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  • An Archaeologist Reacts to Assassin's Creed Odyssey (Complete) | Cincinnati Art Museum
    Kathleen Lynch from the University of Cincinnati's Classics Department joins us to look at Assassin's Creed Odyssey.
    NOTE: Earlier uploads of parts 1 and 2 of this video were unfortunately cut-off suddenly at the end. This complete version combines both videos and the missing footage.
    Part 1: • An Archaeologist React...
    Part 2: • An Archaeologist React...

Комментарии • 582

  • @cincinnatiartmuseum
    @cincinnatiartmuseum  3 года назад +685

    Kathleen was responding to a pre-recorded video that Russell made (before knowing what she would comment on), which is why it seems like he is rushing past things. We won't make that mistake again!

    • @bereniceochoa1446
      @bereniceochoa1446 3 года назад +70

      I would love to see more of her commenting the game!

    • @Rezgate
      @Rezgate 3 года назад +14

      Can hardly notice. This is awesome

    • @gufu21
      @gufu21 3 года назад +22

      Ah, that makes sense. Also, thanks for explaining!

    • @dr.northstar_
      @dr.northstar_ 3 года назад +26

      Yeah would really like if she could see more of the game, recorded at a speed that gives her a chance to be more in depth & can really get a good look at everything. This would be a cool series!

    • @shockvalue3835
      @shockvalue3835 3 года назад +6

      Livestream

  • @yukikodavila4907
    @yukikodavila4907 3 года назад +871

    I really like how excited she gets when seeing certain things. I have a thousand hours into playing this game so far. People laugh when they ask how my day was and I reply "I spent some time visiting ancient Greece". I play games like this because I am disabled and rarely physically leave my small apartment. Thanks for making such a great game that allows me to continue being an adventurer.

    • @Blackd0nuts
      @Blackd0nuts 3 года назад +26

      When I pitched the game to some friends (during lockdown last year) I said: the game is great for this and this reason but it's also free vacation to Greece!

    • @gold333
      @gold333 3 года назад +28

      A thousand?????? Wow. I thought I was up there with 400 hours. This game is truly a dream for Ancient Greece lovers.

    • @yukikodavila4907
      @yukikodavila4907 3 года назад +22

      @@gold333 Thanks, funny thing is I knew absolutely nothing about Greek history when I started the game. Since then I have watched a ton of documentaries to better understand it. I am still amazed by things I see in the game.

    • @kaes6244
      @kaes6244 3 года назад +10

      Yeah it's an amazing game and in my opinion it's better than AC Valhalla

    • @jcbuttons
      @jcbuttons 3 года назад +4

      1000?!! So impressed!! I’m at 250 now and finishing up the last DLC. Then I’m gonna start over haha

  • @jimjamsim
    @jimjamsim 3 года назад +167

    Seeing people talk about things that they're so passionate and excited about makes the happy chemicals in my brain explode

  • @waltturner1970
    @waltturner1970 3 года назад +3

    Great premise for a video! Hope you do more like this, she was awesome! I don't remember if Odessy had the option but origins has the museum/exploration option. Seeing experts go into more detail or summarize those or confirm it would be fun to watch. Thanks again to both of you for doing this!

  • @rudyjackson8012
    @rudyjackson8012 3 года назад

    Thank you so much for welcoming her to provide her scholarly and experiential insights. Assassin‘s Creed: Odyssey is my favorite open-world, RPG, and storyline game. It is immersive, so colorful, with superb characters, plot, arcs, and its influences my desire to visit and tour Greece!

  • @VoxFelis
    @VoxFelis 3 года назад

    This should be a live stream. Could listen to this lady for hours. Love it!

  • @subtleaggro
    @subtleaggro 3 года назад +2

    This was really interesting, I would love to see a whole series of these videos. 👍

  • @georgemusic1719
    @georgemusic1719 3 года назад

    Please get Kathleen to come back to look at more of Odyssey! I could literally watch this content for hours

  • @Red-fg9qr
    @Red-fg9qr 3 года назад

    That's so interesting :O so I guess they did get people that know about the details to lead the artists / devs. that's good to know even if it's not 100% accurate (it's a game, not google maps). I appreciate the series even more now.

  • @McTripsRipz
    @McTripsRipz Год назад

    Very cool. I admire her passion and intelligence.

  • @nik0stat
    @nik0stat 3 года назад

    This is where western civilisation was born. We owe a lot to the Athenians for what they offered to humanity. One can conceive the importance of their inventions and innovations just by simply standing in front of the columns of Parthenon in Acropolis today. It is like travelling back in time, thousands of years ago, an astonishing experience everyone should aim for at least once in a lifetime

  • @GCAT01Living
    @GCAT01Living 3 года назад

    Would love to see an Egyptologist analyze Origins.

  • @markgreen5153
    @markgreen5153 3 года назад

    Kathleen is now a gamer

  • @kennethburridge862
    @kennethburridge862 3 года назад

    You really should do more of this. First of all it is interesting and fun, but if you want to promote your site ...all you gotta do is look at amount of attention it got.

