World's Smallest 4060 Gaming PC That You Can Build NOW (No Mods)
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Today we’re building one of the smallest 4060 gaming PCs possible in the Yocto. This video takes you through the entire build process from the components used, including an Intel i5-13400 CPU and the Gigabyte Low Profile RTX 4060.
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Man is going to make a laptop at this rate
😂😂😂
Sff laptop.
@@DazePhaseit's a joke
Man’s gonna make a flip phone and call it a sffpc
This is smaller than a laptop 😊
These mini-PCs are honestly my favorite. Small, clean, minimal, and relatively powerful. I should 3D print my own case sometime.
make sure to use ABS or something just not PLA, tends to melt
@@naoltitude9516 ABS is a struggle for larger prints. PETG or Polycarbonate will be my material of choice, thank you.
Imagine making it like 27mm thick, while also having a battery, a keyboard and a SCREEN, in case you'd wanna use it on a trip or in starbucks... Oh wait, that reminds me something
I got a morefine ryzen 9 mini pc, the fan noise was absolutely insane. Sounded like a space ship taking off to do basic tasks. I ended up getting an ATX case and will never go mini again, not worth it for that kind of insane running noise.
@@naoltitude9516 I swear I responded a week ago, guess it didn't register. I would use PETG or Polycarbonate filament, thanks for the suggestion
4060 LP is wild
It’s so small 😂
thats what she said ;-;@@corpingtons
yes and has the same performance as the regular 4060 right?
i think the difference is the price too
@@arikowidtrash7074Same performance and much more compact. There is a $30 markup, but it is a very high quality card, it feels like a brick in your hand. Puts the manufacturing of something like a LP 1650 or 3050 to shame
@@arikowidtrash7074It's only a lil more expensive, for something so niche it's a good deal. Now the 4060 itself... Huge markup on that crappy card from nvidia. And SFF costs a lot more, it's everything else where you'll be paying a markup, not the 4060. Mobo, case, psu, etc,.
Man that case is beautiful. I love the black with gold accents.
Cool! I built a 4070 pc in velka 5 using your guide, works great, thanks!
really? how much did it cost?
@@marcus-wv9ti around 1800 USD, but I payed 800 on top for shipping overseas from US and import tax (18% in my country). Funnily enough it is cheaper than buying a lower spec PC here locally.
is it bad thermals/perf because of size?
@@wheezel55 I got an AMD 7600, these new AMD chips target 95c at full load, so no matter what cooler you have thermals will be the same lol. But if your cooling is good it will hit higher clocks at full load for longer. In my case I also undervolted the cpu quite a bit and it started getting slightly higher clocks. It's hard to measure that though, so I don't have exact numbers.
As for gpu, 4070 is pretty efficient. I can play Cyberpunk 2077 with path tracing and DLSS balanced for hours. I get around 100-120 fps (with frame gen, so really like 50-60). There is no throttling or anything, so the cooling is good enough.
Thermals are not a problem, but noise might be.
1. Great video, thank you.
2. It's easily one of the most attractive small form PC I have ever seen. It's beautiful.
3. If only the case was made of metal.
4. If only it was dark orange color.
5. If only I had more than 5 euros in my account!
Then I would definitely build one such PC.
your studio aesthetics is top notch . the way you captured is classic . even top tech people in youtube doesn't fits to your quality of your video. Great work.
You mentioned no softening or melting of the plastic but at 3:27 you can definitely tell some bending has happened on the right side of the entire build. It's quite glaring, but unassumingly you wouldn't find it. Once you see it you really cant "un-see" it.
More than likely happened during printing. Very common. Usually just bad bed adhesion and is solved easily with leveling, cleaning the bed plate, or using some type of glue adhesive on the bed plate.
oh yeah, I see it the bowing on the bed, my OCD would never allow that, especially with the brass contrast.
Talk about perfect timing! Been refreshing your channel for weeks, and there it is! Excited for your latest upload! Thank you bro!
nice find. they should really make a metal version, I think it'd look stunning
Your channel has started my new hobby of building PC's and trying new cool pc builds for a hobby instead of gaming on them for the most part. Now, if I could only figure out cable management.
