Dual Intel Xeon, 48Gb BEAST for under $700! (With Benchmarks)
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- It took me ages but I finally finished this dual Intel Xeon, 48 Gb beast for under $700.
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The two happiest days of one's life... the day you get your dual cpu system and the day you sell that system.
Haha!! I guess that's an exciting circle of life for a PC.
I don’t know I nearly cried when I sold mine, (was noticeably faster, 2 e5- 2670) and it was 2016 then. I did regret not doing some things differently, like motherboard choice. but its all behind me now I have a single 14C xeon cpu now.
It's expensive. And it's something almost nobody want.
FACT. I had a dual xeon 2689w system with 64gb ram, much faster than this one as it scored about 2000 in cinebench (employed as a 3d animator) and a simple 1st or 2nd gen ryzen 7 cpu is far better. similar multi core score and MUCH higher single core. zero reason to get old xeons the second the ryzen cpu's came out.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff where you able to get the dual xeon system to go into a sleep state? I have S5520hc with dual xeon and the dam thing wont idle. in one month it raised my electric bill $150 :/
$150 for a GTX 1060, those were the days my friend... 😭
The same thing I was thinking 😭😭😭
i bought 1070 in august last year for ~200, so happy
@Will I paid $85 to get a used 750 ti 2gb vram until I could get my hands on a 3060 for $550 😑 I remember being reluctant to switch to pc, when you could find 2060s in the $200 price range and cheap second hand deals, then when I finally decide to, prices are inflated and dictated by ethereum profitability on eBay and nothing is in stock.
Lmao was thinking the same thing
My friend's dad gave me his old gtx 960 around January, February this year. I sold it and bought a gtx 980 for 280 euro. The 980 wasn't the best deal of my life, but I either suck with that 960, or I buy a better card.
When you play with wires and it suddenly "Comes on!".
*Turn Power off before dicking with power and power supplies*
"Doesn't have USB3" - For about $10 you can surely add it via PCI-e?
You can, and that was what I did in a similar setup.
Ohh that I did, plus USB type C. Card was about $15
isn't that x58? i thought even with a usb 3 pcie the slot doesn't have that bandwidth? correct me if im wrong
You can but there are a few caveats. This board only does PCI Express 2.0, and some of the slots are 1.0. When I put a USB 3.0 x1 card in my machine I couldn't get full speed because I didn't have enough PCI Express lanes at fast enough speed to hit full throttle. I mean, yes, its better than 2.0 by a long shot but its still bottle necked a little.
Yep, you can do that indeed. Lots of USB 3 ports in fact! And you can add USB C while you're at it.
As a former HP field engineer, there was a 3rd option for cooling, a closed loop liquid kit. And because I worked on these 800 all the time, I chose a Z600. More reliable, smaller and lighter.
Ray Mond - Please, please, please could you help me out? I have a HP Z840 I am trying to upgrade and could really do with your technical knowledge. Thank you in advance.
Question is this worth doing now?? And trying to game on it lol??
@@kcmullins6179 It will still perform almost the same as you saw in the video.
will that cooler work on a z600?
@@alfredoojeda7977 Sice it's a smaller case, i don't think it Will. IT barely fits to the Z800
The Quadro catching fire is a lesson about not messing around with PCs while the PSU is turned on.
Yes.
If you're doing serious repair you can really only debug with the power supply turned on. This is a rare case of failure that should not happen under normal circumstances, even if you plug and unplug everything.
@@lost4468yt In this case you really should know what you are doing before you mess around with things you don't completely understand.
He loses some serious credibility for that honestly.
Trye
These looks more badass then modern gaming pcs I love these industrial design
I prefer the black side panels over the silver ones. Makes it look badass.
@@Chris-yy7qc The Z840 is completely blacked out.
You like blacked?
@@glhfgamerz8467 owo bbc chan
Never seen a workstation or server from the inside?
So you did it for the RAM.
Like, opening more than 20 tabs of chrome RAM.
wow buddy, 3 is the best you can get alright. no need to force doing your pc something that is impossible
@@justlixian293 heck I can’t even open 0.5 of a chrome tab..
Press F for respect to the Nvidia Quadro, atleast it did something important before this happened
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Meh. The GPU is worth around 20 Bucks. Its just an Quadro 4000. Not to be confused with the K4000.
I was gonna say that Gpu is woah outdated. You can get one on eBay for around $60 all day.
