Zeus sees literally any living creature walking around, minding its own business Zeus: *"THERE ARE NO WORDS ON GODS GREEN EARTH THAT CAN DESCRIBE HOW SPECTACULAR ERECT I AM!"*
I wish gamology would explain to the people reacting what the game is about. I wanna see their reaction to Adam and Eve being the first Humans and how the Mythologies are the "ones that came before"
Yeah it would be nice if they got like a quick debrief of what they are about to see. I’ve noticed it with other videos where alot of experts react go in blind and dont really understand what a game is about and misinterpreted some aspects.
In gamology’s defense it wouldn’t be a genuine reaction if they did tell them stuff. Yea it would clear things up but their reaction wouldn’t be 100% so it’s give and take.
Love seeing these two talk about everything, the history, scenery and accuracy of some things in Assassin's Creed, would love to see that with the other games Edit: wish they had shown the Steropes boss fight right after would've been funny
I expected a Skallagrim-level meltdown at the lack of phalanxes and Leonidas literally throwing his shield away, breaking formation, and performing wu-shu spear dancing against his foes. These two clearly had other concerns. :-P
Isn't the quote from the cave "and the cyclops dashed the men's skulls against the rock like puppies..."? I remember being a child and thinking, dam, that's cool ;)
This game has several different stories to follow. There is one with the war. There's one where you meet Xerxes brother (DLC). There's the mythical aspect to it. There's the family part of it. In the political part of it, Alkibiades , Aristophanes, Brasidas, even Herodotos and Sokrates (and so many more)... I wish you guys had concentrated on that storyline with it LOL. There's A LOT going on.
I was hoping you'd show them the actually historically accurate stuff. I don't need experts to go "yup the Minotaur was a myth and not real." Let them discuss the day to day life of the background of the game.
Should see if you have them see the Assassins Creed from the first game. There’s a lot of historical figures and places in the original triad with their companion games. Not to mention Black flag with pirate history and lore.
Finally getting historians to react to AC but you choose the most fantasy one lol. I’m not complaining but I was hoping for Unity honestly since I’m biased towards it.
Greek mythology is my favorite real world religious stuff because it just seems more... Real in many ways. Not so much how the gods came into being with some of them just being ocean ball juice or popping out of people's heads and weird stuff like that, but the portrayal of the gods as being very human like with flaws and insecurities and jealousy and punishing whimsically based on their anger, etc. It just feels very human of them, which I enjoy. Then you have things like Christianity where absolutely nothing makes sense. It is full of contradictions and nonsense that make no sense, especially when done by a supposedly all knowing god. You can really tell from the narratives woven in the bible they were all made up by men of the era and focused on things men of the era cared about and saw. Not to mention being amalgamations of multiple other religions and their stories baked into it, and adapting more things as history went on. Modern christianity is nothing like it was originally, having adopted so many additional pagan beliefs and practices and holidays especially. It just feels like a poorly written book meant for kids to try to teach what the author thinks are good morals. But the greek stuff all seems plausible. Zeus is horny and goes around having sex with women because that is exactly what some men would do if they had super powers. Even modern wealthy men have special contacts for sleeping with all sorts of different women, everything from prostitution to sex trafficking. Hera being mad as hell about all the bastards her husband kept making and wanting to murder them all, that is true to life, especially for that time period where women were INTENSELY jealous and hating of their spouse's kids that weren't theirs. And their stories make a lot more sense because they ARENT omniscient and they ARENT omnipotent, so if they make mistakes it makes sense. Unlike Christian god that supposedly knows everything but oops, created lucifer, created pride, gave him too much of it, knew he'd betray him and fall but did it anyway because.... Reasons? And then oops threw a tree in the garden of eden and said "dont touch it!" knowing that they would, like who the fuck does that? That is dickish behavior that makes no sense from a supposedly loving entity. Then everything that happened after adam and eve really doesn't matter at all until you get to Noah and his Ark because god apparently just decided the world had become too sinful (by the way, should've seen this coming and also made them that way..) and decided to murder everyone on earth except one family who then had to incestuously repopulate. So if god is all knowing and all powerful, why didn't he just START with Noah? Why even have a rough draft version 1 that he ends up erasing because he would've known how it ended. It's all just so stupid that, much like modern movies and tv shows, ridiculous and nonsensical things have to occur purely to justify the existence of the plot. But anyway. Greek Mythology has always been my favorite because the gods are powerful, but not omnipotent, wise, but not omniscient, and they behave in very human-like ways. It's easy to visualize and imagine the various greek myths actually happening and could actually work in sort of a modern real world setting without "breaking anything". You could think of them like Marvel Super Heroes more or less, just a handful of people with super powers that exist in an otherwise unchanged world. Then you look over at shit like Hindu where its like "yeah, the earth is flat and is being carried through space on elephants and turtles" and you're like :| yeah okay buddy. The only part of the mythology that doesn't sit well with me is all the weirdness with how some gods were created and some of them alien-style chest bursting out of each other and weird shit like that, but as far as religions go, it is the most plausible of them all.