  • @bmaxime8771
    @bmaxime8771 3 года назад +728

    As a ubisoft 3d artist i can confirm, we do a whole lot of research :)

    • @phyros27
      @phyros27 3 года назад +80

      You guys are amazing! Thank you and the team for providing us with such marvelous games!

    • @kzng2403
      @kzng2403 3 года назад +20

      Great job you guys have done, for bring us a vivid image of Ancient Greece and a wonderful travelling simulator.

    • @MORC
      @MORC 3 года назад +15

      It shows, it really does, thanks for all the fun!

    • @mdeboer563
      @mdeboer563 3 года назад +16

      Couldn't Ubisoft hire someone like her to go over the detials with the team?

    • @breakdancinfool
      @breakdancinfool 3 года назад +7

      And we LOVE you for it! :)

  • @MM-kq6fe
    @MM-kq6fe 3 года назад +583

    When I played Odyssey I always had my friend who is a Greek and Latin philologist explain things to me on Discord. He didn't know this game existed and when I told him I was playing a game on Ancient Greece he was SO interested. I showed him the game and he was absolutely amazed. He would ask me every now and then "where are you now?" and then he would tell me stories or myths about the places I was visiting in game. It was a cool experience haha

    •  3 года назад +6

      Whoa that's great! I wish I had that kind of experience, I just wondered about buildings.

    • @CNSninja
      @CNSninja 3 года назад +14

      God, I so envy that. That would be so awesome. I'm replaying Odyssey right now so I think I'm gonna have to start randomly pausing the game to look up myths and stories from whatever area I'm in at the moment. Still, it would be way cooler to hear it from a professional who knows all the nuances and reasons why some stories are more interesting or special than others and can filter them in that way.

    • @CNSninja
      @CNSninja 3 года назад +3

      @ The buildings are absolutely exceptional. I love the myths and stories from this era but say what you will about myths and stories, some of the major physical structures from the era still stand today (which is incredible in and of itself,) and still exist in modern life and affect modern people in the region, unlike a lot of the myths and stories-many of which, I'm sure, have been forgotten to time.

    • @daddyleon
      @daddyleon 3 года назад +2

      *+M M* I'm...jealous now, that sounds like a great experience!
      You two could've, should've made a series of this, posted it, monetized it, etc.

    • @gold333
      @gold333 3 года назад +3

      @@CNSninja read Pausanias as you visit these places. The game really needs to be played with a tablet and wikipedia next to it

  • @flavio_spqr
    @flavio_spqr 3 года назад +1001

    Being an archaeologist myself, and History nerd in general, and having played Assassin's Creed since the very first one, Origins and Odyssey blew me away. The detail is just nuts, and the overall accuracy shows a lot of historical research went into this (Hollywood take a note on how it's done).

    • @martinvranovsky7085
      @martinvranovsky7085 3 года назад +30

      I wish they hadn't dropped the ball so hard on weapons and armour, though... it's a pity, especially in those two games and in Valhalla.

    • @flavio_spqr
      @flavio_spqr 3 года назад +16

      @@martinvranovsky7085 I guess these 3 last games do put much more emphasis on fighting than previously on the franchise, rather than stealth. Good point!

    • @ikninja1hd
      @ikninja1hd 3 года назад +8

      Odyssey feels very Hollywood

    • @antonispangalos
      @antonispangalos 3 года назад +8

      Just visit in game Crete, the lack of detail and historical accuracy will blow you right back.

    • @henryviii2091
      @henryviii2091 3 года назад +25

      @@martinvranovsky7085 Valhalla is a total shit show when it comes to accuracy from every perspective.

  • @Stevehendryckx
    @Stevehendryckx 3 года назад +510

    It would be great to have like an archaeologist commentary that you could switch on while playing the game.

    • @RumiNyx
      @RumiNyx 3 года назад +42

      Theres the tour mode, though im not sure what its like vs just playing the game

    • @araisikewai
      @araisikewai 3 года назад +55

      There's tour mode. It drops you in one location, gives you the path to follow with several interactive points along the path where they give you the explanation.
      There's probably dozens of tour paths in the game located all over Greece.
      It's very much like a virtual museum.

    • @Gigi-fv9ky
      @Gigi-fv9ky 3 года назад +42

      The discovery tour mode blew me away. I kept thinking how I would have loved that in college and what a great time we are living in that today's students have resources like that

    • @hecdavid11
      @hecdavid11 3 года назад +19

      @@Gigi-fv9ky When they introduced Discovery Tour Mode in Origins I fell in love with it. Ubisoft could have their research team dedicate to making this kind of virtual tours to make History classes 1000x more interesting

    • @exodus4033
      @exodus4033 3 года назад +6

      That's what the discovery mode is for. Although you don't get an archeologist, you get a Greek scholar to explain everything all over the map, and the entire map is open from the beginning for fast travel.