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I really enjoyed your more relaxed tone in this video. I been binging on your channel all day and this was one of the easiest videos to listen to.
God, I loved my first dual xeon setup. The stock coolers made it sound like a 747 taking off though
😂💀
Unless you’re running jobs concurrently through VMs (or otherwise), dual Xenons will usually look a little underwhelming compared to single CPU home systems. The benchmarking software isn’t really optimised to measure the systems’ true capabilities.
Yes and you will often run into issues if you try just running Windows on the system. Instead throw something like Proxmox on there and make a few linux VMs.
need to run Mac OS and windows (in a VM at the same time) so yeah I think its a good investment.
Not only that, but a dual cpu system is bad for gaming. While the avg fps is good, the 1% and .1% lows are awful. This is a thing on all dual cpu system
@@o-hogameplay185 search for NUMA and threadripper and gaming. You will understand what is the cause, and how can it be fixed / worked around.
what about emulation?
Yes! I love using these old servers/workstations!
What I love most about these servers...PCIe lanes. Like seriously, I can put three nvme drives in raid0 and a gpu and just go crazy. Also, seriously, USB3 is easy, PCIe.
I picked up a couple of these on the cheap and they're solid workstations. I'm using one for photogrammetry and 3d modeling and the other as an ESXi server.
I have same model maxed out as well. it's a nice workstation and provides enough horse power to build a lot of docker instances. You've also hit the problem of buying older hardware square on the head. Newer systems can be a lot faster and better.
Always like seeing HP Z workstation content and Xeon content! I've done so many custom transplanted z400 Xeon builds and also a few Z420 and z620 builds. Actually z620 setup serves as my test bench with an E5-1620. Do a video on trying to flip this system, then a follow-up using it's newer brother the Z820 :) dual Xeon E5-2667v2 CPUs would make for an interesting comparison to the upcoming 16 core Ryzen
I wish I still had it, I would have loved to upgrade it. I am thinking of doing another one of these videos at some point.
Hi, I have to setup an economic PC for 3 CAD. I thinked to use HP Z420 QC with the E5-1620v2 with 32 GB of RAM, Nvidia Quadro K2000 and an SSD. All for about 450$. What do you think about performance? Is It still good or i have to move to a ryzen 3 config?
Fabio Di Nicolantonio | Ortona if you can at all go for something faster than E5-1620v2, it's the slowest CPU for that socket, quad 2.8GHz with no turbo. I have this as a visual studio workstation and it's slow for that, infuriatingly so.
@@fabiodinicolantonioortona1407 I would say upgrade your CPU to the E5-2680 (V1 variant not V2), it gives you 8 cores, 16 threads, 2.7ghz base and 3.5ghz boost. Its offically not supported by HP, however many have had no issues using that that processor with the HP z420, also people have used Registered ECC without issues either on that board. I hope this helps :)
@@fabiodinicolantonioortona1407 I did one with a Z440 and that has an e5-1650 v3 32gb ram and a GTX 1080 all for less than $700 after tax and shipping. I felt like I made super saavy move because at the time server chips were pretty cheap and I figured I'd just pick up a new CPU if I needed to upgrade, but there's demand for these high clocked high core count CPUs now so an upgrade isn't as cheap as I'd once thought it would be.
Every video i watch about dual CPU systems talks me out of building a dual CPU system...
If you want to use one as a Windows desktop? Yeah I generally wouldn't bother. But if you want to use one on Linux, or especially if you want to use one as a server with virtualization? Then absolutely go with a dual CPU system. Dual CPU systems just work when you use them for what they are intended for. You can pick up a Dell R710 or R720 server on ebay for cheap these days, dual CPU systems with plenty of registered memory. Throw Proxmox or ESXi on there and chuck on a bunch of Linux VMs and self host a ton of fun things like Plex, NextCloud, BitWarden, etc etc.
With all those PCIe slots, there's no excuse for not adding a cheap USB3 card. Could even get one of the USB 3.1 cards that use a 2x connector as you've got plenty of 4x or 8x slots that otherwise are not useful for non sever stuff.
That's a good point. The nice thing about this server is that it is very expandable.
And, they dime for dozen .
8).
I do have a USB3 card in mine. Interestingly it struggles to run multiple 2.5 HDDs off of a single card (not all of them power up). (And yes, there is power supplied by a SATA power adapter to the card.) Under windows 10 I get the occasional IO hang for 30s or so, and tried removing the USB3 card (same behaviour) and haven't got round to plugging it back in.