There is a lot of the war in the game you just chose the four mythological beasts you fight to react to. Also the reason he's taking parts of the beasts is because the mythological beasts are explained as being precursor/isu constructs designed to protect artifacts with great power (it's all part of the assassin's creed lore as the the isu are an ancient race with advanced technology that went extinct but were viewed as gods to early humans)
I'm a historian so I'm forever critical with everything (life in general) but I've been a gamer longer sooo! Lol i appreciate the AC series (AC1 - Revelations, Odyssey and Origins)
Why do you show these historians reacting to the mythological aspects of the game? We would benefit more from their insight over the culture and visual details in the game.
if they are talking about real ancient greek culture they are obligated to say that kassandra is out of historical context as is free sexual behavior, this is not in favor of the politically correct agenda
Dude, i’m new to the channel but damn I love these vids. Thanks to all the experts. If you ever want any of the Batman Arkham games done, and you need a meat headed, 90’s child dork i’m your guy.
These would be great if the experts had a little more background about the game. If they don't even know what the characters are and their backstory for context, it's harder to react to what the game got right, what they got wrong, and what parts are open for interpretation because the evidence isn't there or yet to be found. Also would've been nice to see some ancient historians. He doesn't seem to know much about the ancient Greek world except for the myths, and even that seemed a stretch.
@@ryankirkpatrick3771 perhaps because the one on the right is influenced by its excited identity and does not take into account the ancient culture or the laws that were in force at that time, against such a free identity, if they had had to talk about ``some of quest`` the two would have quarreled
Loved this video. I just wish they showed the “fake Minotaur” of Leiandros to contrast with the one shown in this video. Would have been fun to see their reaction.
Gamology, you know this means we want them to basically react to every assassins creed game if possible lol. Its nice to see historians react and give there opinion on one of the best history games franchise there is
Maybe a little bit downhill after the ezio saga, or the one who simulate him in animus (i can't remember his name, it's been so long after my last gameplay)
Fun fact: The mythological creatures from AC Odyssey are in fact, abominations created by Project Olympus, an attempt from the Isu ( aka Those Who Came Before ) to harness and control the evolutive properties of the Apples of Eden.
Yes, they're basically here to create game hype, more than historical accuracy at anything. It would have been more interesting to have them react to the settings, the places, the political/historical figures etc. Everyone knows that the boss fights, weapons and armors in AC games are not accurate, they've never been and the devs never pretended they were.
Being an avid fan of Classic Civilizations, I absolutely LOVED this react. Both of them have a really great chemistry and understand the mythology aspect and the fact that it's just a game. From the little details to the full on historical details and myths, it was amazing! If any of them know about Egyptian Mythology and Ancient Egypt a reaction to AC Origins would be neat!
Main Errors : The Λ was not adopted and standartised to every spartan shield till the Peloponnesean war . The spartans didnt call their city Lakedaimonia but the whole region of Sparta from the area of Lakonia , the city was called Sparta by them and the rest of the world . Thermopylae is located near the North Evoian Bay (and at that time compared to now it was even nearer which is why the path was narrow and used by the Spartans in the first place , so what you see is a sea where the Persians land their ships , not a river/lake . The army of Xerxes in Thermopylae was not 1 million(thats an exaggerated myth) but 180000-300000 . Ephialtes was not deformed nor a spartan but from the land of Malis , a region in the borders of Thessaly at the time . Also not a single comment was made for the vambraces that everyone seems to wear in the game . Are we sure that these guys are historians and didnt just saw 300 and said yes now I am qualified to spread my knowledge to the world??
well spoke brother .also they didnt comment about how Leonidas throw his shield on the the battle of Thermopolis intro and how important is the shield on the the greek warfare. no Greek threw his shield unless he dies they also critisized very like mocking Herodotus writing. The father of history... Maybe i didnt understand correctly what he said about him amazons werent greek women were scythians originaly tribes that contact with hellenic world and some of them hellenized and had greek names by settle on greek populated areas like Anatolia, Pontus , Thrace , Lesbos island the guy that said he played the game said that the first civilazation artifacts are form the early bronze age people... yeah sure historian...
Probably a little late, but they also talked about the incorrect version of Medusa’s story. In the correct story, Medusa was always a gorgon, and was eventually killed by Perseus. The version where Athena turned Medusa into a gorgon is a version written by (I forgot his name) to spite Greece because he was kicked out, so he wrote stories insulting the Greek Gods
greek here actually we greeks have a lot of similarities in the looks and traditions from the middle east because we lived there for almost 2000 years we are more similar to them than the europeans
I remember getting most of my history lessons from playing the old Assassin's Creed games. It's great to see that historians are finally doing their reactions about it 😂
Love these react videos, just wish they showed more of the actual history and characters involved in the peloponnesian war to see the experts reactions (for example King Archidamus, Brasidas, Alkibiades, Perikles, etc). But it's still a pretty great video! ;)
If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure when Leonidas went to the Oracle he was actually told something along the lines that in order for Greece to be free (or to achieve victory) a King had to die or something similar along those lines.
