Ben out of all the cars you have driven what is the best overall ? I would love to know mate Speed Handling comfort and simply overall money for what you get Please let us poor people know
I think the real heroes are the owners who let these two machines get a good workout for our enjoyment. Well done those men. I think they need to go one better and let you exercise them again in July. Think of the bragging rights the owner of the winner will have. Greetings from Prague, CZ.
@@BenCollinsDrives Is that Shmee's Senna? Also, huge props for filming and editing the laps more or less shot-for-shot the same way they always did for Top Gear! Edit; just looked and for some reason I had in mind that Shmee's Senna was purple, but it's actually blue.
Yes, against the road legal Senna LM, and there are at least a few of those, which have at least 100 or more hp more than a normal Senna...would be a good match but the SF90XX will win for sure....
No said anything about it having to be road legal, this is a race between 2 bespoke car brands that both have a full on racing division, just like the F1 cars are not road legal, so if Ferrari sends the SF90xx then Mclaren can raise the bar with the Solus GT, but just like Ben said real life conditions is going to be a problem
Seriously, Ben, this content is top-notch! Thanks a lot! Many RUclipsrs can showcase impressive cars, but few can actually drive them, and even fewer can do both simultaneously. Honestly, you’re knowledgeable, talented, perhaps a tad timid, and true to yourself, which all contribute to your videos standing out. You talk just enough to provide context for your car-focused videos, but you never make yourself the center of attention. I believe this is what many of us desire from RUclips these days - more people like you and fewer of those who talk a lot and build their content around themselves because they have nothing substantial to contribute...
The Stig taking over as the new car presenter for Jeremy, Richard and James is refreshing and perfect. Ben you are as good at presenting as you are at driving.
Ben you really are a talented man, not just as a driver but your commentory is on point with tons of emotion and how you feel driving it, a true passion.....
For the SF90, the eManettino needs to be on Qualifying mode to have full power. I am not sure, but I see green color on the dash left side at 15:10, which means the car is on Hybrid mode and not Qualifying mode.
Green line means it's recharging the batteries. Ferrari's hybrid brain is very advanced. It knows when to deploy and when to recharge so obviously as the car started to turn in at highest speed when the front motor isn't needed it started to recharge the battery a bit
@@lovelehstuff The green line at the top left of the dash means it is on Hybrid mode (the text next to it is not visible due to the camera's poor dynamic range). I am not talking about the green bar at the bottom that fills and goes away, which is like you said is regen.
@@erraldstyler It is not necessarily about beating the Senna, it is about giving an accurate representation of the car's performance by having the car in max performance mode.
Really enjoying your content Ben, very suited to being a presenter and your insights into how these cars perform are fascinating. Always great to hear from someone who is well qualified to back up their opinions. All the best for ‘25 and beyond from the other side of the world here in little old NZ.
They have the Brazilian Flag McLaren Senna at the McLaren Technology Centre in Woking. I was there a few weeks ago to see it in person. Absolutely stunning. In my opinion though, the Lego McLaren Senna they also have there is the best spec. 😁👍
Really great video Ben! This comparison type of video format between different supercars/hypercars on track is very engaging to watch. Also the part where you use the data to show the different behaviour of the 2 cars is really interesting. It's like taking the old and traditional Topgear stop-watch lap time on another level. This format is something that I prefer compared to more traditional car reviews and it is also the one that highlights better your very good driving skills. Cheers from Italy 🇮🇹 👋
Being Brazilian I love the Senna name in a McLaren. What a car! Being a Top Gear fan especially Stig fan, loved to see this! Thank you for the pleasure of this Ben...
@@horsepower523get over yourself, the senna was designed function over form, to be the fastest road car to go around any track ever! And on many tracks the Senna has proven this. Plus beauty is in the eye of the beholder… you call it ugly, I call it beautiful!
