Same here. They're very well-built but the ecosystem dependency is a bit annoying, there are limited customization options, and gaming is close to non-existent. I made it roughly 4 months before switching back
lol I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Some people say they have a great time gaming on them but I never really took the time to figure that all out... plus you usually need the latest chips which aren't cheap either. I'm happy to be back!
@@thesahdstudio Mac is a closed ecosystem It's easier for them and program developers to optimise/integrate programs very well But they take our full freedom, that sucks a big time It's all about freedom vs comfort Brave goes towards freedom 😎
Well, is not all that rosy on the Mac side. I recently returned a 14-inch M3 Pro Mac Book Pro. Some of the programs I used were too slow or did not run. Moreover, that unified memory is not as good as everybody says, as I was shown the dreaded beach ball on more than one occasion. Windows is complicated, but so is Finder, I could not see any of my photos or listen to my music because I was insistently asked to connect to iCloud and upload my info.
I appreciate the honesty. I have made multiple videos talking about Mac's and it's very rare people talk about anything negative... because I agree, they aren't perfect. What kind of programs were you using, popular programs or niche stuff?
GeForce Now on Mac...You can play Cyberpunk at 4k/60 (and you should) with everything turned on with DLSS Performance. If you feel it's soft, press CMD+G > Filter > Sharpening (set to preference) and it looks incredible. Some may cry bout the cost, but if you want it all and you want the best Apple has to offer, GFN really gives it to you. Also, I'd recommend hard wiring (especially since you're at a desk).
Yeah that's rad you can do that! I mean it's tough because for that same price you can get 100 plus FPS 4K on a giant screen on a desktop. But you just don't get the versatility of the laptop either. Tough to pick the right thing. I think for now I like having the big workstation and then I'll probably get a little side laptop for productivity. But yeah if the budget ever allows that might be a fun way to go.
Your videos helped me a lot about the final decisions about what I need. Just perfect. So .. AMD Ryzen 9 7900x with RTX 3060 12 GB would be fine. Because I only use H.265 8-bit 4:2:0 (Fuji camera, DJI Pocket Osmo). Quick Sync or a MacBook would be better, but do you think I am doing a big mistake? Going to start into Resovle Studio, short videos, maybe upgrade / change to intel in 2-3 years. Main headache is a smooth & fast playback (thats called the swichting through the video while editing?)
Honestly, Even though I just built a beast of a computer I still use proxies which will make that machine rip through the files like butter. I'm not sure if you're familiar with making proxies I did a video on it a while back... It takes like just a couple minutes and the click of one button. As long as you use that it almost doesn't matter what computer you use. Having a decent video card will be very helpful though for adding effects so that's awesome.
@@thesahdstudio Good to know! I dont have to try without proxies. Sounds like the Lightroom Smart Previews where you only need the original files while exporting. Your are now my first source about what runs good. Maybe in 2 years i am laughing seeing you go back to macOS. We need more money to have both systems.
Torn between the m3 pro 14 and the g14 2024. The g14 is 2K USD and has a nvidia rtx 4070 and 32gb ram with a ryzen 9 in it. I don't game but looking to get into content creation. Can't afford much beyond 18gb in a macbook. If i went for a mac it be refurbished only for me.
Yeah right call eh. I think with the windows machine you'll for sure have to use proxies but the pro might be good enough to depending on what codecs you use you might be able to have buttery smooth editing straight out of camera which is always nice in my opinion. Because you don't game I would probably lean towards the apple myself even with 18 gigs of RAM.
This is a kind of review when you're not *encouraged* by big brands. That's why it's natural, real and helpful. I forced myself to get an MBP M3 Pro and from day1 I regret it. I've just sold it and seeking for a good windows machine
Thanks for the comment! I hope to keep the sincerity as my channel grows. I guess it's a benefit of being a bit of an older RUclipsr. Lots of companies want me to review and recommend their crap and I'm just not interested unless it excited me. So what are you looking for in a computer that the M3 didn't do for you?
came to your channel because of your m3pro vs m3max video (finally some real live testing and just benchmarking, thank you!!!) and had to watch this. as a gamer my personal preference is to have a separate console and not have it all combined in one, but i get it. protip for mac stuff - only buy the computer from them and maybe the keyboard and mouse. monitors, headphones, etc etc - I never buy their overpriced peripherals, macs play well with 3rd party stuff.
Glad you found the channel! Yeah it's tough trying to find the right setup sometimes... I do have Xbox/Nintendo, but it's just not the same gaming on those as it is a PC. I really did like the Mac stuff but just didn't want to truly invest with them. I agree about the peripherals but was a little surprised you through headphones in there. I don't know if I've met an Apple person who didn't swear by the headphones too!
@@thesahdstudio personally i work with boses and am thinking of trying out the top of the line sonys with active noise cancelling next. as an editor i need to be able to have a cabled connection to avoid any latency with sound. Apple headphones don't exactly fit my need profile but I am sure they are nice. One more thing I wanted to mention for flexibility - best thing i got for my macbook pro workstation is a dock that handles all the connectied peripherals. so its super easy do disconnect (just one cabled connection) and go into laptop/couch mode 🙂
Hi there mate! Enjoy your videos. I hope that you can help me maybe. I just bought the M3 max 16 inch, but damn i feel like that is just to overkill. I'm a video editor with 4k files and yes i use effetcs here and there. With the m4 chips coming out very soon, what do you think i should do? Wait can see or just keep my macbook m3 max and use it? I hope that with the m4 chip, the Macbook pro (pro) edition will be a sweetspot and hopefully save 200-400 dollars from the m3 max.
Hello there! Thanks for comment. And yeah I know what you're going through. Honestly, the Max chips rip through video footage so well, it's such a treat. It's hard to go down to the Pro chip after you have experienced editing with those media engines. I would probably rather have the M3 Max than a M4 Pro personally. But it depends on you... the type of codecs you work with... how long you plan on keeping the computer...etc. I'm not sure what you spent on the M3 Max, if you bought it on sale etc... you might look to buying it 2nd hand with Applecare as I'm sure people will be upgrading to the latest thing OR just buy the M4 Max when it comes out. Then you'll be set for quite awhile and the sting of the payment will lessen after a year or so lol. Maybe what you should do though is return your Max and get the M4 Pro. You seem to be entertaining that idea and hey, it might be enough for you. Because of the footage I get from my Sony, I needed a Max chip, but it could be different for you. I hope you are able to make a decision you feel good about! I mean heck, do what I did and get a M1 Max... it'll still rip for you and save you big bucks.
