You all know how with quantum physics a particle in superposition can technically be in two different states at once? I’m almost entirely certain that’s what’s happening with Bearded Linus and Beardless Linus. They both exist but they’re unaware of one another.
It's worth noting that the weight of the PSU doesn't necessarily mean much. It was pointed out to Linus before in a previous video that if China is manufacturing a PSU to only be sold or used in China, then they don't have to bother making them dual voltage, which would make it far lighter than a PSU intended to be used in both North America and Europe.
@@Elemonator >doesnt do the test before publishing the video(presunably for time budget purposes) wasnt avoiding quantity over quality something they wanted to do?
Some one pin this comment. I personaly hate chinese products, but with greatwall I'm willing to wait for proper test before making an opinion on weight alone.
The power supply being a Chinese power supply and likely intended for Chinese distribution is probably intended to run at 220 volts. Therefore, it probably is a true 1200 watt power supply and that's why it's so light because higher voltage, less amperage, you don't need such heavy wiring and components.
Also single frequency. If the entire country uses 60hz, then they dont need two sets of capacitors and mosfets to rectify. All this simplification also affects the requirements for the primary and secondary boards and the PSU suddenly gets really light while still passing tests.
Hi brother. Where can westerners buy directly from KTC and MAXSUN, etc? More money to the manufacturers, like you guys, and prevents companies like Amazon from making a lot of money off of your wonderful hardware.
Japan has modern gaming pc brands like Mouse and ELSA. They aren't interesting like Japanese computers were in the 80s though, it's the same stuff coming out of Taiwan. Japanese keyboard brands like Happy Hacker and Realforce are interesting though, keyboard switches have a long history in Japan, I mean Cherry is Japanese. I have a Realforce myself and it's pretty neat, though hardly justifiable for the price.
The "Legacy compatibility mode" was introduced in a BIOS update back when Alder Lake was new in response to some game copy protection systems freaking out when tasks were shuffled between P- and E-cores - you should find it in pretty much every 12th/13th/14th-gen board's BIOS, though who knows where some folks bury it
On my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7, I can switch this setting on the fly with fn+K. It can either save power or improve performance, depending on the workload.
From what I'm given to understand in regards to the CPU (worked in Military aerospace in the US): Any technology that is used on anything sensitive here in the US that is defined by the US gov. as such cannot be imported to China via these security laws for US based companies. These special editions are typically a way around that, by making it a different SKU with different performance or may slight tweaks in enough areas they can now be imported without bother from the government, it's the industries worst kept secret.
In case of the CPU, I think it's a different story. 14790F(China on edition) is a cheaper (-20%) alternative to the 14700K with less E cores and more cache. 14700K is not banned in China, nor does 14900k. But there are things that are similar to your case such as Nvidia 4090D.
@@M1008 The character who lives in the 100 Acre Wood is Winnie The Poo. Xi Jinping, the Chinese head of state, absolutely hates being compared to Winnie The Poo
@PatrickMcveigh-ue8xh 20% in UK actually but its just prebaked into the final price on the website or price tag like the other comment points out that most of the world do, except that one who still is the only country not using the same measurement system as the rest of the world either... or also the only one to reject climate change and not sign the paris climate agreement on those terms, the only other didn't sign it because it wasn't _enough_ to tackle it.. They seem to have a certain kind of propensity, but you should know how our VAT system works, haven't you had or seen it been had, that argument they make that VAT is awful somehow because it _obscures_ the true cost/value and is _deceptive_ and its _stealing_ your money somehow.. What? They really think think their system is less obtuse? If you haven't had the pleasure of that one yet It's about as fun as it sounds, and like sure some places I just learned don't even have general statewide taxes on some or all things, idk what the ramifications are or how its achieved etc yet, but sometimes its higher sometimes lower, depends on where and what etc, so weird and they can get caught out on the taxes thing and have to do it all manually? IDK so weird to me. And most of the world apparently. I don't get it; what's worth defending about that or makes ours weirder or worse?? Just because its standardised and automatic doesn't make it worse
One of the best videos you’ve done lately - with major kudos to the writing team for the hard research and providing viewers with ample context. Heard about this one upcoming from the WAN show, did not disappoint!
One of the best videos? They didn't even benchmark the slow SSD, Labs didn't test the PSU, even though they've invested heavily into PSU testing hardware! Not even a Cinebench test?? The only "data" we got was a frame counter in CS2. It's actually a really bad video.
This wasn't a review of any sort, what the hell are you guys talking about, it's not like you will order these components from china or anything. And I think this is one of their best videos. Kudos to Linus, he's the best....
Isn't his wife from the ccp ...china...? Why is he being a spokesperson for the CCP in this video?! (Even if his wife is not form china) Everyone knows that China does not innovate, they steal and replicate other countries tech! Is his wife in danger, or is he a CCP puppet!? Does he love China more than than his own country of Canada! Why would he make a pro CCP video!
This was a really cool build video. Especially appreciated the context on the different companies and who owned them and what other things they’ve done. Would love to see this repeated for other countries.
I would love to see a full European build, but I don't even know if there are CPU, GPU or motherboard manufacturers here in Europe. Didn't even know Fractal Design, BeQuiet and Noctua were European Honestly: looks like Europe also needs somekind of "Made in Europe 2035" campaign
@@TrIs1493 Europe doesn't have the kind of industrial capacity to replicate China. Too many greedy corporations. Too fractured with bureaucratic bs. They'd rather bicker with each other for a hundred years than actually make something.
9:00 being compared to Asus is bad in China because back in 2018, someone ordered a supposedly new ROG laptop online and when he went to the shop to retrieve and pay for it, he was informed that the laptop is in fact refurbished, and he also needed to pay more than what he initially agreed on, after some arguments he was beating by 5 Asus employees then thrown out of the store.