Do you sell the final builds? Or just have a bunch of PCs lying around.
Probably going to look into something like this as my reference build for what I want when it's time for a third build. Right now I'm rocking the Teenage Engineering Computer-1 case, with a 3060 inside.
After they designed it, it's mostly 3D printer crafted, not hand crafted. PETG is not expensive either. 150 pounds is bloody insane.
i think its mostly because they are hobbyists trying to be producers.
As a hobbyist myself I get mad frustrated dealing with my own 3d printer, and you bet your ass I would charge someone as much as I think I could get away with when it comes to making me wait for a single thing to take damn near a whole day to print and I have to babysit it.
I agree they should have the PETG injected into a mold though. Cuts down on price and saves hairpulling & time for everyone.
Oddly really cool case. Love you’re video dude, been watching for a while
superb detail when choosing the 13400 because it heats up less with the same heatsink... magnificent!!!!
RUclipsr Optimum Tech modeled and assembled a 3D printed case of 2.7 liters volume with the same card, but this one is by far more aesthetic and elegant. Indeed the materials can be improved and optimized but I really like what they achieved here.
Bit late to this but the PSU should have a little more headroom if you're measuring off the wall socket directly. With the peak efficiency being at 94%, in theory you could pull power up to the point the reading hits 265W - probably a bit more though as PSU's generally arent as efficient at such high loads
Awesome build though, glad to see more 3d printed cases are taking off as there's so much more potential for new stuff to come to market without the crazy expenses around full metal prototype builds
reasonable price, great performance, astonishing look, this has everything!
I was definitely looking at one of these last year, but that was before the LP 4060 came around. Glad to see it's now a viable option.
small as a couple hard drives but powerful as a beast
This man just keeps pushing SFF limits and I love it!
What's limits is he pushing? He's not doing anything but assembling off the shelf components.
You should check out Optimum Tech he actually engineers and builds stuff.
Watching this, I could totally see similarities with Optimum Tech's vids especially in the presentation and style, and also in the scripts (I think I heard some familiar phrases also spoken by Ali on his sff build guide particularly on the intro for the pc components, dont know if its just me lol). Also, they both use 3D printers from the same brand (coincidence? idk).
But anyways, the main distinction bet. this and Ali's sff builds is that Ali shows the use of modified components (e.g. perfect length cables, custom pcb controllers, 3D printed cases, etc.) whereas Devyn's builds focuses on PC's which you can simply buy the parts and build them yourself without the need for modifications. Although Ali does also have vids without the use of custom components.
I would say I still prefer Ali's vids, but I dont have any qualms with getting inspiration (Its just the way the world works). Anyways, great vid and hope you continue with the creating great content.
this ones cool looking too, can be stacked w audio system which will look even nicer
Just a tip for anyone looking at the i5-13400. Just get the i5-13500. It has 8 e-cores instead of 4.
More expensive?
Really liking the style of case. Wish it was metal.
did you just challenge optimum ? 😂
Even his video style and cinematography looks liks optimum’s😂
I believe that Optimum, Mr Matt Lee, and Devyn are all together.
Really like the build, but had to chuckle at Newvember 1:34 :D
Finally I know I'm not insane
I've created mine. IT-X format, no GPU. I have it for what. 1 year now and it's been a really good partner, no breaking so far. I've printed it in ASA and it proves itself really strong. I travel with it 1-2 time a week in a backpack to go to work. I think about releasing the files really soon
Wow, who knew you could get a desktop so small. I'm glad I've begun to find these videos before I build my first desktop.
i hope you post the total expense too cause it's a drag too go all over the links just to see it's over your budget
Beautiful and sleek, of course, really appreciate the comparison with previous build and talking about temps, considerations and concerns, thanks!
My last PC build was 2005 and haven't kept up since. It's crazy how far we have come. These things can fit in my laptop bag ffs lol
whats best its not those celeron mini pc that even youtube lags, its a full desktop w 4060 and 13400
If you’re interested in something smaller, the minisforum MS-01 can hold a single half height gpu, like the rx 6400, and comes in at less than 2 liters. It comes with a mobile cpu soldered to the board but the options are, a 12450H, 12900H, or 13900H. Not sure there are any better single slot low profile gpus though.