According to Herodotus yes, Because I’m the Spartan oligarchy there were two kings, one as head of government while the other could act as general in war, meaning if one was lucky enough to have a warriors death then the political vaccum they left wouldn’t be so dire
Okay, though fictional, I want to explain something about the First Civilization, which in some other games is known as the Precursor Civilizations. They were a race of god-like beings that were on this planet before any of us, and was the most advanced civilization of all time, including even inventing laser shields. Unfortunately, the fall came when the sun screwed up their inventions basically, and a lot of the cryptic warnings was about a similar event happening again. Adam and Eve, if you go by what was said in the Assassin's Creed 2, were slaves essentially to this civilization..something like that, may have to look that one up again. But yeah..wish they'd do a game specifically on them, but the games just get so vague about them, and that's all we have..
These guys are a joke, Spartans didn't throw off children down the cliff, just because they were weak. To this day nobody found children's bones down the cliff. Only Adult bones. Also the story they told about Medusa being the victim was made by a Roman years after Rome conquered Greece, because he felt sad about her, so making her look hideous is fine.
Yeah, Spartans just handed off children to Spartan warriors to be "trained" (read raped) as a part of the agoge, since Spartan warriors weren't allowed to get married until they were 30.
The Spartans didn't have Lambdas on their shields in 480 BC. This practice originated with the Perioikoi in the 420s BC and was subsequently copied by the Homoioi. Ephialtes being a deformed Spartan exile is purely a creation of the graphic novel and film 300.
I Hope they read this, there waas a missinformation here, Athena cursing medusa with her body is of Roman writers to discredit her (same as erechne) in Greek mythology and Greek sources Medusa always looked liek this, she even had two sisters who looked like her.
You ruined the video by not giving the historians context. In the very first scene you have them talking about the accuracy of a mask for a fictitious in-game cult.
why they were shown almost only the things about mythology and legends? why didn't they show them freaking athen reconstructed?? i crazed away when you get maieuthicized by socrates the first time you meet him! that's what i want an historian to comment, not the fantasy aspects of the game!
"Was there a river in Thermopylae?" The battle took place on a narrow coastal path in Thermopylae called "The Hot Gates", so no, there wasn't a river, it was the Mediterranean sea. Something you would expect a historian reviewing a game that takes place in ancient Greece to know.
Why focus so much on the more fantasy side when you've got real historians? I want to see them talking about the architecture that Ubisoft created, how the NPCs act, etc.
Appreciate this new perspective with historians and mythology experts! They seem really dark on the actual details/context of the scenes they watch, but still, lots of cool insight! Also as a request, PLEASE bring back some martial artists to take a look at Sifu! The game drops on February 8th. We don't get many games primarily focused on martial arts, and I'd love to see Gemma, Noah, or RJ check it out!
Great reaction I loved this! A great idea would be historians react to Hades, absolutely love everything about Hades. Although it might be kinda difficult on what to show the historians exactly.
I'm at around 230 hours, spent around 180 on my first playthrough getting the good ending, and now on my second trying to be as much of an a**hole as I can so I can get the worst ending. Been wanting to chill in the Discovery Tour and learn all about ancient Greece, but always got distracted by the game itself.
Umm we don't say malaka all the time 😶 Im from Greece and the characters from mythology is pretty much close 😊 Not the part with alexios 😬 The part with Leonidas they didn't done it right He said to Herxes μολόν λαβέ And the wife of Leonidas said to him Defeated u will come on top of the sheild or Winner under the sheild she said it like that but is defrerent how we say it in Greece 🙂
Man.. watching whoever is playing just laying into these bosses and doing what appears to be absolutely little to no damage at all is kind of off putting lol This has to have been recorded on the highest difficulty perhaps? Otherwise why would these bosses and opponents be such massive damage sponges?
@@norma8686 that’s great to know. I’m about 50-60% of the way through AC valhalla but I’ve been also playing a bit of odyssey and origins as well, not nearly as far into those games. I like games that reward you with high damage capabilities when you put in the time to learn the systems and mechanics at work
@@loneshinobi2682 Do you like Valhalla? I put 70 hours into the game and I really regret the 70 euros I payed for the game. Now Odyssey...I love that game, I played it every day until HFW came out.
@@norma8686 I can only speak for myself but yes, I love valhalla. I’ve been having a blast with it and I’ve already sunk 150+ hours into it. Now admittedly that’s been over the course of a few months(I got it during a Black Friday sale near the end of 2021) but as I’ve said I’d wager I’m only about 50-60% of the way through the game
Yes, accuracy in a video game about two secret orders fighting down through the ages for the fate of the world using ancient, highly advanced technology from a lost civilization… there’s good accuracy and there’s pointless accuracy, which do you think this series applies too?
Weird how little of the game they were shown... I wish they would have shown them more historically accurate aspects of the game. Why did they do all the mythology monster scenes and nothing super meaningful....? Like I love the mythology but it's like all they showed. There are so many amazing scenes with famous individuals from Greek history that would have been way better to show them! Also not to mention all the content from the first blade DLC. Again I love the mythology but it is not fitting to only show that for the historian analysis. Also, the gameplay in general wasn't that great that was shown...
Cool video. I wish they would’ve showed them Herodotus around where they were showing the combat. I would love to see this on all of the games. I think Unity did the best job
Pretty sure the entire Athena (or Minerva as Ovid wrote) punishing Medusa with her being turned into a monster is written down by Ovid and thus more part of Roman mythology than Greek.
