Man, i know GRRM does not want children, but he would be a fantastic grandpa. "Tell me a story grandpa!" "Ok, well once, in a world were winter lasts decades..."
Toby Kral You got furious when a popular show has foul language and nudity? Obviously you don't give two shits about the story GRRM is trying to tell. If that's what is going to turn you off of a piece of fiction I suggest you watch Caillou or some other show for children such as yourself.
Toby Kral Say what you will but I don't believe GoT falls into the notion that it has vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity. No matter how offensive or twisted or demented a scene will be, it's all for a purpose. After all our actions and deepest desires convey who we truly are, do they not?
Toby Kral There's a thousand other hugely popular shows that also have tons of immoral shit like, oh idk, *murder*. But since our culture is so needlessly hung up on sex, we forget about it. Gearge R.R. Martin put it best: "I could write the most detailed description of an axe entering a human skull, and no one would care. I could then write a detailed description of a penis entering a vagina, and everyone would freak out."
George R.R. Martin is awesome! He told the story on a podcast once about how he attended the first ever comic con (Which was set up by Len Wein) and was actually the first person to sign up. So technically he is the original comic con goer.
G.R.R.M. was a legendary comic fan back in the 60's and 70's. He was a regular feature in the letter columns of many publications. He was like the Tim "Two Face" Leighton of that day.
+Siren Hound Maybe that's why they stressed Congress to not cut funding to their programs. They're working around the clock to hack into a DOS word processor XD
Now I'm tempted to put a chapter of GoT into a word program and run spell check to let it "fix" everything. Should be an interesting read once its done.
Docktor Jim For a first time ever. I see someone demanding GRRM to write more, but also is honest and states it himself "my writing would never be as good as what he writes". Many times people just cry for another book and then the troll war starts.
I do a lot of copywriting. I tried WS4 after seeing this video the first time. I'm back to say I managed to get hold of a manual and I already know DOS anyway. Using vDOS and WS4 is a pleasure. It's distraction free, and very easy to use. As a programmer I use Vim all the time, and before WS4 I used Vim to write everything. I gave org-mode a try, but I'm not really an emacs guy (Vim fanboy). Now looking for a real DOS machine purely to run WS4. The security aspect of the decision for George R.R Martin is clever tbh.
Yeah honestly it makes a lot of sense, and he's not the only writer I've heard if who stuck with WordStar. There's a huge difference between word processing and typesetting, and there are entirely valid reasons to keep the two concerns separate.
i still use wordstar until somewhere in 2005, back then my trusty old compaq laptop which runs win98, also have plethora of dos programs (and games) in it. and when i want to do some writing just go back to dos mode. man i miss those times now
Dos word programs are great. They are very relaxing on the eyes with the blue background, easy to read font and simple with function keys. Documents can be easily opened in modern office suite. I learned typing on Word 5.5 on a IBM 386 in high school on a buckling spring keyboard. Had two 5.25 floppy drives. One was the constant save. The other was the finished save. Good times. I'm back to using old software and games. Laptop cpus have finally become fast enough to emulate an entire 386 or an 8086 for that matter all the way up to a pentium 2 now. Build a machine in PCEM or 86box and soak in all the DOS goodness.
Those who have had some education in psychology may realize that the more senses that are involved, the more memories will be triggered making recollection easier. So for Martin to use the same word processor that he BEGAN THE MULTI-NOVEL BOOKS with makes perfect sense in that light. Doing so will allow him to more easily remember and recall more quickly details in the previous books, as well as to rekindle the creative spark that threads itself through all the books.
It's no joke. You use early 80s DOS machine to write text. It just works and responds fast enough. You use modern PC with billions of cycles per second? Editor doesn't load instantly, there are many annoying "features", it's heavy bloatware that struggles to keep up.
May he live a really really really long life and keep writing GoT! Such a witty and adorable old man. He seems so happy :) And please keep Jon Snow and Tyrion alive! and Ghost :)
Actually, programs for professional writers are VERY simple. It's not MS Word, they are like notepad, just with cloud saving, nice font and basic markdown syntax.