That ZHITAI PC005 Active 1TB SSD is almost a 4-year old product. YMTC do have some drives which offers much higher performance, like TiPlus 7100 (PCI-E gen 4 w/HMB), TiPro 7000 (PCI-E gen 4 w/DRAM cache), etc. Combined with Maxio and Innogrit's PCI-E gen 4 controllers their speed is pretty awesome. I personally have a few of them on my PC and NAS.
I bought every single component of my brother's pc whilst visiting family in china, then went back to the uk with it. An all white, rtx 3080 i5-12600k pc with a 2k 144hz monitor setup only costed £1000 all new
@@p0358 When you declare it correctly and pay the consumption taxes at the border - why would you get a problem? He was talking about original products, not counterfeits. You are allowed to import original stuff everywhere, just have your bill from the purchase with you so that you not have to pay taxes on the MSRP but what you really paid for.
Numerous YT vids show that it usually costs about as much as the US, if not a little more. You can't go buy a Millse or Killsre GPU and then compare the price to an Asus or Gigabyte GPU. A Machinist MB is not the same as one from a major manufacturer. KingFast is not the same as Kingston. If you list the price of the build without a full spec sheet, it is a nebulous comment anyway. You might have got a deal; you might have been totally ripped off. We don't know. China is hard at work remanufacturing GPUs. You can call it a 'new'' GPU all you want but it isn't. I guarantee those new manufacture boards are not anywhere near the quality of the original.
@@Lurch-Bot I can assure you the total build price will be cheaper even with comparable products. Not a lot cheaper, but still cheaper. For example, the msi Z690I is cheaper in china than in us, cases, psu, and coolers are a lot cheaper, ram are somewhat comparable but there are some deals out there, not sure about storage because i didnt look much into it.
@@acmenipponair lemme clarify, we didnt even need to pay consumption tax 😂. It was considered as part of our 23kg luggages as we traveled in a group and there was still one unused luggage allocation and the people at customs didnt declare it as an export good.
@@xnopyt13 Nevermind. This video showed a mouse with switches you can change by a toggle while the ones I was thinking of was for the ability to easily replace he switches after they’re worn out.
It’s a bit weird that PC005 is in the build. It’s the very first of YMTC’s SSDs with only 64-layer TLC and gen3 link and released back in 2020. Now they offer 232-layer NAND chips on their own Zhitai brand and many 3rd party SSDs in domestic market and are really competitive with micron or kioxia solutions. These SSDs often boasts higher erase/write counts (for example 3600TBW on a 2TB drive) and the price tends to be slightly lower. I’ve just shipped two drives from China to the states for my NAS and they are of great value👍
They ought to put on a ZHITAI Ti7000 Pro or TiPlus7100. Using only the PC005 is a bit, biased I'd say? Also, if they wanted a graphics card with better reputation they can try the Colorful, which was founded in Shenzhen.
They are doing pretty well actually. Their products are highly competitive in Chinese market now.I'm using f75pro($35) from AULA and it's very impressive.
Good video! I love this beautiful and well detailed and insightful look into the specific hardware setups that the cheaters in Escape from Tarkov use to head/eyes me every raid ultimately leaving me with no kits mid-wipe.
A few months ago, I bought several SSDs on Taobao. The brand is Acer GM7. It is a PCIe 4.0 SSD with a capacity of 2TB and a read speed of 7000MB/S. What surprises me most is the price. A 2TB PCIE4.0 SSD only costs 499 RMB (about 70 US dollars). I bought 3 of them and now two of them are in my computer.
Is this the price excluding shipping and tax? You are lucky because SSDs have recently seen a significant price increase, and the Acer GM7 is a great SSD. I was surprised that Linus did not actually use the zhitai ti plus 7000, as they have high-performance PCIE4.0 solid-state drives and are known for their powerful performance and reliability. However, PC005 is also a very popular model. I currently have one for storing games, which has been running for 17000 hours and has a 95% health rating. This SSD was popular during the Bitcoin wave due to its incredible stability.
@@Marty-o5oeverything on taobao is after tax, there’s no such thing as state tax or combined sale tax in China. Or we just don’t know it, but ¥499 is the final price and it’s likely to be free shipping (even if it’s not it would be likely to cost as little as ¥5 or ¥10, $1 usd or something)
i dunno man, good mechanical keyboards can get at that price really easy
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Epomaker x Aula F75 with reaper switches is the best budget option right now, sounds like high end mech keyboards while being stock and is SO damn cheap
Honestly it's a very good motherboard approach that I would like to see more manufacturers adopt this type of priority. It has an average VRM just like any other entry Z790, but it's feature packed with stuff that most people would be able to use, enjoy, and utilize; 7 Segment display, premium "look" design / rgb & aesthetics, decent IO and storage ports, etc. All kinds of features that usually only exists in $450 or above boards, yet at a very affordable price. The current trend in motherboards is that you either buy the very skimped, cheap ones, or you have to buy the grossly overpriced high end boards, even though all you wanted was the aesthetics, ports, and storage slots. The majority of people does not need overkill VRMs unless they're hardcore overclockers, but people can certainly use the abundant of ports that only exist in high end boards. It's the equivalent of having to buy a fruit hampers even though the only one you wanted was apples and oranges since they no longer sold them separately anymore.
5:12 wait wait hold up! Some random Chinese brand CAN include SSD screws but Samsung refuses to include those? Those screws are ludicrously easy to lose and somehow impossible to buy at a reasonable price unless you are willing to wait 3 weeks on AliExpress xD
No CXMT-based RAM, no MTT GPU, did not mention Loongson. I understand if those are difficult to obtain or not usable enough (or are not compatible with each other, especially Loongson and MTT), but can't really be a 100% Chinese PC without those. Still a great video. I wonder if there ever will be a moment when it'll be possible to build and showcase a 100% Russian PC on a western YT channel. Russia basically has every component besides NAND flash, GPUs and (conventional) cooling. x86 motherboards, for example, are aplenty in the public procurement market, as are SSDs and RAM (although all of them still use nearly 100% imported components nearly 100% of the time)
True. The issue with MTT is that their GPUs are currently held up by the driver, the perfornance is not bad but you are stuck with OpenGL games only. Regarding Loongson, their latest 3A6000 processor took a great leap but the unique architecture meant that we'll never see much proprietory software released for LA64 (a win for the open source community haha).