  • @Kobbz
    @Kobbz 3 года назад +169

    This was really intresting! But imagine her playing the game, it would take her probably 1000 hours to finish the main story lol

    • @Gigi-fv9ky
      @Gigi-fv9ky 3 года назад +18

      I was a classics major and put 180 hours in exploring before I got bored with repetitive tasks. This makes me want to play again.

    • @willmosse3684
      @willmosse3684 11 месяцев назад +5

      Lol - I’ve never been a gamer, but at 45 years old, I just started this today. I’m blown away, I have to say. I have only done the Acropolis tour that they go through in this video, that’s it. But it says it should take 20-25 mins. It took me 95 mins because I wanted to stop and look at everything. Got a feeling the game will take me 180hrs instead of 60 😂

  • @JollyBotox
    @JollyBotox 3 года назад +333

    Make more videos with her or other specialists walking through different locations & islands in the game.

    • @andyvale2467
      @andyvale2467 3 года назад +9

      I agree, would definitely watch more.

    • @harryhot
      @harryhot 3 года назад +1

      @@andyvale2467 another vote for more Kathleen Lynch

  • @gufu21
    @gufu21 3 года назад +282

    I would definitely watch more of her commenting on Assassin's Creed: Odyssey. (Especially if you dropped a note to Russell to not rush by or look away from something she's commenting on. It'd be even better if Kathleen could drive, but I'll understand if she doesn't quite feel comfortable moving with the controller.)

    • @zoltanszaszi2264
      @zoltanszaszi2264 3 года назад +4

      Keyboard and mouse, five minutes to learn, and then she can go on the discovery tour and explain us stuff.

    • @Razbewy
      @Razbewy 3 года назад +5

      yeah, make her a tour guide... who knows she might know a secret passage!

  • @fiachramacaodha1260
    @fiachramacaodha1260 3 года назад +78

    I need to see the reaction of her friend seeing his dissertation work in a best selling video game, if he doesn't already know.

  • @randomuser6175
    @randomuser6175 3 года назад +49

    I love how excited she is :) history is her passion that's for sure

  • @j0hn318
    @j0hn318 3 года назад +46

    the templars are looking for you lady... you know to much

    • @mazlanmohamat5724
      @mazlanmohamat5724 3 года назад

      ahhahahahhhahaanahahahah

    • @ast3663
      @ast3663 7 месяцев назад

      'she is dangerous..she will get in our way..she must be a spartan agent..we will send two lvl 99 merchs after her'

  • @danielebarba2559
    @danielebarba2559 3 года назад +84

    One of the most beautiful games I have ever played!

    • @ebarragan
      @ebarragan 3 года назад +6

      same here!

    • @lakhjeetsinghbadesha4654
      @lakhjeetsinghbadesha4654 3 года назад +2

      Play Witcher 3

    • @martinrobinson936
      @martinrobinson936 3 года назад +3

      I agree, now I thought the same when I played origins (Egypt has always been a fascination of mine, never Greece). But definitely Greece was beautifully recreated.

    • @devnull5098
      @devnull5098 3 года назад +8

      @@lakhjeetsinghbadesha4654 TW3 doesn't compare, unfortunately.

    • @1rtwilson
      @1rtwilson 3 года назад

      @@devnull5098 lol I beg to differ, each to their own I guess. Odyssey does do a great job of recreating Ancient Greece and is very well done in terms of being historically accurate (as mentioned in this video), but it lacks depth outside the main story though and doesn't have that same 'atmosphere' as in TW3. But I guess it's down to personal opinion.

  • @bilbobaggins7527
    @bilbobaggins7527 3 года назад +116

    They should redo this with live game play, allowing her to take her time explaining things...
    if she has the time, they could make this into a series...there is so much history in this game and I would love to her commentary on it.

    • @wontonjon7041
      @wontonjon7041 3 года назад +7

      Better yet, give her the controller and let her explore at her own pace and explain as she goes along. And if they’re showing her the game on a save that has everything unlocked, maybe let her customize Alexios/Kassandra’s outfit.

    • @bioticgod
      @bioticgod 3 года назад +4

      @@wontonjon7041 Giving her the controller may not be a good idea. Some people are so disconnected from video games that they can't even walk and look around correctly

    • @AtticTapes14
      @AtticTapes14 Год назад

      This is it

    • @AtticTapes14
      @AtticTapes14 Год назад

      That is live gameplay

  • @jamesmrichardson4708
    @jamesmrichardson4708 3 года назад +172

    The lore of the Assassin's Creed games are that the player is "experiencing" the world via their ancestor's point of view through mitochondria memory accessed by a fictional device call the Animus. I like to think the "Disney" view of the worlds, the inaccuracies and compressed timelines are caused by memory bleed from all the other data stored in our mitochondria through the millennia. It helps with immersion and fills the gaps and supports the presence of some of the fantastical creatures in some of the games etc. Just my humble opinion. I'd be elated if I were a historian to see the ancient world as it might have been, in such detail and care.

    • @gorazdvahen492
      @gorazdvahen492 3 года назад +8

      For me, however, the whole "blood memory" aspect only kills the immersion, but at least Origins and Odyssey gave up on constantly reminding you that you are not playing a game, but playing a character playing a game... All I want is a holodeck, I need no ancient mystery nonsense.