"programs for professional writers are VERY simple." - That is ONE opinion, usually held by the older generations, who just don't know any better. Meanwhile, younger generations of writers have moved on from simple text editors, and are totally comfortable using full-featured programs such as MS Word. For example, I started writing in the late 70's on a typewriter, graduated in the 80's to a computer, and today I'm totally comfortable with any of the three. I normally do a lot of my early drafts on an MS-DOS era word processor, (Leading Edge), just because it's the first "word processor" I ever used, but I always end up importing into MS Word for formatting, spell check, ect. towards the end. Martin meanwhile never upgraded most likely because he was already coming up on 50 years old in the 80's, when computers first hit big, and it's common for people in that age group to fix on one era of technology.
@@zenna4474 Most likely I had meant to type 40, and the 50 was a typo, but since it was so long ago I can't be sure, but either way, even late 30's - 40 in that era would have put him into the age group where people would resist change, (or upgrading) when it came to computers. It was a very common phenomenon back in those days, I saw it happen at a company I worked for as an IT tech in the mid-90's - an entire department nearly quit en masse when told by management that their Windows 3.11 computers would be getting an upgrade to Windows 95 - everyone went ballistic. The older the person was, the more resistance the company ran into, because they all felt comfortable, (safe?), with the setups they were using, no one wanted to learn something new, even if that something new was actually better.
Now I'm completely stuck trying to remember what was the word processor I used in DOS, thanks. All I can remember is the norton commander and running this program that had all these colorful dots and highligts for italics, bold, etc., and names for styles on the side.
This is very true. As an amateur fantasy writer, spell check can be very annoying, at least as annoying as it is helpful. And I NEVER use autocorrect on my writing programs.
As a person who also writes novel since 2006, I fully agree with G.Martin. The simplest word processor like gedit, notepad and word processor (MS) are your best friends. The only few functions you need for writing are "find and replace" and "Word counting".
I bet the real reason why he uses a DOS based system that's not connected to the internet, is because it can't be hacked and people accessing the rest of the story and leaking it online.
I'm not a Conan hater, and this isn't directed at him solely, but when these talk shows have someone on that actually has things to say, how about letting them TALK instead of interrupting with stupid jokes every ten seconds. Maybe it's just me.
Haha I love DOS it's so easy to use! Insert a DOS floppy in Drive A:, a Worstar floppy in Drive B:, hook up your printer, turn on the computer, type B:, type WordStar, open your text file and when your finished print your work!
Staying active or interested/motivated in something will extend your life longer than exercise will. Eating right might be the number one thing though, especially for older people.
Honestly, that's a smart way to go. Even if it was internet connected (yes you can, I'm a retro-gamer and use 3 different DOS PC's for that from the early 80's to the early 90's), viruses just go over the top now since anything programmed to be malicious in 2015 was programmed for Windows NT based systems - everything is way different. And also, those old computers are very reliable when well maintained. Not like the majority of what we have these days which is Chinese made garbage that lasts until the warranty expires.
+Mad-Mike's "Creeping Net" Channel actually China don't have a company that can manufacture a processor till quite recently :I, and believe me it's not popular at all
You can have a modern computer not connected to the internet... And the problem with his method is that old hard drives fail eventually. He can deactivate all the features he doesn't like in a modern word processor. Even a virtual dos machine running in a modern computer i think is a better option.
This interview and one of Jeff Goldblum's interviews that was taped/aired the day before Conan turned 50 are the reasons I was so excited about the announcement of Conan25 and how they were gunna have all of the interviews on there, but I'm pretty sure it's still only the skits and random things that I never cared for.
This is hilarious to me because, as an aspiring fantasy author myself, I have a ton of made-up words I had to add to my spellchecker so it would stop telling me Tankraea was "tank area"
I'm writing a sci-fi/space opera. All of my names in it are based off of modern names, for instance: Adam becomes Eidam, Melanie becomes Milani, etc. It's so damn annoying!