2 days ago I lowered the volume of my PC from 35 to 14,3 L and now this... Come one man, mine build is with 4060 too. xD Love SFF builds, it looks so clean and portable.
Wanna see compact mATX cases as well.
Hopefully they make a refreshed version of the case with a little bit more wiggle room for a extra fan and easy fit for the smaller 4060 rtx and better material against heat :)
when the fuck are they gonna make 70 and 80 tier cards this size????? criminally underrates form factor
Great question. Especially when you consider that the 60 tier is the least energy efficient of all of them... 80 or 90 makes the most sense for a small build where every watt and degree matters
Not happening unless Nvidia decides to move the --80 cards way down from the 300W+ TDP power envelope they've been at for the past couple of generations. Their workstations cards like the RTX 4000 Ada SFF are proof that Nvidia's perfectly capable of making relatively powerful cards with a low TDP, but they haven't applied any such strategy to their Geforce line yet.
There is a even smaller case that fits a 4060 plus HDplex the "Prototype SL3m 2.9L" from custom-mod its Size: 239 x 207 x 60mm (2.97L) Cooler: up to 39 mm PSU: HDPlex 250 GaN
An actually proper looking HTPC
This in full metal with the gold accents would look sooo good
I'm just here looking for the Optimum Tech comments lol. But honestly, nothing wrong with a lot of the aesthetics, cadence, and format like Ali (even if it wasn't the intention but so happens to come off that way), I also take notes from best practices of creators I like as well. As long as you provide good info, value, entertainment or whatever the goal of the video then that's fine. Don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Definitely one of the nicest looking mini ones I’ve seen
Do a smallest 4070 Super next! With an AMD CPU please!
please no amd lol
How about a mini pc build with passive cooling with thunderbolt4 or occulink. Giving users options for silent day to day tasks and gaming loud when needed.
that's crazy, something even smaller than the Velka 3? Sign me up!
Awesome build! Thx bro, i want assemble too looks like this project
How much was this build
Perhaps some gold foil would help to dissipate the heat more evenly at the psu side, and would even fit the build (although its in the inside). Just a guess though.
Great content, but try pls with lower tdp hungry builds with this 250W fanless hdplex. It is recommended to use PSU at max 80 percent of its max power supplied. There are 7840HS buil-in mobos in the market with lower TDP.
underrated youtuber
This would be my dream PC! Have you ever seen the low profile single slot GTX 1070? Can't find it for sale anywhere but it would be interesting to see you make a video about that if you can find it anywhere.
isn't this just a direct copy of Optimum's design?
Edit: I stand corrected, case has been available since 2023
This case has been available since March 2023. Here's an archive link if you don't believe me: web.archive.org/web/20230327065657/n3rdware.com/cases/yocto
@@devyn.johnston Valid, appreciate you providing the link
I wish more people advocated for being able to plug the GPU into the single PCB riser in a way the pci fingers can intrude into the motherboard IO. Asrock has boards like this right now, but there's no specific info why.
I sent you adoption papers. Bring the pc with you
Dude this is amazing🔥
I love the look of tiny cases, but they're too loud in my experience. I left my Louqe Ghost S1 because of the poor thermals and loudness required to keep the CPU and GPU cooled and got a Fractal North. It is silent most of the time, and I have no regrets. That tiny case certainly looks nice though!
Depending on the materials you use, you can actually have an incredibly strong, rigid and heat resistant build. PETG is not bad. But it's a lot more brittle than even PLA, so even with higher heat resistance, it's definitely not going to be more durable. Printing in ABS, ASA, PC and PA12/PA6 (Nylon) especially when carbon fibre reinforced, will yield leaps and bounds more rigidity, tensile and compressive strength, impact resistance, and most importantly heat resistance. In the order of magnitude of 2-3 times that of PETG when you get up to Nylon (especially carbon fibre reinforced nylon).
PETG is just not an ideal solution here. While it will work, it's a place they have decided to cheap out instead of using better and more robust materials. Only time will tell if that decision was worthwhile.