@@thesahdstudio I kept the m3 max chip, and so far i really like it! Lets see when they release the m4, if i'm gonna regret it, and chould save some mony haha!
@@FrederikStendahl The m3 max chip is incredible. I am jealous. Enjoy it. Sure the m4 will be SLIGHTLY better, but will you actually notice those differences in your day to day usage? I can pretty much guarantee you won't. Like I said, the m1 max is still a beast to this day and the m3 max is quite a big better. I would have loved to keep it myself but the price when it first came out was just too much for me especially since I'm not in the ecosystem. Keep me posted with how it works for you!
@@thesahdstudio true story, I will probably not notice the difference in the end. So far it’s smooth and lovely in 16 inch. I just still can’t believe I paid so much for a laptop, I never understood people who did that, as I always have been a pc guy. But I have the portability and to be honest, it doesn’t bother me to edit on a 16 inch laptop. It’s VERY expensive, so I understand your choice. But personally, I’m a guy to loves to get the new things on the market, because I’m afraid of missing out, and regret, which is stupid. Happy to hear that the m1 works out for you needs 😄
I think I may have shared this before, so at the risk of repeating myself (while supporting your algorithms): I've got the M3 Pro MBP 14 as my primary computer hooked up to an affordable Samsung 4K monitor (on that HUANUO monitor stand you recommended). The rest of the ecosystem is an iPhone 14 and a Series 9 watch, and they all share their toys nicely. For AAA gaming I built a VERY modest Windows gaming PC by adding an SSD, a bunch of RAM, and an RTX A2000 to a Dell OptiPlex 9020 (the GPU is worth more than the computer). And just for giggles I recently added a second SSD to it and loaded Linux Mint on it (because you can never have too many OSs).
Haha that's awesome! Is it just fun tinkering around in Linux? Could you put a pi-hole on there? That sounds like a slick little setup with all your gear. It sounds nice.. I really don't do that much gaming so this setup might be a tad bit overkill but it should last for awhile anyway. Who knows... maybe I'll play GTA 6 when it comes out. I've played all the others (going back to #1!). And the a2000, is that card for work? I don't know much about those cards but they seem have a very different use case, but that's rad you can still game on them.
@@thesahdstudio The A2000s are low profile ray tracing work station cards (hence the RTX) that are perfect for a SFF build like my OptiPlex. Even better, they get their 75W power from the PCIE slot. I can't play current games at high settings, but mid to low delivers 60+ fps so I'm happy with it. I had a Pi4 in the past, that's how I got familiar with Ubuntu. Mint is based on Ubuntu too so the terminal commands are familiar (although I'm a novice).
Congrats on the cool gaming setup! I like the Apple keyboard that I use with my iPad Pro, but I just type with it, I don’t really use shortcuts or even use the trackpad. I’m in the Apple ecosystem currently with everything (iPhone 15 Pro Max, Apple AirPods, iPad Pro) other than the PC. It’s a little bit annoying because I can’t text from Windows and sharing files etc. is cumbersome. But general “PC” duties are perfectly serviceable on the iPad, on top of the best feature, mobility.
Thanks! Yeah that's what I figured with, well, whatever keyboard I put on the iPad... that it really doesn't matter the layout THAT much. It's just for comments just like this. It's tempting to just completely upgrade the iPad setup and get the latest thing but it's really for a pretty simple tasks like RUclips/comments and maybe a little bit of Hearthstone, heheh.
Hey, I've watched your numerous videos on MacBook and appreciate the content. I am planning to buy a M2 Pro MacBook for my video editing work, which includes 4k editing on Premier Pro and After Effects (dynamic link too). I already have a Windows PC so I just need the Macbook for portability. What are your thought on this? I know that "expensive, the better" in Macbook but what specifications do you suggest for my video editing needs? Any thoughts are welcome. Thanks 🥰
Ok, I found the Max chips to be so fantastic while editing video compared to the Pro One, It's hard for me to recommend anything else. I had bought the M3 Pro brand new but I ended up returning it and ultimately getting the M1 Max which I found to be a better video editing experience. I would keep my eyes peeled on deals secondhand for the max chip... As long as it has Apple support you should be good to go. And they're so good it doesn't even matter if it's an M2 or M1 it'll rip. I wish I had a better cheaper advice for you lol
@@thesahdstudio Thank you for the insights. I have heard a lot about smooth editing in Max chips but I'll plan for them instead of Pros. Appreciate the reply
@@biswajeettamang4578 No problem! Just, the fact you specifically said 4K video editing... I mean I did that on the Pro and didn't feel it was quite worth the price vs. performance. It's tough because if you buy second hand you just have to blindly trust people like me and my experience, OR you buy new which costs a bit more which is annoying but then you can return it if it doesn't deliver... it's just a bit more of a pain but a bit of a safer choice. Good luck on your quest! Let me know what you get. If you get a good deal on a Pro I'm sure you'd still be happy with it. It's good. The Max is just great! 😆
I'm with you. The M4's have been tempting, but I just can't do it. I know I'm going to hate it, regardless of the performance. I can't stand Apple, they're totally anti-consumer. Every time I've tried to go Apple, I've come to regret it.
Having switched back to Windows now I got to tell you... The video editing experience straight out of camera is just unparalleled on the Mac. I have to make proxies for every single projects now where I never used to even with my M1 Max with the same camera. If I was using it as a straight up work machine for creating content I would pick the Mac... But because I can't afford having extra machines and need to have just only one I choose the windows for my main lifestyle machine.
It doesn't really matter what the specs of Windows machines are when the OS is so poorly implemented that it frequently crashes under minimal load and struggles with functionality as basic as consistently connecting to Internet or loading data from an SD card. Maybe it was just my machine, but I got a well reviewed HP Omen with great specs and enjoyed it for gaming but hated it for everything else. I just got a new mac mini pro and am elated with how well things run. Now that the Steam Deck exists, I see no point in getting a Windows again.