    • @dybiosol
      @dybiosol 3 года назад +6

      @@gorazdvahen492 You're the first person who I've seen that says the "present-day Animus sections" are killing the immersion lol. I would assume you prefer the open-world RPGs over the linear storylined AC games from the past? I prefer a little bit of both ngl. Ive also liked games like AC 2 and I've also liked the evolution towards Valhalla type gameplay so it's just the lore that I generally care about in the end anyway.

    • @godakuri5944
      @godakuri5944 3 года назад +3

      @@dybiosol I agree with you, a little bit of both would be ideal. But IMO the lore is more important and the identity of AC games, although Odyssey complete threw that out the window

    • @finq0997
      @finq0997 3 года назад +8

      @@dybiosol I'd much prefer that they'd do away with all the futuristic nonsense and just let us, for example, play an Assassins during the crusades or a viking raider during the 800's. I also think that it kills the immersion, but also adds nothing to the overall story or game.
      That being said, I still enjoyed Valhalla a lot and I'm currently playing Origins, which seems to be really good as well.

    • @gorazdvahen492
      @gorazdvahen492 3 года назад +5

      @@dybiosol It is a personal preference, of course. I for one find that playing as Bayek for several hours and then suddenly playing as Layla and finding his grave breaks the immersion somewhat. Still better than in previous games, but still tedious and irrelevant. When I played Horizon Zero Dawn it never switched to another time when another character is experiencing Aloy's story through some "blood memory". But as I said, it is personal preference. Me, I just want the time travel. I bought Unity on sale and ignore the story, I just walk through the revolutionary Paris...

  • @paulhodgins4744
    @paulhodgins4744 3 года назад +37

    i thought for sure as the colossal athena statue was coming into view she would laugh at how ridiculously exaggerated it was, but no! that thing actually existed. please make more odyssey videos with her

    • @davidwhitworth5724
      @davidwhitworth5724 3 года назад +3

      I went to the Archaeological Museum of Kalymnos. One of the exhibits is a bronze foot and leg and I was shocked at its size and detail. Out of hundreds of museums I have been to, it is the one exhibit I remember.

  • @zamurai_the_producer
    @zamurai_the_producer 3 года назад +36

    Give 10 hours of this immediately, this was amazing!!

  • @ConnorEllisMusic
    @ConnorEllisMusic 3 года назад +50

    Could've just uploaded this in the first place.

    • @sordel5866
      @sordel5866 3 года назад +2

      Yes, the part breaks in the two-part version are terrible.

    • @Gigi-fv9ky
      @Gigi-fv9ky 3 года назад +1

      Agree

  • @302Diane
    @302Diane 3 года назад +23

    You know, if they had someone like her working with the programmers and modelers to make a "game" which was just an accurate model of Athens or Rome or Thebes, and all you did was explore it with her commentary behind it, I'd pay $60 for it.

    • @OfficialPizza
      @OfficialPizza 3 года назад

      this is a genuinely brilliant idea for a game mode. i'd pay $60 for just that DLC, lol

    • @ninjadodovideos
      @ninjadodovideos 3 года назад +1

      That's pretty much what the Discovery Tour mode is, which you can also get separately if you don't care about the rest of the game. ruclips.net/video/uh4Iy-p943M/видео.html

  • @matthewsharayko7463
    @matthewsharayko7463 3 года назад +98

    Odyssey was the first Assasin's Creed game I played and I LOVED how historically accurate the game is. It would be awesome to have more of these walkthrough videos for different locations with an archaeologist.

    • @matthewsharayko7463
      @matthewsharayko7463 3 года назад +7

      @onoma eponimo tell me you don't know how to spell and subsequently make a logical argument without telling me you can't spell and subsequently make a logical argument.

    • @matthewsharayko7463
      @matthewsharayko7463 3 года назад +9

      @onoma eponimo Hey man. If you want to argue that the game is not historically accurate at all, that’s fine. Go ahead and tell us why you think so. But don’t get butthurt when someone calls you out for being a troll in the first place. Take care man.

    • @matthewsharayko7463
      @matthewsharayko7463 3 года назад +6

      @onoma eponimo lol. How old are you, friend, that you've managed to learn sooo much history but still can't spell for shite? I'll wait ;)

    • @gray2865
      @gray2865 3 года назад

      @@matthewsharayko7463 I think he/she was trying to say that it is not historically accurate due to the main character having super powers and some characters that don’t exist but hey this is at least the MOST accurate we can have so I’m not complaining.

    • @matthewsharayko7463
      @matthewsharayko7463 3 года назад +9

      @@gray2865 Maybe, lol. But it goes without saying that nothing in this video is reacting to superpowers or fictional characters. It's about the buildings, plants, artwork, clothing-things that would have required historical research to replicate in a video game.

  • @Itwasalwaysme_Noone
    @Itwasalwaysme_Noone 3 года назад +69

    Kathleen said that she really needs to see more.
    SO SHOW HER MORE!! (and then show it to us)
    Thank you very much for the video.