@@AndRei-yc3ti yes, there is such a factory called GS Nanotech, unfortunately they don't exactly make chips from scratch. But it's very close. Imported 300mm wafers from Toshiba, Micron etc are cut, tested and packaged as NAND flash chips. This is still a highly technologically advanced process, the only thing they are lacking at this point is actual raw silicon and a lithography machine to print the flash memory. Until recently they only made SSDs featuring their own packaged NAND flash, but they also started to make DDR4 RAM sticks. Although they are made using imported flash packages, that might change soon, considering that the first GS SSDs were also made with finished Micron chips (I even have one of those early ssds on hand)
@@marcusborderlands6177you mean the US of A (yeah right, the looming machine technology from UK), Japan and Korea? And probably everyone else back in the days (edit: not even that long ago)? Oh, India is another offender on this. So yup.
@@あなた以外の誰でもない same thing here, usually shipping + customs fee is around 80~120$, depending on the seller, that is why I was asking to get a rough approximate
Did a RTX 4070 build with an I Craft z690 board and a 12900k. It was a very nice board, nice RGB and came with features you only see on strix or more expensive boards imo. Came with stickers, a screwdriver set and the mounting plate as a bonus. I kept the tools and plate, gave the stickers to my little girls and sold that pc for $1519 U.S.
Guys you should include measured Δ's for values like the keyboard switch measurements, especially if you say stuff. Like "we measured great consistency" else that statement comes down to "trust me bro"
LTT is just entertainment anyway. Not to be taken seriously for any scientific analysis. They can buy all the fancy instruments they want but at the end of the day, they don't really know how to use them properly or how to interpret results because they aren't scientists. A CS degree doesn't count. That is a 'technology' not a 'science'. The science behind it is called 'physics'.
At reading the title I was like " Anything is made in China anyways" but then it was more like " Stuff from China under offbrand names with good quality"
I spent $140 last year to buy a 4TB SSD,is third -party brands utilize YMTC 232-layer NAND. it still work stable and outstanding performance.@@aydenchu7437
Let’s see what you say again? In addition to CPU and GPU, any other motherboard, power supply, mouse, keyboard, monitor. All are Chinese brands and made in China
AULA is coming for the western market now, funny thing is i talked with the product manager and ceo at the ifa in berlin last week and those keyboards they had there... INSANE for the price! cant wait till then
8:38 that looks cool asf tbh I’d like to see more pc builds from other markets around the world see what it’s like for someone else to buy and build a pc maybe find a cool reliable part for cheaper in another market than what you would in your own
As someone who has used a similar chinese cheap keyboard, I can say that the experience was great.. for the 1.5 years it lasted before the low quality switches died completely.
Don't be surprised, other models that are better than this keyboard can be purchased in China for around 300 RMB (around 41 USD), and there are countless styles that are more cool, functional, and have a better sound than this one. And high-performance gaming mice only cost 69 RMB (around 9.5 USD) In fact, the PC market in China is very diversified, and you can find various magical products that do not exist in the West, such as the YTX motherboard displayed by Linus before, various ITX cases, a variety of sea view room cases, and dazzling PC products, from the lowest price practical to the most luxurious and cool.
oh I got the smaller version of that keyboard, the F75, it’s very nice. High quality key caps, great sound, nice switches. It’s not metal or anything but it’s lovely for the price
Yeah, why is it Asian companies seem to manufacture everything? Meanwhile, IBM just gave up on the PC industry. Mitsubishi is a great example of a company that tries to make everything and does it poorly. Even the Lancer Evo was a mediocre car with too much power. They lost a direct rivalry with Subaru🤦♂🤦♂
Only broke tradies would buy GWM Ute. The only reason to buy these Chinese industrial waste is because they are cheap. I’d ask to leave if I saw a tradie drives a Chinese Ute. It means he doesn’t care about quality of his job.
@@Lurch-Bot`subaru actually ALSO does everything, same as hitachi and toyota. you dont know too much about asian companies, look at samsung, look at the other famous asian companies. they are nearly ALL hundreds of years old family businesses, they have many family branches that do different shit.
No benchmarks? Not even the SSD? You mention that the PSU seems very light, but you haven't tested it even though Labs have the equipment to test PSUs? Is it a fire hazard? Well who TF knows! Very low effort video.
ssd is old back to 2020. no need to benchmak that. ZhiTai 7000 beats my samsung 990pro or similar. PSU is light because china got 220V, it is 120V in the US. so it is light but good. In addition to China's inability to produce top-notch CPUs and GPUs, I donot understand that people are still biased against Chinese electronic products.
@@XuesongWang-s5xthe best part is, they write this on their chinese made keyboard while looking at their chinese assembled display, if not even chinese made.
@@chaosbringer5248 Never heard of an Nvidia GPU, AMD GPU or Intel GPU or CPU made in China but I guess you know better. Taiwan is where things are manufactured but all the engineering and design is happening in the US.
You all know how with quantum physics a particle in superposition can technically be in two different states at once? I’m almost entirely certain that’s what’s happening with Bearded Linus and Beardless Linus. They both exist but they’re unaware of one another.
😊👍🏼Linus tech
HAHA YES
You went super scientific for the purpose of that joke delivery... I like it 🫡
the joke slaps and its scientific respect man🫡🫡🫡
You don't know if he is bearded or beardless until you click a video and observe him.
It's worth noting that the weight of the PSU doesn't necessarily mean much. It was pointed out to Linus before in a previous video that if China is manufacturing a PSU to only be sold or used in China, then they don't have to bother making them dual voltage, which would make it far lighter than a PSU intended to be used in both North America and Europe.