Yeah I don't really blame you... I'm on my desktop right now and while the peripherals etc are great, the actual Windows experience and for me, video editing experience is sub-par to my old M1 Max MacBook Pro, it's crazy. The gaming on here is insane though even though I don't do it very often. Nice to have that available. I'd consider getting a decent Mac again but they're so experience for the video editing capable ones.
saya memakai windows untuk gaming, software pemetaan dan engineering. saya pakai mac buat tugas sehari2, kreasi music. sejujurnya macbook pro + bootcamp sempurna di tahun 2010-2020
@@thesahdstudio I use Garage band, and for light windows games I use crossover as the best windows emulator for my Old macbook pro 2019 16 inch. till now this MBP 2019 as my daily driver with windows 11 installed via bootcamp
@@thesahdstudio I use garage band. for light windows games and apps I use crossover as best windows emulator ever. my daily driver is an old macbook pro 2019 16 inch
Yeah that's sweet with the AMD laptop. It's nice to see the Windows guys step up their game (Qualcomm/AMD)... I think Intel will be coming out with their ARM laptops eventually and it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm really interested to see what they do in the next few years when their FABS are complete. I wonder if they will become big boy players again.
As a user of both and aside from the set up on windows, I am ok with either. I don't use a laptop Mac though (Macstudio), but I suspect you could get yourself a Thunderbolt or USB4 hub, connect everything to that and just have the one connection to put in to a laptop. I don't game, I also have an Android but I am ok transferring through a cable to my Macstudio if I need to. Shame that Android and Windows play with each other in a way that I imagine Iphone does with Mac OS and they won't do it with eachother, but hey, it's not the end of the world, I just plug my phone into a monitor and if it is on the same network my MX mouse seems able to transfer from one to another. I think that as much as there is something to be said for "ease of use", there are often ways around it. But as I said, I don't game, so, you know, that part really doesn't matter to me. Horses for courses and all that.
A company had sent a little hub but I wasn't able to connect speakers to it, so I had to plug multiple things in... I'm sure there are better hubs but, yeah... I DID want to do a little gaming and thought it would be fun to build my own computer (and it was!) so I am glad I went the way I did. I totally agree it's annoying the devices don't all play better together but what are you going to do. Is the Mac Studio pretty sweet? What monitor are you using with it?
@@thesahdstudio well, I thought I would try the Macstudio after decades with windows (though I used a Mac at college in the late80s early 90s) because the GPU prices had gone mad and it was time to replace bits and pieces in my windows desktop. It performs mostly well, mine is the M1 so not as many graphics cores as I would like, which means some of the Resolve effects can be a challenge and would likely be much smoother on a 4080/AMD equivalent, but for what I do, it is mostly fine. I think like everyone its the size, the power demands and the silence that I love. It is quick so goodness knows how much quicker the M4 and beyond might be , which will really help with CPU production tasks. But overall I like it. I imagine the real question is, when it comes to replacement time would I go back to windows. I really think that is mostly price dependant. You can, as you know, put one together yourself, have the upgrade path option and parts choice and its not super hard. I just need them to be more efficient in terms of power and noise and I may go back. On the sound thing, I have a fiioK9 headphone/DAC amp feeding powered speakers and headphones ( a little over the top, have had a K5 and K7 but had a little spare money) and it works from a hub, so perhaps one of those might be an option if you return to a Mac and get a hub or even use them on your PC. As for monitors, I have two LG 24" ultrafines for the more colour sensitive work ( again, for what I do they are fine and they play with Macs thankfully) and a 27" Dell for timeline/browsing/main screen stuff but it is running off one of the ultrafines 2nd TB port ( this one is on all the time, the other ultrafine is for a clean feed when editing, never on apart from that) and the much discussed "scaling" problems aren't a thing. I would love a 5k monitor and an even more colour accurate, proper HDR one, but weirdly, I have just bought my first Ipad, the M4 pro, so hopefully I can use that as a reference, we shall see. Sometimes there is benefit from just hacking things together and trying to get the best of both, I still use a Windows laptop for example. I am old enough to know when there really where problems in tech and most of the modern ones are an inconienence and a fair bit of "why can't it just ...." but blimey, they are a lot less than they used to be. Sorry for the waffle. Have a fine day of it. Oh, what I would like to see on PC motherboards is more USB4/TB ports, the good thing about the studio is the 4 TB4 ports and the card reader as well as a couple of USB As for legacy stuff though I do think they could have upped the speed of those and the front USB Cs, that was pretty rubbish. Not a "deal breaker" though, just one of those "why couldn't they just" moments! Love the thing though, warts and all.
I switched back and forth a few times in the last 2 years. But now I'm done. Windows is 100% exclusively for gaming only. Wouldn't want to touch Windows with a 10-foot pole for personal or work related work.
Haha, I'm glad I'm not alone switching back and forth over here 🤣 I'm used to Windows for downloading stuff, gaming, and video editing, and there aren't really any bottlenecks for me at this point... so while I could see how people would prefer the Apple OS etc... I'm content with Windows since I do get the added touch of gaming. What Apple computer are you rocking?!
It's funny, I was in Costco yesterday looking around at the tech while wifey was shopping, and out of all the laptops they had, I was drawn to the Surface Pro the most. Good suggestion 👊
Interesting points and views on the video, nice one. If you are interested in a normal laptop, the Snapdragon ones do seem very good on the battery usage, but note you can run in performance issues when using non native ARM applications because the emulation and translation involved and sometimes just complete compatibility problems with non ARM applications, also Qualcomm's graphic drivers can be quite messy as usual if you need something that relies on raster renderization. If you do need the battery usage efficiency, you can try waiting and looking at Intel's Lunar Lake that's launching around the last week of this month, it should have the power efficiency at low wattages whithout the compatibility issues with better graphics and graphics driver situation than the current Snapdragon Elite X platform. If you don't need that longest battery usage while keeping very good performance at low power limits, I think there's some good options from current Intel and AMD CPUs.