Stig and top gear test track - the best combination. Nice to see you back there Ben. At the place you know every inch of tarmac. And the duel between two great cars
That was fascinating. Would love to see the Senna doing a proper dry lap. It may not be the prettiest but that's race car for you. The fact it has number plates is astonishing and great respect for the dark burgundy with gold accents which do a lot to lift the car. Once had a Favorit estate that colour!
Love to see you back at the test track, please do more of these. And please test every car there is here, you have the same but a more refreshing top gear vibe❤❤❤
Never understood how you guys can get a hold of million dollar cars with close to a thousand HP, but can't fricking find or wait for a day when the track is fully dry to test them out at their fully potential. Nice clip though
These raw shakedowns on track under tricky conditions let the true character of these engineering feats truly shine and is exactly what Top Gear was made for. Thank you for keeping it alive Ben
Well a fair comparison would be the base Senna vs the base Ferrari SF90, if you want the SF90 XX to go against the McLaren, it’s only fair to go against the Senna LM as they are both the second generation of their cars respectively.
The Greatest Stig as well as one of the greatest motorsports presenter, Sir Ben Collins. It's simply remarkable how sublimely and beautifully do you host a car show, like literally nobody else that I've seen in over two decades. Sure, Clarkson was hilarious, but yours is incisive, accurate and engaging like a surgeon's scalpel. Most British motorsport journalists are heavily biased towards British cars, but you are really objective. P.S. SF90 for me :)
Great show. Wanna see more car compehension on top gear track, thats basically the part i was watching them for as a kid ! so much nostalgy )! Really cant wait to see something like this again
Can't tell you how much I have missed super cars going round the Top Gear Track. In the US we just don't have any decent car shows. Please keep up the good work.
Fantastic comparison!! I was pretty sure I knew what the outcome would be, but this confirmed it! I would love to see the Senna go up against the SF90xx now!
@@BenCollinsDrives My gut felt that on a shorter track it would favor the Senna, but on a track with longer straights, it might favor the SF90. But, maybe now that isn't so clear to me
@@BenCollinsDrives I thought it would be a 3 to 4 seconds advantage for the Senna. I guess the conditions really helped the AWD SF90? 992 GT3 RS would be a great comparison. Could you also do a current hot-hatch lap time video vs's your Delta? :)
Please Ben, keep racing at the Top Gear track and create a new lap time leader board. We are all missing the classic Top Gear series. (2002 onwards) Always great videos and I'm really looking forward to 2025 videos.
With track conditions totally suited to the sf90, that was a mega lap in the senna. Your reaction to your first drive in the senna was bang on. That’s why it’s special.
This is why if i had the money i would stay away from ferrari they are just a name, they haven't produced fast cars for over 20 years in f1 and road cars and they never will because of their ego
@@GhostonRUclips201x I feel you underestimate the effect of the weight. The Sf90 is heavy compared to the Senna and it will not be able to corner to it's maximum when it's greasy. Braking will be effected too, probably more so than with the Senna.
It was very good to see you back home where you belonged. A great video both cars are awesome and if anyone of us had the money i bet we would have both. Thanks. May i take this time to wish you and your family a Happy Christmas & a very good New year.
Not surprised at all by the result, as the Senna is almost 500kg's lighter than the SF90 and we all know McLaren underrates their power figures, so you're looking at roughly 850hp vs 986hp, but 500kg less weight and a shit ton more downforce in the Senna's favour
No one knows the track, better than you, Ben.. Your technical ability, skill, driving the cars to absolute limit, provides a very accurate representation of the vehicles you’re testing. There’s no sugar coating with you, which we ALL appreciate. It’s fabulous when you test at Dunsfold, we really know what these cars can do when you’re at the wheel. 🙌
*There is no point spending £3 million on the F80 when Ferrari will launch a series production car that is faster than it in around 6 years. Like how the SF90 launched 6 after the Laferrari and is faster*
considering the senna is 2 years older than the ferrari, and without 4wd and hybrid, it's so impressive to see it so close! great video ben what a holiday treat
Would love to have more of an insight into the data and telemetry. Also how you use the data provided to then apply it to the car and track. Brilliant videos, thank you and keep up the great work!🙌🏽
@@BenCollinsDrivesDamn. I wanted to know the times. In an early episode of Top Gear Clarskon did a piece about modern cars vs old racers and an F1 car went around in 59 seconds on a damp track. Then he joked saying one day you’ll be able to buy a road car just as fast. I wonder if the McMurtry Fan Car can go round as fast as the Renault F1 car today.