Some points for anyone wandering: Thermopylae was actually at the coast of the Greek world so the "river" was actually the gulf of Malis. The Greco-Persian wars didn't entirly set up for the peloponessian wars. A common mistake is the misunderstanding between the first and second Peloponnesian wars whcih sandwiched the Greco-Persian wars. There was actually a peace treaty that was signed between the Peloponnesian states and the attik area within at the beginning of the Greco-Persian wars. Ephialtes wasn't kicked out of Sparta. This is another misconception that stems from the movie 300. He was a local man from trachis (where the persians set up camp). Everything else from the mythology parts seemed right but these are just things i randomly picked up
This is a joke right? You have these historians from different backgrounds to react the literal worst ac game and not only that it’s the least believable one. Hey why not have them react to ac 1, 2, brotherhood or revelations or hell ac 3 that would be so much more fascinating than watching them react to dumb crappy epic Spartan game with super powers. SMH 🤦♂️
For being historians these guys can actually piece together the mythological stuff from the ac games really good! Especially that one guy assuming the pieces of Eden came from an earlier civilization! Great vid 👏
Just realized that guy played the game too 😂😅 still, great job explaining things to the other guy who wasn’t as informed, especially the cultists and stuff
My favorite thing about Greek mythology is that like 70% of stories start with Zeus being too horny for his own good
For real lol
Dammit Zeus, keep it in your tunic!
Zeus sees literally any living creature walking around, minding its own business
Zeus: *"THERE ARE NO WORDS ON GODS GREEN EARTH THAT CAN DESCRIBE HOW SPECTACULAR ERECT I AM!"*
It’s true anything with a hole Zeus with smash
then there is his jealous wife smh
I wish gamology would explain to the people reacting what the game is about. I wanna see their reaction to Adam and Eve being the first Humans and how the Mythologies are the "ones that came before"
Same, but it's also cool seeing them figure it out for themselves and piecing it together
Yeah it would be nice if they got like a quick debrief of what they are about to see. I’ve noticed it with other videos where alot of experts react go in blind and dont really understand what a game is about and misinterpreted some aspects.
Fortunately the historian on the right said he's played the game so he has that insight
Exactly
In gamology’s defense it wouldn’t be a genuine reaction if they did tell them stuff. Yea it would clear things up but their reaction wouldn’t be 100% so it’s give and take.
I wish they showed more of the historical figures like Herodotus
Love seeing these two talk about everything, the history, scenery and accuracy of some things in Assassin's Creed, would love to see that with the other games
Edit: wish they had shown the Steropes boss fight right after would've been funny
Yeah
two super cool high school teachers lol
I expected a Skallagrim-level meltdown at the lack of phalanxes and Leonidas literally throwing his shield away, breaking formation, and performing wu-shu spear dancing against his foes. These two clearly had other concerns. :-P
I think they held that because at the end of the day it is a video game and would be unorthodox to do in an Assassin's creed game no less.
Isn't the quote from the cave "and the cyclops dashed the men's skulls against the rock like puppies..."?
I remember being a child and thinking, dam, that's cool ;)
This game has several different stories to follow. There is one with the war. There's one where you meet Xerxes brother (DLC). There's the mythical aspect to it. There's the family part of it. In the political part of it, Alkibiades , Aristophanes, Brasidas, even Herodotos and Sokrates (and so many more)... I wish you guys had concentrated on that storyline with it LOL. There's A LOT going on.
Major missed opportunity not having them react to the real historical figures, like Sokrates
I was hoping you'd show them the actually historically accurate stuff. I don't need experts to go "yup the Minotaur was a myth and not real." Let them discuss the day to day life of the background of the game.
arguing about real life would nullify the whole game
Man, that was so much fun seeing two Greek mythology/history nerds just chillin' and chattin' about stuff that largely went over our heads.
Should see if you have them see the Assassins Creed from the first game. There’s a lot of historical figures and places in the original triad with their companion games. Not to mention Black flag with pirate history and lore.
Finally getting historians to react to AC but you choose the most fantasy one lol. I’m not complaining but I was hoping for Unity honestly since I’m biased towards it.
And people say learning about history is boring. This is amazing! (Them mentioning history, I know the game isn’t true to history.)
in fact this game is a pack of historical lies
Greek mythology is my favorite real world religious stuff because it just seems more... Real in many ways. Not so much how the gods came into being with some of them just being ocean ball juice or popping out of people's heads and weird stuff like that, but the portrayal of the gods as being very human like with flaws and insecurities and jealousy and punishing whimsically based on their anger, etc. It just feels very human of them, which I enjoy.
Then you have things like Christianity where absolutely nothing makes sense. It is full of contradictions and nonsense that make no sense, especially when done by a supposedly all knowing god. You can really tell from the narratives woven in the bible they were all made up by men of the era and focused on things men of the era cared about and saw. Not to mention being amalgamations of multiple other religions and their stories baked into it, and adapting more things as history went on. Modern christianity is nothing like it was originally, having adopted so many additional pagan beliefs and practices and holidays especially. It just feels like a poorly written book meant for kids to try to teach what the author thinks are good morals.