I thought the exact same thing, easy fix!
also get a PCIE to NVME M.2 drive and a SATA 3 expansion card and Hot plug SSD bay and run the on board SATA in raid
Now that it is harder to get parts this idea is sounding really good.
I had a X5670 and it worked really well for games and stuff especially since I overclocked it to 4ghz. Those old xeons are great, nice video man
I still have a Dual X5680 / 48GB Dell T7500 Workstation. It's really fast upgraded with SATA III controller and SSD. Probably not worth doing anymore though.
really nice to see a build similar to one i did. I used a supermicro X8D board with dual X5660 xeons and 128GB of ram with raid 1 300GB SSDs and raid 1 2TBs and a RX 580 in a corsair case
Gaming benchmark please
@@a8gaming951 for a system i had 4 years ago...... i dont have the same setup on that system anymore.
I freaking LOVE how the 2 hyper 212s look side by side ! Awesome stuff man :D
Btw : Dunno if u forgot or just didn't update the gleam winner page ... What happened to the ssd giveaway xP
Oh crap, I did realise the page could be updated. I announced that there was a winner on twitter and I sent the SSD about two weeks ago. I'm very sorry, I will go update the gleem page.
Those two coolers look so awesome right? It looks all super powerful. :D
You can usually check electrolytic caps with an ESR meter without having to demount them.
I built one of these, for a decent bit less than you paid, way back at the end of 2015. I've since moved to a Z820, and am already looking to upgrade again. The *biggest* problem with the Z800 is the 2TB limit of the onboard SAS/SATA controllers, which was the primary reason I upgraded away from the Z800...
Id say the biggest limitation is running into programs that require AVX to function.
you kinda look like the guy I sold one of those cpu fans collars to! lol
Love bringing old systems back to life, great job!
kind of he almost basicly kill the damn thing at the first attemp :P
This is not such old system.
Capacitors in a power supply stay charged for months even years, and can easily deliver a fatal shock.
Don't do what this guy did without proper protection, he doesn't even realize how incredibly close to disaster he got.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 youre 100% right but for some reason I died laughing when I read your comment
Months? Years? I agree he was careless but no, sorry, that's bullshit. We'd be using them instead of batteries if that were true. It *is* true they can stay dangerous for longer than most people would expect. But not weeks or even days. Furthermore, modern safety standards require bleeder resistors that remove the energy quickly. That's why you don't die when you touch the prongs of your power brick while stuffing it in your bag. The amount of energy stored in the capacitors of a computer power supply is also unlikely to be large enough to kill you, even if it would do some pretty nasty damage. While it's very wise to be careful around mains capacitors (short them with the tip of your screwdriver before touching), this is really more a worry with things like vintage audio equipment which usually has big bulk capacitor banks and was built before those safety standards existed, or devices like plasma TVs or CRTs which use thousands of volts.
What you said is technically true, but anything built in the last 75 years by any kind of decent company will have discharge resistors across the caps to bleed them off quickly and safely. They will remain charged for only a second or two. The discharge resistor would have to have failed open to keep the cap charged, and even then, it will certainly not be for months or years. It will be a few minutes at most. We also don't know if he waited or not, with video editing and such. If you are not sure, just short out the cap and you know it's discharged. I will tell you what often lacks the discharge resistors these days. Cheap knockoff stuff from China.
"months" are me eyes burnt from reading this
Absolutely, please add a disclaimer in the video, this is terribly dangerous. I am use to work on audio and guitar amplifiers, you have to discharge de capacitors before manipulating any power supply like this. The moment he touched the PCB with his bare hands made me terribly uncomfortable
Did the Z420 in 11/2016 with 6 core Xeon, 32GB RAM, 1 TB SSD for $730. Been great ever since. Another bargain is the Dell Power Edge R620's.
If you do some digging you can find some custom BIOS's that will allow some a small amount of overclocking, just make sure you have a revision 3 motherboard.
I'll totally incorporate the "it's the final wipe-down" singing part to my pc building process...
yet, it was dusty inside on the final reveal :(
As a help desk technician, HP has wonderful customer service in my experience so don't feel embarrassed. When I spoke to them I felt like I was talking to one of my veteran coworkers
That's a pretty awesome build, and was seriously considering doing some upgrading to my machine while watching this. However, my current machine with its Asus P6X58-E WS motherboard, Xeon W3690 overclocked at 4.2ghz, 48gb of 1600mhz non-ECC RAM, and RTX 2080 pushes the envelope a little more than I would get going to a dual X series processor setup like this, even if I used X5690s.