@@BenCollinsDrives Oh ok, I understand ; ) But it's a shame, we would like to be able to compare with the old champions =) When will we have dry laps with the P1, the Laferrari ? Please ☺
Either way, 1.6 seconds is a big lead from the McLaren, which I think can only get bigger with a dry track, due to the Ferrari having the advantage of 4wd against the Senna’s 2nd… but I guess we will see. I personally think the senna is gonna be more than 2 seconds faster than the SF90 on a dry track.
@Pieces93 hush 🔔 end ...these are two different cars in two different categories and if you say no there the same then WTF is a SF90XX ?? It's a bloody track version of the SF90
Great Video Ben, that really shows there's more to it then just the final lap time. Cornering, aero handing and grip is what makes a great racking car ( don't forget also scaring the driver the whole time!).
@@sickjohnson that has to be the most ridiculous comment I've ever read lol 😆 😂 🤣 The senna is a track car ,SF90 road car ......SF90 XX is the equivalent of a senna numb nuts
The SF90 was released in 2019 and the Senna was released in 2017. The Senna still won by nearly 2 seconds despite being 2 years older. The newer 765 LT would be even quicker.
Ben, this is so awesome considering where you are and what you are driving...it's like pure magic! Another awesome video, would love to see how it would go on the hot + dry too. The owners of the cars are absolute legends for doing this!
Excellent take at the difference between mechanical grip and downforce through two completely different approaches. Really interesting and entertaining stuff from you, Mr. Collins! And the pleasure to be back to that Top Gear circuit, in the natural habitat of the Stig… Perfect. I wish you and your team the best for 2025
This was such a great H2H, especially as Ben is getting so much better as a Top Gear calibre presenter. I'm fine with the silent track-focused drives, perhaps there could have been post-drive commentary of how the cars handled in each corner/on each straight in voice-over added in post.
Needed some classical music or something for the in-car shots during the hot laps! Really though, so cool to see you back there, and with the classic camera angles. Brought back good memories
Great results considering the track conditions, race car vs road car is def. evident & your results show. can't wait for a dry track run & stretch the Senna's leg's Ben. Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year
What a kick ass video, proper proper driving & kits as always... So the model years vary slightly in terms of the control settings on the Senna, but in the drive mode settings, access the track mode menu, select it & once it's confirmed that you're within limits of being on track it will grant it & then you should have access to adjust or fully disable TC
Great video and lovely production too - keep it up Ben! I'm not taking the piss here - I feel like we need to do a track test of an American Bus vs an English Bus - Greyhound Lines vs an old double decker would be wonderful. The comic value would be superb...
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Ben out of all the cars you have driven what is the best overall ? I would love to know mate Speed Handling comfort and simply overall money for what you get Please let us poor people know
I'd like to see a comparison of the new Ferrari DC12, or 12Cilindri as they like to call it, to the outgoing 812 GTS.
If carly did a non subscription version for home user id get it
I think the real heroes are the owners who let these two machines get a good workout for our enjoyment. Well done those men. I think they need to go one better and let you exercise them again in July. Think of the bragging rights the owner of the winner will have. Greetings from Prague, CZ.
Couldn’t agree more - i’m eternally grateful
@@BenCollinsDrives Is that Shmee's Senna?
Also, huge props for filming and editing the laps more or less shot-for-shot the same way they always did for Top Gear!
Edit; just looked and for some reason I had in mind that Shmee's Senna was purple, but it's actually blue.
