Lazio Has A Disgraceful Problem.
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- Опубликовано: 25 окт 2024
- today we talk about the disgraces of lazio's ultras and briefly all of italy's ultra culture
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RUclips had an extremely dumb change which now means even saying a “non family friendly” word a few too many times can get you demonitized. As a result this vid has a decent amount of censors, so sorry bout that. I hate it.
No worries bro
So just the word "racism" is now bad? Fuck youtube man
Funny how RUclips claims they care about fighting Racism, but when someone releases a video vilifying someone for it, RUclips says that’s inappropriate. Funny indeed.
God I hate RUclips...
No need to apologize bro.RUclips can be bad place.Btw what happened to your Arsenal vid coz it disappeared?
RUclips: We care about fighting Racism
Also RUclips: Don’t you dare talk about or say the word Racism or else we will punish you.
Good video Maxwell
I cant believe that someone can get in trouble for saying a word like “racism”. Im sick of this child friendly thing
RUclips are the masters of making the worst policies each time they make policies worse than the last one .
It is smart that they make it punishibale for mentioning racism. We shouldn't give it attention so we make it meaningless
Pootube
Way too many kids use this app and honestly they get recommended some weird shit so I can understand RUclips’s reasoning, but this is wayyy too much. Censoring bad words is one thing but just censoring words is dumb asf.
small club HJK Helsinki was fined over 100k (i think) for chanting that UEFA is a mafia while Lazio gets fined way less for way worse. it is a disgrace.
lol
A referee got excluded due to "racism" for saying a player was black while identifying after giving him a yellow card
Warsaw fans being rebellious towards uefa Chanted “UEFA is Taliban" where banned for 3 matches while lazio got fined for only 1000 for attacking a jewish player
Legia Warsaw is fined into the next Century. No away days and next 5 EUFA games played in empty stadiums -
Teddy boys 95 🪒
Muhammad is not Welcome 🚷👳🏾♀️ 💥🔫 🇵🇱 ✝️ 🇭🇺
As an italian I can guarantee you nothing will be done, it's a country issue not just a sport one. The majority of people do not care 🤷🏻♂️
@@Sinha010 imagine being such a loser that you hate somebody because of something they were born with and can't change.
@@Sinha010 cringe
@@67Zo Are you following my comments? Now that's cringe.
@@Sinha010 your comments pop on my RUclips Notis and you are a fascinating individual and a idiotic one too
@@Sinha010 is dumb more than cringe
The levels of irony in Lazio having "SS" infront of their name.
At this poinit, I doubt it's Irony that they keep it
the SS stands for Società Sportiva
@@strasbourgsteve I know the SS doesn't really stand for a certain German thing.
It's just ironic out of every alphabet in existence,they got "SS" and also just happen to have fascist ultras💀
SS Nazio
If you want more irony, a descendent of Mussolini plays for them as well
It is sad that yt forces content creators to censor themselves so MUCH. This kind of serious topic should be discussed without censorship.
RUclips's rules are so shameful that you can't even say some words in videos. Doesn't matter if you're condemning the actions, you just can't say it.
In a few years we'll only see videos in sign language at this rate.
@@mavericu_ which is an awful thing for all sides (even the advertisers that youtube are so trying to help) edit: bruh
hilarious , the left ALWAYS destroys itself.
@@benitolazio8193 So does much of the far-right, what's your point
Lazio history is literally connected to the Brown-Shirts and was considered Mussolini's favorite club.
This shouldn't really be a surprise at all.
Also I think we really forgot fast how Serie A tried to "counter racism" with monkey graphic art💀☠
Lazio literally had the fascist symbol on their logo in the 30s and 40s
I thought Roma was Mussolini's favorit club
That's not true considering Mussolini founded Roma
@@VelikiDim cringe
That's kinda a fake news, considering that Mussolini tried to unify the two teams in Rome and Lazio opposed his decision. Fun fact, the person who captured Mussolini was a Lazio fun-club member. The problem is way bigger and spread accross all Ultras but Italian media tend to emphasize it only with a few team, just for example the ultra's leader of Rome is the political leader of "Forza Nuova" an apertly declared neo fascist political movement but media seams to forget about it every time.
The fact that this is not even the worst club when it comes to this is remarkable. BTW, that title would go to Beiter Jerusalem.
The irony!
why s beiter jerusalem so r@cist?
I have a black friend and co-worker that recently went to Italy. He said he couldn't cut his hair in the time he was there, because every place he went to, the barber gave an excuse like "we are about to close", but after an hour my friend could see through the windows that they were still open and cutting other people's hair. I'm pretty sure this is only a minority in Italy, but there's definetely a big problem regarding those matters there.
That is really fucking dumb.
Unfortunately it's not, I think many people forget (especially here in europe) which side the italians were on during WW2 (obviously not all italians are racists and honestly it wasn't just the italians), it's not something they even really mention in schools and in most european countries people of color will encounter not so subtle racism. Fascism and racism througout history is censored especially that which took place more recently, it's uncomfortable so people don't talk about it which allows the problem grow and because the majority of people here haven't experienced it there's a belief that it's no longer a problem
Italy is the most racist country in Western Europe
I don't see a problem. The problem is that your friend was there and the people don't want him there.
@@Sinha010 they’re just racists and so are you people like are rotten spot in this beautiful sport and world
If you want a similar story you might want to dig deep into Atletico de Madrid. Hint: start with "Frente Atletico" and "Jimmy"
EDIT: you can also play a "game" that me and my friends play called "spot the taxi stoppers" in pictures of Atletico fans. You can even find some in their farewell to Luis Suarez
Has this been a long-running issue with Atleti?
