When the Paleys were first married they lived at The St. Regis for a number of years which was decorated by Billy Baldwin later they moved to 820 Fifth Avenue which was decorated by Parish Hadley.
Great class and elegance and that's what comes from having so much money. She was a true interior designer who had that as her profession but didn't need any money to earn from it. If she had not been so wealthy from her husband's wealth she probably would have been just as equally successful as a top interior designer being paid for her work. Brava! Well done
@@sandykay2311 oh, thanks!! I was agonising over it. Maybe a sign of the times she lived in. But I find Lee Radzwill more to my taste, even if a bit overdone, as the period allowed.
Hmm - needed better coordination between the images and the narration. There is a verbal reference to the Paley's famous chandelier (the one with a clock) but it is illustrated with a photo of an ordinary chandelier. A discussion of Mrs. Paley's decor and paintings is illustrated with a photo of a red room with a giant portrait of Truman Capote - clearly a picture from Capote's own apartment at the UN Plaza, not a Paley residence. There are photos in the video which I recognize to be genuine images from Mrs. Paley's homes, but errors like the two I list above make me wonder if the video as a whole can be trusted.
agreed. great photos, but continuity is a bit scarce and it seems to have doubled back on itself at one point. nonetheless... better than I could have done.
I love all of their homes, but the apartment in New York with the beautiful curtains on the walls is priceless!! I have never seen that before and didn’t even know it was a thing!!!❤❤❤
Socialite Life was a unique class in time, it's elegance & etiquette were lovely but none were happy & in love, a rich man/women's game of daily gossip but never true love and happiness, their ignored children suffered most, had 2b a stressful way of living just keeping up materialistically, correction; staying up. Still a very Interesting watch and read especially during my yrs 60/70s but I wldnt change my life for that if cld i love my comfortable easy life surrounded in love. Easy today to Monday Night quarterbacks still i appreciate & thanks you for this awesome video 🫶
The chronology seems off here. Narrator talks about the St Regis apartment as if it existed alongside the Fifth Ave one. No, they moved from the St Regis to Fifth Ave. Also makes we wonder if they had two houses on Long Island and two homes in the Carribean, or like the NYC apartments, one was older and the other one newer.
The narrator claims that the interiors showed exquisite taste, but to me it looks like a busy pastiche you could barely move around in. Apparently, the Paleys were not comfortable in these houses, as they couldn't stay put in any one of them, and went out to eat instead of having their "friends" over. All that space, all that opulence, and the Paley's didn't even have sex for over a decade, (he cheated on her constantly and held her in disdain), and alienated their children. This does not sound like success to me.
She gave him the entrance into society which Jews could not access. He needed her more than she needed him. He was desperate to break into WASP circles
You guys are so meow cat mean. She made people with a nod yes. If Babe wanted it so did everyone else. The original influencer. Every one has their ideas of success. No one in this thread has ever been more elegant, or well educated,well mannered, or follow thorugh. She was cultured, and well liked. No ones marriage was perfect back then. She head herself to a standard of perfection not many people could do. Before you criticize her, maybe get to know the time she lived in and what she influenced.
Babe was a collector of everything. Antiques or not, it was sort of closed in. Perhaps her homes should have had more square footage to properly fit all of her furniture because, her places were plentiful and a bit cluttered! Maybe that was wealth during that time. I loved her Jamaican home with the pool but evan, it appeared to have many items. Then again; there was great seating for all of.her guest!
When u said she like her sheets ironed twice All I had were flashbacks to a cleaning client I used to have that liked for me to iron his sheets. Have you ever ironed a fitted sheet 😩
She paid a professional decorator to come up with what to 21st century taste appears to be a cluttered clashing maximalist bric- a -brac packed design pastiche. Perhaps her "exquisite taste" looks better on the radio.
...& you can't take it with you when you die. ...& she was HOLLOW inside lonely & unhappy ...& she was living for everyone elses judements on her. What a selfish suffocated life ... tons of acquaintances - no real true friends her children just had & shuffled off to nannies & boarding schools always chasing money & a husband always sleeping around on you - no matter how perfect she was. WHAT A WASTE OF A LIFE.