@@mrflippant Thats not Shmee's Senna, his was Cerulean Blue.
Great to see you back at the Top Gear test track hope you can do more track tests there we all miss super cars being tested there.
I'll be back ....!
@@BenCollinsDrives In a Jesko?
Yes i hope the same as this comment❤❤, love to see you back
@@BenCollinsDrives we’re all so familiar with it it’s great to see a car go round because we have so many reference points. 👍
@@BenCollinsDrives TERMINATOR 😅
For a man who was silent for so long on screen, you're amazingly accomplished at this talking lark Ben. Great video!
PS. My F8 tracking is off since you ragged it round Silverstone...
Some say... he's back in his natural environment. All we know is, he's driving two of the fastest cars in the world.
I think you mean 'fastest cars .... in the world.'
No. I think he means fastest cars in the world
F80 and W1
Once, not anymore
Did i read that in Clarkson's voice? we all did, i know i did :)
I think we need a rematch but with the SF90 XX
vs the Senna GTR
@ wait no. The senna gtr isn’t even road legal. It’s a full race car. The SF90xx is more of a rival the senna than the base sf90 imo
Yes, against the road legal Senna LM, and there are at least a few of those, which have at least 100 or more hp more than a normal Senna...would be a good match but the SF90XX will win for sure....
No said anything about it having to be road legal, this is a race between 2 bespoke car brands that both have a full on racing division, just like the F1 cars are not road legal, so if Ferrari sends the SF90xx then Mclaren can raise the bar with the Solus GT, but just like Ben said real life conditions is going to be a problem
@ the solid gt is a full on race car with slicks. There’s no way any road car will beat it.
Thanks for that oldschool video. It made quite a lot of good memories come back.
Wish all of you a very happy new year
Couldn't click fast enough. Happy New Year Ben and hope you have a great 2025!
Thank you and you!
Dunsfold and Ben Collins. YES! Hope the new year is a massive success for you, Ben.
Thank you and you - glad you liked it
Thanks Ben! A pleasure beating you in the drag race! 😝 I also appreciate the 550bhp advantage 🤣🤣
Really like the format here Ben. Not over edited, good pacing, and you in your original home turf. Really good stuff.
Seriously, Ben, this content is top-notch! Thanks a lot! Many RUclipsrs can showcase impressive cars, but few can actually drive them, and even fewer can do both simultaneously. Honestly, you’re knowledgeable, talented, perhaps a tad timid, and true to yourself, which all contribute to your videos standing out. You talk just enough to provide context for your car-focused videos, but you never make yourself the center of attention. I believe this is what many of us desire from RUclips these days - more people like you and fewer of those who talk a lot and build their content around themselves because they have nothing substantial to contribute...
Great point and I totally agree
This channel deserves to grow, and I am here for it! Best of luck for the new year and beyond, Ben! 👍
😬Thank you 💥
The Stig taking over as the new car presenter for Jeremy, Richard and James is refreshing and perfect. Ben you are as good at presenting as you are at driving.
Ben you really are a talented man, not just as a driver but your commentory is on point with tons of emotion and how you feel driving it, a true passion.....
For the SF90, the eManettino needs to be on Qualifying mode to have full power. I am not sure, but I see green color on the dash left side at 15:10, which means the car is on Hybrid mode and not Qualifying mode.
it won´t make up for the weight difference even if it made 2000hp then
I’m sure they would have had it set up for maximum performance.
Green line means it's recharging the batteries. Ferrari's hybrid brain is very advanced. It knows when to deploy and when to recharge so obviously as the car started to turn in at highest speed when the front motor isn't needed it started to recharge the battery a bit
@@lovelehstuff The green line at the top left of the dash means it is on Hybrid mode (the text next to it is not visible due to the camera's poor dynamic range). I am not talking about the green bar at the bottom that fills and goes away, which is like you said is regen.
@@erraldstyler It is not necessarily about beating the Senna, it is about giving an accurate representation of the car's performance by having the car in max performance mode.