  • @tonylanda6654
    @tonylanda6654 3 года назад +24

    Great takes. She should get her own RUclips channel.

  • @arniperez1140
    @arniperez1140 3 года назад +16

    There is a tour mode in the game named Discovery Tour, they should try it in this format and make more videos like this. It would be awesome to see that.

    • @andreic.3204
      @andreic.3204 3 года назад +2

      Yes! Scrolled too much for this. Discovery tour is also for Egypt in AC Origins

  • @MauMenzori
    @MauMenzori 3 года назад +67

    This was amazing. Please call Kathleen again to react to the Atlantis and Elysium DLCs too. We would pick the fantasy fan part of her, and see how she could criticize this imaginative part of the game, too. Very instructional video here. Thanks.

    • @isasheep
      @isasheep 3 года назад +4

      I would love to see her reaction to Atlantis!

    • @derek400004
      @derek400004 3 года назад +2

      those DLCs were freaking terrible sci-fi shit.

    • @MauMenzori
      @MauMenzori 3 года назад +4

      @@derek400004 Its a matter of taste, friend. I liked it, so... what if she wants to react to that to? Skip that one video, and move on with your life.

    • @XYZ-ot2yi
      @XYZ-ot2yi 3 года назад +1

      @@derek400004 what a fucking manchiild 😂😂😂

    • @oskarandersson3777
      @oskarandersson3777 3 года назад

      @@derek400004 just like the whole Ac series?

  • @CammyWINS
    @CammyWINS 3 года назад +19

    I wish I could either watch her play the game or play it with her near me, so she’d point out all historical stuff to me. It’s so interesting. I love Greek mythology

  • @vucov
    @vucov 3 года назад +72

    Show her the palace of Knossos and the underwater minoan ruins,to see what the woman knows about them!

    • @gentostillgentle6493
      @gentostillgentle6493 3 года назад +3

      Nice pp

    • @JohnDoe-xo2yf
      @JohnDoe-xo2yf 3 года назад +8

      The woman

    • @antonispangalos
      @antonispangalos 3 года назад +1

      Pretty sure, she'd know that no palace would have been visible, due to the polis of Knossos beeing right on top.

    • @Gan596
      @Gan596 3 года назад +10

      I'm sure "the woman" would know more than enough.

    • @steliosp7
      @steliosp7 3 года назад

      They did a very good job in general but not for knossos

  • @bibliomorgan
    @bibliomorgan 3 года назад +11

    One of my favorite game and an archaelogist is commenting?!
    THANK YOU SO MUCH CINCINNATI ART MUSEUM!!

  • @tcxiv3767
    @tcxiv3767 3 года назад +15

    You need to show them Olympia,one of the best cities in the game imo.

  • @camillograziano
    @camillograziano 3 года назад +10

    I want more episodes with her, i really appreciate this kind of video on youtube

  • @bumbro07
    @bumbro07 3 года назад +8

    I'd love to watch her play a discovery tour mode session or something. It'd be really nice to see her just wander around and talk about things that appear.

  • @jwtubification
    @jwtubification 9 месяцев назад +2

    As a historian can I love this 10,000,000,000 times? Even if I don’t agree with everything?

  • @BDizzleMySchnizzle
    @BDizzleMySchnizzle 3 года назад +4

    For people that say video games aren't enriching, this game inspired me to go on a massive Greek history trip on RUclips. I knew next to nothing about Greek history before. That, in turn, inspired me to learn more ancient history, another topic I knew very little about. It's been about a year and I'm still learning tons about the bronze age people's of the world. Thanks AC Odyssey.

  • @TrueSake
    @TrueSake 3 года назад +4

    Her husband just got a pass for playing Odyssey for hours on end.

  • @AshishKumar-hs5ky
    @AshishKumar-hs5ky 3 года назад +5

    For me Assassin's Creed Odyssey is a piece of art. Absolutely gorgeous landscape. The amount of effort the developers do to put in the details, you can never appreciate them enough. I haven't had the chance to play AC Valhalla, I'm sure it must be equally gorgeous if not better. While playing Odyssey I wonder what happened to all these huge statues and buildings and weapons. Why have most of them disappeared without a trace!?

  • @chandracox6814
    @chandracox6814 3 года назад +5

    Assassins Creed is an incredible series. Odyssey really got my into the series, more than any other game. And now I play Valhalla and I'm blown away by it as well. I can't wait for the next!

  • @jamesbarlow8779
    @jamesbarlow8779 3 года назад +6

    This is really cool to have an actually person who has knowledge of what it was actually like in real life. They did a pretty good job by the sounds of it!

  • @TheGameStarter
    @TheGameStarter 3 года назад +7

    Great video! I just found the original two-parter today and was bummed that it cut off like it did, so this is amazing to see in full. Thank you!
    I would be curious to see experts experience the Discovery Mode titles for Origins and Odyssey - both of these were created for the purposes of teaching actual history through gameplay, unlike the main games, which - as you have correctly noticed - get inspired a lot from actual research, but take liberties here and there.