You can't buy class. Either you have it or you don't, despite how much money you have. You can learn proper etiquette, how to dress, etc. Elegance is also learned and here is where money matters. People with money don't always have taste. People with taste don't always have money.
I fail to see ANY significant contribution she made to humanity. She was not known as a philanthropist. With all her money, social power and influence she did NOTHING for anybody who was struggling, living on the margins of society. Her alleged "accomplishments" were being a pampered socialite, clotheshorse, interior decorator and going to parties. She was emotionally broken and spent her entire life miserable. Married to a sex-a-holic philanderer who repeatedly humiliated her with his flagrant adultery. Bill Paley was an EROTIC VAGRANT. Her tragic friendship with Truman Capote was the ultimate beytrayal be her closest friend and confidant and for THAT I do have genuine empathy and compassion for her. I am watching HULU Feud, Capote and the Swans and it is FASCINATING I highly recommend it if you are interested by the 1960s Manhanttan social scene - the backstabbing, treachery and ruthlessness of high society awash with glitter, glamor and allure. Spellinding series!
Sweetie - I want to be your friend. I agree wholeheartedly with your statement here. I get so frustrated reading the comments of naive people who think these folks are better, more special than themselves. It may be an apocryphal story about the conversation between Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald where Fitzgerald supposedly said "you know, the rich are different from you and me" and Hemingway said, "yes, they have more money." These people are not special - they just have more money. Even when I was in my teens, I used to be aghast that Vogue magazine would act like wearing great clothes was some sort of achievement. it isn't. Swans? IMO more like turkeys!
Simply lovely but as well to do as they were they weren’t particularly happy. To get so angry at Truman Capote Book “Answered Prayers” shows even Capote was miserable having so much money when he came from such humble beginnings. I came from some privilege having nannies and such but truly believe more of a less cluttered life. Surroundings and the mind. Contemporary is more my style. Less is More. Cheers 🎉
Anyone can be thin if you smoke like a chimney stack. Did any of them hold the hand of a dying friend or help out at a soup kitchen. Thimk not. Superficial material world
She wasn't a golddigger,she came from money herself, Cushing disease is actually named after her dad and even Introduced get husband to the high society life and he paid her back with infidelity
When the Paleys were first married they lived at The St. Regis for a number of years which was decorated by Billy Baldwin later they moved to 820 Fifth Avenue which was decorated by Parish Hadley.
Sister Parish had wonderful taste.
I don’t like the fabric walls. I prefer art
Great class and elegance and that's what comes from having so much money. She was a true interior designer who had that as her profession but didn't need any money to earn from it. If she had not been so wealthy from her husband's wealth she probably would have been just as equally successful as a top interior designer being paid for her work. Brava! Well done
I think her homes looked awful and overdone…..
She hired three interior designers for one of the NY apartments. She didn't do this herself.
@@sandykay2311 oh, thanks!! I was agonising over it. Maybe a sign of the times she lived in. But I find Lee Radzwill more to my taste, even if a bit overdone, as the period allowed.
She didn’t design anything. She was the client.
The "Swans" are fascinating people that I only just learned about from the new show... Babe Paley especially. :)
Me too!! I can’t get enough of the series and Babe is my Favorite!!!❤️
@amywilkins543 read if you haven't "The Swans of 5th Avenue " by Melanie Benjamin...it's very good.
My exact thoughts!! Babe and Lee stand out so much to me
Hmm - needed better coordination between the images and the narration. There is a verbal reference to the Paley's famous chandelier (the one with a clock) but it is illustrated with a photo of an ordinary chandelier. A discussion of Mrs. Paley's decor and paintings is illustrated with a photo of a red room with a giant portrait of Truman Capote - clearly a picture from Capote's own apartment at the UN Plaza, not a Paley residence.
There are photos in the video which I recognize to be genuine images from Mrs. Paley's homes, but errors like the two I list above make me wonder if the video as a whole can be trusted.
Fair comment 👍
agreed. great photos, but continuity is a bit scarce and it seems to have doubled back on itself at one point. nonetheless... better than I could have done.
It almost seems like it was written by AI
@@barbaramoore5193 I do think this is AI.