Suivant la logique d'internet, cet ordinateur en DOS n'est pas mis à jour, donc vulnérable, donc n'importe qui peut se connecter dessus et voler les scénarii!
Man, i know GRRM does not want children, but he would be a fantastic grandpa. "Tell me a story grandpa!" "Ok, well once, in a world were winter lasts decades..."
"And then the princess had sex with her brother in front of her dead son. Fuck me harder, she screamed"
Toby Kral You got furious when a popular show has foul language and nudity? Obviously you don't give two shits about the story GRRM is trying to tell. If that's what is going to turn you off of a piece of fiction I suggest you watch Caillou or some other show for children such as yourself.
Toby Kral Say what you will but I don't believe GoT falls into the notion that it has vulgarity for the sake of vulgarity. No matter how offensive or twisted or demented a scene will be, it's all for a purpose. After all our actions and deepest desires convey who we truly are, do they not?
Toby Kral There's a thousand other hugely popular shows that also have tons of immoral shit like, oh idk, *murder*. But since our culture is so needlessly hung up on sex, we forget about it. Gearge R.R. Martin put it best:
"I could write the most detailed description of an axe entering a human skull, and no one would care. I could then write a detailed description of a penis entering a vagina, and everyone would freak out."
Toby Kral stfu and gtfo
he is so adorable
George R.R. Martin is awesome! He told the story on a podcast once about how he attended the first ever comic con (Which was set up by Len Wein) and was actually the first person to sign up. So technically he is the original comic con goer.
G.R.R.M. was a legendary comic fan back in the 60's and 70's. He was a regular feature in the letter columns of many publications. He was like the Tim "Two Face" Leighton of that day.
The NSA have to wait like the rest of us. ;)
That really must of pissed them off! :D
Siren Hound LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO shots fired
+Siren Hound Maybe that's why they stressed Congress to not cut funding to their programs. They're working around the clock to hack into a DOS word processor XD
How will they hack into a machine that's not connected to the internet?
@@rubenvd3913 black magic and voodo
He loves Linux. Linux has the "killall" command.
Yeaaaaahh!!!!!!!!!
puts on sunglasses
First of all I have a massive amount of respect for this man and his writing. 2nd, that's awesome that he uses DOS. Thirdly, his laugh, is the best.
Georgey, my man, please, do 1 situp. Just 1. I need you to live to finish writing those books. If not for you, do it for us man.
Lol
Lol
That's more likely to kill him
He's to boss to do situps or other workouts
Next thing you know, he dies from doing that sit up.
Be careful on what you wish for.
"Hold the DOS"
Hodos... Haha.
HoDOS
Now I'm tempted to put a chapter of GoT into a word program and run spell check to let it "fix" everything. Should be an interesting read once its done.
George RR Martin is a national treasure, and should be chained in a cell, fed healthy food, and forced to write 18 hours a day.
Docktor Jim This is not the first time I see you comment this, you're starting to worry me, Jim.
TrolledMorso Do you disagree? I mean, we need books, dammit!
Docktor Jim Go write yer own book!
TrolledMorso It would never be as good as what he writes.
Docktor Jim For a first time ever. I see someone demanding GRRM to write more, but also is honest and states it himself "my writing would never be as good as what he writes". Many times people just cry for another book and then the troll war starts.
I do a lot of copywriting. I tried WS4 after seeing this video the first time. I'm back to say I managed to get hold of a manual and I already know DOS anyway. Using vDOS and WS4 is a pleasure. It's distraction free, and very easy to use. As a programmer I use Vim all the time, and before WS4 I used Vim to write everything. I gave org-mode a try, but I'm not really an emacs guy (Vim fanboy). Now looking for a real DOS machine purely to run WS4. The security aspect of the decision for George R.R Martin is clever tbh.
Yeah honestly it makes a lot of sense, and he's not the only writer I've heard if who stuck with WordStar. There's a huge difference between word processing and typesetting, and there are entirely valid reasons to keep the two concerns separate.