This brings back good old memories. Love to see you enjoying yourself on this track again with 2 epic hyper cars. Happy New Year Ben
Top quality content. Thank you for sharing. Love the revisit of new cars at the Top Gear test track.
Amazing video Ben, video production on point. bringing back Top Gear vibes
Ben Collins back at Dunsfold. It's bitter sweet in many ways. Absolutely loving the direction your channel is taking Ben, keep it up!
Thank you i like this format too - maybe i need a commentator for the laps …!?!
Thanks for that, the perfect balance of info, talk, data and driving footage. 100 % perfect video. You are the man my man.
We need more comparisons like this please, so epic
Really enjoying your content Ben, very suited to being a presenter and your insights into how these cars perform are fascinating. Always great to hear from someone who is well qualified to back up their opinions.
All the best for ‘25 and beyond from the other side of the world here in little old NZ.
Love this! Would be awesome if you can be more at this track testing cars
Great comparison,great laps and most of all,a balanced insightful commentary! Thanks Ben🎉🎉
212k subs. The channel is coming alkng in leaps and bounds. Nice one and well deserved.
Outstanding and awesome content as always.Thanks for sharing and taking us along.
That might just be the best spec I've seen on the Senna. Looks incredible
They have the Brazilian Flag McLaren Senna at the McLaren Technology Centre in Woking. I was there a few weeks ago to see it in person. Absolutely stunning. In my opinion though, the Lego McLaren Senna they also have there is the best spec. 😁👍
Yeah I've seen that. Have to be honest this spec is the first time though I've yes, that looks bloody good
I Have to disagree, I’ve seen a Senna with a Marlboro livery before, although that may have been the Gtr version.
Great comparison and it's good to see you back at Dunsfold, Ben! :) My best season's greetings and happy new year!
Well I was just looking on my laptop when this came up - had to hook it up to the big screen for this one! Epic! Well done Ben. :)
Excellent video. Two ridiculously fast cars in the hands of the Stig!
Awesome video!!!! Love to see the old stomping ground again lol. Keep an eye out for more wild Stigs! I’d like to see 296 GTB vs 750S.
Please!!! I want to see those 2 have a head to head battle in preferably dry conditions
Really great video Ben! This comparison type of video format between different supercars/hypercars on track is very engaging to watch.
Also the part where you use the data to show the different behaviour of the 2 cars is really interesting. It's like taking the old and traditional Topgear stop-watch lap time on another level.
This format is something that I prefer compared to more traditional car reviews and it is also the one that highlights better your very good driving skills.
Cheers from Italy 🇮🇹 👋
Being Brazilian I love the Senna name in a McLaren. What a car! Being a Top Gear fan especially Stig fan, loved to see this! Thank you for the pleasure of this Ben...
Senna would be disgusted that such an ugly car is named after him.
@@horsepower523get over yourself, the senna was designed function over form, to be the fastest road car to go around any track ever! And on many tracks the Senna has proven this. Plus beauty is in the eye of the beholder… you call it ugly, I call it beautiful!
Stig and top gear test track - the best combination.
Nice to see you back there Ben. At the place you know every inch of tarmac. And the duel between two great cars
That was fascinating. Would love to see the Senna doing a proper dry lap. It may not be the prettiest but that's race car for you. The fact it has number plates is astonishing and great respect for the dark burgundy with gold accents which do a lot to lift the car. Once had a Favorit estate that colour!
Love to see you back at the test track, please do more of these. And please test every car there is here, you have the same but a more refreshing top gear vibe❤❤❤
Im gonna try to test every car - the racing ones will have to go to the bigger tracks i think
Never understood how you guys can get a hold of million dollar cars with close to a thousand HP, but can't fricking find or wait for a day when the track is fully dry to test them out at their fully potential. Nice clip though
Seriously!
It’s the UK it’s never dry.