Thanks for the comment, and good points about the non-native arm applications. I'm not in a rush so I guess I'll wait to see maybe some black Friday deals?! Right now my big desktop is kind of set up in the main area of our house but the wife doesn't like it there so if I put it in my little RUclips studio it'll be the opposite corner of the house where nobody hangs out so I'll be all alone in there lol. Not the warmest room of the house either. Not sure what I'll do yet. My last laptop before the Apple stuff was an AMD one in it was pretty good. I'm curious to see what they're up to with their next laptops. The Intel ones will be interesting also.
@thesahdstudio I mean it seems more stable.. i have adjusted settings for updates. But it never seems to interfere with needing updates and yes very smooth and reliable day to day. I live in korea and i have a ultra 7 32gb galaxy book 4 pro.
Spent most of the 90's and 00's working on macs and would always think it would be nice to go back, then reality hits. Either get a decent pc and be able to upgrade the gpu in a couple of years for two grand or get a studio with less power four four grand. Then apple put all there stuff through the apple check list, a proprietary cable 👍go out there way so it can't be serviced by the user 👍 over charge for upgrades 👍completely changed technology in a couple of years so people have to upgrade 👍. Now the best thing apple machines do is power consumption.
Hehe yeah I hear that. I don't regret my decision. I mean to be fair that Apple stuff gets support for years and the batteries seem to last as well (on the laptops)... but yeah, I like being able to fix/expand my computer if I ever need to. You waiting for the 50's GPU's or what? :)
@@thesahdstudio just got an rx7900xt as they are almost half the price of an rtx4080 just now. With amd not doing a high end gpu with rnda4 nvidia prices will likely be even more insane so will be missing the next round of gpu's. Then I'll see where the mac's are upto in a couple of years. May get a tablet next though, m4 or galaxy s10, so I don't have to power up the beast for tinternet stuff.
I was just at the store yesterday and was drawn to the Surface laptop... it felt like a slick little machine that would be perfect for me. It's still a BIT more than I'd like to spend but it got me thinking.
FYI, Cyberpunk works on Apple Silicon. The non-Apple products work great on Mac. I use a Asus Gaming monitor and Steel-series headset. I play Hell divers, rocket League, Guild Wars 2, Cyberpunk, and Baldur’s Gate 3 on high settings. I do that all on an M3 MacBook Pro. I also run a virtual machine for windows to run applications that are windows only via Parallels.
Yeah eh?! And the performance is good enough? What kind of FPS would you get for Cyberpunk? You probably do it on battery too right!? 😆 Those m3's sure are dope.
I hate laptops. The form factor sucks. The whole thing is a huge compromise. Small screen, less than stellar keyboards, and no mouse. But if you need portability, then you have to accept a compromised system.
Right? It IS convenient to be able to be productive on your couch. But I agree there's nothing better than having a great setup that you can optimize for maximum efficiency and productivity.
So glad you switched, apple is greedy with their M chips which are designed to be obsolete. I sold my M1 mac with less than third of its original price in just a couple years.
You think they're designed to be obsolete eh? I felt they were just really rock solid (at least the MAX chips) and would be relevant for the near future since most programs nowadays felt nice and smooth on them. But yeah, there's just something about having the ability to upgrade and there's something comforting on Windows for me. Glad to be back 👊
APPLE DOES NOT SUCK ........BUT IT WILL SUCK UR BLOOD ...................FOR DESKTOP .......WINDOWS PC IS BEST ............FOR LAPTOPS .......MACBOOK R GUD IF U CAN AFFORD HIGH RAM SSD COST
Sorry what? About the installation, every time you open a new MAC - you need to go through a BOATLOAD of screens, setting up everything from Siri, to Themes, to Timezones, Apple ID, language - It by no means a shorter experience than setting up a new Windows.
Oh I hear you... in the last year I set up 3 different MacBooks and built 2 Windows Desktops and the Windows ones were worse for me... it's after the install is done too that they are worse... you need to install windows updates and find extra drivers, and change so many settings. They both suck! I just found Mac to suck a little less 🤣
The first most obvious problem is needing to play games. Stop doing that and work your spreadsheet skills or python or something. That solves the need to have windows, or a least a windows computer not provided by work.
Yeah I hear you. Gaming is fun for me. I don't get to see my buds very often so being able to socialize and play games for an hour here or there brings me joy. Especially in a house with a wife and two daughters... sometimes I need to drive around really fast or run around destroying things in a game lol.
@@rkymtnchi503 Like working on spreadsheets and Python? Or creating another sock puppet? I don't know, I stopped liking games 30 years ago and don't find any enjoyment playing them.. figuring stuff out that's going to benefit me is my game. I guess I can't relate. Everyone is different I suppose.
Yeah I hear you. Apple felt great to just. Windows nowadays with the latest hardware feels pretty slick too. Better than I expected. It doesn't all play together as nice as apple but it had some things it does well. Hopefully one day I can get all the Apple stuff and really submerge.
Nice video! I'll also be here for the "I switched back to Mac!" video next month 😂
Lmao 🤣
@2:55 peak video editing, lol. Also, nice moves :D
Haha thanks for noticing 👊
Same here. They're very well-built but the ecosystem dependency is a bit annoying, there are limited customization options, and gaming is close to non-existent. I made it roughly 4 months before switching back
lol I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Some people say they have a great time gaming on them but I never really took the time to figure that all out... plus you usually need the latest chips which aren't cheap either. I'm happy to be back!
@@thesahdstudio
Mac is a closed ecosystem
It's easier for them and program developers to optimise/integrate programs very well
But they take our full freedom, that sucks a big time
It's all about freedom vs comfort
Brave goes towards freedom 😎
MBP + gaming pc. Best of both worlds
See, you get it! 👊
Well, is not all that rosy on the Mac side. I recently returned a 14-inch M3 Pro Mac Book Pro. Some of the programs I used were too slow or did not run. Moreover, that unified memory is not as good as everybody says, as I was shown the dreaded beach ball on more than one occasion. Windows is complicated, but so is Finder, I could not see any of my photos or listen to my music because I was insistently asked to connect to iCloud and upload my info.
I appreciate the honesty. I have made multiple videos talking about Mac's and it's very rare people talk about anything negative... because I agree, they aren't perfect. What kind of programs were you using, popular programs or niche stuff?