Some manufacturers just put bolts to make them heavier
Why didn't they test the PSU? They have the equipment!
@@LordManhattanthey are going to, they just haven’t yet. Once they do, it’s going to be a pinned comment.
@@Elemonator >doesnt do the test before publishing the video(presunably for time budget purposes) wasnt avoiding quantity over quality something they wanted to do?
Some one pin this comment. I personaly hate chinese products, but with greatwall I'm willing to wait for proper test before making an opinion on weight alone.
The power supply being a Chinese power supply and likely intended for Chinese distribution is probably intended to run at 220 volts. Therefore, it probably is a true 1200 watt power supply and that's why it's so light because higher voltage, less amperage, you don't need such heavy wiring and components.
It is rated for 100-240V
@@tannermccoolman4647 if its a china exclusive, its probably not because the intended use is only for them
Also single frequency. If the entire country uses 60hz, then they dont need two sets of capacitors and mosfets to rectify. All this simplification also affects the requirements for the primary and secondary boards and the PSU suddenly gets really light while still passing tests.
@@NothingXemnas most higher grade PSU support 50/60hz and 96 to 264V.
unless you want to cut cost
@@Soras_I too like to skip reading and start yapping
Shaved linus is such a jumpscare
lol 😂
He couldn't help it: he got a facial 😉
Feels like 2013
@@BaileyMagikz he did shave because of face care being the same price for full face as for half cause of the beard
@@suspeh But he was beardless untill 2020....
The subtitles which are like those comments on BiliBili are so hilarious. Wonder if it was Andy's idea
Do you know what they say? I'm genuinely curious.
@@TheGeneralBanan just component names except for the kawaii one which says kawaii isn't even Chinese
It was - LS
the kawaii one should be " wait... kawaii is not even chinese..."
@seph Nope, it doesn't say "kawaii in Chinese is also kawaii", but rather "Wait... This kawaii isn't even Chinese..." ("等等。。。這卡哇伊也不是中文啊。。。")
Hey Linus, thanks for the shoutout! Glad you're loving our stuff. From China to Amazon, KTC's on a roll! Happy gaming to all! 🎮
1995?looks awesome
Just bought H27P22S
KTC nb
@omarmego5018 ofc xianyu
Hi brother. Where can westerners buy directly from KTC and MAXSUN, etc? More money to the manufacturers, like you guys, and prevents companies like Amazon from making a lot of money off of your wonderful hardware.
Meanwhile the All Japan PC is literally an office computer from 2002, built from before most regular PC users were born
Japan is a country that reached the 2000s in the 80s and has stayed there ever since.
Japan has modern gaming pc brands like Mouse and ELSA. They aren't interesting like Japanese computers were in the 80s though, it's the same stuff coming out of Taiwan. Japanese keyboard brands like Happy Hacker and Realforce are interesting though, keyboard switches have a long history in Japan, I mean Cherry is Japanese. I have a Realforce myself and it's pretty neat, though hardly justifiable for the price.
@@Idiomatick
I don't blame them, those were better times.
@@Chuck_Huckler Now that you mention it I agree. Incould love to live in the 80’s but with modern technology.
@@Idiomatickcuz of 2008 and they never recovered
The "Legacy compatibility mode" was introduced in a BIOS update back when Alder Lake was new in response to some game copy protection systems freaking out when tasks were shuffled between P- and E-cores - you should find it in pretty much every 12th/13th/14th-gen board's BIOS, though who knows where some folks bury it
In mine at least it allows you to turn on and off cores manually in the bios, but no on the fly changing like this one does.
On my Lenovo Legion 7i Gen 7, I can switch this setting on the fly with fn+K. It can either save power or improve performance, depending on the workload.
I have this setting in my Asrock "bios" as well. 1 year old.
That's what I wanted to say, my asus tuf h670 has it
Asus rog laptops with alder lake have this even in Armoury Crate
17:18 my heart nearly dropped when you rotated the PC
holy shit, i didn't see that till you said it. YIKES.
Ion get it
@@thembrownbois9283 the side panel was resting on the back of the case4 and almost fell off the counter
It's such a "Linus" move.
i flinched to grab it
From what I'm given to understand in regards to the CPU (worked in Military aerospace in the US): Any technology that is used on anything sensitive here in the US that is defined by the US gov. as such cannot be imported to China via these security laws for US based companies. These special editions are typically a way around that, by making it a different SKU with different performance or may slight tweaks in enough areas they can now be imported without bother from the government, it's the industries worst kept secret.
In case of the CPU, I think it's a different story. 14790F(China on edition) is a cheaper (-20%) alternative to the 14700K with less E cores and more cache. 14700K is not banned in China, nor does 14900k. But there are things that are similar to your case such as Nvidia 4090D.
That 100 Acre Wood line caught me so off guard haha
Non native and no very bright here!
Could someone explain what does that mean?
Thanks!
@@M1008its the place Winnie the pooh is from
@@M1008 The character who lives in the 100 Acre Wood is Winnie The Poo. Xi Jinping, the Chinese head of state, absolutely hates being compared to Winnie The Poo
@@MillieMosesTo the extent that the character is banned in China.
@@TheKazragoreThe character is not banned, but people will be punished if they make fun of him using Winnie-the-Pooh.
BTW the prices you see on Chinese websites are all after tax. So what you see is what you gonna pay for in the end. There is no x plus tax thing.
Ye it's like that in nearly every country apart from the US. So much better to know full price like in EU and China from the get go
no tax here in uk on purchases
让人们清楚地知道他们已经缴纳了多少税款是一件好事
@@JahinIslam-zo3oj 同意的
@PatrickMcveigh-ue8xh 20% in UK actually but its just prebaked into the final price on the website or price tag like the other comment points out that most of the world do, except that one who still is the only country not using the same measurement system as the rest of the world either... or also the only one to reject climate change and not sign the paris climate agreement on those terms, the only other didn't sign it because it wasn't _enough_ to tackle it..
