NYCT Bus | 2017-19 New Flyer Xcelsior XD40 Review
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Finally, I have made a review of my favorite XD40s. These XD40s were brought here rapidly, as NY's first cuomofied XD40s in 3rd batches. They were brought here to most retire the 1999 Novabus RTS' and to ex out the Orion VII OG HEVs in some depots for a displacement or retirement.
Since 2018, Jamaica Depot was the first to have these starting with #7484 as a pilot unit. They got more sets when July comes for them. Before then, I had fanned them back when they were pulling into Flatbush Depot and East New York Depot between May and July that year. I really miss myself having to see #7623 and riding since early June 2018. Those +SBS XD40s these 2 depot have exceeds my value prediction of a new bus. After these 2 first Brooklyn Depot had these; Fresh Pond Depot, Grand Ave, Ulmer Park Depot, Micheal J.Quill, and oddly West Farms Depot got these sticky for their deals to excuse the Orion VII OG CNGs for their retirement by mid-2019. In mid-2019, transferring into and working out of ENY Depot gives more chances to touch more of these XD40s comapared to how much I touched out of MJQ. And Micheal J.Quill I see, is the most special depot as my first former workplace to have these uncommon newbies. It's due being retrofitted with Aesys LED signages(signs with thinner fonts) that we have never seen since 2004, when older buses like the Orion VII OG HEV as Gen 2s were being delivered 16 years ago. Now in this new decade and because of the COVID-19 impact I had to ride some of these which feels more rare ride I took compared to 2019 and earlier. And #7634(ex. B46 +SBS unit) was my first of FB's local XD40 I rode to WB Bridge Plaza for the time. Then after I reached there, #7829 was my last XD40 I see and rode out of GAD on the B39 coming back to Brooklyn across the Williamsburg Bridge.
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7572-7591 were transferred to MHV Depot due to the transfer of the M66 to MHV and the M60-SBS to MCH. 2017 LFSAs 5444-5467 were transferred from MJQ to MCH as well. These moves happened due to Quill receiving roof repairs. 5457 was the last Quill bus to run on the M60, While 7594 was the last Quill XD40 to run on the M66. 9700 was the last Quill LFS HEV to run on the M66 in general. 5451 became the first Hale LFSA to run on the M60. And 7574, 7581 and 9458 became the first MHV XD40 and XDE40s to run on the M66. This was the first time that MHV used diesels since the 1999 RTSs. Around 2017-2018 I believe. Later on 5/3, The depot received 7550-7551, 7568 from JA. This also made 2016-17 LFSAs an official part of Hale again, for the first time since 2020. Between September 2-6, Grand Avenue Depot became Grand Theft Depot as many have putted, When they took 7490 from Gun Hill, 7550-7551, 7572 from Manhattanville, 7571 from Jamaica and 7592 from Quill, And 2015 XD40s 7182 from Ulmer and 7304 from Flatbush. Some as loans and some as potential transfers. Some which are still there to this day.
7484-7506, 7546-7547, 7549 were also transferred from JA Depot to GH Depot due to JA taking some of GH LFSs back in February 2023.
I was glad to have these before 2021, to at least have some newer buses. I still miss the RTSs. However, they didn’t have all the new features, like these.
B1, B38 and Q12 have old XD60s now.
I feel Manhattan is running out of these, due to the LFS HEVs and XDE40s. I know those replaced both the Orion VII OG and NG HEVS, keeping 2010 NG HEVS at Manhattanville, which I’ve caught #4681 on the M5 and M11 both in December, 2023, in two different locations, however, nearby.
I was confused, when I first realized the B82 and B82-SBS were based out of East New York, instead of Ulmer Park or Flatbush. It makes sense, because the B83 and B84 are based out of East New York, and run a little closer to the depot, with the B6 being at Ulmer Park. This reminds me of the fact the Q17 runs from Jamaica to Flushing, and is based out of Jamaica, and the Q31 runs from Bayside to Jamaica, and is based out of Casey Stengel. Speaking of Casey Stengel, I’ve seen pictures of these on the Q12, before being converted into an Articulated Route. I assumed it was a loan from Jamaica Depot.
The next day, I was walking with my grandparents at Broadway & W 64th St, which was December 19, 2023, and caught 7581 on the M66, in the wrong place. Before that, I caught 7604 on the M72 saying it was on its way to the Upper East Side, running on Central Park South, which was silly. I know the M72 doesn’t run on Central Park South. It was probably an error or going back to MJQ.
They also feature Hanover destination sign
I will be making my own review on these buses as well. I will also include two important exclusives.