The thing is, with all cases on this channel that tried to utilize the Low Profile 4060, all were suboptimal because they completely block the airflow of this gpu. Having vertical fins on the heatsink, it pushes the air on two sides and it were always blocked in all cases featured here. However, there's one case that's actually MADE for the 4060 LP. It's the A24-v5. The panels are vented EXACTLY where they should, so the used warm the air of the gpu can leave the case instead of getting immediately blocked and trapped like here, and every other that was featured.
For this reason, I think the A24-v5 is the best for the LP model (riserless, 70mm cpu cooling clearance, 3mm thick panels) and the Velka 3 is the winner for anyone having a single fan gpu.
It has ventilation on the side and bottom of the gpu - imgur.com/V8PYrFo
@@devyn.johnstonThe riser is blocking it on the other side. Same with the Gemcase where the psu blocks it and with the HT5, it's the closed panel of the case itself. With the A24-v5, there's a vented line on the backside as well where the gpu exhausts, so that should result in even better temps at load scenarios and also could be layed horizontally like this one. It could prove to be a nice comparison and how sturdy it is, it's definitely up for travel. This video is great for mentioning how the i5 is more suitable for 40mm clearance - that's very useful for people getting inspired to tacke one of these compact cases. Keep up the good work:)
the 250w is for output, given power supplies are about 80% efficient, you can assume that measuring at the wall that the unit is at max input at 120% rated output. On this unit its 300w.
This is awesome!! I really hope somebody makes a low profile or ITX-length 4070 Super. It’s such a powerful card for the amount of actual energy it takes to run.
Awesome build congrats!!! The only potential problem i see here is long term for the PSU! If you're an intensive gamer, constantly pushing the limits, the PSU might die after some months or even earlier! At least 300-350W is mandatory for a system with these specs to be safe in the long term. Now, if you go APU like a 8700G which i think should be the purpose of these tiny builds, then a 200-250W PSU is more than enough :D and i'm probably building one next year with ZEn5 APU!
Good and dense arrangement of parts, I like the design. Strict and minimalistic. The choice of CPU cooler is limited by height. There are rarely video graphics cards with a short metal part. Accordingly, the choice of a suitable video card is also very limited.
I thought I’d only be watching Optimum Tech with realistic SFF builds. Glad I found this channel :)
Single layer insulated wires carrying mains voltage being squeezed right underneath the motherboard with sensitive electronics and sharp pins?
That's a very bad idea.
Those HDPLEX PSUs are not your normal ATX PSUs with concealed mains wiring, with those you really need to be careful...
EDIT: WAIT 150 FOR 3D PRINTED CASE?! HELL NO!
The best SFF PC channel hands down!
This is a next 15 years Xbox & PlayStation pc build. Great build 👍😀
Hey Devyn! For builds like these, it's recommended to undervolt both CPU and GPU, right? Was wondering if it was considered hehe.
Fyi I have had no problem under-volting the 65w 7600. Negative -30 is no problem however I toned it down to-25 as temps were perfect in a Densium with zotac 4070.
For when you want as much HP as you get in sub 5l.
This build is clean AF btw. Hopefully they release a steel version.
a mod they can do for the case is covering the sides of the holes with brass and having a lane of brass that runs all across the inner sides of the case. This way the case will act more like a heatsink and it will also look a bit mor cool in my opinion. It will obviously increase the price, but since in this niche is fine spending 150 bucks for a case then why don't have a 170/180 bucks case that has this truly valuable plus?
First video I have seen from you. On the Ryzen have you gone into the bios and set it to run in ECO mode before? Curious also then how the performance would stack against the intel chip. I know a lot of users run their Ryzen chips in ECO mode and say they only lose a bit of performance but the power draw and heat difference is pretty significant.
That’s a really lovely case. Good build
What are your thoughts about the Minisforum motherboards with built in Laptop CPUs? Would be interesting to see a mini ITX build with the 4060 with one of those like the AR900i which is a 24 core i9.