GeForce Now on Mac...You can play Cyberpunk at 4k/60 (and you should) with everything turned on with DLSS Performance. If you feel it's soft, press CMD+G > Filter > Sharpening (set to preference) and it looks incredible. Some may cry bout the cost, but if you want it all and you want the best Apple has to offer, GFN really gives it to you. Also, I'd recommend hard wiring (especially since you're at a desk).
Yeah that's rad you can do that! I mean it's tough because for that same price you can get 100 plus FPS 4K on a giant screen on a desktop. But you just don't get the versatility of the laptop either. Tough to pick the right thing. I think for now I like having the big workstation and then I'll probably get a little side laptop for productivity. But yeah if the budget ever allows that might be a fun way to go.
Your videos helped me a lot about the final decisions about what I need. Just perfect. So .. AMD Ryzen 9 7900x with RTX 3060 12 GB would be fine. Because I only use H.265 8-bit 4:2:0 (Fuji camera, DJI Pocket Osmo). Quick Sync or a MacBook would be better, but do you think I am doing a big mistake? Going to start into Resovle Studio, short videos, maybe upgrade / change to intel in 2-3 years. Main headache is a smooth & fast playback (thats called the swichting through the video while editing?)
Honestly, Even though I just built a beast of a computer I still use proxies which will make that machine rip through the files like butter. I'm not sure if you're familiar with making proxies I did a video on it a while back... It takes like just a couple minutes and the click of one button. As long as you use that it almost doesn't matter what computer you use. Having a decent video card will be very helpful though for adding effects so that's awesome.
@@thesahdstudio Good to know! I dont have to try without proxies. Sounds like the Lightroom Smart Previews where you only need the original files while exporting. Your are now my first source about what runs good. Maybe in 2 years i am laughing seeing you go back to macOS. We need more money to have both systems.
ok @RyanKorea said next month
Torn between the m3 pro 14 and the g14 2024. The g14 is 2K USD and has a nvidia rtx 4070 and 32gb ram with a ryzen 9 in it. I don't game but looking to get into content creation. Can't afford much beyond 18gb in a macbook. If i went for a mac it be refurbished only for me.
Yeah right call eh. I think with the windows machine you'll for sure have to use proxies but the pro might be good enough to depending on what codecs you use you might be able to have buttery smooth editing straight out of camera which is always nice in my opinion. Because you don't game I would probably lean towards the apple myself even with 18 gigs of RAM.
This is a kind of review when you're not *encouraged* by big brands. That's why it's natural, real and helpful.
I forced myself to get an MBP M3 Pro and from day1 I regret it. I've just sold it and seeking for a good windows machine
Thanks for the comment! I hope to keep the sincerity as my channel grows. I guess it's a benefit of being a bit of an older RUclipsr. Lots of companies want me to review and recommend their crap and I'm just not interested unless it excited me.
So what are you looking for in a computer that the M3 didn't do for you?
came to your channel because of your m3pro vs m3max video (finally some real live testing and just benchmarking, thank you!!!) and had to watch this. as a gamer my personal preference is to have a separate console and not have it all combined in one, but i get it. protip for mac stuff - only buy the computer from them and maybe the keyboard and mouse. monitors, headphones, etc etc - I never buy their overpriced peripherals, macs play well with 3rd party stuff.
Glad you found the channel! Yeah it's tough trying to find the right setup sometimes... I do have Xbox/Nintendo, but it's just not the same gaming on those as it is a PC. I really did like the Mac stuff but just didn't want to truly invest with them. I agree about the peripherals but was a little surprised you through headphones in there. I don't know if I've met an Apple person who didn't swear by the headphones too!
@@thesahdstudio personally i work with boses and am thinking of trying out the top of the line sonys with active noise cancelling next. as an editor i need to be able to have a cabled connection to avoid any latency with sound. Apple headphones don't exactly fit my need profile but I am sure they are nice. One more thing I wanted to mention for flexibility - best thing i got for my macbook pro workstation is a dock that handles all the connectied peripherals. so its super easy do disconnect (just one cabled connection) and go into laptop/couch mode 🙂
Hi there mate! Enjoy your videos. I hope that you can help me maybe. I just bought the M3 max 16 inch, but damn i feel like that is just to overkill. I'm a video editor with 4k files and yes i use effetcs here and there. With the m4 chips coming out very soon, what do you think i should do? Wait can see or just keep my macbook m3 max and use it? I hope that with the m4 chip, the Macbook pro (pro) edition will be a sweetspot and hopefully save 200-400 dollars from the m3 max.
Hello there! Thanks for comment. And yeah I know what you're going through. Honestly, the Max chips rip through video footage so well, it's such a treat. It's hard to go down to the Pro chip after you have experienced editing with those media engines. I would probably rather have the M3 Max than a M4 Pro personally. But it depends on you... the type of codecs you work with... how long you plan on keeping the computer...etc.
I'm not sure what you spent on the M3 Max, if you bought it on sale etc... you might look to buying it 2nd hand with Applecare as I'm sure people will be upgrading to the latest thing OR just buy the M4 Max when it comes out. Then you'll be set for quite awhile and the sting of the payment will lessen after a year or so lol.
Maybe what you should do though is return your Max and get the M4 Pro. You seem to be entertaining that idea and hey, it might be enough for you. Because of the footage I get from my Sony, I needed a Max chip, but it could be different for you. I hope you are able to make a decision you feel good about!
I mean heck, do what I did and get a M1 Max... it'll still rip for you and save you big bucks.
@@thesahdstudio I kept the m3 max chip, and so far i really like it! Lets see when they release the m4, if i'm gonna regret it, and chould save some mony haha!
@@FrederikStendahl The m3 max chip is incredible. I am jealous. Enjoy it. Sure the m4 will be SLIGHTLY better, but will you actually notice those differences in your day to day usage? I can pretty much guarantee you won't.
Like I said, the m1 max is still a beast to this day and the m3 max is quite a big better. I would have loved to keep it myself but the price when it first came out was just too much for me especially since I'm not in the ecosystem.
Keep me posted with how it works for you!
