Rory McIlroy Takes a Smart Penalty Drop- Golf Rules Explained
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If your ball rolls into a penalty area from the general area after taking a penalty drop, are you permitted to play it if it is within two club-lengths of where it landed when you dropped it?
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No, the player must re-drop the ball. The ball must come to rest in the same area of the course within the relief area that it first touched on the drop.
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Harry Diamond deserves full credit here, calmed McIlroy down and took full advantage of the rules
That was said in video.
@@CharlieAUS Thank you, i didnt noticed it was said in the video. Good thing you was there with your dick attitude. Thank you my man !
Here is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE Read This
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@vranthis Dick attitude? I feel bad for anyone that texts you on a regular basis. They probably wince every time they hit the send button.
@@shadoninja well with a name like HumblePie I am sure anyone would lol
Rory in this situation: "I'll take a drop."
Phil in this situation (to his caddy): "Let's go with the driver.".
Here is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE Read This
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@Danell Moore
Really, man?
@@justyourlocalbernana1823
Really man. YaH is The Heavenly Father, The Creator of Genesis 1, Who Created Adam and Eve and now you know YaH’s Name. Isn’t that awesome?
@Danell Moore
Are you talking about Yhwh/Yahweh? xD
Hehe so true
Like the new format with commentary helps us understand a lot easier! Thank you!
Just let the announcers do the talking.
Could run a comb through that hair a couple of times first, but otherwise I like it.
Let this be a reminder to all of us. When setting up, always think of where you want the ball to go. Never think of where you don't want the ball to go. Good luck with that, by the way.
Some say don't think of either, know your shot pattern, aim accordingly, let it rip, and accept the outcome.
@@AjaxNixon i think you missed the joke
@@scan-the-world the joke is that they are playing golf
@@WaddickLawnCare tell us you’re poor without telling us you’re poor
@@prepaidtrash5552 I have to be able to afford to play golf to know it’s a joke but good try dude!
Thank goodness for the Caddy! He managed to grip Rory and stop him making a daft decision!
Cringe
Harry the caddy told him what shot to take, Rory has admitted this himself.
That's what caddys are there for.
@@Peter-ff1tp stop being so pedantic. If I have to explain my comment to you that's your problem for being stupid.
@@Peter-ff1tp So by assuming you know what Robert meant and commenting on it makes you not only stupid but also for lack of a better word a fucktard...
If you simply took his words for what they said you wouldn't read into it and imagine what it "sounds like", and thus wouldn't misconstrue what he meant which you clearly have. # team Michael
@@Peter-ff1tp Yep. You.
To be confident enough to take a penalty and drop it in the rough is just remarkable. If he can't get it up and down after that shot he's going to a playoff. Brilliant play and brilliant decision.
He doesn't need to get up and down as he still has three shots to win after the drop
Confidence is the x factor in golf
Wasn't rocket science
“That is a golf shot.” -the John Madden of golf
She’s also a style legend
I hate that term. Of course it's a golf shot, they're playing golf.
I mean its just like when people say “now thats a throw!” “Now thats a pitch!”
@@neckcheese1356 if thats what gets you mad, you get some serious problems my guy. Someone just saying that term boils up this hate in you (you said you hate when people use that term) , you are going to have a very crappy, unhappy, awful life. Good luck with that. You either get mad over absolutely everything even the littlest things in the world, or you have such a pampered life where people saying words are the worst of you problems and you’ve never have any challenges or actually achieved anything because everything is handed to you. Either way, good luck with that my guy👍
@@neckcheese1356 Now that definitely was a golf shot! You mad? You getting angry? Are you grumpy right now because I said that? Awww poor little thing...
The best option would have been to distract your opponents then use a foot wedge back out to short stuff.
The Trumpy drop.
To be fare,it was his caddy who made the call,great call to take the penalty
@David Powell well his caddy made him change his mind,so he takes partial credit
@David Powell let me remind you,Rory post win,told the world it was his caddys call that won him the title,those exact words,he said it to sky sports
Is the caddie really allowed to ground the bag in the hazard?
fair
I think it’s good His caddy stepped up here and helped Rory come to that decision to take the drop. I was kind of feeling like Rory may be at the point of trying to find a new Caddy sometime in the near future..(as he has not been doing very well lately, and often caddy’s take some of the blame) but I think Harry may have saved His job for a little while longer with helping Rory make the right call here.