But the greek stuff all seems plausible. Zeus is horny and goes around having sex with women because that is exactly what some men would do if they had super powers. Even modern wealthy men have special contacts for sleeping with all sorts of different women, everything from prostitution to sex trafficking. Hera being mad as hell about all the bastards her husband kept making and wanting to murder them all, that is true to life, especially for that time period where women were INTENSELY jealous and hating of their spouse's kids that weren't theirs. And their stories make a lot more sense because they ARENT omniscient and they ARENT omnipotent, so if they make mistakes it makes sense. Unlike Christian god that supposedly knows everything but oops, created lucifer, created pride, gave him too much of it, knew he'd betray him and fall but did it anyway because.... Reasons? And then oops threw a tree in the garden of eden and said "dont touch it!" knowing that they would, like who the fuck does that? That is dickish behavior that makes no sense from a supposedly loving entity. Then everything that happened after adam and eve really doesn't matter at all until you get to Noah and his Ark because god apparently just decided the world had become too sinful (by the way, should've seen this coming and also made them that way..) and decided to murder everyone on earth except one family who then had to incestuously repopulate. So if god is all knowing and all powerful, why didn't he just START with Noah? Why even have a rough draft version 1 that he ends up erasing because he would've known how it ended. It's all just so stupid that, much like modern movies and tv shows, ridiculous and nonsensical things have to occur purely to justify the existence of the plot.
But anyway. Greek Mythology has always been my favorite because the gods are powerful, but not omnipotent, wise, but not omniscient, and they behave in very human-like ways. It's easy to visualize and imagine the various greek myths actually happening and could actually work in sort of a modern real world setting without "breaking anything". You could think of them like Marvel Super Heroes more or less, just a handful of people with super powers that exist in an otherwise unchanged world. Then you look over at shit like Hindu where its like "yeah, the earth is flat and is being carried through space on elephants and turtles" and you're like :| yeah okay buddy.
The only part of the mythology that doesn't sit well with me is all the weirdness with how some gods were created and some of them alien-style chest bursting out of each other and weird shit like that, but as far as religions go, it is the most plausible of them all.
“Do we get arges and steropes as well” they actually did add them later lol
Show them The OG AC games cause these new ones are very far from reality. Plus I think they should react to Ryse: Son Of Rome
There is a lot of the war in the game you just chose the four mythological beasts you fight to react to. Also the reason he's taking parts of the beasts is because the mythological beasts are explained as being precursor/isu constructs designed to protect artifacts with great power (it's all part of the assassin's creed lore as the the isu are an ancient race with advanced technology that went extinct but were viewed as gods to early humans)
Love these guys! Hope there are more coming!
5:37 "...after that Xerxes went home..."
Xerxes: My job here is done. Peace biatch.
My cousin got to do the principal photography for the project when he worked at Ubisoft. Pretty much predicted this would come out
Hearing them geek out about history is so fucking relatable honestly
I'm a historian so I'm forever critical with everything (life in general) but I've been a gamer longer sooo! Lol i appreciate the AC series (AC1 - Revelations, Odyssey and Origins)
2:56 In the game Pithyas are basicaly parrots for an organisation who wants to control the "known world"
I wish they explained who are the people who came before and the guy with two diffrent eyes is basically a mad prophet immortal, killer
Why do you show these historians reacting to the mythological aspects of the game? We would benefit more from their insight over the culture and visual details in the game.
if they are talking about real ancient greek culture they are obligated to say that kassandra is out of historical context as is free sexual behavior, this is not in favor of the politically correct agenda
Dude, i’m new to the channel but damn I love these vids. Thanks to all the experts. If you ever want any of the Batman Arkham games done, and you need a meat headed, 90’s child dork i’m your guy.
So much you could have shown them and you just want for the "alien tech" parts.
The reason the Pythia wasn't specific is because the cultists payed her off
They didn't even bother trying to hide the fact that they were reading a script for that other channel plug, huh?
One thing that grinds my gear about this video is how the guy playing the game for the footages is wasting the ability/stamina bar
This guys amazing pls bring them back.
What can be better than this? Just two bros talking mythology.
This is not sarcasm. I legit loved how they read the cue cards they really tried but man it didn't sound the best
Assassins creed is my favorite game thx for making this video😀👍
I had no idea Latin is taught in middle schools.
"men are bad" DUO IS BACK
Kinda sugar coated that Medusa story “has sex” “had his way with her”
Not quite synonyms for rape
These would be great if the experts had a little more background about the game. If they don't even know what the characters are and their backstory for context, it's harder to react to what the game got right, what they got wrong, and what parts are open for interpretation because the evidence isn't there or yet to be found.
Also would've been nice to see some ancient historians. He doesn't seem to know much about the ancient Greek world except for the myths, and even that seemed a stretch.