@@thesahdstudio true story, I will probably not notice the difference in the end. So far it’s smooth and lovely in 16 inch. I just still can’t believe I paid so much for a laptop, I never understood people who did that, as I always have been a pc guy. But I have the portability and to be honest, it doesn’t bother me to edit on a 16 inch laptop.
It’s VERY expensive, so I understand your choice. But personally, I’m a guy to loves to get the new things on the market, because I’m afraid of missing out, and regret, which is stupid.
Happy to hear that the m1 works out for you needs 😄
I think I may have shared this before, so at the risk of repeating myself (while supporting your algorithms): I've got the M3 Pro MBP 14 as my primary computer hooked up to an affordable Samsung 4K monitor (on that HUANUO monitor stand you recommended). The rest of the ecosystem is an iPhone 14 and a Series 9 watch, and they all share their toys nicely. For AAA gaming I built a VERY modest Windows gaming PC by adding an SSD, a bunch of RAM, and an RTX A2000 to a Dell OptiPlex 9020 (the GPU is worth more than the computer). And just for giggles I recently added a second SSD to it and loaded Linux Mint on it (because you can never have too many OSs).
Haha that's awesome! Is it just fun tinkering around in Linux? Could you put a pi-hole on there? That sounds like a slick little setup with all your gear. It sounds nice.. I really don't do that much gaming so this setup might be a tad bit overkill but it should last for awhile anyway. Who knows... maybe I'll play GTA 6 when it comes out. I've played all the others (going back to #1!). And the a2000, is that card for work? I don't know much about those cards but they seem have a very different use case, but that's rad you can still game on them.
@@thesahdstudio The A2000s are low profile ray tracing work station cards (hence the RTX) that are perfect for a SFF build like my OptiPlex. Even better, they get their 75W power from the PCIE slot. I can't play current games at high settings, but mid to low delivers 60+ fps so I'm happy with it.
I had a Pi4 in the past, that's how I got familiar with Ubuntu. Mint is based on Ubuntu too so the terminal commands are familiar (although I'm a novice).
Congrats on the cool gaming setup! I like the Apple keyboard that I use with my iPad Pro, but I just type with it, I don’t really use shortcuts or even use the trackpad.
I’m in the Apple ecosystem currently with everything (iPhone 15 Pro Max, Apple AirPods, iPad Pro) other than the PC. It’s a little bit annoying because I can’t text from Windows and sharing files etc. is cumbersome. But general “PC” duties are perfectly serviceable on the iPad, on top of the best feature, mobility.
Thanks! Yeah that's what I figured with, well, whatever keyboard I put on the iPad... that it really doesn't matter the layout THAT much. It's just for comments just like this. It's tempting to just completely upgrade the iPad setup and get the latest thing but it's really for a pretty simple tasks like RUclips/comments and maybe a little bit of Hearthstone, heheh.
Hey,
I've watched your numerous videos on MacBook and appreciate the content.
I am planning to buy a M2 Pro MacBook for my video editing work, which includes 4k editing on Premier Pro and After Effects (dynamic link too). I already have a Windows PC so I just need the Macbook for portability.
What are your thought on this? I know that "expensive, the better" in Macbook but what specifications do you suggest for my video editing needs? Any thoughts are welcome.
Thanks 🥰
Ok, I found the Max chips to be so fantastic while editing video compared to the Pro One, It's hard for me to recommend anything else. I had bought the M3 Pro brand new but I ended up returning it and ultimately getting the M1 Max which I found to be a better video editing experience. I would keep my eyes peeled on deals secondhand for the max chip... As long as it has Apple support you should be good to go. And they're so good it doesn't even matter if it's an M2 or M1 it'll rip. I wish I had a better cheaper advice for you lol
@@thesahdstudio Thank you for the insights.
I have heard a lot about smooth editing in Max chips but I'll plan for them instead of Pros.
Appreciate the reply
@@biswajeettamang4578 No problem! Just, the fact you specifically said 4K video editing... I mean I did that on the Pro and didn't feel it was quite worth the price vs. performance. It's tough because if you buy second hand you just have to blindly trust people like me and my experience, OR you buy new which costs a bit more which is annoying but then you can return it if it doesn't deliver... it's just a bit more of a pain but a bit of a safer choice. Good luck on your quest! Let me know what you get. If you get a good deal on a Pro I'm sure you'd still be happy with it. It's good. The Max is just great! 😆
@@thesahdstudio Thank you.
Surely, will let you know 😉
I'm with you. The M4's have been tempting, but I just can't do it. I know I'm going to hate it, regardless of the performance. I can't stand Apple, they're totally anti-consumer. Every time I've tried to go Apple, I've come to regret it.
Having switched back to Windows now I got to tell you... The video editing experience straight out of camera is just unparalleled on the Mac. I have to make proxies for every single projects now where I never used to even with my M1 Max with the same camera. If I was using it as a straight up work machine for creating content I would pick the Mac... But because I can't afford having extra machines and need to have just only one I choose the windows for my main lifestyle machine.
It doesn't really matter what the specs of Windows machines are when the OS is so poorly implemented that it frequently crashes under minimal load and struggles with functionality as basic as consistently connecting to Internet or loading data from an SD card. Maybe it was just my machine, but I got a well reviewed HP Omen with great specs and enjoyed it for gaming but hated it for everything else. I just got a new mac mini pro and am elated with how well things run. Now that the Steam Deck exists, I see no point in getting a Windows again.
Yeah I don't really blame you... I'm on my desktop right now and while the peripherals etc are great, the actual Windows experience and for me, video editing experience is sub-par to my old M1 Max MacBook Pro, it's crazy. The gaming on here is insane though even though I don't do it very often. Nice to have that available. I'd consider getting a decent Mac again but they're so experience for the video editing capable ones.
Just get a refurbished Thinkbook L14 for like 400 with Ryzen 5 pro with upgradable ram. I have both and both have its pros and cons
Cool, thanks for the share! I'll keep my eyes peeled 👊
saya memakai windows untuk gaming, software pemetaan dan engineering. saya pakai mac buat tugas sehari2, kreasi music. sejujurnya macbook pro + bootcamp sempurna di tahun 2010-2020
What app do you use for making music? That's sweet you can bounce around. What is your daily driver computer now, a Mac?