Rory gave a demonstration (RUclips video) hitting seven iron 195 - normal club/distance for him - with slight breeze behind, of course with a preferred lie. Amazing that he chose an eight iron for this shot - and pulled it off! Kudos to caddie for calming Rory who certainly looked out-of-sorts.
higher lofted iron is easier to dig a ball out of that rough with. He was ok being short (which he was), but you don't want the rough grabbing your stronger clubs and causing more problems.
I bet he also felt the adrenaline and knew he was gonna carry everything a bit farther
Fluffed up lies tend to have low spin so he probably playing for that
Everything everyone else said is true plus the ball was below his feet so he was probably trying to close the face a little more to hit the ball straight with no fade
exactly, these are so-called 'flyer lies' that can make a ball fly 10-20m further super easily.@@laronda10
Played with a mate who was in a similar situation. A shocking lie in a penalty area where his only option was to hit out sideways. To exactly where his penalty drop would be. He elected to hit and of course did not get out. Later when talking about it, taking the drop was a no brainer...
I've been waiting for the spoken commentary! This is awesome!
Here is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE Read This
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH stop spamming
I did similar last week as the ball was settled right down at the bottom of a large clump of grass. I found a spot about a club length away which I knew would make the ball bounce and roll out of the drop area. I took two drops and then got to place it on a nice soft tuft, better than you can tee it up on a par 3! Wind was swirling, but I knew higher up it was strong, but steady right to left, I decided on a hard 7 rather than a gentle 6, to try and get it up through the swirling air. There was a strip of flat grass off the front left of the green, which would feed an approach shot between the front two bunkers and allow it to run down the gentle sloped green towards the hole. Ball slightly below my feet and with that wind, I aimed about 15 feet left of the green stip with a gentle fade so the ball would stop at the hole and not run past, weight slightly on my back foot for the extra ball height, concentrated on my shot shape and swing thought, one last deep breath, a slow smooth back swing and I shanked it 60 yards dead right. There is a difference between me and Rory...
Nick faldo sobbing "all he needed was one more fade" was hilarious. 😂😂
Yeah Rory made that shot look simple, however that had so many possibilities of going wrong! Beautiful swing alignment and follow through!
Tough shot for the average golfer (rough and sloped) but not too bad for these guys. The original shot though that was BURIED in high grass (not just rough DEEP/wet rough) - hitting out of that could've been a disaster. Even for pros that's a VERY unpredictable/tough shot. One of the few golfers that was able to pull off shots like that was Tiger because he was so strong and his swing was so hard.... which of course led to all his body breakdown/back issues...
That was 100% pro execution and he got to use his gym strength.
golf needs to institute "the Michelson option" where you are allowed to kick the ball one time and play it where it lies...
Here is the Original Semitic Text, PLEASE Read This
YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic Scroll:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moses wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@@Praise___YaH Jesus is God, God in the flesh
@@Praise___YaH what is yah?
@@josephjackson1956 Yah mom! (doing her)
Then let's get a lead boot and punt that thing 135 yds
Still an amazing shot from 195 fade lie thick rough gesh. 🔥
With a 8 Iron. Great shot!
In this case, hindsight is always 20/20. If he pitched out to the fairway, that 3rd shot into the green would have been a heck of a lot easier. Yes, he can flub the pitch out, but he can also fail to hit a worldburner from a ball placed in the rough on a severe sidehill lie. So, since he hit an amazing recovery shot, the decision looks good. But, it could have gone the other way, too, and he could have hit a poor shot that came up short in the hazard, or flared it out way right. But, he hit a great shot out of a much trickier spot than the flat fairway. Either choice had a similar amount of high risk attached to it. The risk was just moved from shot 2 to shot 3. It was a gutsy decision, that's for sure.
The closer you get to those creeks the more rocks are just underneath the surface of the grass.