I wish they show them more of the real thing like, Alkibiates, Brasidas,sokrates and other acurate character than the mythologic creatures
Truee
Not exciting enough for a clickbait video, also guy on the left refused to listen to the context from the one on the right
@@ryankirkpatrick3771 perhaps because the one on the right is influenced by its excited identity and does not take into account the ancient culture or the laws that were in force at that time, against such a free identity, if they had had to talk about ``some of quest`` the two would have quarreled
Loved this video. I just wish they showed the “fake Minotaur” of Leiandros to contrast with the one shown in this video. Would have been fun to see their reaction.
And the "Grand Mino-tour" too!
Fake? You're mistaken, that was 100% definitely a mighty Minotaur!
@@jdenton1337 cate for some minotaur hoof juice? Only 200 drachmae!
It's awesome to finally see historians reacting to Assassin's Creed 😄✌
@@will360yt i think he was making a jab at them
As a semi historian myself I can only agree 😀 All I need now is historians and more sword fight masters reacting to Kingdome Come Deliverance 😀
There are other historians reacted to other Assassin's Creed before. You should check those as well.
That's not assassin's creed
@@BrightHero_Ultimato kinda is, kinda isn't lmao.
Gamology, you know this means we want them to basically react to every assassins creed game if possible lol. Its nice to see historians react and give there opinion on one of the best history games franchise there is
Maybe a little bit downhill after the ezio saga, or the one who simulate him in animus (i can't remember his name, it's been so long after my last gameplay)
@@TheTheMyth Desmonds arc
It would be nice to make them react to Unity’s French Revolution or Syndicate’s Victorian Era.
Maybe different historians, don't know if their expertise is strictly ancient Greek or if it's more than just that.
No thats a waste of time
Fun fact: The mythological creatures from AC Odyssey are in fact, abominations created by Project Olympus, an attempt from the Isu ( aka Those Who Came Before ) to harness and control the evolutive properties of the Apples of Eden.
Yes, they're basically here to create game hype, more than historical accuracy at anything. It would have been more interesting to have them react to the settings, the places, the political/historical figures etc. Everyone knows that the boss fights, weapons and armors in AC games are not accurate, they've never been and the devs never pretended they were.
About Pythia - yeah, in this game she is basically cultists' puppet, so she is telling everyone what they want her too tell
12:55 if only they showed them the historical figures/places. That would've been more entertaining to see their reaction.
Being an avid fan of Classic Civilizations, I absolutely LOVED this react. Both of them have a really great chemistry and understand the mythology aspect and the fact that it's just a game. From the little details to the full on historical details and myths, it was amazing! If any of them know about Egyptian Mythology and Ancient Egypt a reaction to AC Origins would be neat!
Main Errors : The Λ was not adopted and standartised to every spartan shield till the Peloponnesean war .
The spartans didnt call their city Lakedaimonia but the whole region of Sparta from the area of Lakonia , the city was called Sparta by them and the rest of the world .
Thermopylae is located near the North Evoian Bay (and at that time compared to now it was even nearer which is why the path was narrow and used by the Spartans in the first place , so what you see is a sea where the Persians land their ships , not a river/lake .
The army of Xerxes in Thermopylae was not 1 million(thats an exaggerated myth) but 180000-300000 .
Ephialtes was not deformed nor a spartan but from the land of Malis , a region in the borders of Thessaly at the time .
Also not a single comment was made for the vambraces that everyone seems to wear in the game .
Are we sure that these guys are historians and didnt just saw 300 and said yes now I am qualified to spread my knowledge to the world??
well spoke brother .also they didnt comment about how Leonidas throw his shield on the the battle of Thermopolis intro and how important is the shield on the the greek warfare. no Greek threw his shield unless he dies
they also critisized very like mocking Herodotus writing. The father of history... Maybe i didnt understand correctly what he said about him
amazons werent greek women were scythians originaly tribes that contact with hellenic world and some of them hellenized and had greek names by settle on greek populated areas like Anatolia, Pontus , Thrace , Lesbos island
the guy that said he played the game said that the first civilazation artifacts are form the early bronze age people... yeah sure historian...
@@alekoschill9486 😎
Probably a little late, but they also talked about the incorrect version of Medusa’s story. In the correct story, Medusa was always a gorgon, and was eventually killed by Perseus. The version where Athena turned Medusa into a gorgon is a version written by (I forgot his name) to spite Greece because he was kicked out, so he wrote stories insulting the Greek Gods
greek here actually we greeks have a lot of similarities in the looks and traditions from the middle east because we lived there for almost 2000 years we are more similar to them than the europeans
I remember getting most of my history lessons from playing the old Assassin's Creed games. It's great to see that historians are finally doing their reactions about it 😂
Love these react videos, just wish they showed more of the actual history and characters involved in the peloponnesian war to see the experts reactions (for example King Archidamus, Brasidas, Alkibiades, Perikles, etc). But it's still a pretty great video! ;)
If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure when Leonidas went to the Oracle he was actually told something along the lines that in order for Greece to be free (or to achieve victory) a King had to die or something similar along those lines.
According to Herodotus yes,
Because I’m the Spartan oligarchy there were two kings, one as head of government while the other could act as general in war, meaning if one was lucky enough to have a warriors death then the political vaccum they left wouldn’t be so dire
@@A-G-A-G Ooohhh, for some reason I thought there were three kings. Not sure where I picked up that notion but I appreciate the history tidbit.
