ERRATA: Double checking the specs it looks like this does NOT have Wifi 6 just AC wifi. Also seeing a lot of comments about lossless support: First - there are settings for lossless passthrough on the device but even with those settings enabled it doesn't work. Trust me I tested it thoroughly. Second: Dolby ATMOS / Dolby Digital works fine through streaming apps but those are NOT the lossless formats I'm referring to.
Sure the Google TV Streamer only has AC (wifi 5) but we get 350 Mb/s using an AX (wifi 6) router. Wifi 6 or 7 (be) would be better... but AC is fast enough The only thing that might improve on wifi 6 or 7 is lag (28 ms)/jitter (8 ms). The computer has an ethernet connection and has a lag of only 8~12 ms and jitter ~1 ms N.B. You tend to notice lag when you're playing games or video conferencing. 🙂
Amazing how the Nvidia Shield was designed so well - 10 years ago , that it outperforms many of the new processors and features of these newer devices. I wish Nvidia would release a new shield, with a more modern AI enabled processor and built-in matter hub support. With their reputation for building future proof devices, an update like this (at the right price) would cement it as the king of the streaming and entertainment hubs for most users.
stay tuned. Rumor is that after the new switch launches nvidia will use the same chip for a new switch if a new one is coming at all so I'd at least wait until then.
@@TechedOff Nvidia is too rich making AI chips to care about a nitch consumer streaming option, and even if they made a 2nd version, they'd just dumb it down and remove all the interest stuff since 99% of consumers just have a crappy soundbar hooked up to their crappy LCD TV.
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES I have two of them, including the original 2015 one, and it's still one of the most responsive streaming options out there - not even remotely slow. If yours is slowing down you likely ran out of internal space, or got a virus, if that's a thing on Google TV, and I'm not sure it is. Just factory reset it.
Prioritize clear and concise information delivery over reading a bullet list, a bunch of "I feel..." statements and a mountain of vaporwave aesthetic B-roll.
@@BruhHowDidIGetHere Well I got the regular one for $19.00 from walmart I didn't have much expectations for it anyways but it beats the firestick for sure. I only use 4 apps on my device and I am extremely happy with it.
Definitely still waiting for a box to rival the Shield with more up to date hardware, support for all the newer codects plus full Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support.
I got tired of waiting and just picked up an Apple TV already. Soooooooooooooooo much better than the Shield. Certain apps have become unusable on the Shield nowadays with all the bugs and playback issues.
@@joseherrera8489in what way is the Apple TV better than the Shield ? Does it have sideloading ? Does it have external USB ports for expandable storage and adding accessories like a mouse or keyboard ? Does it even have a backlit remote ? What about Plex support ? The answer to all of the above is a big fat NO
To sum up most of these comments: "Onn 4K Pro better!" - better value to be sure, but also has cons and won't be supported as long "Keeping my Shield!" - good, but its 2x the price and 5 yrs old now for those just now buying But to be fair the Streamer should've had a better chip and Wifi 6 for the price, then the lack of an HDMI cable could be forgiven
From reading the other posts here, the majority either want value for money and so prefer the Onn 4k pro box or a premium box like the Shield with useful features and spend the extra money. Google missed both markets with this device.
Google could have made a basic model to compete with the Onn 4k Pro priced around $50. Then a Google TV Streamer Pro to compete with the Shield TV Pro and priced it between $100-$150
Just give me a new shield with next gen ai upscaling. The shield pro does so well with 1080p content i cant use anything else. Not to mention all the codecs it supports. Next year after switch drops hopefully we get an upgrade. With their focus on ai theyre likely cant be arsed to make a new one.
$100 for a lackluster processor & you don't even bother putting an HDMI cable (that is REQUIRED for usage) in the box? Seriously? Devices that cost $20 have included cables, what are you thinking?
The 10 year old Nvidia Shield having literally a few times faster per core and overall performance to this is just sad. For doubling the price over the last Chromecast, they still used that Fire Stick/Chromecast tier SoC. Even the first Tensor would have been so much better. And no AI upscaling for all their AI talk, which the 5 year old Shield Pro has.
Interesting review, im trying to justify buying this. I have onn 4k box and the pro and google 4k. I was hoping for a big leap. Im very happy with the onn 4k pro performance.
Is there an actual screensaver with these? Like one that would prevent burn in on an OLED? Pretty sure it shows the weather and time in a static position when the screensaver turns on, right?
