Excellent. There are a couple of local clubs that have made tree roots a free drop. Like you say ‘nowhere near the fairway’. Leaving aside the basic rule: “play the ball as it lies.”
Well, for me, as long as I’m not in a hazard or dense woods that plays as lateral if you go into it and can’t find it, I always move it if my ball is on it or my Club will hit the root when I hit it. I ain’t breaking my precious 8 iron over a dumb root.
My buddy got stuck behind a tree STUMP. I said it was probably no relief, because there was no GUR, or local rules, even though we couldn’t determine if it was still a growing item or a moveable obstruction. Was I correct in my assumption?
From the Rules of Golf: A fallen tree or tree stump that the Committee intends to remove, but is not in the process of being removed, is not automatically ground under repair. However, if the tree and the tree stump are in the process of being unearthed or cut up for later removal, they are "material piled for later removal" and therefore ground under repair. For example, a tree that has fallen in the general area and is still attached to the stump is not ground under repair. However, a player could request relief from the Committee and the Committee would be justified in declaring the area covered by the fallen tree to be ground under repair.
A founding principle of the game is to play the ball as it lies. There once was a time when the only relief was for a ball in the water hazard or a lost ball. If you couldn't otherwise play the ball, then you simply picked the ball up and moved on to the next hole. Golf was a game that was often won or lost due to an unfavorable bounce, hence the phrase "rub of the green". That phrase is hardly spoken any more. It's obsolete. Today's game with manicured courses and trumped up rules of relief are a far cry from the game that originated on the sheep-grazed Scottish links. Back then, players expected to face adversity when playing the course. Today, players expect perfect lies.
@@hanshuhta8007 Not sure whether you're saying pro golfers play on immaculately manicured golf courses (and are generally treated with perfect lies) ... or whether you're saying pro golfers have no expectations of perfect lies. ⛳ If it's the former, I agree. If it's the latter, I think pro golfers are a lot more picky than amateurs ... but that's understandable given their livelihood.
The PGA doesn’t have to deal with many situations courses are manicured to the max . Many of the places next to cart path have worn down to the roots from people driving on/off . So I’d say it’s either extended cart path or relief from cart tracks
Am I playing in a tournament where real money is offered, no. Am I paying to play, yes. My rules. Played with a lady in her 60s recently and she tee'd up the ball for every hit. "I could never hit it off the ground so I stooped trying! Much happier now."
I was told at the 2 local courses that you get free relief from the tree wells. They don't want you to damage the trees. This must just be a local rule?
@@GolfRulesQuestions there is usually a cut out around the bottom of the tree. They didn’t define it very well. Ha ha. So, I don’t really know. I just try not to hit a tree or tree root near the base of the tree.
Very simple, dim people. If it looks like you may hurt yourself, drop it away for a penalty. No one is making you play it. I swear people are getting more stupid by the day. Trees have roots, trees are a natural part of the course. Bad shot to go by the tree. If you want to cheat just throw the ball on the fairway and be done.
Where a tree root interferes with the lie of the player's ball or the area of the player's intended swing, relief without penalty may be taken under Rule 25-1(i). That is, the ball may be lifted and dropped within one club-length of, and not nearer to the hole than, the nearest point of relief.Jun 21, 2018
Excellent. There are a couple of local clubs that have made tree roots a free drop. Like you say ‘nowhere near the fairway’. Leaving aside the basic rule: “play the ball as it lies.”
When you buy your own clubs sure it as hell does lol
New clubs + Tree roots = free relief =D
Well, for me, as long as I’m not in a hazard or dense woods that plays as lateral if you go into it and can’t find it, I always move it if my ball is on it or my Club will hit the root when I hit it. I ain’t breaking my precious 8 iron over a dumb root.
My buddy got stuck behind a tree STUMP. I said it was probably no relief, because there was no GUR, or local rules, even though we couldn’t determine if it was still a growing item or a moveable obstruction. Was I correct in my assumption?
Correct
I’ve heard a tree stump / dead tree was GUR just not attended by maintenance staff yet
That's incorrect.
Let me clarify, tree hit by lightning dead branches stacked up near base of tree
From the Rules of Golf:
A fallen tree or tree stump that the Committee intends to remove, but is not in the process of being removed, is not automatically ground under repair. However, if the tree and the tree stump are in the process of being unearthed or cut up for later removal, they are "material piled for later removal" and therefore ground under repair.
For example, a tree that has fallen in the general area and is still attached to the stump is not ground under repair. However, a player could request relief from the Committee and the Committee would be justified in declaring the area covered by the fallen tree to be ground under repair.
we group rule free drop for tree root,
we don't want injury or broken club ...
can I get free relief from the sound balance on this video blowing out my right ear?
A founding principle of the game is to play the ball as it lies. There once was a time when the only relief was for a ball in the water hazard or a lost ball. If you couldn't otherwise play the ball, then you simply picked the ball up and moved on to the next hole. Golf was a game that was often won or lost due to an unfavorable bounce, hence the phrase "rub of the green".
That phrase is hardly spoken any more. It's obsolete. Today's game with manicured courses and trumped up rules of relief are a far cry from the game that originated on the sheep-grazed Scottish links. Back then, players expected to face adversity when playing the course. Today, players expect perfect lies.
Unless you are a professional golfer
@@hanshuhta8007 Not sure whether you're saying pro golfers play on immaculately manicured golf courses (and are generally treated with perfect lies)
... or whether you're saying pro golfers have no expectations of perfect lies. ⛳
If it's the former, I agree. If it's the latter, I think pro golfers are a lot more picky than amateurs ... but that's understandable given their livelihood.
What relief have I if my ball lies behind root inside the bunker
There's no free relief if you have interference with a tree root in a bunker. You could take an unplayable in a bunker.
Roots above ground are a groundskeeper situation . Relief should be allowed
Just like trees above the ground?
Not sure how you figure that one hans!
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The PGA doesn’t have to deal with many situations courses are manicured to the max . Many of the places next to cart path have worn down to the roots from people driving on/off . So I’d say it’s either extended cart path or relief from cart tracks
Is this usga or uk or other?
This is the Rules of Golf.
I Had a Had A Bad Root that bent my Shaft,, Crack. &
I Don't Play Golf..
Am I playing in a tournament where real money is offered, no. Am I paying to play, yes. My rules. Played with a lady in her 60s recently and she tee'd up the ball for every hit. "I could never hit it off the ground so I stooped trying! Much happier now."
I was told at the 2 local courses that you get free relief from the tree wells. They don't want you to damage the trees. This must just be a local rule?
Yeah correct. How do they define the tree wells? With concrete or tyres? Or stake the trees?
@@GolfRulesQuestions there is usually a cut out around the bottom of the tree. They didn’t define it very well. Ha ha. So, I don’t really know. I just try not to hit a tree or tree root near the base of the tree.
Very simple, dim people. If it looks like you may hurt yourself, drop it away for a penalty. No one is making you play it. I swear people are getting more stupid by the day. Trees have roots, trees are a natural part of the course. Bad shot to go by the tree. If you want to cheat just throw the ball on the fairway and be done.
Where a tree root interferes with the lie of the player's ball or the area of the player's intended swing, relief without penalty may be taken under Rule 25-1(i). That is, the ball may be lifted and dropped within one club-length of, and not nearer to the hole than, the nearest point of relief.Jun 21, 2018
A. Rule 25-1 is an old Rule, no longer used. B. What you referenced is a Local Rule that a Committee can adopt, not a Rule of Golf.
Play it like Trump.give it a Pele.
It sounds like something you’ve done before.
@@seanm3226 Sean sounds like a Trump fan lol!