Curiosity has the better of me though: I wonder how that PC would perform with dual Xeon X5687 processors... They're 4 core processors instead of 6, but they run at a stock speed of 3.6ghz, and they're cheap, I think I paid $25 for one just recently. With a locked multiplier there's not much overclocking potential, however you might be able to squeeze a little more out of it, perhaps up to 3.8 or 3.9ghz.
I have two HP Z800s and a Z820 and absolutely love them. It's amazing how much RAM and how many CPU cores you can get for the price when buying these machines refurbished. My Z820 I bought for less than $1,000 US and it has 64 GBs of RAM and 12 cores. It came with a decent HDD and graphics card, but I've upgraded those since. I don't game. I do a lot of photography, some video editing, and do a lot with virtual machines. They work out extremely well for my needs. I keep wondering: "How many more years am I going to get out of this amazing machine?" The other thing I did was added a 4-port Ethernet add-on card (giving me 6 ports total). It was spendy (almost $200), but it has been well worth it.
Great video Dawid! Got the performance and the looks, great build ;D
And the final wipedown lol
Haha!! Had to clean that shit up. :P
Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoyed it.
nice video. I guess the cooler should rotate 90 degrees to have the best airflow like the stock coolers were attached.
Dawid, your production quality has improved so, so much! It's been awesome to see you evolve from a single celled amoeba RUclipsr to whatever multicellular organism you are today. 😄
"as far as cpu coolers go im not going to use those... danty loser coolers" haha! i love you dawid
i love how dawid's voice went from like a gentle kid that knows about computer to a computer karen in 2 years 🤣
that PC case looks sick
I want one
Smell of "Hackintosh"
I inherited 3 mac pro 5,1's from work a few years ago, I was looking at upgrading one of them to the 12 core from the 6 core and the sled alone costs more than a complete working Z800 :) Lol Apple...
I own 2x Z820 and 2x Z600. They are great machines for workstation use, for rendering and 3d work, or for video encoding because of the high core counts. The only down side is the amount of power these things pull. It's massive. Great video. Cool I am seeing people picking these machines up now. Especially because if you look around, you can even find Z800/Z820 for around the $400 to $500 mark in the dual processor configuration.
What's your Z600 specs ?
The 1366 bracket legs are tapped M3. All you need is a set of 10mm long brass hex stand-offs to screw the feet of the coolers into.
This dropped into my recommended today. The production quality, loser suckface insults, and your beard has grown tremendously in the last 2 years. Keep up the good work.
THE FINAL WIPE DOOOOWWWN
HP Z800 is a workstation, not a server.
Same thing
@@Phunker1 nope, it's completely different.
@@YR7A So fill me in on your logic.
@@Phunker1 server processes requests, and uploads them to the internet. while a workstation does video editing, 3d shape rendering, and stuff like that.
@@YR7A And where do you think lies the difference in the technology that is used to complete these tasks?
I would totally rock this set-up
USB to slow. *It's a server. it has expansion slots. Get a usb card :)
I'm glad you called to ask them, its their responsibility to provide free support for their products and we should always expect them to provide reliable information to help us understand how to repair
Really awesome content. New place is coming along nicely.
Thank you. :D Now I just need to get rid of this PC somehow. :P
very nice build overall. I had a few of those but moved away from hp due to custom psu's, very finicky bios and stuff like that. nowadays its better if you build a ryzen or similar system in terms of performance. but these old wrks are ideal if you want to have something like storage or vm server with lots of ram for cheap. keep up!!
Could've thrown a 2 X 5690 in there, but still no overclocking that chip.
You can overclock that chip, just not on a server motherboard. You can do so on a normal single socket x58 board, or an SR-2 if you can get your hands on it lol
I don’t think you can beat a entire build for the same price until the future
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To think the x series is old. The chassis was a stone, but loved the design. Ran a hundred or so for tests and the ease of pulling on a bench made my work easy.
Excellent thinking. But I noticed that the cpu fans you placed, are directed upwards. There is no ventilation upwards, the vents are backwards. You need to monitor the temp because of throttling.