They seem to have a certain kind of propensity, but you should know how our VAT system works, haven't you had or seen it been had, that argument they make that VAT is awful somehow because it _obscures_ the true cost/value and is _deceptive_ and its _stealing_ your money somehow.. What? They really think think their system is less obtuse? If you haven't had the pleasure of that one yet It's about as fun as it sounds, and like sure some places I just learned don't even have general statewide taxes on some or all things, idk what the ramifications are or how its achieved etc yet, but sometimes its higher sometimes lower, depends on where and what etc, so weird and they can get caught out on the taxes thing and have to do it all manually? IDK so weird to me. And most of the world apparently. I don't get it; what's worth defending about that or makes ours weirder or worse?? Just because its standardised and automatic doesn't make it worse
One of the best videos you’ve done lately - with major kudos to the writing team for the hard research and providing viewers with ample context. Heard about this one upcoming from the WAN show, did not disappoint!
One of the best videos? They didn't even benchmark the slow SSD, Labs didn't test the PSU, even though they've invested heavily into PSU testing hardware! Not even a Cinebench test?? The only "data" we got was a frame counter in CS2. It's actually a really bad video.
This wasn't a review of any sort, what the hell are you guys talking about, it's not like you will order these components from china or anything. And I think this is one of their best videos. Kudos to Linus, he's the best....
Isn't his wife from the ccp ...china...? Why is he being a spokesperson for the CCP in this video?! (Even if his wife is not form china) Everyone knows that China does not innovate, they steal and replicate other countries tech! Is his wife in danger, or is he a CCP puppet!? Does he love China more than than his own country of Canada! Why would he make a pro CCP video!
@unholydonuts sure at this point you might as well say anything on the internet that doesn't say negative things about China is propaganda
This was a really cool build video. Especially appreciated the context on the different companies and who owned them and what other things they’ve done. Would love to see this repeated for other countries.
I would love to see a full European build, but I don't even know if there are CPU, GPU or motherboard manufacturers here in Europe. Didn't even know Fractal Design, BeQuiet and Noctua were European Honestly: looks like Europe also needs somekind of "Made in Europe 2035" campaign
Not sure who'd fund that though. The Chinese have put lots of money into chips. Like probably more than half a trillion@@TrIs1493
bequiet are germans, in europe made in german is often high quality and robust@@TrIs1493
@@TrIs1493we really need because our market is purely dependent on others
@@TrIs1493 Europe doesn't have the kind of industrial capacity to replicate China. Too many greedy corporations. Too fractured with bureaucratic bs. They'd rather bicker with each other for a hundred years than actually make something.
The Zhitai PC005 SSD is made for Server storage XD, Zhitai 7000 series and 7100 series are made for personal PC storage.
Naming a power supply fire is a questionable move
Maybe it really lives up to the name
better name it kcas
Well...what would you chose? Water, Earth or Air? ^_^
I'd say it's a fire move
How about FYRE, then? Wait......
9:00 being compared to Asus is bad in China because back in 2018, someone ordered a supposedly new ROG laptop online and when he went to the shop to retrieve and pay for it, he was informed that the laptop is in fact refurbished, and he also needed to pay more than what he initially agreed on, after some arguments he was beating by 5 Asus employees then thrown out of the store.
damn man you gotta be john wick in china just not to get scammed to game...
Asus from China too
1 history for 1 shop. What is the link to Asus brand?
@@jeanbon6084It turned into a meme that everyone references when talking about bad sales and customer supports.
@@shiion6711 its from taiwan
That ZHITAI PC005 Active 1TB SSD is almost a 4-year old product.
YMTC do have some drives which offers much higher performance, like TiPlus 7100 (PCI-E gen 4 w/HMB), TiPro 7000 (PCI-E gen 4 w/DRAM cache), etc.
Combined with Maxio and Innogrit's PCI-E gen 4 controllers their speed is pretty awesome.
I personally have a few of them on my PC and NAS.
4 years ago is just 2020 bruh
@@rayquan-c1n SSDs have improved a lot.
Who would imagine gen 4 drives to be this widespread like today, right?
yep,TiPlus7100 is the best drive of all YMTC products. But I did't have one 😢. I only have PC005, SC001 and TiPlus5000
I got a TiPlus5000, it''s great.
I got a Tiplus7100 and a Tiplus5000,I very like them.😄
The mouse and keyboard were so cool! The mouse having the option for quiet or clicky is actually so awesome!
I bought a KTC 19 inch monitor back in 2007 and use it for little more then 10 years. I have great experience using it
I bought every single component of my brother's pc whilst visiting family in china, then went back to the uk with it. An all white, rtx 3080 i5-12600k pc with a 2k 144hz monitor setup only costed £1000 all new
You had no issues moving that through borders?
@@p0358 When you declare it correctly and pay the consumption taxes at the border - why would you get a problem? He was talking about original products, not counterfeits. You are allowed to import original stuff everywhere, just have your bill from the purchase with you so that you not have to pay taxes on the MSRP but what you really paid for.
Numerous YT vids show that it usually costs about as much as the US, if not a little more. You can't go buy a Millse or Killsre GPU and then compare the price to an Asus or Gigabyte GPU. A Machinist MB is not the same as one from a major manufacturer. KingFast is not the same as Kingston.
If you list the price of the build without a full spec sheet, it is a nebulous comment anyway. You might have got a deal; you might have been totally ripped off. We don't know.
China is hard at work remanufacturing GPUs. You can call it a 'new'' GPU all you want but it isn't. I guarantee those new manufacture boards are not anywhere near the quality of the original.
@@Lurch-Bot I can assure you the total build price will be cheaper even with comparable products.
Not a lot cheaper, but still cheaper.
For example, the msi Z690I is cheaper in china than in us, cases, psu, and coolers are a lot cheaper, ram are somewhat comparable but there are some deals out there, not sure about storage because i didnt look much into it.