Very useful review. The main use I have for an "streaming" box is to play ripped full-bandwidth 4k UHD Dolby Vision movies via Plex. For me, only the Nvidia Shield Pro (2019) can do this. Maybe one of the Apple TV streaming boxes can do it as well. The 4K Dolby Vision of the "Back to the Future" trilogy bandwidth can exceed 100mbps. My TCL TV Roku app can't play this. The previous Google Chromecast 4K dongle is also unable to play these videos. After wasting time and money I finally bought a Nvidia Shield Pro when it went on sale for $160. Now I'm satisfied. For now. According to Lon's review, Plex is the only streaming video app that can make a watchlist that includes Netflix.
@@andreaciccarello Is it faster for Plex? I only use my Nvidia Shield Pro with Plex right now. I don't do any gaming. I might use it for some streaming video services like Hulu or Apple TV+ or Amazon Prime Video. I only use these services when they have new seasons of some of their series. Thanks.
@@Nedski42YT in my experience is way smoother in any possible way. Plus on Apple TV you have automatic frame rate switching on every app unlike Google tv and Android tv's devices that still today only support this on limited selection of apps.
@@andreaciccarello But do you use the Apple TV with Plex to play 4K Blu-Ray Dolby Vision rips? The Plex app on the Nvidia Shield Pro does do frame rate switching. I have a Dolby Vision TV but I don't have any advanced audio equipment so I don't have any experience with that aspect. I can't imagine what "smoother" means. Have you directly compared the latest Apple TV box with the Nvidia Shield Pro? Lon's review of each box didn't seem to pick an overwhelming winner. Each box had its pro and cons. Happy Streaming!
I have ordered one of these, only because I had £60 in google store credit that needed to be used. I stream mainly from my local Plex server, and having gigabit ethernet would be a useful addition.
Thanks for the enthusiast comment, i was hopping it could be, but good to know its not. Btw Lon, what its in your opnion the best for enthusiasts atm? Dune HD Pro One 8K Plus or Zidoo Z9X 8K or R_volution PlayerOne 8K?
Are you able to install that other launcher that you demoed from a different video? I forget what it's called but it basically lets you customize the home screen and remove all the ads and change the background and tons of other customizations.
would that be Project Ivy? predict that Google will soon block, at least their ad blocking abilities. probably let customization slide. Project Ivy one word, = projectivy in App store. covered in lots of RUclips videos, two versions a free and a paid deluxe. After $ and much time spent . . . Google will block.
Any recommendations for someone that just wants to use an iptv player to stream live sports? I'd also watch netflix/prime but live sports streams would be my most demanding task and I want to make sure I have a device that wouldn't be the reason for any buffering/lag issues.
Hey Lon; do you have a HDMI 2.1a - capable TV with QMS support in your stable? I only have HDMI 2.1 ports (non "a") , so if you can, can you test the Seamless framerate matching? THX
the enthusiast box you want is a ugoos sk1 does 8k and all hdr and audio formats and does colorspaces etc and auto frame and res switching or upscaling sdr to hdr or dv
Something I've found with 8bitdo controllers, you have to periodically check for firmware updates. And there is a dedicated dongle if you have a USB hub, or otherwise have a difficult connection. It requires charging, and updating as well.
The previous model Android TV streamer had the option to provide Ethernet via the USB cable that also powers it. If I were to swap out with this new device would it use ethernet over the USB cable? I don't want to run another cable through my wall up to the TV.
Is there any word of a refresh to the Nvidia Shield TV by Nvidia? The software and Bluetooth on it have gotten more glitchy over the years on my 2019 especially with the triangular shaped remote and the plex client. My Plex client often crashes when scrubbing back on the video timeline despite reinstalling it multiple times. I don't use the Plex server. My back end is a Synology running Plex Pass. The remote loses connectivity and I have to delete the data and cache on the Bluetooth app to get it working again using my tv original remote via CEC.
The choice is between this and Apple 4K! I personally do not own any Apple products so everything at home is Google but I have heard that Apple is better so the question is if you dare to buy Apple 4K or should I take Google if you only want to use these streaming services?
My preference is the Apple TV 4k. It handles 24p switching better than any other device on the market. I use it for all of my streaming service watching.
Biggest issue is lack of codecs. If it can't do stuff like Dolby TrueHD, then what's the point? An Apple TV is a much superior product compared to this - and with a lot less ads, and Apple supports their stuff forever.
The fact that no one, not even Nvidia, has created a device with Android TV that can replace the Shield makes it clear how the market for these things is not very large
What I miss on the remote is a source button. Unless you want to use the flexible button for that. I want to use it for home panel. I originally had some problem setting that up till i found that there were some updates I still had to do.