I sold my dual Xeon 2687W precision workstation on ebay for around $550 with 64gb of ram and firepro gpu back in June. Performance wise, it was on par with a 2700x for most single threaded and FPS/gaming benchmarks while destroying it on multithreaded workloads, it did 2200 Cinebench R15 score. The only reason I sold was the power consumption, and how uncomfortably hot my room would get with it on. I don't really see the value in socket 1366 anymore Because 2011 & 2011-3 have come down in cost a lot while giving huge advantages in ipc and power consumption.
You could have run the appropriate sized tap through the mounting holes.
was thinking the same thing till I saw exactly how he was painting the side panels and at that point figured that it was amazing enough he knew how to operate a power tool let along have a tap and die set
@@mathewhoffer4541 True that ;)
Good job diagnosing the machine.
everytime i see dual xeon it remembers me to a week before i decided to host a server. i had this dual xeon system with 48gb i sold it for 50 bucks after months of advertising since no one wanted to have it lol. the regrets wen i wanted to buy a server back lol
"sacrificial GTX285" You can certainly tell this is from 2019. GTX 285 cards are getting over $100 on eBay right now
Though I really dig Xeon based systems and this one really does it for me, there's just something about recycling old server grade PCs that is soo cool... When you compare this type of setup to more modern setups and especially against Ryzen, it's hard to justify it for the price. At the time of this video though, Ryzen was definitely more expansive.
It's hard to justify the price itself though. Dual X5675 with 48GB of ram, was not worth anywhere close to $700 in 2019. I just checked and a similarly specced R710 have been selling for only £120 on ebay... Even in 2019 they were only ~£150, and even less in the US, this wasn't worth more than $200.
Look up "My 20 core/40 thread, 128gb ram "budget" (~$600) home server build" on reddit. Dude shows a build of dual 10 core E5-2660v2 CPUs with 128GB of memory for only $600. Much much better performance, much better power consumption, more RAM, and cheaper...
@@lost4468yt in the technology space, the price and performance ratio changes daily, with that said.. I wouldn't make the same comparison that I did a year ago. While I do think recycling/reusing is awesome, I couldn't justify going this old verse newer tech.
@@paulezk Yeah I agree with reusing old equipment. I think this is pretty much on the barrier though, as it was the generation after this that dramatically dropped power usage. Our R710 uses like 220W at idle, which is ridiculous.
But things like the E3/E5/etc, especially v2 ones, I think should be reused for a very very long time. They use much less idle power, and they're still more than powerful enough for most server applications. Because computational requirements have simple stopped increasing. I think that something like an E5 v2 or even v1 CPU will likely hold up well for at least the next decade, possibly even much longer.
@@lost4468yt you are right. I bought the same stuff in 2015 for the same amount of money. Z800 is getting very old now ( it is PCIe-2). I don't know why this guy was expecting something amazing. It is 2009 architecture. In 2019 is certainly not a bargain anymore. In 2021 it is not worth it. A 6 core amd ryzen 5 is way better than this and 3-4 times less power hungry. Even the z820 now is old. I am still keeping that beast for running old software because it has got 72gb ram, which is still a lot, but I will have to buy a new one some times in the future besides my personal PC. Besides, it runs very hot and noisy during the summer...
@@paulezk well for 200 dollars I got a CPU that has never bottlenecked by GTX 700 4GB and I got 24 GBs of cheap RAM for free and a whole ass computer it's a T7500 btw I consider it worth it for 250 dollars
i absolutely love the hp z600 and z800 series.. i had a z600 with 2 5675 chips and 36 gb ram. installed esxi and made a 4c 8 thread vm with a gpu and made my own geforce now and it worked perfectly. and i head headroom for running nas and other stuff on the left over specs
you called HP customer service asking how to diagnose and fix a defected psu (internal components) .... seriously !
Yes
Their service is shit.
next time you paint use a green scratch pad to clean and score the paint on the sides you can even use rubbing alcohol on it after to clean any oils and dust off it. then should be good to go! also love the vids man!
Wait... HOW did you accidentally set the gpu on fire? What did you do and why that happened
likely the poor choice of an open tower concept,,, there's a reason components are supposed to be enclosed. I couldn't believe he is using these on any build for some one else.
You literally have two signs on both cpu sockets telling what side your fans should be 😂 Instead doing that, you made them to take the hot air from your gpu, blowing that hot air tru cpu cooler into the ram, making hot air to stay in your case. I bet the temps are high inside that case as we know xeons love to keep you warm during winter.
I wish there was footage of the flaming graphics card.