The good news in Spain is that Real Madrid and Barcelona have banned their violent right-wing ultras and that unlike in Italy, there's a lot more left-wing ultra groups. The bad news is the political differences between right-wing and left-wing ultras is probably more likely to produce sporadic violence with places like Seville or Madrid being particularly hazardous due to Real Betis/Sevilla or the Atletico/Rayo Vallecano ultras
@@Eibarwoman there is not a lot of left-wing football fan groups lol specially compared to the amount of right-wing groups and more so on the bigger clubs
@@Alex-mq6qi The right-wing groups at the largest clubs (Atletico Madrid, Real Madrid, and Barca) on the other hand particularly troublingly. Atletico's is the one given free reign and unlike the ones at Real Madrid or Barca, haven't been kicked out of the premises and forced to reside in bars.
The left-wing ones are found in your less competitive clubs at least in terms of La Liga title aspirations and aren't exactly a guarantee. The Basque ones are rather troublesome in a different way with historical fondness for a defunct terror group. Football ultras in Spain to put it lightly tend to be vehicles of political extremism with left-wing ones tending to be more prone to "Abertzale/regionalist separatism" of a Marxist-Leninist type and right-wing groups of a Francoist leaning.
@@Eibarwoman yeah but that last bit is a consequence of everything in this country being overpoliticized. I still insist that most ultra groups are right-wing as opposed to left-wing and there's entire regions where no decent-sized club will have a group that's left-leaning (barr really obscure groups that are basically friend clubs lol)
I’m Mexican and I became a AS Roma fan because of Totti. On 2016 I finally was able to buy my ticket to go and watch a game live. All I can say is that there is a big difference between those two clubs, I felt welcomed on the stadium and I did not hear anything like this on the AS Roma side.
You probably just look Italian
If u where dark skinned I’m sure ur experience would’ve been different
@@pascho1057 i dont think mexicans look like italians
@@Benji-mv8qm it depends in which section you stay, in San Siro (both Inter and Milan) there are plenty of people of African or Asian descent, in all sectors of the stadium, see, it is not properly about pure racism it is more about humiliating the opponent in the most cruel way possible. To give you another example there's jews in the curva sud verona the most nazi curva in italy, and they call "jews" the opponent, but the Jews that frequent the curva are well aware about it.
@Kwame Kimoko i dont think we will move on from that
As an Italian, i have to say it. We have a problem with racism
That’s still a massive understatement too
@@bababababababa6124 The old generations are the problem
@@bababababababa6124 I mean you don’t see cops brutally murdering black people in Italy 😂😂 But yes we are racist
@@consistencyiskey267 okay and that somehow makes it better? It’s not a competition 😐also sounds like you are proud of it or something
@@bababababababa6124 I never said it was a competition I just think it’s a pretty minor problem compared to other countries in the world where racism is prevalent. But assume whatever you want, you people love to play victim 👍
Fun fact: In 2015 (I think) during a Grêmio x Santos game, racist chants broke out from Grêmio supporters aimed at Santos's GK Aranha. The result: Grêmio was EXCLUDED from Copa do Brasil.
Leagues should do this more often, instant relegation.
They should of been awarded the cup.
"torcida" = 3 pessoas kkkkkkkkkkkkkk
what are they supposed to do? exlcude the whole league? every team in italy has racist fans. Not only that but they are often connected to the owners and presidents of clubs. You cant penalise one or two teams for something the majority of italian society is guilty off. How can they give a fuck about racism if they are all racists.
@@incognita112 Just ban them from European competitions
@@benitolazio8193 i should be given an award because i fucked your mom
I'm a Lazio fan, and I can confirm that in Italy a lot of clubs have the same incidents but the thing is that they are the minority of fans, and with Lazio is no exeption. Football fans are like a small society and just like a society there is always the guy who supports these stupid acts. But many people called me names refered to those acts even tho are history and fans are much more. We should learn from these things but the problem is that the italian FA doesn't do much
Exactly, Lazio are just the easy scapegoats. Anyone who follows Serie A closely knows it’s a league-wide problem.
Yeah but if it's a minority, so why the majority make them quiet once and for all ?
@@Laziale719no kid
Lazio fans are the worst
@@Laziale719 Lazio are really the worst ones. Second to Juventus
As a Lazio fan i can confirm that, it is a sizable minority and a very vocal one unfortunately. It is not only a problem with Lazio, but with other clubs in Italy like: Hellas Verona and Inter. The problem, as Maqwell explained, is that the punishments is always too light and ineffective, i hope one day i can go to the stadium without hearing racist, fascist and anti-semitic chants from the other Lazio fans, but i doubt so
I agree with you 100% bro as a fellow Lazio supporter 👍
Exactly although it is a problem with lazio and needs rooted out I feel like we as laziale get singled out even though I believe it’s more of a Italian football problem rather than just a lazio one
Inter ultras being racist is so incredibly ironic to me since that club was founded on anti-racist values - but then again, expecting racists to have more than a single braincell is a huge stretch. I still remember our Boxing Day clash against them in 2018; Koulibaly was target of racial abuse from the ultras basically for the entire match, and when he tried to bring light to the problem the ref gave him a yellow card and sent him off due to accumulation of yellows.
Hellas Verona? Holy moly, I'd say they are even worse than Lazio. In 2019 their ultras racially abused Balotelli during their home game against Brescia, and their Twitter account basically said "what racist chants, we didn't hear anything!" And as if THAT wasn't enough, in 1996 they protested the club's decision to buy Maickel Ferrier, a black player, by hanging a racist effigy of him in their stadium end, wearing KKK robes, and unveiling a banner in Veronese telling Ferrier to go clean the stadium for them. Ah, and another thing, their ultras leader is also a figurehead of neo-Fascist organization Forza Nuova.
That being said, Lazio needs to understand the deal with the ultras and be ready do do some sacrifices in order to kick racism out of their Curva once and for all. Even my anti-racist Lazio supporter friend understands this.