Why would they make a bigger device and discontinue the smaller more compact perfectly capable option? Googles strategy seems more about making new skus to sell than actually improving hardware.
I love the filmmaker mode on my LG C2, but hate the TV dashboard and lack of apps I want. I contacted Google Support and asked if the 2024 Streamer has filmmaker mode. The rep said yes. Roku 2024's Streamer does not mention filmmaker mode in their literature.
Despite the price ($159 AUD) the Google TV Streamer 4K is a good replacement for the Chromecast 4K which is very slow to respond and locks up from time to time. The extra storage 32 GB v's 4 GB means you now have a bit of room to install a wider range of apps. 4 GB storage is just too small. You end up having to delete apps so you can try new ones: With each version of Android the space left for apps shrinks further. Other improvements: Android v14 (v's V12) Gigabit ethernet The Google Streamer is not expensive enough to agonise over the price. The future: The Google streamer will probably get a price drop down to $99 AUD in the near future. The Google Streamer will probably also get a performance enhancement (faster CPU?)... but that could be further down the track. We've been putting up with poor performance for years (voice recognition doesn't work properly)... so we didn't want to wait for a price drop. 🙂
The Chromecast has a small hole for at the top of the remote close to your hand) for the microphone. This may explain the poor voice recognition i.e. More prone to stuff dropping in. The new Google TV Streamer has a slighly larger rectangular hole in the bottom of the remote (at the far end). Maybe this is why the voice recognition works better on the Google Streamer? i.e. Stuff can't drop in unless you turn the remote over. 🙂
To be honest I bought this for our Living Room but I'm not too big on the fact that they are using a Two Year Old Processor from the Amazon Firestick 4K. Google really needs to get it together and use more Premium internals in their stuff especially at this Price point. I plan on keeping my Onn 4K Pro Streaming Box for the Upstairs TV and I'll also just keep the Chromecast With Google TV 4K in our Dining Room I don't think it's worth Upgrading all of our TV's to this not at this Price point.
I just bought it earlier today and I'm pissed that lossless audio(TrueHD/DTS-HD) isn't supported. My old shield can do this just fine, so why did google cheap out?
All these companies cheap out in some way when it comes to these devices. Nvidia went all in back in 2015 but haven't released a new model since 2019. Appears they have no interest in doing so.
I don't agree with the price but the streamer does work smoothly as I turn my Smart TV into a dumb TV since it's built in Google TV is a joke. So far Atmos has been working flawlessly.
I wish Nvidia would do a Shield refresh. It really shouldn't be all that difficult for some other Android equivalent to come in and match an outdated device like the Shield. If anyone could've done it, Google could have.
@@LonSeidman I’ll love to see a video on this like the one where you compared the nvidia shield to the Apple TV 4K and your Avr showing pass through vs MultiPCM on your avr thanks
Not impressed with Google TV. Just bought an expensive Sony TV with Google TV built-in and thought I wouldn't need to keep my 5 year old Roku hooked up to it anymore. However, many apps on the Play store say not compatible with my device, so I still have to use the old Roku for 1 or 2 apps I rely on.
There are some RUclips channels that are un 24 frames a second. I found frame rates of 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60. I thought about Google TV, but haven't had a good reason to use one.
The Apple TV is FAR superior for the price you’re paying for this thing, better software, better UI, BETTER REMOTE, and way better hardware quality and they won’t be discontinuing the device and acting like it dosnt exist for 5 years like they did with chromecast. You can airplay from PC and your android phone and NO you don’t need any other Apple devices to get a good experience with it and NO you don’t need any other Apple iPhone to set them up AND if you want to you can stream those bluray and 4k rips with the right software from your pc or Mac.
Watching the review I just ended up questioning myself why I was looking at Android TV boxes considering how limited they are and how much stuff I do not like that there's loads of like Ads and the multitude of features that are useless to me like AI and the Matter thing, Google Home, etc. And for the performance for that $99 price it just feels like a ripoff. I'll just stick to hooking up a PC to my TV. Though I may need to upgrade since my PC only has HDMI 1.4 and can do 4k30 at best which feels weirdly sluggish since its not 60fps, unless DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 works properly would give me 4k60.
UK users beware, it does not support BBC iPlayer or All4 apps (at the time of writing this anyway). This makes it effectively useless for the majority of UK users. Typical Google.