  • @MORC
    @MORC 3 года назад +2

    I am a gamer first and a very low key history enthusiast. Odyssey and Origins blow my mind, I can’t wait to see what comes next. Thanks for doing this video, I enjoyed it. It seems like you two enjoyed making it too.

  • @Lemonidas75
    @Lemonidas75 3 года назад +2

    Being a Athenian myself, I was really interested in this. Amazing job has been done, and research, yes. If someone wanted to nit-pick on certain details - or maybe not-so-small details - you could find a lot of errors in the depiction of ancient Athens in the game. Then again, there's some amazing correct details as well, far more than the erroneous ones. Myself I'd say its way more than what I expected in game depicting a historical site/era - I expected more fantasy than actual reality. Instead we got this. Incredible stuff.

  • @Lumberzach83
    @Lumberzach83 Год назад +2

    he barely looked at half the stuff she was interested in lol..

  • @chickenvilla
    @chickenvilla 3 года назад +5

    It must be such a tender experience to see the subject of your work brought to life in such incredible detail, and to be able to run around through it like a giant sandbox. I wonder if it would make you feel closer to the subject matter to get to experience it that way.

  • @DKarkarov
    @DKarkarov 3 года назад +1

    You know what else is super accurate about this game? Every other word someone says "malaka".

  • @BRIANCOSTELLO土澳
    @BRIANCOSTELLO土澳 2 года назад +2

    why did they make the people Indian brown in this game? As someone with a Greek mother, I can tell you that she is as white as hell. I mean, if ubisoft made a game set in India or Sri Lanka, the people would be indistinguishable from the Greeks portrayed here. The portrayal of Greeks in Origins was much more like actual Greeks. So strange, even in AC Valhalla- the people are too friggen dark!.
    I have to add, I am aware that these people could have been in the sun all day and tanned like crazy, but this is still a bit extreme, comically so. I have been to Greece nearly every year my whole life, from my observations- 80% of Greeks look similar to other south and south east Europeans, 10% look near eastern and another 10% look central to North European, not friggen sub continental skin tones on European looking models, just ridiculous.

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor Год назад +2

    With education being such rubbish in the West I'm grateful to Ubisoft for gifting ancient Greece to the younger generations. The history and heritage of Western Civilization is worthy of such glorification.

    • @dirtyshinobii
      @dirtyshinobii Год назад

      Uh dude? We're still taught this kinda stuff i dunno what you're on about lol

  • @ImYerDadJourdan
    @ImYerDadJourdan 3 года назад +4

    I am obsessed with this. It’s so interesting! I now need a series of archeologists explaining every single assassins creed game to me.

  • @alcateiah
    @alcateiah 2 года назад +1

    You should have used the "tour" function, available in the game. It is much more realistic and takes the player on a guided tour of historic sites.
    Really, ubisoft rocked AC Origins and AC Odyssey. 👍👏👏
    Personally, I prefer Odyssey. I'm a Greek mythology fanatic and therefore my opinion is totally suspect.

  • @handel1111
    @handel1111 2 года назад +2

    say whatever you want to Odyssey but this is a work of art

  • @NickonStark
    @NickonStark 3 года назад +4

    gotta just love her enthusiasm. these videos are rad you guys at the museum should make it into a series.

  • @victorjames7
    @victorjames7 3 года назад +1

    Set around 431-422 BC during the Peloponnesian War. OK soo... @10:30 the "expert" states the painted pots wouldn't have looked like that, acting as if she was living in those exact times, she wasn't, she has studied some surviving artifacts and texts. Many historical texts only highlighted what he or she may have wanted to at the time, it's as if to say that she knows that only a limited amount of designs were used on pots as a fact, it's not, as a designer you just know that there's diversity, be it for pottery or painting a wall. Agreed that I also think that the game designers have done such an amazing job, and have captured the beauty of ancient Greece for this game, which was the main reason I purchased a PS4.

  • @jeandupont8501
    @jeandupont8501 3 года назад +4

    That woman is amazing.

  • @amckeown
    @amckeown 3 года назад +2

    This video is wholesome. Love this. Muchos respect to the Devs and artists of Odyssey. The hidden geniuses

  • @McGriddle69
    @McGriddle69 3 года назад +4

    Please more of this. I love history and I've always been fascinated with experts takes on these historical places in video games.

  • @happyslapsgiving5421
    @happyslapsgiving5421 3 года назад +1

    It would have been great to have her comment on other locations, like Olympia, Mykonos and, of course, *Knossos.*

  • @mbovb006
    @mbovb006 3 года назад +4

    The crazy part is this is just a fraction of the amount of detail and cities. Would love to see more of other locations.

  • @raistormrs
    @raistormrs 3 года назад +1

    most of the mistakes can be blamed on the process, so the confusion she has for objects being the right form but with the wrong color or surface or painting, those are entirely different steps during the development and are done by different people, add your usual communication problems and you get your mistakes.

  • @fredkelly6953
    @fredkelly6953 10 месяцев назад +1

    Ancient Greece - Worshipping, Warring and what was the other one?