Just get a laptop....
cool minimalist build thanks for sharing this is the first time I'm seeing a high end GPU that tiny! what would be so cool if this style case could either be milled out of a solid piece of aluminum or 3D metal printed. just a thought...
If you plan on travelling, just get yourself a LAPTOP, god damn it 😂
I plan on travelling and I don’t want a laptop. This has better performance, better cooling, easier upgrades / expansion. I want it for gaming so I don’t need a display; I can just use a TV anywhere I stay. The game I want to play is also very demanding (Star Citizen) so a laptop isn’t really good for that.
Thank you very much. A quite interesting build. I look forward to learning more about these small builds.
Optimum built his own with his 3D printer before this and it was extremely similar. I wonder if it's his company making these 😂
I think you should try undervolting you GPUs in your builds. I think most sff builders are experienced enough to to this and it would add useful information
The smallest case that can possibly fit a LP 4060, is the J-HACK Pure MK2. Unfortunately they seem to have been discontinued...
Id love to see this guy and optimum geek out idk why😂
Little bugged I can't just buy the STL and print this myself, but pretty cool case.. most likely will be my living room HTPC setup
this is so cool! love how much work your putting in to give us all the information about the build
About that PSU and melting plastics.. I got a secondhand HDPlex 250W off from a seller who told had it powering a 1050ti inside a Nintendo 8bit housing and it still has some mysterious red markings on its one side, matching really well in the Nintendo-red plastic :D On my system its been powering a 1070 for a year already in open air build, dissipating some heat into aluminium rack its zip-tied to, works well.
I wonder how longevity is with the case being plastic and heat being generated. Also, the 250W power seems lowkey concerning but I wonder how it is longer term usage.
That looks like a classy little case
I'll sticky with my old Raven RVZ01B. It is almost 14 liters, but at least I can have the 7800X3D, 4080 Super in it and 16TB of Jellyfin media. But if I had lower requirements for a PC this would be a cool one.
It's not just about the smallest case, it's being the smallest while still having unaffected performance, no thermal issues.
I love these small PCs. I thought I had a pretty small build with the IQUNIX ZX-1 case. My case is 9.2L case which could fit 2.5x of the Yocto case. I put a i7-14700 and ARC A770 in my case so maybe the thermals work out better for me.
ANyway nice build and nice review.
Dude! Outstanding build!
Can't wait for the Ryzen 9000G (or whatever name they give it) comes out. It should be comparable to a 4060, apparently. Then you'll do some crazy magic!
A Velka 3 clone seems like a much more sensible pick. It's just a tiny bit bigger, but cheaper, made out of metal, and has size for a full height GPU.
This is Awesome man I was gonna buy a laptop but I think in m just gonna build a small pc.
How much is it?
I feel like you can probably make this case yourself, it's so simple and you can outhouse the 3dprinting and machining of the brass parts... you just need to know how to make a 3d modell...
Amd 7xxx series boost until they hit 90c, if they can, you can change that in bios if you don't like it.
Amazing build! Can I know the length of your custom cables?
10cm for the gpu, 20cm for the 24 pin, 30cm for the cpu. They’re available at n3rdware.com/accessories/custom-hdplex-cables
Assuming this is slightly bigger than optimums build but the plus side is you can buy everything without the need for a 3d printer etc.
they're the same size
You're misunderstanding how the two cpu options you mentioned self regulate for power. The AMD chip intentionally draws more power as long as it sees temp headroom. Because it's not a problem at all for it to run just bellow 100C 24/7.
Intel still locks down all their chips that don't have a K name... So the one you have here will barely ever break the 65W number on the specsheet.
I think given AMD is so much more power efficient if you are worried about the temp numbers, go turn off PBO and take all the performance benefits.
I built the velka 3, in a similar way to yours. With the addition off a 2.5" ssd that you can fit between the 1U PSU and the case.
There is video uploaded today he have pc gaming smaller then yours
The video channel names reybad
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u cud technically make it smaller with a psu that goes along a long cable externally like some game consoles
So, if you set PL to 70% then you are down at 80 W GPU power draw. Combine it with a decent mem OC and you shouldn't lose much performance at all. At least if this 4060 behaves like other ADA cards normally do...