FREAKING lovin it ..pre-ordered month ago few of them in Hazel color 2 of them arrived & one gonna by Monday for my 4k/Projector...is very slick & powerful , GREAT upgrade from my almost 4 years old Chromecast TV dongles i had🥰🔥👍👌 if u see little things here & there, this & that , is NEW device Google is very GOOD updating thire devices down the road every few weeks , not worry about that at all , but The Streamer is super🔥 F** that rip off APPLE brand, if u wanna pay that much get NVIDIA Shield much better Quality
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ERRATA: Double checking the specs it looks like this does NOT have Wifi 6 just AC wifi. Also seeing a lot of comments about lossless support: First - there are settings for lossless passthrough on the device but even with those settings enabled it doesn't work. Trust me I tested it thoroughly. Second: Dolby ATMOS / Dolby Digital works fine through streaming apps but those are NOT the lossless formats I'm referring to.
Oh wow that's fail at that price point
@@rogershark9223 fail lol AC wifi is enough unless you got 5gig fiber lol
Sure the Google TV Streamer only has AC (wifi 5) but we get 350 Mb/s using an AX (wifi 6) router.
Wifi 6 or 7 (be) would be better... but AC is fast enough
The only thing that might improve on wifi 6 or 7 is lag (28 ms)/jitter (8 ms).
The computer has an ethernet connection and has a lag of only 8~12 ms and jitter ~1 ms
N.B. You tend to notice lag when you're playing games or video conferencing.
🙂
Enjoyed your review and straightforward verdict on the Google TV streamer. Keep up the excellent work Lon 👍
No Wi-Fi 6/6e at this point in almost 2025!?
Amazing how the Nvidia Shield was designed so well - 10 years ago , that it outperforms many of the new processors and features of these newer devices.
I wish Nvidia would release a new shield, with a more modern AI enabled processor and built-in matter hub support.
With their reputation for building future proof devices, an update like this (at the right price) would cement it as the king of the streaming and entertainment hubs for most users.
stay tuned. Rumor is that after the new switch launches nvidia will use the same chip for a new switch if a new one is coming at all so I'd at least wait until then.
@@TechedOff Nvidia is too rich making AI chips to care about a nitch consumer streaming option, and even if they made a 2nd version, they'd just dumb it down and remove all the interest stuff since 99% of consumers just have a crappy soundbar hooked up to their crappy LCD TV.
I'd love more RAM on the Shield. I do notice some niggles on mine every now and then. And 16 GB internal storage was always kind of a joke.
Mine slowed down to the point it wasn't even worth keeping
@@TELEVISIONARCHIVES I have two of them, including the original 2015 one, and it's still one of the most responsive streaming options out there - not even remotely slow. If yours is slowing down you likely ran out of internal space, or got a virus, if that's a thing on Google TV, and I'm not sure it is. Just factory reset it.
How's it possible for this channel to have such big 2000's vibes being in 2024
Prioritize clear and concise information delivery over reading a bullet list, a bunch of "I feel..." statements and a mountain of vaporwave aesthetic B-roll.
@@logikgr i meant the aestethic
Just waiting for a new Nvidea Shield to come along. It's still the GOAT.
Is there any news about this? I don't see anything at the moment.
@@des.. People expecting it to come out with the Switch 2 SOC, after the Switch 2 comes out.
@@KarlDag yep exactly right
@@TechedOff Not exactly right. There is no new Shield coming and Nvidia has never confirmed this made-up story.
@@enough-kq2yk reading comprehension, with on it
Sticking with my Nvidia Shield.
15:47 Shield has 16x 3D performance, embarrassing for the Google box.
The Onn 4k Pro is way better and it's half the price. Don't waste your money. Join team Onn.
I agree. I tried both of them and they Onn is much better
I got the onn box that cost $19 from WalMart. I am not going back😂😂😂
Agreed it's way overpriced. Most people don't need google home nest crap. They just want a streaming device.
I got an Onn a few years ago and it became a laggy mess after a while, Is it better now?
@@BruhHowDidIGetHere Well I got the regular one for $19.00 from walmart I didn't have much expectations for it anyways but it beats the firestick for sure. I only use 4 apps on my device and I am extremely happy with it.
None of the reviews talk about the most important thing: video quality and how well it plays diferent video formats.
Too much money for underwhelming performance. The Onn 4K Pro is a better buy.
There should be an Nvidia Shield competitor already.
Got a few onn 4k pros here for cheap and been really happy and even replaced my apple 4k devices with them.
Yep I have a onn 4k pro and it is super good
Definitely still waiting for a box to rival the Shield with more up to date hardware, support for all the newer codects plus full Dolby Vision and HDR10+ support.