Without seeing exactly what his lie was like I would hazard a guess saying there's waaaaaay more variables that can go wrong trying to pitch that over.
That would have been a very difficult pitch. I think Rory has practiced enough out of the rough to know he could make the shot.
What you're missing from your analysis is the individual PLAYER.
Two options, (lay up, take drop and rip it) both high risk but different requirements. A simple analysis is "go with the one with the lowest risk". Good players consider both and go with the one that they feel they can EXECUTE with the lowest risk.
I have no doubt every player can answer with confidence "do you feel better pitching out of creek cabbage, or hitting an approach shot from rough below your feet?" - they may answer differently but that doesn't make their answers wrong.
If you flub it, you're stuck in the same situation, plus one stroke. And now what? Maybe you talk yourself into trying it again. If you flub it, you're stuck in the...
No the drop was a much better shot. His first shot the ball was way down in a hole and almost impossible to get any loft on. Did you not hear the commentators? When he took the drop he at least got some air under the ball.
That's a golf shot. No kidding. What should we think it was, a soccer kick?
I read that at the same time I was thinking it.
I do this practically every round I play. I'd rather have a clean(er) penalty shot than an impossible play it where it lies shot.
the channel editors need to add 60 seconds at the end so the stupid youtube promos of other vidoes do not pop on screen and block the view.
You know that there are chrome plugins that will stop all that crap altogether, yes?
@@CinemaDemocratica i use youtube ad blockers, they do not stop the video promos, only the real ads. i do not use chrome.....yuck.... firefox has plenty of plugins
THAT is what is called a great golf shot. Kudos.
I do this all the time with no stroke penalty with out all the fanfair and messing around. Big deal
If you were as good as Rory, maybe people would care...
@the iceman damn got his ass
😂 Grande ragazzi!! Effettivamente di domande “ semplici “ che a volte non si fanno mai ce ne sono tantissime. Spiegare una volta per tutte le varie formule di gara, le categorie di gioco variano o no? Potrei continua all’infinito ma vorrei tenere impegnato GiGi sul Punto😉🤣
Superb channel greetings from Germany.
Jean van de Velde needed some advice like this from his Caddy in the '99 British Open............
Ya but that was good tv
@@mattneil1449 I remember watching it live with my head in my hands thinking why? I think it was Peter Alliss commentating and he couldn't believe it when he started taking his shoes and socks off and rolling up his trousers.........
@@nickmaclachlan5178 I remember that too. He took his shoes off and looked like he wanted to hit it out of that water. He's already famous for that hole but imagine if he actually did.
Did you see him go back and play that hole using only his putter? He made a 6
@@mattneil1449 The fact that he even considered it showed that he just wasn't thinking straight. You could see it in his face, just total denial. I don't remember what his caddy was doing, but I don't think he was being much help. What I do remember was his wife, she didn't know whether to laugh or cry.
⭐️That’s was a really tight swing from mcillroy , who just needs more rounds of golf
Here's a question: when chipping can you place a marker on the green to aim at?
No. Rule 10 (ruclips.net/video/fD5dX0v1td4/видео.html)
(1) Pointing Out Line of Play for Ball Anywhere Except on Putting Green. A player may have his or her line of play pointed out by:
Having his or her caddie or any other person stand on or close to the player’s line of play to show where it is, but that person must move away before the stroke is made.
Having an object (such as a bag or towel) set down on the course to show the line of play, but the object must be removed before the stroke is made.
@@GolfRulesQuestions I just recently saw a clip of Phil Micklesons caddie tending the flag while he was trying to hole out from the fairway and he didn't move until well after the ball was in the air. Was that illegal?
@@notdoingthis000 ruclips.net/video/Cf8ewXYehmA/видео.html this is permitted, but if the flagstick has been attended, it is not permitted to be left in the hole to influence where the ball ends up.
Been out of competitive golf for the last 11yrs due to 3 neck surgeries. The new rule that requires a local rule to drop on either side of a lateral hazard sucks. If it were in place for this tournament, Rory could have had a much better spot to play his 3rd shot from!! Glad I watched the video, as I didn't know it required a local rule!!