Dany of House Tire Center
LOL if you google "dos machine" and click on images, George martin shows up..
He's right.Best writing work I ever did got written on Word 5.1 for Mac. Nothing came ever as practical as this to me.
Oh my god I used this program back in the 90's! It was blue and was great!! Miss you Wordstar! :)
When you write Ser and it corrects it...
......corrects to Sir.
i still use wordstar until somewhere in 2005, back then my trusty old compaq laptop which runs win98, also have plethora of dos programs (and games) in it. and when i want to do some writing just go back to dos mode. man i miss those times now
I love him already for using that!
Don't die on me, George.
i wonder if he takes his anger out on the characters
b-dum, tss...
Oh gosh the background laughter at 1:36 cracks me up even more.
Dos word programs are great. They are very relaxing on the eyes with the blue background, easy to read font and simple with function keys. Documents can be easily opened in modern office suite. I learned typing on Word 5.5 on a IBM 386 in high school on a buckling spring keyboard. Had two 5.25 floppy drives. One was the constant save. The other was the finished save. Good times. I'm back to using old software and games. Laptop cpus have finally become fast enough to emulate an entire 386 or an 8086 for that matter all the way up to a pentium 2 now. Build a machine in PCEM or 86box and soak in all the DOS goodness.
Spoilers: Lord Tire Center dies in Book 5
spoliers: there is no lord tire center
kelimate spoilers: no fucking shit
Spoilers : House Twenti of Gudman
oh man he seems like such an awesome dude! what a lovely man!
"I use word star 4.0" is probably the cutest thing I've heard in my life.
I had never seen him like that, he is very gentle and funny
I love old soft too - it keeps your mind clear and dont lets you procrastinate. I use FreeDOS on one of my netbooks and i love it
Spoiler Alert: Season 6 introduces 'Lord TireCenter'. . .
You didn't mean "Blackfyre", you meant "black squire"...Now reading about Griph would be a lot more interesting.
mr martin actually seems like a very sincere, down to earth person.
This is my first time hearing his voice, and somehow it's exactly how I thought it would be just from having seen pictures of him
George R.R, Martin and Conan!! Awesome!!!
A dos - A dream of spring
He is so awesome and genuinely funny xD
This interview is what got me into watching Game of Thrones. This guy is a badass.
Hes laugh its awesome.
Another advantage is no distractions from the internet on his DOS computer. He can focus on writing instead.
Launch DosBox on your modern computer and give it a spin
What a lovable guy ❤️
Those who have had some education in psychology may realize that the more senses that are involved, the more memories will be triggered making recollection easier. So for Martin to use the same word processor that he BEGAN THE MULTI-NOVEL BOOKS with makes perfect sense in that light. Doing so will allow him to more easily remember and recall more quickly details in the previous books, as well as to rekindle the creative spark that threads itself through all the books.
It's amazing that hard drive hasn't crashed yet. Hope he backs it up.
That's pretty awesome, even though I'm pretty sure he was probably the only one using it back then too.
It's no joke.
You use early 80s DOS machine to write text. It just works and responds fast enough.
You use modern PC with billions of cycles per second? Editor doesn't load instantly, there are many annoying "features", it's heavy bloatware that struggles to keep up.
George's laugh is truly the cure to cancer.
Still never watched or read any Game of Thrones...I'm so out of it.
I recommend reading the books, they're fantastic.
i prefer the show honestly, but im more of a visual guy.
OMG! dude... watch the show. dude, my god...i feel like i should be sending u a dollar a day.
jayrush01 Hahah
***** completely legitamate reason. It's not for everyone...
The books are so much more violent too
May he live a really really really long life and keep writing GoT! Such a witty and adorable old man. He seems so happy :) And please keep Jon Snow and Tyrion alive! and Ghost :)
Glad to see an actual Artist on a Late Night talk show, for once.
I had no idea what a DOS word processor was, so I had to google it. This really says a lot about how technology has evolved.