I got tired of waiting and just picked up an Apple TV already. Soooooooooooooooo much better than the Shield. Certain apps have become unusable on the Shield nowadays with all the bugs and playback issues.
@@joseherrera8489in what way is the Apple TV better than the Shield ? Does it have sideloading ? Does it have external USB ports for expandable storage and adding accessories like a mouse or keyboard ? Does it even have a backlit remote ? What about Plex support ? The answer to all of the above is a big fat NO
Google missed it.
$100 Google streaming box is too expensive for only WiFi 5 and not WiFi 6.
02:12
To sum up most of these comments:
"Onn 4K Pro better!" - better value to be sure, but also has cons and won't be supported as long
"Keeping my Shield!" - good, but its 2x the price and 5 yrs old now for those just now buying
But to be fair the Streamer should've had a better chip and Wifi 6 for the price, then the lack of an HDMI cable could be forgiven
& how many will fumble (x2) around to dig up an old HDMI 1 or 2 cable further gimping lame? Dig down.
People always wants the newest stuff/ability , mostly not knowing what it does or if they need it in the first place.
Been watching reviews on devices like this all day and this one is actually so informative. Great stuff, thanks!
Thanks for putting this together, Lon!
From reading the other posts here, the majority either want value for money and so prefer the Onn 4k pro box or a premium box like the Shield with useful features and spend the extra money. Google missed both markets with this device.
Google could have made a basic model to compete with the Onn 4k Pro priced around $50. Then a Google TV Streamer Pro to compete with the Shield TV Pro and priced it between $100-$150
Skipping this. The features arent worth the price hike.
Hey Lom, hows it compare to the Onn TV 4K pro, worth the extra money...?
Just give me a new shield with next gen ai upscaling. The shield pro does so well with 1080p content i cant use anything else. Not to mention all the codecs it supports. Next year after switch drops hopefully we get an upgrade. With their focus on ai theyre likely cant be arsed to make a new one.
$100 for a lackluster processor & you don't even bother putting an HDMI cable (that is REQUIRED for usage) in the box? Seriously? Devices that cost $20 have included cables, what are you thinking?
The 10 year old Nvidia Shield having literally a few times faster per core and overall performance to this is just sad. For doubling the price over the last Chromecast, they still used that Fire Stick/Chromecast tier SoC. Even the first Tensor would have been so much better. And no AI upscaling for all their AI talk, which the 5 year old Shield Pro has.
Interesting review, im trying to justify buying this. I have onn 4k box and the pro and google 4k. I was hoping for a big leap. Im very happy with the onn 4k pro performance.
The support for multi user dashbord is one of my favorite features on Google tv.
HOW is double the value than Chromecast with Google TV 4k at double the price?
Is there an actual screensaver with these? Like one that would prevent burn in on an OLED? Pretty sure it shows the weather and time in a static position when the screensaver turns on, right?
Too bad they stopped making the Chromecast with Google TV. Great for traveling although this device isn’t too big either.
Very useful review. The main use I have for an "streaming" box is to play ripped full-bandwidth 4k UHD Dolby Vision movies via Plex. For me, only the Nvidia Shield Pro (2019) can do this. Maybe one of the Apple TV streaming boxes can do it as well. The 4K Dolby Vision of the "Back to the Future" trilogy bandwidth can exceed 100mbps. My TCL TV Roku app can't play this. The previous Google Chromecast 4K dongle is also unable to play these videos. After wasting time and money I finally bought a Nvidia Shield Pro when it went on sale for $160. Now I'm satisfied. For now.
According to Lon's review, Plex is the only streaming video app that can make a watchlist that includes Netflix.
Nothing comes close to Nvidia Shield Pro's performance. Even years later.
@@thyreason Apple TV 4K is way faster
@@andreaciccarello Is it faster for Plex? I only use my Nvidia Shield Pro with Plex right now. I don't do any gaming. I might use it for some streaming video services like Hulu or Apple TV+ or Amazon Prime Video. I only use these services when they have new seasons of some of their series. Thanks.
@@Nedski42YT in my experience is way smoother in any possible way. Plus on Apple TV you have automatic frame rate switching on every app unlike Google tv and Android tv's devices that still today only support this on limited selection of apps.
@@andreaciccarello But do you use the Apple TV with Plex to play 4K Blu-Ray Dolby Vision rips? The Plex app on the Nvidia Shield Pro does do frame rate switching. I have a Dolby Vision TV but I don't have any advanced audio equipment so I don't have any experience with that aspect. I can't imagine what "smoother" means. Have you directly compared the latest Apple TV box with the Nvidia Shield Pro? Lon's review of each box didn't seem to pick an overwhelming winner. Each box had its pro and cons. Happy Streaming!