I give these a 10.6/10, with the only missing feature, being the rear doors, not being wide enough.
If I’m not wrong, these buses are based out of Jamaica, Flatbush, Ulmer Park, East New York, Fresh Pond, Grand Avenue, Michael J. Quill, Manhattanville and Gun Hill Depots.
Correct !
I rode #7614 on the M42 today from 1 Av to Av of the Americas. When I got off the bus, I noticed there were unusual destination signs.
These destination sign is called the Aesys signage.
I noticed Gun Hill having these and Jamaica is loosing these, and Gun Hill is loosing their 2015-16 Novabus LFSs.
I have rode Michael J. Quill units on the M42 and M50, and I was unhappy with the signages.
I call the B39 “the Williamsburg Bridge Shuttle”.
Good Name !
The Last RTS I rode was on the M72.
Therefore, Yukon would give 8 of their 2019 LFSs to Gun Hill for Gun Hill’s 2015-16 LFS transfer to Jamaica.
Can they please unwrap Flatbush Depot’s 48 new XD40s?
They have wrapped them into the local scheme since the B46-SBS became an articulated route. Currently, three 2018 XD40s in Flatbush have the SBS Scheme. Those units are 7623, 7645, and 7651.
Nice review Cedric think I Ride 2017 New Flyer XD40 7484 me and my grandma toke that bus back home to my Mom & my lil brother we was coming from Jamaica Ave from Shopping the route is was the Q4 local but I normally ride 7484 on the 85 to green acres but I didn't even know dat JA Depot is sharing buses with Queens village they toke out most of them.
and mostly I even see those XD40s on the Q58 as well I really wanna ride the 58
These are my favorite Busses.
New Flyer/MCI #1
I mean XD60s for B15, B82-SBS and Q56 during J subway construction.
The M42 uses XE40s.
The B74 doesn’t run on these.
I’ve thought about there is a shortage of “Cuomolivery” articulated buses to run on the B82-SBS. If the 2009-10 LFSAs retire, the 2024-25 XE60s should also be delivered into East New York, for the ✈️ B15, B82-LCL, and B82-SBS conversions. I feel like there weren’t any articulated routes across the East River before 2011.
B82 SBS isn't going to be getting 60fts until the ridership increase
@@AutomotiveTaurus The B15 doesn’t need it either, because of the A Train service to JFK Airport.
Some don't live by the A. So, this is why the B15 will be cut away from JFK Airport and replaced by B55 +SBS within the next 2 years
I came up with a new dream plan. My dream plan is for Flatbush Depot to give their LFSAs to Yukon Depot for the S79-SBS, transfer all their Tuskegee Airmen’s XD60s out, and transfer them to East New York Depot for the ✈️ B15 and B82-SBS, and bring Mother Clara Hale’s LFSAs to Tuskegee Airmen. Therefore, Tuskegee Airmen would be an “all LFS depot”, and Mother Clara Hale would be an “all New Flyer depot”.
Articulated buses fail for Staten Island. In 2020, XD60s from CS went to be tested in Staten Island. Their angles can match the curves and hills for the Island
After getting of an M7A Car Metro-North Railroad on the Harlem Line at Botanical Garden with my grandmother, I caught 7501 on the Bx25 making its way towards Bay Plaza. I know about the order where Jamaica Depot gave 25 units to Gun Hill as a swap for the 2015-16 LFSs. It feels interesting with this as the same generation, also having the 2019 LFSs. It’s like Manhattanville with the 2021 LFS HEVs and the 2021-22 XDE40s.
Only Flatbush has these as the primary units of the system.
The LFSAs should be shared with the LFS, the LFSAs should be for the busier times of the day.
5-7 years later XD40s are now at Busco but 2023-24 XD40s
Busco ?
@@AutomotiveTaurus mta bus company
Why were these running out of Casey Stengel before the Q12 was projected to an articulated route?
None did.
Amazing video!! The first 2017-19 XD40 I've ever ridden was 7501 on the #6 Shuttle. I also remember riding 7668 on the J train shuttle as the first SBS Schemed XD40 I've ever ridden.
Novabus/Prevost-#2
Good Review Cedric & Happy Birthday Matthew
On 5/3/2019, I watched the RTS retirement video, and rode an MJQ Orion VII NG Hybrid on the M21 on 6/22/2019.
Weren’t these the last buses to have outward doors that don’t slide opened?
Yes, they there
Why were these buses delivered into Manhattanville and Gun Hill?