  • @ninjadodovideos
    @ninjadodovideos 3 года назад +1

    This is great stuff! People interested in this should also check out the History Respawned channel. They do a similar thing with inviting specialist historians to discuss historical recreations in videogames, including this one, but on a regular basis covering many different games and the times and places they depict.

  • @TheNeonParadox
    @TheNeonParadox 3 года назад +1

    This game is three years old, and I still play it. I don't care that most of the live-service game is just weekly fetch quests post-main story. I just love living in Classical Greece. The ocean is gorgeous, Athens is stunning, Sparta is mind-blowing, and the temple of Artemis takes me beyond tears (Artemis is my girl). I could ramble for hours about everything I love about this game, but I'll stop this comment now. Look on the bright side, you now have another point in the RUclips algorithm. lol

    • @4ur3n
      @4ur3n 3 года назад +1

      you got it :)

  • @dcmastermindfirst9418
    @dcmastermindfirst9418 9 месяцев назад +1

    Odyssey is definitely my favourite AC game.

  • @sordel5866
    @sordel5866 3 года назад +1

    I've got to think that they didn't decorate the urns correctly because by adopting non-figurative decorations they would have rotational symmetry and therefore be a lot more economical on the graphics rendering: a good example of where the developers wanted to be accurate but not at the cost of breaking their own game engine.

  • @akiraqil9902
    @akiraqil9902 3 года назад +3

    hearing her talking about the whole thing feels like actually hearing an ancient greek person that was frozen in time and asked to recall her home. respect for these scholars

  • @haiway85
    @haiway85 3 года назад +1

    now i want to play back Odyssey just to really looks into all those arts & scuptures!

  • @orenjikitty
    @orenjikitty 3 года назад +3

    I want to see her comment on the discovery tour information. It has a lot of historical stuff and Im sure she would get a kick out of it

  • @MedjayofFaiyum
    @MedjayofFaiyum 3 года назад +7

    Fantastic. If you keep doing more Archaeologist reacts to Assassin Creed (do all games because they have amazing historical views) this channel WILL GROW.
    I'd suggest having historians react to video games set in history, like a new series as such.
    Heck, you guys should do an Archaeologist/Historian reacts to Total War and its newest titles - especially historical - like Total War Troy or Thrones of Britannia, Attila or Rome II
    These video games make history popular. Your channel can serve as an intermediary with that by asking these experts in the historical field to react because these video game companies hire these exact experts for consultation on the historical accuracy for their games!

  • @Ironclad6661
    @Ironclad6661 3 года назад +2

    So now kids can pull this video up when Mom says, "Your brain is rotting from all these games," you can say I am learning more history
    of the Ancient Greeks by playing this game than I could from a book.

  • @marshhen
    @marshhen 3 года назад +1

    What a joy to hear such an expert comment on this with such enthusiasm for her subject of expertise and for sharing her knowledge. I would watch a whole series of this. Yes I agree with your comment that it would be preferable to have her comment as you walk through so that you can pause on what she is discussing. It would be easier to learn from and allow her or other experts to really expand on the topics. Wonderful tool for teaching my students. Please consider doing more. Many thanks.

  • @RagnarBlox
    @RagnarBlox 2 года назад +1

    I just finished Odyssey and can attest to everything they are talking about. But before playing Odyssey I played AC-Valhalla. I have a Masters in Computer Science (so I get the video game part), but I have a minor in history so playing games like this is my fun wheel house. Plus I also visited Athens, Rhodes, Crete and Santorini (Thera) back in 2005 so it was amazing to see places I've actually walked before.
    Also my wife and I had just finished watching all the seasons of The Last Kingdom and Valhalla did an amazing job tying history into that game and the 9th century early England. These games are truly amazing and a great way to experience history.

    • @littlemouse7066
      @littlemouse7066 Год назад

      Agree and I don't understand the criticism towards Valhalla the only thing I found lacking in that game was the protagonist didn't have a proper viking armor.

  • @TheBri87
    @TheBri87 3 года назад +1

    I beat the whole game (incluiding the DLC's) twice; first with Alexios then Kassandra. Watching this video only makes me wanna start a 3rd time lol. I don't recall ever enjoying a game as much as I have with AC Odyssey. I'd love if they could come up with more DLC's or even an Odyssey 2 (?).

  • @AlexAtGuilford
    @AlexAtGuilford 3 года назад +1

    It's a game, not a documentary. 😉

  • @nessaelessar
    @nessaelessar 3 года назад

    'Oh my gosh they're speaking Greek in the background!'
    Me, a former student of Latin and Ancient Greek: yep, that was my reaction too.

  • @teunsegersofficial
    @teunsegersofficial 3 года назад +2

    So many accurate details that most players just run past as quickly as possible, chasing our quest markers. This video made me re-appreciate all the artwork.