Can it play 4K REMUX on Plex natively without transcoding?
Can you do a vs with this and the One 4K Pro?
I have ordered one of these, only because I had £60 in google store credit that needed to be used. I stream mainly from my local Plex server, and having gigabit ethernet would be a useful addition.
Thanks for the enthusiast comment, i was hopping it could be, but good to know its not. Btw Lon, what its in your opnion the best for enthusiasts atm? Dune HD Pro One 8K Plus or Zidoo Z9X 8K or R_volution PlayerOne 8K?
Are you able to install that other launcher that you demoed from a different video? I forget what it's called but it basically lets you customize the home screen and remove all the ads and change the background and tons of other customizations.
would that be Project Ivy? predict that Google will soon block, at least their ad blocking abilities. probably let customization slide. Project Ivy one word, = projectivy in App store. covered in lots of RUclips videos, two versions a free and a paid deluxe. After $ and much time spent . . . Google will block.
What speed does the USB-C port support? Is it usb 2.0 like the previous Google TV or is it USB 3.0?
I was watching DS9 recently. Good times.
Has picture or audio quality improved over chromecast 4k ?
Any recommendations for someone that just wants to use an iptv player to stream live sports? I'd also watch netflix/prime but live sports streams would be my most demanding task and I want to make sure I have a device that wouldn't be the reason for any buffering/lag issues.
Keep up the great work
Can this read external hard drives larger than 2TB?
Hey Lon; do you have a HDMI 2.1a - capable TV with QMS support in your stable? I only have HDMI 2.1 ports (non "a") , so if you can, can you test the Seamless framerate matching? THX
Fire stick 4k and cube would be great if there wsnt so much advertising
the enthusiast box you want is a ugoos sk1 does 8k and all hdr and audio formats and does colorspaces etc and auto frame and res switching or upscaling sdr to hdr or dv
Not even if you long press the ok button in the apps give you the option to choose movies from the app you're using?
Something I've found with 8bitdo controllers, you have to periodically check for firmware updates. And there is a dedicated dongle if you have a USB hub, or otherwise have a difficult connection. It requires charging, and updating as well.
There is a way to set up the Home Screen of Google TV to be more simplified. It doesn’t eliminate the ads, but seems to reduce the clutter
The previous model Android TV streamer had the option to provide Ethernet via the USB cable that also powers it. If I were to swap out with this new device would it use ethernet over the USB cable? I don't want to run another cable through my wall up to the TV.
tivo 4k. its like really cheap and it works great. dunno about bougie capabilities, like HDR, lossless audio etc, but for the price its nifty.
The spec sheet says it's only wifi 5? Does it have WiFi 6?
You mention it does not support audio passthrough, but it seem you show it doing just that to your receiver?
LOSSLESS passthrough. As mentioned ATMOS/Dolby Vision from streaming services is fine.
Which is better this or Apple TV?
Great review Lon. I was hooping this would bea a SHIELD TV Pro (2019) replacement for Plex playback. It's obviously not that.
Does it support main screen rendering in 4k? I remember that it could not do that previously.
What an ugly and uninspired device. Google really does the bare minimum these days. I'll stick with my OG Nvidia Shield.
A square box might look better.
Exfat, 32 gb, 4gb ram pretty inspired.Mediatek soc very inspired, much better drivers for hw suport than the buggy amlogic.
Is there any word of a refresh to the Nvidia Shield TV by Nvidia? The software and Bluetooth on it have gotten more glitchy over the years on my 2019 especially with the triangular shaped remote and the plex client. My Plex client often crashes when scrubbing back on the video timeline despite reinstalling it multiple times. I don't use the Plex server. My back end is a Synology running Plex Pass. The remote loses connectivity and I have to delete the data and cache on the Bluetooth app to get it working again using my tv original remote via CEC.
There is no refresh for the Shield. That is a dream.
Note for UK users. This does not have apps for BBC iPlayer or Channel 4 on demand
I'll stick with the 4K ONN Pro box with Projectivy Launcher, it's just as usable as my Shield and my Apple TV.
When the 4k ONN came out I bought two of them but wasn't able to load Projectivy Launcher on it, I am assuming that it can be done now?
@@Viper1171you can, keep trying.
Does not do Dolby True HD passthrough
@@Viper1171 I did it, no problem, months ago.
