I like this video format a lot. Very informative and interesting. Love the way you explain every choice and how it was catered to your specific situation.
I would love to see many videos like this! Packing high performance components in such a small case! Great to see such a small case packing this much performance.
AMD's last two generations have been very impressive for sure....esp their x3d development. I was very surprised that the 5800x3d was essentially a seamless entry into last gen. Typically anytime you introduce something that innovative which in it's first gen there will be a lot of issues...but AMD knocked it out of the park. The 7800x3d is even better and I wasn't sure that the jump in performance over the 5800x3d could be that big. Unfortunately, the larger core count variants of x3d don't perform as well, at least in gaming. However, as you pointed out the 7000 series x3d CPUs are insanely efficient when undervolting.
Of course, most of the upper end of the power consumption is really inefficient for pretty much all components. Cooling is overrated when you actually optimize your copmonents.
I've been using the Velka 3 with their Enhance PSU for the past couple of years, going back and forth from the metro NY area to PAX West, PAX East, and PAX Australia. For PAX East, it sits in a LTT backpack along with all its accessories. When traveling to PAX West and PAX Australia, the system sits in a SKB 2011-7 ATA travel case, along with an Asus XG17, Drop Alt keyboard, Glorious mouse, DualShock 4 controller, and USB hub. I've checked the SKB case with no issues (other than TSA forgetting to reattach my TSA locks more often than not). I've gone from a 5600/PNY 3060 to a 5700X3D/MSI 3060 Ti Aero. The one downside is that the motherboard I/O area can get pretty toasty. I bring a small USB-powered fan and point it at the back of the case to keep things cooler, along with using a USB hub to move anything on a dongle away from the excessive heat. I'm using Louqe's Cobalt PCIe 4.0 riser cable. The dark blue is barely visible from outside the case. The light grey cable is more noticeable than the blue.
A few years ago one of my now-roommates was interested in a portable PC for VR. An appropriate external battery setup (Jackery et al) could make this a major beast for actual VR gaming!
That's a cute little bit of kit there! Never underestimate the value of an underclock. I've been happily running my 5700x all core 3.7Ghz @ 0.950v.. I find it remarkable that it typically seems to sip around 35-38W!
I made a similar build a couple of years ago, when gpu prices skyrocketed and itx form factor was expensive, paid 950 USD for a 3060. Some of the issues I founds were: -It was super heavy, even it was small -Was hot to the touch while gaming -Fan was super loud, even more than a gaming laptop -Expensive Pros: - it looked so cool in desktop, was easy to setup on a tv or anywhere -Performance was great what I would do different: -If it just for gaming I would stick to a ryzen 5 non X, to keep power consumption down and temps. -Get a 250w or 300w PSU and replace the fan
This couldn’t have come at a a better time. I was looking into building a new pc hopefully really small as I’m preparing to leave for school. Hopefully this will be the inspiration I need even if my wallet shivers in fear.
btw there is a new two slot 4070 from zephyr, people have reported issues from capacitors being too close to the screws and causing interference but that is a simple fix
Dude, this is almost my exact setup! I dont have ram, storage or the CPU yet. But the 4060ti palit from techinn was too good to pass up as an ITX sized GPU 👌🏼👌🏼
Just a heads up, i have traveled a lot, and if they ever try to make me check a bag, i just say it has my work laptop, battery packs and powertool batteries. They have never given me an issue after that. Granted, i do have said item in the bag.
Why under volt versus just stepping down in CPU model? Seems like people choose under volting so that they can say "Here i got an R9 or I9 in this little box even though the undervolt make the CPU perform closer to the 7 or 5 models of these CPU's. At any rate, for what you wanted to do, a 13600K with an A380 would have been primo for your encoding needs. Especially the use of QuickSync and DeepLink technologies. Not to mention very good power consumption and low heat heat WITHOUT undervolting while performing pretty close to what you actually got now.
A proper under-volt hardly affects CPU performance. Not enough to be noticeable outside of benchmarking anyways. Keeping temps lower could even “increase” performance over the long term by avoiding thermal throttling.
Have you considered getting a mini water jet or laser cutter to make custom parts for things like the Velka 3 or even full custom cases for odd mobo size like deep itx etc…
Well thank god then he didn’t go for the 7800x3D then… FYI he went for 9 7950x3D TDP 175 compared the smaller thermal package of the 7800x3D of 120TDP Secondly “would have been better off with a better option” well.. yeah duh. But care to specify Finally, I’m rocking a 7800x3D in the Velka 3 and with a little underclocking it runs perfectly fine in the 70c’s at load. Yes… with the same NH-L9a cooler. Spoiler every amd chip out of the box is overclocked. Manually under clocking the chip had me see a rise in performance and fps
I often wonder why the 14700 and 14900 processors are not used in builds like this? Both have the same integrated graphics as the K series processors, but with only a 65w tdp. Both can easily be cooled with the same Noctua cooler you used in your build. They can't be overclocked, but with the same integrated graphics, they provide outstanding h.264 editing performance.