@@brokenbrilliancerab6911 Well said
I honestly don’t even think it’s a minority at this point, it happens far too often
Unfortunately I think that this problem will just get worse considering everything going on in Italy
What’s going on in Italy?
@@chellio6463 they just elected an openly fascist president that praises mussolini
@@chellio6463 far-right is at the esecutive in this moment and they have the most of the seats in the Parlament
@correctbydefault2047 they are very anti lgbt & anti immigration. The prime minister has also praised Mussolini many years ago and also apparently was part of a neo fascist activist group
@Correct by default Maybe the fact that the current prime minister has consistently and regularly praised both Mussolini and close political allies of his since her teens? Just maybe? Yanks are absolutely delusional. You sound like Commies looking at someone with a portrait of Marx above their bed and saying "they're not REAL communists".
As a Lazio supporter, I would like to make a few considerations.
I live in Rome and, in my very personal experience, most of the laziali i know are not absolutely right-wing, nor extremists. I have also met far-right Lazio supporters and the problem becomes more evident in the stadium, but from my direct experience I can say that they are a minority (it is an opinion that derives from my experiences, it can easily be contradicted).
The problem can be identified in two factors: the Italian culture and the ultras mentality. The ultras are extremists by definition, they experience strong ingroup dynamics and try to identify themselves in the most radicalized political ideologies. Without taking anything away from the Lazio ultras, and I state that I repudiate fascism and strongly condemn it, it makes no sense to "hate Lazio" because of the ultras (as many people say) because the ultras are only a possible manifestation of human behavior, and they are very similar in all teams.
The founding values of the club, inspired by the Olympic spirit, differ greatly from the thinking of these people.
I am sorry to contradict the Roma fans who think they are distant from these facts, because even if it makes less of a stir, some Roma ultras have often made equally deplorable gestures, such as writing "Laziale Jew" in front of a school in Balduina, or creating Hitler stickers with a Roma jersey, or wearing T-shirts that read "roma marches again" (in reference to the march on rome). It would be logically incorrect if I stated that Roma fans are fascists: people are, and most frequently the one who define themself ultras. And they are the evil of football and society in general.
I am tired of these people who soil the highest values of sports.
I really hope, as mentioned in the video, that serie a will take more serious action on this problem.
Ehi, il ragazzo qui parla la lingua dei fatti 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Ti farei tanto di cappello se ne indossassi uno
How is that a problem
@@dakkossman2063 racist hooligans all over the country located in almost every team, i would call that a problem
Fratellino mio non va allo stadietto ahahahah
Very well written response. Thank you for your insight as a Lazio supporter
The solution? 16 games behind close doors and/or fines that go into the millions of euros. If their revenue plummets as a result of that, the clubs will fight against racism as hard as they fight against dudes who watch Salernitana vs Cagliari on footybite.
At this point, with how many incidents have happened and how they’re still happening, they should be treated like a club who is in financial crisis and be relegated to Serie B.
@@WichitaChiefSam right, docking some points from them should also help.
the club should crack down on those far-right fans and banned them from everything related to the club. Such as banning them from games.
IN ITALY EVERY CLUB MADE RACIST UH UH UH AND ORHER, BUT ONLY LAZIO IS PUNISHED
@@francescomassimi6679a zi la lazio ne fa una alla settimana sonp d'accordo che molte tifoserie in serie a sono razziste ma c'è un limite
Lazio has been having that problem for years. It's a problem in many other Italian clubs and government as well. Only Beitar is a little bit worse
Beitar’s new owner told them to f off
@@rochesteraviation-upthetof8162 and yet, nothing has changed or will change. Bigots won't stop because you ask them to. You have to force them
@@TheReddShinobi13 I read that they recently celebrated one year of no racism
It isn't Beitar's problem, it's Israel's problem. Most in Israel support the oppression of Palestinians, Beitar fans are just loud about it
Mallorca in Spain is also prone to banana throwing antics. It's probably a good thing Mallorca's a yo-yo club and not of Lazio's stature
Watching this now, YT takes a massive FUCKING L for not letting you say words that otherwise define football team supporters in general. Politics and football go together like milk and honey unless it's just about passion.
Anyone who says that politics and football don't go together doesn't know about the history of either
Just because you mentioned him in this video briefly, to those that never saw him Lilian Thuram was an unbelievable defender
Lazio based
These damn blips, what the hell are youtube thinking? I can't say the name *Benito Mussolini* now?
I guess so.
It depends(youtube can demonetize,but not always)
I'm actually from Rome and remember vividly seeing the after effect of the attack in the drunken ship. It was a cool place where you used to be able to play beer pong.
Btw, the same thing happens in Argentinean football, specially if we're talking about Boca Juniors. In every game against Brazilian teams in Libertadores there is a HUGE part of crowd that makes monkey noises towards players (in fact last year, a guy was arrested during a Boca Juniors x Corinthians game, but was released on bail after the occurred, just to make a racist post again on Instagram mere minutes after leaving the PD. Ironically, Corinthians eliminated Boca Juniors.)
This happens with many others teams in Argentina and South America, you can't judge a team based on some idiot hooligans
@@sklss except with Boca Juniors. We can absolutely put them in the same level as Lazio.
@@matheuscruz19 I'm not a Boca fan, honestly you seem very biased against them
@@matheuscruz19 Lazio is a team with actual historical fascist roots and connections. Boca Juniors are not on that level at all.
@@BIadelores and yet, they behave like that.
Btw, Alessandra Mussolini has a City Pop album, SUNG IN JAPANESE.