Next one: Kim Jong Un reacts to Fallout
There’s so much historical elements missing from this video. There’s literally famous figures like Socrates they could’ve reacted to.
Okay, though fictional, I want to explain something about the First Civilization, which in some other games is known as the Precursor Civilizations. They were a race of god-like beings that were on this planet before any of us, and was the most advanced civilization of all time, including even inventing laser shields. Unfortunately, the fall came when the sun screwed up their inventions basically, and a lot of the cryptic warnings was about a similar event happening again. Adam and Eve, if you go by what was said in the Assassin's Creed 2, were slaves essentially to this civilization..something like that, may have to look that one up again. But yeah..wish they'd do a game specifically on them, but the games just get so vague about them, and that's all we have..
I'm glad that these guys are back to react to Ancient Greek history and Mythology. I hope they do a part two.
These guys are a joke, Spartans didn't throw off children down the cliff, just because they were weak. To this day nobody found children's bones down the cliff. Only Adult bones. Also the story they told about Medusa being the victim was made by a Roman years after Rome conquered Greece, because he felt sad about her, so making her look hideous is fine.
Yeah, Spartans just handed off children to Spartan warriors to be "trained" (read raped) as a part of the agoge, since Spartan warriors weren't allowed to get married until they were 30.
> Historians react to Assassin's Creed Odyssey
>Gamology only shows them the prologue and a bunch of Isu stuff.
Come on...
Yeah fr who’s in charge for this shit what a waste of opportunity
The Spartans didn't have Lambdas on their shields in 480 BC. This practice originated with the Perioikoi in the 420s BC and was subsequently copied by the Homoioi.
Ephialtes being a deformed Spartan exile is purely a creation of the graphic novel and film 300.
What did they have on their shields instead at the time?
@@altechelghanforever9906 Individual family crests, mythological monsters, etc, same any other polis' hoplites.
@@Nomad416 True
They bounce off each other so well
Love to see these guys in more videos!
I love these two historians. Bring 'em back for more!
please just give them fucking context on the game
True
Majority of locations in this game did exist in real life. There's a history mode that lets you explore everywhere in greece and learn about it.
I Hope they read this, there waas a missinformation here, Athena cursing medusa with her body is of Roman writers to discredit her (same as erechne) in Greek mythology and Greek sources Medusa always looked liek this, she even had two sisters who looked like her.
You ruined the video by not giving the historians context. In the very first scene you have them talking about the accuracy of a mask for a fictitious in-game cult.
Please Do Historian react to Assassin's creed 1 and Assassin's creed Revelations
why they were shown almost only the things about mythology and legends? why didn't they show them freaking athen reconstructed?? i crazed away when you get maieuthicized by socrates the first time you meet him! that's what i want an historian to comment, not the fantasy aspects of the game!
"Was there a river in Thermopylae?" The battle took place on a narrow coastal path in Thermopylae called "The Hot Gates", so no, there wasn't a river, it was the Mediterranean sea. Something you would expect a historian reviewing a game that takes place in ancient Greece to know.
I think you'll find that sea is the Aegean Sea actually.
Confidently incorrect
Show some assassins creed to these guys that explains the Isu or the apple
that was super cool! maybe also reactions on the DLC content for this or other AC games with historians, i would love it all!
Why focus so much on the more fantasy side when you've got real historians? I want to see them talking about the architecture that Ubisoft created, how the NPCs act, etc.
Appreciate this new perspective with historians and mythology experts! They seem really dark on the actual details/context of the scenes they watch, but still, lots of cool insight!
Also as a request, PLEASE bring back some martial artists to take a look at Sifu! The game drops on February 8th. We don't get many games primarily focused on martial arts, and I'd love to see Gemma, Noah, or RJ check it out!
Great reaction I loved this! A great idea would be historians react to Hades, absolutely love everything about Hades. Although it might be kinda difficult on what to show the historians exactly.
yeah they mentioned the furies, would be fun - not sure what to show either
These two were fantastic! Hope to see them do other Assassin's Creed games too!
perfect timing.
i just have over 109 hours playing this game.
i still haven't completed the game yet.
Good luck, I had 250 hours and didn't even do the Atlantis dlc, I couldn't take any more and quit without starting it. True story.
I'm at around 230 hours, spent around 180 on my first playthrough getting the good ending, and now on my second trying to be as much of an a**hole as I can so I can get the worst ending. Been wanting to chill in the Discovery Tour and learn all about ancient Greece, but always got distracted by the game itself.
Mythical stuff aside I love these games for how historically accurate they try to be.
Emphasis on the word try.
Facts
Yes a mercenary would never use a shield.