@@thesahdstudio I use Garage band, and for light windows games I use crossover as the best windows emulator for my Old macbook pro 2019 16 inch. till now this MBP 2019 as my daily driver with windows 11 installed via bootcamp
@@thesahdstudio I use garage band. for light windows games and apps I use crossover as best windows emulator ever. my daily driver is an old macbook pro 2019 16 inch
Like going from a Lamborghini to a Skoda
Lol
For your question, I've just experienced same things and I'll about to buy an Asus with Amd Ai CPU which has great battery life compared to intel ones
Yeah that's sweet with the AMD laptop. It's nice to see the Windows guys step up their game (Qualcomm/AMD)... I think Intel will be coming out with their ARM laptops eventually and it'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm really interested to see what they do in the next few years when their FABS are complete. I wonder if they will become big boy players again.
As a user of both and aside from the set up on windows, I am ok with either. I don't use a laptop Mac though (Macstudio), but I suspect you could get yourself a Thunderbolt or USB4 hub, connect everything to that and just have the one connection to put in to a laptop. I don't game, I also have an Android but I am ok transferring through a cable to my Macstudio if I need to. Shame that Android and Windows play with each other in a way that I imagine Iphone does with Mac OS and they won't do it with eachother, but hey, it's not the end of the world, I just plug my phone into a monitor and if it is on the same network my MX mouse seems able to transfer from one to another. I think that as much as there is something to be said for "ease of use", there are often ways around it. But as I said, I don't game, so, you know, that part really doesn't matter to me. Horses for courses and all that.
A company had sent a little hub but I wasn't able to connect speakers to it, so I had to plug multiple things in... I'm sure there are better hubs but, yeah... I DID want to do a little gaming and thought it would be fun to build my own computer (and it was!) so I am glad I went the way I did. I totally agree it's annoying the devices don't all play better together but what are you going to do. Is the Mac Studio pretty sweet? What monitor are you using with it?
@@thesahdstudio well, I thought I would try the Macstudio after decades with windows (though I used a Mac at college in the late80s early 90s) because the GPU prices had gone mad and it was time to replace bits and pieces in my windows desktop. It performs mostly well, mine is the M1 so not as many graphics cores as I would like, which means some of the Resolve effects can be a challenge and would likely be much smoother on a 4080/AMD equivalent, but for what I do, it is mostly fine. I think like everyone its the size, the power demands and the silence that I love. It is quick so goodness knows how much quicker the M4 and beyond might be , which will really help with CPU production tasks. But overall I like it. I imagine the real question is, when it comes to replacement time would I go back to windows. I really think that is mostly price dependant. You can, as you know, put one together yourself, have the upgrade path option and parts choice and its not super hard. I just need them to be more efficient in terms of power and noise and I may go back. On the sound thing, I have a fiioK9 headphone/DAC amp feeding powered speakers and headphones ( a little over the top, have had a K5 and K7 but had a little spare money) and it works from a hub, so perhaps one of those might be an option if you return to a Mac and get a hub or even use them on your PC. As for monitors, I have two LG 24" ultrafines for the more colour sensitive work ( again, for what I do they are fine and they play with Macs thankfully) and a 27" Dell for timeline/browsing/main screen stuff but it is running off one of the ultrafines 2nd TB port ( this one is on all the time, the other ultrafine is for a clean feed when editing, never on apart from that) and the much discussed "scaling" problems aren't a thing. I would love a 5k monitor and an even more colour accurate, proper HDR one, but weirdly, I have just bought my first Ipad, the M4 pro, so hopefully I can use that as a reference, we shall see. Sometimes there is benefit from just hacking things together and trying to get the best of both, I still use a Windows laptop for example. I am old enough to know when there really where problems in tech and most of the modern ones are an inconienence and a fair bit of "why can't it just ...." but blimey, they are a lot less than they used to be. Sorry for the waffle. Have a fine day of it. Oh, what I would like to see on PC motherboards is more USB4/TB ports, the good thing about the studio is the 4 TB4 ports and the card reader as well as a couple of USB As for legacy stuff though I do think they could have upped the speed of those and the front USB Cs, that was pretty rubbish. Not a "deal breaker" though, just one of those "why couldn't they just" moments! Love the thing though, warts and all.
@@ggproductions7078 Haha that's was great, thanks for sharing. Appreciate it and learned some things 👊
I switched back and forth a few times in the last 2 years. But now I'm done. Windows is 100% exclusively for gaming only. Wouldn't want to touch Windows with a 10-foot pole for personal or work related work.
Haha, I'm glad I'm not alone switching back and forth over here 🤣 I'm used to Windows for downloading stuff, gaming, and video editing, and there aren't really any bottlenecks for me at this point... so while I could see how people would prefer the Apple OS etc... I'm content with Windows since I do get the added touch of gaming. What Apple computer are you rocking?!
This is the answer! And I don't game so I get to skip the whole Windows thing altogether.
if i=you just need a windows laptop for portability then i suggest the surface laptop or surface pro -- then for smthg more powerful the asus rog g14
It's funny, I was in Costco yesterday looking around at the tech while wifey was shopping, and out of all the laptops they had, I was drawn to the Surface Pro the most. Good suggestion 👊
Interesting points and views on the video, nice one.
If you are interested in a normal laptop, the Snapdragon ones do seem very good on the battery usage, but note you can run in performance issues when using non native ARM applications because the emulation and translation involved and sometimes just complete compatibility problems with non ARM applications, also Qualcomm's graphic drivers can be quite messy as usual if you need something that relies on raster renderization. If you do need the battery usage efficiency, you can try waiting and looking at Intel's Lunar Lake that's launching around the last week of this month, it should have the power efficiency at low wattages whithout the compatibility issues with better graphics and graphics driver situation than the current Snapdragon Elite X platform.
If you don't need that longest battery usage while keeping very good performance at low power limits, I think there's some good options from current Intel and AMD CPUs.
Thanks for the comment, and good points about the non-native arm applications. I'm not in a rush so I guess I'll wait to see maybe some black Friday deals?! Right now my big desktop is kind of set up in the main area of our house but the wife doesn't like it there so if I put it in my little RUclips studio it'll be the opposite corner of the house where nobody hangs out so I'll be all alone in there lol. Not the warmest room of the house either. Not sure what I'll do yet.