She was an Idol in Showa Era Japan. And funnily enough, she is now not as Right-Wing as the Right-Wing parties in Italy. I find it ironic because imagine how messed up you have to be if *Mussolini's Granddaughter* thinks you're doing too much
and a son, who has Mussolini as surname, and plays - SPOILER - for Lazio
I am an transplanted Americano here up in the hills Lativm, east of Roma (Capitale). I started cheering for Lazio when they won the scudetto back in 2000. I want take a moment to defend my club. It is not right to blame the majority for the ignorant few that let the evil in their hearts manifest. I obtained my Italian citizenship from my grandparents and family that immigrated. I have lived in the south (Calabria) and have family in Molise. I live now around both Romanisti and Laziali. Our palazzo (apartment building) is full of gente Laziale. They have asked multiple times to go with them to the Olimpico and to the Curva Nord. Which I have yet to do, it will be a dream come true. On Sunday's or gamedays when Lazio scores the building literally shakes and everyone can hear each others shouts of joy. None of the people, or people I know that cheer for Lazio have an hateful or r****t bone in their bodies. Actually, they are ashamed to be associated with those anti-sportivi ignorants that express the evil in their hearts. I am telling you truth EVERY CLUB IN THIS COUNTRY EVERY CLUB! has those kinds of fans. Because stadiums are composed of human people. SS Lazio just gets the press because our Ultras are some of the most extreme. If any of you believe that AS Roma, Juventus, Napoli, Hellas, Inter, Empoli, Atalanta, or any club in Sicily have ultras that do not express certain opinions or make chants to fuel what they carry inside the ❤ then you are under quite an illusion. It is a human problem. It is a heart problem. An individual human being must take responsibility for what we have inside. However, please football fans that read this do not group certain club colors (*Biancocelesti in particular) into a judgement. That is not at all just, but discriminatory in itself. Sempre Ave Lazio! 💙🤍🌞🤙
Grande forza Lazio!
me ne frego
As an italian and Roma fan, the biggest blame is on the italian FA and not on the Club (Lazio) for ignoring these despicable acts or at best imposing light sanctions to clubs. What we’d need to do is to imitate what the English FA did with hooligans from the 1980s on, they made them disappear with lifetime bans and now stadiums are way safer environments for everybody.
Ofc the club won’t outright condemn and ban their main source of revenue, action must be taken by FA and UEFA
Daje Roma
@@giuseppe1193 sempre
Average Roma fan L,the only good thing you guys have is Jose Mourinho
@@UltraInstinctGoku69it’s an “L” to have concrete action to eliminate racism from the stands? Incredible amount of bigotry on display right here
sellout
I can't believe FIFA fines México but not the Italian clubs
Facts
That's the UEFA and the Italian Federation's job.
Or did you forget the fact that FIFA punished Mexico for acts during a WC qualifier ?
when you don't understand the difference between a club and a national team, or the concept of jurisdiction, yet you have such strong opinions...
@@stewie4467 He's american
his whole culture revolves around this paradox
🤣🤣
Thank Infantino for that
What you neglected to mention about the mihajlovic incident is that when vieira and him ended up together at milan they got along well. Idt either was being racist so much as using race in the on field mental battle, which isnt good but still isnt an actual hateful ideology
no that's still racist
This video feels like a censored rap song on NBA 2K.
I’m absolutely horrified that this happens especially in such a well known club
Well Lazio has a long history of fascism in their club. The average supporter isn't a nazi but historially Lazio always attracted fascist ultras. Although from my understanding this has been a problem in Italy in general lately. Italians can correct me if I'm wrong. But the rise of fascism is slightly becoming a global isssue in the last decade or so. Greece also has a similar problem but there is at least a significant pushback by other ultras. Regardless when the FA is not willing to do anything it shall fall to the fans to fix the issue as best they can whether we like it or not.
real madrid used to have fascist fans during 30s to 80s
they were also supported by franco
Well known for racisme of course
@@yourlocalidiot750 Ultras Sur was banned in 2014. Up until then Real had loud fascists supporting them in every game.
@@ziddax damn, fascists there took longer to be banned then i thought. the more you know.
I'm a Hispanic American and I found out I have some Italian in me from my grandad's side and ironically enough, Lazio was the strongest region. Knowing me and my curiosity, I had to look this up and now I wanna go there lol. I just hope there's some good food y'all 🙏 ❤ 🇮🇹
Io amo a italia!
Seems like the entirety of the serie a in general has this problem.
Tbh i don't see this issue with black south American players in serie A.. maybe its not an Italian or serie A issue.. but something else.
It seems that Italy has this problem, Europe, Eurasia, the world, the universe....
europe in general has this problem
@@jmgonzales7701 and latin America has a big cartel problem.. i know which problem I'd rather have..
@@Micfri300 im not latino thou... also i am aware every country has their problems thou I'm saying this kind of problem is a problem of Europe in general.
Thank you for putting so much effort into these videos. I really appreciate how you cover football controversies and serious topics and not just the entertainment aspect of it all.
Its very sad that this garbage still happens. I actually went to see AC Milan vs Lazio as i am a Milan fan, but accidentally booked in the Lazio section. The fans i was next to never said anything offensive i could here, outside of your typical D*mn F*ck and sh*t when Milan scored, just like any other sporting match. Outside that, nobody in that section seemed out of order for a match. I feel for those normal fans who have to deal with the Ultras ruining the reputation for anyone else...
Steward working mainly at the Dall'Ara (Bologna FC stadium) here. Thankfully Bologna does not have these problems, with everyone included ultras being against racism and discrimination of any kind. However during a match at Sassuolo Stadium (the organiser Is the same and since It's close from Bologna we go there frequently), Salernitana supporters were racially abusing Sassuolo's black players, even tho Salernitana's best player was Simy lol. I was under their stand and when I had enough of the monkey chants I tried to contact the higher ups expressing my disgust, but i only got a "Yeah yeah i'll tell the federation" with a blatant disinterest. Unsurprisingly nothing came out on the news so my action was in vain, the problem Is with adult/old people Who have important positions, they Just dont care.
Also in my workplace there Is a black guy Who constantly gets racially abused and called the n word by our mid 40s/50s bosses, he said to me that he's not bothered by It but when i look at his face i can tell It hurts.