Both of them being cigarette smokers there homes must have reeked with all that fabric.
My thought too. 😝
Great class !
I love all of their homes, but the apartment in New York with the beautiful curtains on the walls is priceless!! I have never seen that before and didn’t even know it was a thing!!!❤❤❤
Socialite Life was a unique class in time, it's elegance & etiquette were lovely but none were happy & in love, a rich man/women's game of daily gossip but never true love and happiness, their ignored children suffered most, had 2b a stressful way of living just keeping up materialistically, correction; staying up. Still a very Interesting watch and read especially during my yrs 60/70s but I wldnt change my life for that if cld i love my comfortable easy life surrounded in love. Easy today to Monday Night quarterbacks still i appreciate & thanks you for this awesome video 🫶
820 Fifth Avenue is NOT a Park Avenue apartment. It would be on Fifth Avenue (duh) overlooking Central Park. Park Avenue is several blocks away.
Came here to say the same thing. Maybe the narrator should stick to what they know, or properly research things before making a video.
LL
@@yvonneplant9434 What does LL mean?
What a fabulous and elegant time the 50's, early 60's were, especially in NYC!
Great video. Nice job!
Glad you liked it!
The chronology seems off here. Narrator talks about the St Regis apartment as if it existed alongside the Fifth Ave one. No, they moved from the St Regis to Fifth Ave. Also makes we wonder if they had two houses on Long Island and two homes in the Carribean, or like the NYC apartments, one was older and the other one newer.
Classy and elegant lady ! Father was neurologist Dr Cushing who discussed Cushings disease ! Sad she smoked so much. It was en vogue back then
Yay stuff!🥳
The narrator claims that the interiors showed exquisite taste, but to me it looks like a busy pastiche you could barely move around in. Apparently, the Paleys were not comfortable in these houses, as they couldn't stay put in any one of them, and went out to eat instead of having their "friends" over. All that space, all that opulence, and the Paley's didn't even have sex for over a decade, (he cheated on her constantly and held her in disdain), and alienated their children. This does not sound like success to me.
She gave him the entrance into society which Jews could not access. He needed her more than she needed him. He was desperate to break into WASP circles
Guess your not a girls girl Linda...it was the times. It was even in a different Era.
You guys are so meow cat mean. She made people with a nod yes. If Babe wanted it so did everyone else. The original influencer. Every one has their ideas of success. No one in this thread has ever been more elegant, or well educated,well mannered, or follow thorugh. She was cultured, and well liked. No ones marriage was perfect back then. She head herself to a standard of perfection not many people could do. Before you criticize her, maybe get to know the time she lived in and what she influenced.
Babe was a collector of everything. Antiques or not, it was sort of closed in. Perhaps her homes should have had more square footage to properly fit all of her furniture because, her places were plentiful and a bit cluttered!
Maybe that was wealth during that time. I loved her Jamaican home with the pool but evan, it appeared to have many items. Then again; there was great seating for all of.her guest!
It interesting what we find tasteful now as opposed to back then.
Yes that glamorous lifestyle.. she had it all...where is she now but lying on a cold slab....and the world goes on
Are you sure? We all thought she was still alive. Thanks.
Is anyone else DISTURBED by those rooms with all the FABRIC covering every INCH of wall space ???????? It's So BUSY . UGH
she covered it to hide what was original on the walls
Was the fashion.
It's insanely over the top . @@luga718
She was a heavy smoker, I bet those expensive homes smelled like an ashtray!
When u said she like her sheets ironed twice All I had were flashbacks to a cleaning client I used to have that liked for me to iron his sheets.
Have you ever ironed a fitted sheet 😩
She paid a professional decorator to come up with what to 21st century taste appears to be a cluttered clashing maximalist bric- a -brac packed design pastiche. Perhaps her "exquisite taste" looks better on the radio.
Her house in Jamaica was bought for Ralph Lauren.
...& you can't take it with you
when you die.
...& she was HOLLOW inside
lonely & unhappy
...& she was living for everyone
elses judements on her.
What a selfish suffocated life ...
tons of acquaintances -
no real true friends
her children just had
& shuffled off to nannies
& boarding schools
always chasing money
& a husband always sleeping around on you - no matter how
perfect she was.