My last laptop before the Apple stuff was an AMD one in it was pretty good. I'm curious to see what they're up to with their next laptops. The Intel ones will be interesting also.
I have found my samsung laptop to have the advantage of Windows for gaming but it also has the hassel free mac experience.
Do you just mean because the Samsung interface is nice and smooth? Does it use normal Windows with Samsungs own apps integrated or?
@thesahdstudio I mean it seems more stable.. i have adjusted settings for updates. But it never seems to interfere with needing updates and yes very smooth and reliable day to day.
I live in korea and i have a ultra 7 32gb galaxy book 4 pro.
Spent most of the 90's and 00's working on macs and would always think it would be nice to go back, then reality hits. Either get a decent pc and be able to upgrade the gpu in a couple of years for two grand or get a studio with less power four four grand. Then apple put all there stuff through the apple check list, a proprietary cable 👍go out there way so it can't be serviced by the user 👍 over charge for upgrades 👍completely changed technology in a couple of years so people have to upgrade 👍. Now the best thing apple machines do is power consumption.
Hehe yeah I hear that. I don't regret my decision. I mean to be fair that Apple stuff gets support for years and the batteries seem to last as well (on the laptops)... but yeah, I like being able to fix/expand my computer if I ever need to. You waiting for the 50's GPU's or what? :)
@@thesahdstudio just got an rx7900xt as they are almost half the price of an rtx4080 just now. With amd not doing a high end gpu with rnda4 nvidia prices will likely be even more insane so will be missing the next round of gpu's. Then I'll see where the mac's are upto in a couple of years. May get a tablet next though, m4 or galaxy s10, so I don't have to power up the beast for tinternet stuff.
@titianobsidian6549 sick! That's a nice card. Playing anything fun?
Surface laptop go 2. A really good cost effective mobile laptop. No gaming, but productivity is the strongpoint.
I was just at the store yesterday and was drawn to the Surface laptop... it felt like a slick little machine that would be perfect for me. It's still a BIT more than I'd like to spend but it got me thinking.
@@thesahdstudio Get the Laptop Go 2 if you want a companion device.
mac fanboi you should try opencore but thats probably to complicated
Mac fanboy...me? The guy who sold his Mac and built a Windows machine 😆
Whats opencore for?
Mac + PS5 = sorted
That IS a nice setup indeed. Plus Sony games...
FYI, Cyberpunk works on Apple Silicon.
The non-Apple products work great on Mac.
I use a Asus Gaming monitor and Steel-series headset.
I play Hell divers, rocket League, Guild Wars 2, Cyberpunk, and Baldur’s Gate 3 on high settings.
I do that all on an M3 MacBook Pro.
I also run a virtual machine for windows to run applications that are windows only via Parallels.
Yeah eh?! And the performance is good enough? What kind of FPS would you get for Cyberpunk?
You probably do it on battery too right!? 😆 Those m3's sure are dope.
@@thesahdstudio I got a Max so I get a locked 60
I hate laptops. The form factor sucks. The whole thing is a huge compromise. Small screen, less than stellar keyboards, and no mouse. But if you need portability, then you have to accept a compromised system.
Right? It IS convenient to be able to be productive on your couch. But I agree there's nothing better than having a great setup that you can optimize for maximum efficiency and productivity.
So glad you switched, apple is greedy with their M chips which are designed to be obsolete. I sold my M1 mac with less than third of its original price in just a couple years.
You think they're designed to be obsolete eh? I felt they were just really rock solid (at least the MAX chips) and would be relevant for the near future since most programs nowadays felt nice and smooth on them. But yeah, there's just something about having the ability to upgrade and there's something comforting on Windows for me. Glad to be back 👊
I could never be teethered to neither, Mac makes you get an app to do simple stuff to bridge to windows together, annoyying!
Hehe! This is a good attitude to have and I'm kind of in the same camp. Get the tool that gets the job done until a better tool comes along.
APPLE DOES NOT SUCK ........BUT IT WILL SUCK UR BLOOD ...................FOR DESKTOP .......WINDOWS PC IS BEST ............FOR LAPTOPS .......MACBOOK R GUD IF U CAN AFFORD HIGH RAM SSD COST
Hehe. I don't disagree!
You think Windows installation process isn't smooth try Linux. 😅
Really??! Just followed with questions through a wizard or.... What makes it complicated?
Sorry what? About the installation, every time you open a new MAC - you need to go through a BOATLOAD of screens, setting up everything from Siri, to Themes, to Timezones, Apple ID, language - It by no means a shorter experience than setting up a new Windows.
Oh I hear you... in the last year I set up 3 different MacBooks and built 2 Windows Desktops and the Windows ones were worse for me... it's after the install is done too that they are worse... you need to install windows updates and find extra drivers, and change so many settings. They both suck! I just found Mac to suck a little less 🤣
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what the heck did u do
I CAN'T STOP 😆
The first most obvious problem is needing to play games. Stop doing that and work your spreadsheet skills or python or something. That solves the need to have windows, or a least a windows computer not provided by work.
Yeah I hear you. Gaming is fun for me. I don't get to see my buds very often so being able to socialize and play games for an hour here or there brings me joy. Especially in a house with a wife and two daughters... sometimes I need to drive around really fast or run around destroying things in a game lol.
Why avoid doing something you find fun and enjoy?
@@rkymtnchi503 Like working on spreadsheets and Python? Or creating another sock puppet? I don't know, I stopped liking games 30 years ago and don't find any enjoyment playing them.. figuring stuff out that's going to benefit me is my game. I guess I can't relate. Everyone is different I suppose.
@@mendodave we all do things to benefit ourselves, some of also do things purely for fun. Yes, everyone is different.
Couldn't figure out macOS, huh?
Nope too complicated 🤪
Once you get used to MacOS and its smooth interface and graphics, Windows becomes a pain. Too choppy and crude. Lacking finesse.
Yeah I hear you. Apple felt great to just. Windows nowadays with the latest hardware feels pretty slick too. Better than I expected. It doesn't all play together as nice as apple but it had some things it does well. Hopefully one day I can get all the Apple stuff and really submerge.