That sucks about your neck. Hopefully you eventually recover and get back into it soon
Golf has way too many rules that relieve golfers from their bad shots.
Not really because he still had to incur a 1 stroke penalty for getting that relief.
@@robydean7 yeah but if you would have had to shoot from there there's odds that he might not even have hit it out of the spot he had it in. Sorry golf just rewards bad shots all the time. If you play like s***, you should have to deal with it.
@@TheCpadron19 I get what you're saying. But what are you going to do when ball is deep in the water hazard and no way to recover? I will admit there are so many rules it is hard for even the pros to get it right many times. Like Nascaar, if you ain't cheating your ain't tryin'.
The rules are there, sometimes they go for you sometimes they go against you.
As soon as you go into a red staked area you have options . . . Just the rules everyone knows this. Out of bounds and your in trouble. My home course 2nd hole miss left your out of bounds miss right your in a hazard . . . The miss is right as you have options for one penalty shot. Hazards are part of golf as are the rules.
Why would you not include him finishing the hole in this video
Because it's irrelevant to the point of the video, that's why.
I like all the second guessers (that are not on tour by the way) for Rory not taking the shot as it lay.
*as it lied.
“That is a golf shot” Ah thank you for that I had no idea till you said something.
You must not play or watch then? Really common thing to say about a shot like this.
@@almaclellan Yeesh. No I don’t I think it’s boring. When I’m watching a good sport like hockey they aren’t saying “Wow, what a hockey shot!” Lmfao
@@almaclellan Common comment, yet stupid.
Dottie suggests he pitches out and that’s the best play, not even 2 minutes later says that pitching out wasn’t viable and the more difficult option. Just lol
100% when you get employed based on your gender lol
you clearly don’t know who Dottie Pepper is. A 17-time LPGA winner.
@@krystlemurphy8514 your right I don't know and don't care . She's commentating on the men's game she wouldn't even make the cut in any of the PGA tour games.
@@jasonfogartyflp Totally agree what do women know about men’s golf? Not a misogynist but don’t think women should advise on men’s sport particularly golf with different rules.
@@jasonfogartyflp You think Jim Nance can make the cut on the Tour? Commentating and playing are two very different things, but in this case, Dottie Pepper has a heck of a lot more experience playing professional golf than Jim Nance. Your argument is a specious one.
22 was my number in sports :)
That last shot was a real gem.
Nothing worse than a downhill lie. I really hate hitting a ball well below my feet. Nice work Rory!
I’m the opposite. Rather hit below my feet and really try to dig it out than playing one above my feet and hitting it thin, fat, or straight left.
@@the1mexicant All about making the necessary adjustments...
@@the1mexicant so you suck?
Smart man but hats off to that Cameraman who jumped over the stream! @3:13
6:16- "That is a golf shot."
I thought that was a bowling shot or a baseball shot? Could have fooled me 😂
Yes, even though it very closely resembled a 3-point shot, it actually was a golf shot.
Thats a bugger of a hole too - I've hit the creek on the left side more times than i can count - plus its the last hole too so, the opposite of a strong finish.
Really Smart play from a Really Smart Player. Go Rory.
Look at the dimples. They are callaway's HEX dimples.
Sure looks like it. So wtf, Rory secretly plays a callaway ball and taylormade paints their logo on it ?
3:51 After he placed it, why was he allowed to pick it up and place it again? That second placement sure was a lot better than the first one. I guess the ball moved after the first placement?
Correct, the ball hadn't come to rest after being replaced.
@@pete1208 that's incorrect. Once the ball has been replaced, it is in play and you would only be permitted to lift it for certain reasons, not just because your tee is still in the ground. This is different to being on the green, for which your statement would be correct.
@@pete1208 You are only allowed to lift and place the ball if it moves after you place it. You can't just keep lifting and placing until you find a spot you like just because your tee is still in the ground.
@@GolfRulesQuestions Pete's right. And at the tee box, if my tee stays in the ground, I can keep hitting free shots.
@@Randsurfer You need to put an emoji in to show others that you are being sarcastic...