When he said "I don't want any help", I think he thought Conan was talking about an editor, and not a newer word processing program.
Love his interviews, GRRM has one of the cutest laughs in the realm.
Actually, programs for professional writers are VERY simple. It's not MS Word, they are like notepad, just with cloud saving, nice font and basic markdown syntax.
"programs for professional writers are VERY simple." - That is ONE opinion, usually held by the older generations, who just don't know any better. Meanwhile, younger generations of writers have moved on from simple text editors, and are totally comfortable using full-featured programs such as MS Word.
For example, I started writing in the late 70's on a typewriter, graduated in the 80's to a computer, and today I'm totally comfortable with any of the three. I normally do a lot of my early drafts on an MS-DOS era word processor, (Leading Edge), just because it's the first "word processor" I ever used, but I always end up importing into MS Word for formatting, spell check, ect. towards the end.
Martin meanwhile never upgraded most likely because he was already coming up on 50 years old in the 80's, when computers first hit big, and it's common for people in that age group to fix on one era of technology.
@@looneyburgmusic He was 32-42 during the 80s
@@zenna4474 he's 73, so he was ~35 when W4 was released... And never upgraded to what is considered THE definitive release of WS - 5.1 in '89?
@@looneyburgmusic I don't know anything about computers, he just wasn't almost 50 in the 80s.
@@zenna4474 Most likely I had meant to type 40, and the 50 was a typo, but since it was so long ago I can't be sure, but either way, even late 30's - 40 in that era would have put him into the age group where people would resist change, (or upgrading) when it came to computers. It was a very common phenomenon back in those days, I saw it happen at a company I worked for as an IT tech in the mid-90's - an entire department nearly quit en masse when told by management that their Windows 3.11 computers would be getting an upgrade to Windows 95 - everyone went ballistic. The older the person was, the more resistance the company ran into, because they all felt comfortable, (safe?), with the setups they were using, no one wanted to learn something new, even if that something new was actually better.
George R. R. stop being so brilliant.
He is such genius!!!!
Now I'm completely stuck trying to remember what was the word processor I used in DOS, thanks. All I can remember is the norton commander and running this program that had all these colorful dots and highligts for italics, bold, etc., and names for styles on the side.
This is very true. As an amateur fantasy writer, spell check can be very annoying, at least as annoying as it is helpful. And I NEVER use autocorrect on my writing programs.
He is a pro, he knows what he is doing!
I don´t care how many Starks you have to kill just give me the fucking book 6
Love Game of Thrones and Wordstar. Learned word processing using Wordstar on a Sanyo 1100 CP/M computer.
Respect!!
As a person who also writes novel since 2006, I fully agree with G.Martin. The simplest word processor like gedit, notepad and word processor (MS) are your best friends. The only few functions you need for writing are "find and replace" and "Word counting".
is your name Brian Griffin?
No wonder it takes him forever to write those books.
Oh, my God. He's adorable.
And that's the reason why The Winds of Winter isn't ready yet :)
Frickin Conan! Conan! Conan!
I bet the real reason why he uses a DOS based system that's not connected to the internet, is because it can't be hacked and people accessing the rest of the story and leaking it online.
Right.
that makes complete sense to me, not to sound like a hipster, but im going to look into finding that program
Love Mr George's accent
I'm not a Conan hater, and this isn't directed at him solely, but when these talk shows have someone on that actually has things to say, how about letting them TALK instead of interrupting with stupid jokes every ten seconds. Maybe it's just me.
I dont think I want to hear a lot out of George Martins mouth anyway...
CChissel Yeah. I prefer to read it all on paper anyway.
That's why we watch them though. Every so often those jokes are really funny. Straight laced talk shows are boring.
Charles Wirmington No, I meant he's just a really weird fucker.
CChissel Yet you're here
So do I! DosBox 0.74 with Wordperfect 5.1+ for the win!
His bedtime stories won't let you sleep forever!
i didnt know he was such a hilariously nice guy
Haha I love DOS it's so easy to use! Insert a DOS floppy in Drive A:, a Worstar floppy in Drive B:, hook up your printer, turn on the computer, type B:, type WordStar, open your text file and when your finished print your work!