Manhattanville received them due to Micheal J.Quill's roooftop reconstruction. Gun Hill Depot reveives these to make operators be trained for future 40ft Xcelsiors to come to their depot.
B39 and B62 use XDE40s.
RTSs are like Subarus.
I first saw an XD40 out of MJQ on the M9 in Chinatown.
I think that we need to not complain about the dirtiness of Manhattan, and get Manhattanville Depot these busses of LFSs in order to supplement the retired RTSs.
Nice Review , how #6131 on B46 and it from Casey Stangel Depot.
Great review man, I Remember The 1st Time Seeing These XD40s out of fresh pond on the Q58, 7517 was the 1st unit i encountered during my 1st month of my freshman year, i took 2 quick pics and was impressed that the Newer XD40s were delivered with the Cuomo Livery, After The Q58 was taken over by Grand Avenue Depot On January Of 2019, i didn't have a chance to ride the Fresh Pond Xcelsior Units, Even Tho I was lucky to ride the first batch of XDE40s on the Q58, by mid january or February of 2019 i encountered and rode on 7521 on the Q58 from grand avenue depot on my way home from school, it looked fresh and the ride was somewhat amazing than the 2015 XD40s, i mainly rode on the XDE40s and XD40s on the Q58 during my freshman year i started to like these newer xcelsiors, i thought MTA Bus Co or Casey Stengel Depot might have these XD40s too but oh well, 7560-7819 are the new units to keep the memories of the late Orion VII CNGs i mainly see those numbers as old Gens than xcelsiors, when The Q58 returned to fresh pond, i only rode a small number of these Xcelsiors on my way to and from school as i was focusing my task to catch the retiring Orion VII OGs from 2004-2005, to end my thoughts and opinions i give these Xcelsiors a 10/10 for best looking buses of NYCT
Great Pinning point of following review presentation.
@@AutomotiveTaurus thanks man
Elegant Toyota Driver 7484-7850 will not be my bus. Nonegoes to MTA bus for PBL While the rest are for New York City bus.
Elegant Toyota Driver there’s a problem with Flatbush Depot, all 2017-2019 with SBS livery are operating on the B41 and other routes. The 2019 models are all at Michael J Quill depot.
Elegant Toyota Driver Flatbush Depot is not going to takeoff their SBS livery or scrape out the word SBS on both top and bottom of the bus that include the front and the back.
How come the M66 and M72 don’t have Orion VII OGs and NGs? Just these?
It's cause that they run through the transverse tunnels in central park. The NG and OGs can get their tanks hit on top.
Vulnerable Toyota did 7851 from Fresh Pond Depot sounded like 7484 to 7850?
Vulnerable Toyota Because in both buses they were supposed to be signifying the same transmission and the same engine.
@@AutomotiveTaurusCan run on short turns?
Those 2020 XD60s should run on the B15, B82-SBS and Q56 for J subway construction.
I heard that NJ Transit wants these XD40s to replace NABI 40-LFWs and XD35s to replace NABI 31-LFWs.
NABI-#4
Orion-#6
My favorite local bus they drive like the MCI 💝
I felt the same way, when the driver didn't have to press the pedal while the driver is in motion.
@@AutomotiveTaurus keep doing these videos i love them
Thank you.
New Flyer owns MCI
The B1 is articulated now, running on 2012-13 XD60s.
The B1 still uses these 2018-19 XD40s as well as the 2011-12 and 2015 XD40s everyday along with the 2012-13 XD60s.
Would 8 buses be fine for just one route?
Fine ?? It's supposed to be more than 20 per hour
Neoplan-#3
What is the difference between new flyer xd40 and xn40
The XD40s are fueled with diesels(indicated by the "D" in it's model). On their exterior, they have the half cut tanks on it's roof which is the air conditioning unit. Also, the XN40s are fueled with Compress Natural Gas(by the "N" in it's name). They have the full made tank on it's roof covering the natural gas cylinders in it.
@@AutomotiveTaurus thank u
Your welcome. If you want to check more buses, look for my playlist of NYC Transit reviews.
I believe that there should be no more standard +SBS buses, only articulated ones, that means LFSAs for the S79-SBS.
I know that the B82-SBS is running on these XD40s, but because Baisley Park Depot is too far away from Manhattan, it should give it’s XD60s, and trade with these for MTA Bus, and give their XD40s for East New York Depot, for B15 and B82-SBS in Fall, 2021, and the Q56 for J subway construction.
Here are the routes I think should Limited should project +SBS
B41-LTD turns into B41-SBS
Gilling-#5
I want to ride these. Orion busses are stupid!