@@ibrahimbinimran4320 why
@Winged One I thought it was obvious I was being sarcastic(this is my alt BTW cause I forgot the other accounts login)
They should react to Black flag or Syndicate
Umm we don't say malaka all the time 😶
Im from Greece and the characters from mythology is pretty much close 😊
Not the part with alexios 😬
The part with Leonidas they didn't done it right
He said to Herxes μολόν λαβέ
And the wife of Leonidas said to him
Defeated u will come on top of the sheild or Winner under the sheild she said it like that but is defrerent how we say it in Greece 🙂
exactly, Alexios had to embody Xenophon and the Spartan moral ethics of that time which was very different from what they show
Didn't know two high-school teachers now count as "historians". Would've been more interesting asking PhDs on the topic
it would have been interesting to invite a Greek historian and a Greek archaeologist, they would have put everything back in its rightful place
Man.. watching whoever is playing just laying into these bosses and doing what appears to be absolutely little to no damage at all is kind of off putting lol
This has to have been recorded on the highest difficulty perhaps? Otherwise why would these bosses and opponents be such massive damage sponges?
I play on the highest difficulty and I one shot Medusa with one overpower attack. You can be a god in this game if you know how to make a build.
@@norma8686 that’s great to know. I’m about 50-60% of the way through AC valhalla but I’ve been also playing a bit of odyssey and origins as well, not nearly as far into those games.
I like games that reward you with high damage capabilities when you put in the time to learn the systems and mechanics at work
@@loneshinobi2682 Do you like Valhalla? I put 70 hours into the game and I really regret the 70 euros I payed for the game. Now Odyssey...I love that game, I played it every day until HFW came out.
@@norma8686 I can only speak for myself but yes, I love valhalla. I’ve been having a blast with it and I’ve already sunk 150+ hours into it. Now admittedly that’s been over the course of a few months(I got it during a Black Friday sale near the end of 2021) but as I’ve said I’d wager I’m only about 50-60% of the way through the game
@@loneshinobi2682The end of the game is kinda...underwelming, leaves you thinking "is that really it?"
Would be cool to see historians react to the AC games that actually cared about historical accuracy
Yes, accuracy in a video game about two secret orders fighting down through the ages for the fate of the world using ancient, highly advanced technology from a lost civilization… there’s good accuracy and there’s pointless accuracy, which do you think this series applies too?
yes especially from the cultural point of view of the time, but I bet they don't, otherwise ubisoft will have to throw the game in the trash
Weird how little of the game they were shown... I wish they would have shown them more historically accurate aspects of the game. Why did they do all the mythology monster scenes and nothing super meaningful....? Like I love the mythology but it's like all they showed. There are so many amazing scenes with famous individuals from Greek history that would have been way better to show them! Also not to mention all the content from the first blade DLC. Again I love the mythology but it is not fitting to only show that for the historian analysis. Also, the gameplay in general wasn't that great that was shown...
Cool video. I wish they would’ve showed them Herodotus around where they were showing the combat. I would love to see this on all of the games. I think Unity did the best job
Those guys look like they would be great to have around. If I ever got someone like them, they would be in my top 10 friends list from day 1.
Pretty sure the entire Athena (or Minerva as Ovid wrote) punishing Medusa with her being turned into a monster is written down by Ovid and thus more part of Roman mythology than Greek.
Real Gods react to God of War
Happy that their story is more accurate than the 300 bullsh!t
don't believe it, this game is very inaccurate
Asking teachers to promote video game content to young people and also say “having fun while learning” is incredibly short sighted
like learning historical lies from a video game
Wow am I early
Lolol I can NOT believe you guys put them through doing that ad read in the beginning 🤦🏼♀️
I would have liked if they had showed the different scenography (markets, sculptures, ports, palaces)
Being that Kassandra is the cannon protagonist of the game, i wonder what they think of the story arc where she competes in the Olympics....
exactly but if they talk about her, they will have to explain 90% of the bullshit told in the game and their propaganda agenda does not allow it
Literally waited years for you guys to do this 1. Plz do AC origins
Some points for anyone wandering: Thermopylae was actually at the coast of the Greek world so the "river" was actually the gulf of Malis. The Greco-Persian wars didn't entirly set up for the peloponessian wars. A common mistake is the misunderstanding between the first and second Peloponnesian wars whcih sandwiched the Greco-Persian wars. There was actually a peace treaty that was signed between the Peloponnesian states and the attik area within at the beginning of the Greco-Persian wars. Ephialtes wasn't kicked out of Sparta. This is another misconception that stems from the movie 300. He was a local man from trachis (where the persians set up camp). Everything else from the mythology parts seemed right but these are just things i randomly picked up
We who are the first 300 to view stand ready. HUAH.
they should show them the representation of the city of Athenas, it's the most magnificent city i've ever seen in a game.
But why did you choose the WORST game of the franchise?
Have them react to Immortals Fenyx Rising another great game with Greek mythology.
This is a joke right? You have these historians from different backgrounds to react the literal worst ac game and not only that it’s the least believable one. Hey why not have them react to ac 1, 2, brotherhood or revelations or hell ac 3 that would be so much more fascinating than watching them react to dumb crappy epic Spartan game with super powers. SMH 🤦♂️
For being historians these guys can actually piece together the mythological stuff from the ac games really good! Especially that one guy assuming the pieces of Eden came from an earlier civilization! Great vid 👏
Just realized that guy played the game too 😂😅 still, great job explaining things to the other guy who wasn’t as informed, especially the cultists and stuff
I feel like they should rename the Assassin's Creed series. It's not been about assassining for a long time. lol
How many cars do I have to steal in Grand Theft Auto until the title is acceptable?