If you want to do this build: - Ryzen 7900 (non X) is a better choice for that cooler - RTX A4000 with the SFF cooler (3060 cooler mod) works incredibly well and better than a 4060ti. _ if you have the money go for the RTX A4000 ada SFF. I'm saying that because I did multiple builds using this case, severe underclocking, I did also cut the side panel to accomodate larger cooling solutions, and the most efficient and best option is definetely the 7900, the 5950X was running slower with the forced undervolt and the 7950X is really not a good fit neither. cheers.
may I ask why did you choose to go with a portable PC set-up and not with a powerfull laptop, considering the aditional gear you have to bring just to use it (keyboard, monitor, etc..)? great build btw :)
I don't really understand the CPU choice, wouldn't the normal 7950X be better, especially for productivity? I can even imagine the 7900 (non-X) being good enough while not needing a ppt adjustment.
Damn this is the most powerful 4L Ive ever seen. Do you think the same build with a 7900 (low consume) and a 4060 solo is a great deal or a 7800x3D undervolt is a better choice?
My initial reaction would be “why not a chonky gaming laptop”, but theres a lot of benefits to a custom small PC instead; it might be even more portable considering the size of power bricks on laptops these days
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I like this video format a lot. Very informative and interesting. Love the way you explain every choice and how it was catered to your specific situation.
well amd has the asrock 6600xt ITX.. love when techtubers cant even google...
I would love to see many videos like this! Packing high performance components in such a small case!
Great to see such a small case packing this much performance.
This PC is badass. It's also amazing how well a Ryzen 9 can run with such limited cooling.
AMD's last two generations have been very impressive for sure....esp their x3d development. I was very surprised that the 5800x3d was essentially a seamless entry into last gen. Typically anytime you introduce something that innovative which in it's first gen there will be a lot of issues...but AMD knocked it out of the park. The 7800x3d is even better and I wasn't sure that the jump in performance over the 5800x3d could be that big. Unfortunately, the larger core count variants of x3d don't perform as well, at least in gaming. However, as you pointed out the 7000 series x3d CPUs are insanely efficient when undervolting.
Of course, most of the upper end of the power consumption is really inefficient for pretty much all components. Cooling is overrated when you actually optimize your copmonents.
I just ordered a velka 3 last week, I'm even more excited now
no place for a case fan in the velka 3
Dude glad you are posting more frequently man ...
They have 8TB nvme drives???!!
They have 24TB NVME drives. Expensive as can be, large and they run hot, but the drives do exist.
Sabrent has had them out for several months,hella expensive but pretty damn good
@@Dragon151415 years, I believe 😂
What did that cost?!
Yeah for years at this point.
I've been using the Velka 3 with their Enhance PSU for the past couple of years, going back and forth from the metro NY area to PAX West, PAX East, and PAX Australia. For PAX East, it sits in a LTT backpack along with all its accessories. When traveling to PAX West and PAX Australia, the system sits in a SKB 2011-7 ATA travel case, along with an Asus XG17, Drop Alt keyboard, Glorious mouse, DualShock 4 controller, and USB hub. I've checked the SKB case with no issues (other than TSA forgetting to reattach my TSA locks more often than not). I've gone from a 5600/PNY 3060 to a 5700X3D/MSI 3060 Ti Aero.
The one downside is that the motherboard I/O area can get pretty toasty. I bring a small USB-powered fan and point it at the back of the case to keep things cooler, along with using a USB hub to move anything on a dongle away from the excessive heat.
I'm using Louqe's Cobalt PCIe 4.0 riser cable. The dark blue is barely visible from outside the case. The light grey cable is more noticeable than the blue.
no place for a case fan in the velka 3
so frickin nice seeing you again you will always be my favorite techtuber
yay Glad to see ya!! Miss ya!
Great build gotta love the velka case
"...but in this case, it's the hero I need." Nice double entendre.
As always another great video, helpful as always!
Great stuff Kyle!
Dear PNY, sponsor this man for an ADA A4000 "SFF/LP" with 20GB of Vram I wonder how it would stack up against the 4060 ti.
Pretty sure it's worse... Craft Computing showed it was on par with a 4060 even with the 8 GB
You can mod it with a 6pin plug and it actually does pull more than 75w if you do that. I’ve been looking into one for my home lab.
@@usr01 idk if I would shunt an A4000 LP... Maybe a second hand A2000...
It has been tested it hits about 4070 levels, with a shunt mod and a soldered on 6 pin power port
@@emilypeters8888 Someone has been watching NFC
Damn that's some fast tiny workstation, i hope it won't caught fire
Why would it catch fire?