Pardon my French, but that was balls!!!
I've reached the end of the internet. This was the last video. Thanks!
overly dramatic
@@GolfRulesQuestions lol no offense! RUclips figured out I looked at some clubs online even though I've played golf once in my life. I am clearly not the target audience for this recommendation!
by the sounds of it, you are the perfect golfer 😏
@@GolfRulesQuestions I hit a drive without slicing once so I'd say I have mastered the game
@@stiffdrinkmime366 🤣 surely you're hooked
If I’d have dropped it the ball probably wouldn’t have bounced back into the hazard
That's what he did on purpose, 2 drops that roll into the hazard and he can place it giving him a better lie
@@lewisclothier5496 I know the rules, I was just saying with my luck it wouldn’t have rolled over the line and back into the hazard 😁
@@spikeybaby1735 oh I misread it, yeah mine too 😂
@@spikeybaby1735 That's why he didn't drop it straight down. You can see he gives a small motion that secures a correct angle for the ball to bounce down.
@@ParleLeVu what the hell are you talking about?? His whole arm and hand are motion less and lets go of the balls which drops completely straight down not to mention with an OFFICIAL STANDING 1 FOOT AWAY LOOKING STRAIGHT AT HIM! Stop trying to sound smart or overthinking something or accusing him of cheating when he’s not. You have no idea what you’re talking about and I can tell you’re also one of those “golfers” (if you golf) that cheat their way through every round...🤦♂️ Do you really feel happy and that accomplished something or actually beat the other person/group when you do stuff like that? You have to cheat at things just to “win” and try and make you feel better about yourself when you actually know deep down inside your just a POS cheater...?
THANK YOU for explaining!!!!
There's a clip online of Rory deciding to take his shot even though it was right up against a rock in some sandy stuff. He takes it, smashes a cameraman and has an even worse next shot. Maybe that was in his mind.
That WAS a golf shot!
me watching this video: How does this have 1.9M views?
me at the end of the video: ah, yeah. there it is.
Very smart play!
No way the Jean van de Velde's meltdown didn't cross his mind when he was processing this decision.
Marvelous decision from the young Lepricorn.
CRUSHED IT!
Most people would pull that 8 iron 3rd into the creek, with that hanging lie, or shank it into the trees, that's why the decision, for most, was wrong. But its Rory!
@Fred Wills The amount of golfers I see pull hanging lies always shocks me, probably because they assume they will shank/push it right and they come way over the top and close the clubface in fear of the push. Surely Rory knew he could smack it into the fairway 50yds etc... and have wedge in. He really relied on assuming it was a par 3 from where he placed and that no matter what, he would make 3
Woulda been a nice shot to see, but for the ads for other videos mapped atop the footage, which coulda lasted five more seconds, to show those, then...
Anyone peep the cameraman jump the stream at 3:15? xD
I hear about club length. Is there a set length a club can be?
c. Length
The overall length of the club must be at least 18 inches (0.457m) and,
except for putters, must not exceed 48 inches (1.219m).
But they are planning on changing it to 46 inches.
That was great thinking
Lol every tour player drops it like that to be able to place it. It's not rocket science, it's common sense.
No wonder golf is ‘dying’ - I’ve played at low h’cap for x40yrs - and always in weekly Comps, but the rules are ridiculously complicated and most players break them without even realising and with no intention to do so. The game is supposed to be FUN and relaxing for us amateurs, but there are far more rules in this PASTIME than at bloody work!
Most of us only follow the rules very loosely. I’ve never played in a foursome where guys aren’t fluffing the ball, lifting and cleaning etc...
It has been said that some golfers give up the game to become Roman Catholics because the rules are much easier to understand.
Golf is definitely not dying. It’s more popular than ever.
Golf should be play the lie, no matter where. Just like Shooter McGavin had to do. Play it off of Frankenstein's foot. Water landing? You get an 8. Also 2X par should be the maximum score per hole.
Awesome video!!
You gotta play bad golf to play good golf
Obviously it worked out fine, but I thought he could easily hit it onto the fairway - with no loss of shot.