These raw shakedowns on track under tricky conditions let the true character of these engineering feats truly shine and is exactly what Top Gear was made for. Thank you for keeping it alive Ben
We need a comparison of SF90 XX vs Senna on a dry track.
Well a fair comparison would be the base Senna vs the base Ferrari SF90, if you want the SF90 XX to go against the McLaren, it’s only fair to go against the Senna LM as they are both the second generation of their cars respectively.
ALWAYS INTERESTING BEN, keep up the great work
The Greatest Stig as well as one of the greatest motorsports presenter, Sir Ben Collins. It's simply remarkable how sublimely and beautifully do you host a car show, like literally nobody else that I've seen in over two decades. Sure, Clarkson was hilarious, but yours is incisive, accurate and engaging like a surgeon's scalpel. Most British motorsport journalists are heavily biased towards British cars, but you are really objective.
P.S. SF90 for me :)
Great show. Wanna see more car compehension on top gear track, thats basically the part i was watching them for as a kid ! so much nostalgy )! Really cant wait to see something like this again
Can't tell you how much I have missed super cars going round the Top Gear Track. In the US we just don't have any decent car shows. Please keep up the good work.
Yes !!! Why is that? Huge love for motorsports in the US but not a single good car show...I mean in TV. Camisa, Hagerty and others are top notch
Fantastic video Ben! Your insights elevate the already stellar quality. Well done. Very enjoyable to watch plus some 964 goodness to boot!! Fantastic!
Awesome video. Would love to see more
This, I like 👍👍. Thank you for this super fun and clean comparison of these monsters on track, and yes please return when it's dry and warmer.
if anyone is a jedi master of cars, it's you Collins
Superb as always!
Happy and safe New Year....with lots of sideways action! 😉
Fantastic comparison!! I was pretty sure I knew what the outcome would be, but this confirmed it! I would love to see the Senna go up against the SF90xx now!
I was surprised by the results - especially the straight line speeds (stuff no manufacturer will tell you haha)
@@BenCollinsDrives My gut felt that on a shorter track it would favor the Senna, but on a track with longer straights, it might favor the SF90. But, maybe now that isn't so clear to me
@@BenCollinsDrives I thought it would be a 3 to 4 seconds advantage for the Senna. I guess the conditions really helped the AWD SF90? 992 GT3 RS would be a great comparison. Could you also do a current hot-hatch lap time video vs's your Delta? :)
Love to see Ben driving these beasts and helping us imagine what it's like behind the wheel. Big cheers and happy new year 🎊
Please Ben, keep racing at the Top Gear track and create a new lap time leader board. We are all missing the classic Top Gear series. (2002 onwards) Always great videos and I'm really looking forward to 2025 videos.
Ben Collins is the best test driver on RUclips. Keep up your good work Ben, looking forward to see what`s next to be testing🚗👍
765lt please! Great video!
Fantastic video! Thank you! Loved it and you seem much more natural and at home on camera in this type of car test video 👌😀
With track conditions totally suited to the sf90, that was a mega lap in the senna. Your reaction to your first drive in the senna was bang on. That’s why it’s special.
This is why if i had the money i would stay away from ferrari they are just a name, they haven't produced fast cars for over 20 years in f1 and road cars and they never will because of their ego
@@GhostonRUclips201x Tell us in other ways you don't watch F1 🤣🤣 Do you watch any other motorsports? WEC maybe?
@@GhostonRUclips201x
How many Ferraris have you owned and tracked?
i highly doubt that any super/hyper car is being good at damp conditions
@@GhostonRUclips201x I feel you underestimate the effect of the weight. The Sf90 is heavy compared to the Senna and it will not be able to corner to it's maximum when it's greasy. Braking will be effected too, probably more so than with the Senna.
Great video I'm a porche fan so anything from them. Love the end where you show the difference.
you're in luck that's on the slate !
What a spec on this Senna 👌
It was very good to see you back home where you belonged. A great video both cars are awesome and if anyone of us had the money i bet we would have both. Thanks. May i take this time to wish you and your family a Happy Christmas & a very good New year.