@@acmenipponair lemme clarify, we didnt even need to pay consumption tax 😂. It was considered as part of our 23kg luggages as we traveled in a group and there was still one unused luggage allocation and the people at customs didnt declare it as an export good.
I'm now sold that there are 2 different Linus Sebastians in this world. Bearded and shaved Linus.
What if he sold the company for a $100M to clone himself just for the memes?!?!
@@mattrogers6646 holy shii, I think you're right 😨
One's pro Taiwan. The other one is pro CCP. Which one's which?
the ram to ssd transition was SICK
good writing
11:36 Wtf, that was a jumpscare. Never thought I would hear about Belarus in such context
17:18 almost gave me a flash back of tempered glass shattering due to genius placement while servicing a PC.
Switchable mouse switches is a really cool idea.
@@lucasrem I would like to have both a silent switch and an normal switch
I think Asus or some other company did mice that allowed you to easily change the switches about a decade ago.
@@mbsfaridi interesting
@@xnopyt13 Nevermind. This video showed a mouse with switches you can change by a toggle while the ones I was thinking of was for the ability to easily replace he switches after they’re worn out.
It’s a bit weird that PC005 is in the build. It’s the very first of YMTC’s SSDs with only 64-layer TLC and gen3 link and released back in 2020. Now they offer 232-layer NAND chips on their own Zhitai brand and many 3rd party SSDs in domestic market and are really competitive with micron or kioxia solutions. These SSDs often boasts higher erase/write counts (for example 3600TBW on a 2TB drive) and the price tends to be slightly lower. I’ve just shipped two drives from China to the states for my NAS and they are of great value👍
They ought to put on a ZHITAI Ti7000 Pro or TiPlus7100. Using only the PC005 is a bit, biased I'd say? Also, if they wanted a graphics card with better reputation they can try the Colorful, which was founded in Shenzhen.
I have bought two tiplus7100 and they work well in my laptop and desktop
Nice comment🎉
What i find funny is my first keyboard and headset when i was 12 were AULA products. Strange to see they are still around.
They are doing pretty well actually. Their products are highly competitive in Chinese market now.I'm using f75pro($35) from AULA and it's very impressive.
Good video! I love this beautiful and well detailed and insightful look into the specific hardware setups that the cheaters in Escape from Tarkov use to head/eyes me every raid ultimately leaving me with no kits mid-wipe.
A few months ago, I bought several SSDs on Taobao. The brand is Acer GM7. It is a PCIe 4.0 SSD with a capacity of 2TB and a read speed of 7000MB/S.
What surprises me most is the price. A 2TB PCIE4.0 SSD only costs 499 RMB (about 70 US dollars).
I bought 3 of them and now two of them are in my computer.
Is this the price excluding shipping and tax? You are lucky because SSDs have recently seen a significant price increase, and the Acer GM7 is a great SSD.
I was surprised that Linus did not actually use the zhitai ti plus 7000, as they have high-performance PCIE4.0 solid-state drives and are known for their powerful performance and reliability.
However, PC005 is also a very popular model. I currently have one for storing games, which has been running for 17000 hours and has a 95% health rating. This SSD was popular during the Bitcoin wave due to its incredible stability.
now is ¥999 or $130
its not a good time to buy ssd in china right now,it has been much more expensive recently.
but it may still be cheap for you guys
@@Marty-o5oeverything on taobao is after tax, there’s no such thing as state tax or combined sale tax in China. Or we just don’t know it, but ¥499 is the final price and it’s likely to be free shipping (even if it’s not it would be likely to cost as little as ¥5 or ¥10, $1 usd or something)
The Chinese “subtitles” are so funny, keep it up! LOVE FROM CHINA!!
we bili bili now
For 50 dollars that keyboard is a steal
For 50 bucks you also find Royal Kludge. They make great keyboards. I daily one for a year now and its so nice.
which cost $15 in the mainland
i dunno man, good mechanical keyboards can get at that price really easy
Epomaker x Aula F75 with reaper switches is the best budget option right now, sounds like high end mech keyboards while being stock and is SO damn cheap
@@helloukw RK has bad QC😅
13:22 YES another collection to Linus Drop Tips!!!
The look of intense distress on his face was priceless.
1:16 lmao the change from beard Linus to young Linus (no beard)
29.2.24
ADs make Linus de-aged confirmed
The Chinese characters going across the screen like on Bilibili was funny lol
a lot of people might not have know, but a lot of big brands Asus/giga/corsair especially the PSU, is OEM by china 😂
Yup. That's why they able to steal their IP and make their own... it's pretty much the same with cheaper components and a new sticker.
I honest to God thought he was going to say "and the government is DEAD SET...on obtaining Taiwan" at 19:41
well, that would sure eliminate foreign dependencies by a lot ;)
Linus has "unshaved"
lol must be an old video he just remembered to upload
@@TNGJOSH with that many videos, he can easily forget one 😂
W beard
Honestly it's a very good motherboard approach that I would like to see more manufacturers adopt this type of priority. It has an average VRM just like any other entry Z790, but it's feature packed with stuff that most people would be able to use, enjoy, and utilize; 7 Segment display, premium "look" design / rgb & aesthetics, decent IO and storage ports, etc. All kinds of features that usually only exists in $450 or above boards, yet at a very affordable price.
The current trend in motherboards is that you either buy the very skimped, cheap ones, or you have to buy the grossly overpriced high end boards, even though all you wanted was the aesthetics, ports, and storage slots. The majority of people does not need overkill VRMs unless they're hardcore overclockers, but people can certainly use the abundant of ports that only exist in high end boards. It's the equivalent of having to buy a fruit hampers even though the only one you wanted was apples and oranges since they no longer sold them separately anymore.
*Missed opportunity to use the 7900 GRE*
Or 4090D
Even though the 7900 GRE isn't exclusive to China anymore... I agree.