I really Hope things change with the new generation
Was a steward in Italian Stadia from 2009 to 2014 for the most in Northern Italy.
Mostly Brescia, Verona, Parma, Padova and so on.
Luckily we always defended our teammates (most of them had african origins) from racial abuses.
In that sense, DASPOs and Tessera del Tifoso improved the level of safety a lot.
Still the issue is indeed cultural (and a ton of italians are literally retarded AF), and it will take decades to solve, thou, yeah, sadly what you wrote is kinda true
The new italian generation is changing..but are more ignorant in other aspects such has for example acknowledging italians who were born abroad.
@@Micfri300 ?
@@Ciaoandrea999 resolve one "problem" ruin another ie removing automatic citizenship to those born abroad all to for "progress"
Thanks Karen , snitch.
As a Roma fan i can say that, sadly, a big part of Lazio fans are like this
As a Feyenoord fan, I'm glad we knocked those fuckers out of the Europa League.
And even though we lost against you in the final, I can at least still respect your club.
Roma >>>>>> Lazio
E se lo dice un romanista...
Anche voi non siete una tifoseria immacolata.
@@gimmy5393 mai detto questo. Ho solo detto che i laziali sono peggio
Roma fans are also pretty bad
@@anibalrodriguez2626 Any fan can be bad, but this is just outrageous.
On the topic of sinisa, apparently he did that with anyone he came up against just to set them off. Can't speak on if his intentions were purely racist but that is an insane way to get in your opponent's head.
Wow this is unreal... Welcoming the first black player and thats how you welcome them.
Correct
@@benitolazio8193Bro Mussolini failed to invade Greece, shit his pants, and needed Germany to carry his ass. It's more so humiliating that your fans worship that shit bag. Bro failed in the biggest war in history. Like I'd rather admire a guy that actually did something in that war than Mussolini who looked like a clown.
@@benitolazio8193 Napoliiiii aye aye
wooow Whats happening with lazio jesus christ holy what the hell btw great work maqwell always love watching your channel
The only solution to this is UEFA banning Italian FA and Italian clubs from all European competitions, including WC qualifiers. Maybe then they'll take action.
UEFA in the 80's banned all English clubs for the actions of Liverpool fans during the Heysel disaster so a precedent exists. If their mantra really is "No to racism" they should ban the clubs whenever racist incidents happen.
banning a whole country because of a few dipshit is enormously fucking stupid. I'm glad morons with this mentality aren't in the governing body
Bring back transfer Thursdays please, most of us miss a few transfers due to school etc
Or you could just follow Fabrizio Romano..
@@raiyanibneshajed7434 I already do but he mostly just covers top transfers
Hey Max what do you think of the "Gio Reyna's family blackmail Greg Berhalter" situation?
Lazio supporters are some of the most gracious, passionate, and welcoming fan bases in all of Italy. Proud Laziali
This video is like a 50 cent song on the radio. half of it is silenced for censorship hahaha. Love the videos bro! Hope to see you at a CFC game this year!!! Go MINT CITY!!
When I was younger I used to support Lazio because Klose played for them. Thank god I didn't know how their fans were...
Instead support the best team in Rome💛♥️ (I'm joking)
About the Klose thing: Lazio ultras didn't spare him from their bullshit. I remember a picture I saw where one Lazio ultra raised a big banner with:" Klose mit uns " (Klose with us) written on it. This is a derivative of: "Gott mit uns" (God with us), which was the motto of the goddamn SS. What makes this even worse is that not only did they use the font that the SS used, but the fact that Miroslav Klose has polish roots.
These ultras always sucked!
@@PrinzPassionsfrucht Felt bad for Klose, one of my favorite footballer ever
If you are happy not to support a football team because of their ultras good for you, but real football fans stay loyal in spite of these things and try to improve the situation. As a non-racist, non-fascist Lazio fan we don't want you.
@@cocazer0 sus
Good that there are supporters who try to fight racism. In Poland, such ppl were either driven out or became worn out :(
RUclips's policy is so dumb lol
"So Racist fans did [redacted] and [redacted]. Even after that the [redacted] said [redacted] to this player. After that the federation gave [redacted] a [redacted] for 2 months for [redacted] because of [redacted]"
If this type of stuff was done in the US, it would be an instant lifetime ban for every single individual involved. It's disgusting that any of these isolated actions aren't punished to the highest order, much less all of them over years and years.
Maybe because USA is weak and wimpy?
Us doesn't have ultras whatsoever obviously they would ban them
US is a pathetic country that got half of its cities burned by african marxist supremacists called BLM after a drugged up criminal called floyd got what he deserved and nothing happened
I am Proud to be european and a lazio fan.
Americans are literal nobodies especially when it comes to football
@@ultramarine40k65 yeah we can see that you are a Lazio fan... FASCISTI FUORI DAGLI STADI SIETE DELLE MERDE
@@Ciaoandrea999 they kinda do just mostly in the nfl
Yes youtube, ban saying "racism". That will really help... wtf how are you supposed to talk about racism like this? It leaves the field wide open for actual racists, since noone can even call them out on their racism anymore on here
as someone who lived in rome last year, the drunken ship pub is a pretty small bar and is also right by a major tourist hub, so shit going out of control there is high key dangerous
Great, so both the Performance and the Fanbase of Lazio is on a decline
Nope, but you dancing on tiktok with you're dad are on a decline
The Lazio people are not fascists, only the ultras (who in Italy are almost all neo-fascists). the true Lazio people follow the Olympic spirit, directly from the foundation of the club in 1900. anyone with a brain is against certain extremist policies, both right and left.
I am a Laziali and I don't support discrimination or the ultra right supporters. Yes, they should be held accountable...and so should ALL ultras across Europe. Anti semtism and racism is an issue in all European leagues...Spain, England etc... I think you should also make a video pointing that out and not only Lazio.