Haha!! Same here, it was pretty crazy.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff wait so you gpu actually went up in flames? Is it possible for that to happen with your average daily driver kind of pc or basic gaming pc?
@The One I had a power supply explode. Sounded like a gunshot and the computer went out. Room stunk of electrolytics for over an hour.
@The One it was quite the event. All is fine though!
@@ProfessorFartsalot Ah shit, that makes me so afraid of buying cheapo PSU
Igniting a graphics card while dealing with other issues is so much something I would do. Hope you didn't stress out on yourself too badly.
Did you turn on hypertreading in the bios ? Because when i got mine hypertreading was turned off .
I built a Z800 with dual 5690s, 96 gigs of memory and a 1080 ti a couple of years ago. One of the funnest builds I've done and I'm still using it.
Main thing about putting one of these together is if you need copious amounts of memory but don't want to give up a kidney, this is definitely a viable route. Obviously, these CPUs are no longer dyno queens but they will still get the job done and game pretty good while they're at it.
Once you go Workstation... it's difficult to return to desktop rubbish :)
plus a shit load of Pcie lanes
I still use it as a daily. I have a hp workstation z640 with 2x E52699v4 (44 c/88 t) with 192 GB of RAM and 3 SSD in RAID 5. Lovely machine for Virtualization and complete silence.
Cool build. You could've gotten more bang for your dollar with a Z820 you already knew worked. But then, where's the fun in that, right?
this thing excels when you know how to program functions that can use up all cores at the same time (parallel procesing). i also got one + radeon RX580 (bought used separately)... and i bought a spare psu for it as well, just in case.
Couldnt you just add a pcie to usb 3.0 to have usb 3.0?
Haha!! Yeah, I really could have. It was just an observation after finishing the build.
@@DawidDoesTechStuff figured I would mention it. Sometimes people overlook things that would be obvious to them if they were watching someone else.
I added one to mine and it never really worked that well. Lots of debate online which card works well with.
Dual X5675 with 48GB of RAM? Not worth anywhere close to $700 in 2019. Try $200-250 at most...
Edit: look up "My 20 core/40 thread, 128gb ram "budget" (~$600) home server build" on reddit. Dude shows a build of dual 10 core E5-2660v2 CPUs with 128GB of memory for only $600. Much much better peformance, much better power consumption, more RAM, and cheaper...
I'd say a lot of these machines will come into their own when games get into more threads
All or a sudden..oh wow!!
and by that point the CPU will be to old and the best GPU you could put in it will also be to old
the game would need to be programed to make use of 2 cpu's if the computer has it.
@@skarloey2334 master slave
I built a dual CPU Opteron system with a total of 32 cores, 8 memory channels, and 256 GB of RAM for about $700 not counting graphics cards and storage. It performs slightly better than my Ryzen 2700x in tasks that can take full advantage of all 32 cores, and the CPUs run cooler than those Xeons.
"why isn't the screen turning on" - classic wife
Those electrolytic caps in the power supply is HUGE
I buy these running with window$ installed for $175. Yes, 48 gig ram, 2 TB hard drive. Yawn.
Where? Lol
yea please tell me where lol
Just someone wanting some attention otherwise he would sell us each one for 175. 😂😂🤣
@@certifiedgeek05 Silicon Salvage, dot com, ask for Dave.
Watching you jamming your fingers into that bare and open PSU genuinely scared the shit out our of me lol
"Ok, so we'll just have to take a quick moment to appreciate the fact that i'm a genius.." =)))))) EPIC
Cool! I love Xeon's but problem with socket 1366 is no SATA600 :) I just did a quick test on my E5 2690 V2 and I got 1423 in cinebench :)
Buy second hand Mac Pro. Buy RAM. Same, cheaper.
I would really like to get one of those for a video. :D
@@DawidDoesTechStuff It would be interesting to watch, hope you will. :D
I did that move to get my my Mac Pro ( 2008 3.1 octocore 3gh, 24 gb RAM in pristine condition) a few years ago ; 800 +150 bucks for more RAM) and its a beast, smooth machine even for 2019 standards. That should cost you way much less, nowadays. Mac Pros are cheap
Good video, btw!