This video was probably like 6 months in the making as everything that concerns stuff that isnt just sent to them :P
Then linus might have had to buy something.
bearded linus and shaven linus coexisting in the same universe. i like that
A lot of research went into this one, good work yall
3:38 that "OW" unironically was the best acting from Linus I've ever seen. I was genuinely concerned for a sec there
"All China PC"-- you've had some crazy ideas but this one is just over the top
I thought my PC was mostly china already.
I REALLY wanna see the whole build with that white gpu it looks sooooo cool
Would be nice to know the final price of the whole build, how much it would cost.
in China , maybe 2000 Dollar
12490f+6750gre,a whool new PC that spend about 5000人民币rmb≈700usd,it is enough to play most of game。
Bought the case, the quality is better than I expected! Love it and helped lower my gpu temps by 3-4 degrees!
17:15 that side panel resting against the back of the case while he moves the PC. Giving me PTSD Linus!
Guess I was expecting some kind of Loongson or Zhaoxin CPU and a MTT GPU with the "ALL China PC".
5:12 wait wait hold up! Some random Chinese brand CAN include SSD screws but Samsung refuses to include those? Those screws are ludicrously easy to lose and somehow impossible to buy at a reasonable price unless you are willing to wait 3 weeks on AliExpress xD
I got a couple dozen of them on Amazon for a few bucks.
So much knowledge about Chinese companies...!! Thank you for all the knowledge !!
That keyboard sounds amazing and mouse is really cool too
14:38 was smooth AF.
true smooth and clean
No CXMT-based RAM, no MTT GPU, did not mention Loongson. I understand if those are difficult to obtain or not usable enough (or are not compatible with each other, especially Loongson and MTT), but can't really be a 100% Chinese PC without those. Still a great video.
I wonder if there ever will be a moment when it'll be possible to build and showcase a 100% Russian PC on a western YT channel. Russia basically has every component besides NAND flash, GPUs and (conventional) cooling. x86 motherboards, for example, are aplenty in the public procurement market, as are SSDs and RAM (although all of them still use nearly 100% imported components nearly 100% of the time)
True. The issue with MTT is that their GPUs are currently held up by the driver, the perfornance is not bad but you are stuck with OpenGL games only. Regarding Loongson, their latest 3A6000 processor took a great leap but the unique architecture meant that we'll never see much proprietory software released for LA64 (a win for the open source community haha).
I'm already working on all these ideas. Import laws are really something
Doesnt Russia have a factory in Kaliningrad making their own memory modules almost entirely from scratch?
@@AndRei-yc3ti yes, there is such a factory called GS Nanotech, unfortunately they don't exactly make chips from scratch. But it's very close. Imported 300mm wafers from Toshiba, Micron etc are cut, tested and packaged as NAND flash chips. This is still a highly technologically advanced process, the only thing they are lacking at this point is actual raw silicon and a lithography machine to print the flash memory.
Until recently they only made SSDs featuring their own packaged NAND flash, but they also started to make DDR4 RAM sticks. Although they are made using imported flash packages, that might change soon, considering that the first GS SSDs were also made with finished Micron chips (I even have one of those early ssds on hand)
@realN1K3X ah so they have no fab process of their own? Why call them Russian if they dont use domestic components?
As a chinese i approve the pc parts picked in this video. they really did their homework on this one.
得了吧,2024年还买一块pc005就知道什么尿性了
I've had my KTC 24-inch TV for over a decade now. Still works alright.
from KTC
whole pc is lit. love the sound on that keyboard and all those interesting features on the mouse and gpu
Why is the attitude investagatory and accusative when its about china but other name brand PC parts never face that scrutiny here 4:00 like why
Becuase of the history of IP theft, blatant copying, and patent infringements
@@marcusborderlands6177you talk red
@@marcusborderlands6177You act like a communist
@@marcusborderlands6177 have you heard of the united states?
@@marcusborderlands6177you mean the US of A (yeah right, the looming machine technology from UK), Japan and Korea? And probably everyone else back in the days (edit: not even that long ago)? Oh, India is another offender on this. So yup.
So... How much did the entire setup cost with shipping? Is it worth it to buy them and await shipping or do taxes and customs fees apply ?
As a guy from China and living in Canada using pc parts shipped from China, my answer is No.
idk about US, but i bought things from Japan to EU and the taxes + custom fee were like 40% of the product price, may vary depending the product tho
@@あなた以外の誰でもない same thing here, usually shipping + customs fee is around 80~120$, depending on the seller, that is why I was asking to get a rough approximate
in aus, you only pay 10% tax for these Import
Did a RTX 4070 build with an I Craft z690 board and a 12900k. It was a very nice board, nice RGB and came with features you only see on strix or more expensive boards imo. Came with stickers, a screwdriver set and the mounting plate as a bonus. I kept the tools and plate, gave the stickers to my little girls and sold that pc for $1519 U.S.
0:18 The most brutal roast ever by Linus.
Friggin’ GLORIOUS
Not brutal at all, it was never banned btw
6:54 like how the noctua a14 looks identical to the thermalright ty143 🧐
Honestly the black gpu being a constracting, centeral focus of a Gaming PC build kind of works, i dig it
Guys you should include measured Δ's for values like the keyboard switch measurements, especially if you say stuff. Like "we measured great consistency" else that statement comes down to "trust me bro"
LTT is just entertainment anyway. Not to be taken seriously for any scientific analysis. They can buy all the fancy instruments they want but at the end of the day, they don't really know how to use them properly or how to interpret results because they aren't scientists. A CS degree doesn't count. That is a 'technology' not a 'science'. The science behind it is called 'physics'.
Is that not 16:09?
@@crispo5136that's exactly where it's missing. The averagees alone don't say anything about consistency
At reading the title I was like " Anything is made in China anyways" but then it was more like " Stuff from China under offbrand names with good quality"
and with reasonal price
Poor choice of title. LTT still can't manage to say what they mean.