Mussolini favorite club was Lazio, So Not surprised about this behavior
mussolini wanted to erase lazio, Mussolini founded as Roma, the fascist club. Mussolini was caught by ivo bitetti, a lazio player. Don't spread bullshits
Fake. He wasn't really interested in football, he only used it as a propaganda tool
No it wasn't,he hated Lazio because they refused his idea of a merger of Rome clubs into one.
Fake news
He was a Bologna fan
Judging by the current political attitude of Italy, I suspect this issue is not going away anytime soon
Good
@@sq_z clown
@@Aria-ck5suFaggot
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Been an Italian fan for 46 years now, it sucks, seeing this sucks. How do we deal with it? Obviously closed door games don't have the desired response long term. How bout we drop them down 2 divisions. That takes away sponsorship and money. At least for the most egregious teams. I never saw that equality poster for Italy til this video, wow, just wow. I have no words but wow. Thank you. for this video.
The football federation in Italy has to do what the English fa did when they had a problem with hooliganism in the 80s and 90s. Also uefa banned all English clubs competing in European competitions. The stadiums are way safer now and you see more women and children going to games as well. If lazio keeps doing this they should be punished like automatic relegation or something like that.
An Italian 'fan' you had no idea about that anti discrimination poster 😂 yep you've really got your finger on the button, another plastic joker.
Dwayne Castellarin?? You are Italian my ass. Stick to think to Canada and don't bother of Italy.
what is it to be an italian fan man you're not even italian you can't express yourself on a subject you don't know, go back to eating mac donald and don't talk about african migrant if you're not concerned
Tbh the covid time for Italian football was the best. No fans, no noise, no racism only football
All ultra groups here in Italy are terrible, but Lazio is probably the worst one from this point of view. The only one that can compete I think is Hellas Verona, although it obviously has a lower profile.
Seeing how Italy has constantly been quite challenging in terms of stopping discrimination has probably affected its popularity world wide especially with black people this could affect the league and make it a league far from the popularity it will have in the future if not fixed soon
Idk why italy suddenly is very discriminant to black people?
less blacks? sounds very good
@@deinvaterduhs the fuck is wrong with you
@@nuts3954 too many non whites in europe
@@deinvaterduhs too many racists like you in the world
does youtube really take your videos down if you say "racism" "fascism" and "Mussolini"??? The censorship is REEEEEEEEEEALLy annoying
great video bro.. you've always been a person who has spoken up. bless
Yeah , i mean , nobody else waffles on about woke garbage do they ....
@@benitolazio8193 I've seen you comment so much shit, why are you like this? Racist, facist? For what reason my friend, everyone should be equally respected
@Benito Lazio being against racism isnt being woke mate
glad you're not afraid to shed light on the lesser discussed problems in world football. just think of the incessant censoring as allowing yourself to continue doing this
So stunning , so brave ...until this is taken down , make the most of this communist garbage.
@@benitolazio8193 ?
Beitar Jerusalem fans admitting they are racist in the stadium
It’s kinda ironic you filmed this video while wearing a Celta Vigo kit. Italian fans are awful, but Spanish fans are almost just as bad. The entire Southern Europe has a problem with racism and it’s really sad. We must work together to fight it.
Spain's problems are undoubted existent but seem to be a bit more intermittent and localized due to a combo of more left-wing ultra groups being more commonplace which discourages said racism. The other reason would involve several clubs have banned some ultra groups, all right-wing ultra groups due to their violence and racism in particular from their stadiums.
Edit: That being said, the Spanish clubs that have right-wing ultra groups still permitted inside the stadium are troublesome and prolific. Particularly Mallorca comes to mind and probably won't ever do anything about their ultras due to finances unless the RFEF does something to punish the club as they're a Balaeric Island team where they're never going to Europe and get mocked by Celtic for example as the money isn't there for that.
Simply in southern Europe mass immigration from Africa is only 10-15 years old so they have not had centuries to normalize certain situations as racist as opposed to countries with a long past of extreme racism and colonialism such as Belgium, France, uk etc
@@alessiovalentini4401 not in Portugal tho, they had multiple colonies in Africa and a lot of people migrated from there to Portugal and vice versa
They're trying unlike Italy. No matter how much of a c*nt Balotelli was the stuff he went through in Italy before the Euro Cup of 2012 was disgusting.
You know USA isn’t perfect, but I just can’t wrap my head around the idea of this happening in a stadium here. It blows my mind this is so common not only in Italy, but Spain as well.
With Spain, there's also a significant number of left-wing ultra groups as well. But the clubs with right-wing ultras and smaller stadium crowds are particularly troublesome (think Mallorca)
@@Eibarwoman this kind of r@cism happens in spain😱
Usa is actually more progressive than most of europe.
@@jmgonzales7701 An increasingly uncommon event I reckon, but mostly because team owners and staff don't want racists lowering ticket values, sponsorship deals, etc. But the fact it happens in the first place is a problem.
Well the US divides people into races and kills and assaults people just because they are black, it's much worse. Ignorant Italian fans offend opponents regardless of color, origin and nationality and therefore black people are also involved
As a Lazio fan against any kind of racism I think you should have started with what you ended: the biggest problem is the league, that don't have the treath to give a banning order to fans, something that in Premier League is present. Second you have to consider how many of these people are: for example when you talked about that steward that was discriminated there's the video on youtube that proves that were actually only (I'n not joking) 4-5 people doing the choir. These people represent the first two line of seats in the stadium, you can't even present them as "Lazio fans" but as something else. You have been very disrespectful towards the rest of the fans and the football team putting it in a really bad light. And we are already a target, especially from referees when we play european cups
did you just ignore everything else he said
your club is supposed to be shown in a bad light. They have dozens of cases like this. Not just the steward one
@@uhAngellit’s always the same people that do it. Most of the laziali want these people GONE
It's so stupid that you have to censor half the video because of YT
What make it more annoying is that he has to censor words like “racism”
And even more that 90% of rap music videos say much worse uncensored
Yeah made it hard to follow
My old gym teacher at secondary school was a Lazio supporter who tried to run in politics with far right party CasaPound, idk how he managed to get a job in a school as a neof*scist
Lol. Neof*scist. As if they came up with new ideas, hence the prefix neo-.