Go back and take a look at the stance and the lie. It was anything but easy.
No loss if shot? From the tee, of course. But from where he ended up, he's hitting 3 regardless. And he didn't like the stance or the lie.
The ball cannot be the same length of a cigar smoke circle while drinking a corona with or without a lime on a friday night before and tuesday first week after the month last sunday winning goal tomorrow can be done without a glue trap or a sand dollar short of a dime. Makes sence if you think about it.
If there is a penalty stroke I think it is perfectly fine.
Why he wouldn't just hit it as it lies and get the ball further up in exchange for putting it 2 feet to the right is his choice.
Why? Because the lie (deep grass) and the stance (below his feet) made for a very difficult shot that had a low probability of putting him in a good position.
He was not trying to save a stroke. He was trying to win the tournament. Different mindset.
Hey Rory! Light the candle!
i am a member there!
I was behind the green cheering him on here
I understand that what he did was entirely within the rules but I'm not in favour of the rules themselves. I think the rules should be, in these kinds of situations, that a golfer either plays the ball as it lies or they reload from the tee (stroke and distance). This seems more like, in gaming terms, that he's taking advantage of an exploit.
Stroke and distance for a water hazard? Isn't the game far too slow already?
The players would take a provisional if there was any doubt and far less time would have been wasted.
@@SciMajor1 Firstly, the rules specifically prohibit hitting a provisional ball if it is known or virtually certain (KVC) that the ball is in a penalty area.
Secondly, your suggestion would almost require a provisional ball be struck any time that a ball is in danger of entering a water hazard, and that would be ridiculous.
@@kyle381000 As I said in my original post. I understand the rules. I just don't agree with them.
I can't believe he couldn't chip his ball 10 yards onto the fairway for an even better 3rd.
It wasn't worth the risk
Your comment sounds like you don't play golf.
Fyi, he two-putted to win the tournament (2021 Wells Fargo Championship).
Am I stupid? Wouldn’t it have been a better idea and play it, like at the least you should be able to chip it to the fairway for a better shot
The problem with playing that I see is how deep in the rough it is. The chance is high that he isn't able to get it out and the ball would roll into the creek. By moving it he is able to get it out from under that deep rough. Even a left-hander like Bubba (because we know Phil would 100% go for that shot as it lied) I don't think would go for that shot despite it being significantly easier for him since it wouldn't be on a downslope.
Interesting, Even as good as he ended up hitting it, look how the hanging lie still pushed his ball to the right side of the green.
Love the commentary but we gotta rev up that energy a wee bit lad!
I have to ask, are you Scottish? I do agree that the commentary is not that exciting
I blade an attempted flop shot into the club house and knock out the waitress trying to serve cocktails.
The announcer: "and that was a golf shot"
I still don’t get why the rules official allows or instructs him to replace the ball (in a better lie) AFTER he has already placed it in a position that is behind the tee peg and where the official was pointing. This to me, made his next shot much easier as the second time he placed it, it was in a spot with less rough around the ball than the first placement. Surely once it had been placed the first time the ball was in play and he has to hit it from there. Almost seems like the rules official gave him an unfair advantage and you could say that was the difference between him winning versus being in a play off.
Did Rory just hit an 8-iron roughly 200 yards???
Why didn't Rory take the penalty option of bringing the ball back on the line and hitting it from the fairway?
You could tell by his feet placement when he teed off that it was going left, weird for a player of that caliber.
Dotty I love your xomentating6
Don't ever leave us
Pls and thank you
Playing Devil’s advocate, if you are dropping a shot anyway would it not be a smarter play to chip it back onto the fairway (anywhere) and then have your next shot from there? Kudos to Rory for hitting an amazing shot with what was still a difficult lie but I reckon 80%+ of golfers could not have landed it on the green from where Rory ended up hitting it…
Completely agree. But they are not 80% of golfers. They know what they are doing....we all would mess it up. Lol
The assumption is that the ball would end up in a playable position. Given the lie and the stance, that is a significant assumption. If it doesn't work out, you're in a worse position and still need to incur a penalty stroke to get out.