And to you lets go big in ‘25
Not surprised at all by the result, as the Senna is almost 500kg's lighter than the SF90 and we all know McLaren underrates their power figures, so you're looking at roughly 850hp vs 986hp, but 500kg less weight and a shit ton more downforce in the Senna's favour
Price to have electric and awd. More components and batteries more weight.
Great content and editing. Thank you Ben Collins team
Glad you enjoyed it. The team sees all the comments!
A bit nostalgic watching you zoom around the TG track and missing the voice-over narration of JC as he adds drama to the laps!
No one knows the track, better than you, Ben..
Your technical ability, skill, driving the cars to absolute limit, provides a very accurate representation of the vehicles you’re testing. There’s no sugar coating with you, which we ALL appreciate.
It’s fabulous when you test at Dunsfold, we really know what these cars can do when you’re at the wheel. 🙌
It's a shame Senna's don't get driven like that but most Senna owners are not the Stig
How on earth has your channel not popped up in my recommendations before? Amazing video, a delight to watch
Glad its reaxhed your pearly gates Steve - now force everyone you know to subscribe 👊🤣
Ferrari learned what is the most important on the race track, and made sure, that the F80 produces enough of it.
Downforce 😏,also i think senna can dethrone jesko at topgear track in optimal conditions
F80 is not a race car anyway
the most important factor on the race track is weight.
@@erraldstyler Tires, suspension and downforce. AMG ONE showed that bigger weight isn't a problem if you have enough downforce and wide tires.
@@erraldstyler amg one disagrees
Love to see that massive Senna wing being used as a desk! thanks for the vid Ben, very enjoyable and the cinematography was awesome.
Wild Stigs comment had me rolling
everywhere... rooting for truffles
Awesome video Ben, great way to end the year. More of these please.
*There is no point spending £3 million on the F80 when Ferrari will launch a series production car that is faster than it in around 6 years. Like how the SF90 launched 6 after the Laferrari and is faster*
such a great great show and amazing filming quality!! 👏🏼👏🏼
Glad you enjoyed it!
considering the senna is 2 years older than the ferrari, and without 4wd and hybrid, it's so impressive to see it so close! great video ben what a holiday treat
2 year older is nothing in the car world
@treapyoney5886 Actually, it is 😂😂....the senna is more track focused with more downforce that's why it won..Now it needs to go against the SF90 XX
@@CJRSBK rumor has it that the sf90xx is two seconds faster than the base SF90! would love to see ben run it back on a dry dunsfold and with the XX!
@@KerryKingFish yeah it's a beast 💪
I wouldn't say a 1.6 seconds time difference is 'so close' in the car world tbh. And this is on a moist track too
Would love to have more of an insight into the data and telemetry. Also how you use the data provided to then apply it to the car and track.
Brilliant videos, thank you and keep up the great work!🙌🏽
1.6 second difference, okay. But what are the times ?
only showing full-blood dry lap times otherwise it's going to get messy when I start sparring with Baby Stig :)
@@BenCollinsDrivesDamn. I wanted to know the times. In an early episode of Top Gear Clarskon did a piece about modern cars vs old racers and an F1 car went around in 59 seconds on a damp track. Then he joked saying one day you’ll be able to buy a road car just as fast. I wonder if the McMurtry Fan Car can go round as fast as the Renault F1 car today.
@@BenCollinsDrives Oh ok, I understand ; )
But it's a shame, we would like to be able to compare with the old champions =) When will we have dry laps with the P1, the Laferrari ? Please ☺
Either way, 1.6 seconds is a big lead from the McLaren, which I think can only get bigger with a dry track, due to the Ferrari having the advantage of 4wd against the Senna’s 2nd… but I guess we will see. I personally think the senna is gonna be more than 2 seconds faster than the SF90 on a dry track.