@@WellFedProductions That's what the Apple TV and Shield are for.
The choice is between this and Apple 4K! I personally do not own any Apple products so everything at home is Google but I have heard that Apple is better so the question is if you dare to buy Apple 4K or should I take Google if you only want to use these streaming services?
My preference is the Apple TV 4k. It handles 24p switching better than any other device on the market. I use it for all of my streaming service watching.
Wish they had one with real power to replace the shield
Biggest issue is lack of codecs. If it can't do stuff like Dolby TrueHD, then what's the point? An Apple TV is a much superior product compared to this - and with a lot less ads, and Apple supports their stuff forever.
Meh not in the apple Ecosystem and don't want to start...
@@primeI'm not in the Apple ecosystem either, but I dropped my Shield TV for the Apple TV 4k.
@@rodmunch69
I am not in the Apple Ecosystem plus don't like the closed TVOS with lack of casting support.
The fact that no one, not even Nvidia, has created a device with Android TV that can replace the Shield makes it clear how the market for these things is not very large
Will It work with other brands name cameras that work with Google home other than googles nest cameras ?
yes
There should be an “app only” mode in settings that will take out the advertising? I gave this on my Sony TV.
Is it possible to view downloaded RUclips videos on this device when there is no internet?
Can this streamer’s remote change my tv input (TCL Roku TV) to Antenna and then change those Antenna channels up/down???
No Dolby TrueHD support? No thanks. I'll stick with my Shield from nearly a decade ago I guess.
I recommend projectivity launcher for it to remove all the ads and make it way more customizable. It replaces your home screen. Lon did a video on it.
What I miss on the remote is a source button. Unless you want to use the flexible button for that. I want to use it for home panel. I originally had some problem setting that up till i found that there were some updates I still had to do.
Why would they make a bigger device and discontinue the smaller more compact perfectly capable option? Googles strategy seems more about making new skus to sell than actually improving hardware.
How about their strategy is to make more money by screwing the consumers?
A friend of mine bought one of these and is able to select Dolby TrueHD for audio output. Is that not lossless?
@@carlkitchen it is
No "Live" menu item on my Google TV Streamer.
The "Live" option seems to be unavailable in Australia.
:-)
I love the filmmaker mode on my LG C2, but hate the TV dashboard and lack of apps I want. I contacted Google Support and asked if the 2024 Streamer has filmmaker mode. The rep said yes. Roku 2024's Streamer does not mention filmmaker mode in their literature.
is there a guest account
Did you test the thread border router functionality?
My only matter device didn't work with it.
@@LonSeidman That's the arre (née TUO) smart button I presume? Those have been finicky for me.
@@solomonhilliard5357 Yeah can't seem to get it to work properly
Despite the price ($159 AUD) the Google TV Streamer 4K is a good replacement for the Chromecast 4K which is very slow to respond and locks up from time to time.
The extra storage 32 GB v's 4 GB means you now have a bit of room to install a wider range of apps.
4 GB storage is just too small. You end up having to delete apps so you can try new ones:
With each version of Android the space left for apps shrinks further.
Other improvements:
Android v14 (v's V12)
Gigabit ethernet
The Google Streamer is not expensive enough to agonise over the price.
The future:
The Google streamer will probably get a price drop down to $99 AUD in the near future.
The Google Streamer will probably also get a performance enhancement (faster CPU?)... but that could be further down the track.
We've been putting up with poor performance for years (voice recognition doesn't work properly)... so we didn't want to wait for a price drop.
🙂
The Chromecast has a small hole for at the top of the remote close to your hand) for the microphone. This may explain the poor voice recognition i.e. More prone to stuff dropping in.
The new Google TV Streamer has a slighly larger rectangular hole in the bottom of the remote (at the far end).
Maybe this is why the voice recognition works better on the Google Streamer? i.e. Stuff can't drop in unless you turn the remote over.
🙂
google for sure released this JUST for their black friday bundles
To be honest I bought this for our Living Room but I'm not too big on the fact that they are using a Two Year Old Processor from the Amazon Firestick 4K. Google really needs to get it together and use more Premium internals in their stuff especially at this Price point. I plan on keeping my Onn 4K Pro Streaming Box for the Upstairs TV and I'll also just keep the Chromecast With Google TV 4K in our Dining Room I don't think it's worth Upgrading all of our TV's to this not at this Price point.
What is 24p frame rate and why does it matter?
Lon.tv/24p
Lon - a USB hub (with power passthrough) won't help with that controller lag. Remote gaming generally sucks over cable Internet.