@@RacingPotato12 form factor? But i watched the whole video so my comment doesn't makes sense
Great SFF build. And I love the Asmongold and Star Wars (ep 4) inserts at 9:53. LOL
A few years ago one of my now-roommates was interested in a portable PC for VR. An appropriate external battery setup (Jackery et al) could make this a major beast for actual VR gaming!
excited for your computex coverage!
hopefuly its better than his ces coverage
@@GhostReaper2043did you cover anything at ces or you just a whiner
u got me bricked up here
Yo 💀
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@@ruskibruski brick brothers
That's a cute little bit of kit there! Never underestimate the value of an underclock. I've been happily running my 5700x all core 3.7Ghz @ 0.950v.. I find it remarkable that it typically seems to sip around 35-38W!
You are awesome Bit thank you for all the knowledge brother.
The velka series of cases are great. I have a velka 7 and I love that case.
I was looking at review videos on a mini pc that I am considering buying and then this video pops up and now I'm stuck, thanks Kyle
I made a similar build a couple of years ago, when gpu prices skyrocketed and itx form factor was expensive, paid 950 USD for a 3060. Some of the issues I founds were:
-It was super heavy, even it was small
-Was hot to the touch while gaming
-Fan was super loud, even more than a gaming laptop
-Expensive
Pros:
- it looked so cool in desktop, was easy to setup on a tv or anywhere
-Performance was great
what I would do different:
-If it just for gaming I would stick to a ryzen 5 non X, to keep power consumption down and temps.
-Get a 250w or 300w PSU and replace the fan
how heavy?
I love small form factor. I built one of these back back...............back in the day that was also a fanless design. Highly recommend!!!
"But the fact that it can game this well, gets me kinda bricked up" hahahaha
SFF is going crazy 😮 and I like it.
1:40 what backpack is that Kyle? looks rugged/awesome, would love to buy the exact model
Looks like a Sewell MOS pack V4
I just appreciate you showing me how to properly undervolt in the new ASUS software. I know how to do it in my old 2011 Gigabyte motherboard.
I bought the other small form factor case from a couple of videos ago and that one has been working out really well for me
This couldn’t have come at a a better time. I was looking into building a new pc hopefully really small as I’m preparing to leave for school. Hopefully this will be the inspiration I need even if my wallet shivers in fear.
Looks like a super solid workhorse! Hopefully the stuff you get to cover at computech will make this thing worthwhile!
"Workhorse". Nice one.
Built it this case a couple months ago and it was super fun to plan and build. Would most definitely do it again.
@Bitwit I love it when you make PC's for people, I am sure Kyle will love his new PC.
Nice to see an RUclips PC influencer who builds a PC with more than just a 1TB SSD, plus it's a small form factor one.
For small games and emulators, this looks like a solid build
That 96 gigs really helped carry the system despite lower clock speeds and undervolting.
Him: "let me pull out my gaming desktop real quick"
Someone else: "You mean your laptop right?"
Him *smiles*
Someone else: "Your Laptop, right?"
YOURE DOING WHAT TO A DEAD HORSE?????
btw there is a new two slot 4070 from zephyr, people have reported issues from capacitors being too close to the screws and causing interference but that is a simple fix
can give me link on what riser you use?
Totally unnecessary to have a build this small, and yet it's so cute that it's absolutely indispensable.
Hi. Can you drop the link for the riser cable? Thank you.
Dude, this is almost my exact setup!
I dont have ram, storage or the CPU yet. But the 4060ti palit from techinn was too good to pass up as an ITX sized GPU 👌🏼👌🏼
Velka 3 builds are going to get more epic with 50 series!
As a laptop gamer, I can confirm you 89 C is very chill
Does the Velka 3 come with a power supply?
It has to option to be ordered with one. Best one you get too. Enhance 7660b.
Just a heads up, i have traveled a lot, and if they ever try to make me check a bag, i just say it has my work laptop, battery packs and powertool batteries. They have never given me an issue after that. Granted, i do have said item in the bag.
Nice mini case!
I'd be interested in building a rig like that. My only question is what it ended up costing?
Why under volt versus just stepping down in CPU model? Seems like people choose under volting so that they can say "Here i got an R9 or I9 in this little box even though the undervolt make the CPU perform closer to the 7 or 5 models of these CPU's. At any rate, for what you wanted to do, a 13600K with an A380 would have been primo for your encoding needs. Especially the use of QuickSync and DeepLink technologies. Not to mention very good power consumption and low heat heat WITHOUT undervolting while performing pretty close to what you actually got now.
A proper under-volt hardly affects CPU performance. Not enough to be noticeable outside of benchmarking anyways.
Keeping temps lower could even “increase” performance over the long term by avoiding thermal throttling.