Let's remember that Rory was trying to win the tournament as opposed to simply saving a stroke. He needed a five to win, and that's what he did.
Perhaps, if he had a good lie and stance. But he had neither.
I don't understand, why he did not drop the ball on the other side near the fairway. As the creeek is on the left side of the fairway and the ball crossed the penalty area from the right side, dropping on the right side of the penalty area should have been right thing to do, or do I miss something?
pretty sure it’s nearest point of relief
@@lambohd8160 Did they change the rules for lateral hazard?
They changed the rule 2019. However if it's still part of the local rule, then the committee would let him do it, but in this case; it was removed or it was never there as part of the local rule.
It landed to the left of the red line and bounced back into the penalty area from that side.
Because the local rule to allow relief on either side was not in effect his only option for lateral relief was on the left side.
@@Malincanada Thanks for the explaination. I did not know, that it landed on the left side of the red line. I thought it came from the right side and went directly into the hazard. In this case it would be not logically to drop on the left side. Now it makes toal sense. Thank you.
Ask Phil!!
He’d know the best way to make it!! LOLLLL
If it’s plus 2 if you tee up in front on the markers couldn’t you tee up on the green
You also need to fix your mistake.
I thought caddy is not allowed to be in hazard with bag or is that not a hazard?
A caddie is permitted to go into a penalty area, and can lay the bag down.
That rule was changed in 2019.
@@kyle381000 I retired from caddying few yrs ago because of bad back but I remember some of those changes like leaving pin in cup and drop from near knees
Was this rule now changed?
No. Did you think it should be changed?
can you decide to play it as it lies, walk over the ball and decide no i want to play it from previously played and walk back to the tee box? is this allowed?
Yes, that is permitted.
but then he'd be shooting 4 from wherever the next ball lands instead of 3 from a tolerable lie in the rough.
Yes, but three off the Tee isn't a great place to be........ as it turned out he was on the green for three.
@@nickmaclachlan5178 He was shooting 3 from beside the ditch, not on the green for 3. Drop = 1 stroke penalty.
@@skateboardingover3047 pretty sure Nick meant that he was on the green in three strokes: drive, drop, 8-iron.
He used the rules as written. I agree, but I don't think the rules should allow that much of an improvement from the original lie. That ball was buried in grass and the rules allowed for such an improvement to allow for a great shot. Yes I play golf but a one stroke penalty only and an improved lie seems overly generous..
His ball was in a penalty area, therefore he is allowed to play his next shot outside of that area under a penalty of one stroke. The 'quality' of his lie within the penalty area is irrelevant to the area of his drop.
Why did he get a chance to replace the ball once he had already placed it?
The ball didn't stay at rest.
@@GolfRulesQuestions Could you tell me what is the Local Rule reference number you mentioned in your commentary. I’d like to tell my clubs committee so hopefully they will adopt it on a red penalty area at my course.
@@1HappyGolfer Refer to Committee Procedures 8B-2 - "Relief on Opposite Side of Red Penalty Area". A Committee can introduce a Local Rule to allow lateral relief on the opposite side of the red penalty area as an extra relief option under Rule 17.1d. The reference point for the relief area is the estimated point on the opposite edge of the penalty area that is the same distance from the hole as the estimated point where the original ball last crossed the edge of the red penalty area.
@@stuartmcphee6009 Also known as "the old way".
That's why you never go cheap picking a caddy.
But it looked to me like he placed the ball once, it settled down too much for his liking, he and the official on the scene exchanged a few words, then Rory picked it up, and RE-placed the ball with a fluffier lie the result... He placed it twice, in other words, looked like to me. How is that legal? (Just asking. Love Rory.)
He placed it, but it wasn't at rest. So he needed to replace it so that when he let go of it it was at rest.
Why did Rory drop so close to the red line? I thought he had 2 club lengths from the red line?
To be certain that it crossed the line twice more. Then you have the option to place the ball. This gives you better options and a better lie.
Insane how long it takes!
1:37 I'm new to golf. What is the red pony area?
PENALTY area lol. Jesus, his accent isn't that bad
To be such a whistle blower this was definitely worth a head scratch