacuum tube times, I took a 2 HP reel type Briggs lawn mower motor and mounted it and my Leese Neville 40 amp alternator to a board to augment my deep cycle battery for FD and other hilltop activities. I can get about 23 amps with that 2 HP engine. I still use it for charging and limited AC power with a 600 W sine wave inverter for limited grid down. I use it today with a 100 AH AGM. Uff cuss, I dunt need that for my FT-817ND... Jerry wa2omu
Another tool in the toolbox, thanks 👍. I looked back through your videos and blogs for a source for the turbine, but must have missed it. Can you post a link to it? Thx!
I'll add wind at some point just for fun. It can't compete with our solar and hydro for consistent output.
i think this is very similar to what i need to set up, who makes that wind turbine ? another great video !!
Thanks for the Experiments Julian, Takes alot of the guess work out of it.73s KJ7JYJ
Thanks Jeff. With the world the way it is right now. These things are gonna be even more important.
Be safe brother
The hand crank. What brand is it and is there a way to gear it to it will produce more power as one pedaled for exercise.
Win win! Fitness and power.
Great video as always. On a different note - can you recommend any suppliers of solar panels in Finland? I would like to add a few permanent external panels to power the shack but options from Biltema seem limited. Thanks!
Hi Steve. Thanks for watching and commenting, it's greatly appreciated. Here in Finland we have several different options krauta, biltema, Kärkkäinen, ... These are usually marketed as solar power for summer cottage. I decided to spend ten or fifteen percent more and order Renogy panels from amazon Germany. Did this because they have a good name, quality and a good warranty. If I were going to buy a couple of small panels here in finland, Kärkkäinen always has good deals. I purchased a 160w panel from there a couple of years ago. It was fine until I broke, my mistake.
Don't let them cheat you on the charge controller though. Get a genasun if you can.
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@@OH8STN Thanks Julian. I really appreciate you taking the time to respond. I'll check the suppliers you mention, including the Amazon DE options. 73
I have a few panels laying around in case of emergency but admittedly I have no real plan for if we lose power for an extended period of time and there isnt much sun.
Living in the rainforest in Washington State has shown me that when the solar panels don't work there is normally a storm and the wind is blowing... cannot find o decent wind generator though .... if we could find a way to bring power from rain ... just sayin
As for Solar.... I use 1 genasun per 200 watt panel, basically every 200 watt panel has its own genasun and i have 1KW (5 of each) ... no series or parallel to worry about, no shading to worry about and it a failure happens to any one of my panels/controllers then I am still operating at 80%, if 2 get wiped out then it's 60%..
Outstanding 👍👍👍
@@OH8STN so how do we harness the rain?
Interested in your supplemental hand crank generator could you share info?
But for efficiency. . . I find the Chinese single cylinder drop -in industrial motor fascinating . In it's cost as well as ruggedness . Governor speed is crude mechanical but like anything else you tap into . . . Myself ? I'd look for one with a water jacket and run a long wide belt drive cause it thumps hard . That thing is economical but like a Tasmanian Devil banging around in the root cellar . Lol.
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Jack shaft anyone ?
What job is Germany and South Texas doing?
Governor of TX is trying to limit the undocumented border crossings. Farmers in Germany are fighting unfair treatment imposed by the government.
Thanks for the video and the shoutout to Germany and Texas.
I want to charge with a spin bikem
Thanks! VE3WLX
Wondering if the wind turbine was higher if would have more consistent output. KE8ZWV.
Definitely, but it would also put more stress on the tower. I would move it up yo 12m/40ft, but not without adding more guy lines. It's an aluminum tower