WHAT A WASTE OF A LIFE.
If you want to read about a shallow and wasted existence...
Read about Wallis Simpson and her husband Edward.
Pathetic is a good and apt description.
she wasnt born with Mortimer in her name, lol.
Money doesn’t buy you class
She did not need to buy it. She had it inherently
She was a Cushing... the Physician that discovered Cushing disease...her father. Babe was monied and from very prominent family from birth.
You can't buy class. Either you have it or you don't, despite how much money you have. You can learn proper etiquette, how to dress, etc. Elegance is also learned and here is where money matters. People with money don't always have taste. People with taste don't always have money.
Mondo Beyondo
I fail to see ANY significant contribution she made to humanity. She was not known as a philanthropist. With all her money, social power and influence she did NOTHING for anybody who was struggling, living on the margins of society. Her alleged "accomplishments" were being a pampered socialite, clotheshorse, interior decorator and going to parties. She was emotionally broken and spent her entire life miserable. Married to a sex-a-holic philanderer who repeatedly humiliated her with his flagrant adultery. Bill Paley was an EROTIC VAGRANT. Her tragic friendship with Truman Capote was the ultimate beytrayal be her closest friend and confidant and for THAT I do have genuine empathy and compassion for her.
I am watching HULU Feud, Capote and the Swans and it is FASCINATING I highly recommend it if you are interested by the 1960s Manhanttan social scene - the backstabbing, treachery and ruthlessness of high society awash with glitter, glamor and allure. Spellinding series!
Sweetie - I want to be your friend. I agree wholeheartedly with your statement here. I get so frustrated reading the comments of naive people who think these folks are better, more special than themselves. It may be an apocryphal story about the conversation between Hemingway and F. Scott Fitzgerald where Fitzgerald supposedly said "you know, the rich are different from you and me" and Hemingway said, "yes, they have more money." These people are not special - they just have more money. Even when I was in my teens, I used to be aghast that Vogue magazine would act like wearing great clothes was some sort of achievement. it isn't. Swans? IMO more like turkeys!
I am watching it also but cannot access the 4th episode. Hulu throws me to another show.
Simply lovely but as well to do as they were they weren’t particularly happy. To get so angry at Truman Capote Book “Answered Prayers” shows even Capote was miserable having so much money when he came from such humble beginnings. I came from some privilege having nannies and such but truly believe more of a less cluttered life. Surroundings and the mind. Contemporary is more my style. Less is More. Cheers 🎉
What a mess. She was not born a Mortimer. The pic of 820 Fifth was totally wrong. The next paragraph cited Park Avenue. Just awful. A waste.
Too much of everything.
Bahamas nit Caribbean common error it’s westernmost Atlantic eighty miles from palm beach
Her interiors are too packed and stuffy for my liking. They are of their time and look so old-fashioned and staid now.
People should really read about Babe Paley her real life. From when she was a Cushing her maiden name. So much venom about a women who died long ago.
You get what you pay for. 😅
Beaux arts mispronounced! Not Bo ar; bozar!
*Promo sm*
"Boasting", " idillyc", " sprawling" repeated over and over again. Sounds like a realtor's advertisement...😂
There are so many mistakes in this video it is hard to watch
And she died of common lung cancer and all that 'stuff and things".... it was all for show.
No, Answered Prayers is NOT the book truman screwed the Paley's!
And all these women had philandering husbands, lived lonely existences, were alcoholic and died tragically.
Guess you had to see them in person.... pretty overdone.
You need to develop a more extensive vocabulary of superlatives beyond idyllic, impeccable, timeless, etc. BTW, smoking killed her.
Anyone can be thin if you smoke like a chimney stack. Did any of them hold the hand of a dying friend or help out at a soup kitchen. Thimk not. Superficial material world
Such hateful people, really.
I take issue with your saying Babe Paley "owned" houses. Like all golddiggers, she "owned" nothing.
She wasn't a golddigger,she came from money herself, Cushing disease is actually named after her dad and even Introduced get husband to the high society life and he paid her back with infidelity
She came from a very wealthy family in NY
Pretty lame video
A BAS LE CAPITALISME!!!🚩