I spent $140 last year to buy a 4TB SSD,is third -party brands utilize YMTC 232-layer NAND. it still work stable and outstanding performance.@@aydenchu7437
These are not offbrands, it's brands that are not so well-known in the overseas
Let’s see what you say again? In addition to CPU and GPU, any other motherboard, power supply, mouse, keyboard, monitor. All are Chinese brands and made in China
AULA is coming for the western market now, funny thing is i talked with the product manager and ceo at the ifa in berlin last week and those keyboards they had there... INSANE for the price! cant wait till then
At 0:13, Linus was banned from China (P.s: They want their TV back)
“Gamer best choice” seems legit
The build looks actually pretty nice.
The 100 Acre Wood comment was absolutely mint. Well done.
Especially it's a burning wood. How fitting :D
2:27 ....when you accidently press when unplug or plug mouse in to USB port :)
8:38 that looks cool asf tbh I’d like to see more pc builds from other markets around the world see what it’s like for someone else to buy and build a pc maybe find a cool reliable part for cheaper in another market than what you would in your own
As someone who has used a similar chinese cheap keyboard, I can say that the experience was great.. for the 1.5 years it lasted before the low quality switches died completely.
Why is nobody talking about how good that keyboard sounds stock?? wtf
Yeah, Chinese keyboards have long since surpassed western ones honestly, specially in price-to-performance (typed on a Xinmeng keyboard)
你可以去搜索一下wob rainy 75,leobog hi 75,vgn vxe 75,infi100,都是目前比较火的键盘,声音比这个好听很多
Don't be surprised, other models that are better than this keyboard can be purchased in China for around 300 RMB (around 41 USD), and there are countless styles that are more cool, functional, and have a better sound than this one. And high-performance gaming mice only cost 69 RMB (around 9.5 USD)
In fact, the PC market in China is very diversified, and you can find various magical products that do not exist in the West, such as the YTX motherboard displayed by Linus before, various ITX cases, a variety of sea view room cases, and dazzling PC products, from the lowest price practical to the most luxurious and cool.
Looking forward to a full suite of tests. Most interested in the mother board.
and now I want to move to China...
Its shocking Linus didn't plug the LLT screwdriver when talking about the included motherboard driver.
It's been advertised so hard we're all conditioned to think of it when seeing a screwdriver on an LTT video anyway.
oh I got the smaller version of that keyboard, the F75, it’s very nice. High quality key caps, great sound, nice switches. It’s not metal or anything but it’s lovely for the price
still no pinned comment lol 10:28
The 100 acre wood line was goated.
I am pretty sure they will have to cut that out, when this video goes on Bilibili.
Andy got that overtime money after sourcing the parts for this video
Hey Linus! What happened to the pinned comment showing the PSU’s intensive test results?
15:10 what did I do?
Great Wall also make cars, primarily 4x4 pickups. Had a dealership where I used to live down the road from me in the UK
That's a different Great wall, actually.
Two companies obviously
Yeah, why is it Asian companies seem to manufacture everything? Meanwhile, IBM just gave up on the PC industry. Mitsubishi is a great example of a company that tries to make everything and does it poorly. Even the Lancer Evo was a mediocre car with too much power. They lost a direct rivalry with Subaru🤦♂🤦♂
Only broke tradies would buy GWM Ute. The only reason to buy these Chinese industrial waste is because they are cheap. I’d ask to leave if I saw a tradie drives a Chinese Ute. It means he doesn’t care about quality of his job.
@@Lurch-Bot`subaru actually ALSO does everything, same as hitachi and toyota. you dont know too much about asian companies, look at samsung, look at the other famous asian companies. they are nearly ALL hundreds of years old family businesses, they have many family branches that do different shit.
So... where is that pinned comment? 10:27
Does this china motherboard access your home wifi?
XD
you have to be a senator
"What exactly is going on over in the 100-acre wood?"
Actually laughed out loud, genius XD
3:17 Hard disagree. its that bad and so much worse. They maliciously lied and commited literal fruad. come on Linus.
ah lets talk about western products who do literally the same and even worse.
Did anyone put together the total cost of the build??
The cut from beard to no beard threw me off so hard
5:34 Implying Taiwan isn't part of China hmm? Might need to cut that for international audiences
10:15 Thus defeating the point of the build?
7:04 Similar design cabinet avaialble in India zebronics Zeb-Argo, Zeb Hermes, Ant Esports Crystal Dual-Chamber ARGB Gaming Cabinet ,Ant Esports Crystal XL, Ant Esports Crystal X4 ARGB
The motherboard is "white". Google's AIs won't stand for that.
What
Kwaii 不是中文
When you discover your mission, you will feel its demand. It will fill you with enthusiasm and a burning desire to get to work on it.
+999 credit score
fake news,we don’t have that
No benchmarks? Not even the SSD? You mention that the PSU seems very light, but you haven't tested it even though Labs have the equipment to test PSUs? Is it a fire hazard? Well who TF knows! Very low effort video.
And slipping back into clickbaitness.
ssd is old back to 2020. no need to benchmak that. ZhiTai 7000 beats my samsung 990pro or similar. PSU is light because china got 220V, it is 120V in the US. so it is light but good. In addition to China's inability to produce top-notch CPUs and GPUs, I donot understand that people are still biased against Chinese electronic products.
@@XuesongWang-s5xthe best part is, they write this on their chinese made keyboard while looking at their chinese assembled display, if not even chinese made.
This is going to skyrocket on billibilli
This is more of a Western PC with Chinese characteristics 😂😂
Nah it's the other way around since majority of pc parts are manufactured from Mainland China & Taiwan. 😂
@@chaosbringer5248 Never heard of an Nvidia GPU, AMD GPU or Intel GPU or CPU made in China but I guess you know better. Taiwan is where things are manufactured but all the engineering and design is happening in the US.