Mac Pro is not as upgradeable
@@miguimau chiniese Kllisre X99 V102 mATX mobo + Xeon E5-1650v3 6c/12t 3.5/3.8GHz + 4x8GB DDR4-2400 + BeQuite Shadow Rock TF2 CPU cooler = 300USD
that mobo is USB3, SATA3, NVME M2 and NVME SSD capable, as a current tech one ;)
Seems like you overspent quite a bit on this. I'm using a Dell T7500 w/ 2X Xeon X5675's, 24GB RAM, and also added in USB 3 and Wifi through PCIe. With all of that (excluding my RX 480) I'm at basically under $300 for a system that performs similarly as a workstation, as a Ryzen 7 1700. Although you have the same CPU's so I'm preaching to the choir lol. But I guess maybe there is less availability in your area, so that could be a big part too.
you've got me with that Europe quote.. :D
6:40 Welcome to the future, past Dawid...
I bought one of these new and I still have it
I bought a Z800 at a Computer Works Goodwill w/ Dual x5660s instead of the x5675s you went with. I also upgraded the ram from the 8gb of ecc ram it came with to 20gb of non-ecc memory. The total from goodwill was $50!!! I currently use it as my main rig, but hopefully I'll be able to sell it soon as it is just disgusting on power usage haha
power consumption??? ;)
Hate to break it to you, but my 2010 mac pro 2x xeon 5670 scored 1419 on Cinebench r15. Literally ONE POINT higher than your system on CPU. When I got it last year I paid 500 bucks for it. They are now selling for a lot higher on eBay than they were a year ago. My system came with 32gb of ram meaning it was only running in Dual Channel mode and also my cpu's are a shade slower clocked at 2.93ghz. Difference may be better thermal design with the mac pro? Excellent video either way, I love the quirkiness of dual socket systems as well as really any enterprise / pro grade hardware.
I still run a z600 as my main work computer.
Hi, what processors do you use?
@@nikolamijic Dual X5670
and did you installed them into the z600 ?
@@nikolamijic yep.
@@Phunker1 can we connect? nikolamijic AT gmail
I tried building something like this and it was the most frightening pc building experience i ever had, took weeks and the 3 days after it worked a cap blew on the motherboard.
So i threw it out the door.
How on earth do you manage to set fire to a graphics card by wiggling around a power connector on the motherboard? 🤔🤯
GPUs can get up to 75w from the pcie slot directly
@@The123tactics Any modern psu has over current/shortcut protection and fuses as do graphics cards.. I've build hundreds of systems never seen something actually go up in smoke. 🤔
@@FullFledged2010 that's a quadro 4000 it was older
can confirm I have seen a nunber of components go up in smoke on server platforms... They lack a lot of the standard protections you might find in consumer hardware from my experiences. (components killed - Delta High RPM Fan, Vega64, Dell PowerEdge T620 Motherboard, and WD Gold HDD) not sure how I killed the fan.... the fan cables had litterally melted and the fan let out magic blue smoke... mind boggles. Vega 64 smoldered to a husk by me running -12V through the card, T620 motherboard died from idk just heard a pop one day and the board never turned on again smelt like sonething fried but never could find visible damage. On consumer grade boards never killed a single thing. Servers are unforgiving and you do anything incorrectly no matter how minor something will die
each x5670 eats around 170watts+!!
so you burn around 340 watts every hour only for CPUS!
with MOBO, disks and video card it would be around 500watt!
now, if you use your PC around 8 hours on average (most games do even more than that, weekends more and normal days less),
then math is simple:
500 * 8 * 30 = 120KW/h per month
now, in california, each KW/h costs about 20cents.
120 x 0.2$ = 24$ monthly just for random usage.
i would say its like 30$ or even more!
so in one year, you would burn 350-400$ on electric bill...
old PCs and especially server hardware are very power hungry indeed...
not really worth it unless you have solar panels on roof and practicly free electricity
48GB? My PS5 can do that.
What kind of games do you have in your PS5? :P
@@DawidDoesTechStuff The Last of Us 2, GTA VI, Death Stranding, Cyberpunk 2077, Ghost of Tsushima and many more..
@@DragoonDark97 I am legitimately excited for Cyberpunk 2077.
@@DragoonDark97 I love how he didn't even bite on your obvious trolling. Just replied politely hahahaha
i think u can have better gaming experience with 2 X5687, they are 4C/8T CPUs at 3.73Ghz.
8C/16T at 3.73Ghz will do better at gaming then 12C/24T at 3.33Ghz.
There is also the X5690 that has 6C/12T at 3.6Ghz, but for gaming i would go for more clock speed because this server cant OC.