Have you considered getting a mini water jet or laser cutter to make custom parts for things like the Velka 3 or even full custom cases for odd mobo size like deep itx etc…
Love you Kyle
I want to build this exact PC, can you linkto to all the components you used?
That CPU cooler is inadequate for a 7800x3d... Would have been better off with a better option
Well thank god then he didn’t go for the 7800x3D then…
FYI he went for 9 7950x3D TDP 175 compared the smaller thermal package of the 7800x3D of 120TDP
Secondly “would have been better off with a better option” well.. yeah duh. But care to specify
Finally, I’m rocking a 7800x3D in the Velka 3 and with a little underclocking it runs perfectly fine in the 70c’s at load. Yes… with the same NH-L9a cooler.
Spoiler every amd chip out of the box is overclocked. Manually under clocking the chip had me see a rise in performance and fps
Is there a video on the white pc build you have at 0:40 on the background?? I want to build something similar
portable space heater is always nice
I often wonder why the 14700 and 14900 processors are not used in builds like this? Both have the same integrated graphics as the K series processors, but with only a 65w tdp. Both can easily be cooled with the same Noctua cooler you used in your build. They can't be overclocked, but with the same integrated graphics, they provide outstanding h.264 editing performance.
Fantastic video thanks! As someone with minimal knowledge, is it easy to build on its own once I get all parts?
Awesome looking PC
thumbnail looked like a really big fan
Excellent video and quite impressive build and results! Hope it serves you well and looking forward your Computex coverage.
I was gonna do a build like this with a 12 core CPU and the Velka 3 will be perfect
Hey, where is the giveaway link? ;) Actually, that power in such a tiny build is astounding. Sweet build.
what is that backpack the first one you show in the video
I wonder how a desktop replacement laptop compares
Would love to see an update on chrometheus
If you want to do this build:
- Ryzen 7900 (non X) is a better choice for that cooler
- RTX A4000 with the SFF cooler (3060 cooler mod) works incredibly well and better than a 4060ti.
_ if you have the money go for the RTX A4000 ada SFF.
I'm saying that because I did multiple builds using this case, severe underclocking, I did also cut the side panel to accomodate larger cooling solutions, and the most efficient and best option is definetely the 7900, the 5950X was running slower with the forced undervolt and the 7950X is really not a good fit neither.
cheers.
They are selling the typographic card on Amazon. It sucks his video didn’t show us which graphic car we can get.
It's so cute!
I thought u had built a sff pc on the sktc a07?
Absolutely beautiful build. Small but mighty... much like my... pinky toe.
Your opinion on windows 11 recently?
may I ask why did you choose to go with a portable PC set-up and not with a powerfull laptop, considering the aditional gear you have to bring just to use it (keyboard, monitor, etc..)?
great build btw :)
Yes next build will be itx.
03:45 After many years of AMD being the "chips that run super hot" it's nice to see them take a bit of a win on this one, not gonna lie.
I’m number 11 to comment. Thank goodness he is back. Building PC again.
what backpack is that
I don't really understand the CPU choice, wouldn't the normal 7950X be better, especially for productivity? I can even imagine the 7900 (non-X) being good enough while not needing a ppt adjustment.
It would be about the same. Might as well get the X3D for gaming on the side
The 8TB SSD will not overheat, since no heatsink?
Wonder if it would fail at the critical moment like Paul's 7970X CES 2024 $10k System?
Kyle u r the best ... so fun
Love this. Still waiting for the new roast!
I'm surprised you went with the X3D model, rather than the 7950X. If you don't mind, what's the rationale behind that?
Maybe the 120w on the X3D compared to the 170w of the X
This was one of my plans for a similar situation for my study abroad XD. Also what was your experience like traveling with a PC.
Damn this is the most powerful 4L Ive ever seen. Do you think the same build with a 7900 (low consume) and a 4060 solo is a great deal or a 7800x3D undervolt is a better choice?
what was the length of the riser cable you used?
Wow its almost computex already and i just recently got a job wow how time flies. :)
Amazing PC
I was gonna ask why not go 30 series since some seem to outperform that 4060, but you answered that question :D
Can you bring this as cabin luggage with that power brick? Isn’t 90w the limit?
Is this a Kolink riser?
Poor dead horse.... Did Lyle write that line?
hm, how was the noise, though?
Hey there, how long is your riser cable and what brand are you using?
Damn bro I really love your presentation. You da man, Kyle! All the love.
from one Kyle to another, see you at Computex!
Is the case too small for you to use a AIO?
😂😂😂😂😂
Really making me consider building an itx PC
My initial reaction would be “why not a chonky gaming laptop”, but theres a lot of benefits to a custom small PC instead; it might be even more portable considering the size of power bricks on laptops these days