@@nicholastricarico2957 true lol
@@benitolazio8193 sisì grazie
It's quite a commonly known problem. In fact it's like one of the first things you learn when you deal with italian football.
And like Maqwell says, not every Laziale is a racist. In fact I work with a woman who supports Lazio and who does not share some of the Laziali's fascist sentiments. But Italy does have quite a widespread problem with fascism, as we know, and Lazio seems to be sort of a "safe haven" for fascist supporters, much like AC Milan (to a lesser extent).
Then again, I partly blame anti-communist propaganda for creating as many fascists as there are in Italy. Some are fascists so they don't "have to be communist", which is very funny seeing how these people think there's only 2 choices.
Plus, I think it's very rich that there are any italian racists, given the fact they were seen as racially inferior themselves, for quite some time. The germans certainly didn't see them as equals, and they faced almost an equal amount of discrimination in the USA in the 19th and early 20th century. Not to say we should discriminate the italians, but they're no better than other peoples.
Because they're not germanic. (I jest, lads)
i've always found it so weird how some clubs are associated to political views, cause where i'm from (Portugal) there's not a single example (as far as i'm aware), where people support a club for any reason outside of sports, or people who base their views on the club they grew up supporting. like, sure, here in lisbon sporting used to be the club of the rich, while benfica used to be the club of the working class, but that doesn't happen anymore and it hasn't for decades, people just support their club regardless of social status or political views
Portoghese people though are far less fussy compared to italians and spanish people who have more pride about their culture and maintaining it though. Plus you weren't part of ww2 and burned to the ground causing many people to have their homes bombed to smitherines..
@@Micfri300well italy and germany started the war right ?
At least the germans fixed that and now there is a lot of nice people there.
But your country is poor, so you got what you deserved.
Losers
@@jeanrose1627 the brits started concentration camps 😃 at least get your facts right..
Has for Germans now being "nice" its called industry,Marshall plan and atomic bomb scientists..ever heard of hiroshima you dumb donkey
@@Micfri300 cry as much as you want
Your country is a Sh**hole
I really hope I never have to hear these sorts of things at a football match.
Same, im an ethnic minority and i dont want to experience asian hate😅
@chad chud i am 100% filipino, im asian no doubt.
diddums
It’s hilarious that saying someone is a socialist is nothing but someone saying they’re a fascist is some sort of insult.
Lets be consistent, you are allowed to believe and support fascism lmao.
I don't see anyone getting worked up over far left Livorno and St Pauli fans. Livorno fams dislpay Che Guevara flags in their sector
@@kadasrichard chud detected
@@kadasrichardgood for them
DAMN IT RUclips, LET THE MAN SAY IT
RUclips cant even solve scam and false advertising
@@ameEeeee3 true but still
First time ive unironically seen a youtuber correctly use "Facism" in a political sense,as in the italian facism and not german nazism
He called Alessandra "neonazi" so not really.
The Nazis were fascists too, just a different flavour
@@prkp7248 i get that,tbh they arent a neonazi but i would say they are definetly more of a national conservatism
@@aziirax3400 what's wrong with fascism though
Thank you for making me fallen in love with Lazio! Appreciate it!
Least racist sevco supporter
you're a sad, unimportant little man.
You will not be remembered.
Considering what results the Italian general election 2022 gave, I think those awful gestures will continue and thrive, which is very unfortunate.
What led italy to this much discrimination? Most of the time i only hear of american or brit discrimination.
@@jmgonzales7701 Hmmm... what could possibly be the cause of european anti-immigrant sentiment...
Oh Boo hoo
Ah yes lets make leftists ruin this country even more.
Bro just shut the fuck up u don't even live here how could u possibly talk
@@kapkan6930 its not about leftists, the leadership of Italy is clearly R@cist.
Alright alright this video convinced me, I'll be a Lazio fan now 😂
Lazio really standing up for themselves
It's always nice to see a refreshing, outside-Italy perspective on the problem.
its just english speaking wokes , we will never be black like ur own countries
Misinformation and leftwing narrative ? Waffle.
countries not invaded by africa should not express themselves on a subject they do not master
@@Chiamami_Capo Still pissed that Ethiopia never surrender to you huh?
@@falconeshield ask your grandparents what gas tastes like 😶🌫️
I just got back from a European holiday. My plan was buying a top from each city i go to.
I'm not a huge soccer fan but i watch it here and there.
When I was in Rome I learned there were two teams and since all the teams I go for wear blue I bought a Lazio shirt.
Then I come home and see this.
Lads....I think I made an error in judgement on this one
It's called football american bitch
@@ijusthatenormiesihavenooth1164 I'm Australian ya fucking gronk
You never, this guy has.
stop generalising. The Lazio people are not fascists, only the ultras (who in Italy are almost all neo-fascists). the true Lazio people follow the Olympic spirit, directly from the foundation of the club in 1900. anyone with a brain is against certain extremist policies, both right and left.
the badge for "SS Nazio" funnily enough resembles a nazi eagle badge
Kind of funny how clubs never get penalized for shit like this because they know the most vocal minority also happen to be some of the most diehard "fans" meaning the club is just gonna let those idiots continue attending matches
"idiots" ? look at your pic are you on the spectrum.