I just bought it earlier today and I'm pissed that lossless audio(TrueHD/DTS-HD) isn't supported.
My old shield can do this just fine, so why did google cheap out?
All these companies cheap out in some way when it comes to these devices. Nvidia went all in back in 2015 but haven't released a new model since 2019. Appears they have no interest in doing so.
If I'm going to be paying over $100 for that little bitty streamer box it better do all that movie theater stuff.lol
I don't agree with the price but the streamer does work smoothly as I turn my Smart TV into a dumb TV since it's built in Google TV is a joke. So far Atmos has been working flawlessly.
I wish Nvidia would do a Shield refresh. It really shouldn't be all that difficult for some other Android equivalent to come in and match an outdated device like the Shield. If anyone could've done it, Google could have.
At that price they should at least include an HDMI cable.
that would cost Google small potatoes while they rake dollars w data collection & customized ads.
There is dolby TrueHD & DTS MA just check the settings not sure why my comment was removed showing this?
Your comment wasn't removed. Those settings are in the control panel but the device does not pass them through.
@@LonSeidman I’ll love to see a video on this like the one where you compared the nvidia shield to the Apple TV 4K and your Avr showing pass through vs MultiPCM on your avr thanks
Are you sure about wifi 6?
Oops looks like it's not Wifi 6 I'll post an errata.
I see Google still has not fixed the missing movie art in the purchased library
What exactly do you mean by 24p ?
"24p" refers video format that operates at 24 frames per second
www.missingremote.com/blog/2010/11/24p-what-you-should-know
Not impressed with Google TV. Just bought an expensive Sony TV with Google TV built-in and thought I wouldn't need to keep my 5 year old Roku hooked up to it anymore. However, many apps on the Play store say not compatible with my device, so I still have to use the old Roku for 1 or 2 apps I rely on.
Please do. Gaming test
Does anyone have an issue with their Onn 4K, that when it turns on its just snow?? I have to turn it off and back on again to get it to work.
There are some RUclips channels that are un 24 frames a second. I found frame rates of 24, 25, 30, 50 and 60.
I thought about Google TV, but haven't had a good reason to use one.
The Apple TV is FAR superior for the price you’re paying for this thing, better software, better UI, BETTER REMOTE, and way better hardware quality and they won’t be discontinuing the device and acting like it dosnt exist for 5 years like they did with chromecast. You can airplay from PC and your android phone and NO you don’t need any other Apple devices to get a good experience with it and NO you don’t need any other Apple iPhone to set them up AND if you want to you can stream those bluray and 4k rips with the right software from your pc or Mac.
I have heard it is wifi 5.
Noted see the pinned comment
Watching the review I just ended up questioning myself why I was looking at Android TV boxes considering how limited they are and how much stuff I do not like that there's loads of like Ads and the multitude of features that are useless to me like AI and the Matter thing, Google Home, etc. And for the performance for that $99 price it just feels like a ripoff.
I'll just stick to hooking up a PC to my TV. Though I may need to upgrade since my PC only has HDMI 1.4 and can do 4k30 at best which feels weirdly sluggish since its not 60fps, unless DP 1.2 to HDMI 2.0 works properly would give me 4k60.
CAN YOU INSTALL A VPN ON IT?
Rather use a pc with remote control than using any streaming box
Shield is the only worthy streaming device
Ok so it has Google Home, BUT can it control locally, if the Internet goes down??? Max hub can not!!!
Only Apple's HomeKit (and something like home assistant) works offline
Uggghh. I'm trying to excise Google from everything I use so this isn't very appealing to me.
When you start a review by saying it’s not bad Ha, Ha, HA… the new ONN is half the price.
in typical google fashion they discontinued the Chromecast for this piece of crap
UK users beware, it does not support BBC iPlayer or All4 apps (at the time of writing this anyway). This makes it effectively useless for the majority of UK users. Typical Google.
There should be an Nvidia shield Lite to eat the competition and establish the minimum quality we deserve
Nvidia please come out with a refresh 🙏
FREAKING lovin it ..pre-ordered month ago few of them in Hazel color 2 of them arrived & one gonna by Monday for my 4k/Projector...is very slick & powerful , GREAT upgrade from my almost 4 years old Chromecast TV dongles i had🥰🔥👍👌
if u see little things here & there, this & that , is NEW device Google is very GOOD updating thire devices down the road every few weeks , not worry about that at all , but The Streamer is super🔥 F** that rip off APPLE brand, if u wanna pay that much get NVIDIA Shield much better Quality
Wifi 5 not 6. Big difference.