@Pieces93 hush 🔔 end ...these are two different cars in two different categories and if you say no there the same then WTF is a SF90XX ?? It's a bloody track version of the SF90
Excellent talk through and good to see the results. Time for a TV series just on car times on that track.
Senna is such an underrated car. Beeing non-hybrid, I belive its values should soon surpass those of the defects prone P1.
Great Video Ben, that really shows there's more to it then just the final lap time. Cornering, aero handing and grip is what makes a great racking car ( don't forget also scaring the driver the whole time!).
Brilliant Ben, glad the McLaren won... keep up the fantastic content. John
It only won against the standard SF90 ...how about the SF90 XX stradale 😊
yes glad a track focused car with higher downforce won against a ferrari made to be driven on roads . i mean if senna hadn't won it would be sad
@@CJRSBK You do know that was just the standard Sena too right? 😁
@@sickjohnson that has to be the most ridiculous comment I've ever read lol 😆 😂 🤣 The senna is a track car ,SF90 road car ......SF90 XX is the equivalent of a senna numb nuts
The SF90 was released in 2019 and the Senna was released in 2017. The Senna still won by nearly 2 seconds despite being 2 years older. The newer 765 LT would be even quicker.
Ben, this is so awesome considering where you are and what you are driving...it's like pure magic!
Another awesome video, would love to see how it would go on the hot + dry too.
The owners of the cars are absolute legends for doing this!
The fact that the sf90 has 200 hp more and is AWD in wet is still 1.6 seconds slower shows how insane the senna is
stop watching in 360p the laps were done in almost dry
@@xsxxsvkall I hear from you is “waaahhhh wahhhhh waaahhhh”. 😂😂😂😂😂
What a amazing video Ben. Love your content and how down to earth you are. Keep it going.
Loved the video! This was a great comparison.
Great driving, presenting, filming, and editing! Well done Ben, feels like a proper Top Gear feature. 👊😎
Excellent take at the difference between mechanical grip and downforce through two completely different approaches. Really interesting and entertaining stuff from you, Mr. Collins! And the pleasure to be back to that Top Gear circuit, in the natural habitat of the Stig… Perfect. I wish you and your team the best for 2025
Great comparison.. looking forward to more such match ups!
This was such a great H2H, especially as Ben is getting so much better as a Top Gear calibre presenter.
I'm fine with the silent track-focused drives, perhaps there could have been post-drive commentary of how the cars handled in each corner/on each straight in voice-over added in post.
That was awesome 👌🏻, loved the graph comparison at the end 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you Mr Collins, this is a great comparison of the two great cars, you did us proud, great to see the STIG back home!
Thanks ben love the videos ❤ when are you guys coming to Australia i have something for you to drive ?
This was nice. A real treat, in fact. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Awesome video like always. Would love to see more of comparisons like this.
I really like this format- cool to see the data comparisons. Bens just a down to earth car guy who can obviously drive like a nutter. Great video
Needed some classical music or something for the in-car shots during the hot laps! Really though, so cool to see you back there, and with the classic camera angles. Brought back good memories
Great results considering the track conditions, race car vs road car is def. evident & your results show. can't wait for a dry track run & stretch the Senna's leg's Ben. Merry Christmas & a Happy New Year
What a kick ass video, proper proper driving & kits as always... So the model years vary slightly in terms of the control settings on the Senna, but in the drive mode settings, access the track mode menu, select it & once it's confirmed that you're within limits of being on track it will grant it & then you should have access to adjust or fully disable TC
Really enjoyed the post-lap analysis 👍
OMG.....THANK YOU for adding an audio track in Spanish, even if it is robotic, it is appreciated.
Amazing ben. What a piece of machinery. Great ti see you back in that ironic track. The camera angle all spot on ❤
What an awesome match up. The Daddy Stig against two beast motors. Happy new year BC 👍
Great video and lovely production too - keep it up Ben! I'm not taking the piss here - I feel like we need to do a track test of an American Bus vs an English Bus - Greyhound Lines vs an old double decker would be wonderful. The comic value would be superb...