  • @tiffaraffi7749
    @tiffaraffi7749 3 года назад +1

    i bet she's playing this game now haha

  • @Jamess5555
    @Jamess5555 3 года назад +2

    You should have shown her the "Long" Walls between Athens and Piraeus, I legit died laughing when I saw them in the game

  • @crhu319
    @crhu319 3 года назад +1

    If Athens rebuilt this just as is, they'd be the worlds greatest tourist attraction. Esp if you had to cosplay it or pay $$$

    • @perseusarkouda
      @perseusarkouda 3 года назад

      They did already a lot of work on archaelogical sites, such as on Parthenon for example. Compare it with ~20 years earlier and you'll realize it.

  • @Aykutti
    @Aykutti 3 года назад +1

    Please continue

  • @thibaultd7979
    @thibaultd7979 3 года назад +2

    Would love to see her do some sort of playthrough of the tour mode or react to it, it's without combat so she can just walk around and look at historical sites or even do guided tours.

  • @andyvale2467
    @andyvale2467 3 года назад +2

    This was really enjoyable, I adore the details in these games and it's great to learn about the work that went into them.

  • @mayaamis
    @mayaamis 3 года назад +1

    I always loved archeology and history, and games that showcase and explore places, architecture, art and culture of the past! it's why I fell in love with Assassin's Creed games, in addition to great stealthy rouge gameplay. Even if it not all 100% authentic always. So I enjoyed this video so much!! thank you Kathleen! ❤️ I hope you get back to your excavations soon! :)
    P.S. it would be better tho if she walked around the game herself and go and stopped where she wanted, you should stop and face something when she talks about it and wait a little.

  • @Gigi-fv9ky
    @Gigi-fv9ky 3 года назад +1

    I was a classics major and Odyssey blew me away from that perspective. Also, the water is gorgeous as is the other scenery. I loved that they have a discovery feature outside the game. I appreciate this video because after playing the game for 180 hours , I had gotten so bored with the repetitive tasks, every tomb/fort being similar, that I forgot just how amazing everything else was. Hopefully she got to see more of it, maybe on her own, as ther is so much to see, including Knossos, etc.

  • @jcbuttons
    @jcbuttons 3 года назад +1

    I absolutely LOVED this!! How cool! It’s my favourite game for a billion reasons and it’s great to hear an educated and excited mind speak about these things. I would LOVE to see a longer version. Perhaps a live stream? Thank you for doing this!!

  • @greeklow71
    @greeklow71 2 года назад +1

    Fan fact is that in games you will have a better and more accurate view of greek history than the one in hollywood movies

    • @littlemouse7066
      @littlemouse7066 Год назад +1

      true. and they did similarly in Valhalla the norse mitology is quite accurate and some people say it's not and God of war is better when in that game things are not accurate at all.

  • @jriverawy2287
    @jriverawy2287 3 года назад +1

    Love her excitement when she sees things being historically accurate 🤓❤️ odyssey is far better then Valhalla smh about to play again

  • @Tigs2
    @Tigs2 4 дня назад

    There may well be some artistic license and some inaccuracies but let's face it, this is as close to a time machine to Ancient Greece WE will ever get. When I was a kid I had to go to a library and read books illustrated by people with little clue as to how it really looked. Now look what the kids have! They can walk amongst the wonders of Ancient Greece, they can see it, hear it. Origins is just the same. I love this game that even in around 450 BC the civilization was so old many great buildings are in ruins, the same in Origins and Ancient Egypt. The research and attention to detail into all of this is more deserving of an Oscar than any Hollywood set artist.

  • @vthings001
    @vthings001 3 года назад +1

    This was the first of the series I played and I got it because I've studied so much about ancient Greece. It really helped visualize what that world could have looked like. It also sort of hit home how Classical Greece was built on the ruins of another mega-building civilization, the Mycenaeans, as you could see ruins everywhere you went in the game.

  • @jmarco335
    @jmarco335 3 года назад +1

    Show her what she asks for . She talks about something very passionately and you just ignore it and move on to something else . Like some statues or the language

  • @thuggie1
    @thuggie1 3 года назад +1

    i find it annoying with the repeating of decorative assets you can always tell time constraints set by investors when it comes to things like that which is a shame

    • @littlemouse7066
      @littlemouse7066 Год назад

      It's impossible to make everything different and in ancient times there were things repeated. someone lamented the houses were all similar but the houses in the villages were actually all the same because that was the way the houses of poor people were built. For instance in ancient Rome centuries after the date of the story in this game there were buildings called insulae where poor people lived that were similar to our condos and they were basically all the same.

  • @Bllll957
    @Bllll957 3 года назад +1

    The devs actually explained the changes for example for the trails going to the Acropolis. It's a way to give more ways of exploiting parkour for the players and keep that aspect of the Assassin's Creed "universe". That's also why they kinda added a lot of mountains here and there depending on the geography. It's a way of keeping some aspects of the gameplay dynamic. These are not "mistakes", these are delibarate choices from the devs.

  • @trueseattleite6958
    @trueseattleite6958 3 года назад +1

    I want more of this! I love hearing about the historical accuracies and inaccuracies of games. It's cool to think we can explore a place as it existed thousands of years ago.