Staying active or interested/motivated in something will extend your life longer than exercise will. Eating right might be the number one thing though, especially for older people.
There is only one person on this entire planet that i love, respect, hate and fear at the same time.
And that's George.
His DOS PC broke and he didn't wanna rewrite it, so he will not finish it.
I came here JUST so I could hear that chubby man's voice, like warm honey on the biscuit of my ears, mmmmmmmmmmm.......
Kinda creepy.
lmfao
Jesus Christ...
... fuckin disturbing dude...
All these commenters are just jealous
*DON'T LET THEM BRING YOU DOWN SWAGMASTER*
WordStar FTW!
He's a genius
I would definitely buy a George R. R. Martin teddy bear! if there were any..lol
Unique and Creative author.
omg lisa kudrow and george r r martin in the same place? friends and game of thrones are like my 2 favorites things in the WORLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Me everytime I use someones computer who hasn't switched off the auto-correction.
Wow that laugh after the word tire center. I hope he's alright.
Just realised I have WordStar 4.0 on my IBM XT over there on my desk :D
I had a DOS computer with Wordstar Micropro a long time ago, still remember the password "Typeit".
Honestly, that's a smart way to go. Even if it was internet connected (yes you can, I'm a retro-gamer and use 3 different DOS PC's for that from the early 80's to the early 90's), viruses just go over the top now since anything programmed to be malicious in 2015 was programmed for Windows NT based systems - everything is way different.
And also, those old computers are very reliable when well maintained. Not like the majority of what we have these days which is Chinese made garbage that lasts until the warranty expires.
+Mad-Mike's "Creeping Net" Channel actually China don't have a company that can manufacture a processor till quite recently :I, and believe me it's not popular at all
You can have a modern computer not connected to the internet...
And the problem with his method is that old hard drives fail eventually. He can deactivate all the features he doesn't like in a modern word processor. Even a virtual dos machine running in a modern computer i think is a better option.
This interview and one of Jeff Goldblum's interviews that was taped/aired the day before Conan turned 50 are the reasons I was so excited about the announcement of Conan25 and how they were gunna have all of the interviews on there, but I'm pretty sure it's still only the skits and random things that I never cared for.
1:36 someone in the audience seems to be having a blast.
OMG, DOS is alive!!!
just great!!!!
What a lovely man :))
This is hilarious to me because, as an aspiring fantasy author myself, I have a ton of made-up words I had to add to my spellchecker so it would stop telling me Tankraea was "tank area"
I'm writing a sci-fi/space opera. All of my names in it are based off of modern names, for instance: Adam becomes Eidam, Melanie becomes Milani, etc. It's so damn annoying!
Raye J +1 i'm writing a porno and it always tries to change "Cumshot" to "Camshaft" i feel your pain
ExodusCovertops I feel like a like wasn't enough, so I am commenting to tell you how much I appreciate your comment.
this is glorious
L'ordinateur qui tourne sous DOS le plus convoité de la planète!
Suivant la logique d'internet, cet ordinateur en DOS n'est pas mis à jour, donc vulnérable, donc n'importe qui peut se connecter dessus et voler les scénarii!
Waza_Be : cet ordinateur n'est pas branché à internet.
Conan is the best host you americans have! And yes, I'm jealous.
I remember that word processor, it was really handy for my classes BACK IN THE LATE 1980's. Seriously though, if it ain't broke...don't fix it.
Man that guys laugh! hehehehhehehehe =D awesome dude. George R.R. Martin that is.
Omg I wrote a short story about an author who uses an old PC because he was comfortable with it. There are a few twists but its a similar idea. Wow!
So there's Conan's new bit for the show; "Game of Thrones" Names & Places autocorrect.
I just want to drink whiskey with George and talk about life.
I respect this guy so much, he's awesome and so modest !
He weights 50M$ btw
I love you kenpachi rama-sama!