Rest in peace Siniša 🕊️
As Lazio fan i can say that we had a lot of black players over the years and some of them are amongst the most loved players of all times. Ask Caicedo, Dabo, Mudingay or Lukaku if laziali are racist. Is just a small minority that like to mess around because they have a sad life, I don’t think they even really support Lazio.
It's the fact that they had the great-grandson of a certain dictator on their books for me
cry
As a romanian, i fucking hope CFR Cluj knock them out of the UECL this winter
Have you said so?
As a black guy from England, I have never been interested in going to Italy for this reason. My friend (also black) went to Italy with his white girlfriend and was literally followed by a bunch of guys to his hotel room. Italy's deep-rooted issue with racism is so sad
Bro let me tell you this. That kind of issue is a european problem in general, it can be found in europe. Now as for italy i do not know the cause why there is such hatred for africans. But i do know every continent in the world has hatred on africans. I am sorry if it feels you alienated, but it is a problem of the world in general.
But blacks love white women over their own
😅😅😅
@@askellpositive some of that is true
@@jmgonzales7701 all of it is true no one hates himself like the black African
They want to be apart of European society so much
Black Belgium’s British Italians Spanish French want to be apart of their colonizers world
@@askellpositive maybe because they integrate? like i think we should top looking it as black and white and start looking at it as gray, a black person may like its European country that he was born to and he should assimilate, if he don't want europe then he can stay in his own land. regardless a person should feel patriotic about the land he was born to.
Celtic beating Lazio is one of the top 3 games i’ve ever been to, not because we won in the last minute of the game, but because we beat the fascists, then we did the exact same thing in Rome two weeks later 😂😂
I accidentally wore their team shirt in public with out any idea💀
Remember when Mussolini gave the Pope Vatican city , the catholic church was fascist ...you gonna dissavow that !
Quindi? Ora che ci dici?😂
@@valeriobregni3780 still one of my favourites, still doesn’t make u any less of a Fascist 👍🏻 Follow your leader
@@SKRHEUEH follow your leader: King Charles III
Now Lazio lost the first leg of CONFERENCE LEAGUE to AZ Alkmaar. Hope it gets worse for them.
i hope your club becomes bankrupt you probably dont even watch football
@@blitzblix9455 loses to Alkmaar😂
Sure, the players and 99% of the fans really deserve your hate because of some ultras 😂
@@lordmotaro not our fault they dont play good football
So you wish Lazio to lose, when it's not even the players fault. Lazio can achieve all the success they can, the entire club and the players don't deserve this. Just ban the offensive fans and call it a day.
meanwhile playing FIFA23 with Lazio 15 seasons as a one club man.
LOL, I'm more pissed by RUclips than Lazio at this point. I know they have been like that, since I watch Serie A back in 1994.
Italy has a very Asian way to tackle racism, however, they are in Europe. Half of their population think Hitler would kiss their arses and Alfred Rosenberg would "promote" them from Homo medierraneus to at least Alpine race. It is funny being in their Laziale fandom during the scudetto year, but awfully pathetic at the same time. Outside this BS, Italy is pretty fine. And when I visit them back in 2016, it seems football is dying in Italy, and probably for a good reason.
Are you serious? Half of the italians love hitler? Man you have to study a bit more. There is a minority of people thinking like that but most italians are not fascists nor racist!
fun fact balotelli has been dealing with racism for most of his footballing career
yeah, especially in euro 2012.... i think Maq did do a video on euro 2012's racist issues
That’s not a fun fact 💀
Newspeak in 2023 and this presenter meekly submits.
The based department called Lazio
From a football standpoint you can create sanctions and/or dock multiple points for each instance of abuse in my opinion.
But it feels like Italy never did a post war purge like what germany did since this seems so widespread.
Actually in Italy we don't even divide people by color or race like in USA or other places because you would rightly be called fascist. The only difference is that mass immigration from Africa to Italy is only 10-15 years old, so many racist behaviors are normalized because we haven't had black populations for centuries like the USA, France or UK which were centers of slavery or extreme and long colonialism
No they didn't and it's England and US's fault. They didn't let the Socialists who killed and hanged Mussolini rule Italy in fear of it becoming a communist country. Italy after got rid of the royals but not the bloodline that dragged them to WW2 and made them lose all conquered territory from WW1 yet to this day you find oldsoys worship Mussolini like he was a crownless King.
Levski - Lazio 20 years blood brothers
Support from Zagreb to my Blue Brothers🔵🇭🇷🇧🇬🦅
Next make a video about the self proclaimed most racist team in the world Beitar Jerusalem
He won't because only europeans get the backlash, not Yahweh's chosen tribe
Umtiti is a literal Cameroonian refugee whos family benefits of the regular people of France, millions of refugees have came to France not for a "better life" like they claim but because they will recieve the most benefits there. I would do it too if I was cameroonian. The issue is that these people are replacing the native people, and its no longer a conspiracy theory its a literal fact. He isnt some kid who got scouted out in cameroon for his good football, he comes from a family of ethnic cleansers and coinsidently became a footballer.
You are such an incredible breath of fresh air in the online football community!! So many football fans would either excuse or even endorse this behavior, but you have such incredible reporting and critiques that go to the root of the issues and I could not agree more with your proposed solutions. I just want to say thank you bc your videos truly give me hope haha
I hope one day racism will be destroyed in football and in the world. We all need to do our part ❤️
Fresh air ? what the hell are you talking about EVERY SINGLE WORLDWIDE ONLINE FOOTBALL CHANNEL / MEDIA is woke and promoting liberal values!
YES,THANK YOU!!! COULDN’T HAVE SAID IT BETTER
I have always been anti-Lazio because of those far right ultras.
Mi dispiace per te
The Lazio people are not fascists, only the ultras (who in Italy are almost all neo-fascists). the true Lazio people follow the Olympic spirit, directly from the foundation of the club in 1900. anyone with a brain is against certain extremist policies, both right and left.
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